The following is a presentation of Playfly Sports Properties in Michigan State Sports Properties. Ryan Uh, this is as heavy as it gets. This is a night we look forward to you and now here we sit, and I just ask, as a member of this brotherhood, as a guy who dealt with his own health issues and scares, what words can we even put to this?
What would you share? I think the first thing, this is about Damar Hamlin, and it's about a young man at twenty four years old that was living his dream that a few hours ago was getting ready to play the biggest game of his NFL career and there was probably nowhere else in the world he wanted to be and now he fights for his life. And when Damar Hamlin falls to the turf, and when you see the medical staff rush to the field and both teams are on the field, you realize this isn't normal.
You realize this isn't just football. And so many times in this game, in our job as well, we use the cliches. You know, I'm ready to die for this, I'm willing to give my life for this. It's time to go to war. And I think sometimes we use those things so much. We forget that part of living this dream is putting your life at risk. And tonight we got to see a side of football that is extremely ugly, a side of football that no one ever outside of football,
that no one ever wants to see or never wants to admit exists. When you see both teams on the field crying in that way, your first thought is do more hamline. The second thought is his family. And this isn't about a football player, right, This is about a human. This is about a brother, This is about a son, This is about a friend. This is about someone who is loved by so many that you have to watch go through this. I dealt with this before, and I watched my
teammates for days come to my hospital bed and just cry. I had them call me and tell me that they didn't think I was going to make it. And now this team has to deal with that and they have no answers.
And so the next time I think that we get upset at our favorite fantasy player, or we're upset that the guy on our team doesn't make the play and we're saying he's worthless, and we're saying you get to make all this money, we should remember that these men are putting their lives on the line to live their dream, and tonight Dumar Hamlin's dream became a nightmare for not only himself, but his family and his entire team. Touching words from
one Ryan Clark. You know, thanks to ESPN for that. You know. It's January third, Happy New year everyone. I'm your host Jason story Hund along with my co hosts Otis Wiley and my co host Jayu Culcrick.
Shoot you this is smart and we weremiss if we did not talk about the events that occurred last night and into today with Damar ham In, the safety from the Buffalo Bills in the NFL last night, went into cardiac arrest during the football game from a hit a seemingless you know, seeming it looked like a very casual play, but it turned out to be something very life threatening for him and he remains in critical condition in the hospital. And guys,
I wanted to talk to you guys about this. I think it's something that's important that we cover as former football players, and we covered this sport that we both all three of us loved this game. You know, you always talk about, hey, you know, ready to die for this as he'd said, but when it really happens, it does shock you. It shocks the entire nation. And it's something that he's going to continue to be in our thoughts and prayers, but something that we have to take very seriously.
And hats off to the NFL for canceling the game or postponing it so far. Yeah, very very very scary situation that happened yesterday. We all, you know, the three of us played this game. We sacrifice our body. We've played through injuries, we've played through you know, pain, We've you know, we've put it on the line for each other. And you know those cliches that Ryan Clark mentioned, you know, like I'm you know, going to war for this. You know, I've been through a war
personally from coming from Africa, and here I get it. It's a cliche. And I know football is not, you know, an actual war, but those are things that you say. And have an opportunity to be a guy, be a kid from Buffalo, New York, have an opportunity to play, you know, to put that bills, red white and blue jersey
on. It's an absolute honor, you know, if you have the opportunity to even play this game, you know at the collegiate level, but even at the next level, and you know the bond you form with your team. And that's that's what I always to tell people, is you know, no matter what sport you play, no matter what you do in life, if you haven't played a game like football, football is to ultimate team sports. Football is ultimate sport that brings people from all walks of life together.
And last night clearly showed that. And you know, we've all been in situations where the injuries happened. You know, in twenty ten, when ilse with the Buffalo Bills, we played a game in Denver against the Denver Broncos and we had a team. I had a teammate, Johnny White, he was a fellow running back. He had a head hit. He was down on the field. They had to come in, take his face mask off, put him on the board, you know, took him off. But
as he left, he gave the thumbs up. So therefore we knew that he was he had movement, he was okay. The trainers and coaches made sure, you know, after he took him to the hospital, to come along the sideline and tell everybody, hey, Johnny's gonna be okay, he has movement in all extremities and everything like that. Even that, going back
on the field, you still felt tentative to play the game. You still you know, there was a moment you know, you you like, man, you know, do I go as hard as I usually go because you've just seen this, you know, and you did get that, you know, quick five minute break there, and you know, kudos to the NFL for you know, stopping this game because it's a lot bigger than you know,
ratings. It's a lot bigger than people's fantasy football stats, is a lot bigger than you know, Better's bet that they have in there, and it's a lot bigger than playoffs standing. This is somebody's life, somebody's child, and these guys teammates, you know, they wouldn't have been in there with their full heads and and it's been an absolute trash game anyways, So kudos to the NFL for that. And you know, everybody that plays a
sport, you know, we know the risks that we take. But you know, there are times where you don't really think you think you can go out there and get hurt. You never think about death really when you strap on the helmet and the shoulder pads to go out there. So you know, this is just something that's you know, hasn't been you know, in the game for year decades now. I think that you know, and Buffalo had something similar with Kevin Everett when he was there and he got injured and
paralyzed and made her miraculous recovery. And also too, I want to give a shout out to you know, the Buffalo bill the Buffalo community. You know, they've come and put the arms around this this guy, his family, the team and showing that passion, they're donating to his charity. His charity went from a goal of twenty five hundred dollars for toys for Todds now
over four million dollars. That's what it's all about. And you know, like I said, we all play this game, we all know the risks that comes with it, but at some point in time you have to take a step back and realize this is bigger than exis and O's is bigger than a game. This is something that you know you can't you know, at times you might not make it home. So it's just a really sad situation.
And uh, you know, hopefully you know, thoughts and prayers continuously to go out to Hamlin to the Bills organization and his family and his mother well, well, well said Jau. You know I had the it's not even a pleasure. I had the experience of going through the concussion. I don't remember, obviously, uh the events that happened afterwards. But this was when I was in high school. Freshman year was my worst one, and I had I had one in college, but the freshman year one was was
almost a devastating one for for me. Knowing that I was telling Stray about this, is that you know, at that point, I was playing running back Jayu, you know, and you know in high school you're playing every every position that you can managed to help. And I had just moved from Austin, Texas, and my parents were still down in Texas. I'm staying with my grandparents in Flint, Carmen d Ainsworth, and you know, we're
playing Flushing High School, which was kind of a rivalry for us. And you know, I thought I was about to break free for a touchdown, but you know, got stumbled upon a defender. But then the other defenders behind me were right there to shove my head in the ground and after that was a complete blackout and I woke up in the ambulance and in the in the the hospital. But you know, not to have a support family there in the stands was even more kind of troubling because no one knew who this
Texas kid was on the team. Where does he live. Luckily, I had a cousin playing on the JV level that you know, came came to the rescue, and so it's just it's a it's unfortunate to go through the through that. But also, like you said, I did know what I was signing myself up for. This is a violent game and in order to like I survive, be the survival of the fittest that this game is.
It's like you train your mind and your body to be a gladiator. And you know, if you're out there playing Timid, you know, growing up, I think that's where our coach was gonna say, if you're playing timt you're gonna get hurt, Like you can't play you know, Timid, and like you are trained that way to go out there and just be a gladiator and put the team on your back and make hardcore plays in the back end and as you remember you know, we we had the experience with me and
my work and knock it out with Wisconsin receiver and you know we thrived off of those no hit like those knockout hits in the back end secondary like that's what we grew up knowing and you felt like you got so much respect of
doing that. But when it happens, uh, and you are the experience of that, like are you the culprit and it happens to someone that you are very close with or even on your team, it's nothing that goes through your through your mind is differently that, you know, like you said, it's bigger than this and him, you know, he's still young man, and I think that's the piece of it that, uh, he's young and he was playing one of the biggest games of you know, his second you
know, second year in the league career. And it's just it's tough to to to think about it that, you know, it's tough if you say the wrong things, you say the right things. You just got to be able to say like the human element of it, like Ryan Clark said, it brings me back to the reality of we are still human beings playing on
the grid iron. Guys are right, and and where human beings were all connected in that way, everybody on this planet can relate to dump DeMar Hammler because everybody's human and everybody understands, you know what it's like if you if you could project what it would be like to be in his position or to be someone that's a loved one of him of his in in this particular position, and it's tough. You know that we're connected. You talk about our
three of us. You know we talk about Spartan football. We're Michigan State guys. When you think about Michigan State, you think about Pat Nardoozy. This young man played for Pitt. This young man played for the same coach that you guys played for when he when you guys were at Michigan State. His defensive back coach was a teammate of mine at Pitt, Archie Collins. You know, I had a conversation with Archie earlier and he was not in
a good place because this man has done everything right. He said. This is what he said straight. This is a good kid. This is not you know, like I got a lot of knuckleheads made to the NFL. This is not a knucklehead. You know, you guys understand what that means. This is a he said, this is a guy that does everything right and it couldn't have happened to a better person. The worst thing couldn't have
happened to a better person. So you know, you gotta remember that this game does bring us all together, and I think that you know, and it will teach us something and we get to continue to pour out support for his family and his loved ones. As Jayu said, he's connected with the Buffalo Bills alumni because that's what he is. So if there's anything you can do to help that family and that organization, please do that. I'm sure
that we'll have some information for you guys to continue to do that. But definitely our hearts and our prayers go out to the Hamlin family as they go through this difficult time right now, and we re wish him a speedy recovery back to health. That's all that we care about, and so for the rest of us here, as we continue to move on, we'd like to
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crave pancakes over here because we love our house. Guys, Michigan, we got to talk about them, that school down the road. They lose the TCU and the college football playoffs fifty one of forty five. What's your thought, gentlemen. I just want to say that I was correct thick them. Hey you the boy. I told you, man, listen, I said they would either put up money, put up points like crazy and the defense
can't make stock what you saw. It was kind of back and forth, but then they made They made two main picks interceptions on on our boy McCarthy, and I just felt like, and I'm not this is not the hater a coming out of me, but you're probably sure it is. It's deeply rooted, coming out a little bit seeping through. I was like, I came here in coach d probably coming for the fall. Like I felt like
they legitimately have erased their entire decade of losing. Uh and then they finally get back to back Big Ten championship, knowing that this is their first time cracking in the CFP. But you look at the record of Harball in these bowl games and they're defeated. They have not won one, like and it's and it's to that point where you're like, all right, they had everything
on their way, but it's the mistakes. It's l l L L L L like and like you gotta you gotta think about, like what what's happening? You know what I mean? When when it when it really counts where I honestly thought, and Jay, you made a good point last last podcast, last episode, like this could have been a rematch between the Big Ten
rivals of Oha State buck Guys and Michig Michigan Wolverings. But it's in those times where just the mistakes of J. J. McCarthy, like it's you know, he played a good season, but they finally put it on his back and trying to make him win the game with his arm in and you see what happened, and so you know, l L L L L baby and so TCU horn Fogs. I mean, it was a great game, man, but like I just saw bigger plays being made by the horn Frogs,
and the momentum was always their way. M Yeah, otis you called it, you picked it, you got it. I was saying that it's the Texas boy, and you went. I put my analyst hat on and went with Michigan instead of my spartan dog hat and my hater hat. That's a note to yourself everyone out there. Never go against your gut. So it wasn't. It wasn't. My gut told me that the horn Frogs were gonna win. But I said, hey, let me break this down, let me get on the big board, let me this and that where it
went wrong. Everything that Michigan did up until the game was perfect. Everything JJ McCarthy did and said up until the game was really good, really professional, really hungry. He had that humble and hungry mindset until the week before
the game. Yeah, that's so true about it. When he got there the press conference, the big lights, national media, you start feeling yourself a little bit, you start drinking that kool aid a little bit, and he's red, so you know, but like he you know, he's he said, you know, oh, if they come and play that three, you know, three four or five or whatever defense that they play, we're gonna smash him. We're gonna have a field day. We're gonna show him
big ten football in the big twelve. And you know, the same thing that my Grandpapy would say, the same thing that make you laugh will make you cry. And that's what happened. Michigan went into the game. They right off the bat, I thought, oh boy, you know, Donovan Edwards fifty three yards. You know, as a running back, that's the best feeling in the world. First play of the game, you busted big. The crowd's going crazy, your team's going crazy. And they get to
the three yard line and they want to be cute. They want to do Trickham Dickham offense and want to do Philly special. And what did that do instead of if they ran the ball and got stopped. Now TCU has the ball on the three yard line, it has to go ninety seven yards. They do all that, lose yards and you know tackle at the ten. They give TCU breathing room and they go down and play and you know, capitalize off that and then next thing is a pit six. All right.
So now at the end of the day, I chalk this all up to the fact that TCU played the game angry because they heard what McCarthy said. You know, they played the game angry. They could score at will whenever their backs were against the wall, but we need a big playoffensive. We're gonna go get it. Michigan could not do that in the second half.
They mustard some good drives, they put together good drives and everything like that, but the defense could not hang with that big twelve track meet that happened that TCU put up there. And also too, Jim Harbaugh has to get a lot of the blame on this. All right, the last time in the postseason that Michigan's won a bull game, it's twenty fifteen, all right,
what's the last bull time Michigan won a bull game? They're one in six, all right, one and six, And thankfully for them, COVID hit that year that in twenty twenty that there was no Bowl games because there'll be one and seven. Jim Harball did not prepare his team for that game. Jim Harball is a bad game prep manager. When they have a long period of time, the shorter the period of time, the better. We you see this. If there's a bye week in between, you know,
it's they're not as crisp and out as sharp, all right. So that's what happened. And Michigan, you know, they are eating their words right now. And I love it. I absolutely love it. I love you know all day, you know, New Year's Eve. I'm walking around the store, gonna go get my king krab legs and my fallets, you know, for a nice dinner. You know, people their maize and blue he he ha hide and I'm just there like yeah, you wait, wait he behinde, you know, extra bouncing their steps too, you know, so
big big shout out to TCU forgetting it done. I love what you say. He he had he he ha ha. I mean, guys, I mean they got inside the five yard line two times, came up with zero. Yeah, two sixes thrown by your boy JJ McCarthy. And then you know he has the nerve to talk about he didn't know what conference. I mean it was see a digital era, you know, people, this gives you some insight what goes on when coaches are preparing their team to get on
the bus to go to the stadium. So this isn't like it used to be where they used to give a bulletin board material. So con hits like read the newspaper clippings on the wall, like back in my time and all that. Now they put together like straight up videos, highlight reels of sound bites. So they put the entire team in the meeting room right people,
they're all taped up. The busses are rolling the gatorades outside for where their trip from this meeting room to the bus meeting room gatorade bags, bus go to the stadium, and in that meeting room they play. They inundate that team with about four minutes of negative speak that comes out of your mouth, Michigan. So when you talk to them and you say these things to the national media, they capture all of it. They may not react right away,
but they're capturing it all. And they played that for all those teammates, those the TCU team and the coaches. They didn't even know what conference TCU played in. They didn't know what that's a that's an ultimate smack in the face for them. So the coaches were pissed. Players are pissed,
and you could tell the way they played that game. They weren't scared, they weren't flinching, and they couldn't wait to get back out there and put more inflict more pain on Michigan for the way that they kind of flippidly thought that they were going to get past them and go on to the next game with the championship game. Thus, Sunny Dyke's is now in the championship game with the horn Frogs. It was an amazing performance in my opinion for them.
You know, the three three five defenses, the defense that they run, it's very difficult to run on. It's harder than people think it is to run on that defense. And I don't understand JJ McCarthy. His strength has been his legs and he was afraid to use them when it all came down to it in a game that mattered the most. It's like him and c J Strattle, what you're gonna talk about him in a minute, changed places a little bit a little bit, and he tried to think that he
could beat him with his arm, and he could not do it. JJ McCarthy is the only college football playoff quarterback not invited to New York guys. And there's a reason why because he isn't that guy averaging thirteen points giving up I think it was like thirteen point six points this year in defense fifty one points they gave up. Look, there ain't nobody that can win a game
giving up fifty one points, guys. Right, And for all those Michigan fans that are out there that you know, want to come and say, well, at least we made it to the to the college playoffs. At least we made it to a bowl game. I say, yeah, at least we don't lose a bowl game. Listen, there was one play where they had the entire Michigan offers alignment out here looking like they coming from everywhere like they I remember seeing is from me TeV is It'm a team? Damn
he was looking. He was like, I mean, dude, he could. It was like early everything. Listen. Yeah, they say falls star on everybody but the center like suck. I guarantee you. JJ was seeing them smacking Donovan when he's hitting that line because they started to put it on that heat and the defensive shout out to the defense coordinator at TCU man because at first, after that big run with Donathan Edwards broke, they did some
adjustments that was consistently changing every time Michigan tried to do something different. Mi GI Michigan's tied one of their tight ends, you know, goes out hurt. But you know, I felt like there was times where Michigan could have took the momentum, but that like you said, fuel to the fire. You can say whatever you said, man, but everybody has a plan. So they get hit in the mouth. Man, And so that's what happened.
And off season, go home. You can join us now and we'll get ready for when you guys come to beast Lansing because it's about to be on the popping right as it is. Joe Gillespie. Gillespie, that's that's the defense coordinator. And you know who that offensive coordinator was TCU Garrett Riley, Lincoln's brother. He's going to be a candidate for a lot of jobs, guys. Just so just just put a little pendnote on that one right there. When we talk about like one thing, I have to address.
What were the camera so focused on JJ McCarthy's parents for him, man, man and if daddy and his girlfriend? What what was all that about? Like like why we always have to hear I didn't see anything going on with the TCU. I didn't see TCU. What's the name Dougan? I didn't see his mama and daddy. You know, it's weird because like the cameras were like zooming in or like fans like it was Journey like girls. It was weird, man, it was just weird where and then what you Once
you sent that video? I was kind of like I was conflicted because I'm trying to figure out, like, man, what any right man's mind can think that that is not God forbid? Musburger makes a comment after they put the videos. Yeah, it's like Brent Musburger was producing this game definitely not trying to get canceled. So you gotta watch what you say anyway, right, I mean, come on, man, but the cameras are doing it.
Did you see the edit though of you know, the picture of j J looking at the celebration and they put the video They photo shopped the video on the Jobo trick like it was really, Oh my god, No they didn't. Man, It's like the Internet's undefeated. We know that, man, that's where we live. Wow about that? Can can we talk about how freaking I told you guys? I thought I gave everyone a clean slate going into twenty twenty three. All right, is this your transition. Is
this my transition transition? Man, I know you're gonna talk about them boys. They hurt you, They hurt his new year playing already they started getting ready, Steve Smith, I was getting ready to talk so much smack to everybody on this show that was saying that because I picked Ohio State to beat Georgia. Smitty was like, oh poot you crazy? You drinking that? Yeah, right now you are. All y'all were coming at me, giving me the silly face though, you know, all that stuff Lidas to say.
You know, I did not get that because once again the football gods are against me and they had to. You know, I thought I put I put bad so point take take take accountability that it's you, the football lords man like damn kickers, the kickers man, damn kickers. I thought I put it behind me in twenty to twenty two. But just as the ball drops, times perfectly sent perfectly with this. Look at this showing the countdown right here, all five seconds left. You know, okay, you
know they're getting ready. I'm like, I'm in my ahead, I'm looking at the clock. I was like, please get this off before the ball because for some reason knew this kicker. I wouldn't trust this kicker. And or did you see it during the timeout, Chocho? Did you see him during the timeout? He he looked like he wasn't breathing. Man, Man, look at this he did. He didn't even follow through, Bro,
he didn't even follow through. Look at that right at twenty twenty three strikes, Confetti's going this kickers missing it, bringing mine to the new year with this. So here's look at all to get back. Coaches, get back, coaches for for Georgia going crazy, get back, get back. All right, let's let's let's break down this game management on that drive because our boy Strow, Like that's the CJ. Strow that we see that plays against us, you know what I mean? Like, I'm like, dude,
this dude is slinging it gun slinging it. He is. He is making no mistakes, he's decision making his precise shout out to the old coordinator right then, otis he used his legs he did. That's what I'm saying, Like this dude, this dude was taking off And to my listen, if I if I'm CJ Strong, clearly I'm not. But if I was him, I'm putting. I'm putting that win in that team on my back, and I'm not putting out for no kicker like or I'm doing my best to
get it closer. Because I felt like, you gotta know your kickers weaknesses, and he he wasn't good from past fifty like he was like one and two or don't know what it was, but I felt like they didn't do a great job of managing that that drive once they got to the field goal range, they didn't do a great job like it. Legit was like, Okay, I'm gonna get there, all right, let's put it on the kicker. No, man, let's try one more shot and then get it
down there. I mean, it's something because I just said the kicker money though. But look look, look like he ain't never had a kick like that. No, not even wear clothes. He's been kicking when they up by thirty. Man, that's what you've been saying. That's a no pressure kick that he kiss. Right. If y'all, if y'all believe me and
go put putt right. It's one thing to go pup putt. It's another thing when you take five hundred Johnny, Johnny looks Johnny just said, you got to give him an extra ten yards, bro, like do something to get him a better probability, probability to get the kick in the uprights. Like that's right. I just it sucked, did you. I wish CJ.
Straw when they re zoomed in on him like he was like what the you know like he was he was shocked, Like, bro, I just did all that, man, like he laid he laid it out all on the field. Kudos said, because he was on another level, like when you want to put something on tape for the next level. He just did that, like he secured himself to be in the first round and just works ten top ten like that was legit. That was a good one. That
was a good one. Man. It sucks alliens. Detroit Lions. Hmm, hey, man, golf out here, bond bro Lions right now. Boy, he can golf for a year. I was just talking about them Lions. Man. I don't know how we let Carolina Panthers do what's like that and we could have controlled the destiny AnyWho. That's that's part of the deal. But so c J. Stroud had a great game. I mean they fought Ryan day. We talked about this last week. I don't think
we talked about him in the show though. Ryan Day, in my opinion, was coaching for his life in a way, because look, he's forty five and six now. He was forty five and five going into this ball game and those folks over in Columbus, man, I mean, I've talked to Dantonio about it. Mel has mentioned things about that. Ohio say, it's a different place. You know, you can go eleven and one and they want your head if that one is against you know, them boys in
Blue. And for him to lose two games to them back to back and losing the one the way that they lost the home game this year, I'm telling you there was a dark cloud. You know, e R the character I think he's like a Snoopy character or something like that is rain cloud. Man. I'm telling you that game he had that cloud over his head. But did you see the way his body language was during that game? In
the playoff game, I mean, Ryan Day was going crazy. He was I mean, I mean, he was coaching his ass off because he knew, like if I don't, I mean, this is the probably the best losing performance you could have. It's gonna ease. I think a lot of the people of the fan bases minds and Columbus because you look, he was right there. He could have won this game. Uh. I know there's no moral victories, but in this case there is. But he knew that.
He knew that, and that's why you said he was showing that emotion. You know, he wanted to tell his people of Columbs, Hey, I'm in it. I'm here, I'm trying to get these guys fired up. I'm doing everything I can because he knew there that that seat wasn't quite hot. But you know it's that warm seat. You know when you first get in your car and put that seat, he that heater seats on, you know, and it starts, you know, getting a little you know,
toasty there. That's what it was a little bit for him in Columbus there. But you know, you know I would say he coached his ass off. Yeah, absolutely well. One shout out to the Winnie the Pooh reference that stra did, uh winning winning winning, he or listen, what what what head coach and seat is not high? I mean it's always lukewar anywhere Like it no't matter what you do, you'll just go back to su if it gets high, bro, Like what you're talking about, Sonny Dikes,
They got to pay that somebody. TC's got what fourteen thousand people in on campus. Yeah, the budgets. Like, man, but I'm that guy right there. All your money, they got it. They'll get it right. They're gonna give them that. They're gonna give him ten to twelve. They're gonna get it right, especially if he especially take Georgia down and win. He's gonna get it right. Oh my goodness. So TC becomes a powerhouse overnight. Well no, I mean they was already they were dominating
that that down there in that conference. TC was dominating five and seven last year. That's last year. We're talking decade. We're talking a decade. Like they haven't been good in that conference though. Yeah they've they've been. They've won. Like trust me, when I was an they were falling, bro, they haven't been good. Test Daniel Thomason and Andy Dalton calm down, you relax been, you gotta say right now, relaxed, Texas.
He's been. He's been there with the you know, Boston College and up there with in New York and stuff like Saint John's ain't got a football team. Bro. Oh, let's look at the talent. Let's look at the roster talent, though, guys, listen to the roster talent for this. Look at this the college football playoff roster talent. Look at where TCU is one five star. I don't know who that is. Who the hell's the five star at tc and then it's sixty three stars. Bro, That's what
I'm saying. You win with grit. You win with grit, and you went with people that ain't ain't was it what they were all cloud coming in. That's what I'm saying. He Sunny Dice is put of a program together. Look at look at look at coach D'Antonio when we hit the college. But that was that was the yesteryear. Come on now about now years and listen, I guarantee this some five stars, four flats on the on their cars right now. Bro. Right, it's all clout now until you get
here. Until you get here, you got to prove that you're yourself. There's some but to develop them too. And I feel like that's what I'm gonna tell you something. Just just today I was down here at the All under Armor All American I've seen a lot. You know, I've seen our boys from Michigan State. I've seen Jordan Hall and Stanton Rammell. You know they was doing they think Stanton, hey, man, hey, he's all right now that tackle he was holding his own. And I seen Jordan.
Jordan is a very intelligent player. But when you see guy like they are getting better at this rating system, I'm gonna tell you that Hicks Rember, that David Hicks kid, d J David trying. Oh my goodness. Uh, we got to get the video. But go to go to Instagram, go to u A next whatever it is on Instagram, and look at what he was doing in his drills one on one. I understand why he's considered the number one guy. That's not a guy that I'm concerned whether or not
he's got. He's over hyped, Okay, not at all. And when you look at these talent rosters we just had up there, if you can pull that up again, Pete, you can see, you know, look at Georgia and how Ohio State and Georgia are built very similar, both of them. You know what, they're like one five star apart, one four star apart, and one three star part. They're very similar talent wise,
it's Michigan is kind of an anomaly. I think Michigan State the way that we're recruiting now, Mel Tucker, I mean, it's gonna be where Michigan's talent is in short order in my opinion. But as you said, there's still the TCU, the Sunny Dykes that are able to get that that grit a lot of transfers over there from other schools that he's giving them a chance,
and he knows how to coach the boys up. I think it really matters what kind of coach you have in your style and how you're gonna get the start of those players, because it's different coaching a team of five stars than it is coaching the team of three stars. Don't you guys agree? I agree. I mean it's one of those is grateful, like being grateful that chiev are on that campus, we're in that program, or like as
a three star. I was a three star, but like you know, you didn't have the Instagram hype videos and all that growing you know, coming up, so you gotta have to go today. You would be a four all day long, easy, easy for I don't want it, bro, I want I know you wanted the hard way. I understand how you are, I know how your makeup is. You want it the hard way. But I'm telling you you would have got one of them little video edit guys,
this and that and next thing. You know, you might've been on the verge of a five because your side, your frame, where you played. It's all about getting out there. This is marketing. That's all these guys do. And I mean, did you not play? Oh yeah, but developing, like, looks of that talent got developed. Everybody got developed. Man, If you don't develop, you know you ain't doing it right. So but no kudos to Georgia sticking it out man. But they definitely
shouldn't have won the game. Clearly shouldn't have won the game. But that is the mark of a champion being able to find a way to win. When look, Ohio State deserved that game. We know that they were at fourteen that that whatever that bull drive like first down it was a turnover on downs. And then it wasn't a turnover on downs because my man got their first down out of bounds. That tight end that right there, that was that was that was a little iffy right there, man. That Marcel Brooks
the five star over at TCU. The lone five star was a LSU guy that didn't transfer. That's what are That's what the football guys. Thanks Pete, but it is for that. But look too too, like you were gonna we're just gonna talk about big right now. For some reason, I was backstage. People put me in time out and stuff. I was, I was, you got time out, man. Sometimes it's the gods in
the laptop. Big ten, five and four man. I mean we was on a roll there for a while except those two games in the playoffs and then lost to yesterday. So big Big Thing goes five and four in bowl games. Mm hmmm mmmmmmm. Got be real nice for the cover. Do you think Kevin Warren? Do you think Kevin Warren is going to now take that job with the Bears? With the Bears? I know this is off, but what are they putting in a Dumbo and uh at two lane?
They putting a little physical, a little kick ass in there. It ain't that hard man, U s C. Yeah. I had that discussion with a couple, got some of them USC commits. He's got signees. I asked their dad, like, what's the problem, and they all. They they're all. It's the defensive coordinator from that that Lincoln Riley. He's brought over from Oklahoma. So he feels like, you know, he about to
be gone. Yeah oh yeah, yeah the Big twelve. You know he's gonna do that the Pac twelve and but they're going to the Big ten. He has one hundred and eighty pound linebackers and stuff like that. He feels like, the faster you are, the better you are, no matter how much we weigh and how tall you are. Yeah, till you got that brown Bama you tall until you get that guard that is what it is,
heavier grilled cheeses. Then you get that guard pulling on power for that one hundred eighty pounds linebacker si hundred eighties pounds in the linebacker licking his chops like right there, right there, you have you have uh uh wide receivers cracking back on linebackers there be cleeting them right which is the point of inferensis now lot of guys like so before we go though, Tate, Tate Hallick, this is a guy, this is a legacy kid is now entered the portal
from Michigan State. Yeah, you got his sister balling off for US freshman guard on the women's basketball team. You know, I did I read that interesting article saying like, you know, the guys that are hitting that trade support or are the guys that are a little bit further down in the depth chart. So you know, one, you gotta do what's best for you. He did graduate, so you know, you have an opportunity to go out and try to see if you can make a make a difference in another
program with your last year eligibility. So you know, one, kudos to I always say kudos to you, young man, but you know, more so like you got to do his best for you, and that's what he's doing. So luckily it has been main like key game changing performers for us that have hit it. You know, we have those two D tackles that we're kind of like, you know, maybe saying coach d Antonio's guys. But with the class that we got coming in, like I mean the writings
on the wall, man, like got some studs coming in. So if you weren't getting it, then this season it ain't gonna happen right now. So so yeah, how about uh the WHO team whopping up on those coin huskis right now, seventy to fifty one. Who with a little two and a half left in the second, you know we're scared. I was scared about this one man. Yeah, Rascal, Rascal can held the other team
to under fifty. Man, the Braska got some dolls on defense, but clearly man like, we're rolling strong right now, clicking on all cylinders. Malae call is a different his maker, like, yeah, my man's after Kentucky. And then you got to sit out like we we missed him dearly.
But when he comes in and just he just gets buckets like and it's the not garbage points, but it's the stuff that you hustle, right, and then you got Tyson like ty Walker was going off man like when he's hitting, he's when he's hitting everybody's hit because that's when he's just confident, Like I don't need no picking rolls from Madi. I just want to take you one on one. Chop it up, break an ankle, lay up, or shoot the jumper like he's he's got a great game. I love
Tywalker. Yeahs got word you going off now. Nebraska got a player out there looking like Bryce Bearinger out there with those goggles and everything you know, and man, look again knocked them horrors grants. Man, I had to I had to wear I had to wear that my senior year high school basketball man because scared to wear contacts. Man, you can see everything, man, you just see it all. You know. Who won't be making a difference on the hardwood this year? King Kon, King Kong, I was
right here. Yeah, we talked about this last episode one. Yeah, because he had just started. Yeah, he's just starting it. But like think about the future, and yes, he's a great basketball player, but we know that. Tom's like, you're gonna make your money in the league, Like there's no doubt about it. So do you want to risk it? Because like that would be a devastating story if he risked getting injured and
playing. And ke Keon is good man, like one. I mean, I was looking at how he was cheering on the players during the game.
He was on the bench last game, and like, dude was a team player man, Like he's a he's the team guy, like, which is great, and like I think to his point, yeah, Tom, Tom has had first rounders time and time again, and he's had these conversations with his own guys, and you gotta have that true fat conversation with him, but also with Mail saying, look, we know you can do it, but we know you can take it to another level on the football field,
and we need you to get in that off season get healthy. And we talked about what he has to work on stray and jau that you know, he has all the other capabilities of every aspect level of the game, jump ball, route, running, blocking. Now let's talk about some home runs. Taking it drags post to the crib like that's really all it is.
And then I mean shout out to Tom have seen it and not saying hey, I'm gonna waste not waste your time, but I want to just sitting here collecting dust on the bench when you can be out there really getting ready for spring springball, but also next season because next season it's another stud year gone. Well. The big thing is I think if Keyon Coleman did not have the season he had this year in football, he would be playing basketball.
Keon Coleman had a breakout season this year, and it's like, oh, okay, you know I came to Michigan State as a two sport. You know I was recruited for football and basketball. But now I see where you know where my eggs are laying here. And I think too, if he did play football, he would lose that growth, that and those games that he can get in football from the training staff, from the weight room, you know, those those quick twitch muscles that he can be building,
those, uh, the morale he's building with his team. He wouldn't be there for offseason workouts, and that's when really true character shows. You know, those winter workouts that you do. I don't care what time they do it in the more at night, whatever, but those true characters show and the leadership aspect he will he would miss out of that with his team, and I think the right decision was made for him to focus on, you know, playing football, because like I said, the kid has a terrific
physique, He has great ball skills. He can he can jump out the gym for those fifty to fifty balls, and I think building that morale and that chemistry with with whoever the quarterback is going to be, being a leader in that locker room in the offseason and getting ready for springball, that's the best decision that was made. Ye Hey, what else said? I? Think Keon, you know, he's always gonna be a basketball alumni because he's been on the court and we saw him make the play, he actually scored
in the game. He's been on the team, so they can never take that away from him. The way I see it, they paying people the receivers like they almost they paying them quarterback money now in the NFL, which is only going up. You know, I think they're twenty five thirty in that range right now. By the time he gets they're gonna be forty plus
okay per year when it's oide for his second deal. Now, I say, when it's time to hang up to the cleats, they gonna do one of those spartan reunions at his crib and he gonna have his own basketball court
in the crib. Man. That's just the that's the plan. It's all gonna come back to Keon's crib where he got his basketball court, and they gonna bring old school day day and all in Dave, Draymond Green, all those guys in the in the current players, and they gonna pay play in Keon's crib basketball when he hangs the cleats up in the NFL in about twelve years from right now. That's what I'm saying he should do. Geez, you're a suit sayer man, that's what he's gonna do, say because he's
about to make that money. Many yeah, yeah, business, those nuances of the position man. Business, business decisions. Business decision man. Yes, like what one thing was also like, well, if you want to run track, That's what they were telling us back then, like we all football players all think they can and basketball players think they all can play football, and very few, far select few can go both and do both.
Did you did you know otis that you would in at Michigan State. I was gonna actually I was gonna be on the track team and before you he he ha ha. But I was gonna throw the shot put because in high school I won States, you know, throwing fifty eight. And I went in there, can you put here? We go? Can we think? I want to see their faces? We go. I went in to talk to the track coach and so I'm in Jenison. Bibbs, huh Bibbs, whoever was at the time. Yeah, this is you know, back when
I was there. So I go to Jennison. I'm sitting there talking to the track coach and He's like, yeah, so this is her schedule. And I look at this schedule. Now, I'm like, this is March tenth through seventeenth. You guys have me. So I was like, yeah, that's spring break. I got my trip to can Kom but can. I was like, no, I'm good. I'm good. I'm just think to football. Look, I'm an All state or a hurdler, and I was gonna do it. I'm gonna do it too too. But look,
I had that broke hands. It was all jacked up to that point where it's like, look, I got focused on get my body right, because one I'm not about gonna run track. And we got a new head coach coming in right, I'm like, no, I'm good. All had the same issue. You know, Perlos, I played for Pearls for one year, you know, a little known story, and he told me I could do both because I did win stay a couple of years of national championship and
shot put and I threw a little bit further than fifty eight. By the way, you too, But they said I could do what you do? Huh, what'd you do? I'm sixty plus, baby, you knows a man. Come on, now, you know one sixty one, one sixty three. No, No, I was lighter. I was alighter too. I was yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, I just punched the whole guy just like that. Though it was like that. But then when Nick Saban came in, he said, you you think go shopper? He said,
so you want a scholarship with Track? Then I said, okay, now my track career was officially over putting. Is that ball back to the to the quarterback. That's it. That's it, man, And so we all have a cross must bear. You know, it is what it is. But Keon is just in a more public eye hoop like on a high level and catching that rock on a super super super high level. So hey, man, you know, I'm sure he'll he'll be fine, uh playing football. But guys, hey, look that was a great show. It's
fifty six minutes. We're moving, man, and look, thank you for everybody who has tuned into the show. We will see you guys, and a couple of days, not long, a couple of days, you know, you know, so you know, you guys, have a good night. God bless This is for Otis Wiley, Jayu coulchred Our, Jason straight Horn, This is a Sparta, Have a good night, God blessed, and go green. Go right. This is Sparta MSU as a combine presentation
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