This is Sparta MSU! | Episode 29

The following is a presentation of play Fly Sports properties. Welcome to another episode of this This is Sparta. I am your host Jason stray Or, along Wi co host Otis Wiley and jay U to Q Corick. It is December the sixth, Tuesday, twenty twenty two, and we just had a jam Pack weekend Conference Championships. NFL portal opened up yesterday. Stuff is flying all over the place right now. People will now the CFB, the colleg football

Playoff that is it's set. Mischigan State now knows it's fade. As far as the bowl game or not, We're gonna get into all those things. But right now we're gonna talk about what happened this weekend. We're gonna go first off with the Pack twelve championship USC they fall. Oh yes, you see, you know this game was I think obviously closer than the score. You know, you saw Caleb Williams get you know, twisted up and playing

on a bad foot. Uh and at times where he was legitimately couldn't even move be mobile snapping the ball, and you know, I think that was a real detrimental effect for that team trying to make a comeback and it's like, you know, take him to the locker room, let the back of at least do something, because you know, Caleb Williams offensive threat. I mean it's his legs and so you take that away. He's one dimensional and you know it's tough to see as he was trying his best and then trying

to battle through. But Utah also played a great game. But the PACTOL Championship clearly, Uh you saw what is what set this thing off? Man? Where Jay's last episode, Jay, you wanted to put some presson on the ball committee, so he got he got his well wishes on that one for sure. Yeah, definitely Utah. You got to give him credit. They came out ready to play this USC team because at this point of the season, USC was firing all cylinders and they were coming in hot, and

uh, you know, Caleb Williams, he was feeling himself. He had the f Utah written on his on his fingernails, ready to go, and that came back to bite him in the butt. But you know that was it was a it was a good game. Utah pulled it off. Congratulations to them, right, Caleb Williams a guy who came in I mean the fourth ranked team in the country. It was in their hands as far as the destiny if they were going to go to the College Football Playoffs, have

a chance to play for a national championship. In Lincoln Riley's first year at USC, you know, wasn't able to punch their ticket to the College Football Playoffs. But do you think that Caleb Williams, since Blake Horn has gone down, is still the clear cut favor for the Heisman Trophy even after that

gutsy performance he had in a losing effort against Utah. Oh, that's a tough one because they're both, they're both you know, he's putting least stats on the board, and I think that's you know, to his his advantage. And you know, Blake Corn had a nice you know, stats seat before he went down, and I can only imagine what he would have put up on Ohio States defense if he was playing. Because his counterpart did the thug dizzle on himself. Yeah, I think, you know, well,

you can't you can't falt guy for playing an extra game. You can't hold that against him for getting his team further and playing in the in the championship, in the conference championship. So I think he did enough to solidify himself throughout the season that he is that guy, and it clearly showed that he is the heartbeat of that team because when he went down, that's when the

wheels started falling apart for USC. Yeah, clearly a dynamic player. You know, not a lot of us in Big ten country get a chance to watch USC on a daily basis because we're focused on a Big Ten. But this is a team that will be in the Big ten good point years, you know. So that's why we're tracking what's going on out there. You're seeing the emergence of all the new coaches that are coming into the Big Ten. Is gonna be a very exciting conference from coaches and players and just the

overall footprint. But as we move on to the Big twelve championship game, TCU, which is was in a prime position to punch their ticket to a

college football playoff, goes into overtime and loses the game. And uh wasn't enough though when you look at it, you know, number three and four guys both lost going into this college football playoffs, this conference championship season or weekend, and one team was knocked out in the USC was to open the door for Ohio State, but TCU losing a close game wasn't enough for BAMA

to leap frog them to get into the playoffs. Yeah, shout to some guys that got on that camp, the state staff that was I was with at SMU, you know, the head strength conditioning coach Tuma and Carroll Uh

you know, he's a he's a dude right there. And then you know when you look at this this game like this game was this game was nice, Like it was an opportunity to showcase obviously the Big twelve as you know, they saw Texas you know, going to the SEC soon and then you have Oklahoma as well, and so you know, looking at this opportunity for Kansas State to put this on the map of you know, TCU spoiling it

and they, I mean TCU was it was they were nervous. I think we talked about this where you know, they was I didn't want to see a case of they got this party going and they don't get in. Like I felt that kind of close on this vote here. But from being it so close and then beating you know, top team in TCU, you know, I think that show that TCU does have what it takes to compete in the CFP College Football Playoffs four top teams here. Yeah, I don't think

that was was it was close at all. Going into the game, I knew TCU win or lose their end. I did not think it was close. You know, they already beat Kansas State earlier in the year. Even though it was a close game. But once again, like I said, you can't fault a team for you know, advancing and playing in the championship. And I know before we talked about us Caleb Williams, you know,

etching his name on that Heisman Trophy. But who I would not be surprised to see at that Awards cereony as TCU's Max dug In the quarterback that gets an absolute dog. You could see, you know before that when he drove him down there and he was just so tired and just leaving everything on the field. You know, that kid's a dog. And I would not be surprised if he got the call to go to New York for the Heisman. Very interesting the whereas we move on down south to the SEC Conference with the

number one Georgia Bulldog's face l SU. It was an exciting game, but Georgia just too much for the Tigers as they roll fifty to thirty in that ball game. An absolute statement game for the Georgia Bulldogs. They knew going into this game they had to go in there and beat the dog heck eyes, we're in the locker room. Beg, it's all right. Georgia had to go there and beat the dog shit out of approval point that they're still

the big boy on the block. And that's exactly what they did. This game had nothing to do with you know, Kirby Smart and them could care less about winning the SEC championship. They have the national title on their minds and that game making a statement and striking fear, you know, making opponents

be like, damn you guys know what it's like. You know what it's like when you see on your schedule a team and that team's coming up and you you're watching them and they're hanging points on teams and they're being dominant. Now you're you're there's a little self doubt that creeps in there a little bit. So absolutely, you know, Georgia came out to make a statement and that's exactly what they did. They put the entire college football playoffs. On

notice. Listen, they're going back to back like no one's no one's stopping the Georgia Bulldogs. I mean, well, well, well we will talk about that. I know we'll talk about it. My stance is, and we will argue this later down the road here so now tonight. But those boys, those boys got it man and LSU, I mean, Coach Kelly

and that team. It was like they are who we thought they were and some so obviously we were gonna talk about this later down the road, but it was a It was a game that you thought would be possibly more closer than what it was. But Georgia had the whole thing, the entire way. So you know that fan base is crazy, man, and they got some guys and dudes on that team that can truly play at the next level right now in my opinion. So with LSU, you know, they paid

Brian Kelly all that money to come in. And my thought on this on Brian Kelly is, you know you have these guys you have like the New York Yankees had Mariolo Marioloa Rivera. He was the closer they played inner Sandman when he comes in because you knew he was gonna get it done. Brian Kelly does not have a closing bone in his body. He cannot coach his team in the big games. Every time they go to the big game, they get shellacked. When he was at Notre Dame, when they gave them

playoff chances, BCS chances, all those things get shellacked. And now he's in the SEC. He's gonna make it to the SEC Championship game, and what's gonna come out is his lack of in game adjustments and he's gonna get shellacked every time because he can't close. He put up thirty points though on George. Now that's the one thing. He put up a lot of yards and thirty points. So it wasn't as if they didn't move the ball or have any success. Yes, that defense was was getting suspect a little bit,

so he put up thirty points on them. But if you look at this box score here, you know Georgia did all their work early and you know, and then they chilled and relaxed at the end there, So it's not you know, I'm talking Earth, You got to start fast and go second quarter Georgia outscored n LESU twenty one to three, phaem Gun and Dusted. They had those boys in the bag. Hey, I don't know if

they the foot off the gas when they were up twenty five points. I think it was they decided to go for two because it was a statement game for them, the game they try to make a splash. Yeah, they did that. They definitely did that. Now as we move on to all right Neck of the Woods, the Big Ten Championship game down at Lucas Oil in Indianapolis, Michigan, that school down the road face Purdue in the Big Ten Championship Game. Hats off to Purdue because they may most likely will not

be into this championship game anymore as conference or divisions may go away. Purdue may never see this again. It's just I'm just be keeping it real. So if that being said, Misi Smith, we talked about this in our breaking news show. Would he played, and we said, look, there was no doubt in any of our minds that he was not only going to play in the game, but he was out there for the coin toss and then we even have him celebrating at the end with the trophy in the background.

Yeah, I kind of not last, but Jim Harmo's reference in that recent article of Today was like, I've never seen somebody say hayter ay and hater tops what does that even? You know? Mean? Clearly the rules, like we talked about are are are different there. And we talked about the photo of you know, Mazzie Smith plainting the suiting gun suthing fingers at the trophy like almost like I'm getting off, I'm cool and clean. I got support. That game was if you think about, for dude, getting

into the red zone and cannot convert. If they've converted all those the field goals to touchdowns, it'll be probably a different story if you look at it. That's just my opinion. When you're looking at that game, I'm trying to take my hater right off of here, but no hater tots over here, boy, But think about how many times you got in the red zone and convincingly driving the ball down there and they just couldn't convert in the red

zone. So those field goals, I mean, you can't catch up and keep up and keep getting field goals when Michigan was still scoring, Yeah, exactly, you can't. You can't exchange three points for six points every time you're down there. Uh, you know, and like you said, and going into the half, it was a one point game. Uh, but Purdue did not have the moxie and the sustainability to go through and uh and hang with the Wolverines. And you know, like straight said, kudos to

Purdue, thanks for coming. See you in the next decade. And then we can't get that Cora back because we hey, we've been We've been in that three times, so you know, we we we've been there and then we've been there. And just just so do you guys just read the Heisman finalists are just announced. Step hasn't been it, Max Duggan, ce J's Trout, and Caleb Williams. We just talked about Caleb now, I mean that don't sleep off Stepson. The number one team in the country, you

know, the Georgia Bulldogs. That kid, you know, I know he's getting those security as a college. He's like Chris Winky was mur Chris wink from Oh Yeah. But but I know you guys gonna laugh at me. I said this earlier that Max Stuggan My sources, My sources are telling me that guy is a sneaky favorite for that Heisman Trophy. I'm not saying he's gonna win it, but he's gonna be He's gonna surprise a lot of people in the voting, and that's gonna shift around a lot of these votes here

for these these Heisman Trophy winners here. Oh yeah, you you kind of wish that they were like prolonging the Heisman passed to see a P championship. Yeah, this is you got what all four? What all four of them is? Besides Ken threw the three out of the four that's playing in in more more exclusive high you know, bowl games and CFP. So I feel like maybe this is the Iceland a cake Like it's close neck and neck, it's your body of work on the season. It's your body of work on

the season. I get that, but I'm saying they should reconsider and and how how how how much do you smile to see uh Blake krum left off after the treatment that h K nine got last year and all those guys there ain't no doubt about it. I agree, it's amazing. Blake, what's this is? Sta? What was the final stat? Like? Obviously K nine is last season to Blake corm season. I know they both had eighteen

touchdowns, but Kin had about two hundred more yards than Blake. Now, granted Blake missed what two and a half game something like him, that's on him. That's on him. Hey, that's coming from a Fumer runner. That's the running back talking right. I saw Javon Ringer had a moniscus tear two weeks he was back, so I had some loose bone chips floating in there, got that scope, the moniscus moved around a little bit. I was back out there. That's on him. He's I know exactly what he's

doing. I don't you know. He's preparing himself for the next level. He's not risking or anything like that. So this opportunity to ext your name on the Heisman Trophy to you know, be in the Nissan Heisman commercial, the Heisman house wasn't important enough to him. So I'm not gonna sit here and feel bad for him. And I love those facts. And I hope that people down the road are burning couches and saying, you know, Blake Korm got screwed because Blake Korm screwed Blake Korm Ooh, hey, you know,

maybe it's just me. I see the damage. I remember watching Javon Ringers injury, like I saw that happen. Yeah, this one I didn't even I don't know. I mean, he's getting surgery whatever, But man, you know, he's a tough kid. There's no I can't take anything away from that. But I just didn't see it being like a catastrophic injury, you know, like one of those who was the Clinton Ports the kid from Miami, and that just got his need. McGehee willis McGahee, you

know, like KRM. He he's protecting this as his investment and rightfully so he should do that. So he has no other years eligible to play it, doesn't he have extra years. He's going to do the league, absolutely none. He's going to the league. That's why he's not. If he was coming back next year, he would be playing in the college for he's gonna have a month to to get that surgery recover. He's gonna have a But he's he's going to the league. That's why he's not gonna That's why

he's not playing. He's gonna declare for the league. He's got to declare for the league because of Donovan Edwards. You know, Donovan is clearly the new feature back at Michigan as you see the production that he's had the last two weeks. Another guy that you know when you look at that matchup, if you see Michigan is gonna be playing TCU in the first round of playoffs out in Phoenix and Michigan, and then you're gonna have Georgia, you know,

yeah, oh yeah, that's gonna be a difference. You know, right there, you're gonna see, Like it's hard for us to say this, but it looks like it's going to be a Georgia Michigan national title game the way things are matching up right now. And as you said, old as you think that there's nobody that's gonna beat Georgia, I disagree with that. I totally disagree with that. Listen, listen. I disagree with one. I'm a hard for frog this this next month. And that's not the

it's this, it's this. Yeah, it's like that, you know what I mean? The horn fraud. They got different things, the horn frogs. Yeah, because you got what hook them horns? Craziness, right. I truly believe that t c U when they play ball, they're they were forced to be reckoned with. And I'm saying that because Sunny Dice got those guys rolling and year one coming to Fra coming straight from down the road, and that's in you. I just feel like if their defense makes the proper

stops, that offense is electric. So it's one of those things that Michigan got tied up on that secondary because uh produced was getting busy back there, you know, one on one. So it's just kind of things where I think it's gonna be more evenly played. They're like, they may get Michigan or off of your money. I agree with you one hundred percent. Otis. I think TCUs firing all cylinders that the key for them in that game.

They're gonna have to make two crucial stops defensively so they can get that advantage. And and you know, to be the one that's not chasing. When I say not chasing, I mean you know that are up all the time and the Michigan has to tie them or go ahead. You know, they can't be chasing, so they have to get those two crucial stops there. And if I'm a Michigan fan, you know I'm not you know, he he ha, hid over here because I think on the other side of

that bracket there don't sleep on the Ohio State Buckeyes. And if you get Ohio State and it's Michigan Ohio State and Michigan fans think we already beat them once. As my Grandpapy will always say, the same thing to make you laugh, will make you cry. Oh, we've heard that one already. Okay, this is true. It could be a rematch. I mean, Michigan versus Ohio State. But you know, as you said, TCU very

formidable upon it. I mean I did get a chance to watch them against Texas in that ball game, and in Texas tried to come back late in that ball game to make it competitive, but TCU just throttled them. You know, physically, that team is not the typical Big twelve team the way that we traditionally know the Big twelve to be high offensive output, very little defensively, not very big upfront. This team looked very stout up front. They can run the ball at will, and they can play defense. Man.

I mean, this is an exciting matchup. I think the playoff committee got it right in the four teams that they selected, and I think whoa, whoa, whoa the playoff coman. You're the one that was saying Alabama was gonna get in. See here we go. Oh listenby let me tell you something. The lobby for Alabama. This carried on till Tuesday, which today, and it wasn't on selection on Sunday. I'm telling you those voters, those people that are in that committee could have been swayed the fact that

on Sunday at noon as early as it has been in a while. By the way, and you've seen all that out for the support at the TCU facility. Did you guys watch the show. Did you see how many people were there, how many cameras were there? There were no cameras in there. There was no there were no Rolling Tide team meetings and cameras around there. They didn't That's why they weren't there, because they knew they weren't gonna

be You have two losses, there's no way you're going in. I don't give a damn who's coaching you, Nick Saban, Jesus Moses, anybody. You're not going to get in. You're not gonna get in over a one loss team that played in a conference title game. When you were sitting at home and you lost to Tennessee listen, listen, you seem very angry about it. Listen, Look, the media had always got Nick saving in that

nice Crimson Crimson colored vast jacket. Hey, what was he that on Fox during the Big Ten Championship He was up little lobbying like we deserve to be in this, Like, hey, man, it's okay to go to a regular ball game, like those days are gone, those days are gone. You had an opportunity. Nickas gonna give him hell no matter what. Look, man, all I'm saying is that lobby is heavy to be considered. See tell you you gotta understand that you're you're saying the two loss Sea.

There's a lot of two loss teams. I didn't see their coaches on, you know, during the Big Ten Championship game talking coming on TV, breaking in there like hey, talking about I mean, the only chip he had to play was the point spreads and and favoritism as far as vegans is concerned,

which is it's a weak argument. Also, strength and strength is schedule, Like, Bro, you got those matchups right and balling right to the top teams, but then you play those cupcakes like McNee State and Citadel out of the eighty two Bowl eligible teams, which could State was not able to backdoor a Bowl spot with five wins. As we found out this past weekend and championship weekend that teams like Buffalo and they were able to get to their

sixth win and mischis State will not be bowling this year. Well, AnyWho, we are at the crib. We aren't the page. We are one short, shooting ourselves in the foot because we had the opportunity to get LOO eligible. But I think from the standpoint of all the injuries, all what we went through like it's probably for the best in my opinion, but it's an opportunity to turn the page and truly focus on how do we get this

back on track now? Roster management coming, shuffling, transfer portal, you know it is it is a twenty four hours day they leave this month where they are truly looking how do we set this up for success next season, which we need all the time to get healthy but also develop what we got and what we're going to try to bring in here. My question is, you know, how do you you know you hit on it? You know,

how do you refresh the page? Do you use to transfer portal as a you know, as a splash as an NFL slash free agency market there, or do you go the traditional route that not a lot of people are doing, Not a lot of colleges are doing it because coaches aren't afforded the time that they were afforded hell three years ago by recruiting kids, bringing in those classes, having that blood, sweat and tears together from freshman, sophomore, junior, senior year. You know, you know, how do you

do that and what's their approach to that. Do you just go into portal and get a couple guys and then rely on high school guys coming in and building a culture and building program, or do you continue to hit the portal and bringing guys in from all walks of life in different areas and hoping to find this bond for them. Well, guys, there's a lot that needs to happen. I think for misc stated to get back on track. I think that mel Tucker and the staff is going to work through these things through

the transfer portal, through high school recruiting. Right now, you know, the portal just opened up a day ago. The guys are on the road. The coaches have been on the road to see them. You know, they were with one of the Prize recruit standing the kid, the big big offensive lineman out of Alabama. Uh, it looks like Mel was there with Jay Johnson and coach kat all eating very very good in the neighborhood down there at almost like a family reunion type of dinner. So you know they're out

there sealing up, making sure those guys aren't being flipped. They're trying to get new recruits. They're they're fishing the portal and then they're working to see, you know, which guys they want to save on our own roster right now and doing roster management from that aspect. But you know, if you're listening right now, you know I want to thank you guys for listening. Be sure to kick cluck the thumbs up button, the light button and subscribe

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colo rodo. Guys, what you think about this splash right here coming out of Jack the state twelve and oh still has a championship game to play now the new coach for the Colorado Buffalos. Uh. First of all, shout out to the creative marketing crew here h this photo shop and got the icy snow mountains on the Ona sades. Uh. They pimped uh prime time coach Prime very well out coming out to marketing this this move. You know, Jay, you already said his sources had UH had told him already that that

was happening, and clearly he was correct. So keep on bringing that information that classified information here. You know, there's that clip of that you know sports broadcaster or the news local guy that was interviewing beyond that, Like I feel like we need to show that clip. But it was a hilarious interact with coach Prime on talking about, you know, hinting at hey, you know, do you got a room do you want to come to Denver with me to go see a football game? And Coach Prime is just saying,

you know what you're talking about? Man, Like this is before they even did the championship game, and so they just bust out laughing. But we should saw a little clip of that. One of my favorite teams in Kansas City Chiefs right now. Yeah, next week they played at Denver Broncos in Colorado. I'm going with you and you we're gonna ride together. It's good. Now, that's a good one. That's a good one. There, I got in it. Now that's the good one. That's a good one.

There, that was a good one. Come on, sit back down here, come on, So why are you going to do your boy like? No, no, no, no, I coach I never been I've never been there, but I'm going I'm going there. Well, I'm going next week when the Chiefs played Bronco Colorado, Never Colorado. What you're trying to say? I just want to know what we ride together? Why am I going? What you think? Well? Let so they're playing Okay, this week my team played the Bengals. I'm just asking. You told me

that I ain't tell you what you told the fella. They told the man they'll ask a question. He asked a questions and you he asked all this stuff about your beard and all that you used that. But when I asked you, can I ride with you to Colorado? Why would you? Why would you assume I'm going to Colorado? Don't you could have been to all these places. I've never been to Colorado? Would you assume I'm going to Colorado? I'm just good stuff? You playing at the room? Yes,

season be over with and look and season be on. So we got we're going to get were going to get. You gotta stop, man, Okay, this is good though, this is you, this is yours. You thought that thing got no but you ask you no questions about none of that

I appreciate. But coach Prime and a d Rick George. Uh. When I used to work with with my last employer, I was running all of the Lead one association, that's all the fbs A flooded directors in the country and Power Power five Division one and we always have this conference and so uh the A. D Rick George was on the board of Lead one at the time, and you know, always interacting with him, it is always it

was always like a good, good interaction. And you know, him going out to pay what Coach Prime you know is worth and giving him an opportunity to get into the Power five speaks volumes on you know, his decision making on there, and so I think that this is a great move man,

It's an opportunity of upward mobility. I know that we're getting a lot of issues on the on the on the social handles with with them talking about you know, how did he give up on the kids that he had there at Jackson State, And that's a topic of conversation, but he is this is

a good move. This is also talking about the press conference and also let's let's transition to that first transition meeting when he talks to the to the team that's currently there, and you know that was that's something we're gonna bring up right now. Well before that, I mean, how is it gonna be when he hits the give him my theme music the first time in Colorado? They go to a band gonna be able to keep up with it? They

played some theme music for him walking into that team meeting. He did, but that was but it was a different song though, wasn't all eyes on me? Yeah? All eyes over what my hitters? Yeah? You know that Colorado. I just want to know, Hey, how quickly do you throw out the love word? Like he's I'm saying I love you, I love you Rick George, He's like, I love you too, Prime, Like yeah, they got to know the last month, m right, Yeah, yeah, this has been going on for a little while. See,

I mean that's how these things go. Well, yes, it's been going on for a while, because it was weeks ago when my source told me that what's going to Colorado? And yay, hey, hey, you know he's noting to have this like Lebron James vibe. Like I knew it. You know why I can say that because when I told you guys, especially Otis, was like, man, ain't no way Prime going to Colorado?

Like he that's what I did. Put a little extra in there, kind of like Uh, like Eddie Murphy coming to America and the barber say, you have never seen doctor Martin Luther, King, Martin Luther, the King. Yeah, but no with this move here, a lot of people are giving Coach Prime flak for this, you know, for leaving an HBCU university when he went in there to you know, he said his goal, his

purpose was to uplift the university and put some attention on the swack. And you know, you can't take away anything that that guy did for that conference, those universities in the last three years. That when did you see swack games on a on a more current rotation on ESPN, You know, it was when Coach Prime came in there. He came, he uplifted those, he took you know, he took that university and turned it upside down,

turned it on its head. People were talking of about it. People are donating money, you know, to to college's historical black colleges and universities. So give that man his due for that. And now he's taken that passion somewhere else to elevate you know, black coaches in Power five rank and in the you know FB conferences. You know, he's doing those things he's you

know, he's transitioning to another level to do that. But I will say if I was a member of that Colorado team, I'll be calling my mama after that press conference that he did. Your point, he elevated black coaches and and and staff wise, and you know the one thing that's really going to be talked about is, I know, you're bringing your son over to be the quarterback, and if you're the quarterback of Colorado, like that's an immediate life. He's gone, he's already. He know he is. I

know he is. But I'm saying, like you should like the way you announced, hey, hey, Colorado fans meets a new quarterback. Like like the amount of feeling that like that is just an ultimate, big, big boss move that we're seeing in his public I love it. I love it. You know. The thing that that that's gonna be the most like,

I guess interesting is his his quota quotableness prime. You know, because when you listen to that whole if you listen to this whole transition speech to the team, you know there there was a lot in that it was heavy and it was very forward. You know I'm coming. I mean I felt like he took a little bit of that tuck coming for himself, right. And he's very very articulate. He can come out with he has new, new

new ways to motivate players. He's a he's a minister up there. He's like a great orator, right, And he said, uh I, he said, a few positions are already spoken for. He said, yeah, I'm bringing about ten or eleven with me. I bring my own luggage.

And it's Louis, now you take what people have now changed that to say is like he told all the players of Colorado to get in the portal and that he got his own players coming in there, and they all Louis like, you know, his the way that his words are gonna be twisted can either uplift him or demonize him. And that's what you're gonna see here.

And it's gonna be also interested to see. Now that he's in a power five structure, he's gonna have to deal with something that he hasn't had to deal with before, coming from the Little league to high school to the swack. You don't have boarder regions and trustees and athletic directors that have pressure from donors. He hasn't had that yet, So it's gonna be an interesting dichotomy

to see how that whole drama plays out. If you guys under stay where I'm coming from, because we see this in the Big Ten on a daily basis, how the political side of things affect the game itself. And Prime is coming in as a guy who's played two sports at his highest level and had a lot of success and now having success coaching in the slack. Will

he be able to navigate those waters? Yeah? I think he definitely will be able to navigate navigate those those our lats because the biggest thing about him what he's gonna do is and this is the smartest thing that he's gonna do, because we all know he was not a at Jackson. He was not

a coordinator or anything like that. He's going to surround himself with the best coaches that he can find, and Colorado's going to allow him to and give him the resources too, because this hire is put in Colorado football like before this higher like how many times other than if you're in Michigan about hearing Mel Tucker came from Colorado? Did you hear about Colorado football? You didn't?

It has been decades since Colorado football really prominent, and now they're on the forefront, they're on the ticker, they're on the cover page of ESPN and everything like that. So Colorado's gonna find they're gonna scrape up the resources to allow him to surround himself with the best coaches, the best scouts, the

best recruiters that he can find. So it's gonna put him. All he's gonna be doing is just managing and motivating, managing, motivating, getting in press conferences talking, you know, doing his thing and drawing money to that conference. He's gonna draw attention from recruits to that school, and you're gonna see it. And Colorado the ad, the president's the board of regents that you just mentioned. They're gonna sit back and start reaping the benefits and the

rewards for that. But he has to win's got a win. Man. You talk about Cordell Steer, Michael Westbrook back in those days, the enemy on enough guys, you guys, probably indicapl BM is running that rock in the day, was coordinated for the Kansas City Chiefs. But there's been that long ago since Colorado was truly relevant, and they've been I mean, what were they one and eleven last year? So yeah, who's and you say he's bringing his own luggage, He Dan Wills should brings his own luggage.

When you win one game, you know, in the Pats, you win one game, yeah you you you you everyone's in a chopping block. Then that's why that coach is gone, His assistants are gone. All you everyone's in the chopping block. You won one game and you expect to be there. That's what people don't understand when people when you sign a scholarship, people think, oh my god, you got a four year full ride. No year to year you have to sign that scholarship. People don't understand that.

People don't know that that's a year two year thing and it's how you perform, you know. So that's why the pressure and that's why I want to say, you know, athletes should be a student, athletes should be paid, yes, because it's all that mounted pressure to perform and be there for that next year. So when you want to win one damn game, something's gonna bring their own luggage because they're not going to be left like the coach

that you won one game work. That coach is out on the employment unemployment line without question. I mean we talked about transition speeches, what so like we're gonna get into the transition speeches. One more thought man, look more thought Like people failed to realize Prime if he sticks to it, his DNA is as a coach, but as a person, which we already know Prime is gonna be coach. Prime is he's a leader of men, like he is running a program of excellence. And you know he's not just talking it,

you know he is truly walking it. Especially with Jackson State. You know, those guys never seen a structure. I mean I won't, I won't discredited you know, his predecessor there at Jackson State. But I'm saying the structure that he brought into the pro style element of coaching these kids on and off the field, I think that speaks volumes of what Colorado may have obviously been missing. And that's where he's going to take over. And you

know he's not switching up. And I'm sure you know Prime talked to Rick Georgean's like, listen, if I'm gonna come, I'm not coming to be anyone's you know, I say puppet, but more so I'm not I'm going to be me, and I need you to let me be me and trust that being me is going to get us the success. It's going to get us to flip the tide. So I think that Colorado opened, They've already exposed themselves that they are wanting change, and in order to get the change

that they want, they got to go get the best. And Rick George and his staff and team did the best that they could to go get the best. And this is I think it is a perfect fit the best for their program. Absolutely, yes, yes, And I think you hit a good point there. Otis about coach Prime being him and Jason you said it earlier too. The Board of Regions, all these things were probably talked about. The perception, the image, the way that coach Prime dresses. He's

not gonna be dressing like other coaches in that league. You know, it's gonna be a little different. You know, he's gonna be widing around his golf carts. He's gonna be doing things a little different. It's gonna be that Mama, there goes the neighborhood a little bit. You know, they already talked about those I think, you know, do you win or do you you don't want to stay mediocre. You know what, you gotta pick,

pick your battle. Listen flashbacks when I was a little jig and Deonna Sanders was on the Dallas Cowboys. That's when I was living in Flutville, Texas, born and raised in Austin. We go to training camp where they have training camp at Saint Edwards University back then, and I remember, like when you see like a super hero or you see a role model, like that's flashy, but like represents the culture. Like as a young boy, you see Deon Sanders come out the locker room and they have to take golf

card. He's always been in that golf card game. The golf car had full decked out rims, a full surrounding system, and he was playing music like just as you see as a as a coach right now, and like you knew Deon Sanders was coming, and like you just kind of stop and be like, man, that's prime time, bro, Like that's Deon Sanders. And watching him in action in practice truly was like, man, this dude is amazing electric, He's superhuman. And that's just a little flashback because

I'm like the same guy you see as a head coach. He's been his way since day one and has switched up, which is very respectful. I respect it, right, But talking about transition meeting's got no you brought that up? Yeah, me and Jay are we all three of us have been a part of a Michigan State coaching transition, I guess so, which is an unusual thing, you know, from from a lot of college football players you talk about like not only Michigan State, but like around the country.

It's a unique time to see being involved in a coaching transition where you're the old the player, the coach who's been ousted, fired or left for another for greener pastors, so called green and pastors, and now a new coach comes in. This is the first time I think that they've actually taped one of those and put it broadcasted out for the world to see. Like with

social media. You know, this happens every year to different teams, but this is the first time that I can recall it ever being where somebody can listen in on the full meeting, like from when he walked in that room until he was ready to walk out of that roll. That's a good point. That's a good point because typically that meeting is behind closed doors, and that's that's what their team one on one. It was the full thing.

Let's let's go back a little bit to they've never showed a coach telling his players he's leaving, and so it was a whole thing. Like it was a this is different, totally different. Like he said, let's let's get it out. Let's talk like that was one of them. He's like, I can remember Nick Saban saying that to the players in Michigan State that he

wasn't leaving, and then he left, right right. I remember that when he came in and gave a speech and the coach man he gave his Hamburger stands speech about I mean, he invoked fear on every player and that in that room. I wish that stuff was on tape. He probably wouldn't be. He wouldn't have made it twenty years because some activists would have came out and said that he wasn't you know, right, But I'm telling you like

that was a unique thing. But for a guy like Dean to show him talking to his former team now and then being right up front with him and telling them what's gonna happen, I want you to hear from me. I don't want to hear from nobody else. Now. Then they show him talking to the new team guys and he says, ask the questions. Now, you've been talking in the locker room before. You don't leave here and start

talking and running your mouth after that, talk to me right now. That now that was like in your face, bold, let's get it out there as real as real can get. Yeah. Football, absolutely, And I'm thinking about and we were talking about this offline a little bit from transitioning from when UH coach D you know, when John oh Smith was fired. Coach D comes in there, and in the back of my head, I knew

I was still gonna be at Michigan State. Was there a question of Okay, well I still be tailback, you know, or is he gonna move me to fullback? Because I knew he liked to, you know, run a twenty one set or everything like that and being a bigger back. They're like, okay, let's put him a fullback. So I knew I was still gonna be at Michigan State. So that wasn't that fear in the back

of my head. But this when they were showing Coach Prime talking to this Colorado team that went one and eleven, there were a lot of guys who was like, am I gonna be here? Do I fit this persona? Do I fit this role here? So that was that question. That's that difference there, and I, as a player, I appreciate the transparency that coach Prime brings along. He said, yes, I'm bringing luggage with me. My son he's gonna be the starting quarterback hunter, the dB. He's

gonna be coming here and being the dB here. My son Shador he's gonna be the dB. My other son's gonna be filming everything. You know. He's put everything out there, so there's nobody saying, oh, I didn't know, I was misled. That's why I'm going to hit the transfer portal. This is your opportunity to do so now. And he put that out

there on the table for everyone, and I can appreciate that. But it was a total different transition from when coach Dantonio came in and that speech that he gave to us players and otis you can go more into details about this speech there because you do a better coaching the impression than me because you probably,

yeah, talk about that guy. How was that transition speech, you know, because I know you know D'Antonio was on the staff when Saban came in, but you knowing the kind of guy he is, like was he was it a fiery speech that he put invoked fear into you guys or did you feel like real mormoncusst I wasn't because I was looking at that big o'hio State championship ring, you and me both, but the ring, the ring. So you know, we all we all like sophomore my sophomore year,

Jay's junior year, like I was. I was in surgery, like I had hands like rich surgery right at the end of the season. So like once we once we knew, like John Smith gave his speech to us, but that's something that we should talk about prior to that Penn State game, like we were in the same situation, like I talked about our episode to go. If we win this game against Penn State, you get to go

bowl game. So they notified the staff. Groan Mason a ad at the time, notify the staff right before like that week of practice, and so I think it was Thursday where he brought the team together and was like, hey, fellas we are we are we've been notified when you're not fired, and uh, you know, we're gonna do all that we can to win this game. And you know, if we do, we're gonna spend all their damn money. So when you think about that, we're like, oh,

yeah, we're gonna play for our coach recruited us. Oh we love John Nelle. We're playing. We lose, obviously, we know we're not gonna have a coach. You kind of start thinking, all right, what is next for me? Because we didn't have the luxury to go transferred right out and play. There was even if the coach got fired, like you still have to sit out, And so I think we all were thinking who will be the next person. Some of our counterparts and our teammates were part

of the search or helping the search. Yeah, like what do we want in the quality of a coach? As they go out and search for it, you know, we start hearing all the rumors, you know, those four guys that you know listed at the top four, And at this moment, I didn't know of coach d I mean I do know we were we were watching you know, Cincinnati the successful and you know we didn't know truly

what the other deal was. But from a standpoint of when he gets the job that we're in that room, the old Smithson Auditorium, and to Jay's point, he's hitting the he's hitting the big the national championship from Ohio State on his hand, and he's hitting that podium and strategically, I'm not sure if he was aware, but I think he was. When he was trying to make this point that we are going to win championships and you guys are

gonna be the foundation. It was a different tone because he was stating right out the gate, you guys are my guys. Like so he he kind of cleared the room in the air, but he did say is that everybody's job is up for evaluation. Like the weeds. You say, what again, pull the weeds? Yeah, he said, we're gonna pull the weeds, man. And then he that's when he started talking about we're all gonna get on one of one one train. We're gonna go together. That's the

only way we're gonna do it. But we're gonna pull the weeds. Basically, the weeds will pull themselves. And so when he starts switching this up, you know, we truly, like I mean, people were like, if you in the locker room, people were nervous, man, Like, if you're messing up with the other code, you know the stuff that's off the feel like, that's that can easily get you like pulled out. Like you basically left the meetings, like, man, am I one of those

weeds? Like I started self reflecting and started looking internally, like, man, what did I do to even be valued or warranted that I can at least get, you know, if I could least go to this next team, or do I need to go and look at the transfer. I don't even know what the transperporter looks like because I never really back then, I didn't know what it looked like because I never really got to that point where

I was gonna transfer. To Jay's point, I knew I'm staying here because I selected this university for the university's perspective and I was having success, so like, I mean, I'm gonna fight for my job basically. But yeah, it was a it was a different tone. I'm gonna tell you, guys what I'm gonna tell you guys. One thing you guys were afwarded was probably the softest transition in the history of college football, because I look at

that's that right there. Like when you talk to one Mark D'Antonio, he takes pride in the fact that they didn't lose many guys. He talks about that all the time. He'll say, well, you know one thing that's you know, we we we got we we got here. We we ain't lose anybody because we had some dogs. Yo. No, no, it's not about dogs. It's not you guys losing a lot of games, by

the way, a lot of games. I mean, yes, so that some bad people scheme scheme, you guys lost more games than perlists guys lost, just so you know, scheme, But it was it was it was we means you got, you got. Look, and you had some arrogant players that were mailing it in when they shouldn't have a lot of times to guys that were maybe uh maybe not treating themselves the right way on the during the weeks. Uh that will be preparing for games. So those things that

you have to evaluate that. But he had his culture for a lot was much more family and together oriented and like, hey, we gotta all go in the same direction versus the typical coaching change. This is what Dean is coming in more atypical than not. You know, he's showing you he's being transparent, but he is coming in with the Hey, we're gonna run some of you off. Because there was a question that came up, like have you have you thought about you know, what what what what? What kind

of are you? What positions you're looking to change? Or are you what kind of kick? Who's your strength and conditioning guy? And he says, I haven't thought about that. He said, I'll get back to you on that. He said, but you know, some of you guys are gonna run off, and then the other guys we're gonna try to make quit m He said that, and he said and then he said, if you're on

this list of you ain't worth the damn you out of here anyway. So like that's way different than what Mark D'Antonio came into Michigan State saying, you didn't he didn't just flat out get rid of people. Know, there's some weeds that you talked about, and that was that that makes you win, just that part, right. Imagine if he talks about lift some list that

you don't on the list. The thing that I think you know, coach d' antonio's approach, and I can respect that is because he came in respecting us as players, and that's how you know, we you know, earned his respect. So I think there's that little give and take, you know. And to say that because you know, I think Coach Prime came in because he wants people to leave. Coach he didn't want people to leave, you know, if they were supposed to be there. So that's why I

think those two approaches are a little different. Why do you think that is? Do you think it's it's because of or the day, the era that we're in, the era that we're in. It's when now, when coach d came in, he had three four years. Yeah, yeah, you had you had that three four years to rebuild. Right now you got two

years tops with trans report on everything, you got two years tops. And in the way that Coach Prime's coming in coming in hot like that with the glets, the glamour, the walk in songs, the walk out songs, everything that leash because they're gonna he's gonna be scrutinized based on everything. Yeah you got changed, Yeah you got swag. Yeah you're dancing. Win a damn game. They're gonna say game it when he starts to talk and then

look this starts to close and it's just James World. God. Look man, look we gotta we got a transition out and we can talk Ben. We can be on he show us a couple hours at a time. But like, let's talk about the dogs in the league. Man. Highlights from this weekend. Yeah, Scott, listen you you kind of like when it you know when this happened. First of all, it's against Aaron Rodgers,

so that's like bucket list, right, anybody want to get that. But you know when he when he got it and then he starts running, it was like, oh, this is a first career in a session. I'm like, yo, that Scott's out here doing it. They just like you get a good pick. And he's playing for the Eagles, man, and the Eagles have a great a great season as far. So like to be on that team and then that secondary and then it's a Spartan dog like that.

I was like one coach Bartnett is worth, he's that guy. Because Barnett's putting guys in the league. It was just good to see, you know, another secondary guy from forming former dB to the next he's showing up, showing up his spartnation. What you do with that? What you do with that ball? After he ran and celebrate, you run straight to the equipment guy and say, hey, hey, hey, save this from it and put tape around it. Just skuy Scott's first NFL T I n T

boom. Next thing you know, it's sitting in your locker and that's going on your mantle right there. That's it. Then you got it down. Get that ball right over. Hey, I got I got one from five. No, I was playing offense, I know, no, no, I it warm ups, caught it in warm up. It's gonna it's gonna be worse something some day. I'm out down in Pittsburgh. So Atlanta Connor and Cam Cam Hayward, you know, they're the legendary sons of Ironhead.

Hayward Ironhead and had them both in the state of Georgia. They're from Atlanta, then locals. They went back there, visited his grave, go to play the falcon and Conner scores his first career touchdown. Man, Let's let's talk about that route though, because he had the boys beat five yards seven yards ooh, got him on the ok, though little out and upslt.

He looked like he slimmed down a little bit too. And you know with this play here and you you you hit on everything on this astray, you know them being from Atlanta one visits great, don't you don't you put it past coach Mike Tomlin. He knew how special it was for the Hayward family, and and Iron had Hayward played for the Falcons. So I think all through the week now they they had this like, hey, let's get him a touch in there, like he has an opportunity to score and and honor

his family, you know. So I think, you know, that was very cool by the you know, by the organization, and you could see by the way his teammates are running to him to celebrate, really cool. And it's how great is it to be on the same team as your big brother? You know, that's you can't beat that. I mean, it's incredible. I mean that that's it's not not by accident that the Steelers have I think four sets of brothers on that team. Mike Toblin does a phenomenal

job with that man. Look, we also think about we don't talk about Hayward as much as like one of the missing pieces. Like we give Kate nine everything, but dude, Hayward stepped up big for us last season, that eleven two season, and you think about the missing hole that we had where you know, we got some tight ends that we thought we'll replace and

you know, put some more production on there. But this guy was like multi dimensional for us on the offensive side and that just transitioned into the league. And it's kudos to the Spartan Doug and Hayward doing this thing. Make getting that first touchdown Now, I wish we saw that Benny Fowler dance with him, like what would he would have did something different than the gritty is up, But that's not him, man, He's a guy that just works,

gets the touch got the touchdown good. Speaking of gritty, some of the worst gritty out there is from one Kirk Cousins and he's bawling in Minnesota. Absolutely a man. Fine, not say finally because it's been eleven years, but he's putting together like you could tell like he is in control. Like this guy is. He got he got weapons too. I mean you and you got justin Jefferson. I mean those are two games won. Two punches here Kirk, my first cousin, Baby Holland's Finest, Baby Holland's Finest.

I just want him to let us on his golf course he just bought. We gotta get Kirk on the show. We will, we will do that. Nothing speaking of like, so that's the dogs in the news. It ain't transferred portal news so far. Only two dogs so far that have been in the portal that are as of now, Like when you're talking about the portal opening up just yesterday on Monday, that was the Shawn Mallory and Jalen Hunt, two defensive linemen who were productive in the end of the season.

Didn't really see this one coming, guys. I'm sorry, mam. I never meant to hurt you. I think that's the wrong song. Cleaning out my closet, cleaning out the closet, cleaning out all of Coach D's left over and making it making it Coach Tucker's program. Now, is you know that? I think the homage, the respect was there, and now it's going to be fully Coach Tucker's guys that are in there now mm hmm,

it's time, Bun. I don't know, man, It's just like we talked about maybe they've been on the seat this entire time, you know, like you had opportunities to show you what you got and you haven't seen it till late when it bloom. But I mean, it is what it is. Man. You saw, you know, Michael Fletcher, you know, going in one of my karmenades Worth guys, and you know then you got obviously the first was our pace kicker. So honestly, I'm surprised we

haven't had mortgage yet. But it's one of those things that we're gonna go. The D on its Carter. He's Carter, he entered it. Wow, Well he's the whole D the whole D line is it's going. But hey, so does that mean we got some of those in the house coming up? Is some dose in the house. I mean that means there's four additional spots open on the roster if you think about it, you know, for the recruiting side and the portal side at the portal, like I mean,

for real, in the portal. It's ridiculous. Another Texas, two more texts, A and M player. He don't leave. He doing lobby right now, man, that collective and they want their money back. Yeah, I think they can't. They can't sustain it. Thirty million dollars or whatever it was sav saving remember saving gunning for him. Remember in the beginning of the season they bought their whole class. Yeah, well they bankrupted it.

Well, guys, hey, man, Like, so if this is something that's gonna be interesting, We're gonna continue to track what's going on with the portal. It is heavy, heavy recruiting season. The coaches are on the road right now. It is open contact season, so there's gonna be a lot of guys being flipped left and right. We're gonna see more people entering the portal and uh, let the fireworks begin, as we shall say. And you know, like, guys, you know, it's been a

jam packed weekend. We've got a lot going on going forward. You know, Michigan State basketball, we didn't get a chance to get to that yet. Misisters State does lose a tough loss a couple of days ago to Northwestern in the Breslen Center. Todd Minslo's got to figure some stuff out there. We'll get into some detail with that. Bring some basketball guys on the show

to talk a little bit about that. But final thoughts for this show before we transitioned into a couple of days where we're going to talk more about these things and more. First of all, that jumper is broken and Jay just

put up there. Secondly, I think I get this theme. Like there's a song back in the Southern Baptist Church and it was an old school like get your house in order, right, And I think that this is the moment where programs are getting their houses in order, and each individual player has to question and self reflect of is my own house in order? And if

it's not. We got everyone hitting the transferportal and we're gonna see a lot of different stuffle pieces, moving pieces, and and I'm looking forward to to breaking that down and making sure that you know, here at Michigan State, we're putting a roster together that's gonna be something that we're gonna be proud of and get on that field. So get your house in order is the theme here the whole month of December. I know we're gonna be talking hoops and

stuff, but I can't wait to talk some hockey. Yeah, a little hockey too. Yeah. The hockey teams. Hockey team's on fire right now. They got a big one coming up at the end of the week. You know, I'm ving back to back against Minnesota, so it's kind of let's evaluate and let's get ready for that team down Rollo at the end of this week Friday, So the month is gonna be packed, baby, great a lot of action, guys, look forward to it. Thanks guys for the show. You know, it's all we gotta go. But we will

be back on Thursday and the at o'clock. Be sure to follow us, subscribe, do all those great things. Until then, have a great night, God bless and go greet Go Wiet