The following is a presentation of Playfly Sports Properties in Michigan State Sports Properties. Well, hello and good evening. It is Thursday, March thirtieth, twenty twenty three. I'm your host, Jason Straehorn, along with my co host Otis Wiley and Jay You toot, you culchrick. This is Sparta. Welcome to today's show and thank you for watching live. If that's what you're doing,
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me and you? We got our Spartan green on in the background. You got that stunning always always be like, man, where you at, he's moisturized, moisturized. You see that. Don't don't say it ain't listening, because you know it is that boy, Chris Colin, Boy, you got that straight out of the drove clean. Look at you. I'm you somewhere downtown, somewhere. I'm at the d a C. The Detroit Athletic Club. You know. Let you we're in here. We're here, We're here.
Love it, man, listen, before you know, we got a nice show here in front of everybody. So like we're gonna get into it. Talking about some of our new recruits in basketball who were at the McDonald's All American Game. Jeremy Fears had four assists in the ball game. Guys, Let's look at some of the highlights here. Hey, what was was I right when I was telling you guys about Jeremy Fears? Was that was that right, because he's the guy. He's a general. No, hey,
from my neighborhood. Neighborhood. You want to claim it like he is, but no, look, this is this is indication of is old recruit like recruited guard like is oh this is he has the DNA and those guards. Man, you can see the floor. I'm excited to get him in there and get some hope. Man. I'm hoping Ty decides to come back, because that's gonna be a good mentor mentee. Cut you off. You see what Trevor just said. It was Ryan, you know because y'all y'all
came. He knew he was coming by, and he's like, yall can't get in the club, like y'all can't troll off the Paisley, you know, the old Prince Paisley. Were looking at that right now for those what's your shoe game? I just want to know how he did the shoe game is cos okay, okay, so you he here white, this is red pants, the red pants, the red voice. Yeah, and then you got to stick it down with us with that leg. You gotta get that
leg up there like spice at him. You know, you know that flexibility you know, and you got to run off with the brown with the with the with the brown shoe your legs right right, the red pants this god blood, We love you, we love it. And then we're from res to Andy that then we're from rest shoot choo boo boom, cleaning in the border health, Yes, talk to him. You know last show, Oh is you surprised? You asked us a question about Bronnie and we didn't see
Bronnie Lebron James Son in this dunk contest. We want to see a little bit of that right now? What we got? What we got here? Guys, man, listen, this guy has Look he's got more pressure or more pressure because it's more social media back then with le Bron. But look at oh man, Look you see sister, His little sister gave him a nine. Do you see, like, oh gosh, look, you know, you know the thing about it is he's not like he's he's only he's six two. He's not that like tall for dunker. So it makes it
look even better than than what the dunk is. And he did something that his dad, his dad, he couldn't do, is perform in a dunk contest. Is that a challenge? To the King. The King never did it. I mean, I guess it's still time. Oh that looks like that looked like that looked like some James d n A right there, man. Look look, everybody's just waiting on what are you gonna do? What do you think you're gonna do? Why is Ronald McDonald? And I haven't
seen Ronald McDonald a long time. Yo. You guys are taking this show to the next level. This show is off the Richters straight. You gotta put this thing back on, get this train back on the track straight. No, there ain't nothing wrong with this man. We're just looking at, you know, the future of the NBA. You know, I know he wants to play with his dad too. That's the plan. There's little brother here's yeah. Do you think like, so, what do you think?
I know? LeVar Ball came out and said he should play in the Australian Basketball League next year instead of going to college. What are you guys thoughts on that? That's what I was talking about. What what do you guys think he is going to do? Like I feel like you said, Duke, you know, when coach k was there, I think he would have automatically went to duke in my opinion, But it would be great if he said, hey, I'm gonna go to Ohio State with my dad. Love
probably would love to go to Ohio State obviously is like honorary alum. Right. I think that's a good spot for him, the way o how State showed up in the late in the tournament, the big right here, go ahead. But you know, I think I think it's really like the way it's paid for him, meaning like he's he's a hard worker. It's not like going to be given to him. But I don't I don't know if he would just say, hey, you know what, I'm gonna do that
G league real quick and and uh and then go. But I don't know what you're think is too too, So my my question to you guys is this. I think overall, he's he's one and done anyways, so he might as well he's making he's making money, he already in NIL, he might as well go somewhere, get the structure of the professional level coach by you know, pro treated practices like a pro. So I don't think college
is the route for him. But my question to you guys is this, like this fast forward, uh, three four, years back before they changed the rule. Do you think he is a lottery pick right now based on skill, not just off his name, but based off his skills and everything. Do you think he's like the Kevin Garnets, the Kobe Bryant that can just jump to the next level and play right away, you know, play you said, play right away, versus Kobe came in and played right away,
Kevin Garnett came in and played right away. When they came in and did more than just play, they excelled. I won't say dominate. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, But that's what I'm saying. Like back in the day, if you were a high school player and you entered the draft, you were a guy that was going to go in and be an automatic impact for your team. Do you think if that rule was still in place,
Bronnie James could be an impact in the NBA right now? You know, I guess the story like fast forward or let's rewind back to remember Anthony Simmons right going to IMG and like it was to me, I thought it was a surprise when he decided he was going to to the league enter his name into the draft after IMG and I feel like Bronnie has that, but I honestly it's it's a tough, tough battle for you to decide, Hey, I want to experience college or my goal is to get to the league.
So to your point, the best part, best traction, the best journey to get there is to go that route is pro like, and I think he's I think from a scale standpoint, he's now proven a lot of doubters wrong that you know, at first they're saying he's not even a G league guy, But I feel like now I think he can contribute to the
way the game is now right and he fits in the game. You you say he fits in the game like with a lot like let me tell you this now he like you're saying, like like Penny Hardaway going like, well, you're talking me like going straight and being a franchise guy, Like, I don't think he's that. So you don't think he's gonna be you don't think he will be a first round pick? Then hold on, see wait, you're saying a lottery versus first round. I do think he's the first
round pick. Do you think? Okay, so that if you if you come from high school like those guys that came from high school were lottery picks. Kobe was a lottery picked. Kevin Garnett was a lottery pick. You know, all those guys. You know, Like I'm just saying, like, so, I don't think his game is ready for the next level right now. I don't think his game is ready to be checked by j Mi gral of men in this game, because when they're checking you down there with
those elbows in the small of your back, that ship hurts. Hey, look true, this is one thing that's for sure right now, going through the growing pains that everyone goes through when they level up, and that's going from high school to college, college, NFL or NBA. There's always an adjustment period that you have to go through. When you live in the same house as the greatest player of all time, arguably the NBA scoring leader of
all time. I think he's going to have the cliff notes, the cheat sheet, the reader's digest version of that development, that progression that you need to go through. So you hear, I've heard Lebron time and time again, and I don't think Lebron's blowing smoke when he says like, look he I mean, he knows his son, and she's going to be honest. He doesn't want to set his son up for failure. And he says, like, these dudes out here in the NBA are trash compared to where he's
at right now. And I'm not saying the elite. You can keep comparing him to the elite of the elite. Now can he play? And you know they're trying to work out a deal where he can play for with his dad, him playing with Lebron with the Lakers, where he would end up. I think he'll be able to contribute, you know, I don't. I don't know if he'd be a superstar, but he can absolutely contribute into NBA level of my opinion. See, I say that's so nepotism there.
You look at that and callous, right MJ's son and Shaki like shack Son. No, because he's he's living. He's getting the blueprint of those greates, those Hall of famers. But at the end of the day, it still comes down to two skills, the will, the desire, all that stuff. I don't think he has it right now. I think he needs to develop. He needs to get bigger, he needs to get stronger. He needn't get faster. He needs three years before he can be a three whoa. Oh man, Hey, you know what if he was not?
Okay, okay, So then let me ask you this. Let me ask you this question. If you watch that kid and his name was Brian, would you say he's ready to play in the NBA right now? Why? You know why? Because I would say, like you know, he doesn't if he was unless he was getting coached up by Lebron every day than in MJ. In my opinion, because MJ with his son, they didn't you you saw MJ. Son. I think he was Illinois. Remember him playing in Illinois. He walked on in Illinois. Not even that. It's not
the same player and Shaquille O'Neil son. I mean, it's just it's not they're they're not the same. Bronni is a little bit better and there is more of a handholding, if you will, from Lebron's standpoint. Now, I don't think that he can come out right now. I mean he can't because the rules say so, and he needs a year, right one year? One year. So hey, we're gonna talk about you son in a minute. Don't worry about that. So what I would say is this then
what what Lebron needs to do is take his son. He needs to go on that uh LeVar ball math. He needs to take his son, take him out of the limelight, take him everything and just train him. Say you're gonna set a year out. You're gonna get the best trainer, the best nutritionist. You're gonna put some weight on, you're gonna get you know, put some athleticism, you work on his guild. Now, having that to that level, he has that level, he needs to go into.
No, he's he's where he can go with the girls distracted him everything like that. He needs to go away. He needs to go away. He needs to go through like a Rocky camp girls. He needs to go to Rocky for listen to yes, Okay, that man has had that type of level of training from jump Dog. Listen, he's not ready. He's had that type and he's not ready right now. He ready, He's not ready.
He will be well, David Jerry, Still, we'll see. You know, lebron spends a million dollars on his body per our crack research team in the back here, just like a Kardashian. So how much does Bronnie get to spend on his body. Can you get answer that one? But probably more times too, Bro like this, Yeah, I mean that man has a ceiling. He has already he had. They'll get that man ready. Yeah. Yeah. So look, talking about NBA talent, Let's talk
about some Michigan State NBA guys. Xavier Tillman and the Memphis Grizzlies has a career high twenty points and nine boards. Guys, imagine Brownie James going against this guy. Not a guard, right, imagine him driving and then he had big tail on the court, rim level guard. Yeah, he's he's athletic. He's athletic. I saw him play a year ago. He's much better, much better absolutely than he was. You you saw that. You saw what a Maury Bailey was doing in U c l A. Was on
the court with why I can't believe how good it is. Yes, at U c l A ball not in the NBA, but you got against Brian. I don't I think he needs to go to college and develop. Yeah, we agree. You know, we're talking about playing in the league, like right away, that's what we're talking about. He can't, he ain't ready, He's not ready. He can get drafted and get that brand and
he'll be ready. He'll be ready AnyWho. Yeah, manrats, But Jared Jackson had a so it was he had nineteen Like they both was like equally balling, right, and uh, you got John Morett back, you see that kind of got the chemistry back. Uh and you saw Memphis was electric. Man watching that game. It was a good one. You know what. The Memphis there shout out to Tillman. You know, that's that's a player. You know, Like I love seeing the maturation process of Xavier Tillman
and now that he gets to live out the fruits of his laurel. You know, came to college and everyone knew the story about him at Michigan State, had the kid, you know, and took the next step to support his family and everything like that. That's so awesome. And then Darreon Jackson in there. But I'm telling you, Memphis Grizzly, that's a team right there as well as I love day Day's Draymond Green. I love Draymond, but uh, that that's gonna be that's building up to be a nice rivalry
between the two of them. Dougie Fresh said that does that jacket come with some hater? Ray I'm just asking Douggie, ask Doug put this on the answer this question right now, so this it will be archives and everything. You think Brownie James is ready for the NBA right now? Yes or no? Today? Hey? You know what, Well, while he answers that question, well, we'll talk about your son. Nathan Carter from Michigan State by way of Yukon by way of Western New York, the home of the
garbage plate dumb. Let's look at a video right now Nathan talking about Michigan, Michigan State man. Just looking forward to seeing on the fans. You know, I think it's like eighty five ninety thousand people and my right numbers,
so I've never seen that many, eighty thousands. So yeah, it's been great just being able to be a part of this culture and you know, be part of the team, you know, and you know the fact that so so a decade and you can come back here in years from now, will still be a Spartan dogs be part of his family, you know, which is a one to the lost opportunity. So it's a blessing to
be here. And I'm just excited for the season, excited to perform for the fans and to help grow this team so we can get our goal conference, which is ultimately to win championship. Yeah you know, I mean you're around here, you know, that's how everyone says it. You know. We never named that team down the road, you know, So it's just the way it is here, you know. And like I said, I have some some absolutely. They they're the ones that when I was at Connecticut
that put me out for the year. So I got a little tip of my shoulder when we played up. So it'd be fun to get a little get back when when that time comes. But obviously you worry I'm from getting the game and we go from there. So m but sure, but you're young man. I would like to get some old footage with jau and how he did his interviews to see I will tell you zero, like zero,
this kid is the next level. This kid is gonna be a kid that I'm telling you guys, you will be coming back to me and be like, Wow, this guy's he's a stud. Like just listen to him. He already has that chip on his shoulder about that school down the road. You know, he has he legit against him because of what like he said in the video there, so it's already there. So you know, I'm excited for this kid. I think this kid is gonna be the guy that's
gonna help expand that offense from Michigan State. He's gonna be the one that's gonna get those tough yards. He's not gonna he's not gonna be a sexy player. So if you're Spartan Nation out there thinking about you know, this guy is gonna be a sexy player, gonna make the splash home run place. He's gonna get those tough yards. He's gonna be that guy that's gonna on third and one, he's gonna get that first down, on you know, second and goal, third and goal, he's going to get that touchdown.
He's gonna be that guy. And at the end of the day, he's gonna have that arsenal in him there. He's gonna run you, over run you, over run you over and then when he breaks loose that one time that safety braceist for run over, he's gonna make a move on him and make Spartan see him go ooh. I'll tell you about it. Is that is that a fact? We're gonna do it. We're gonna see this,
Okay. I mean, look, he's he is immediately stepped on campus and it almost feels like has taken the leadership role, like like, listen, we don't have a vocal leader, and like I see more of Nate Carter speaking to the other you know, we're highlighting him, but he's talking
with like he's been here already for like two years. Right, he's talking like that where I think to that point of his character of uh, you saw he he went to South Africa during the spring break and I'm gonna I'm gonna lum on that trip, right, and so I already know the experience he went through going over there and serving and going into Soweto and walking the streets of Nelson Mandela, I mean Nelson Mandela, and so going through that.
He also his girlfriend got baptized over there. Like it's this dude, is he's the He's the whole guy, right, And I think that's where too, I see where you're saying like this dude, that that transfers over to the field, like he's a guy that's off the field, on the field the same guy. So you know, he's gonna truly truly change the demographic in like the trajectory of our running back round. So otis like you said, that point there, and I'm looking at the big picture that you're
talking about. Character. Character gets you a long ways. His character gets you a long ways on the field with your on field play. You know what you do off the field? That all coming. I don't know our listeners if you don't believe in a higher power or anything like that, but I do and I know like Nate Carter is on the right track to being a successful student athlete at Michigan State. He's on the right path. And like you said, you don't hear many. You had a running back that
was here last year. He's not talking much right now. Ny Carter has stepped in that role of that leader in the running backs room there right now. So I'm all in on Nate Carter. I'm all in. And you call me bias, call me anything like that. I'm all in on Nate Carter. Pete, what does Doug say? What was Doug's answer? He's what's the difference between him and Lamela? Great point, That's a great point. LaMelo was ready for the next More was more, he was more explosive,
more explosive. Yes, but he also went over it. He did the he did the ritt of going overseas, he did the route. He didn't go to college. He didn't go to college. He has all that everything like that. Yes, I don't know. I don't know what we're even arguing about here having a friendly debate, because you keep talking about like ready now, we're saying he'll be ready next year, like the rules allow him to be understand here now. So I but the question that you guys
failed to answer us. I said, if the rules were back like four years ago, when a player could leave, would he be ready to play in the NBA? And you guys said yes, if Aunt Sally had balls, should be Uncle Bill? Yeah, or maybe not. Is this twenty twenty three, so keep it moving with that one. I don't know. Look, Marc Cuise great out of Flint had a state championship. Otis man. Yeah it was. I was trying to get out there, man to go go support, but obviously I was stuck in the house it a little
bit. So you know, it's a story of like coming from Flint, like it was. It was playing hoops and Marcquise was that dude as well, Like you know, we had one of our big big bros in Kelvin Tober But that whole like five year span of that age man, like we have some ballers, and Marquise could have went anywhere in the country and he
went to Michigan State to play for Izzoe. But the the journey of trying to win one in the high school and like Michigan State high school basketball playoffs, like trying to win a state championship and then going to miss Michigan State win in some championships and then also now being coaching at your alma mater that
you you know, taking them to the promised Land. And this is what the look at this story just a few things that came up just telling a story about Markquis gray journey, but also you know, the redemption of getting in there and leading these young men from Flint in the state championship and welcome back. During his playing career, Marquise Gray was seen as the savior of beat Your Basketball. The team hadn't won a state championship since nineteen eighty seven.
The six nine forward carried that weight on his broad shoulders. Who's made it to the state finals in two thousand and three, but fell short. Fast forward twenty years later, and Gray has fulfilled his promise to Bucktown. It don't sink in because in my mind, I'm still young, slim, can still dunk on people quees. But the reality is is that I can't physically impose my will on the game, said Queen, give it no matter how much I want to. I have to teach my players now how to
do that, and that's the hard one. In each of his first two seasons as Beacher's head coach, former spartan Marquis Gray has guided his team to the Breslent for the state tournament. This season, Gray finally got to hold the D three state championship trophy, a moment over thirty years in the making. How many people sacrifice for me to be in this moment, from my two older brothers, Keenan and Gordon Gray, to my mother, Rebecca Gray,
to my wife, to the beat your community. Until one of my assistant coaches, sous, my girl's head coaches, coach Smister Easton, just grateful, man, grateful that you know you put it well, you put it in the work for something and it finally happens, and you know, this big burst up emotional just it just comes out. I gotta give love and a shout out to Mike Williams because even though he's not here, I still talk to him often and he still guides and mentors me, and so
he doesn't have to do that all year long. Raid has been drilled into his team. Be ready for your championship vote. Robert Lee Junior grabbed the bull by the horns against Saint Francis twenty nine points, eleven rebounds and ends his career as a two times stay check. I feel like we couldn't let the game slip out our hands. We have to keep playing hard and eventually, you know, we're just gonna get the outcome that we got. And he's a kid that I would get my right arm for. If my daughter
grows up and dates a guy like Robert Lee, I'll be happy. He's a great kid. He does everything the right way. He doesn't take shortcuts, he never makes excuses for anything. He just keeps his head down and continue to work. Rob wasn't alone. Yeah, so I just wanted to showcase that story. Man. It's a good you know, follow it, you know search it, but you know, one spartan dog. We obviously went to school with Quise when he was here. Just good to see someone
obviously winning lives for these young men. Yeah, ohdis, you're one hundred percent right. I remember being at Michigan State and when Queeze came in and just seeing his highlights, seeing everything like the else, like, Wow, this dude's stud. You know, this dude's absolutely stud And I understand to a degree, you know, the battle and everything like that that happened, you know with him. He didn't win a state title as a player in
high school. When I was in high school, we went to four straight state chainampionships and lost four straight state titles in a row, and we're the Buffalo Bills of high school football in Buffalo, New York. But you know, after that, you know, I had the opportunity to go back and I was a head coach back in my hometown area there, and that was one of the things. It's like chasing that high school state title, you
know, because that's something special that nobody can take away from you. And I was never fortunate enough to get that high school state title like Marquise Gray was able to. And I'm just so happy, so proud of the fact that you know, after what he did in Michigan State, he took his talents back to mentor these young men, you know, and give them something that no one can take away from them. Well said guys, I mean, you know, winning, you know, personal accolades only go so deep
and only so far. But coming back in mentoring those youth like he's doing and being able to take it all the way to the state championship level as a coach will live on for generations to come, with those young men and their families forever. So I mean, yes, I'm not crying. You're crying. That was that was act. You know, that was very ons one of the moments right there. You know, we've got more to talk
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earn free food with every order. Okay, by show up hands. How many people are football fans that are following and watching this show? How many people like the NFL? Yeah, oh yeah, we kind of like it. How many of you can name every head coach of every team currently in the NFL. If we put up a picture, because what we're gonna do right now and see if Jau, who is mister NFLPA, can do exactly
that. So what we're gonna do is pull off the picture, mister NFLPA of the This is the meeting here in the NFL owners meeting that happened on Tuesday, I believe this week a couple of days ago. And we're going to go from left to right there, starting in the back row, and see if Jay you can name that coach? All right, I might. I can skip over in like I'm back right, sure, okay, see what you can tell you? So in the back row, starting left to
right, the dude and the aviators. My guy got his start at Michigan State as a GA was my He was a coach on the coaching staff when I was with the Jets, and he has a way to my heart because at the owner's meeting. There was some thing that came out. I said he was the first coach at eleven thirty am to crack open a beer. Brian Daball of what team? The New York Giants Football Giants. So that's number two there, the guy, the tall guy with the all the hair,
number two. Let's go. Let's let's go down. Let's go down, sitting sitting down. We're gonna start with the Buffalo Bills coach Sean McDermott. Okay, all right, and then let's skip the next guy. Let's go to the Green Bay Packers coach name Matt There we go, and then let's go to mister too cool for school Sean McVay. Welcome back to the league, Sean Payton. And then in there everyone's favorite I just lost his
name of coach of the Commanders around Rivera. All right, uh, and everyone loves Big Red like he's taking the bowl game pictures, those you know, those bowl game pictures. So all right, he's got. We got Bill Belichick, we got hardball, we got Pete Carroll, we got let's skip the dude with the blazer I know him. Let's go to the Dolphins coach yeah, an next to Pete Carroll. Oh yeah, yeah, my right, you know, I'm sorry, that's my bad. H We have
the Dolphins head coach. I just you. You've made me lose him, lose his name. All right, Let's let's skip and let's go to McDaniel, McDaniel, Mike McDaniel, let's go to Let's go to Mike McCarthy. Let's go to Jamico Ryans. Let's go to Frank Wright up top. Hey, we got some coaches here. Boy. Let's let's skip over three. Let's go to Michigan State's Robert Salah, who was a g A there when I was at Michigan State. Let's skip over old boy here, Let's go
to Detroit's skiff over, old boy. Just going to Detroit, Dan Campbell Motor City Dan? Uh? Damn? Who's that brother? Then Mike Tomlin lefty skip the brother? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the decordinator, the decordinator, the decordinator who has no facial expressions. He used to coach the Jets. Damn. How does name slipped my mind? TB Yeah, Todd Bold uh huh. And then let's go to Mike Tomlin. Uh, Mike Tomlin's fro just disappeared that quick man. Like that boy got hair.
He's not like you otis he can grow hair, all right, So let's go to uh old boy. Then let's go to Arthur Smith next to Mike Tomlin. Let's go to Kyle Shannonhan I said, Mike Matt Lafleury. Hey, that's pretty good man, he's left there. You got. Yeah, that's good. That's good. That's really good. That's very good. Cleveland Brown. Yeah, yeah, yeah, brother there is Who is that brother that skipped? Yeah? You said, So let's look who's the who's the
favorite coach of the pose of all the coaches? Like who has the best posture? And look right now swag all that. I would say it's either it's Sean McDermott far left there because he's like I don't give a yeah, he's there, like he's there to kick it. And Brian Dabolls waiting to crack open that next beer and Andy read it's not it. He likes to draw mustaches on his teammates, you know, his players faces when they're sleeping,
according to the commercials. But Frank writes some credit though, like there's a lot of people that's trying to go to Tampa to Carolina right now. Oh man, Yeah, they're loading up over there. Hey, hey, hats off to you too. That was good. Put you on the spot. You came out with flying colors. Man, I wonder how our listeners fared. Honestly, and I know Dougie is going to say, I did it all six old boy, That old boy. Who's that brother? Hilarious
to choose one of the ki guys. We want to bring up an article that came out recently Mike Gandhi. If you guys don't know who Mike Gundhy is, the legendary mullet baby, the legendary mullet you know here he He's His thought is, oh, it is that in order to curb the transfer portal and all that and settle it down, that players need to be able to sign contracts for their scholarship. So a one year deal, a two year deal, or a four year deal. What do you guys think about
this option? Because he thinks that's going to cut down on the ability for guys to move in and out, uh and leave, you know, the school that they're currently in. I say, and by the way, Mike Gundy's Elijah Collins new coach now Frost Spartan. I say this, Yeah, if you want lockdown players too, deals coaches, you stay. You can't leave. If you get a better offer somewhere, you gotta stay. Mmm. It's it's you can't lock down a player and then you pick up and
leave for a better offer. What what sense does that make? Oh, so you're locking the coach down too. You have to if you want to lock down the players, you got to be locked down as well. If you leave, you got to pay a fine, and the other school that hires you can't pay your fine as your buyout clause. You have to take it like it's getting like to that point, like it's to that point where businesses it needs to be a business decision exactly, transition. It's this is
a the way West. You keep hearing wa wa West is going to get even worse. But if it's like if we got to make make sure, you know, remember what they used to come around and make a sign that little paper sometimes you know you serve practice hours, but like you know, I think year to year until I don't know how many years ago, where you know, the Big ten worked on getting that four year guarantee and your
scholarship. Where it wasn't the sending guys like behind and transferring there. There was there was no issues where you had to be academically eligible to then transfer like or you have to sit out right. So now it's like, hey, I'm in the transfer portal and you're able to go any times so and able to control the numbers. It's really the numbers game. It's leaving these coaches out to drive, where guys are just picking up and leaving after that
one year, not serving the purpose of at least going one year. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, I get what you're saying. Otis you know, like you say, leaving the coaches out to drive, but a lot of the time is before even the transfer portal and stuff, that these coaches were leaving these players out to dry because when we were there before a coach you pick up and leave and if we transferred, we had to sit out of you know, now it's it's you know, it's not that these
coaches need some type of repercussions as well. Guys, what about the elephant in the room here, because you know, we're talking about players deciding to leave and coaches deciding to leave. The reality of today's college football or basketball in some cases is that coaches are telling guys to get in the portal and get out of here. That's the reality. So in this article, when you read this article that you like, we will put it up on our on our socials so you can see it. He talks about it. Now.
Yeah, you know, if a player says, hey, I can't play here, well I'm not I'm good enough to sign another's And later in the articles not to part, he says, I'm not coach, I'm not good enough to play here. I want to go to this school. I sign off and let him go or whatever reason. But that's the only way they're going to be able to manage numbers. In my opinion, Well that right there, Like if you really get into the nitty gritty of that one,
that statement. A lot of players are being in what we would call in the NFL cut released from their scholarship. So I think that you know, this is progress, and it is movement in the right direction, but it doesn't solve everything unless they somehow mitigate that because some players are being asked to lead and then they have nowhere to go afterwards. Yeah, I think
before. You know, back when we played, there was those exit interviews at the end of the season where you go and you resign your scholarship, you know, and sometimes you you'll have a locker bate that doesn't come back,
doesn't guess it sound scholarship resigned. So I just think there's so much coaches are now getting fearful of their jobs because the players now are starting to have control of their destiny and their decisions and everything like that, because the players are now being like, you know what, this isn't for me, I'm gonna leave, and these coaches are like, well, I brought this guy here because I thought I was gonna win when he was a four or
five star guy. And the alumnis are going to love me for signing this guy because he's a four or five star guy, and it's not going to be anything on me. At the end of the day, It's going to be in the kid. The kid was a bust. But at the end of the day, it was not the kid was a bust. The kid was not in the right position to be successful in your program. So instead of the coach saying this, you know, it was on me that this guy wasn't for me. He's going to put it on the kid for transferring,
And that's what the coaches are starting to do right now. Shameful, you know, you know, I don't know what the answer is here, guys, But if you don't know who my Gundy is, maybe you can remember this particular quote when he talked about he's a man, he's forty. Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man, I'm forty, I'm not a kid. Write something about me? Or are coaches right about a kid that does everything right? That's heart's broken?
And then say that the coaches said he was scared. That ain't true. And then to say that we made that decision because Donovan was because he threatened to transfer. That's not true. So get your facts straight. And I hope someday you have a child and somebody beat downgrades them and belittles them, and you have to look him in the eye and say, you know what, it's okay. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me?
That's all I got to say. It makes me wanting I don't know if you guys remember this. I do remember it. Yeah, even that was hilarious of my gun. Even you brought up a point their iconic presser. You brought up a point there too when you said we had players that had, you know, you had to sign a scholarship to move on and sometimes you're, you know, a guy in your locker your role might not
come back in your era, what would guys be doing. Would they be asked to leave or would they just take the medical because in my era, that's what it was. Guys didn't quite hack it. They got a medical so they still were able to finish their classes on campus. But now you got they had to go the I remember specifically, you know, coach Smith calling people in this locker room saying, I'll do the odors now Michigan State isn't for you. Yeah, and you know, guys are gone, you
know, like and that was the harsh reality that people didn't realize. People at that time thought when they were when they committed to go to play at a Division one college, they were there for four years. You know, at that time, it was a year, two year contract. It was a year two year scholarship. If you didn't perform or you you weren't showing any level of potential, Like you know, you could fit into this system. You can fit into their scheme. You're going to get bigger, strong,
and faster. They just simply said, hey, you know you'll be better served somewhere else, and you know, if you need help finding a new home, will write you a letter of recommendation kind of stuff. Who do you remember that all man? That's r It is rough man, it's rough. I feel like there's no there's no room for error, Like you cannot be like you have to follow the rules. You need to go to class. You need to be academically like sound because like drop off, get
shipped off quick. If you want to like right back, then you able like I'm gonna groom him. I'm a mint to him, get him right, Like no, we ain't got time for you to get right, like you know, like you got to be here and be right on it. Be about your business because like anything that's gonna be in a disadvantage is not
doing the right things. And I think that's where like we're getting guys in here that's ready and they're professionally ready, like we weren't when I was out in la we went to dinner with you, me and afloat with Stephen Reeves. Stephen Reeves, great player at Michigan State. You know, he came in from a great lineage. You know, his dad played at Florida, his brother is a coach, everything like that, highly touted quarterback. He didn't cut the mold, he didn't fit the system. He was asked to
leave. He was asked to transfer out of there, out of Michigan State, and he ended up going to Old Miss and having success there. But you know, that's that's just how it goes, you know, coaches. You know, I don't think that a lot of people know that, like because it was there was a moment, there was a time when it trans transcended. So because when I was talking about Perlis and saving you know,
the late mid nineties, late nineties, it wasn't the deal. And then somewhere in the early two thousands, mid two thousands, it started to becoming
like, hey, you got you gotta go. And I remember when urban Meyer came into the Big Ten, they were bringing this quote unquote sec mentality in that every year of your scholarship was not guaranteed and It really changed the landscape of the game because I think what was happening before Big ten if I'm not if I'm not mistaken, if you could prove that there was a medical issue, then that scholarship that you were still paying for didn't count against your
roster. But now it does. They don't really care. You know what the exemption with the situation isn't get eighty five, don't really care. I mean, it's all about the money, right apparently, So what's this? If you're hit? What's this? Okay? If you watch get that like button, you gotta call wow, Dougie, you might have got a spartan side. They inspired me and uh, I'm terrible at We got to get John L on the show. We are What do the people think about that?
What bringing John L? We got to bring John L on the show? Bringing bringing them on? Like do people want to hear that? You know, because there's a lot of things people like here, you know, and we're going to talk about what people have really you know, reacted positively to and we're gonna you know, provide them with those people. So maybe
John L is one of those future guests that we can have. I know one thing that everybody reacted positive to, positively to, and that was the bill to approve olcohol sales in the stadium and that just got introduced in the legislature in the state of Michigan. Look at this, guys, mm hmmmm, otis talk to us, talk to them nice huh. This is one great news. Two, it's an opportunity to now truly, you know, bring that revenue to be real, I'm trying to be like real professional about
it. No, it's like revenue and and it's also very I mean, statistics show that it does control the binging, like the binge drinking on campus. And so I think it's it's gonna be a good, you know, step by step process because there's still some work to do. But you know, just reading that, I mean, everyone's been asking about it, right,
everybody's been asking about it. They go elsewhere to other venues. I think that's when you start going to visiting other campuses, when you're going to see the Spartans play, and other venues are doing it and they see success in it. Everyone's asking, man, that will change the environment of the fan engagement of adding that to the elements of our sport events. Yeah, and just so everyone remembers, everyone understands that this is Sparta. MSU podcast
broke the potential news here first. So when you're going around telling your friends and everything like that, remember where you heard the hints about it first. But to Otis's point, you know, I think it's a very good thing. It controls you know, a senior in college, you know someone in college. You don't have to sit in the parking lot of Spartan State and chugg a pint chug of fifth just so you can come into the game. You're basically telling your routine. No, I don't want tell me in a
few times that's what Spartans have been required to do. But that's what kids do, you know. But like we go to different sides, and especially this year, going sideline, you're sitting at Maryland. You see a guy and you know his kid, and he's drinking a beer, minding his business. You know, it's not harming anybody. It's it's a good culture and everything like that. So I think this is something good for Michigan State, and I think it's going to reduce a lot of problems and also it's going
to drive revenue. You know, at the end of the day. We all it's it's a what if you've done for me lately? Business and we have to bring revenue and we have to uh bring sponsorship in. We have to you know, keep up with the joneses if we want to continue to do that. These are these are the steps that's necessary. Don't act like you've never chugged a fifth before, you guys acting like I'm the crazy one
for relat Yeah. Look, they're saying that it will be limited to one hour before the game and a half hour after the game, which if that passes it because we have they have a lot of support in this particular bill that's being introduced from the bar owners, which kind of blocked at the last time. The bar owners are in agreement that it's not going to be you know, there's a certain amount of days allotted for each sport or each season, and what is one hour before the game and a half hour after.
Because there's been stadiums that I've been to, we've all been to where somewhere around the fourth quarter, like midway through the fourth quarter, they stop. That's how NFL stadiums are like that too. M yeah, I mean, so this one would be actual a little bit, you know, a little bit nicer, you know, but the bars are on board the governor. Governor Whimer said that, you know, being for a night game, it
makes her a little nervous. She said that normally, and she's a spark, right that this would she would think of this as a great thing. But her prosecutors, she's looking through her prosecutor's eyes. This makes her a little nervous. But if the bill comes to her desk and I quote, she'll sign it. So wow, wow, ye that night game. You don't got to go so hard in the parking lot, you know, you can still get it in there. Yeah, yeah, you got time.
You definitely have time. So that's something we can look forward to. And then we'll make everybody including notice and shoot you in straight. Happy guys talking about the spring game responsibly. Yes, you must drink responsibly and don't get behind that damn will please disclaim no, please drink responsibly. We gotta hey, look, we got an event coming up for the spring game, right, guys, put it up. We got we'll we got artin Saturday.
Saturday is good good time to be on campus because there's a lot going on. And so if you want to support your equal support. Just as much as you go hard for football, you go hard for basketball, go hard for the softball uh team and the baseball team. And uh we got some rowing. I mean we got a new facility in rowing too, which is
beautiful by the way, but great Saturday. Obviously, you haven't forget the five K. Don't forget the five k. They will be leading the stretches spanx, y'all in that golf cart n stray will be leading you to straight straight. I think I think you need to take the position of Johnny Spirit. Did you imagine state like? Yeah, So Saturday, obviously you got the spring game April fifteenth, doors open twelve thirty and we'll start around two
o clock for the football it begins. But bring your kids. You got some junior Spartan picnics, you got some on field exclusive access for fans to take some pictures on the field. It's a great day to bring your family and have a good day of supporting all the sports. And they look at Spartans at home. We got the schedule in the time, so look out from our socials you'll be able to see to keep updated. But if you're on campus, please share the love and go support and at that Spring game.
You know, from the recruiting side of things, We're going to have a special guest at the spring game this year, guys. And you know it's gonna be David Stone from IMG Academy. He gonna be in attendance, man. I mean, he loves it up here. We got a Spartan he loves it here here. We need some good weather. Come on, yeh, can we get one of those c I A planes to drop something
to change the weather around here for the positive? I mean conspiracy theories going on New York when it was like, you know below, you know, freezing, and then it was seventy on game day. Come on, guys, we need we need, we need one of them. Are you Spartan fans out there this weekend? I don't know why I said Spartan fans, but big weekend in the call Creak House, all right. Saturday WrestleMania Day one in l A Sofi Stadium. Sunday WrestleMania Day two. Roman Reigns versus
Cody Roads. Cody Rhodes comes home and try to take back what his dad couldn't do, win that Universal Heavyweight Championship title on Peacock. I mean, do we have wrestling fans? That's what I want to know, Like, you know, can some I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this, and I'm sure Mama stre is listening somewhere. If you're a wrestling fan and you follow this at Sparta, we have to think of something. We have to think of something. I am will I'm gonna give away because WWE SummerSlam
is coming to Detroit, Michigan. I'm gonna give away stray. You're gonna come back. Oh, you're gonna come back. You can go to Summer Slam with the This is Sparta crew on us. I get us tickets. We will be there. If we got to figure out a way to make this work. So Alicia, get on it, figure out how we can do this. We're gonna give away tickets to w W SummerSlam if we got this is Sparta August fifth at Ford Field in Detroit. Oh, this is
gonna be epic. It's gonna be like you know, nineteen ninety the whatever was that the soup checks out sounds like you're wrestling? You do are? I know? I know I didn't tell you guys about this. I just threw this out. Are you guys in if we do yes, Summer Slam the tradition, we'll take people from this is Sparta to the event leaving it looked even our crack research team in the back. Tony g is in.
Everybody's in, Hey, look to that point. At the spring game April fifteenth, we will have a special live show guys after the game on Saturday at the Fieldhouse, East Lancy. That's where we're going to be. It's going to be a very live event. You're gonna have Chew Choo there. He may wear the Paisley coat. He may I might have a different outfit. I'll be there. I might have game hold. Us will be there. Yes, these guys will be there, and we're gonna have some special
players too. We're going to talk about that in the next coming days. But yeah, I mean, it won't be televised live, so it'll be an opportunity to hang with us replay and hear us break everything down live. Ain't wait to have a couple of soda pops some great food with everybody here. It's going to be for subscribers only, so if you've got to be able to show that you have subscribed to. This is part of ms U on your you on the YouTube and you get in and there may be a
couple of charts. I'm not sure, but that goes all to the players that will be there. If you bring if you bring a if you bring a friend, they ain't got to subscribe to. You can't just subscribe and bring up. They ain't got it be subscribed as well, because it doesn't cost you anything to subscribe. So go ahead, hit that like button, hit that subscribe button. Tell your friends, as otis wool like to say, tell your mama and them to do that. Tell mama and them,
tell everybody them to come to the Fieldhouse East Lands. It's gonna be fied, that's right for sure. Bringing the bus to oh mama, Dean said, they bringing the bus now hopefully train and I can't get to get on the bus. I know, otis is you know, Hey, look I rode the bus. We rode the bus in Chicago. That bus was hey, that was It was the best experience I ever had in my life. I'm gonna tell you that being on one of those Dean bus that was that was our standing. I loved it. Thank you bus. No, he
ain't. I know more small. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait either, because now we got we got so many. The first time I ever signed, the first time I signed Harriet's bus was the spring game freshman year. You know, as a player, as a player, you know you've made it when you're asked to sign the bus. Yeah, and that's and that's what Harriet says, signs. I don't think so, man. I mean, I'm old, I'm older than you, guys. I gotta we gotta make that happen. Sign Bubble Webster signed the bus
and you didn't. Bubb Oh Webster. We we got a problem again. You don't know your part in history. That's crazy. Listen, look, you know not that bus. Okay, not that much. But yes, stay tuned for for announcement regarding the players that will be in attendance. It's gonna be some our key players there. You're gonna love it. They're gonna love it. It's gonna be fun. So we're gonna and we don't have to worry about the weather. If the weather is bad, we're good.
If it's good, we even better. So it doesn't matter, you know, and because we listen to you and the reaction that you gave us for when Corey was on the show Corey Robinson from two four to seven Sports just a couple of days ago. Darrien Harris will be on our show next week. Harris, Yeah, Tuesday forth. We'll get it look like new money, don't they. And he's got stuff to talk about a lot and we're gonna talk. Please d m us with any questions that you may have for
Darien prior to the actual you know, the actual show. But I know how our loyal listeners here will be uh, you know, putting those questions up as we are talking. So and we'll try to pivot as best we can. Guys, I mean, I think this is a great show. I think everything that we talked about, I mean we covered a lot of things. The best part of it, no doubt, Shay You's jacket. We love the jacket. Everybody loves the jacket. Otis for you, For you and for me, this is Sparta. Have a good night, God
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