Be following is a presentation of play fly Sports properties. My guys, they're trying to turn the goal line. What the hands pass shafto? Up here comes the button? Now the sideline shown that that is not obviously you know, Michigan State has their work cut out for them trying to stop a dynamic quarterback in c. J. Stroud. But fellas, speaking of dynamic quarterbacks, we got one on the show today. We don't bring on Drew Stanton,
Michigan State legend quarterback. How many years in the league? I mean, man, I mean you're up there with Brady in then right about twelve, I mean there he is right there, the man met the legend, Drew Stanton. Welcome to the show, but welcome to disaspartment. Thanks man, thanks for having me on. Guys, It's good to see your guys's face. It's been way too long, too long. Right, last time I saw you was at the last year's Michigan game and you had to bounce
early. Yeah, listen, I listened to the victory on the way home. You know, I'm going to prioritize them by my days of gallivanting around east Lands and are over with. So how's things been going, Drew, like, you know, you're a retired football player. Now you're hanging out with the kids going to games. Yeah, you know, Arizona, I made this home and I'm doing some radio stuff for the Cardinals, which has been fun to kind of stay involved with the organization, be able to stay
involved with the NFL. So it's it's been fun. It's it's super low key. It's something I really enjoyed that. I also started a podcast with a former teamate of mine called The Bobbled Exchange with a Q. Shipley who played at Penn State and then it was a teammate of mine out here. So now we were just having some fun with it and seeing where it takes
us. Yeah, Drew, I know, you know, you and I have been chatting up as you're making your way back to to East Lansing with the family this for this weekend's game, and you know tell us about obviously coming back home you were here obviously last last year, but you know you get to come to East Lance and get back to home, you know, talk about you know, the nostalgia and having you know, your family coming back to see the green and white way used to wear it. Yeah,
no, this is a much different trip. So last year it just popped up out of nowhere. I gotta paid experience. I gotta paid appearance to come back so real quick, like the week of because I believe it was a MasterCard with the big new kickoff. So that kind of was like, can you make it the East Lanson. I was like, for that, I can make it to East Lanson. So I was in and out. This one is a little bit different because we're bringing the family back. We
knew it in advance. Our kids are off school Friday and Monday, and so my wife and I wanted to have the opportunity to bring them back. My sister in law still lives in the area, so being able to see cousins, be able to do all that experience fall because it's still ninety de Greece here in Arizona. So that it'll be special to be back in Spartan Stadium because as you guys all know that, I'll forever hold a special place
in all of our hearts. Yeah, definitely, Drew. And let's go back to your time at Michigan State, and you know you were a big like personality within the locker room with your teammates guys were attracted to your leadership, your work ethic and everything. You know, you were a quarterback, your for you, you wanted to be on the field. You played special
teams as a quarterback. You know, not many people did that, and you know, so you were the heart and soul and people followed you, you know, and your work ethic, your you know, your attitude for Michigan State. And we might not have had the wins that we wanted to have. But what does you know being a spartan dog mean to you? Well, I think it's just grit, right. It's the ability to push
past what's uh comfortable and live in the uncomfortable. Right. It's a it's a mentality of saying, you know, whatever it takes to be able to get the job done, I'm going to do it, and I'm going to do it with the people next to me because I got to rely on them and they're going to be able to rely on me. Comes thickers in and uh, you know that's something that that was way that I was raised,
right, that was ingrained and who I was. So when I showed up to Michigan State and things weren't going the way that I would have hoped. You know, I had to wait in line for Damon dot L and Stephen Reeves to be able to get a shop to play quarterback. I just knew
when my time came, I wanted to make the most of it. And you know, being able to be around some great men when I was there, especially, and Manny is the one that probably poured into me more than anybody of like, hey, when your opportunity comes, you never give it up. And I was like, you know what, I got to be prepared for the future, because when the future comes, you better be ready to live in it. And that was some of the best advice that I
got when I was a young man growing up in my time there. You know, you're talking about that, and you talked about grit and then being able to bid for time to wait for your turn. So many guys go into the NFL as quarterbacks and they get the sit into the role of backup and then they just can't take it for whatever reason. They want to be a starter, and they end up washing themselves out in the league earlier because they're not willing to do what it takes in order to be ready for that
chance. Whenever the say the said starter goes down. You were able to do that and transition into that very well, what is the difference, what's making what makes that an easier transition for some than others. Well, I think it's a learned trade, right. You have to be able to identify what that is. Because when you're the starter in college, you get every rep, you have the luxury of being able to see it and digest it
and do that. When you get to the NFL, there's such limited amount of reps, as you guys know, so when you get to practice, it's so much more mental and you find ways to engage and stay relevant with what's going on. I mean, I remember, you know, one of my best friends, I always became the offensive line coach because I wanted to know what was going on. I wanted to be able to understand that because blitz protection, all of those things are so vital to be able to survive
in the NFL. So it all starts and stops with that. And so once I got a good handle on that and got into a routine, it was really when I was in Detroit the first couple of years, I was just flying by the seat of my pants and I was thrown out there and didn't have much success and almost find myself out of the NFL before I even
got a chance to establish myself. And so Sean Hill came to Detroit, UH showed me, Okay, this is what a Monday looks like, this is what a Tuesday looks like, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. And so you prepare and you prepare for this test you may never take.
And I didn't take it for four years in the NFL. But when my opportunity came, much like I said at Michigan State, I was going to everything in my power to make sure that I was going to show, hey, this guy belongs here, and not only is he great in the locker room, not only does he do all these other things, he can help us go win football games, because ultimately that's how you are measured in the NFL. Absolutely, I mean, dude, I mean my recruiting trip.
You know I was introduced to you, right, I'm not going to throw our skeletons out there, but you know, when I saw you playing, you know, I learned quickly of like, do whatever it takes, do whatever it takes. And so when I'm on the defensive side, I knew that we got a three and out, that Drew was going to go out there and do all that he could to get that first down to keep the change moving. You know, you've been watching him from afar right. What's
happening right now with our quarterback? You know, Peyton Thorn had a hell of a year last year coming into this year. You know, a lot of a lot of eyes on them, a lot of things happening, and then it's not going as planned. But kind of take us through a quarterback's mind of what he may be dealing with, but also hearing the noise about, you know, the guy that's behind him that they want to give a
chance to talk to us about that. Yeah, I mean, everybody loves the backup when the start of struggling, right, I mean, that's not what I was there, right. I didn't have a great senior year. I was dealing with some injuries and dealing with some other stuff and just didn't play up to the level of an expectation that we wanted to. Even though we're got points on the board and trying to be successful, we just weren't
winning football games. And so it's hard because when you are a leader and you try and just steady the ship and stay the course, your confidence starts to get a little flustered. And you can see that with Peyton. You can see the way that he operated last year and how as Jay you talked about, right, when you're a quarterback, one of the most important things
is when you step in that huddle. Is the ten other guys believe that you're going to go down and get a touchdown, that you're going to be able to lead this team that no lead is insurmountable to come back from, right. And I think right now, what you're seeing is a guy that's starting to question himself. Honestly. I mean, if we're being completely candid, is he's like, I know I can do it. I just have to go out and do it. And it's almost like you're forcing it,
where last year he just let things come to him. He looked like the guy that was going to be able to go on to the NFL and do all of these things. And the level of expectation then the bar set's that much higher, right, Like you've got to be able to answer that bell. And unfortunately he hasn't done it yet for many reasons. You know,
the quarterback's best friend's run game. And when you don't have a run game, when you don't have Kenneth Walker. I mean, you said I was at that Michigan game, right, I saw what Kenneth Walker's to that defense, right, and so respectfully, so he goes in the second round. This is still early in the season. They're still trying to figure themselves out and their identity and all these things. You feel bad for it because of what he's going through and all of that. At the same time, this
is a results based business. I don't know him personally, but there's a whole lot of money with nil and blah blah blah and all this other I mean, all of the pressures that exist now versus I was there. I was just trying to, you know, get an education, have fun, you know, do everything I could to put myself in a position to go to the NFL. Realizing there's only ninety six jobs that existed in that workplace. Now all these kids are jumping ship and transferring and doing all these other
things. When adversity like strikes at all, the first chance they get, they're going. So you know, I'm rooting for BT and I still think that he has everything capable to lead this team. It's just you see that
confidence start to teeter a little bit. I mean you see it in too, right, Like guys to your point when like they got to the point where guys would go out there if you're not successful as a backup, your confidence gone, they move on. And being around some of the most confident best players in the NFL around Larry Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson and Reggie Way and Andrew Matthew Stafford, Carson Palmer, you even saw with them at times, right, And so there is some of that that goes into all of it.
And I kind of coined this phrase myself. The confidence is the most important thing to have when you step foot on that field, but it's the easiest thing to lose and the hardest thing to get back. And I dealt with that. I lived that right, and so I'm sure you guys can all attest to that in time in your career. It is how you deal with that adversity and say, Okay, like enough's enough. You've got to find your own way to be able to combat that and go out there.
And it's just tough when all the eyes are on you. True you know, go ahead, Jay now now you you sound like you had a good question. I was just gonna just you know, let's get into the fun stuff there before the fund the party. Now I'm gonna take you back. Do you know happen to know Frank Reich at all? Yeah? Yes, I do. You do? So do you and him ever talk about the record he had that you now have? We have not talked about that. Well, he also was the NFL record he does for the comeback. Yeah,
so this is which is incredible. I'm talking about. It was two thousand and six in Northwestern. Yeah, yeah, on the road. What was it? Thirty five to three? Northwestern by that much? As well, Drew before you ask confidence talk about getting those other ten guys to believe that you can do this. I mean, I remember Stotland giving this great halftime speech. I was a sideline reporter at that time. Stoutlan you know,
oh yeah Philadelphia. Now he's a legendary old line coach, and I'm just like, man, I mean, he made me believe that the team could come back. But I'm like, but coach, you're not playing quarterback and or blocking anybody out there, by the way, and you were able to do that in that moment like that was an incredible comeback. Obviously something that you know, it's in the NCAA record books. Now, did that had like talk about that moment and did that kept catapulture of confidence as you're
talking about right now? No, listen, wait wait, Drew, wait, wait before talk about the halftime speech. Do you remember there's no let us know about that. I remember it because I was like, one, yeah, the halftime speech that you gave through Yeah that Drew gave. Yeah, Look that's a long time ago. Yeah, I'm on defense, and clearly it's my fault. Right we got getting scored on right, Uh Drew.
Drew goes in there and says we're not getting on that bus or that plane and going back to East Lanson and if we if we lose the game, and I looked at everybody else. I was like, man, I don't know what the hell Drew talking about? Right now? Do what's going on? Drew was Drew was famous for pre game It was like what I So, I'll let you answer the question. But I got a great pregame speech that Drew gave before we played Michigan in the Big House. The blu
box. That didn't work either. Guys, do you remember this speech that they're talking about in Northwestern? Do you remember that? Man, I don't know. I think I just finally got to the point where like, man, well this is Northwestern. What are we doing right now? I'm looking at it, and I'm like, we're getting absolutely annihilated. Nobody wanted to play like it was just a sleepy environment. And so to that point, right, I think I was just so mad that I was like, I'm
not going out like this. This is not how the rest of the course of this season is going to go. Uh. And so I remember I came out a halftime and I'm like, this is about to change. First pass pick. So then I was like, Okay, that didn't work Plan B. So you you rewind it back and it's like, we're down by thirty five points. We need to do everything we can to try and win
a football game one play at a time. And as cliche is that sound, that's what it took because then all of a sudden we started getting them on their heels a little bit. Right, We go no huddle and we are just going up and down the field and we start scoring points. Then all of a sudden, you know they're going into score and Caleb Thornhill gets an interception in the red zone, huge turnover. Okay, also were going down. Then we get a block punt? Was it Ashton Henderson for Tivin
Thomas blocked? So all of a sudden it started seeing and you see this doubt creep in, and then they've got this patch on the side. For whatever reason, I got shelved in there. Yeah, I didn't know what happened to me. My shoulder felt like it came out and I was like, right my feet, I was like, whoa, I didn't even stop you. Yeah, I had jump. This isn't happening. This is not happening. So we came back and again that's also the beauty of playing in
this position, but also what comes with the territory. When things go right, everybody remembers me as the one that won the game. I didn't do nearly as much as everybody else did. And when things go bad, everybody looks at quarterback there too, So it's like you've got to be able to
shoulder all of that blame. John Lewandowski did a great job of helping me portray the media and sometimes I know those people, you got to throw your offens alignment under the bus you're doing anything like this, you know, like we go down to the horseshoe and we are putting it on them, right, we are absolutely putting it on them. And then I remember, you
know, I think I got sacked twelve times that game. I mean, I guess all guys that played in the NFL, I rushed for over one hundred yards, but with college stats, I ended up with like negative. But by the time include and I've never been more sore, and all the offensive linemen sat in first class and Peter Clifford came up to be they take my like I played awful today, horrible, and I was like out of
here. I was like, did you try your best? That was all I used to tell guys, Like all I want is just you give me everything you got. I'm gonna give it the same way back to you and we'll see what happens. And that's what happened in that game is everybody just bought in for that second half and it just became a special time in Evanston.
That still stands as the largest record. That's just crazy. And you know, like like Drew talked about, you know, a quarterback's best friends to run game, but a running back's best friend is the quarterback next to him. There are times where you're running back and you're in the backfield and protection, you could lose it a little bit. Where's the mic? Where's
d Drew? Who do I got? Who do I? So not only does he not only does he have to know, he have to you know, identify the front, plunk out the mic, assess the top, you know, look at everything. He's in the back. You're telling them running hey, hey, hey, what rue do I got? What? Right? Do I got an arrow route? Okaytch not coming, don't work, Get out in your rope, go go go. So my first start was against Norre Dame and we practice all week long. Zebra thirty two, the
first placer scripted the first eight Zebra thirty two. We get on the field at nor Dame. We huddle on the sideline before and I'm too cool for school. First start. I'm looking all over the place because we were on
the right hashle. It was flipped. It was Zebra thirty three. We get in there, green eighteen green, since that hit boom, I go right, Drew turns left for thirty and I see his eyes get this big right then and there he gets sacked for twelve yards, and it's like like everything as a running back now, Like the thing everybody knows is you don't hit the quarterback as a defensive player in practice, and you don't give up
a sack as a running back or alignment. So everything drains out of my body and we bang a time out so I can get yelled at the first play of the game. But you know, Captain Charisma Drew got us back, stared us right, and we ended up winning that game in overtime, the flag plant game. So but you know, just great times, great great times. The really cool thing drew your NFL career. You know, you play for different people, and this is the thing that people to understand.
It's that relationship that you build in the NFL with coaches, with former players and everything that can propel you to whatever you do next. So you had retired, right, and and then it was like week what thirteen or so the Bucks pull you in and so this was Christmas Eve morning. This was like week sixteen of seventeen. Like you're out the entire like sea given a no thought like, yeah, So I get a call from BA and he was like hey, true. He's like, uh, what's up kid?
He never calls me. Usually he'll send me like a like some like emoji cocktail or something like you know, like like that. So I missed the call from him, and I knew that Josh Rosen had signed with San Francisco off their practice squad. So we're sitting there, He's like, hey, how about you want to come down here and like help us on a Super Bowl? And I was like, oh. I was like, I haven't thrown a football. I haven't thought about throwing a football. I haven't
put a helmet on, put cleats on, nothing. He's like, who cares, Just come on down. My wife and my kids are good with it. But I was like, they're playing so good right now, right like, they are playing so good. And he was like, just you know, take Christmas, stay at home with the family, and then come down here and help us try and win. I was like that sounds like a heck of a gig. I mean, go down, but all of it. So in my mind, worst case scenario, two weeks down there,
get a little extra practice squad money, and then six weeks. I went a Super Bowl and got a ring which is sitting right over there. Put the ring on the camera. And the cool thing about that story is the guy that you mentored at Michigan State. Oh that's nice, that's a chip m M. Yeah listening. So the cool thing is a guy at Michigan State that you mentored, John Van Dam as a quarterback there. He's
on the coaching staff in Tampa. How was that reunion. I don't know if I mentored him or harassed him, you know, but it was really cool moment for me to be able to see him. You guys know him and just I mean, he literally bleeds green and gave everything to that university and wanted and jump right into coaching, and now he's doing it at the highest level. He is so well respected amongst everybody in that building, Tom Brady. Everybody respects him so much because they see the work that he does.
Again, he has that mentality of a spartan and what that encompasses and everything and how he goes about his business. So I'm super happy for him. I'm more excited for to see what the future holds for him, because it's going to be really bright, right so you just said his name. You know, everybody wants to know what makes Tom Brady tom Brady. Well, I think anybody that's been around him or has been around the NFL that you know, here's people talking over there, he's exactly as you would imagine,
is exactly what you see on TV. I mean, he is so calculated with everything that he does. He is so precise with everything that he does. So he's you know, he's the saying of like chests and checkers, like he is playing chess with everybody else. When we're sitting there trying to figure he's not just one step ahead everybody else, he's two three steps ahead everybody else. He takes such good care of his body. He's so
meticulous in his preparation. The thing that shocked me more than anything is how inclusive he was, especially for somebody like myself that got down there as late as I did. He is about the group and the collective whole and the strength of the pack, and I mean the game plans and everything else that where he wanted guys feedbacks and he wanted to be able to think what was
going on or different views or all that stuff. I mean, we would sit in there tirelessly and talk about things, talk through coverages, talk through play changed stuff, edit it because the quarterback has so much control and a Bruce arians Byron left which type of system that a lot of the onus is on the quarterback to feel comfortable and he's only going to call plays at the
quarterback feels comfortable with. So to be able to be an extra set of eyes and ears in that room, to be able to be a part of that, I mean, we literally went into the Super Bowl saying, no matter what Kansas City does to us, we've got a different plan BC or
D we could go to that will negate anything they're trying to do. And I was like, this is a bulletproof game plan in the Super Bowl and I've never seen something like it. And he went out and he executed it to a t. Obviously, the defense played at a high level and really held Patrick at bay when people weren't doing that. So it was neat just to be around that, to be reassured of all those things, and you
see the way Tom works, the way he interacts with people. I mean, it was a really special six weeks for maybe to be able to be down there. Definitely well, Drew, I mean, you're this is our Wednesday kind of preview of the weekend, right, so you know we're playing the buck guys at home. We asked hearing brothers kind of what is it going to take for the Spartans to turn the tide and get into the win column? But what is it going to take to beat the buck guys this
weekend? Hey, you guys are trying to set me up right now? Hey, hey, look we're this is transferent, this is open honesty here. Man. It's gonna take Peyton Thorn of last year. It's gonna take a confidence of guys buying into it and just stay in the course, right Like a football is a game of controlling what you can control, and it's about turnovers and about getting after the quarterback all those things. Ohio State is a super talented team. They can do a lot of things. But Michigan
State and the leadership they have there needs to step up. And right now there's adversity. They are at a crossroad of which way their season is going to go. They got their hands full this weekend an East Lancing and so, uh yeah, in order to land in college, your quarterback has to be playing well and Peyton hasn't lived up to those expectations yet, but he's very capable of it. Maybe he needs a halftime speech like I had a Northwestern There you go, let's break a boombox, man. It might it
might have CD players anymore. Anyways, awesome, awesome man. Listen. I appreciate you, man, because I know you are extremely busy but the family and doing stuff and obviously you coming this weekend and we can't wait to hug it up. Man, wap it up. It's been a long time
since I've seen you. I know. You know, before we give you let you go, you know you're very heavily in the foundation piece of it, and so we were all part of your high five foundation, and I guess talk talk to us about, you know, what you're doing now in the community standpoint in Arizona, but also back here because you maintained that connectivity in the community here, which a lot of people haven't done that. So
talk about that real quick before we kind of let you go. Yeah, I mean, it dates all the way back to when I was at Michigan State, right with the community outreach program that they had in place there and blown away by just the impact you can have of being able to put on a jersey and go sign an autograph or take a picture and really, like, you know, being able to deal with the youth and shed light and
bring joy and hope in some dim dark places at times. Right you go to a hospital or you go to kids with special needs that might get teased or anything like that, and when you can bring a smile on their face, you realize how impactful you can be. So when I got drafted by the Detroit Lions, I started the High five Foundation all the way back in two thousand and seven, and as I jumped around different teams in different places in the NFL, we had stuff, but I always knew Michigan State was
going to be my home. I was always going to be a part of that community. So starting the High five golf outing as we have every single year has been tremendous. We raised over a million dollars for the causes that
we support. It's been great to be able to have my name attached to that from that standpoint, and then this year we even took it to a different level of honoring George Purlis. We merged with his golf outing that was at Lansing Country Club or Country Club of Lancing, and Coach Tucker was the honorary chair and he took that thing over and made it really really special.
We raised an enormous amount of funds, and again, I've always tried to do community based events that's going to bring people together and raise awareness for the causes we believe in. And then if you believe in it and you love it, then I want you to donate money. I personally donate to these causes because you see a direct impact for Special Olympics of Michigan, for Children's
Miracle Network in Spara Hospital, the hospital I was actually born in. So it's really unique to be able to continue to have a footprint in the city that impacted my life and shaped who I was and continue to be and will continually give back to that. So, uh, you know, it's something that we always push the envelope because there's so many great causes, but I've always tried to stay ahead of the curve, and having Coach Tucker a part
of it really allowed us to take it to that next level. I always love and enjoying golf too, so appreciate Yeah, well, used the worst golfer here guaranteed. So no, I'm not. I'm not. I put some bread on it because no, I'm not the worst, the worst. I don't think that's you have no idea. I think it might be the worst. He's not saying nothing. I'm a lefty man. I'm surprised you my brother. You see, let's get them sticks out then, yeah, the way one way to settle it. Yeah, I appreciate you, Drew
Man. Thank you for your time. Man, this is great. It's been great, and we're gonna see you this weekend. Right, yep, we'll see you all this weekend. It's uh, it's long overdue, but I'm looking forward to Thanks for having me on guys. It's it's always a blasting you guys. Face. Definitely interesting man, great interview for Spartan legend, Drew Stanton. I mean, jay U, you got all the fun, you know, all that kind of stuff. Otis is getting into the
real like heart of the issues. And then you know, Drew what a professional little man. I mean, he's just great. That guy. You can tell he's a polished quarterback NFL level. Yeah, you know something you know, off the football side of things. He talked about his foundation and you know, just giving back to his foundation, giving back to you know, special needs, giving back to kids in hospitals and everything like that.
The person that Drew is going into the hospitals, going into you know, different events and stuff like that, that's the same person that he was in the locker room. He that guy would give us the shirt off his back to any one of his teammates anytime on there. That's how I remember Drew so great, dude. You know what, all his accolades that he has on the field well deserved. And you know, the life that he has built for himself, everything's well deserved. He's a great football player, but
a better person. That's right, well said Ju. And so as we put a boat on this episode, otis any final words for this weekends? Perform our game against Ohio State for Michigan State. Yeah. You know Drew talked about you know, this is that time for Peyton to to turn the time man and uh. But most importantly, we got to get our secondary
and our linebackers clicking on all cylinders. And it's all about knowing doing your job, doing and having the role that you you've been training for this whole week and preparing for We know that they their office is going to score points, but it's how about we control what we can control. And I just want to see pressure. I want to see energy and just have bringing that electricity back that we saw last year from from the tire, uh, you
know, defensive defensive side. And so I'm looking for our secondary to truly get some three and outs so that we could give Peyton some more opportunities to chew, to get in the rhythm. And then obviously our boy Elijah Collins man like feed the beast man. Let's get them going. And I'm ready to see see some see something happen, all right, I mean I'm looking to see something happen to ju. I mean you've you've said a lot. Do you have anything else? Yeah? I got some peak. Can you
give me a single shot? Thank you? All right? My My thing is this, My thing is to Spartan nation, Spartan fans, all right. I'm seeing all this stuff here on social media, people selling their tickets, people giving away their tickets. If you want to do that, that's on you. I can't stop you from doing that, all right, But Spartans stick together, Spartan's ride together. If you ever utter the words Spartan dog, you will be there. If you can cheering on these guys.
That's what it takes. There's nothing worse for a player, and I have to live through it. Otis had to live through it. You come out the tunnel at your own stadium and you see a sea of red because Ohio State invaded the statum because you Spartan faithfuls sold your tickets. Nothing worse than that. These guys are going out there, are busting their ass to give everything that they can to this university, to us fans. We're not Spartans
when the tide is high, when we're on the rise. We're Spartans when it's low, when it's medium, and when it's high, Spartan Nation, you have to come together and show out on Saturday. That is on. You give the players energies to feed off, and that energy give them to feed off. They will give you something to cheer for. Spartan Nation. We need you. That's it. Wow. Wow that whenever that was serious, that was definitely hot. Boy. You're right, you're right, and
you're absolutely right with that. There's nothing worse than coming out of the you. I mean, we we saw that. I mean we had a decent we were we were a great record when we played them my senior year and they came in and it was I mean it was legit like half and half. Yeah, you know you need you need the electricity, you need that momentum swing and you know we're competing. We had, we had Hoyer, we had you know, Devin, we had the squad to get the job
done. But like you said, this, you don't want to see that happening. It's almost like it's almost like your parents are and gave up on you, right right, it said to kick you out and said never come
back again. Like it feels that type of way sometimes. And so also to be honest, like it was you blocked out the noise and you said, regardless, whoever's here, I appreciate you, right, I appreciate you student section, whoever came, those faithful stayed in the range, sleek snow, I appreciate you because that's when we know who our truest companions are and our fans. Well, I'll take it a step further, Jason, your kid's a four star athlete right now at IMG Academy. All right, a
bunch of college offers this weekend. We're gonna have a ton of recruits coming in. If your kid came into Michigan State for a home game on ABC against Ohio State and they see the stadium as half full of red, do you think those guys are gonna they're gonna want to come to Michigan State. Man. The reason that you know you you are doing this is not only for the present, right, You gotta have some pride in the past. You got to cheer for the guys who are on the field presently, but
then in college more importantly, you gotta be talking about the future. Because, yes, this is going to be a huge recruiting weekend for Michigan State. One of my son's teammates who is a commit is going to be there in attendance, and as we know it, you know, until that ain't dries man, there's nothing in stone, right, So you want to show those young players, those young prospects, hey, like, this is the place that you want to be. I don't care if we're down, if
we're having a bad season. We had a rough couple of weeks. We are here for you. This means everything when you talk about those big time fan bases around the country that Mel Tucker is really doing a phenomenal job of trying to get the Spartans to believe that they are. Well, if you really want to be that, then this is what you gotta do the bad times. You got to show up, you gotta show out, and you gotta get and scream and be behind that team because the guys and youngsters are
watching. You know, you want these get this team to be better and be a team that can go into Columbus and pound Ohio State in the future, then you got to be there this weekend. What Jayu said is absolutely right, and you know, for more than just the reasons of this week, it's for the future as well. Who was said Luther that said I rather have bad times with you and good times for someone else. Well, let's let Luther keep doing that. We gonna have to hit a button so
that he can see it. How about that? You know, so I thought I was like, man, I want to say this, Do I say it? Or do I say it? And then it just came out. You know, you lost show time, man, But look, hey, no phenomenal show, great interviews today. You know, we look forward to another breakdown of what happened at the Ohio State game in the Woodshed next week when we catch back up. But you know, looking forward to this weekend, fellas. It's great seeing you guys for my co host Otis Wiley
and jay U Chuchu Couch. I'm Jason Straehorn. This is Sparta. Have a good night, God blessed and go great, go right. Had that time my bad? You know how put the time