The following is a presentation of play Fly Sports properties in Michigan State Sports Properties. Well, hello and good evening. It is Thursday, July thirteen, twenty twenty three. Welcome to the only show about Spartan Dogs hosted by Spartan Dogs. This is sparta in Man Shoot. I'm your host. Jason Straighthorn played back in the Purlsten Saving era as a center the team captain. Couldn't
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of him as you fellas what's happening man? Look, I see Chow was in rare form. When he has a code on like that prime for a great show. You are you are? I mean it's almost like what was the precursor. Did you have some debvies before you got on, because you always in that little let's just say a little work of But this is my straight coat. This is a Jason coach. When I put out this coat and put it on, it's like this is something straight would where you know,
yeah, buddy, and we're we're talking about it. Like I said, you know, I like North Carolina. I would have gotten say that Roy Williams. You got that Royal guys, they got that that blue that makes my skin pop. Yeah, I like to you kind of glowing right there. You know what color pants you got on? Bro? I got some Navy boys on blue Castila. In the fashion world, it's called color matching. Color, Yeah, this color matching. We got a jam Pack show. We got a few guests on the show, you know, special
guests. We've got a quarterback on the show right now, guys. And but before we get into all of that, Big ten Media Day is coming up down in Indianapolis July twenty six to twenty seven. We've got Coach Tucker's going with j D to playing Trade Moseley and Cal Halliday. Yeah, yeah, great time, great time in Chica. I go that like you felt like when you got invited to go to Big ten media, you felt like you bab on the team when you're there. And uh so now I'm just
hoping the boss man Otis can get straight. You and I we can, you know, you know, go and be in the press at media day. I'll deep those pockets you got, man, let me hold us there. We signed billions of dollars of media deals. We still can't we we don't have any money. I don't know. Five broke right, broke broke, Yeah, you know media meeting days, like remember, I feel like the Big ten, like the network had just like when we were playing, it had just came. Y'all were the first. I feel like y'a were
the first. Yeah, and then me and Hoyer and Javan. I believe with that two thousand and eight year. But I do remember that that that commercial. I wish we pulled that up. We did that commercial where I was like, yeah, we got yeah. Somehow I couldn't get right, man, I couldn't. I kept smiling and laughing because I couldn't get serious. I was like, just really play it, don't play it in the stadium one game day and everything like that. That's like one of the first
times and everything that was that was really cool. That's where you guys were. They started playing three players because it was only like two offense defense. That was it. Yeah, and you had to be skilled player. No, no, no, guys, no trenches man. That's that's why I was like I discovered. I was like, oh, they do fake they do fake sweat, they spray you and like you talk, it made you run, yeah, man. Also speaking of Trade Moseley, Trede Moseley was
nominated for the AFC A Good Works Team. Yeah, buddy, look this man we already know Trade Like Trade is that guy. Man, He's one of those guys that I mean, we talked, we had tyroll. You know. He was saying, Hey, I look up to Trey. Uh he's a guy that's gonna follow up suit and looks like we're having some complications here. Oh yeah good. Oh it was me. Then it's not bad. Um, yeah it's me. So you know, Trady's a guy that that that is a stand up. He's an epitome of what a Spartan dogar
is a current player. Uh, he's a well rounded student athlete. And so they called from the OG so it's good to see that he's representing us well, along with JD the Plane and our boy the body Man, Kyle Holliday. So it's gonna be looking forward. Hopefully we are there. We hopefully we're there. But I went last year briefly. It's a different vibe at Lucas Oil Indianapolis, Like it's very it's on the field like it brings PTSD because the combine, like when you walk in there, it's kind of
like wide hoping um. But it's at the Indianapolis Lucas Oil Stadium and it's very big, wide open. It's very not as intimate as it used to be, but it's a good atmosphere. You got the guys going in and out um, and it's crazy seeing all the different personalities of the coaches when they had their time to go to media and you kind of see like who's the big dogs and who's kind of like the t middle tier. But it's
really an exciting thing. Hopefully we get to go down there. And my loss or is old is still talking about media Day and we're talking about no I was talking about Trey Moseley. I'm talking about trade Mosley being a representation now I'm saying, yeah, like I didn't because you said your feet was I was like, I know, no, No, you're right on time to don't worry about it. Man, we got Yeah. You know that's the American Football's Coaches Association. Yeah, those who don't know and that,
you know, that's a that's a big honor. Um, you know, good, good for Trey. And you guys all know this last year, I was a Trey Moseley guy. You know, I said, he's that sneaky player, especially that receiver, especially when you get in the red zone. You know, he's gonna be that guy saying you're not You're not a
Trey Mosa guy. This year, I'm saying what I'm saying as Ross Perot said in the ninety two debates, And yes, but you know what I said about you know, he was gonna be that guy in the red zone. So this year now he's gonna have to put that cape on. He's gonna have to be that guy, the every down guy. He's going to be that number one receiver, and someone else is gonna have to pop up to be that tune three. So um, you know I'm excited for that.
I'm excited for what Trey breaks the table and he's a he's a hell of a hell of a representation for Spartan Nation. Great guy, great kid, all the way, great family, just just all around just a class act on and off the field. Trey Mose congratulations for that. May see him in Indianapolis. So keep working on adhotis right. But look, we got an All Big Ten coach at Michigan State on the football staff. Two for US seven Sports rated the All Big Ten's preseason coaching staff honors and I
went to coach Cap for the offensive line villas. Yeah, that's that's really big. That's really big. You know, Coach Cap has been the mastermind behind a lot of like this. You know, everyone gives you know, K nine a lot of that, those accolades and everything, but I'm sure K nine will be the first one. And you know you talk to you know running backs, you know, you talk. We had Lorenzo on the
show, We had Javon on the show. Um and myself as a running it can't be done without the offensive line and what he's doing, what he did last even last year. You had Corey from two four seven Sports. He said, last year's offensive line was better than when K nine was there. You know, it's just that growth in the matturation process that this offensive
line is halving year in and year out. So it's gonna be really exciting to see and uh, the big sumbreros on the offensive line this year, Coach Cap, you know preseason, you know all big ten, the big sumbreros on the offensive line. Now can they produce straight? What do you what do you feel when you see that being alignement form alignment? And then you know with our future as an offensive linement and your two boys, and I'm putting that in there too, like, what do you see when you
see this news? I mean, I'm I'm happy about it obviously, you know you see Coach Cap, I mean, a couple of springs ago, if you guys can remember, he didn't have many guys, didn't have enough guys to field a team. That's why they couldn't do the scrimmage format, the true game format, because I think there was only like three or four offensive linemen, which is hell on guys, you know when you're going through spring drills. Now he's built that room up to about nineteen players on that
offensive line. In camp, you know in any given day, the quality of athlete that he's able to track. Now, obviously he's got his resume speaks for itself talking about coach Kap, but he's now getting the guys that can play at a high level. Everybody seems to be six six and above. I mean the whole team. I think you know, we had Keyshan blackstock on and he was he's six fives. He's like one of the shorter guys. Now, you know JD. De Plaine, Nick Saymac guys that
are six year guys coming back. I think they've got a good, strong nucleus of guys plus running back that running back room. You know, you know your boy Nate Carter too is going to be back there as a leader along with Burger. It's it's to me, look, man, I mean this is this is setting up to be there. They're a sneaky good team. And you know, a year ago we talked to different players and they said, we're going to go as far as the offensive line takes us.
And that's true with just about any team on the planet. If the offensive line is has is good and they have that continuity because that's what they have to work on in the off season. You know he heard uh Tony Lippett too a couple of days ago talking about how much they worked off the field without coaches. You have to have that kind of chemistry in order to be able to play the game at a high level very fast. The preseason isn't that long. Camp isn't that long. You don't have a lot of two
of days, so you have to get it in now. So hopefully they're doing that, and I'm I'm like looking forward to see what they produced this year on that offensive line because you know, as they go, you're gonna see a lot of points being scored. If they're not going, it's gonna be really bad in a long season. Be a long Season's right? YEA, our job too long, boy, I tell you that too. Did you ever I obviously being your teammate, did you ever give gifts buy gifts
for the officsive line in college? In college? Um? Yeah, what I I didn't buy gifts. What I did was after every win, I would have a handwritten thank you note to each offensive lineman and put in their locker. Uh So when on Sundays, yes Sundays, when we go to meeting, I would go in early put a hand I had a handwritten thank you note and put in each offensive lineman locker, I ain't got, I don't have, and I owe money to be getting give man. How nice
is that? That's thoughtful? Yeah, but you gotta called sendor Gerva put no not in my damn was it was? It the same message? It was was it catered to each player. It was to each player. And you know, the funny thing about our offensive line is like, and you know, you got guys like Jesse Miller, Roland Martin. I'm looking in my senior year when I had you know, the touchdown wreck, you know, because like we had the black side and the white side of the you
had a racial line like it was. It was a slang and proper English, you know, it had like and so we had Pete Clifford on one he was the pet Cliford's the left tackle, and then we had another white guy as the guard, and then John Masters was the center, and then on that side we had Jesse Roland Martin. So like the other way around, Martin and Millard Martin and Miller. Yeah, yes, good Dunes, That's that's funny. You have a mixed ga in the middle of you gotta
have a mixed kid in the middle of that perfect yeah. Yeah, but I had handwritten thank you notes that I that I would put in their lockers after every wind Man. You are a stand up guy. Okay, you know what I try to be. You know anybody? Oh my goodness. Moving on, Look, guys, it's time to bring on the president elect of the oldest college association coach association in the nation. This is the oldest one at Michigan State since nineteen forty six, the MSU Downtown Coaches Club that
has Harry and Dean. That's the president here and how are you doing? Thank you, welcome back. I should say you sorry, just because you're on here right now doesn't mean you don't give a like Sure, as soon as I've gone, I'll go in and do a lot licam subscribe. This is a great time for that. Thank you. Don't forget to Liam subscribe on the show. Thank so. Harriet. You have an upcoming event for
the Spartan Football Barbecue. We do. We have a barbecue coming up on Thursday, the twenty seventh of July, and it's going to be at the Duffy Doherty Football Center inside of the practice field. And this is an extremely unique event because I don't know anywhere in the country where you can join the Booster Club, which is thirty six bucks. Thirty six bucks, and then you can pay twenty five dollars and have a barbecue with the entire coaching staff,
with the entire football team and the other club members. I mean, this is this is once in a lifetime activity. You know, it's going to be fantastic. So we would really love it if the folks that are listening to our podcast here would join us. And I want to tell you there have been the Downtown Coaches Club every year awards the outstanding offensive, defensive and Special Teams player, and that award has been in place since nineteen seventy
five. And like, for instance, on the special teams, guys like Kyler Allsworth, like Keshan Martin, Matt Coughlin, Mike Sandler. On the offensive side, Lorenzo White, Tico Duckett, Kirk Cousins, Drew Stanton, Brian Hoyer, who you're gonna hear from short on the defensive side, and we gonna shout out for the offense. I got it. It was a den to that. In addition, to hey. On the defensive side, we have our own old as Wiley Coaches Club really pays attention looks at these
guys. But this barbecue is going to be fantastic. I don't I don't even know how well to describe it. Coach Tucker is gonna say a few words, some players are gonna say some words. Saddleback barbecue is catering. How can you go wrong with them? So it's gonna be a great event. Yeah, Harry, we used to have the barbecue and it had to and did it just stopped like because there was some stuff like ISA or something like that. It stopped. We stopped doing it for a while, and
then it's now be getting picked back up exactly. Part of the reason it stopped was because it really depends on the head coach and Nick Saban actually came up with the idea. And you know, everybody thinks he's such a rough, tough guy and he's all business, but he came up with the idea
doing this barbecue. So we did the first one with him, and then John l picked it up, and then coach he picked it up for a while and it just sort of went on the wayside for a while, but we are bringing it back and hopefully it's gonna be a ongoing annual event. I gotta hand it to Darien Harris. That guy, he's amazing. He has done yeoman's duty to help make this thing happen, and my fellow board members have made this happen. We're gonna have three hundred people there, but
you know, one hundred and fifty of them are staff and players. The players aren't gonna eat it like their own table. They're gonna mix and mingle and eat with the eat with us, you know, lowly fans. So
it's gonna be really great and I'm really excited about it. Yeah that you know the Downtown Coaches Club, you know, it holds a special spot to me because you know there's that Downtown coaches called lunching on a Friday or our Thursday if you're having away game and when you're selected to go to that Downtown Coaches Club luncheon, it really it's a it's a special you know invite. It means a little something extra t one. You get a great lunch.
You know, you know black in college there, so um, but you know it's a really cool thing. It means you're like, you really like a part of you know, Spartan Nation, and you know, like Jason Um stated and Harry said, it is the oldest coaches association in the country and it's something that's really special. So Harry, the question for you, as you know people that are listening, how if you're not a member of the Downtown Coaches Club want what do you have to do to be a member?
And two? How do you be a member and sign up for this event? Great question. All you have to do is go into your favorite browser and put in Downtown Coaches Club and it will take you directly to our homepage and there's gonna be a pop up box right away that's going to talk about the barbecue, and you click on that. You can do one transaction where you join the club either as an individual for thirty six dollars or as a family, and then you can choose your to add the barbecue right on
there. It'll total everything up. You pop your credit card in and the way we go and you are a member. You can come not only to the barbecue, but you could come to our luncheons this fall. We're also going to do some happy hours. We do most of ours at Reno's Reno's East, which is where the radio show is. The first happy hour is going to be before the radio show. Everybody can come and have a couple of drinks, say hi to Coach Tucker, and then boom we're going on
in. Everybody going in the radio show. So it's really easy to join, it's easy to be a part of things, and we would love to have Henny Spartan. There is also a what we call a remote membership, which is twenty bucks, and that's for people who live out of state and can't come to things, but they still want to be a part of the club. One hundred percent of the proceeds that we draw in goes to very small operating costs. The rest goes back to support the Spartan football program and
players. We're trying to support Nil. We're trying to support in any way that the head coach or his staff says, hey, can you help us out with this? Can you help us out with that? So we do everything we can and we would love to have you join it. Love it, Harriet. You know dt ncoaches dot Org is the actual link there. So DTN I don't know if we can put that up for everyone, and look, thank you for coming on and telling us about this fantastic event.
You know, we might crash the party. Yeah, I think that, you know, we might have a little this Sparta party of it there with all those spart dogs and the fans from the downtown Coaches Club. That'll be fun. Love to have y'all, even buy your dinner. Love it does start? When is what? When does your you know we say your president elect? When do you I'm doing it? This is it? Yeah, yeah, look, no better person to lead this than Harriet Dean and we
look, I'm excited for you, Harriet. Thank you, appreciate it. I'll get in that chat because they're listening it all right, guys, look at and there she goes. That's that fast, you know. Don't forget to hit that like a subscribe button on the YouTube link, and don't forget to follow us on our social media platforms that this is Sparta MS you.
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going to get the Goose boys right now? Brian Oyer joins, this is smart. How are you doing, Brian? I'm great, guys, thanks for having me. Oh man, thank you. And I was waiting to go to back to training camp next week, but I'm ready to go right now. After that video plays, look man like so that that right there, that moment you know you're coming off of that two thousand and seven season, after that comeback win for the school down the road, which D'Antonio makes
that statement, you know, pride comes before the fall. They better checked themselves. And then you start this. You know, we hadn't won the Paul Bunyan Trophy for about seven years. I think it was a seven year drought. You started a trend that you know, I think went on for about a decade. How did that feel. Talk about the moments leading up that year going into your last game against Michigan. Yeah, I mean, we all did it. We had an incredible game that game. I remember
the year before, how how tough that one was. You know when coach D'Antonio made those comments after that game my junior year, Um, you know that was a heartbreaking loss, and I think it kind of set the tone, you know for the program going forward because we played well after that game, and then next year we played well, and you know for my senior year to go down to Ann Arbor and beat them in their place, that
was huge. I mean that, you know, I wish I would have had some bigger games to say, you know, those were the most important games to me, you know, winning bowl games but beating them my senior year with that group of guys that you know, we had been through a lot um you know, Odyssey year, you're going to meet Jau a year older than me, but you know, we went through some tough times and to you know, start that on the right the right track and then to
see what you know, years later, you know it became was with something special. Yeah, man, it absolutely was something special. Uh And you know, like you know, Jason stated, you know at that leading the you know, starting off with that, you know that trend for those wins for a decade. So you talked about, you know, it's a heartbreaking loss. What wasn't like that week going into you know, you're going into their territory now after the comment was made of little brother and everything like that,
what was that week eating too? That Michigan game? Like, well, I think otis you were there. I mean, I think we were just super focused. I think it was you know, that was the year to get it done and it was going to their place. And I think we felt like we we owed him from the year before because we had him beat the year before and you know, coached Antonio saying that, I mean
obviously we don't like them. They don't like us, and they've always tried to treat us like the little brother, and you know, so it was good to go down there and beat them in their place. And and you
know, like I said, start that trend. So when now that I've been in the NFL, when I'm walking around guys from from that school, I got some you know, a lot of talk and you know, trashed them and one big bet with my buddy who played quarterback down there, you know, years before Tom Brady had him wearing some Michigan state gear over the year. So it's all good. Yeah, Brian, you you you you
I remember, man, like I still get tals. I'm kind of like species because when I remember that pre game and we were in the we were lined up on the end of the back end zone and they were on their sideline and it was like national anthem, and I just remember like it was not like you know, everybody's like focus looking at the flag, like we were looking straight at them and it was looking at us, and it was like it was about to be a brawl, Like it was that intense,
man and then just the swag and like the poise, you know, I'm looking at the highlights and like your play action game was like smooth, bro like, but like we talked about, just you or you duck back there and you don't know if you handed it off or not, and then you get a little swag with it and that bullet passed too man, and so yeah, that helps. We have a great running game like we did.
Remember Javon's run, you know right before how I just remember, you know, we were just kind of going to run the clock out and we hand like a power to the left and javan breaks free and then it was you know, he showed off his speed. They couldn't catch him. And I remember going in the locker room and like this is you know, we needed that and uh we took that momentum and never gave it back. Absolutely,
absolutely, Yeah, Brian, You're you are a testament. Like you know they talk about, you know, your former teammate Tom Brady being a fountain of youth. You are a testament of the fountain of youth. You've been in fifteen years bro in the league, you know, playing at a tough position as well, and uh, you didn't always have it easy. You came into me, you had to work for everything that you had and if
we have a picture of this, we can't. You came in to Michigan, say you're behind Drew Stanton, Drew us a guy you know at Michigan State. And then you came in like quarterback. Look at this running backs, this quarterbacks from right here. You have Nick Fools, you have Kirk Cousins, you have Connor Dixon, John Van Dame, Clay Charles A. K A. Spuds. You know, like you had, you had some
dudes, you know in that quarterbacks room. What you know, like what did Drew teach you, you know, being his understudy, and you know what did that perseverance teach you to compete every day? Because that quarterback's rooms,
there's the guys that play in the league. Yeah, I mean, look, my experience at Michigan State taught me a lot about perseverance, handling tough times, learning from great people, you know, great coaches, great players, not obviously not just in my quarterback room, but just in general. I mean, you look at I was kind of getting prepared for this
and looking back at the rosters of guys that we play. I mean, we sent a ton of guys to the NFL got a ton of guys play, you know, training camps, all those things, and you know we couldn't always quite pieces together, but you know, it always it always taught me something about persevering and grinding through. Like I remember my first three years were rough. You know, we didn't win very many games. And you know, I also look at like in today's day and age, like a
transfer portal and all that stuff, like we didn't have that luxury. You had to like fight for it. And that taught me a lot and it's what got me through for fifteen years in the NFL. I haven't had it easy. You know, I've been cut, traded, you know, all
those things. When it goes back to it, like you know, those those lessons you learn, you know, as a young kid trying to just figure it out in East Lansing and trying to make a spot on the team and learn from other guys, like you know, prepared me for the ups and downs, because the reality is football is a bunch of ups and downs, and you know, it's a very humbling game. And you could think you're on top and then the next week and it canna be your day.
And that's just the way it goes and I think, you know, I learned that, you know, through some tough times at Michigan State, and you know it's invaluable to me. I really believe I wouldn't you know, have had the career in the NFL that I've had if it wasn't for you know, learning how to deal with that adversity. Man. You know, there's a lot of places you can go. You've had such a story career. You're talking about fifteen years in the NFL. But you know, take
it back a little bit. You know, you you're mclemand Area right in Ohio and he went to Nastas. I mean that's everybody knows that name around the country. Literally, they haven't been as big as they used to be. To talk about that experience, I know you probably you know that's bad work if you guys want to fight and get that program back to Gloria like it should be. But how did that program prepare you? And what was it like there? Yeah? I mean, look our coach, she's just
retired at last year. Coach Kyle, I think he won twelve state championships since nineteen eighty eight, and it was a big time program and it prepared me for you know, Big ten football, and oddly enough, his relationship with John L. Smith because he had sent a quarterback to Loluisville by the name of Dave Ragone, which side note ended up being one of my quarterback
coaches and when I played for the Chicago Bears. But his relationship with John L. You know, kept him coming back to Ignacious to recruit, and you know a few years later he went to Michigan State and I was there, and you know, I just felt like it was a great relationship between my head coach and him. And then I got to visit Michigan State in the campus and I loved it, and you know, it just worked out. But I think his style of program, you know, prepared me very
well for the next level. And even more so, you know, when coach Santonio came around, it was a big change in culture from you know, the way things were with coach Smith, and that aligned more with how my high school coach was um and you know, it was it was a great match. And you know, to be his first starting quarterback and kind of get the ball, get the ball rolling with him was a great experience.
Yeah, Brian, So take us back to you know, like what other schools you know, because it's like Jason said, you played at a big time school on high and Ohio's known for their football, you know, Ohio, Texas, you know, California, all those schools are like football powerhouses. What other schools offered you and what made you choose Michigan State? Um, you know, oddly enough, my first my first recruitment letter came from Michigan State for baseball, not for football, after my sophomore season.
And you know, so I was kind of already on my radar because I had kind of had the intention of going to college to play both, and so Michigan State was already on my radar. And then I had a good junior year and a lot of teams started recruiting me. And you go and you do, especially at quarterback, you know, you want they want you
to go do these camps so they can see you throw in person. And you know, so I kind of went around into camps and I really liked you know, the facilities and the campus at Michigan State, you know, being from Ohio, obviously I went to the Ohio State camp, went to the Michigan camp, Penn State, you know, all those big ten schools, a few other ones down the East coast like South Carolina, Maryland, UM, North Carolina, Wake Forest, and then you know, the more
you get to know the coaches and see the area, then I think you kind of narrow it down. And UM, I wanted to have a commitment before my senior year so I could focus on my senior year. We were we were going to be naturally ranked. I didn't want that looming over my head. And you know, Ohio State and Michigan both said that I was their second choice, and I think wanted chat Hanny, who he ended up going to Michigan, and Ohio State wanted a kid from Louisville named Brian Brown.
And I didn't want to be someone's second choice, and so I said, you know what, I'm gonna go with the school that I'm their first choice, and that was Michigan State. And you know, I never really looked back. And oddly enough, when when Brian Brown went to Louisville, Ohio State, they called and said, hey, would Brian reconsider in de committing? And I didn't. I did. I didn't grow up in an
Ohio State fan, even though I grew up in Ohio. Um, you know, so I wasn't like set on it, and I was like, look, they wanted me first, and I want to be someone's first choice. I don't want to be someone's second choice. Oh yeah, man, So growing up in Ohio, you weren't who were you a fan of? Growing I was avean Brown fan. I never my dad, So we didn't. We didn't grow up watching college football. I mean I used to think Notre Dame was in California. Yeah, And I remember being like, we're
gonna play Notre Dame and it's in Indiana. I had no idea. Wasn't that the year we u we drove? We drove like to that right? Like yeah, Brian, you know talk about you talked to mention about the John el Era and the coach d and you know, people don't understand the stress we went under when we obviously under John l but also like we're in the loeu of who is coming to to be Hardy the X head coach.
But talk about because you're you're now the starting quarterback. Yeah seven, but like talk about just the expectations, the stress, like just the unknown of what you had to go through knowing that we all were going through it. Yeah, well, I mean, luckily for me, I didn't mention this MA I was gonna recruit, but I got really recruited and offered by the universe of Cincinnati where that's where coach Antonio was. Um, you know,
but Cincinnati wasn't what they are now. That was I think that was still as a Conference USA or the you know, it wasn't. It wasn't primetime football like it is now. And so although I liked him, I wanted to play in the Big Ten, and you know, so I had gotten to know him over the cream process there, and you know, I always really liked them, and so I'll never forget him walking in the Duffy Doherty building that first day and and being like, hey, I mean, I
guess it was meant to work out. You know, it wasn't. That's such a Coach D thing too, remembering that and go back to yeah, so you know, I was excited about it, but obviously, you know, we all know, I'll never forget. Remember we didn't have a conditioning test with John l and then Coach D got there. I told the story to guys to this day, and it was twenty half gasterers, right, and I'll never forget the last day we were leaving for like summer break.
Coach Man. He was like, look, we're running them until everybody makes twenty and we're running and not everybody's making them, so we gotta keep going. I think we did, like twenty seven we're carrying I think it was Charlie Gan like we were literally carrying all them over the line. Yeah. I mean he brought a discipline to the program that was much needed, and
I think, you know, we responded. We have some bumps and early on and you know, I think, what we're like seven and five that year, but we had I mean towards the end of that year, we really started to put it together and you know, went to a bowl game and it was it was you know, it was what the program needed. Yeah, Brian so Um, going from a guy like coach d uh and going from Michigan State, how did that prepare you for playing for a guy like Bill Belichick. I mean, it didn't you, But I don't know
how much it could. I guess Nick say, but you know what, I always look at coach d and you know, I through the recruiting recruiting process, I got to meet Jim Trussell a lot he was at Ohio State. I thought he was a wonderful man, great, great leader, great, you know, very like insightful, very like, you know, thoughtful. And I've never met coach Saban, but I know those are kind of
Coach D's two biggest influencers in his career. And after playing for him, non coach Trussell, seeing Nick Saban, I think he was a perfect you know, meld of those two guys. His personality, his perseverance, um, you know, the way he treats I felt like he genuinely cared about us players, right. I think you guys would all agree with that for sure. You know, his kind of down the middle of those two guys. I mean it prepared me to play for Bill. But nothing, I
mean even Saban can't prepare you for playing for Bill. No, no, I can attest to that. Just just I don't know Bill that well. But Saban, you know, he's very meticulous. He's a tough guy, right, but but he leaves he pretty much leaves the offensive law right Bill, From what I understand, he knows every position. Like that's one head
coach that can coach every position, which is sure No. I mean I think I think the discipline that we played with a the accountability that coached Antonio, you know, kind of those are two the biggest pillars playing for coach Belichick, and so you know it was it was obviously different, different personalities,
different motivation, all those things. But I think, you know, playing in a quote unquote pro style offense, a pro style program at Michigan State really prepared me for you know, a the hard work that it was going to take, because I think that was one thing. I think we always worked harder than everybody else, obviously having coached Antonio, but but coach Manny, I think there was never a down in our mind. And I think that's always been something that I've taken with me too. You know,
I made it. I gotta find a funny story, Brian. Uh And you probably remember this, but when you obviously with the Patriots and you came to Detroit and you playing the lines and you hooked you hooked us up with two tickets and uh and obviously watching the game and then you know, come to find you after the game. Um, and when he came out the locker room like he had a whole new swag, like he had to. He can't go ahead, he had to. He got me. That was
he was rest to the nine right, and so we were talking. He was like, yeah, Tom just gave me all his clothes from I'm the oldest of four. I never got any hand me downs. And then I got there and I'm getting hand me downs from Tom Brady. I was like, I gotta take him. I'm gonna look way better than what I should affod right now, English bos little thig. I had to pass on the suits, but the shirts, the hats, everything. Oh man, how great that for being a starting ure of me? That's awesome? You know.
The crazy thing, you know, like you know you made them when you talk about Belich and you call him Bill. I mean, I've been around him for so long, and you know, I'm not twenty one years old anymore. So it's like, you know, that was the one thing, you know, going in the NFL that blew me away was that they never no one ever called him coach. They called the name. I was like, am I allowed to do that? You know that? And just I'm older than some of my coaches. So it's just, you know,
that's just kind of the business that it is. I don't know. Maybe college kids are doing it these days. I don't know, or that's the same thing for because my running backs coach with the Jets was Jimmy Ray, and I'll call him coach Ray. But other people are like, hey Jimmy on this. I was like, you know, can you do that a little right? Right? You know? So go ahead? So so Bran, So I think nine teams right that you do? Nine teams fifteen years.
You're a family man. You've got two little ones. Yeah, they're not so little anymore. Yeah, eleven and nine, So eleven and nine, fifteen years in the league. All they know is dad playing in the NFL and all the different cities that you've been to now, so talk about that, like, because I know you're making a move to Las Vegas right now and the family, I don't know, how is that dynamic as a dad dealing with this, you know, with the job like you have.
Yeah, I mean it's it's gotten harder as the years have gone on, you know, the older they get, and this one will be probably the toughest. And you know, I couldn't do it without my wife supporting me to do it. And I think we all realized there's a limited window, right, and I've been fortunate enough to extend that window and keep extending it. And you know, my son, I you know, we sat down as a family and said, look like that has an opportunity to go do
this. And my son's like, you gotta go, you know, and so he was excited. My daughter was not so excited. But you know, when you look at it, it's really a short window of time that you have the opportunity to do it. And I wouldn't have gone and done it for any other coach. Coach McDaniels who obviously spent some time at Michigan State under coach Saban and Josh and I have known each other. I've known his family since I was in high school. His dad was a legendary coach
in Ohio at Kent McKinley High School. And you know, so there was no other coach that I would have gone and played for at this point. But I know him really well. I know the offense really well, and you know, I think we have a really good team. So it was an opportunity that I didn't want to, you know, regret not taking.
And you know, it's funny all the retired players I ever talked to, you know, I said, like, how's it going, you know, give me some advice, and they always say play until they don't want you anymore. So, um, you know, because once you come back and I said, I couldn't do it without the support of my wife. It hasn't been easy. Um. You know, town to town, you know,
one year here, one year there. It's funny it's fifteen years, but when you know we added up this past this past offseason, it's really I've lived in New England like nine, nine or ten of those fifteen years, you know, because a few places were a year here, a year there, and then came back in twenty seventeen. You know, I left here in twenty twelve and came back in in October of twenty seventeen, So there was five year gap in there. But ten years of my career and
of my adult life really have been here in Boston. So is that where you know you're in Vegas now you're you're in Boston. Is your family going to be in Boston and you're gonna be in Vegas? We're making a game time decision were I'm stud out there? So Vegas is a whole other animal. Um, I don't know. Like I said, you know, the kids are in school, they got their friends, they got their things. So haven't made that decision yet. Um, kind of gonna just springing times.
We've prepared and it's been fine, and you know, this is towards the end, so we'll see. I mean, I think I have to take into consideration what's best for them and and you know, hopefully you know, it all works out. So it's like I said, it's a short period of time and we'll figure it out. Go ahead. Um, So Brian, for you, you know, you went to Michigan State, you grew up Hayden. Um, not grew up, but on the four years at Michigan State you grew up Haydon. Two teams, Nor Dame and University
of Michigan. Yep. So then your season's done, at your career's done at Michigan State. You go to the Patriots. You walk into the facility and there's just you know who and he played an How was it, you know, being in the quarterbacks room with Tom Brady and how what did he teach you? You know for you know, for your career that you can look back on and now still getting you fifteen years in Yeah, I mean knowing him for fifteen years when I look back and walking into that room and
I walk in and he introduces himself, Hey, I'm Tom. Yeah, like no, no, no shit, But that's just genuinely who he is. And you know I talked about never really you know, using what you know, handling that adversity that I went through additional state to you know, get this point in my career. Had I not been around him, you know, I wouldn't have gotten to this point in my career either. Because he allowed me to you know, learn from him, asking questions, um,
and just to see his daily preparation. I mean it was incredible. It was like, you know, it'd be like being able to shadow Albert Einstein if you wanted to be in into physics. I mean, the guy I came in every day a true professional, wanted to get better every single day. And it was a great eye opening experience for me. And you know, we would make some subtle jabs about the Michigan state Michigan thing, but um, you know, I couldn't have asked for a better mentor.
And he, I mean, he took me under his wing. And I think the one thing that I did the best was just trying to soak it up and watch and learn and not you know, pest. And when I had a question, I would ask, but if I didn't, I would
just kind of watch him do things. And you know, he was he was always very vocal about how he saw things and the way he saw them when he was talking with our coach, and you know, i'd take notes about that, and you know, I mean, I couldn't ask for a better person to to not only you know, be a teammate with, but
just you know, friends and have a mentor like that. I wouldn't say that about anyone else from University of Michigan, by the way, right, Yo, Yeah, Horyer, we had a we had a will ghosting on and he was talking about, you know, a super Bowl champion, you
know, and we very rare we have guys from us. That's you know, that's getting that right and talk about the experience like that's the highest of the highest, right meta, And just talk about that preparation of like when you really finally came to really realization that I'm I'm in the super Bowl and I'm prepping to play you know for a national or super Bowl championship. Yeah, you know, that was the one when when I was on the team
that won it. It was the third time that i'd gone. The first time was my third year we lost to the Giants, and then my second time was an offensive explosion a game against Nick Foles and the Eagles, and we lost that game. And you know, the third time, I was like, God, like we got like, we have to win this game. I don't know, I mean, some people don't give a Super Bowl
an entire career. This is the third one that I'm going to, and you know, being the backup quarterback, I'm trying to do whatever it takes, you know, give the defense a great look, watch extra film, help Tom, you know, on the sidelines, thing like that. But oddly enough, of all the years that we went to the Super Bowl, I felt like we won the Super Bowl in the AFC Champion of Game when we'd beat the Chiefs. That to me was a far more memorable game than
the super Bowl itself. The Super Bowl itself was kind of boring. I mean, you remember that one, but it was a low scoring game. But that AFC Champion of Game beating the Chiefs you know, mahomes, all those guys at their place. It was freezing cold. I wore a scuba suit just to like stay warm. I mean it was you know how it is like when you probably like a hostile environment, all you have is the guys next to you, and you know to do that there. And we
didn't have a great like regular season that year. We had lost to the Dolphins on the Miami Miracle. We had lost the Steelers late in the year. You know, people were kind of saying like, oh, we're not going to go very far. And it was kind of like an US against the world attitude for that Chiefs game. And once we won that, I mean, obviously you prepare for the Super Bowl, you know, the best you can, but it was kind of, you know, once we beat
the Chiefs, I felt like we were going to beat the Rams. It didn't matter because the way that our team came together offense, defense, the way we were celebrating with each other, it was like, you know, it was like a family and there was nothing that was gonna, you know, get in our way of winning that year. Yeah, absolutely so, Brian. So I had the opportunity. I was blessed with the opportunity to play, you know, two years, you know with the Bills in my
hometown. Yeah, you have the opportunity you just talked about. You said you are an Ohio State fan, you are a Cleveland Browns fan. Ye, now you get to go home. Yeah, you know, besides the ticket request that you get a year. I wasn't on the level but you I was not a court Yeah. I was just a running you know, the air behind Fred Jackson all this guy. But you're a quarterback there,
you know, starting quarterback. You know, besides the ticket request, what did mean to you to go back to your hometown and you know, play for a team that you grew up you know, like Jim Brown, all those guys, Bernie Colesar, you know, all those guys that you grew up watching. What was that like going back to your hometown? Um, it was. It was a whirlwind, to be honest with you, because you know, I got there and I was a third quarterback and then Brandon
Weedon got hurt and somehow they chose me to start the next game. Like I jumped to the to the starter and won a wild game up in Minnesota, and it was just crazy. And then three weeks later, I tore my ACL and so it was kind of a bad ending to a good start. And then I was able to come back and be the start of the
next year. But obviously we were dealing with, you know, some other things, and and we had Johnny Menzel, and you know, there was people who in the organization who wanted him to play, whether you know, we were winning or not, you know, and and you know, so it was kind of bitter sweet because I wish, you know, it would have ended better. But I'll say, when you're a kid, like you said, you're growing up in Buffalo, Otis growing up in Michigan, like
when you're playing football in the backyard, that's who you're emulating. I was. I had a Bernie Coastar jersey of Browns jersey playing in the backyard, and so you know, that's literally the dream coming true. And you know, I do. I wish it would have ended better one hundred percent, but it's something that I'll always look back on super fondly because it literally was living the dream. And you know, we had some great games and it
just didn't work out. But um, like you said, other than the ticket request, it was everything that you could dream of as a kid, I'll go ahead to try. No, I'm just saying, so you play with with Tom Brady, right, And then that's what I was gonna ask Johnny Manzel was some simularities. What was the difference there, and like like that's that's you know, talk about those that experience. I mean, you know the thing Johnny and I were always were cool together. It was it
was fine. I think it was more of the hype got to everyone in that building, and you know, whether it was the owner, the GM whoever, it was like they couldn't refuse the hype. So they're texting down to the coaches on the field, Hey, you need to put Johnny in. I mean, we're winning. We're in the top of the AFC North in November. The Browns haven't done that in however many years, and they all they wanted to do was play him and and I get it. Look, i mean, the hype get gets ahold of us all. But it
was never anything between me and Johnny. I think that was more of like you know, the upper the management and those people wanted to just they're like, look, we drafted him in the first round. We got like he'll get in he'll go in there and we'll still stay winning. And you know, it didn't work out that way, and then I was gone that after that year. But it was I mean, look, I could write a
book of my experiences in the NFL. I've you know, I feel like I've seen it all, lived through it all, and that's unfortunate part of it as it is a business and sometimes there's things that are out of your control. And look, I didn't play great in a few games, but a lot of guys didn't play great in games and they didn't get pitched either,
So you know, it is, it is what it is. And um, you know, like we talked about before or that that resiliency handle that adversity, Um, you know, it just it fuels the fire to keep going. So there were texting down them, they got fined that that's true. That's true, get fine for texting and that is a great former.
Yeah, yeah, unbelievable. So I mean, look, I mean the thing that I've learned, as hard as it is even for you know, outside of football, there's always things that you can't control and they may drive you insane. But if you let those you know, affect you, then you know, that's usually, you know, not a good thing. So it is don't look you guys, you guys both have you know gone
through it. It's a business and and there's certain things that you know you wish you'd go back to what it was like in high school or even college, where it was about football and it didn't matter you know who thought this. It was the best person goes out there and play. And if it's not you, then it's not you. But at least you know that you gave it your best chance and someone who you know is better than he was getting an opportunity. So when you were in Cleveland, I might be was
did Drew come in or were you going crossover? Crossover? It was in Arizona, which was right before right you know, it was gonna be Drew and I out in Arizona and then they traded for Carson Palmer, and so that's kind of what led me going back to Cleveland because Drew had been with coach Arians and I think it was Indianapolis and then they traded for a Houson and I was like, look, I'm not I don't fit in here now.
You know, if it had been me and Drew and we were going to compete and and you know whoever was the best was going to play that that would be. But once they traded for Carson, Drew's the backup. Like you know, I remember trying to get traded and released, and that's how I was able to go back to Cleveland. So that that's the funny thing there. So you talk about that getting traded and really because there was one point in mind, I wanted to get to the release when I was
in San Francisco. I can't do it here. That's the thing you realize is sometimes getting released, as bad as it sound, is the best thing for you. And I remember having to go to the assistant gm um who's now the GM and Tampa Jason Lighte, who I had known from New England. He really wanted to keep me, I said, Jason, the head coach loves Drew, and he just traded you guys, just traded for Carson.
Like, I don't where am I going to fit in, And like the sooner that you can let me go and find a new team, the better off it's going to be for me. And thankfully he agreed, and that's how I was able to get to Cleveland. You know, in that offseason and work my way up to them. That first year where I, you know, started, I think it was the third game of the year. Unfortunately I got hurt. But you know, think about if I had never gone and pressed the issue, go through the entire training camp, it
doesn't work out. I never get to Cleveland, you know. So sometimes the thing that you realize is you you something that you think is bad is actually the best thing for you. Mmmmmmm. Now we at a lot of live lessons here Message Message We so we have a quarterback on and we always talk about we talked about this with Drew is have you been watching closely of
you know, our program now um? And then we talk about just a quarterback battle like it's that's the most stressful open public position and scrutinized position besides
the kicker according to ju Um. But but talk about people. Kickers are people, uh, you know, talk about our quarterback play as you've watched us currently this past few years, what's going on now when we have an open battle between two guys that haven't had that much game play time, but you know, talk about, you know, what's going through those guys heads? And then what would you like to see, you know, in a
quarterback as we kind of get this back on the right right track. Yeah, I mean I think, look, you know, I can go back and go through the years. Obviously Kurt followed me, did a tremendous job, you know, after him, there was a kind of a law and then Connor Cook took over and did a tremendous job, and then kind of a law and then Lurk he did a great job Lork. He was here with me in New England, and you know I always enjoyed watching him play
and then getting to know him. He was a great guy. And and then you know, two years ago I thought Peyton Thorne did a great job. Obviously he had the benefit of having you know, Kenneth Walker, you know, running all over the place. And last year, you know, it was a dip. I think you got to look for consistency, right, That's the thing that I've learned at quarterback. You know, you don't
always have to be the elite guy. You have to be the most consistent guy, and especially if you have great playmakers around you and you can hand the ball off. I heard you guys talking about the offensive line is going to be great. You know, you get a running back hand the ball off. You don't have to do everything. You know, you don't have to be Caleb wims you out and went out of games. And you know,
I think people were afraid of the game manager Moniker. But game managers win super Bowls, they win championships, especially if you have a great team around. So it'll be interesting to see. I think a quarterback competition. I've had to deal with it, whether it was at Michigan State just to be the backup, you know, my retro freshman year. I remember, you know, Dominic and Tally came in. He was a high and we had to you know, we battled it out, and you know that that's
sometimes the competition. They always say, you know, the cream rise at the top. Sometimes the competition, you know, it rises everybody's level and so hopefully you know that pushes them, you know, whoever ends up being the quarterback. And the one thing I'll say about quarterback competitions is once you pick the guy like, you have to support them. You have to say,
this is our guy. We're going to get behind them and give them every opportunity to succeed because I think you know, in this day and age. Everybody looks for that instant success and sometimes it happens, but sometimes, you know, you got to ride some bumps because, like you said, these guys don't have a lot of game experience, and there's nothing like game
experience. There's just you can't simulate it enough practice. There's no preseason games in college, and so you know, it's not always going to look pretty. I mean, some guys are just you know, they go to a team and it's a stacked team and they do their job and they look amazing. But you know, sometimes it's not going to look great and you just have to ride away then and go with who you think is the best fit
for the team. Man, look right, this is great. You know, I got a lot of feedback from parents that are watching the show. Players parents are are in the chat. They watch the show pretty religiously, which we're very grateful for. But any advice that you would give a current player on things that you did while in college that could prepare you for the league and things that maybe you wish you had a done that could helped you more, Um, yeah, I think you know. The like I said,
the work I'll never forget those workouts. With coach Manny, and I mean it's it's it's too bad that you are illegal now. By the way, I think that problem is this is, you know, those workouts turned you into a man. I mean, I'll never forget we're getting some of them. Someone getting downe with some of those workouts and crawling back to crack, crawling back to your bed. I was telling someone the story the other day. One of the summer workouts. Um, you know, it was
so hard that I went home passed out. I woke up the alarm clocks, alarm clocks at six thirty and I thought, oh my god, I'm gonna be like workouts. I got in my car, I'm driving down. I'm like, why are people getting lined up at ricks right now? If that that that was something that's real, that was real. And I think
those tough moments, I think you have to fight through them. You have to, you have to work your way through them, because if you don't, when a real comes along, like you're just gonna you're gonna crumb. And that's why I look, you know, like the transfer report and all this stuff now, they make it so easy for kids to just give up. Yeah, and look, there's it's it's I'm sure it's well intended. There's certain things like I remember Tyrone, Remember Tyrone Mackenzie, you know,
because he wanted he had to go take care of his mom. That's what it's there for, to go in. Like I don't like the place. You know, there's a guy ahead of me. How about beating him out? And I think, you know, it's such like a lost um idea of competition, like everyone wants to shy away from it. You know, competition is great, it makes you better. And I know it made me better. I know every day that I went there, I was competing for my job because I had good guys behind me and if I wasn't gonna do
my job well. And that's how it's been in my profession for the last fifteen years. Um. You know, football is a great meritocracy because whoever's doing it the best, that's who's gonna that's who's gonna be out there doing the job. And you know, so i'd say that's that's the one thing that I would instill not only to you know, college athletes, high school athletes, but parents who are parents their kids too. And actually I meant
to mention this who're talking about quarterbacks. I happen to know the latest quarterback commitment to Michigan State, m Henry Hasselback. And he goes through high school right up here by me, and actually, oddly enough, my son. We were taking my son to tour to school and he happened to be one of the kids who was given a tour. And I didn't know. I didn't know who he was dad and his last name, but I didn't know
if he played quarterback. I didn't know anything. And I remember texting his dad that night and I said, look, if my son is as well mannered and polite as your son is, you know, I just met him today, I'll be happy as a father. I just wanted you to know that. And then sure enough, here it is like a year later, and he's committed to Michigan Stame. I was how pumped I was for him, And you know, so I got to see him play. We went and saw him play a few games last year. So I'm excited for him
and his opportunity there. I would be remissed to mention that, but you know, you talk about parenting, like you know, there's Matt Hasselback coaching his son on the sideline and Matt's been through it all, played in the Super Bowl, and and you know he's over there and he's coaching them up.
And I think that's the one thing is be coachable. Um, you know, go to a place that you know, you believe in the coaches and what they're what they're coaching, and listen to them because if you you know, sign up to get four years, five years of your life to listen to these guys and then you know, trust them. And I had great coaches. Obviously we've talked about coach d Antonio, but Dave Warner was an incredible quarterback coach for me. And you know we still talk to this
day. And you know, those are relationships that you'll build for a lifetime. Yeah, absolutely, Brian. I know we got out of here about two questions. Um. I know we talked about you know what I did for the running through the old line? You you know you got that quarterback money. Now. I remember just hoping that the Quiznos guy would give me a free sub what do you do? But what what gifts did you get
for your old lineman in the league? Gifts I was I was hoping my dad would slip me at twenty when he left the game, so I could even McDonald's that night. I mean, I wasn't writing handwritten notes. So you know in the league, in the level league, what did you get
your old Um? You know the year that the years that I've been starters, I've I've always I always thought this was really cool Tom for them the away games, he would always cater in food from places, and so when I was in Cleveland, I would always do that for for the offensive line at the home and the away games. UM trying to think, I think, you know there were some yetti coolers in there right when when those were
coming out. Look, I never I wasn't making prime time money, so it was like what can I get these twelve guys and making something good? That was the coolest thing I thought with Tom was, you know, the night before the game, I'm gonna I'm gonna cater in the best food whatever city we're in, and me and the lineman are gonna share a meal, you know, like you know, it's like the meal before going into battle together. And I always thought that was a really cool thing. Smart,
that's offensive line perspective, that's extremely that's right, feeding those guys. That's the best thing. Like Jay, you said, he knows where his bread is buttered long. I think Jay, I think we lost he freeze. He always does it like at the end he's just dead so out. Yeah, I know we're getting to the end. But like I just was doing some math here. So we had in that picture. Was Drew in that picture with it with he wasn't in there was the year after he left.
Okay, the year after he left. Yeah, one year. I mean you have that's three super bowls? Yeah, two in this now, so two super Bowls. That's right, that's right, man, Brian. What do you miss the most? Uh, Michigan State Campus. I know it's flash back and bringing back members, but what do you miss the most? Um? I missed walking over from the Kellogg Center on game days, you know, going by the Spartan statue. I missed the energy on Saturdays.
I mean obviously, you know we always played in front of great crowds and at our at our games, and and you know my senior year year junior, you know we were we were doing We're rolling, so we had some big games and you know those are the things I miss a lot. I think the most that I miss is the relationships that I made and and like we were saying before, you know, I haven't you know, nine teams in fifteen years. It makes hard to get back and visit. Um,
you know, so I'm excited. My son the other day someone asked, you know, hey, if you want to go to college, where you want to go without hesitation? He said, Michigan State And he's never even been there. So I can't wait to take them and see everything. And he loves the Spartans and so, um, you know, once I'm once I'm retired and have time, you know, we'll be up there a bunch and visit and see some games and more importantly see the faces like you guys
that I haven't seen in a long time. So yeah, back man, Bryan. So when you're done, when you finally decided to hang them up after eighty years, what what's what will be next for Brian Horror? What do you want to do? Yeah, I mean it's a good question. I've thought a lot about it, especially in the last few years. I mean, I could end up doing something like you guys are doing. I've I've made a lot of connections with a lot of people over the years.
Um, even me and my buddy Jacoby Brissette, who UM he's like my little brother. I was his backup in Indianapolis that year, but we had known each other, you know, both being in New England. You know, we've even played around with the idea of doing a podcast, and you know we've we've seen a lot in our career, so you know, it could always go that route, the media route. The one thing I know I'm not going to do is coach. Um. I see the hours those guys put in. Um, and you know, like we said, I've
played football for fifteen years. The last thing I want to do is go coach. So UM, I can tell you that that's probably not going to be on the list, but we'll see. I mean that's the one thing, you know, especially for me getting to the point where I'm at now,
it's it's something that you got to think about. And UM, I try to pick the brains of guys who are you know I've played with that are retired and you know, see what they're doing, what they did to keep themselves busy, and um, you know, I do plan on being able to come back and visit Michigan State and see a few games, so um, you know we'll see I think, um, you know after this year, really revisit that and think about you know what that that next step
is absolutely man. We look forward to you having some time to come out and see us. Man in person, don't be going out taking my job. Who might have open? You might have an opening. I don't have the personality like you. You and Jacobe. Oh my goodness. That Yeah, that's that'd be a good one. Man. No, thank you for coming on the show. Man, enjoy the time. I love to catch up with you in person making up. I don't really captives. I may
just let us man. I know some people that have tickets there on the show. Yeah, we had to bring back the honorary captains. Many away from it. They went away from it. So we years as far as game a few years ago. So he did he did? You go? Did bring it back? You too? Man, appreciate your hor before you go inside. Joe. You like my bet cut Green Brian Hoyer, everyone, Hey, what I mean? This guy's well, he could write a
book. Absolutely, absolutely great. One of my favorite interviews. You know, Horriors, a dude, you know, been through it, been through you know, like worked his way like a true worker earned whatever that he was, you know, whatever position he said, he totally earned it. And we we looked at that picture of that quarterback room and it's days, day and age. You have that quarterbacks from with Kirk Cousin, Nick Foles, Brian Horrier, people to transferred left and right. He decided he stuck
it out. He won and look at him. Now, good for him, Well, I mean did transfer. But yeah, but to your point, like it's so quick now where it's like I hit that portal right now? Yeah, yeah, No, that's a great one. Man. We've
had a lot of war stories, man, collectively together. I think that's why this was a great, the best interview because in real time we flashed back to those stories like I get I get PTSD, Like when you miss a workout man with coach Manny, like pushing that slan was the absolute worst and I don't know, in the morning and you pushing that toll he comes out of his office, like you see you multiple groups working out and you
still push the worst thing when you see those group working out and you're the one out there and they're all looking at you like, damn, what he do? What do you do stay punishment? Everybody has pst TV from that man PTSD from that UM coach many workouts. But like I said, man, it's a different it's a kind of gentler football right now, which is it's all right, right, says everybody. Man a great interview. Guys.
You know Brian Owyer, I think, uh, you know we could talk football with him at at at a level that you know, I mean, getting him and Drew standing together. Man. Just I mean because they both won Super Bowls with Tom Brady, which is crazy. But yeah, just just all right, Well, look all spoiled. This is Sparta MSU fans. Are all these good people have been coming on spoiled and you're not even hitting the light button. I've gotter hit that light. Come on now,
we need that light. Why why is it so difficult to find the light? But right, they all spoiled because it's spoiled. Oh man, we get lights and we get tickets. Look, guys, before producer Tony yells at us, we're eleven minutes over. So we got a right you know, which is which is good? Hey, great video to the production team in the back. Tony els man, that was a great video. Had my you know, skin my guy had the goosebumps and that was great.
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