Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss | Nancy Mace

This fucking guy. Hello, my little honey crisps. Welcome to This Fucking Guy, a podcast about self-care if self-care is one long scream into the void. Here is where we use expletives and alcohol to emotionally process the creeps, jerks, and p-words that compose the shitty elevator music of our lives. I'm the new Duke of York, Ren Martinez. And I've always been Fergie-licious, Ginger Golub. Fergie-licious, def.

definition make the boys go loco why do i know that um because it here i think i just talked about this recently about how the 2000s was the dumbest music has ever been and that's why fergie really is representative of 2000s music yeah how come every time I come around that London London bridge gonna go down it's such a bad song

But I will be on my deathbed as, like, the light is fading from my eyes. And it will be the last thing I think of is London Bridge by Fergie. Dad, we're not talking about Sarah Ferguson, who used to be married to Prince. Drew, there's another one. That's the joke. I can't do a British accent and try to sing for a key. I'm sorry, y'all. I don't have that in me. We can only walk or chew gum.

Let me hold on real quick. I have a baby who's supposed to be going to bed and I need to say goodnight to her. Let me see if she'll come say goodnight to everybody. Hold on. Okay, I believe Reek is bringing her up. I've been calling her Momo lately because that's peach in Japanese. Oh. And so she's my little Momo, my little peach. Little peach. She is very peachy with little peachy cheeks. She is.

I showed a picture of her to one of our colleagues the other day and was like, who is this? This is Ren's daughter, isn't it? She does look a lot like me. She looks like a little tiny tan Ren Martinez. Yeah. Well, it's so funny because she's definitely this lovely olive skin tone, and then...

Oh, you're going to sleep in my bed? Yeah. Well, why don't you come here? I want you to sing a song real quick. Why don't you come here and see Auntie Ginger? Come here, Momo. Come on. It's going to be so exciting. I know she can't hear me. Why am I talking right now? All right. Hello. So, Momo, what movie have you been watching? Have you been watching Beauty and the Beast? Yeah. Can you sing the song with me? Tale as old as time.

Don't touch, don't touch. True as it can be. There'll be even friends. Then somebody bends unexpectedly. Just a little change. Small to say the least. Both a little scared. Neither one prepared. Beauty and the Beast. Yay! Momo, you know the words better than I do. I know. You look at this microphone, and you're like, ooh, I want to be all up in it. Hi. Yeah, it's Lindsay. Say hi. How do you do?

I hope you have sweet, sweet dreams. Okay. Good night. Good night. Good night. Oh, what a nice kiss. I love you. I love you. Bye, Momo Bean. And, of course, bye. go to bed she goes straight into my bed so is gonna have to pry her out as we continue to record Just use slightly less profanity. Well, now that all of my troubles have been completely wiped out of my mind by that fucking cuteness.

Isn't it cute? Oh my God, I'm going to die. I mean, is there anything you want to scream into the void or are you just happy? And can I ruin that for you? It's a fun thing. It's going to be a fun thing. We don't have those ever. Excellent.

So do you remember two years ago when a billionaire's hubris resulted in him and several other rich people imploding at the bottom of the ocean? Sure do. Yeah. So. After something like that happens, various government agencies go, huh, what's up with that? Yeah. Yeah. And look into it. And one of those was the National Transportation Safety Board.

Seems correct. Which recently released its findings of its investigation into the implosion of the Titans. Submersible. Now, because this isn't like, this is not criminal proceedings. This is the deep. Fact-finding kind of thing. You might still be hearing my child giggling in the background. Arguing about the various merits of going to bed. Like every night.

So they, again, this is not a criminal thing, but part of this is because of the various entities involved. They... Bye! They... try to keep it very like confidential so they redact not only the people that they interview but even the people doing the interviewing right and so they try really hard to like keep because it's all about the facts it's not about who they talk to right

So part of this is they released the report and they also released like the actual content of these like depositions and interviews. So this is from a redacted interviewee. The interviewer goes, so how did you get yourself started into submersible operations? Redacted. Well, I'm sure you're familiar with my film Titanic. Bold of them to interview Kate Winslet for this. So, hmm. Wonder who that could be. Could be anyone. Could be.

So yeah, that's definitely, allegedly, definitely James Cameron, the director of Titanic, who apparently is like, the reason he made the movie Titanic is because he's super into the Titanic insubmersibles. Like he researched... how to make his own submersible so he could research the Titanic. And I think basically decided he had to make a film to justify him researching the Titanic. I'm fairly certain that is accurate. Yes.

I did get to, as a child, as a child whose parents worked in public broadcasting, maybe, somehow ended up getting to meet Robert Ballard, who discovered the Titanic wreckage. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that was, I don't remember anything about it because I was like six. Neat. What a neat thing. What a neat thing. Also, my mini scream into the void is that I need our listeners to know that this past weekend, you forced me to do the impossible, which is to find an outfit that could go.

From child's birthday party to clown burlesque show seamlessly. It was so good, Ren. We have not talked enough about how weirdly good that clown burlesque show was. I was at one point maybe moved to tears. Well, the way it was set up for me was deeply disturbing. And then later it made sense because you came to the birthday party and was like, hey, here to hang out at the playground. And then you were like, oh.

Our mutual friend is coming over to babysit the child so DJ and I can go to this clown burlesque show. And I'm like, that's delightful. I love your makeup, blah, blah, blah, blah. Because this mutual friend often... you know, helps you out with the Eldritch Horror, whom I love so much. We love him so much. He is an Eldritch Horror. So...

You told me that. I said, what a lovely thing. I know that this person helps you out with date nights. Sounds great. And then later that evening, you sent like, wish y'all were here having a great time at the clown titty show with you. DJ and DJ's parents. Yep. My mother-in-law wanted to see clown titties so bad. And wherever my mother-in-law goes, her husband follows her. I had to take a photo. I will send it to you at some point.

that was like a wide-angle fisheye lens, basically a panorama, that I had to send to my brother-in-law to prove to him that even while watching... A woman dressed as Ronald McDonald twerking while wearing Big Mac wrapper pasties. Oh, my God. Beautiful. Love it. My father-in-law's face was just completely impassable. Not a smile past his lips.

He's not like one of the cool 80 year old grandpas going to the burlesque show. He would rather be at home organizing his train sets. I definitely did tell him though. I mean, he's in his 80s, and he looks like he's in his 80s, and I did tell him when we were dropping them off to get good seats by telling the host that it was his last chance to see good titties.

he thought that that was funnier than anything at the show so at least i'm doing something right didn't oh boy well on that note on that note i guess

Since we can't have titties right now, we'll have therapy instead. All right, Gingy. Why don't you tell me about this fucking guy? This fucking guy who immediately before recording, you said, I don't know who that is. Hold on a second. Because I don't. I was just trying to title the episode and I know their name. Nancy Ruth Mace, Ren Martinez's Wario, was born...

was born on December 4th, 1977 at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. I'm going to really quickly just turn my camera around because I didn't realize, like, admittedly, this is her freshman legislator. Uh, face. Okay. She's not not pretty. Um. Oh, yeah. She's she's a good looking woman. And in this photo, she looks a lot like you. I think she does. I definitely had that.

have that haircut um yeah i don't usually have a better haircut than she's doing now she sort of got like mar-a-lago yassified um yeah it was it was a choice um Yeah, Nancy Ruth May's picture at December 4th, 1977, Fort Bragg, North Carolina. In 1999, skipping way ahead, there was too much to go into the childhood, Mace became the first woman to graduate from the Corps of Cadets program at the Citadel Military College of South Carolina, which was...

led at the time by her father, Emery Mace, the commandant of the cadets. I mean, that does help. I mean, way to break a glass ceiling that your dad put in place. Right? It's one of those things where it's like good for her, but I feel like... There were lots of other qualified female potential graduates that like had their father's bin. How do you feel about somebody who breaks the glass ceiling by being a Nepo baby?

I feel great about it. Mixed feelings. I don't really feel great about it, but there we are. In 2004, she earned a master's degree in journalism and mass communication from the University of Georgia. And in the late 2000s, she bopped around some local political news websites and started her own PR firm. in 2008. Finally, she decided to launch herself fully into the political sphere when she ran in the Republican primary for Senate in 2014. She received

6.2% of the vote in the primary election behind four other candidates, including Lindsey Graham. Wow. But it gave her a taste for the spotlight. I will say she is prettier than Lindsey Graham. She is prettier than Lindsey Graham. She's like less annoying to listen to usually. Isn't Lindsey Graham the one that has little little ladybugs on his butthole?

Yes, he is. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. According to DC's Grindr. According to DC Grindr and his Meemaw. After winning... a runoff primary mace won a 2018 special election for the south carolina state house and then kept her seat in the general election Just one year into her state representative tenure, she announced she would be seeking the Republican nomination for South Carolina's first congressional district at, like, the federal level.

Mace focused her campaign on banning offshore drilling off of South Carolina's coast and restoring South Carolina's lower country's economy. Good things. Objective good things. I'm all for it stopping offshore drilling. Yeah, reading her Wikipedia was really unexperienced for me. And before I got to the recent stuff, I was like, is she good? Yeah, it's...

I mean, again, she sounds like somebody who maybe is like, we can ban offshore drilling because even though the sun goes down, we can still use solar power. Winsome. Winsome. Good God.

I don't have the energy to do a Winsome Earl Sears episode. If God forbid she gets elected as Virginia governor, I will. But hopefully that's a distant possibility. We'll see. Fingers crossed. Yeah, Nancy Mace, like, I don't get- into this a whole lot she does a whole lot with the environment uh with offshore drilling in south carolina she's like definitely pretty good on climate change in the environment

She does a lot with, like, banning animal testing and animal abuse. Okay. Okay. What was the other thing? I don't remember what the other thing was. There are, like... Some things that she's got good opinions about. I will have you keep that in the back of your mind as I read everything else. Is she like that one clip from Community, which is... I can excuse racism, but I draw the line at animal cruelty. Yes. Oh, no. The living personification of a community meme. Nancy Mace won.

her congressional election and she assumed office on january 3rd 2021 and had a weird fucking first week in office Yeah. Yeah. Mace was apparently bunkered down during the. We are about to get into it. She was apparently so concerned by the hostile atmosphere that Trump was generating in DC that she sent her children back home to South Carolina before the electoral college vote. And after... Um...

Well, during, it says after in my script, during the 2021 U.S. Capitol attack, Mace, who had worked closely with Trump in PR during his 2016 campaign, told CBS from literally under her fucking destiny. at the Capitol. I'm begging the president to get off of Twitter. Mace was one of seven Republicans who publicly refused to support their colleagues' efforts to challenge the results of the 2020 presidential election on January 6, 2021. I mean, she was three days into her job.

She was three days into her job. She's still onboarding. She's still getting her insurance set up. She doesn't know where all the bathrooms are yet. The only reason she knows is because she had to hide out in the bathroom. More on that later.

These seven signed a letter that essentially said that Trump is a very brave man and maybe he was right about the election and it was stolen, but they are very sorry because they did not feel Congress could influence the election's outcome. Okay, that's a little less. Yeah. Ultimately, Mace did not vote to impeach Trump, but she criticized him for his role in the Capitol attack.

And because he's a petty bitch, Trump endorsed Mace's opponent in the 2022 Republican primary for her congressional seat, but she still won. Have you ever considered that maybe this alternate timeline we're in is just a really weird episode of like Bravo's The Real Housewives? It feels like that, huh?

Yeah, I mean, there's more like genocide and death and stuff, but it really does feel like everyone's on the couch with, uh, what is the name? Andy, whatever. Andy Cohen. Andy Cohen screaming at each other.

throwing drinks across the table yeah there's an entire uh section in my script called mean girl drama so you are going to not feel any less like that so the first thing you gotta know about nancy mace is that her staffers hate her allegedly allegedly allegedly And the second thing you gotta know about Nancy Mace is that she needs to be on camera at all times or else she will die. She's the Regina George of Congress. Yeah.

Many former staffers have described her approach to her office as focused on gaining media attention no matter what and have a... many of her political actions to a desire to make headlines and appear on TV programs. Staffers specifically recalled her trying to make the January 6th Capitol attack... Oh, my God. Allegedly. According to sources that we will post on our website.

Legislative staffers for MACE described her efforts to attract media attention as hampering her legislative agenda and working relationships with other members of Congress. She has no friends, allegedly. An internal staff handbook written by Mays, first, straight off the bat. That seems wild. But an internal staff handbook that she wrote goes hard on public image and media attention.

The handbook required communication staffers to book her on national TV outlets at least one to three times a day and on local TV channels at least six times per week. Girl. Girl. You are not getting any work done. You're like a non-profit director. That handbook was conspicuously more detailed in its descriptions of communications staff compared to legislative and constituent-focused staff positions. Oh. It's almost as if she doesn't give a shit.

Mesa's office experienced high levels of turnover, including a turnover of all staff between November 2023 and February 2024. All of them. Wow.

So let's talk about some of Nancy's actual positions and beliefs, other than the, like, ones that we have already hit on that I'm not going to go into. Other than it's all about me. Yeah, I want to start with something light, though. So how about abortion? Oh. While working in the State House of Representatives, Mace successfully advocated for rape and incest exemptions in a bill for a six-week abortion ban that passed the South Carolina State House.

In the process, she revealed that she had been raped at age 16 by a classmate. She said she opposes abortion but does not believe the government has the right to deny the procedure to a victim of rape or incest. prison and also opposed offshore drilling I don't know why I included that here so at that point like I don't agree with her on abortion overall, but, like, she's standing by her morals. She is consistent. Here's, okay. So, like, it's one of those...

Here's kind of the slippery slope with that. It's kind of this... She is the slippery slope with that. I'm not done. Well, so with the abortion, with the rape and incest exemption, right? When you hear people... Who are, like, pro-choice. And they talk about, like, well, you've got to at least consider rape and incest, right? And so when you have somebody, clearly like Nancy, who's like, guys, like...

clearly I oppose abortion, but we got to have exemptions for rape and incest because that's cruel. People tend to laud that. And I understand why, right? Because there is like an inherent compassion there of like, they that sucks right like that's not that's a shitty situation but from my perspective i actually prefer folks who oppose abortion

across the board no exemptions because i feel like they're far closer to actually believing in the pro-life ideals that they that they say they are because when you're somebody Who is anti-choice, but will allow exemptions for rape and incest. What you're saying is, I don't care for the way you've had sex willingly. And I need you to suffer.

Because of that, I needed to bring a child into a situation to that is going to suffer because you are suffering, because you had sex in a way I didn't like. So that to me. It's real fucking shitty, Nancy. Yeah. If it makes you feel better about her, once she got to the U.S. House of Representatives in 2021, she co-sponsored the Life at Conception Act, which sought to recognize a fertilized egg as a person with equal protections under the 14th Amendment.

meant, which I guess means they can vote, and establish a nationwide abortion ban. Well, that doesn't make me feel better, but at least it's internally consistent, Nancy. But then, speaking of internally consistent, Mayce was among a handful of Republican resentments. representatives who did not sign on to an amicus brief to overturn Roe v. Wade and criticize states enacting abortion bans without exceptions for in the wake of the Supreme Court overturning of Roe v. Wade in 2022.

What the? What? What? And then, in June 2021, Mace was one of 26 Republicans to vote for the Equal Access to Contraception for Veterans Act. Okay. And then in January 2023, she introduced the Standing with Moms Act, which would create a website, life.gov. That would link women to crisis pregnancy centers. Because I guess you can't fucking Google that. No. Government sponsored.

lying i mean government-sponsored lying is basically the government but um nancy no nancy don't do that nancy fucking all over the place

Already this feels like she's doing the fucking cha-cha slide with her politics. Slide to the left. Slide to the right. LGBTQ this time. LGBTQ this time. You really can't do that to the... To the patter of the cha-cha slide. Everybody clap your hands. Anyway. In 2021, the Washington Examiner wrote that Mace, quote, is a supporter of both religious liberty and gay marriage. Later that year, she told the examiner, I strongly support LGBTQ rights inequality. No one should be discriminated against.

And she initially stood by that. She was the lone Republican to sponsor legislation establishing a center for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer veterans within the Department of Veterans Affairs. Love it. Iconic. Love that. In July 2022, Mace was among 47 Republican representatives who voted in favor of the Respect for Marriage Act, which protects existing same-sex and interracial marriages under federal law.

She later said, if gay couples want to be as happily or miserably married as straight couples, more power to them. Trust me, I've tried it more than once. This lady confuses me so much. So much. So much. Because sometimes she's safe and I'm like, why Republican, though? Well, um...

Around and after the 2024 presidential campaign, she took a lay of the land and a lay at what was going to get her on TV. And on November... 18th, 2024, Mace introduced a resolution to prohibit members, officers and employees of the House of Representatives from using single sex facilities like restrooms, locker rooms and changing rooms in legislative office buildings. that don't correspond to their biological sex. Are you looking at my pants, Nancy? Come on.

Two days later, she introduced the Protecting Women's Private Spaces Act, which went beyond her prior resolution and tried to limit bathroom access at every federal facility. She specified in her press release that the bill was intended for transgender women and said in an interview that newly elected Delaware Representative Sarah McBride was absolutely the target of her bathroom resolution.

that big oh my god have you ever did you ever watch the youtube shorts um most popular girls in school that were the barbies you ask me this once a month and then show it to me anyway It's been a long time since I've brought it up. Thank you. But this is definitely like, what are you doing in our bathroom? Who are you? Who the fuck are you? I asked you first. I asked you second. This is Mackenzie Zales, head cheerleader, part-time model. I'm Deandra. I'm new.

And in this scenario, I guess Nancy thinks she's Mackenzie Zales, head cheerleader, part-time model. Yeah, Mackenzie Zales, a head cheerleader part-time model, described Sarah McBride as a biological man trying to force himself into women's spaces and as a guy in a skirt. Later following this up by saying, it's offensive that a man in a skirt thinks that he's my equal. I think she's your better, Nancy. I love, I love how Nancy was like, um.

Y'all, I'm specifically talking about transgender women. I could give less of a shit of trans men entering men's restrooms. They're fine. Honestly, they're... fine um but like i don't care it's this one bitch who's getting a better grade than me in geometry mace's former communications director even described this pivot as a ploy for media attention yeah

Yeah. As some trans activists were protesting her bills, Mace referred to them using an anti-transgender slur, resulting in her posts on some social media being flagged for hate speech. Then at a House Oversight Committee hearing in February 2025, Mace again used the slur. When confronted, she repeated the word three times, saying, I don't really care. I have never seen somebody who cared more. What a piece of shit.

yeah piece of shit um she also began calling for books with lgbtq themes to be banned from schools and libraries she repeatedly accused queer couples of of grooming children no idea where the fuck that came from and has repeatedly referred to the Charleston County Public Library as a grooming center. Sorry. I've been to grooming centers in local pet smarts. They're not. Those are different. Nancy, shut the fuck up.

Shut the fuck up, Nancy. In March 2025, Mace criticized U.S. Senator Alyssa Slotkin for reading aloud from a children's book about tolerance, saying, the left gets mad when we call them groomers, but then we continue to do this. What? I think. No, I read that quote wrong. The left gets mad when we call them groomers, but then continue to do this.

Because tolerance is the same thing as pedophilia. At a doge hearing in May 2025, Mace accused the CEO of the National Women's Law Center of Sexual Grooming saying, I didn't come here to play with an ideology hellbent on erasing women and grooming children. That's what you all are, your groomers. God, shut up! That's, yeah, that's gonna be... Shut up! Yeah.

Mace's history with Islamophobia is very similar to her history with the LGBTQ community, which is to say she starts off reasonable and then takes a hard, right, when she thinks it's going to help her. Like in November 2021, Mace criticized Lauren Boebert for her anti-Muslim comments about Ilhan Omar. But then in 2025, Mace supported President Trump's proposal to send U.S. troops to take control of the Gaza Strip and remove Palestinians from the territory. Fuck you, Nancy Mace.

And, of course, following the victory of Sorad Mamdani in the 2025 Bihar Primary. Love him. Good looking man. Mmm. When he told Andrew Cuomo to his fucking face, what I lack in experience, I make up for in integrity? Mm-hmm. Fuck. Yes. Yes. But anyway, yeah, after the primary, Mace posted a photo of Mamdani in traditional Muslim robes with the caption, after 9-11, we said, never forget. I think, sadly, we have forgotten. Ren's face. You know what?

Every time I see a Christian, I'm going to Photoshop them wearing night scarb with a giant cross on it, be like crusader gear and be like, we were told to never forget. But it seems like we have forgotten. Seems like we have forgotten. And she wasn't done being a bitch.

Which, okay, so it can be hard for me to talk about Nancy Mace in a way that doesn't feel really gendered, but please know that I have seen every ounce of cattiness that I am going to point at her and attribute to her. in the nasty little macroaggressions of John Kennedy and Lindsey Graham and J.D. Vance, among many others, so please keep that in mind as I tell you about the Mean Girl drama. Mean girl drama. The real Housewives of Congress. Like I said, Nancy Mace's staff fucking hates her.

Allegedly. On October 2nd, 2023, the House of Representatives passed a cybersecurity bill that she introduced and was titled the Mace Act. The legislative staff named the bill after her as a joke about Nancy Mace's ego. And it was intended to modernize federal cybersecurity requirements. The bill passed under her close ally and bestie, Speaker Kevin McCarthy. Literally the next day.

Mace voted in favor of removing Kevin McCarthy from his position as Speaker of the House. Mace described him to the media as a loser who was bored and doesn't know what to do with himself. She publicly stated that she had never liked him since she had joined Congress. Baffling district Republicans who questioned why she had turned on her ally of like a day ago.

Oh my god, this is some hot... popular kid like is is is like in a group science project with a nerd and they discover they actually like get along and they like do really well in the science project but then someone's like oh my god like You liked the nerd? And they're like, no. And they push him in a mud puddle. And they're like, loser. Yep. Yeah. That's like the she's all that plot.

Except that would mean that the girl in She's All That is Kevin McCarthy. Nancy Mace is not all that. Oh, my God. And Nancy Mace would be Freddie Prinze Jr., I guess. I guess. In May 2024, in response to South Carolina, I really like this one. In response to South Carolina Governor Kristi Noem admitting to shooting her pet dog, Mace co-founded the Congressional Dog Lovers Caucus.

Okay, that's some petty shit I can get behind. That was really good. In 2024, Mace endorsed Trump in the 2024 Republican primaries over Nikki Haley, who had supported Mace in the 22... 2022 primary, you know, that time that Donald Trump was supporting the person running against her. Wow. Yeah. In August 2024, Nancy Mace was in the news for intentionally and repeatedly mispronouncing Kamala Harris's name while on CNN. When she was corrected by other CNN panelists, Mace claimed...

I will say Kamala's name any way that I want to. They know it was intentional because she said it right the first time and then corrected herself. Yeah.

This one is probably the stupidest one of all. In December 2024, Mace alleged that foster youth activist and children's advocate James McIntyre... threatened and physically assaulted her during a handshake at a youth advocacy event. In court documents, May stated that McIntyre began to aggressively, in an exaggerated manner, shake her arm up and down in a handshaking motion with her... Arm flailing for about three to five seconds.

According to Mace, McIntyre had said, trans youth deserve advocacy. And Mace described herself as being in shock and intimidated. Nancy, what you're describing is a handshake. This man gives her what might have been a goofy ass handshake. She is clutching those pearls. My goodness. At least three witnesses disputed Mace's description of the handshake, saying that they... nothing but a normal routine handshake. Mace refused paramedic's assistance. He called? Yeah.

Somebody called the paramedics. I can't say for sure it was Nancy. But she, like, I don't know what they would have done. Christ. Can you imagine? Can you imagine calling the paramedics? Oh, it gets worse. Because someone shook your hand. Aggressively? For three to five seconds. Three to five seconds. Yeah, so she refused paramedics' assistance, but stated in court documents that she felt...

Pain in her wrists, arm, and armpit slash shoulder due to the incident. What do you have, bird bones? Shut the fuck up, Nancy. Jesus Christ. My bones of glass. McIntyre was... arrested on charges of assaulting a government official and was jailed overnight. What? On April 1st, 2025, the U.S. attorney involved dropped the charges, and shortly after, Mace quietly withdrew from the Congressional Caucus on Foster Youth. I mean... Yeah.

You tried to arrest someone for a handshake? That's like me threatening to kill you for having a lackluster wave across a room. What are you doing? doing nancy and i tell you you gotta stop doing that you gotta stop doing that to me i'm doing my best it's really funny because a lot of people when we get into this mean petty petty shit

A lot of people do reference high school, which I think that's really fair, particularly like media impressions of high school. Like we all saw the Brat Pack movies, you know, whatever. But like my high school experience didn't really have a lot of clicks. Like it wasn't.

clicky obviously there was like kids that were popular and kids that were less popular but i didn't see like roving packs of jocks pushing people into lockers that wasn't really my experience but now but i have worked in an office setting And those are the pettiest gossipy bitches that you'll ever meet. And I'm using gender neutral bitches here. Okay. Yes. Like the most like.

talking at the water cooler shit like being like what the fuck what the fuck is that person wearing did you hear about this i mean and on the one hand i think we as human beings are our petty little gossips and sometimes we need to like express ourselves in this very hierarchical way of being the fucking pick a little talk ladies from music man right

Like we're all little hens in a little yard going, you know, we all kind of have to indulge in that a little while. Yes. But we also shouldn't get people arrested for normal gestures of greeting. You want to hear about her being a bitch to Ilhan Omar? Who hasn't been a bitch to Ilhan Omar? Honestly, it seems like a Republican rite of passage. After the Charlie Kirk shooting in September, Nancy proposed a measure that would have effectively censured...

Representative Ilyana Omar and removed the Democratic Congresswoman from her committee positions. Mace tweeted a planned resolution, quote, to strip Omar of her committee assignments after her... disgraceful remarks on Charlie Kirk's assassination. What were those disgraceful remarks? Well, Omar spoke with Mehdi Hassan on Zeteo. I don't know what either of those are. uh the day after kirk's death saying all i could think about was his wife his children that image is going to live forever

The congresswoman also said Kirk had a few political opinions she disagreed with, saying, Charlie was someone who once said guns saved lives after a school shooting. Charlie was someone who was willing to debate and downplay the death of George Floyd at the hands of many. Minneapolis police. There's nothing more effed up than to completely pretend his words and actions have not been recorded and in existence for the last decade or so. I mean...

Presumably that's what Mace was on about. She didn't actually include any quotes in the actual resolution. I think that is such a nuanced, good political response. From somebody who has to give good, nuanced political responses to shit. Yep. The measure failed in a 214 to 213 vote. What the f***? Fuck, y'all. Let's look at the Twitter back and forth between Mace and Omar, because that lives forever. You'll know who I'm quoting based on the voice. Is there going to be a lot of vocal fry?

If you celebrate murder, maybe Somalia can take you back. I know you aren't well or smart, but I hope someone can explain to you that there isn't a correlation between my committee assignments and deportation. We would love to see you deported back to Somalia next. We would love to see you get the help you need next. You belong in rehab, not Congress.

Mace has since turned on Florida's Corey Mills for being one of the four Republicans who opposed her in the Ileana Marthing. She accused him of stifling free speech by standing against her and said that he... threatened her via text. No details given.

Mills clapped back saying, this is typical. I'm sorry, but like, I respect Nancy. I like Nancy. I've always supported Nancy, but she's upset that she didn't get this one thing passed because she has some back and forth with Ileon that has nothing to do with me.

guys like man keep me out of this yeah all right here's the the thorniest of the personal relationship stuff crack open a beer if you haven't already Nancy Mace has been married twice and has two children from her second marriage In 2022, Mace got engaged to Patrick Bryant and broke off that engagement a year later in 2023 after reportedly finding him on a dating app, which he denied. And also, why are you on a dating app, Nancy?

In February 2025, she gave a speech in the House of Representatives where she accused Bryant and three other men of physical abuse, rape, and sexual misconduct against her and other women. which was apparently, allegedly, allegedly, the first time Brian and the other men had heard about it. I'm sorry. He gave this in a congressional? Yep. Hearing? Yep. Are these Congress people?

To excerpt from The Guardian, in the 50-minute presentation, Mace named and displayed photos of the alleged abusers. Mace described how, in November 2023, she... quote, accidentally uncovered some of the most heinous crimes against women imaginable, including non-consensual photos, non-consensual videos of women and underage girls.

Mace's remarks took place after House votes and when most legislators had left. Mace's mother, three of her fellow Republican representatives, and a dozen supporters were in attendance for the speech. Quote, you've booked yourself a one-way ticket to hell, Mace said in reference to the four men. It's nonstop. There are no connections. So I and all of your victims can watch you rot into eternity.

All of the men strongly denied her accusations, with her ex-fiancee adding that she had notably voiced them only in Congress in order to shield herself from the legal liability to which she would have been exposed had she made those accusations anywhere else. Whoa. They're just people. The following month, one of the men Mace accused Brian Musgrave sued her for defamation. According to NBC News.

When she turned over the video evidence to, quote, law enforcement, May said she was told that she would be investigated. Or she was told that she would be investigated, essentially. Women who come forward in your system are treated like criminals under your leadership in your system and on your watch. Attorney General Allen Wilson, you know there were deliberate delays in an investigation in what I turned over, Mace said.

228 days of delay. And you know this, 228 days of delay, that's seven months, two weeks, and four days of delay to investigate. Once again, today you are kicking the can down the road like you always do. Again, excerpting from The Guardian. I'm using a lot of quotes to protect my ass.

Mace also criticized the South Carolina Attorney General, Alan Wilson, for failing to prosecute the men after she presented evidence to authorities. Quote, being provided clear-cut and dry evidence, including video photos and witnesses, Mace asked. In a statement following Mesa's speech, Wilson's office called the Congresswoman's accusations against the Attorney General categorically false and politically motivated.

Wilson and Mace are both considering running for South Carolina governor in 2026. Quote, at this time, our office has not received any reports or requests for assistance from any law enforcement or prosecution agencies regarding these matters, the statement said. The attorney general's office also claimed Mace never approached Wilson with allegations, despite the two attending several events together and Mace having his personal phone number.

Mace's remarks on the House floor are protected under what is known as the speech or debate clause, which prevents legislators from being prosecuted or sued for remarks and actions during legislative actions. Wow. After she made these allegations, local law enforcement said that they would look into it. I can't...

not find the status of the investigation. It doesn't appear that any of these dudes have been charged, but I can confirm that Bryant, who's the ex-fiancee, tried to sue Nancy for another... And another unnamed alleged victim for defamation. And then he got sanctioned by the courts for improper use of the legal system, which is interesting. Now, I don't not believe Nancy Mace, but if this did happen, she disclosed it in the shadiest way humanly possible.

If nothing else, her failure to understand that anything is bad until it personally affects her is frustrating. So...

Speaking of failing to understand things until they affect her, Mace added language to a subpoena issued by the House Oversight Committee in July 2025 to compel the release of the Epstein files. If you've heard of her recently, this is why. I've seen it mentioned in a couple of places that she sponsored legislation to compel the release of the files, but I looked at all the legislation and I cannot find her name on it, but maybe I'm looking wrong.

She did, however, vote as a member of the House Judiciary Subcommittee, I think, to subpoena the file. So that is good. On September 2nd, Mace left the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee's closed-door meeting with Epstein victims early after having, quote, a very difficult time listening to their stories. she was visibly in tears as reporters photographed her later she posted quote

Full blown panic attack, sweating, hyperventilating, shaking. I can't breathe in response to the testimony. I hope that I am continuing to do the voice so that, you know, I'm quoting her, but not disrespectfully when it. Doesn't need to be quoted disrespectfully. I know this and I love you. Okay.

Mace also tweeted, I feel the immense pain of how hard all the victims are fighting for themselves because they we know absolutely no one will fight for us. God bless all survivors. It was in all caps. And that's why I said it that way. Oh, all of these are tweets. OK. Yes. In the September 4th press release, Mace wrote a cold, dark cell. Prince Andrew in handcuffs. This is an image sending the right message, said Congresswoman Mace. She is.

She's writing this, but she's also quoting herself. I don't know why. No one is above the law. Victims deserve justice and Americans deserve confidence. Our system works as it was intended. This comes after Rep Mace attended the Oversight Committee briefing Tuesday, where victims of Jeffrey Epstein shared their stories. As a recent survivor... Representative Mace was deeply affected by the testimony and had to leave the session early as it hit too close to home.

In September 2025, the White House reportedly signaled that signing a discharge position for the Epstein files would be considered a hostile act. Despite Orange Daddy being so very angry, Mace joined fellow Republicans Thomas Massey, Lauren Boebert, and Marjorie Taylor Greene, which is my nightmare bachelorette party. Per Politico, Speaker Mike Johnson has also been working to quell an insurgent effort among lawmakers to force a

floor vote that would compel the Justice Department to oversee a wholesale release of materials in the Epstein case. Democrats say a desire among... GOP leadership to avoid such an outcome is the reason Johnson refuses to swear in Representative-elect Adelita Grijalva, the Arizona Democrat, who would be the 218th signer on the discharge position to bring up.

the bill. And of course, all of that is now stalled thanks to the shutdown. Boy, I sure wonder why and if that was anybody's motivation in making sure the government shut down. So the GOJ can't fulfill the subpoena, even though Congress issued a subpoena. Who's to say? Who's to say? Okay, so I...

All of this has been very heavy. I want you to shake it off. Shake it off. Shake it off. Shake it off. Shake it off. I don't know where else to put this, but I can't not include it. November 2024, Mace criticized the Pentagon as being... Unable or perhaps unwilling to bring forth the truth about the government's activities concerning UFOs. And question why the government maintains such secrecy if there is no big deal and there's nothing there. Okay.

Okay, the problem is how she can be so categorically awful, but also legitimately funny. Yeah. Legitimately funny. And sometimes good. She cares about the environment, I guess. She cares about the environment. She's trying to get the Epstein files released. But she might be a lying liar who lies. and also hates trans kids she does really hate and trans adults don't get it twisted

On August 4th, 2025, Mace officially announced her gubernatorial bid for the 2026 election. At one town hall, she said, I am Trump in high heels. I love what I'm doing. Nancy, I thought you didn't like drag. Also, that would be a really weird burlesque show. It would be. Before town hall on August 8th, Mace apparently lost her cool, exclaiming, Out! Get out! to people holding protest signs. After the town hall ended, Mace told NBC,

I like the debate. I like being asked tough questions. I actually ask Democrats to speak up. Ask your questions because I don't fear any of the tough questions. That is democracy and that is what our country should be about. Uh-huh. I'm going to kick out all the people who asked us questions and then say, I love a tough question. Speaking to a reporter, after a South Carolina town hall, the Republican congressman was asked why she's, quote,

touting her wins on the state's grant for the I-526 interchange, a road improvement project when its funding came from the Inflation Reduction Act, which she proudly vetoed and repeatedly rallied against. Quote. Absolutely, I can tout that. You're very confused and you're a raging Democrat, a raging leftist with that kind of questioning. As a woman, you might want to think about how you view other women and how you treat other women. Slay, girl boss.

Gaslight, gatekeep, girl bus. Everything is rose gold and pink. A spokeswoman for Mace sort of clarified, saying that... I'm just going to pretend that this is Nancy Mace wearing a fake mustache. Congresswoman! This woman owns, like... eight Stanley Cubs. Uh-huh. Yeah. And they're all color-coordinated with different track suits. Mm-hmm.

So that's Nancy Mace. Please vote for the love of God. I was sure you would have heard of her with the like, you know, T word, T word, T word. I really don't care. I don't even care. I don't even care. I don't even care. How much vocal fry can you get until you become a singer from a 90s band? I don't even care. You turned into Scott Stapp. Oh, I'm still alive. Anyway. Wow. So she sucks.

Again, what a weird weirdo. It really is the Chacha slide because she kind of slides to the left, takes a hard right, backs up. Goes forward real fast. Does it turn around? And everybody release the files. Well, on that note, let's get ourselves a little selfie carry plan.

All right. So today I'm giving you guys a self-care plan for people trying to be a good boss. Oh. Shut it. Set goals that motivate your team and allow them to feel like they are actually making a difference in the world rather than acting as a conduit of a craven husk of a star fucker.

Focus on retaining your best. There are lots of reasons that people flow in and out of jobs, but maintaining the consistency of a skilled professional team will help you stay on message rather than whatever the fuck happened to Nancy between 2024 and 2025. Drugs. Create a safe environment by making it clear that you are responsive to feedback and by not making loud calls to CNN from under your desk during a violent insurrection.

And maybe now I'm putting some gravy on this, some past gravy on this. You know, being responsive to feedback. And, you know, when you're having a presentation about... uh positive communication in the office and talking about power differentials and being told that like hey uh if your messaging comes across as angry or emotive that can like increase stress in the office and it's best to remove all that emotion from that message

and then having your boss say something to the effect of but i want them to know how mad i am oh yeah tasty tasty love it Or, you know, any boss saying to you or one of your colleagues like, I have to yell at you because I don't have any peers that I can process with. Anyway, that's going to be all for us this week, folks.

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