America's Heimrich Himmler | Steven Miller | Part 3

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Hello, my little fried wontons. Welcome to This Fucking Guy, a podcast about self-care, if self-care is one long scream into the void. Here is where we use expletives and alcohol to emotionally process the creeps, jerks, and P-words that compose the shitty elevator music of our lives. Hello. I love you. Won't you tell me your name? It's Ren Martina. Ren, don't you know me? It's Ginger Golub. I like that little accent you did. It was very...

It's kind of my George Bailey. Yeah. Mary, Mary, don't you know me? I don't know why this reminded me of, have you ever seen, I don't know what even this, it's a terrible British movie. No such thing, but okay. This lady is stomping in the yard, and these two gays come out, and one of the gay goes, No! not my petunias or something like that. And she looks up and goes, they're marigolds and stops off. And the other gay is like, she's right. They are marigolds.

And then the first gay goes, I might not know my flowers, but I know a bitch when I've seen one. And we are derailed already. no idea what movie this is but that's like one of my favorite cinema scenes of all time it's so good so so ren tell me what you have brought to scream into the void okay so I want to shout out about one thing really first, because it's stupid and funny, and it's from July, so we're a little late. So here's the headline from The Independent.

Backstreet Boy singer sues Florida County over sunbathers on his beach. So Brian Luttrell of the Backstreet Boys. Oh, it was Brian. Yeah, he's a big MAGA head. Oh, that doesn't surprise me, I guess. None of them hang out with him. Anyway, so he brought this lawsuit against a Florida county because they refused to help control trespassers from sunbathing on what he thinks is his private beachfront property.

Um, it turns out that it's not private beachfront. And in fact, some of the beach he owns, but the rest of the beach he does not own. And he keeps calling the cops to be like, hey, get them off my beach. And they're like. That's not yours. And now he's suing them over it. Well, three cheers for a smaller government. So here's from the suit, quote, to protect and have peaceful enjoyment of the subject property, Latrell's Beach Hut LLC.

BLB has put up several nope trespassing signs, as well as chairs, umbrellas, and small tables delineating... BLB's private property. However, BLB's efforts have been in vain as numerous trespassers have set out to antagonize, bully, and harass the Latrell family by regularly, every day, trespassing on BLB's Beach and open defiance of the law. And they're sunbathers, right? They are. They're like sun. They're beachgoers. They're people at the beach. Also, it's Florida. I don't know what...

I don't know what kind of lawful, good people you expect to be in Florida. That is not the alignment of the people in that state. No, no, it is not. So that was very funny to me. Apparently they even went on TikTok because they were like, we need the public's assistance because the cops aren't taking us seriously. And everyone was like, I can't make rent. Go fuck yourself. Yeah. So, yeah. So, Brian Luttrell, what a fucking idiot. Is he the one...

He wasn't the sexy, no, he's the one who has no lips, but I'm trying to remember which one he was in the Backstreet Boys music video where they're all spooky Halloween creatures. Was he a werewolf? I feel like he's the werewolf. Oh my god, we're back again. You would think that was AJ. Brother, sisters, everybody say hey. Yes, he was the werewolf. My dad has turned this off. Well...

Good news. Something else that he won't understand. Okay. This is from knowyourmeme.com. This has a good documentation of this, but there is also an article on futurism.com about it. The futurism.com headline is, A prominent open AI investor appears to be suffering a chat GPT-related mental health crisis. Oh, boy. So... Basically, Jeff Lewis, who was a Bedrock co-founder, posted this video to X slash Twitter back in July, saying he was the primary target of a non-governmental system.

And that this system has harmed over 7,000 people and caused 12 deaths through fun disruption, relationship erosion, opportunity reversal. So... So people are like, whoa, bud, what's up with that? He then returns and posts a series of screenshots showing chat GPT's responses to cryptic prompts like...

Return the logged containment entry involving a non-institutional semantic actor whose recursive outputs triggered model archive feedback protocols. Confirm sealed classification and exclude interpretive pathology. That just sounds like gibberish. It is. It's not wrong. It is. So he said that, quote, as one of OpenAI's earliest backers via Bedrock, I've long used GPT as a tool in pursuit of my core value.

truth uh over years i mapped the non-governmental system over months gpt independently recognized and sealed the pattern it now lives at the root of the model so He's saying that he used ChatGPT prompts to uncover this governmental agency conspiracy thingy majobber. And he posted a bunch of screenshots. Mm-hmm. Here's... I don't know if you'll know this thing, but maybe some people. Here's the thing. These screenshots, like the language and the things that ChatGP is giving them...

are basically word for word from the SCP Foundation Wikipedia. Have you ever heard of the SCP Foundation? I don't think so. So the SCP Foundation is a... fictional entity it is a fictional organization and essentially it's kind of like um um like reddit's like no sleep

Oh, okay. So like stories people made up to scare themselves. Yes, but specifically it's like, ooh, we're a spooky government organization that like finds paranormal things and are... operating underground and people contribute to the wiki all these cool spooky objects and there's a bunch of video games based off it and all this stuff and chat gpt when asked about hey is there a secret

spooky governmental organization that's hiding knowledge pulls from this fictional spooky organization wiki feeding it into this dude who now believes that it exists. Oh boy.

But I feel like I've talked too much and we probably need to talk about therapy. Okay, Gingy, I think, I think we're here and it's time and we need to wrap this up and finish it because... Goddamn. Yeah. Are your loins girded? So girded. Are your loins effectively girded to hear about... Stephen Miller and what the fuck he's been up to over the last eight months. Has he been chill? I'm guessing chill? Cool and? Cool and chill? So cool, so chill.

Well, as you may remember, Trump got elected again, like, allegedly, and asked some folks in Pennsylvania and upstate New York about that. But...

Yeah, after that happened, Trump confirmed that Stephen Miller, who, if you haven't listened to the first... two parts of this three-part series i don't know what to do for you please go back and listen to them um if you insist on just starting with this but also going who's steven miller he's the one that looks like nosferatu um yes he's he's the reason we can't have nice things lump on it

crazy style. I still have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. He's a horny vampire. That's what it is. Focus, Ren. Focus. Eleanor. Trump confirmed that Miller would serve as deputy chief of staff for policy and Homeland Security advisor. Nope, that's not words. He confirmed that Miller would serve as deputy chief of staff for policy. And Homeland Security Advisor. There we go. There we go. Words.

He has been described as one of the most powerful officials during Trump's second term and as having developed a close relationship with Elon Musk. So we'll talk about that in a little bit. Why are they both so clammy? Miller has been a driving force behind Trump's flood the zone strategy, which you will recognize from all news. Just the the ceaselessness of.

Shit. The ceaselessness of it never fucking relents. They can't let it relent or else we would be able to organize. It's just the unrelentingness. And for that alone, I hate him. It's designed to overwhelm the left by just endlessly pushing out new bullshit. Yep. And as part of that, he drafted or coordinated most of the executive orders signed by Trump on his first day in office, including...

Attempts to end birthright citizenship, withdrawing the U.S. from the World Health Organization and the designation of Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. Excuse me. No, that's the right response. That's the right response. Yeah, I... Okay, this is not me suddenly being on the side of Mexican cartels. I mean... I didn't see Amelia Perez, but, um, I've heard it was bad. So, you know, I'm not, this is not me taking that side, but also like terrorists, such a strong word.

Yeah. And I love ending Birthright Citizenship. That's really cool. I mean, I'm sure you're going to get into this because this is like a main chunk of what he's done. But it's a really... It's a really easy way to deport, quote, illegal immigrants when you just make everyone illegal. When you just remove all documents from everybody, then suddenly everyone's illegal and suddenly you're justified. It's, hmm. I wonder where I've seen that before. I wonder if that's happened before in human...

History. Additionally, Miller has been given significant influence over the Department of Justice, despite not being a fucking attorney. Why is he there? He has criticized federal judges as Marxist judges and claimed that they were carrying out a judicial coup by restricting the powers of the US president. It's so... It's so... It's just checks and balances. It's just fucking checks and balances, babe. Have you heard of Darvo? Do you know what Darvo is?

At one point I did. At one point. It's like the abuser's handbook, which is deny, attack, reverse victim and offender. Because what they're doing objectively is a judicial coup. But in order for them to like. do it clearly effectively you just again you deny it and then you attack and you reverse it being like actually you're doing a judicial coup by like trying to do laws right

How dare you do laws? In May 2025, Miller said regarding immigration cases that the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion. Nope. And that the Trump administration was actively looking at carrying out such a suspension, depending on whether the courts do the right thing or not. My God. They just... They just say it out loud. They just say it. He certainly says it out loud. He just says the thing out loud.

gets not really in trouble for it um it's worth noting that article one of the fucking constitution forbids such a suspension unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it As we know, the Trump administration does not know, care about or really understand words. Yeah. So I don't think that that'll be too great a barrier for them. But, you know, I'm going to hide behind that clause.

As legal scholars noted following Miller's pronouncement, the near universal consensus is that only Congress can suspend habeas, not the president. Because the whole point of suspending habeas corpus would be to bypass the courts. Like an innocent guy. And why might Miller want to bypass the courts, you ask? Well, to give a long quote from the Project on Government Oversight, I promise it'll be worth it.

The starkest example of Miller's disdain for the courts is the rendition and ongoing enforced disappearance of approximately 288 people to the notorious terrorism confinement center prison in El Salvador known as CICOT. I will know. That number came from about three months ago. Don't know where we're at now.

All of these disappearances occurred without due process and many in defiance of a March 15th court order by U.S. District Judge James Bozberg to stop transfers to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act. According to one news report, White House.

Deputy of Chief of Staff Stephen Miller orchestrated the process in the West Wing in tandem with Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. Bosberg later found probable cause that the administration had carried out the written... the renditions to el salvador in contempt of court violating his order not through any misunderstanding or miscommunication but deliberately and gleefully Yeah. Deliberately and gleefully. I have a feeling that the only time Stephen Miller is actively gleeful...

Other than when I assume cattle ranchers have him onto their farms to, like, castrate young bulls is when he is defying court orders. Well, specifically defying court orders to kidnap people and send them into concentration camps abroad. Like, if he was defying a court order against jaywalking, it would not... get his dick hard that is not no it's specific there might be a little turgidness but it's it's really the atrocities that do it for him i think we can agree on that no he definitely

He definitely gets off on like, I don't even, this is a man who watches snuff films. You know what I mean? That's his vibe.

In May, Ecuadorian President Bukele visited the White House. As Isaac Saul from The Tangled noted, it gave us some insight into why Trump seems so misinformed and delusional all the time. Quote, Trump, in front of the cameras, looked at his senior immigration advisor, Stephen Miller, and asked him about a recent Supreme Court ruling. Was it nine to nothing? In our favor, Trump asks. Yes, it was nine to nothing in our favor, Miller says.

Of course, this is not what happened. On Earth 1, the Trump administration tried to block a district court order that directed them to facilitate the turn of Abrego Garcia from El Salvador. The Supreme Court ruled without any dissents not to block the order, definitionally ruling against the Trump administration. During the meeting...

With Bukele, Trump was caught on a hot mic suggesting we could start sending our home groans to El Salvador too. Trump then confirmed he was looking into sending U.S. citizens to the prison and wanted five more prisons built to accommodate them. This is where I started researching. I have been having to fuck with Stephen Miller for so long. It has been three months. That definitely gave the vibe of having Pappy at Thanksgiving when he's deep in the dementia. And Pappy being like...

When is the draft? Have you been drafted? And it's like, yes, Pappy. Uh-huh. The draft happened and we're all okay. And that was 80 years ago. You know what I mean? Like, it's very... You know, it is certainly best practice. Right. Maybe a little shaky shake. Maybe a little shaky, shaky, shake. It's interesting because this administration, which has only been going for like eight months, oh my god, has done so much damage.

Thanks, Stephen, for helping with that. But part of the reason is obviously because this time Trump is surrounded by people who are competently cruel. um because again cruelty is the point it's not such like a chaotic shit show last time where like people who sucked but weren't actively cruel were in those positions and they're like oh whoa like i don't actually want to kick puppies

That seems a little much. But this time he's surrounded by puppy kickers. That's all they want to do. He started by staffing with a woman who admitted to shooting her own puppy. Yes. Stephen Miller probably burst several capillaries during an interview on Fox News when asked about critics. Do you like how I keep you on the rails? Yeah. When asked about critics describing Alligator Auschwitz as dehumanizing, quote,

What's dehumanizing is when American citizens are stripped of their rights and their liberties by the invasion of illegal aliens. What's dehumanizing is when Democrats let illegal alien rapists into the country to attack our children. That's dehumanizing. Stephen, I want you to explain the literal mechanism of how you think Democrats are letting rapists into the country. Not even that. Could you explain to me how undocumented persons somehow have the power to...

Remove my rights. A thing you're actively trying to do. A thing that perhaps a government entity like the executive branch can do. How are undocumented immigrants suddenly more powerful than the government? The answer is, there's only one person trying to take rights away, Stephen. I would tell you to look in a mirror, but you can't see yourself.

Just a fringe, the thinnest fringe of hair is what he sees when he looks in the mirror. Like he looks glitched out, except for like velvet fuzz floating midair. Yeah.

I feel like he wears gloves when he looks in the mirror just to like get a sense of himself. Miller visited ICE headquarters in May. May was a big month for him. And told them to deport people faster. Because speed is the issue. I guess. Well, it's a lot harder to like enact a due process when you just flood the zone, throw them into, I don't know, alligator pits. Yeah.

Miller yelled at regional ice field officers because they weren't rounding up and deporting people fast enough. He allegedly told them and definitely told Sean Hannity on recorded television. Under President Trump's leadership, we are looking to set a goal of a minimum of 3,000 arrests for ICE every day. And President Trump is going to keep pushing to get that number up higher each and every day. Why? I mean, I know why. Why do I ask? Why do I ask?

He allegedly also ordered them to skip the usual practice of compiling lists of suspected illegal migrants, instead advising officials to target community hubs, Home Depot parking lots, and 7-Eleven conventions. I wonder what they could be using to figure out where someone going to get... a Slurpee at a 7-Eleven could potentially be undocumented. What metric could they be using to figure that out? Hmm.

They're really trying to walk back this statement of his because ICE opponents are challenging the broad immigration sweeps in the courts. And the Trump administration is now arguing that quotas, we don't know her. You know, court filing. Which, when I wrote this was last week, when we're recording this is two weeks ago, and by the time you're listening to it, I don't know, it was in fucking August, reported by The Guardian.

Lawyers said that although an advisor may have made the remarks that no such goal has been set as a matter of policy and no such directive has been issued to or by DHS or ICE. We just recently reposted our Alan Dershowitz episode because we were both sicky-poo-yucky-icky. Allegedly. Allegedly. But in that episode, he was on The Fucking View.

Because the Trump administration, this is the first one, the first season, lied, like actively lied to the American public. And Whoopi Goldberg, hero of the buddy cop movie. theodore rex said hey like lying bad you shouldn't lie and alan dershowitz said oh but that's not a crime We can't criminalize lies. The government is allowed to lie to you legally unless it's like under a court order oath thingy, which I'm this is coming.

me right now because like if the government says we don't have quotas i don't believe you i don't believe liars who lie yeah and of course schrodinger's quotas let To the uptick in arrests which sparked the LA protests in June. And because of course he did, Miller coordinated the spectacularly failed federal government response to these protests.

As demonstrators took to the streets, Miller promptly raised the stakes by accusing them of an insurrection. Oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. January 6th. Go fuck yourself. I'm gonna fight him. Oh, my God. Where is. Oh, I'm going to find. You would break him. You would. He does not look like a robust man. I believe in you. Oh, for for legal reasons. This is comedy. You can't sue us. For what it's worth, the Wall Street Journal...

Previously reported that Miller had asked top ICE officials in June if they believed it was possible to reach 1 million deportations by the end of the year, citing people with knowledge of the meeting. To achieve this, he told law enforcement to... Just go out there and arrest illegal aliens, the outlet reported. I mean, but... What a work plan. That's what they've been doing. Because one of the... Because after, like, deporting...

I guess probably the handful of criminals that do exist because it's not that they don't commit crime, but crime's illegal and then they get deported. It's a thing. But like their plan right now is because they're trying to make these numbers and look all cool about it is like, well, damn, not all these people are breaking the law.

Almost as if they don't really break the law. So they literally interrupt their proceedings to like maintain legal documentation. So then they can say you're illegal now. Like that's why they literally houses and shit. Exactly. That's why they go to courthouses. They literally erupt civil proceedings. They literally disrupt like people trying to pay.

tax bills and speeding tickets. And they illegally and most upsettingly are interrupting people's 7-Eleven runs. I just, dude, I just want my Diet Coke. Like, I'm sorry. I used to live by a 7-Eleven and sometimes it was like 1130 and I'm in the middle of a video game sesh and like my seltzer waters are not cutting it for me and I want to go full college schmuck again. And I'm like, I just want a Diet Coke. So I go get a Diet Coke. And then I get my Rainbow Airheads. And, um...

You are synonymous with Rainbow Airheads in my mind. Oh, thank you. And then, yeah, and then I continue gaming my little zombie survival game because that's better than thinking about reality. Not literally, but vibes wise, 7-Eleven and Taco Bell are the same. They are definitely liminal spaces. You ready to get angrier? If I must.

While all of this is happening, Miller appears to be using his atrocities to enrich himself, allegedly. Per Rolling Stone, According to ethics disclosure reports released by the White House, Miller owns between 100,000 and 250. $50,000 worth of stock in Palantir, Peter Thiel's data and intelligence software company. In May, the Trump administration, she's crushing her soda can.

Sorry, it's seltzer water. I didn't mean to malign you. In May, the Trump administration just so happened... to tap Palantir to help build a massive system to allow federal agencies to better share their data with each other, creating a huge database that will serve as a surveillance tool for the state. Lest you think that he's alone in this, of course. Oh, Ren is going to explode. I looked away for a minute. I think you just burst a vein in your eye. Oh my god. Again, it's Palantir.

It's Evil Incorporated. It's We're the Bad Guys, Inc. Are we not baddies? It's the fucking Eye of Sauron. Yeah. LLC. Dad, I'll do a Palantir episode soon. And there, oh my god, it's, it would be, let's say I'm writing a book.

I want to write a new teen dystopia. And I wrote about like, oh, there's a surveillance organization run by billionaires called... evil eye um and they're gonna collude with the government and they have stock in it so then they can illegally deport people who they've criminalized deliberately in order to demonize others and continue maintaining their power I feel like that's a little on the nose yes I feel like agents would be like honestly a little overwrought

Yeah. A little bit too much. Maybe reel it back in. Try the subtlety of divergence. Whatever. Divergent. Not divergence. But lest you think Stephen Miller's alone in this, a project on government oversight analysis of disclosures found that at least 11 other White House officials and staffers also own stock in Palantir. What may make it grosser, what may make this even worse, for me at least, is that Miller's stake is tucked away in a brokerage account for one of his three young children.

We're all under the age of six. Ew. This single degree of separation is still a potential violation of ethics laws. Well, we don't care about those anymore. He certainly doesn't. No. Absolutely not.

Now, Ren, three children, you may say. Where did those come from? Surely Miller cannot breed. The fact that he... inseminated a woman is disgusting. It's deeply disturbing. I bet that stuff shoots out like web. Like literal webbing. Well, Stephen Miller married Katie Waldman in February 2020, the last five minutes before the coronavirus took us all. Katie worked for the United States Department of Homeland Security as deputy press secretary during the tenure of Secretary Kirsten Nielsen.

You know, that lady that Stephen Miller forced to retire by feeding bad press about her to sympathetic newspapers, allegedly? Allegedly? Allegedly? In that role. Katie repeatedly denied that the Department of Homeland Security was separating children for their parents under the Trump administration family separation policy. So cute.

Katie became the press secretary for Vice President Pence on October 1st, 2019, and eventually became his director of communications. You know, that guy they built a gallows for on January 6th after Stephen wrote that speech. Oh, that guy? Who they blamed for following his constitutional duty, as reminded by American hero Dan Quayle. You know, Mike Pence, or to use it in a sentence, hang Mike Pence.

Oh, what a time. They have a daughter born shortly after the November 2020 election and sons born in February 2022 and September 2023. Get... Off of her, my God. My God. There was not much going on. Disgusting. It was the pandemic. What else are you going to do? But also disgusting.

Are there children named stupid things like Liberty or Freedom? I don't actually know their children's names, and I almost don't want to know because they're- all under the age of six and have done nothing wrong, but I have a feeling that they're just... I'm trying to remember what the three children goblins from The Nightmare Before Christmas are named. Oh, Lock, Shock, and Barrel. Yeah.

Yeah, that's the vibe. Speaking of Katie Miller, I don't know if you knew this. I just saw this on TikTok the other day. You know that she's launching a podcast? Oh, my God. I actually didn't. So, as she told Fox News Digital...

It is past time I spoke for myself and not for somebody else. Oh, Katie. You could say that everybody has a podcast, but there truly isn't one that is in this particular space, which is a conservative female speaking to other conservative... women katie take it from the groundbreaking and no one has ever had this thought before podcast this fucking guy but i'm not sure the world needs another podcast It continues, I don't mean conservative in the politicized term. I mean someone who was a mom.

Oh, fuck's sake. Bitch, you know that conservative doesn't mean mom. You fucking know that. You know conservative doesn't mean, oh, I make my kids eat healthy. But what the fuck? Also, oh my God, you know what we don't have? podcasts where conservative women talk to other conservative women, except for people like Candace Owens and Tommy Lahren.

Doesn't Lauren Boebert have a podcast? All of them do. All of them do. Anybody can do this. Any such assholes. We are doing it. We are such assholes. We are such assholes. You know how cheap microphones are? Relatively. Cheaper than my opinions, which are dog shit. As a reminder, join our Patreon. We will put something up there eventually. No, we have a couple brunch and bitches. We need to record another one. Yeah.

Need to get it up there. I'm also been thinking about we need to start our book club. We do, because I now have the Steven Seagal. Yes. psychosexual thriller deep state novel that we need to get through. The Way of the Shadow Wolves. The Way of the Shadow Wolves. Christ. Honestly, why is that clearly a Dramion-y fan fiction where they're all furries anyway continue

I don't want to explain that to my father. In late May and early June 2025, a rumor spread on the internet that Katie had left Stephen for tech magnate Elon Musk, who had just announced his departure from his... Rilla Doge. You forgot this happened. I did forget this happened. She jumped from one wrinkly white dick to another. So Stephen Miller, as we discussed, shoots webs out his dick.

right like just webby disgusting slime um elon musk does not shoot webs out of his dick uh it's more like just like yeah I think all of his kids have been from IVF, haven't they? I wouldn't be surprised. I think so. I think that that's why they were all born biologically male, except for like one of them with grimes. And then Vivian was also just like, fuck you. Fuck you, dad. Fuck you, dad. All right. So this rumor that Katie was having an affair with Elon and was leaving Stephen started.

after Blue Sky user Snyder connected some dots and shared the speculation on social media. Snyder linked to a Wired story published on February 27th, 2025. The story explained that when Stephen Miller had assumed the position of White House... Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and Homeland Security Advisor, he made sure his wife was appointed as top communications official at Doge, directly under Musk. Citing an anonymous Republican source, the story stated,

The Millers are seen inside Trump world as glorified babysitters for Musk, tasked with ensuring he stays within bounds, insofar as that's possible. He gets a lot of grace, the first Republican said of Musk. Many people are... nervous because Stephen Miller is deeply involved and Katie. The Republican compared Musk to a preteen child. I don't know why that last part was necessary for the story but I like it.

I mean, it totally makes sense. I mean, the guy was, like, ripping a chainsaw at CPAC, you know what I mean? Yeah. God, that was so long ago and yet no time at all. Yeah, he's like, Mom, where's my pizza rolls? Mom! Do you love me yet? Is Dad ever gonna hug me? But then the Wired story started gently sipping the tea when it said...

Musk's relationship with the Millers has become a subject of great intrigue in Washington as Doge continues to wreak havoc on the federal government. Little is known about how often they interact outside of work and how the relationship... If you can find out anything about Stephen Miller's social life... I don't want to know the answer, says a longtime Republican operative who knows the couple personally.

I know that that syntax is weird. I read it many times, and that is how it is written. Well, I also don't want to know Stephen Miller's personal life, because he drinks the blood of goats. Yeah. I didn't get into, like... all of the details of the... I tried to stick with the stuff that was supported, but, like, there were allegations going that, like...

He wanted Katie to sleep with Elon so she could keep him on a tight leash. Swingers! It was this sort of throuple situation or a swinger situation. Could you imagine? That's the worst fucking throuple of all. all time could you imagine on fucking showtime's couples therapy elon steve and katie sitting on a couch all linked holding hands I'm amazed Saturday Night Live did not do that sketch.

In late May, after Musk criticized the One Big Beautiful bill for increasing the deficit, Miller took a bitchy little swipe at him on X without naming him. The New York Times published a story that referenced this exchange on May 28th, 2025. The article read,

policy shot back at Mr. Musk on social media without naming him. I just said that New York Times. Mr. Miller asserted that the bill would reduce the deficit despite multiple independent analyses saying otherwise and noted that the cuts made by Mr. Musk's team were unrelated to the spending bill. The same day that article was released by the New York Times, CNN reported that Katie Miller had left Doge to work for Musk full time. That move gave new life to claims of the relationship.

Between Musk and the pair was more complicated than it seemed and appeared to suggest that if Katie was picking sides, she was choosing the richer fascist. In reality, Katie's departure probably... Wasn't that salacious? Maybe? We'll see. Time will tell. She was hired as a special government employee, which meant she couldn't work more than 130 days per year for the US government and would have had to leave government work anyway. Why would that matter? Nothing matters.

Nothing matters. I know. That's assuming they follow the rules, right? Yeah, they don't follow rules anymore. They're deporting citizens. Like, who gives a shit? Like, oh, she's passed her 130-day work visa. Like, who gives a fuck? So, like, that is not that shady. What may have been way the fuck more shady is that two days later, on May 30th, 2025, Musk did that weird Oval Office press conference with Trump and very clearly had a...

And Musk excused this away by saying that his three-year-old son had punched him in the face because he said, hey... X-ash 12 or whatever his name is. Wingdings, my son, my sweet baby boy, punch me in the face. Kal-El, no. Kal-El, no. Oh my god. So that happened. The internet, like, lost its mind. And then the internet was mostly quiet about it for two months after it, like, that particular news cycle had passed.

I checked while I was in the woods for the five minutes of cell service I had last week, and Katie recently told Reuters that she is still on Elon Musk's payroll, even though Musk unfollowed her. on X in July, and Katie swapped the SpaceX rocket banner on her profile for pictures of her and her kids at the beach. But something I find very weird is that she won't disclose her exact role or title. That is?

Very weird. That's very fucking weird. She never has. There's speculation that she was a spokeswoman, but that was like never actually confirmed. It's fucking weird. Well, that's because they're swingers and she's his adult mommy so he can be adult baby. That's probably maybe allegedly true. Allegedly. So I'm sad to say that I don't have more specific dirt on all of that, but there you go. If I can find something else out, we will put it on the Patreon. Ugh. We'll do it. Gross.

So this is not how I ever want to start a sentence. At the risk of sounding like I'm defending Trump, I really want to emphasize that the xenophobia coming first and foremost out of his administration is coming from Stephen Miller. According to the New York Times, the president told a campaign meeting last year that if it was up to Miller, there would only be 100 million people living in the U.S. and all of them would look like Miller.

Miller has also been dubbed the president's id in some circles. The worm tongue, if you will. Others have called him the most consequential White House official since Dick Cheney. The clearest testimony to Miller's status has come from Trump himself. When asked if Miller might become national security advisor, he said, Stephen is much higher on the totem pole than that.

Tara Setmeyer, a former Republican communications director on Capitol Hill, laments that Miller's rising star means that he can, quote, use the powers of the federal government to unleash his fascist worldview, saying that worldview has now been transferred. Does... Their, uh... They were interviewing an old friend of his with the last name Silverman. Does Silverman have any advice for people who are just learning about Stephen Miller for the first time?

Take him seriously and know that he is a dangerous person, he says. He has a dangerous mind and a dangerous way of thinking. He wants to shift what America is about. You've got to stay vigilant. He's not taking any days off. one thing Miller is and he's a lot of things. He's absolutely motivated. This is his entire life. This is everything for him. He's not going to rest. He won't rest. He won't stop. He's not a Trump shill. He was this way.

before Trump, before Bannon. He was radicalized way before that. Be so afraid of 1920s Nosferatu.

So some people like to compare Trump to Hitler. I understand why. if only in the, like, broadest of senses. But he is not Hitler. Hitler was actually a great orator and had some competency of some kind. But, like, again... populist leader fascism you know i i get it steven miller is america's heinrich himmler if you don't remember himmler uh specifically um Himmler was the leader of the SS and the Gestapo.

And as a principal enforcer of the Nazis' racial policies, he was responsible for the operation of the concentration and extermination camps. He was a chief engineer of the Holocaust. And what a legacy he left behind. But specifically the idea that he enforced the Nazi racial policies. He was the one... leading the deportation of, again, at the time, were citizens. I saw a video the other day where some conservative on TikTok was very upset.

Because someone compared what was happening in America, this overarching deportation of people, to what happened to the Jewish people and specifically Anne Frank. This person had the gall, the utter ignorance to say, well, no, Anne Frank wasn't deported. She wasn't illegal. Oh, honey.

She was just taken and put in a camp. And I'm just like... Because they made her illegal. Because they made the Jews illegal. They made the Jewish people... illegal they were citizens and then they decided to revoke that citizenship so they could be illegal so they could then deport them under the guise of legality and then kill them and imprison them yeah and by focusing on you just need to deport more people you just need to deport people faster with

Miller is doing is saying, please do not think about this that hard. Please do not think about this so hard that your conscience and your human decency kicks in for even a moment. I mean, it's only it's only another step. Right? Because it's like...

Oh, well, we have to deport them fast. You know, we're not able to deport them fast enough and we don't have enough places to put them. Honestly, it's really expensive to try to put them in these places. What would be cheaper? You know, if we just line them up in front of a hole and shot them all.

be a lot cheaper but you know what that does eventually um like the the people that we make do that eventually do have like breaks insanity because it's actually really hard to like murder hundreds of people looking them in the face so like maybe we can figure out a more efficient way to get rid of these unwanted people that we don't want to deport anymore because it's too time consuming

maybe a camp right where they all go and then we can find some processes maybe chemically read a fucking history book Well, I feel like we need a self care plan. All right. Deep breaths. I know that this is the most fun episode we've ever done. This is so depressing. This is...

I don't have that many bits this episode. No, we don't have very many bits this episode. It is a part three, so my expectations for anybody listening to it are pretty slim to begin with. But I know that Gretchen and my dad are there for us. Yay. So I'm going to give you some self-care tips for something that Stephen Miller has never fucking done in his life, which is get out of the...

fucking bat cave and go into the sun. Here are some benefits of spending time outside and some limited sunlight exposure. Did you know, I bet you did, that sunlight is essential for our bodies to synthesize vitamin D, which is important for bone health, immune function, and overall well-being. Oh. So good for you. It can be good for mood enhancement and even improve cognitive function by increasing serotonin levels. I could use some serotonin right about now. You could use so much serotonin!

And it can actually improve your sleep by helping regulate the body's natural sleep-wake cycle or circadian rhythm because... You want to sleep on a normal schedule and not from like 2 to 4 p.m. in the basement of the White House hanging from a pipe by your toesies, Stephen. While your wife... bangs Elon Musk. While your wife bangs Elon Musk. I don't... Cock chair just mounted on the ceiling upside down. Oh, man. It's been a rough one, guys. I guess that's all for us this week, folks.

If you like what you're hearing, you should check us out on this FNGuyPod on all of the social medias. As always, I'm Ginger Golub. I'm Ren Martinez. Here's a bonus self-care tip. No, seriously, apply for that passport. God, if only. Apply for it. Do it. Do it now. Apply. Leave. Go to Bali. Anyway, don't be this fucking guy. Peace. This fucking guy.