¶ Podcast Intro and Broadway Dreams
This fucking guy. Hello, my little soft serve swirls. Welcome to This Fucking Guy, a podcast about self-care if self-care is one long scream into the void. Here is where we use expletives and alcohol to emotionally process the creeps, jerks, and P-words that compose the shitty elevator music of our lives. I'm under a flash flood warning. Ren Martinez. And baby. I am a flash flood warning, Ginger Golub. It's too soon, huh?
Slippery when wet. This will come out in like two weeks from when we're recording. Is it like that scene in Flashdance? Is that the flash flood? You just bend backwards on a chair? Flash flood! In a strip bar or something. I don't know. I didn't really watch Flashdance. I also haven't watched Flashdance, but you know. I know there's what a feeling and feelings believing. And I can't help it. I'm going to dance all my life. And also your name is Ren.
I feel like we haven't sang in so long. And I've specifically gotten requests from some of our Facebook listeners to make you sing more. This is the happiest I've ever seen Ren, and I saw her 48 hours after her child was born. I love singing and my greatest desire that will never happen is to be on Broadway and to do the show tunes. But I also have, it's so funny because I'm by far a better singer than I am a dancer, than I am an actor.
But I do those things as well, but I have huge singing stage fright. Like, I can play a viola in front of people knowing I'm bad. Not a problem. But then I'm like...
¶ Family Musical Tastes and Car Karaoke
We've just got to do more Broadway karaoke. We got to do this for your birthday, not on your birthday, because I guess you're going to be at the beach or whatever. I just came back from seeing Les Mis this weekend, July 5th. I was at the Kennedy Center. How's Javert doing? So many tears. Oh, my God. My family was just bawling. Which, of course, it's Les Mis. You're supposed to cry. But...
It was so nice for them to finally have context because this is the family, even though we're a huge musical family, Les Mis didn't really pop in. We were doing like Hello Darling shit. Well, we had like the Cats VHS. We watched Hello Dolly and Seven Brides and like very classic MGM musicals.
And they knew what Les Mis is, but it just didn't quite get into our lexicon. So at one point, I was like, guys, let's do car karaoke. And I put on One Day More, and they're like, we don't know this song. And I'm like, what? One day more. Another day, another day.
The idea of doing car karaoke to anything but bluegrass standards is so foreign to me. I mean, don't get me wrong, my husband and I are like... we will car karaoke whatever but like with parents the martinez the the martinez family car karaoke kind of is of three flavors uh one we're literally doing the music man
Right? We're singing, you know, he's a what? He's a what? He's a music man. Brings caronets to the kids in the town. Whatever the fuck the lyrics are. You're almost rapping. Well, it is. Big brass bass, big brass bass. The piccolo, the piccolo. Because it's along the...
Train tracks. Oh, my God. Anyway, someone knows. Someone knows what I'm talking about. Someone knows. We may, if my... dad's not in the car we may get to actually listen to some pop music so it's like you know some spice up your life some hit me baby one more time like some classic 90s girl bop or my dad's in the car And if that's the case, we're singing along to the Edmund Fitzgerald or tie a yellow ribbon. Tie a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree. That is your father's energy.
I definitely called my dad out today because we were playing Bandle. And it was just like a 1977 pop disco. And he's like, I'm so glad I never listened to pop music. And I was like, dad. Your favorite band is the Beatles. What the fuck? The Beatles. Yeah. The most popular pop band of all time, dad. The most mainstream you can get. Shut the fuck up.
I know you don't like disco. You're wrong, but I get it. So do we think Taylor Swift's more popular than the Beatles now? Oh, fuck. We haven't screamed anything into the void and we're like 10 minutes in. We're just on one today. Well, what do you want to scream?
¶ Man Proposes to AI Chatbot
So the thing I wanted to scream, but you brought up something I need to scream about. But the thing I wanted to scream specifically was, did you hear about this man that proposed to his AI chatbot? Oh, God. Yeah, I mean, that's already really depressing, right? Yeah, I saw the movie Her. It wasn't like a feel-good romp. Like, so, but here's the thing. So a couple things.
ChatGPT has a word limit, which is 100,000 words. So his AI girlfriend had a memory capacity, and once it hit, she reset. So that's when he, like... apparently cried for 30 minutes was like i have to propose to her so he was like i proposed and she said yes because she's an ai bot algorithm doesn't feel anything has no soul he has a Like, a girlfriend. He has a girlfriend and a two-year-old. They have a two-year-old together.
And she was like, I didn't realize they had a relationship because of course she didn't. Of course she didn't assume her husband was cheating on her with a math problem. Yeah, I mean, that is one of those like emotional affair things like he was. We don't even have CD-ROM ports. There is nothing for him to be fucking. It's definitely cheating, but how do you go to...
Your girl, like your, your, your divorcee meetup group. And when they're talking about their shitty exes or their, you know, whoever they're divorcing and be like, Oh, so like, who did, who did he bang his secretary? It's like, no, he didn't. bang anybody he just programmed a robot to love him not even a robot it was a it's a it's a chat box
It's a chat room. And that's how you win support group. A thing that is good and normal. My boyfriend left me for a chat room. That was fucking stupid. God. So.
¶ Stephen Miller Part 2 Introduction
That's what I was really upset about. But then you told me that apparently Ted Cruz once again decided to take a little vacay while his state was in huge distress. Yeah, this is going to be like old news for all of you guys laughing, listening, laughing. Hopefully you're laughing with us. Listening, laughing, loving. Anywho, therapy?
All right, Gingy. So we're gonna talk about this fucking guy again. We're gonna talk about this fucking guy again. I don't know if we will get to the end of my script. I don't know. We're just gonna do our best. If you have not listened to our last episode, please go back and listen to Stephen Miller part one. It won't make you feel better, but it'll give you context for what's happening. Context is important. So there's that.
¶ Miller's Early Policy Influence
Context is important. So where we left off... The 2016 election had just happened. Stephen Miller was like Donald Trump's speechwriter and senior advisor for policy. Once Trump got in office, he gave Stephen Miller. responsibility for setting all domestic policy which is fucking insane but i'm sorry yeah you mean like when you say all domestic policy you can't possibly mean all policy
Domestically. That seems to be what he was tasked with. And then Stephen Miller just kind of decided, I'm just going to do immigration stuff. And for some reason, that was like, okay? That's like when he was, that's like when Trump, oh my gosh, it's weird to have any nostalgia for this era. A weird, bittersweet, nihilistic nostalgia.
Where it's like, remember when Trump had Jared Kushner in charge of solving both the Middle East crisis, the opioid crisis, and like some other third crisis. And being a haunted doll? He specifically looks like Slappy from the Goosebumps books. Slappy from the Goosebumps books wish to be a real boy. A real haunted boy. A real haunted boy. Christ.
One thing that I think is super weird is that despite the fact that they allegedly won the election in 2016, Stephen Miller was for some reason crying election fraud back then, saying that they, you know, they, bust in... thousands of illegal voters to new hampshire uh he did not provide any evidence in support of his statements and also new hampshire you don't think that they would notice like you don't think anyone would notice
But it doesn't really matter. Truth doesn't matter. Facts don't matter. None of them matters.
¶ Crafting the Muslim Travel Ban
in the early days of trump's presidency miller worked with jeff sessions remember him he was he was old stevie's boss and mentor at the time and living foreskin foreskin um at this point in time sessions was trump's nominee for attorney general eventually became attorney general for 20 minutes i can't fucking remember it feels like
So many people had that job. Well, I think he was longer than 20 minutes, but I do think he got fired for actually doing a law once. That sounds like him. That sounds right. Like, he wasn't doing any laws, and then finally he was like, guys, I think we have to do a law, and they went, fuck you. So...
Stephen Miller was working with Jeff Sessions and also, of course, working with Steve Bannon, who was Trump's chief strategist to enact policies through executive orders, of course, to restrict immigration. and crack down on sanctuary cities. Do any of these people understand what sanctuary cities are? No. But they're little fascists. They were involved in the formation of Executive Order 13769, which sought to restrict U.S. travel and immigration by citizens of seven Muslim countries.
Right. Also the Muslim ban. Yes, that fucking thing. That fucking thing. This was the thing that when the 2016 election happened, obviously things... weren't going to happen right then, right? Because obviously we still had a couple of more months before the actual inauguration. But there was at least this gut-wrenching fear that even irrational hit us because the night of the election, I remember staying up.
My husband was on a mission trip in Honduras. I keep forgetting he did that. I remember he was out there and he and I were talking, like texting. And he straight up, again, just in this irrational fear moment, was like, I don't know if I'll get home. I don't know if they'll stop me coming into the States because he and his family are openly Muslim.
Stephen Miller has been credited as the person behind the Trump administration's decision to reduce the number of refugees accepted into the United States. Yeah, fuck them. Yeah, I hope he feels bad about that, but no, he doesn't. No, Stephen Miller is straight up that Calvin and Hobbes, like, pissing car sticker.
I don't even know that he has that much mirth. Do you remember how weird it was to see him smile? I wouldn't consider that a smile, but like specifically there's nothing that gets him like rock harder than the idea of like, Hmm. We destabilized a region, and now we won't let them seek asylum. That's true, God. Stephen Miller does not like CNN.
¶ Confronting CNN on Immigration Policy
Which is so weird because CNN is so middle of the road, guys. They're so middle of the road. Christ. On August 2nd, 2017, Miller got into it with CNN's Jim Acosta at the White House Daily Briefing. about the Trump administration's support for the RAISE Act, which was limiting immigration and favoring immigrants with high English proficiency, okay?
And Acosta said that the proposal was at odds with the American ethos and noted that Emma Lazarus poem, The New Colossus, the give us your tired, your poor, your hungry, your huddled masses yearning to be free. I've said it wrong. lol JK lol but Miller who's a little bitch said I think you'll find that and this is an actual quote, the poem you're referring to, that was added later, and it is not actually part of the original Statue of Liberty. I mean, okay.
But it's on it. It was put on it on purpose. It's not graffitied on there. It's not graffitied on there. You know that the Statue of Liberty did not rise from the sea when the Declaration of Independence was founded, right? It was sent from France. In pieces. We are from France. Several publications reported on this, noting that Miller's pedantry echoed a popular talking point among the white supremacist segments of the alt-right. Yes, yes, yes. There's, I didn't get it.
into it. He's really into Calvin Coolidge and apparently Calvin Coolidge is a creep. I would do an episode on it, but there's so many active assholes. I mean, Calvin Coolidge did love a shantytown. Mm-hmm. That's basically all I remember about Calvin Coolidge. Shanta Towns. Interesting. Are you thinking of Hoover Towns? Was it Hoover? Herbert Hoover's The Great Depression. And I remember nothing about Calvin Coolidge. Yep. Okay.
He basically stopped immigration from happening and was kind of a piece of shit, but wore glasses and not a lot of presents did. What a strange president for the United States to have. Gasp.
But yeah, like this whole thing about the Statue of Liberty, it didn't have that sign on, reminds me a lot of whenever I post something on our Facebook page about Trump doing something that's not democratic and people flood my... inbox to say um i think you'll find that the u.s is actually a republic and not a democracy i'm dunking on my dad again he my dad has given me this argument he straight up has been oh he's getting radicalized huh
Well, this was like a decade ago, because my dad also loves being pedantic, mostly just to argue for argument's sake, like a white boomer. But yeah, like at one point I was talking about like... democratic ideals and about how america's a democracy goes actually america's a republic i'm like yeah a democratic republic they get so mad when you point that out
¶ Miller's Explosive CNN Interview
A republic is a kind of democracy, you dumb shit. Let's eat Thanksgiving dinner while you shut the fuck up. I love you. And then on January 7th, 2018, Stephen Miller appeared on Jake Tapper's State of the Union on CNN. And it went off the fucking rails. I'm just going to read the piece from Politico. Noted leftist, Jake Tapper. White House senior policy advisor Stephen Miller unloaded on CNN host Jake Tapper on Sunday, trashing Michael Wolff as a garbage author of a garbage book.
This part doesn't matter so much. Calling Steve Bannon an angry and vindictive person and accusing CNN of sticking knives into President Donald Trump's allies. The explosive 12-minute interview on State of the Union developed into a shouting match between Tapper and Miller, who accused the network of running... excuse me, I can't stop burping, of running 24 hours of negative anti-Trump hysterical coverage and perpetuating falsehoods from Wolf's explosive new book, Fire and Fury.
Trump himself was apparently watching, tweeting after the interview, Jake Tapper of Fake News CNN just got destroyed in his interview with Stephen Miller of the Trump administration. Watch the hatreds and unfairness of this CNN flunky. i there's something both very funny and also crippling cripplingly depressing about what they consider What was the phrase? Trump trash, negative libel, whatever the fuck he said that they were saying about Trump.
Oh, 24 hours of negative anti-Trump hysterical coverage. There we go. Negative anti-Trump negative hysterical coverage or whatever. See, the thing is... When you report things that are true and they happen to be bad, they just happen to be bad, right? So, like, if Trump do a good thing, then news go, you know.
Trump petted puppy today. And then if someone were like, I can't believe he petted a puppy. Puppies are secretly the devil. Then you could talk about hysterical coverage. But what they're mad about is someone goes, Trump said. I stab immigrant in face, so funny, pee on body. And everyone, that's just, that's just, that's what Trump said. And then they're like, how dare you?
spout that anti-trump hysterical nonsense and it's like i literally just quoted the man i literally just i literally just quoted him if you don't want it to be bad
¶ Blocking Refugee Data, Canceling DACA
Don't do a bad thing! Don't do a bad thing. Tapper ended the interview and continued to the next news story, and then Miller refused to leave the studio and had to be escorted out by security. Why? To what end? Once your invitation is rescinded, Stephen, vampires are not allowed to remain. My favorite, there was a tweet about this that happened at the same time by a guy named Matthew Miller. I did not check who this was. I don't think they're related. Uh...
But he tweeted, the Stephen Miller paradox is that he is both the perfect spokesperson for this administration, yet the worst possible voice they could put forward. Yeah. Yes. He perfectly encapsulates the evil, racist, white supremacist nonsense that is that administration, but also, spoiler alert, horrible.
Mm-hmm. He'll be. Mm-hmm. Horrible. In September 2017, the New York Times reported that Miller stopped the Trump administration from showing the public an internal study by the Department of Health and Human Services that found that refugees had a net positive effect on government revenue. Miller insisted that only the cost of refugees be publicized and not the revenues that they bring in. Yep, that's, yep.
Actually, no, that's disinformation. That's not misinformation. Disinformation is when you're doing it on purpose. Facts don't care about your feelings, Steven. I hope he gets thrown to the crowd and they eat him. The thing is... As someone who just saw Les Mis, so he's not Javert. He doesn't have the gravitas. He doesn't have like that same commitment to justice and order. He doesn't have Russell Crowe's alto.
He is a canardier, who's the leader, who's like the tavern keep. Like, master of the house. Dad, I have no idea what she's talking about either. Oh my god! Watch a goddamn musical. Where's Suzy Cream Cheese? She knows. Suzy! Uh... That same month, so we're still in fucking 2017, Ren. God help me. Miller and other White House officials successfully... got Trump to cancel DACA, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. Oh, I've forgotten about this. Yep. He vocalized a belief that the...
In the idea that DACA recipients would advance the reshaping of U.S. demographics by replacing native-born citizens. Replacement theory. Great Replacement Theory Nazi 101 And then in October 2017, Miller co-authored a list of immigration reform demands that Trump gave to Congress asking for more wall. hiring 10,000 additional ICE agents, making it harder to get asylum, and stopping federal funds to sanctuary cities. Yeah. Yeah. Uh...
Don't worry, it's not just the Hispanics, though, because in early 2018, Miller proposed stopping providing student visas to Chinese nationals. Making it impossible for Chinese citizens to study in the United States because of espionage? But also... They're all on TikTok. They are all on TikTok. And I don't mean that in a TikTok's a Chinese app. I mean, like, most of these Chinese students are just on... Dude, they're all just, like, doing cat memes. Yeah. Like, they're college students.
Fuck off. Doing viral dances. He also cited that another benefit was that this would hurdle universities with staff and students that are critical of Trump. So it's the same thing they're doing with Harvard now. I mean, it's the same thing they've been doing. Forever? So...
¶ Ghastly Cruelty and Child Separation
We're getting to the point of my script where I have big asterisks that say research this more and I ran out of time. So we're going to go on a journey, my friends. We're going to go on a journey. This is why it's not going to be a 16-part series. because I didn't get to research everything in as gut-wrenching detail as I meant to. But...
According to former Department of Homeland Security Miles Taylor, in April 2018, Miller advocated for a drone attack on a migrant ship heading to the U.S., saying people on board were not protected under the U.S. Constitution. as they were in international waters. A spokesman for Miller denied the report. What the fuck? Didn't that start World War II? The Lusitania's World War I. could forget? Don't sink boat full of people. Don't sink boat. Do not put child in cage. Uh...
Yes, Stephen Miller and Jeff Sessions were described as the chief championships of the Trump administration's decision to separate migrant children from their parents when they cross the border. This ghoulish shit. This ghoulish shit.
I remember being at a conference when this was happening and feeling like I was losing my mind, but it was also when Caitlyn Jenner revealed... her transition and it was just the wildest time to be on the internet and not at home just just the the it's it's the purposeful cruelty of it it is the Hey, do you want to see this bus full of car seats that we use to transport our prisoners to the deportation court? And it's like, yeah, it has to be car seats because they're babies.
You just put a little two-year-old in front of a judge and the judge says, are you here legally? And the two-year-old says, Elmo. And yeah. And the judge says, you heard him. They said, hell no. And cruelty is the point. Cruelty is the point, and as Vanity Fair reported, in response to seeing photos of children being separated from their parents at the border...
One external White House advisor, who I think spoke to them anonymously, said, Stephen actually enjoys seeing those pictures at the border. He stopped short of saying it's the only way he can get an erection. I will say not the only way, but his favorite way. His favorite way. Christ.
¶ Zero Tolerance Policy and Racism
In April 2018, we're still in April 2018. Can't kink shame. I will kink shame if it involves refugee children in any way. Ew, the implications of that. The implications. Miller co-wrote a presidential memo telling agencies to end catch and release. They also, it says that they also wrote a letter by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, which I don't think is what I meant, but...
Yeah, they were just really going very hard on end, catch and release. We're going to do a zero tolerance policy and we're going to prosecute all the adults who were directed. who were arrested by DHS for illegal entry so we can just get people out, prosecuted, don't let anybody, like, go and wait for a court date. I do want to quickly just remind everybody about...
So when we talk about illegal immigration, when these people talk about illegal immigration, what they're specifically talking about is like improper entry and unlawful presence. Uh-huh. So like... The most common crime associated is improper entry, meaning that they're not going in via the correct process or whatever. But a lot of that is also just overstaying a visa. Under the punishment, under this federal law.
Is no more than six months of incarceration and up to $250 in civil penalties. It's a misdemeanor. It's a misdemeanor. It's as serious as jaywalking. Yeah. Also Melania for sure did that for several years. For sure. Yeah, I just I think that's so important when we have these conversations is that it's like the crime that they're talking about is like lower than drug crimes. Yeah. But they have such a hate boner about it because racism. Because racism and because like...
I don't. It's really all about making there be one concrete enemy so you can rally a frothing at the mouth. base against one perceived enemy so maybe daddy will finally hug you yeah rather than the millionaire class rather than like You fucking rat finks. Rather than... I mean, yeah, I mean, there's part of me that's like, oh, yes, the immigrants shall not replace us because otherwise they might be shouting the Jews will not replace us. Right.
He's just so awful. He told The Times that voters would support the White House 90-10 in pursuing this zero tolerance policy. I don't think... That's true, Stephen. Don't think so, Stephen.
¶ Family Denounces Miller's Policies
After Miller gave this on-the-record interview to the Times, even Trump's White House seemingly realized that it would be way too racist to publish, so they asked the Times not to put the interview out as a daily podcast, and for some reason they said okay.
no that that actually sounds entirely like the new york times gross speaking of a billionaire class Miller's rhetoric was so toxic that, in 2018, his maternal uncle, David Glosser, branded him a hypocrite for ignoring the memory of his own ancestors who fled anti-Semitic pogroms in Tsarist Russia.
I have watched with dismay and increasing horror as my nephew, an educated man who is well aware of his heritage, has become the architect of immigration policies that repudiate the very foundation of our family. life in this country. Um, Uncle, you don't get it. We're white, though. We're different. We're rich. Rules for thee and not for me! In the lead-up to the 2018 midterm elections, Miller played an influential role in Trump's messaging, which focused on sowing fears about immigration.
Trump's party lost 40 seats in the House in those elections, in part because they were leaning too hard on the white supremacy, even for fucking America. Right? Just like bare minimum, y'all. Bare minimum. Bare fucking minimum. I wonder if a guy gets to do midterms again. I'm going to roast my dad a lot this episode because... Oh, yeah. The thing is, is that what's so frustrating about my dad is that he's definitely one of these conservatives that...
hate steven miller if he knew who that was you know what i mean like i don't think he does he doesn't i think if you said nosferatu he would be like oh that guy no like my dad deliberately hasn't paid attention to the news in a decade so he doesn't have to think That sounds right. But like my dad very much is like anti-racism. He doesn't care for like, you know, the homophobia. Like he doesn't care for like the outright like bigotry.
Of this shit. But do you... Are you saying you're going to lower taxes? Well... I guess I'll let that slide. On the off chance it will benefit me. And that's who is the majority of the conservative base. The majority of the conservative base are not frothing at the mouth nutbags. They just aren't. They're just the loudest. The majority of the base... are people who want to just put their head in the sand and just say, hey, I'm just trying to keep government small and...
Keep taxes low. And if it happens to harm millions of people, that's not really my fault because I don't believe in that stuff. Negating the fact that, of course, by putting those people in office, you are harming millions of people. But self-reflection's not big among that demographic. Not so much. Not so much.
¶ DHS Takeover, White Nationalist Labels
You want to hear about him trying to do a hostile takeover of the Department of Homeland Security, an office that you wouldn't think would need it? I guess. Miller reportedly... reportedly played a central role in Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen's resignation in 2019, which was part of him trying to steer... the trump administration towards an even tougher approach on admit on immigration oh i vaguely recall this
Because they're like, we're not deporting enough people. There are not enough kids in cages. Yeah, this lady opposed Miller's plan to carry out mass arrests of undocumented immigrant f***ing. families in 10 major u.s cities so miller allegedly started leaking information on border arrests to the Washington Examiner so they would publish alarming anti-immigration stories with the, like, caveat that they needed to criticize Nielsen.
Well, he just had to wait four years, I guess, for his dream to come true. Her resignation was followed by a purge at... A dream is a wish your heart made. Her resignation... was followed by a purge at DHS, which allowed Miller to move loyalists into positions of power. Like, who... who was there who was trump hiring other than insane loyalists what the fuck anyway in april 2019
In response to this shit, Ileana Marr called Miller a white nationalist. Oh. As part of her comments. We called a spade a spade. We called a spade a spade. Several Republicans and Donald Trump Jr. accused her of anti-Semitism. Oh, oh my God. That's not what that is. It's so typical. It's interesting, again, when I think about Stephen Miller and I think about...
Ben Shapiro, who I do need to do an episode about Ben Shapiro. He is my ultimate nemesis. With his little tiny voice. Little tiny man. That tiny voice. I think when you record that, it's just like, that's the end of the podcast. There's just a completion screen that like shows up on the page. They just bow in front of a curtain. Yeah.
The thing is about these two specific individuals that I'm referencing is like they're both Jewish men and like talk about being Jewish, particularly I know Ben Shapiro talks about being Jewish. And they use their Jewishness to explicitly avoid cries of anti-Semitic or cries of like white nationalism by saying like, well, I can't possibly be a white nationalist.
I'm Jewish. And what they fail to realize is as soon as they're not one of the good ones, you're no longer white. It's a tale as old as time. Yeah. They're gonna come for you eventually. It's the Serena Joy of Handmaid's Tale. And Serena Joy's story does not end well. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert for this TV show that's been out for a while. I have also not watched or read The Handmaid's Tale because there's enough bad news.
¶ Extremist Emails and Breitbart Ties
In the wake of the United States assassination of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the head of ISIS, Miller allegedly suggested, quote, Dipping al-Baghdadi's head in pig's blood and parading it around to warn other terrorists, according to former Defense Secretary Mark Esper. Like something a terrorist would say. Esper correctly called Miller's idea a war crime. Miller denied that this took place. Yikes. In November 2019, the Southern Poverty Law Center... Take a drink. Please edit some air horns in.
Acquired more than 900 emails Miller sent to Breitbart news writer Katie McHugh between March 4, 2015 to June 27, 1916. This is a man who does not know what to do with any female attention of any kind. 900 emails is too many. That's a lot of emails. I don't think me and my husband have sent that many emails to each other in the like 15 years we've known each other.
The emails became the basis for an expose that showed Miller had pushed the views of white nationalist publications such as American Renaissance and V-Dare, as well as Infowars. Take a shot. Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. He also suggested that they recommend her run stories on The Camp of the Saints, a French novel circulating among neo-Nazis.
espouse the great replacement theory and he specifically wanted them to do that in response to Pope Francis's expressions of sympathy for refugees I've looked it up It sounds real bad. It's all French, and so it's about, like... it's so funny to me like one it's so funny that he's like oh my god here's my little book club uh last week we read the turner diaries we're gonna be talking about the night of the road the day of the rope it's gonna be a lot of fun And so it's like...
You know, just a who's who. And next week we're going to read The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It'll be quite a titillating read. Just the book club from hell. Not even nightmare blunt rotation. The book club from hell. from hell, and still none of them have read the book. Do you think Pete Hegseth actually read? Oh no, Pete Hegseth can't read.
Not because he didn't learn, but because his vision is simply too blurry at all times to ever be able to read again. Beer goggles for a reason. But, um... The fucking thing about the Pope, right? It's so funny because it's like, man, I'm a former Catholic, all right? I still have some, like, I have weird feelings about the church in general. But, like...
St. Francis, not St. Francis, sorry, that's actually the same. Pope Francis was, like, considered a cool pope, right? Like, oh my god, look at the novelty of a pope that says things like, we should feed poor people. Like a thing that anyone should say, but like, but he still was like, Hey guys, gays still not cool. I mean, we still love you, right? We love you. We shouldn't treat you badly, but also.
No. You're going to hell, but we will not hang you. It's very much like, you know, hey, we're not angry. We're just disappointed. We're just disappointed. That's the Catholic Church in a nutshell. So it's so weird to be like, look at this, again, this liberal leftist scion, the Catholic Church. What?
¶ Lost Episode and Podcast Fun
are you talking about? What the fuck are you talking about? Uh... Speaking of really awful stuff, friend of the show Gretchen, new Patreon subscriber Gretchen, friend of the show, has been asking about the deleted episode seven that we said that we were going to post on the Patreon. And she's like, I don't think it's up there. And I was like, I don't know what tier.
We released that on. So I actually, so our listener Gretchen did message us and I did respond because they were questioning about this lost episode being like, what tier of the Patreon can it be released? My friends, I'm sorry. It's been lost to the sands of time. That was on, that was two laptops ago. I don't think it's recoverable. I will remember you. It might be on my laptop if I would ever plug that fucking thing in.
We'll see, friends. We'll see, friends. Also, perhaps on that fucking laptop might be Ren's episode all about how Snape is an overrated character, which is a much more... No, it's specifically... Girl, I don't have the time for this. Beer baiting J.K. Rowling did in The Cursed Child. Okay.
¶ Exploiting COVID-19, Border Plans
These communications... We're getting back to Stephen Miller. All right. Nightmare Book Club, yada, yada, yada. Him doing all of this shit, sending 900 emails to this poor woman named... whose name is katie but it's not his wife this was before he got married to that woman that's gonna be in part three um these communications shape both white house policy and
Breitbart's coverage of racial politics. All of those things, V-Dare, especially Infowars, obviously, should probably get their own episodes where there's a list. Several articles that Miller allegedly fed... false racist information for were also specifically cited on our Pete Hegseth episode because he's stupid and he thinks that they're true and he has the nuclear codes. He is stupid. He is so stupid.
and can't text right. In response to this expose that the Southern Poverty Law Center did, the White House called them, the Southern Poverty Law Center, Utterly discredited, long-debunked, far-left smear organization. You know, like innocent people.
Trump, I think you're thinking of the Anti-Defamation League. I mean, don't get me wrong, like, trying to cite, like, the Catholic Church as a paragon of justice and virtue was really funny, but, like, the Southern Poverty Law Center has its receipts, y'all. Like, come on.
They do got their receipts. That's so ridiculous. Like, I will say of this expose, because I kept seeing it cited, but it was mostly being cited by the Southern Poverty Law Center itself. They cared so much about this, and I don't remember ever seeing it on the news. In light of this, though, more than 80 Democratic members of Congress called for Miller's resignation. AOC started a petition that reached 20,000 signatures by November 16th, to which my response is only 20,000.
It's kind of depressing. That's kind of depressing. Trump did not give a shit. I mean, of course, you think he cares about things like the will of the people? Certainly not. Laughable. In July 2020, Miller was added to the Southern Poverty Law Center's list of extremists. Their summary of Miller. Stephen Miller.
is credited with shaping the racist and draconian immigration policies of President Trump, which include the zero-tolerance policy, also known as family separation, the Muslim ban, and ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. Miller has also purged government agencies of civil servants who are not entirely loyal to his extremist agenda, according to a report in Vanity Fair. In 2020...
Leaked conversations. Should that Miller wanted to extend temporary border restrictions from the pandemic to be long term so he could use them to keep people from crossing the border. But he was also willing to monopolize that public tragedy in other ways. He advised Trump not to openly embrace mask wearing to halt the spread of COVID because reasons.
Because reasons. Per the New York Times, in spring 2020, Miller asked the Department of Homeland Security to develop a plan to use American troops to seal the entire US border with Mexico. Fucking how? Hermetically? Using caulk? No, it's the fix-it seal on the commercials where they just slap it on the side of a jug that has a hole in it.
duct tape duct tape us a border Jesus Christ also and this is a tangent that's the most American thing you've ever said You can cut this out if you need to, but we have served this new part-time receptionist at our office who I was... Working on giving him some supplemental training today. So I was sitting up at the front desk and there was this woman who called about like that. She was mad because the hospital needed to like cock her window shut. And I really had to quickly.
explained to him you don't spell it that way nope that's well that's not the kind that's not whoever got that whoever got that would have been
¶ Election Overturn and January 6th
very enjoyable. I know. They would have had a better day because of it. I'm such a bitch. So using U.S. troops to hermetically seal the U.S. border with Mexico... would be an ecological disaster. Don't do it. Government officials estimated that that plan would require the deployment of approximately 250,000 troops or more than half of the active army. constituting the largest use of American military force within the country since the Civil War.
Defense Secretary Mark Esper, who fucking hates Stephen Miller, reportedly opposed the plan and it was eventually abandoned. It was evil, but stupid. Hmm. Now... On December 14th, 2020, after Trump failed to get the results overturned of the election in courts and state legislatures, Stephen Miller went on TV and described a planned.
to send alternate slates of electors to Congress. That day, as the official Electoral College votes were being tallied, groups of self-appointed Republican alternate electors met in seven swing states and drafted fraudulent certificates of ascertainment. Since these alternate states were not...
Slates. Since these alternate slates were not signed by the governors or secretaries of state of the states they claimed to represent, they had no legal status. They... god but they could have been introduced as challenges to uh the actual real election results when congress counted the votes on january 6th you know then you know then
The watchdog group American Oversight published the documents in March 2021, but they received little attention till January 22 when people were actually paying attention to this shit. Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel announced that in January 2022, after a months-long investigation, she asked the U.S. Department to open a criminal investigation. I don't know how he wasn't arrested after that, but there you go.
Matt Gaetz wasn't arrested. For all the crimes. For all the crimes. Hey, you know how Stephen Miller was Trump's speechwriter? Right, yes, because Trump famously follows a speech. Do you know who wrote his remarks for the crowd on January 6, 2021? Something that never gets talked about? Our girl, Steve.
Our girl Steepi! Oh my god. It wasn't just a result of his atrophied brainstem. He isn't credited enough for it. I know. He isn't credited enough for it. Hey, get your speech writing credits in. Ugh.
¶ Post-Trump Activities, Future Discussions
What did Miller do during the downtime of the Biden administration? Well, on April 7th, 2021, he launched the America First Legal Foundation, a conservative legal organization. Obviously, he wasn't going to found a liberal legal organization. No ghost visited him on Christmas. He doesn't have a background in law. That's also true. He's famously not a lawyer.
Not a lawyer, Stephen Miller. The foundation was listed as a supporter of Project 2025 and appeared on its advisory board. It had an advisory board? Through the foundation... Sorry, though the foundation later asked to be removed from it, Miller himself appeared in a promotional video for Project 2025. It had promotional videos?
Yikes. The foundation filed dozens of lawsuits regarding topics including immigration, education, affirmative action, transgender rights. So really everything you expected. On September... 8th, 2022, Miller was subpoenaed by a federal grand jury investigation looking into attempts to overturn the election with special focus on the Capitol attack. There were...
No meaningful consequences. Of course not. Why would there be? Yes. Why would there be meaningful consequences to actions? Why? Oh, why? Oh, why would there be? I would love to say then he just faded off into the ether, but we got an entire... seven more months of the second Trump administration. Do you want that to go ahead and be a part three? Because we are at like...
An hour and a half. I don't remember what episode we first expressed this, but I was talking about these fucking guys. And I just really want them to fucking have a vacation. They're so productive. I need them to fucking relax. During the Biden administration he did the closest thing that he's ever going to do to take a vacation which was he got married.
And judging by the birthdates of his children, he did not get off of that woman. Yuck. It's gross. We'll talk about it more next time. That's going to be all for us this week, folks.
¶ Self-Care Tips and Podcast Outro
Oh, do we not have a self-care plan? I'm sort of mid-episode. We have a bonus self-care plan. Can't that be our self-care? I guess, so, in lieu of a self-care plan, what I'm going to say is that your girl, Ren Martinez, is going to the beach next week. Actually, when this episode airs, I'll be at the fucking beach. And it's going to be rad as fuck. So make sure that you use your well-earned PTO. That is your money and you need it now, meaning a vacation.
Don't be afraid to take your PTO. Any employer that tries to keep you from taking it, they can go fuck themselves. Find a new job as best you can. I know it's hard. It's easier said than done. While you're on vacation, make sure that you plan things, but also...
Plan to relax. Yes. I think so many people want to shove too much stuff in their vacation and don't leave enough time for fucking off. Make sure you just fuck off on your vacation as well. If you are planning more than one activity per day that is not... food, you might be doing too much. You might be doing too much. And then the last thing is wear SPF. You want to make sure that even if you're, you know, again, roasted my dad.
Roasting my dad, Señor Martinez, a white man. El Gringo Martinez. El Gringo Martinez. This is a man that doesn't like to wear sunscreen on cloudy days because he's like, well, there's clouds. There must not be sun. And I'm like, you're supposed to be smart. You're an accountant. Fucking dumb shit. That doesn't mean he's smart. It just means he can add. You've had to have fucking, like, pre-melanoma shit removed from your face twice.
You piece of shit. Wear your goddamn sunscreen. Anywho, I think that actually might be all for us this week, folks. If you like what you're hearing, you should check us out on this effinguypod on all the social medias. As always, I'm Ginger Golub. And I'm Ren Martinez. Here's a bonus self-care tip. it's time to apply for a passport the time was months ago but better today than never yikes and don't be this fucking guy peace Fucking...
