So as the recording of this podcast. A big thing that happened during this past week was that Apple event where they introduce new products like a new watch. They introduce new features on the iPhone, which I'm super excited about. But the big news, the thing that made headlines is that new is it
called Apple Vision. Yeah, I know Vision is in there, but it's there VR headset set, but I heard it's just it's more than like what's out right now with like the meta with that headset and watching it super impressive, right, Yeah, I mean you can use it where for video games, you can use it watching movies. It's interactive without a controller, so just by body movements and hand gestures you can control it. So the technology is definitely there. They said. The technology on this one is out of
this world. Where there was one thing I was watching where you set it up by scanning your eyes. So once it scans your eyes and it knows the person using it the way the cursor or not even the cursor, but it highlights what you want to click on is your your eyes. Just look at it and it knows like it targets what you're looking at specifically, so you could like if you want to use your phone, you just look at that icon. Just looking at it highlights it and you click by putting your
finger and thumb together. It's crazy. Now. I have a few thoughts, but I guess the number one big thing was they announced the price, which is almost four grands. You know, I'm saying four grand because yeah, exactly, there's a video that's going viral right now when they say and I like how it's not a human person saying it. It was like a recording presentation. So it's like and the price is and the crowd just goes, oh my god, really have that video? Yeah, there's a video
of like after groaning. Yeah, and that would have been me too, like four grand. Yeah. But then there's a peason to me that thinks people are gonna buy this ship. Yeah, there's gonna there's definitely gonna be some people buying it, but as far as just like a regular average consumer, probably not right. Yeah, the rich folks are gonna buy it. But my second thought to this headset, I see it more of a toy. Yeah, like a game, right, Like you're not gonna wear this
out in public? No, And it's almost like they kind of suggested that's what you would do, like you would just wear it around because it does. It does more than games. Like everything is on there, whatever's on your phone, whatever's on your computer is on there. Whatever you're you know, you're what is it like the Alexa all that stuff, everything's on there. I heard that this sound is impeccable, like, but again, to
me, it's not. It's a luxury item. Yeah. Well also I don't okay, let's just say yeah, it's it's gonna be used more for in your home. I don't want to wear something the I'm trying to relax when I get home from work. Um, I'm not trying to watch a whole movie with that thing on. Yeah. They did an example of on
a plane. That sounds fun, like, you know, because it has like a feature where because it's it's that those those goggles where you could still see the real life and it's screens within that, but there's a feature where that all disappears and all you see is like a big movie theater screen. And um, I'm all about comfort and this thing could be comfortable, but it's big, but it's still something on your head. So to me, just like other toys, people are going to get tired of it and not
want to use it. And I'm basing this off um, my sister's family. You know, my nephews have the list, which we've had fun with it. I have the Oculus too. I hardly use it. I've hardly seen my nephews use it. Yeah, after the first time we used it, I've never wanted to use it again. Um. But that's how I see this name four grand for something that you're gonna use once in a while, or you're gonna use it a bunch the first time you get it,
Yeah, and you're gonna get tired of it. So I feel the same way in the price, just that alone, I don't think it's gonna last right now in the world we live in. I feel like it's not practical. No, definitely not definitely not for that price. Now, if they came out with their home, their own like VR set sort of like or the Oculus, and it was just for games and you could do things like
that on it, yeah that's cool. But they're trying to push it as like an every day use thing that you can use it for multiple things. And to your point, I just don't think people are gonna want to do that, strap it on, to watch the movie, to play my apps, to play a game, to walk outside. No, it's just it's it's too expensive and it's too big to be in every day use type of
thing. It's crazy house. Sometimes we don't plan these, uh you know, pre topics for the episodes, but it kind of has something to do with what we're about to talk about, kind of kind of okay, yeah, we'll get into it. Yeah, let's go. This could give me fire podcasts up. I'm Jizo. That is John Magic, and we are back. Welcome to this episode of Generation What is the generation gap or generational gap? Which which makes sense to you? I feel like generational gap rolls
off the tongue a little bit better. That's weird because I was gonna say generation gap time tongue better clearly not all right, then you win that one. I might have to google it and see what the first thing it comes up with. Yeah, are you looking at it up right now? Look it up right now, and then that's gonna be the title. Obviously, we record this first before we come up with the titles, so you're already seeing what we chose. I mean, generation gap, our generational gap did
pop up? Right now, Okay, let's see if anything generation gap. Man, I don't know why generation gap sounds right to me, but if if, I mean they did pop both pop up, but which But you saw generational gap first, because I'll go with that. Oh, here we go, I did which which wins? Well, I tapped in generation gap or generational gap? In generation gap popped up first. So maybe you're right, Uh, generation gap. I think it's generation gap. Whatever, we'll
figure it out later. All right, Well, a lot of our topics obviously come from real life shit that happens in our lives and we're like, oh my god, this is something to talk about. This is a good topic. So what happened just recently? And uh, I don't don't. I'm not gonna name any names. Obviously he's gonna know who it is. Um, So it's not as it's not a dis So it's my assistant. I mean, if you're listening to this episode, this is not a disc
because we understand the age gap, the generational gap. And I just said I did that on purpose, by the way, And so he's my assistant and I needed him to do some task and one of the task I have him do as prize fulfillment, where either people come to our radio station to pick up prizes, or we email them their prizes if the tickets are electronic, or sometimes we do have to send tickets out to different cities. Physics physical and that's all we have is physical tickets. So what do we have
to do. We have to mail it out sail snail mail, which sometimes we do. So I told him, Hey, these are winners that we need to send these to Bakersfield. So, uh, we're going to mail them out. Here's the envelopes, here are the tickets, here are the people's address, and I'm like, on top, just put our address, you know, our station address. Well, when I came back, he leaves her the day and I came back to kind of organize the mail,
and I see what he left. I realized that he wrote on that envelope totally wrong, totally random, random, where where he wrote the information of who to send it to? Our info and it just clicked. Kids these days are not being taught how to write on an envelope, write on an envelope to send a letter, because who does that anymore? So where did he have the writing? It was he almost used the whole envelope as like
a paper. Okay, from across, like all across. So obviously most people out there know that in the middle of the envelope is where you put the who you're sending it, sending it, and then the top left corner is the is your address in it? But even even further it's you know, typically it's the name, and then the second line is the street, the street, and then about the city and zip code. The third line is exactly is that? So he just wrote like, wow, okay,
yeah, no, dis he's I think twenty two years old. I believe, wow. And it made me think there's things that kids don't really know today because you don't really sense stuff exactly. That's why there's no judgment because kids today don't when is the last when is you know, when have they had to send a letter? Yeah? Yeah? And do they even teach this, teach this thing anymore in school, which I don't think they do.
I remember in school. I think it might have been elementary, yeah, because we used to do like, you know, you'd have pen pals or you would send a letter to I don't know, Santa Claus or yeah, whatever, you would so they taught us how to send and the structure of it, and so it's just so natural. But yeah, you're right. I guess, like if they don't teach it anymore, you just don't know. So God is thinking, and God is thinking about the generation gap.
I did that on purpose too, of what are some things that kids don't know today? Or did it? Did I find weird how someone doesn't know that because it's so natural to us. I guess, yeah, for sure. And we came up with a list of a few things that, uh, just came top of mind that, yeah, that kids might not even know today. And I'll even start with this. I saw a TikTok challenge where parents were showing their kids a rotary phone, and obviously the kids
know it's a phone. So the challenge I see on TikTok is they tell their kids, how do you dial my number? They're all trying to press it. Man, they do not understand the whole where you put your finger in and then you spin it and then you pick the next number. They were so confused. Wow. And so that's an example of kind of like what we want to talk about. Did you ever use one of those phones growing up. Did really I did. My parents had it when I was
a young, young kid. I don't ever remember I remember using one, but just maybe sparsely, maybe like my grandma had it or something. But for the most part, like, I don't think my parents ever had one. Remember maybe they did because I knew how to use one. But yeah, those are funny, But I'm imagining when you were using it, you were like, oh cool. I remember these things during when I was a child. And when I say child, maybe when I was five or six.
That was a norm to us, like this is how this is what phones look like. Got you. Yeah, these were probably being phased out by the time I. Yeah, well they were getting phased out too as I got a little older, like seven or eight, than the big, the touch you know those phones came out, and then the cordless was the game changer. The next one, Yeah, that was a game changer. M yeah, so phone that man, I mean we could even go to
cell phones. How cell phones were different back then? So big? Um, Yeah, you can only dial and that was it, no text messaging or nothing. Um, what kind of what was your first cell phone? My first was I think it was a Nokia wasn't that was like feel like that was classic for everybody to get their first phone. Snake. Oh yeah, yeah, it wasn't my first phone. But I just want to say, my dad had those brick cell phones stuff, those brick yeah, yeah,
yeah, that's like eighties. Yea, yeah, I remember my dad had one of them, had that long assi antenna. But even before that, pagers. That is true, Even before that cell phones were pagers. And I even actually had a pager in middle school. Actually had no business having a patriot because honestly, I was like one of the only kids in school that had a pager. It was a motor rolla so I had that perfect small rectangle that you looked at the screen on the top. Yep,
that's the one I had. And it was only numbers. People can page you a number, and basically that's what it was used for. It's when you get paid, you call back that number. Yeah. And side note of the pager thing, the pager culture. Correct me if I'm wrong. It was in the It was for selling drugs, wasn't it. It's kind of like where Yeah, it's kind of like where that A lot of people used it. Yeah, like they page like yo, I need, yeah,
you know, meet me at the place or whatever. But the reason why I bring that up is before I had my pager, I had a friend a classmate, and I'm I'm thinking this was my freshman year or junior year in high school, and I've never seen anyone really have a pager before, and it hasn't blown up yet publicly. But he got Paige and I was like, Yo, what is that? And he was like, it's
a pager? Like what are you use it for? And I remember, I don't know why this is a core memory for me, but he just laughed at me like it's it's almost like he dismissed me, like it's okay, like he sunned you. Yeah, He's be like and it kid. Later on I found out it is because he was selling drugs. Oh damn. Yeah, that makes sense because that's what it was known for. So for me being naive and asking him, yo, why do you have that? Any him? A lot of people like that worked certain jobs had him,
like I remember my dad had one. Maybe he was like he had like a lot of encole stuff to do. But I mean, the concept was weird because essentially, just a notification is essentially what it is, right, it is because someone's paging you to be like, ay call me. And we didn't have cell phones, so you'd either have to find a phone, or maybe if you were at home, you could just call from home. A pay phone would be the one if you're out in the streets.
But yeah, I had one. I didn't really need it. I just wanted it to be cool. Well that goes to what I was gonna say next. Then it became a social thing. Yeah, where I remember phone shops started selling pagers by the millions because it became a thing. You had to have one to be cool. Yeah. Then they really started getting cool with like different colors. You could switch out the plates because it all started with Joe's black. Yeah, just to black with the top screen. Then
they had like the like the landscape view screen. But when you started yours, would it just numbers? Yeah, it was just it was like that motor roller where it just had the two the two numbers or the two buttons. Yeah, and then you can either do you switch up the thing for vibrates or you can switch it up to offer tone. Oh my gosh. And it was just that, Yeah, it was. It was stupid. But where it became fun is people were creative and you can kind of leave
messages on the pager using numbers numbers because letters were not a thing. You could not put letters on the pager. So what did we do as kids. We turned numbers into letters. And I'm not talking about code like one one means a too be No, we made letters numbers to letters. For example, an M, the letter M would be one seven seven Yeah, okay, can you can you guys imagine it one seven to seven and Anne
would be one seven yeah, oh obviously would be zero. Yeah. There's the easier ones, like an eight is a B eight that was always good, or a seven could be an L at three is an E. Yeah, and you would always get to know your friend's personalities because like you said, some people would use seven as LA, but no, some would use that as a T only T and L would just be one. But then but that also could be an eye. So basically we were sending text messages
before that was even a thing. Essentially. One story I'll leave it with this is I was at the park playing with my friends. I think we're playing basketball, and then I get a beep and the beep. Was just this a bunch of numbers, just a bunch of numbers just kept coming in, kept coming in, And it was a full on paragraph of my friend basically needing a ride. It was an emergency picked me up from this church,
like named the church, and I knew it. And the funny thing is I knew exactly what that page said really not even having a call. I read, no, you don't need to call, like and then um, yeah, I was on my way to go, like this person up just because of that page that I understood with numbers. Yeah, that's crazy. Oh man pages? All right, what's something else that kids won't know?
Um, cassette tapes? Yeah, I mean before that, I remember my dad having a tracks which was essentially like a bigger tape, right yeah, And to me that was like whoa, this is cool, Like that wasn't my eight tracks, weren't my generation, but I knew how to use it from how because of my parents. But yeah, cassette tapes were more my thing. Essentially looked like a smaller VHS and there was two sides, two sides sideay, side B. You just flip it around. You can
rewind it with your hand. If you needed to, but yeah, it was just tape essentially ringed around like a cassette. Yeah, and that's how I got my music. Yeah, did you ever used to like record on tapes? I get blank tapes and record like off the radio. That was so old school. I remember growing up listening to like B ninety five and it like you can kind of tell that your song was gonna come on and you just had to it record, you know what I'm saying, hopefully the
DJ talking about the fuck it up? Then after that, something that kids might not know about today's CDs. Yeah, that's a weird one because I feel like, I mean, you can technically still buy CDs and they're still set in stores here and there. But it is weird to me when I see someone that is this. Seems like they would be the h to know what a CD is and they don't, and it's just like, how do
you not know? Like, yeah, CDs are getting outdated, but there's one they're still technically around, and two they they're not outdated that fast. I mean, we were still giving out CDs here when I when I got to this job, and I don't know, I don't know if some people are just not cultured or some people don't don't do a lot of research into
the past. But I remember seeing things that I didn't necessarily grow up with, but I knew what they were, like old technology things like like I wasn't in the A track era, but I knew what an A track was growing up. But I don't know, maybe just because I had parents that were like pretty cultured, so they taught me a lot of like the things that they grew up with. So I was never like, what, like
a lot of things weren't really that like weird to me. Oh, I mean at some point they were, obviously, But I feel like I grew up pretty good knowing a lot of about technology. But I'm also a fan of history, so yeah, maybe that's part of it. I was just gonna say, for a kid to do that today, they would have to be somewhat interested. Yeah. Yeah, I was always interested in like old shit, like even to this day, like watching you know those shows where
they find like old ship, it's like interesting to me. I just did a TikTok video on my TikTok about musicians. You know, it's common for our industry for musicians to want to hear their music. Yeah. And I was talking about this on my TikTok that I'm still getting handed CDs and like I said, bro, I don't even own a CD player anymore, Like, how am I gonna play this? Yeah? I was like at the Hollywood Boulevard like a few months ago, and there's like dudes out there that
still try to sling their CDs. Like, Bro, I couldn't even play this if I wanted to. I don't even have a CD player. Yeah. I mean even on my side, on the radio side, where companies try to, you know, do some giveaways with contests. Yeah, and there's this one company that keeps emailing me like, hey, can we send you the CDs for giveaways? And I think he's getting tired of me ignoring his email because I always ignore it because we don't need it. Yeah,
who's gonna get that? Yeah? So man, just like the kids today, I want to forget about CUM. There's a thing that kids won't know today is floppy disc. Yeah. I use floppy disc growing up, but I started those started to phase out a little bit when CDs became the new thing to save stuff on the floppy disc was weird, man, that was like a weird device. It was a square plastic and then on the inside it had like I think, like a film looking thing that would save it
on there. Right. Yeah. Did you ever have like those floppy disks cases where you just put all your floppy disks and you write on like what it was in there? Yes, and this was the soft floppy. Remember there's a soft one, and then they came out with the hard Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was using like the softer ones. Uh. Well, I bring that up because on one of our programs where we save prize winners, the save button is a picture of a floppy disk.
Yeah, and again with my assistant who is in his early early twenties, and I'm like, hey, so he just clicked save by clicking the floppy disk and he was so good. You was like where like and I'm all, you know, the picture of the floppy disc. The floppy disk, though, is still kind of a save icon on a lot of programs.
So yeah, so they're still keeping that around. And now it's funny because kids are probably just gonna be like, oh, that's the save icon, But like, no, back in the days, it really was something physical. Let me ask you if you could think of like a new floppy I'm sorry, a new save icon. What would be today's save icon, just like an S so the square. Yeah, I'll go with that.
Let's stick with this whole computer thing. Because another thing that kids won't know because we have computers on our hands now with our phones was before our era, before you know, our parents, they used to use maps, the actual paper maps. Debt would unfold this big map and it's so crazy.
I remember, like distinctively, going on vacation with my dad and he would have the map open, like my mom would have it open, and to be like looking over and you just you see the line, like hundreds of lines with like numbers, and like they would just follow that like you would. You would, only you would almost need a magnifying glasses now you would
to see how they wouldn't show like landmarks or anything. Like you wouldn't be like, oh, this is where the McDonald's at, Like no, you just see street names and you just have to figure it out from there. There's not even addresses on there a lot of the times. And then the one that you would really have to do is pull over to the gas station and maybe asking one of the locals where someone was at. But yeah,
for the most part, you're just following this map. Sometimes you would have map you would have to get a marker and you know, you open the map and kind of mark where you're gonna go with a highlighter. Yeah, so you kind of see like this where you're going, but it was more of a you had to visually kind of look and okay, when we someone pay attention, when we see the street, the map tells us to you
know, to get off. So then on I believe our era of when we started driving, Google Maps was available to map quests or map Oh. Yes, basically it was on the computer. You went to that map quest site. Yeah, type where you're you're starting, and you type where you're gonna go, and boom, it tells you. So essentially what you see like on Google Maps or Apple Maps, but on like a physical form on
piece of paper. Well it was on the computer. Then you had to print it out, so you would get like the layouts of the map and then you would get the like the play by player that's not what it's called. But then you would print both and then you have your piece of paper and you would just follow the directions on the paper and I used So that's that was my driving era when I was like seventeen eighteen nineteen. Yeah, it was yeah, mav quests, Google maps and actually, yeah, I
think mav quest is what I use own. Yeah, and that's how I got to my friend's house that lived in different cities. Yeah. Now, I mean we just have it on our phones or like devices, smart devices, and it just tells us. You were telling me a story. This is more your story, tell me the story about checks. H Yeah,
checks. I mean I still write a check here and there for some of bills that I have that it's like fucking annoying, but it's just some people still to this day don't know how to ride a check and that one kind of baffles me. And writing a check was actually something I distinctively remember this again, learning in sixth grade. I actually don't even know why I learned so soon, but I remember our teacher was like, you're gonna have to learn how to ride a check on these days, and he like drew out
like a blank check. I was like, oh, this is where your name goes, this is like where the amount goes. And it made sense to me and I've wrote checks growing up. Obviously I don't do it so much anymore, but I still do have a checkbook for those times that I still technically have to write a check. And it's just to me, it's weird that people don't know how to write a check. And again, like
I feel like checks are dated, but not that. I mean, we still get a check, right, some people get directed positive, but I don't know. You see it in movies. You would just think that people would know, But I guess people still don't know how to write a check. That's that baffles me. Yeah, obviously we were in the eras where we were writing a lot of checks. But no, I don't own a checkbook anymore. Yeah, you slide your card, you scan your phone.
Yeah. The checkbook story I have is my mom would be this is where I get it from. By the way, my little OCD tendencies. My mom, she was impeccable with organizing her check because if you remember people that remember how to use checks, it would come in that Booklet get a balance sheet. Yes, yeah, my mom would balance that too. My mom
was impeccable with that, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't because during the times I would use checks to pay my bills, my car pain, yeah, this and that, and I would just pay it and that would be it. But my mom would yell at me, like you, well, how much I can balance this? Yeah it was mine was never balanced. You had like the credit and debit side. It's crazy, man, But hers was like every time she wrote a check right away, balanced it right away. Um. But maybe that's where I get it from now. But yeah,
I never balanced it. Um, I haven't used the check in years. So when was the last time you wrote a check? Or when? When do you still need to? I still need to on some bills here and there because some places like don't take that whether they don't do like take out of my direct deposit or I can't like they don't have like an app saw stuff. So the business is sort of out of date. Yeah, basically it's not me. It's just like what I have to deal with.
So that's anning. So I still have checks, I just don't use them that often. But I don't know, it's it's weird. It's like why am I still doing this? Like I can't you kind of just get direct, like directly take it out of my account. But now they're still doing it the old way. So wait. My question to that is, obviously you probably still have a few checks in your check book, but once you run out, are you going to the bank to get a new one?
I ordered them and they just sent them to me. Okay, yeah, I don't have to like go to the bank because I was going to ask, how did they react to you? Like what you want to? Still want to check it? Open up the vault? Yeah, I mean that's all I had them. Is there anything else in your head that kids might not? Maybe? I don't know, just because today, oddly enough, today's National VCR Day. I just saw that the VCR that was kind of like an era of having rewinding them be kind rewind. So are you when
you started using that? Do you do you just remember using VHS? Because I'm a little older than you. Oh, so there's something before VHS? Okay, what which one was this? Beta Max? Oh? Okay, maybe this is something I don't know. So you know how VHS obviously you'll know what it looks like with the two circles. It's a big looks like tape. Yeah. Beta Max was just one circle and it looked it was
a little smaller. It was a square almost almost a little thicker than the square, but it was a little a chunky guy, but it only had one circle like real. Yeah, well that's all they showed. I think there's another real hidden Okay on the black side. It wasn't the same design, but Beta max is what what I started with that my parents used. Yeah, so, and then it went to VHS after that. Okay, yeah, VHS was an era VCRs. I remember my dad had like a
nice VHS collection, and my dad was big on movies. And then when DVDs came around, he held on for a long time and I was like, Dad, you got to like this is the new. And then once he decided to do DVDs, then DVDs started facing out so like late to the game. But I don't know, man, I mean when we talk about DVDs CDs, I mean, I don't want to sound like an old head, but I mean there is something to be said about that physical copy.
Obviously, like I'll never go back in time, like it's fucking convenient that we can pull up movies on the screen stream stuff. Um, But I mean, I mean there was something to be said about those physical hard copy CDs you open it up. Sometimes it come with a poster that come with a little booklet. I don't know. And now it's just like, oh, the new album's coming out, Like oh, I'll just launched my phone on Friday when album comes out. I don't know. It's just something.
It's a little different, but it is what it is. Yeah. I believe also too that it's not that because there are some of those old heads that hate on the technology and their mind is still like I wish it was still this way. Yeah. No, we're kind of just reminiscing U. Yeah. It's nostalgia. Yeah, I mean like that's how we grew up. Yeah, especially like the old Disney Disney movies they come in that little like booklet type of Yeah. Yeah that wasn't it, Like plastic plastic.
I mean I could just hear it to this day. I could smell that plastic and yeah, I mean I'm never wanted. It's like my dad and mom. There's there are people that fight against technology like it's bad. Really, like they refuse to like eventually when they have to, and then they're like behind and then I have to like tell them like, yeah, this is why I tell you guys like you got to keep up with like, don't fight it. They'll still fight it. They'll still fight it.
So I've never wanted to fight technology. Obviously I'm up on everything, but it is something to be said about, you know, back in the days growing up and having those things. That's why I'm enjoying watching my parents. They're I mean when I say they're new, maybe five six years my parents just started using iPhones because now that they were against it in their heads,
they just didn't need that technology. Yeah, but in the past five six years, it's just the joy I see in their faces where they could zoom their friends from different countries, different cities, across the states. It's they just enjoy it. So it's cool to see them using the technology. But the classic common thing that all us and all the kids meaning in our age range, No, it's the parents always saying, hey, how do you how do you hang this up? There's the law near it. It's all
like these little things, Mom, you just turn it off. You click this to turn it on. I mean to this day, like when my mom comes and visits, she always has at least one question like hey, can you check my phone? Like why is it doing this, and it's and it's always like it's just doing like, no, Mom, like you pressed something. At some point, you accidentally pressed something, you know what I'm saying. And she's just like, I don't know why, it's just
doing this. Before it was doing this, and it's like, yeah, mom, because at some point you accidentally pressed something. But I'll fix it for you. And then I have to fix it. But I mean, it's funny. I mean, I'll leave it with this because this was from mister Chalk years ago, who's mister Talk was a DJ that I used to work with in La Radio and Serato was first coming out the new technology of
yo, guys, we don't have to use records anymore. Everything can be on the computer, and there were still people it was that error where people were sort of against it. Still you're not a real DJA. And he said this, he said, if you don't follow technology, you'll be left behind. So I'm gonna leave it with that.