Do You Believe in Psychic/Mediums? - Episode: 150

I'm not sure if it's a website. This was years ago, but it's called miss Connections. Are you familiar with misconnections?

No?

Okay, man, I'm trying to remember.

Because this is when I was doing radio in Riverside at KGGI, and one of our bits was the I E. Misconnections, and I'm trying to I think it was a website called mis connections or it was a site, And then you go to the misconnections section and basically it's just a bunch of stories that people will put if they had a misconnection.

For example, there was one that said.

I was pumping gas at on the corner of Riverside and Rialto and there was this girl that I saw there and we didn't talk to each other, and we just after we pumped the gas, we both left. If this was you, email me at and then they leave their email.

So that's actually not like a bad premise. Yeah, so you can go up there and say that you saw somebody you thought maybe you had some eye connection, and then they could go on there and maybe find you too, or somebody could maybe reached out and help you out or something like that.

Yeah, And it's a bunch of stories.

I remember it was one of our bits on the radio station because we would just.

Read them and then you can help people exactly.

We would say like, call in if this.

Is you, that's actually not a bad bit, right, I just steal that is that we got to look this website up.

Yeah.

Yeah, But misconnections. And the reason why I bring that up. I had a misconnection just recently. This passed for my birthday weekend. Yeah, this is a perfect example of a misconnection.

But you but the two people have to be on the same page, right, because what if one person thought there was a connection and there was just like.

Nah, but no both Sometimes it's a one sided thing. All these stories that you'll see on the website from misconnections, it could nothing can ever come out of it because no one could know what that was.

Is it more just for fun reading the stories?

Yes, it was more for fundsies because there's some wild ones on there. I wish I could think of some I could remember some of the wild ones.

But now, when you were doing the bit on the radio, was it to get people to connect with that person.

Or hopefully someone would call in and be like, well it's me yeah, or I know who that.

Person is or something like. It was rare.

It was rare, but sometimes it did. It was rare, but people called in thinking like I think that was my.

Cousin or something.

But okay, but you but usually, like I said, the person posting it. It's almost like it's just a hopeful if someone sees.

This out there in the world.

Yeah, but we gotta try to remember what side of it is. But misconnections, and mine, mine is a real misconnection where your side, I was gonna say, it could be it could be just one sided. So I was at the club DJ in one of my birthday parties in town.

Wait are we doing one right now? Because if this person is listening to the podcast WHOA and this connection?

So I was DJ You know, I won't I won't go to detailed on it, but I was DJing. I caught a girl's eye, but she was with a guy, and correct, tell me if you feel the same way. Sometimes you could tell that two people are a couple, and then sometimes you could tell these people are just on a date, right.

Or even friends. Yeah, I get that.

I get that there's an energy where you could obviously you could be wrong because you're just assuming. But usually we're right you you could tell if someone's on a date, if they're together. Well, anyways, I caught a girl's eye and she was looking at me too. We were staring at each other. But she was, what it seemed like to me, on a date. And so in my head, I'm like, fuck, I'm not gonna talk to her because

Her, you were locking eyes.

We were locking eyes for half the night, okay, Like she would sneak in a look like when the guy's not looking. She would sneak in a look. And I was djaying, and I'm like, I'm gonna stare at you, like until you almost uncomfortably. Yeah, But no, she kept like looking and she can't. She didn't give like a creepy face, like yo, why are you staring at me?

So did she ever say anything to you? Do you ever say anything to her.

No, because she was always with the dude.

Now I was thinking, I need like, how do I say something to her, just a hello, or even like are you staring at me?

This sort of thing, Yeah, because you don't want to be out of pockecast date. However, if she's staring that hard at you, I don't know, maybe this dude is maybe just a friend, or maybe she's not feeling the dude yet.

There it didn't look romantic.

They were they kissing at all, so it could have been just, oh, that's weird to go on a date like that.

It felt like a date. Though it felt it felt like a date.

Maybe she was trying to tell you, like help me.

Someone didn't say that when she gave me the eyes like please help me. No, it looked like they were having a good time. But again I'm like, yo, am I crazy?

Are you still look like? Are you looking at me? So?

Throughout the club, you know it, as the night goes on, I have I'm working, so I can't focus on that. She kind of disappears. But yeah, she disappeared like a you know, at the end of the night, I didn't see them anymore. And there's a piece of me that regrets it because there's like a misconnection, because what if we become good friends. What if you know, I met her and she's like super cool and the night was over.

Did you go look at tag photos?

No?

Man, it was just like it was a misconnection. So I kind of just forget about it, go to bed. Six am in the morning, I wake up and I check my Instagram and I have one follow, a new follower, and it tells you when day followed. So it said like three hours ago, which would be like three am. And I her page was private, but you could still click on the picture though profile and enlarges it. And I enlarged it and I go, wait a minute, is.

Is this her? I mean the timing would be right, kind of like after the club. Maybe she followed you three am.

I mean yeah, because you know, throughout the night, I'm saying my name throughout the nightclub, and I'm like and I'm looking at the picture and obviously I was looking at the girl just a few hours ago. So I'm like, I think it's her. I'm not one sure, but it's short. It resembles what I was looking at last night, and so I followed back. And now I just have to wait till they be private. Yeah, they have to refollow me before I see the page. I actually don't get

Not this story was going somewhere, was married kids.

The dude was not the same dude that was at the club. I'm like, oh, this is not her. So hence a misconnection. Misconnection.

Did you want to follow that girl? No, I'm not gonna you know whatever, Like you were only going to follow her because you wanted to see if that was her, and when it was not her like all right.

All unfolloww but not like not. I don't want to be all abrupt and unfollow.

I do like that.

Okay, so that was a misconnection. But you're right, what, man, what if she's listening?

Yeah, maybe she is. If you were at was a standard on Friday, and if you were eyeing the DJ, listen reach out to us the wild side.

The wild part of the story is like what you said, what if it's just one sided? And she was looking like, yo, stop staring.

At I'm staring at you because I'm like, you mean mugging you like I.

Wasn't the energy though, that was not the energy.

This could give me fire podcast? What up? I'm gise that is John Magic and we are back.

I mean, we're just gonna get into it. I mean, the title says it all. Do you believe in psychics? And if I was gonna give you my answer, if I it's a it's a complicated answer.

But do I believe in psychic ability? Yes?

Do I believe in the people that profit from being a psychic?

No?

Okay, so that's my my simple, complicated answer.

My mind's even simpler than that. No. Uh, well, do you want to talk about like why we kind of got into this topic or should we just kind of start talking about No.

I mean we could start talking about because there's there's different We've always talked about this before. It's uh, you know when I oh, just like you know, we're talking about radio bits and the radio bits. One of the radio bits we had in Riverside. When I was doing morning radio, there was once a week to no once every two weeks, we had a psychic on and it was like entertaining. But I did notice some things that we're gonna get into detail a little bit, but.

We would just talk about it.

Yeah, and then just as of late, and by the way, my sister recently got a psychic because my dad passed away recently. And if she's listening to this, this is nothing. I'm not trying to be negative about it. This is more I want to talk about my experience, and you know, different people have different experiences and that's fine. And like I said with my answer, do I believe in psychic abilities? I do, Actually I believe in that energy.

Yeah, I'm gonna ahead and tell that real quick, because I do want to make that clear that we're not here to you know, judge anybody if that's something that you believe in. But this is just like our own take on it from our own either experiences or just being around it, or just how we feel about it. So how my opinion about it shouldn't change your opinion or if it does, whatever, you know what I'm saying,

I mean we could just go from there about what you said.

If the individual that's believing in it, if they're getting something out of it, some comfort, closure, some even some entertainment from it, yeah, then yeah that's great. Yeah, that's great, Like enjoy life, get as much as you can out of the life we live.

So I agree with you. If it's something that is serving them, that.

They believe in and you don't mind paying for it or whatever, then that yeah, that's on you.

Yeah, I mean I believe that.

You know, I'm a firm of you control your own life. So whatever however you want to live it and what you believe in. It's just like religion to it's what are.

Yeah, we're not here to change anybody. Yes, it's just our own, our own outlook on it.

This is more yeah, I mean it could even just be more for entertainment, like what we experience.

I'm sure you got some good stories over.

There, psychics, So yeah, the The reason why I say no on the people that profit from it is because I've been around a few and we've seen the TV shows.

There's a bunch of TV shows.

I forget the guy's name, but one of the guys actually lives in the five five nine, and he's famous. He's the one that does the celebrity ones, young kid, blonde hair.

He does shows out here.

Oh okay, so before we get into it, let me ask you. You might know, is there a different stoke because I know we're saying psychics, but is there a difference to the people that can talk to the dead compare to the people that can tell you?

Oh?

Yeah, that's true, Like is that even the same thing? Are we even saying it? Right?

Yeah, that's true.

I don't know, yeah, because I think because there's readers, yeah, the mind readers, Yeah, those the fortune tellers. I guess we're kind of just like grouping it in like the same category. So don't attack us if we're not giving it the right terminology. Because the people that talk to dead, are they even called psychics or they call mediums?

Okay, well, but then I see psychic medium yeah.

Okay, Well, so for the sake of this conversation psychics, we'll just group up everybody under the same umbrella, but in this particular situation, we're talking about people that can talk to the dead.

And you know, we've been in the entertainment industry for years, yeah, twenty plus years that even we know the secrets of entertainment, of editing and all this stuff. So that's why when I see this stuff on TV, it just reminds me of things that we do. We do on the radio side of it, so like we know the editing powers that can manipulate the mind. I mean, we kind of do it in our lives. And I'll give you an example.

What it is.

Basically, like I've been posting my golf videos on my Instagram, and if you watch my golf videos, it's like ten swings that I took that are I'm hitting the ball far and they're all great swings. I'm not going to post the ninety five swings that I took that went horribly.

Yeah, we live in a world where we only show the best versions of ourselves on social media. It's kind of like what you're saying.

Right, So that's the TV side, But I've also been around psychic mediums. Like I said earlier, when I was doing the radio show in Riverside where we had a gentleman every week or so.

Do you remember what his name is?

I don't want to say the name because number one. Well also again like it's we're not it's that. Yes, it's just what I experienced watching this.

Okay, So I guess first of all, talk about this bit and how it worked.

It worked amazing because in my head it was all for entertainment and for me, that's what these cycle mediums are are.

And for our particular job, that's the part we care about what we Alrea, we care about it sounds.

We had to do a bunch of editing because it's so long sometimes and you know us in in terrestrial radio, we're timed.

But there was a bunch of entertaining moments.

Now the part that I've I noticed me you know, we've talked about this before. My DJ name is John Magic. Because I was a magician in my younger days.

They would use tactics.

That I learned in magic tricks. You know, the magician. The magician's rule is you're always right, You're the trick is always gonna work, and you're always right. Even when it doesn't work there we have ways to flip it to make it right still. And that's kind of what I was seeing with these mediums talking to the people is it was a lot of those magic trick skills of kind of being vague about things. Also, something I saw and heard, Like I said, we had this gentleman

So people would call in and you would connect them with the and they would ask about like a dead relative or something like that.

He would even say, don't tell me who it is.

Okay, but they were calling in it about somebody, yep. And then he would tell them like what they're saying, what he sees or.

Yeah, like oh, it's a father figure. And then if they say no, it was my uncle, and then he'll just say, well, yeah, he's like a father figure because he's male, so.

Like that, so like, yeah, what you're saying. They can always flip it in a sense.

And obviously what I'm about to say next is not all the time, but it's what I noticed happened a lot. He'll just say like, oh, he let me guess he passed from cancer in the throat. And when you say cancer in the throat to ten different.

People, you might get lucky.

Six out of ten times you're gonna get lucky. That'll be it to me.

What I'm seeing you just pick the most common things.

Well, they always start off so vague. That's the part that bothers me is it's very vague to where you can kind of you know, like, does anybody in your families have a name that starts with J or whatever?

Like it's pretty vague, right, yes, always the initials.

And then they might be like no, and they might be like, all right, so maybe it's a last name. Like there's always ways around it. But what ends up helping them is when the person gives them the information. That's almost like I mean, I don't want to say this, but it's almost like the worst thing to do right now, you're making it easy for them.

You just said it.

What I've also witnessed is that's also a trick to where you let them to give you the answer, Like you just give a little and let the person just start talking.

And they'll go like yep, yep, yep, that makes sense. That's what I saw.

I could easily say I was just about to.

Say that, yeah, exactly.

So there's just different ways. I mean I could do one. I could do one mind manipulation for you right.

Now on me.

Yeah, okay, but this is more. This is not I'm not going to talk about someone that.

Passed away like crying. No, no, no.

This is more of like an example of like manipulating the mind. So this is a classic pick a number, but between one and fifty. So you're gonna pick a number between one and fifty.

But let's make it.

Let's make it hard, make it a two digit number. And I mean let's even go further than that.

Make it.

Make it an even number, but make each digit two different even numbers. See, so so think of that. Just put it in your head, number between one and fifty. Make it a two digit They both got to be even numbers.

Two different even numbers. You got it? Don't say it, don't say I got it?

All right?

Okay? Okay? Is it twenty four?

No?

Oh okay, what was it?

Twenty two?

Oh? No, see you made Oh oh I just did it. You made two digits the same which I told you not to do.

Oh shit, you're right, my bad can we do that over.

No, it would have been twenty four. I know it.

I know you would have picked twenty four really well, because you picked twenty two.

And yeah, come on, I mean it could have been twenty six.

I know, but I just know it. You would have picked twenty four. And see I'm already manipulating. Yeah, you did, you did, And to be honest with you, that'd have been crazy because you probably would have maybe you would have picked twenty four.

I mean it did cross my mind.

Yeah, so but if you But the trick to that is it's just the words I was using. I say, between one and fifty. That makes it like, oh man, that's a lot of choices. But then I said, no, let's make it a two digit number. So now you're down to eleven to fifty.

Yeah, and then you cut it even in half it with that.

Even half to do with that with evens only, Yeah, and then I even made it smaller than that by saying, but make two of the digits different numbers.

That sounds like some magician shit too.

Well, that's what I'm saying. And I'm kind of glad that you picked twenty two because I still got to manipulate it. To be oh, you would have picked twenty four because you made that and.

Then I realized I made the mistake, like that shit.

Yeah, then you were like, oh fuck, you're right, like I fucked up and you probably.

Then you look more right. Yeah.

So it's a lot of that. Yeah, now we could go to the other end of it. What I've also witnessed with our guest at the radio station during this time is he got some he got some things correct too.

Yeah. I mean you also get lucky.

Yeah. The one that I noticed all the time is he would say I see a move coming soon, like you're moving, and I would say, seventy five percent of the time the person says, yes, I am.

And then he'll or I've been thinking about it yeah.

Or I've been thinking about it, and then he'll say I don't know, but I feel like you're going to Arizona. And again fifty to sixty percent will say like, yes, I am going to Arizona.

Now.

The thing that I noticed is, don't forget I had this guest once every few weeks.

Yeah, it was always Arizona.

Really, he would always say Arizona. I guess he could have switched it up a little bit and.

So I remember going like, no, I don't say Arizona because I'll have to edit it because we already aired that last and stuff.

Back to that.

We're not hating because I'm for the entertainment side of it, because when he did some amazing readings, people were crying and on the air it sounded great, like I said, on the entertainment side of it, and then he would invite us to live shows and this guy would pack out like theater room.

What about on the ethical side of it though, mm.

I don't see. I always took it as entertainment.

But people that don't take it as entertainment and actually believe it though, it.

Just goes back to what we said earlier. It's giving them closure. If it's giving them then hey, I'm a firm believer. If that's what you believe, then that's what is that's your belief in your life.

Yeah, I mean, like you said, you you could be the same with religion or you know whatever.

You know, a lot of people don't believe, like, oh, when you die, you're like, you know, Catholics, we believe we're gonna go to heaven.

We're good.

And some people don't believe that, so I believe. That's so the way I.

Envision life is like whatever we believe is what's gonna happen. That's how I see things.

Whatever we have, whatever belief we have inside us, is what's gonna happen in our afterlife or whatever. So, yeah, I got to see this guy live and man, a lot of crying, a lot of like I said, but it was the same on the radio.

It's very vague. It was hit or miss.

Yeah, And obviously at the end of the day, it still is a skill, like being a magician, to like know where to take the conversation, to get the information that they give you and sort of paint a picture back to them and kind of build this storyline for them. And it is a skill. So I will say that it's not just you know, like I couldn't do it.

You know, earlier I said the ability for these things to happen. I do believe in that side of it, because the mind. I'm a firm believer that the mind is powerful. And also I've experienced things myself. But I'll give you little little examples that's common. Has this ever happened to you where in your head you're singing a song in your head and then you get in your car, turn on the radio and that exact song is playing.

Yeah, stuff like that happens.

It happens a lot.

I believe in coincidence. Well, I was.

About to say to me, there's a thin line between energy and coincidences.

When it comes to that, it could go either or to me, it could go either or that. It's a thin line.

It could be coincidence or er man energy like, because it happens a lot. So that's one. Another common one. You just think about someone and then your phone rings. Again, thin line between coincidence and energy one, you know. Back in like I said, I was doing a lot of magician stuff back in the days. And one of the things I would try to do with friends because now I would just see how far I could go. I would really try to do the mind reading thing. And

And the shock my face, like how did you know? And I was shocked.

Did I know? But again, thin line between coincidence and energy. That's an example, A big example that I will carry forever is uh I moved to Fresno. Uh, I left my family. This was like when I left, first left my family, and then.

When you first moved out here.

When I first moved.

Out here, staying at a hotel at the time, went to sleep, dreamt about my grandfather, like I remember, like I remember the dream. We were talking, conversating and I woke up. My phone rang. When I woke up, it was my mom. She said, my my grandfather passed away.

Yeah, that's wild. So I know this is a little off topic, but on topic because it could be a topic in its own. It is not really dealing with psychics, but dreams. How do you feel about dreams? I know I bring that up because we used to have a dream lady to call the radio station here and she I don't know what you would call her, but she would analyze dreams or explain to people like why they would have these dreams. I always thought it was interesting.

You know?

I mean, you ever wake up like what the fuck was that about? I'm a believer in like I wouldn't be thinking that if I was awake, So why the fuck was I thinking that as a sleep.

Yeah, I think dreams to me my belief it has different levels. There's somewhere because I've heard you could if you really like think about something right before you dream, right before you sleep, there's a good percentage that you'll dream about that.

So that makes sense.

Yeah, But sometimes, like you said, random dreams and dream about my grandfather. I do believe that that's something that is something it's someone trying to communicate, or it's a sign of ability of something that will happen in the future.

I believe in that.

I totally believe in that the mind is like so powerful, so yeah, dreams that that's definitely part of that umbrella of psychic ability that I'm talking about that I do believe in ability that everyone has. And I think every psychic medium will say this. I've heard them say this. Well, they always say in the interviews, Oh, everyone has this. I just kind of focused on it and really studied everything. So shouts out to them for doing that, and then

Yeah, I mean for some people it could give them closure. You know, my mom is somebody that believes in that, and her mom, my grandma, had passed away, so she really feels certain things, like she feels the presence of my grandma or you know, she wants to go to these shows to see if she can, you know, have one of these psychics talk to her and see things like that, and she believes it and it you know, it gives her closure. And so I don't say nothing. You know, well, who am I to like knock that

I mean, you said, you just said it best. I can't even say it any better than that. I agree. And yeah, I mean like again.

Wait, have you ever had the psychic doing anything to you?

Yeah? Oh, I'm glad you said that.

I'm glad you said. Like, while I was on in the phone, i'd be like, hey, can you like work on me a little bit?

I'm glad. Yes. We So.

When I did radio on Riverside, I was the new Hire it was a new show. We only had a two year contract, and he was like one of our big bits on the radio show on our first year and off the air, we would ask, you know, do a reading with us. And I at the time, I was with my long, longtime girlfriend. I was with her for years, and I remember one of the things he said is you guys are gonna get married, like that

We only lasted like a year.

And as I try to gas you up with those two comments.

Yeah, so I get what they're doing, like positive energy, like just say positive things.

And yeah, so that's another thing. They never really say anything negative. But I guess that's like that's not what people are going for. But I mean, wouldn't that make it more realistic?

That's true.

I don't know, bro, I don't think you guys are going to last. Neither is this show. Obviously it's not what you want to hear. But it was more of the truth than what he did say.

That is true. That is true.

But yeah, I do remember he did a reading for us, and everything he said was wrong.

That's funny. Maybe we should put his name out there because this guy is wrong a lot. We don't know paying for this dude.

Can I just say, man, this this guy, he is the nicest. He became one of our friends. You know, since I left that radio station, we have lost touch. I do still see him on social media and he's still traveling doing shows. I mean it's been years since I've seen him, so man again, like.

This is his job.

He's pretty successful getting to travel and doing these shows. So one of the nicest dudes, like he was fun to be around, gave us great entertainment on the radio.

So then he would be one of those that I guess like did both right because he could speak like would he say like, oh I can hear you know this your relative dead person?

Ye?

Yeah, in the medium.

But then what he told you was like almost like a fortune.

Yep, yeah he did. He did both.

So then I was like, both, Okay, how do you feel about that? Obviously he was wrong with how do you feel about those people like, you know, card readers and palm readers and shit like that.

It's the same thing I was saying earlier. It's just they use a lot of skill a out of mind manipulation. But I haven't experienced those. I haven't experienced card readers and stuff, the stuff.

You know.

I have a lot of friends that do believe in that stuff, and sometimes I get sketched out about it because they fully believe in it.

Speaking of which, and we were actually just talking about this the other day, kind of goes a little bit with this conversations. Yeah, or we could save that for conversation for another day. But I mean, that's another thing that I don't believe in, like zodiac signs and horoscopes, and I don't know. Those two are very broad and very positive. So of course I can look up a horoscope and be like, oh yeah, oh my god, that

I've seen it all. Yeah, I exactly what you just said.

I've seen somewhere, this makes sense, seen somewhere.

That's not even me at all.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it all goes in that same category of entertainment.

Yeah, is that something you still like would if people want to believe into it whatever, Although people be making decisions based off it though, then that's a little sketch to me, Like you shouldn't be making like relationship decisions or life decisions based off of fucking you know fortune cookie essentially.

Yeah, that that's what that's the part that is a little sketch, A little sketch.

Yeah. Like again, if you're reading it for funzies, you know what I mean, like, oh, that's funny, that did happen today or whatever, that's fine. But if you're like, oh man, this thing is saying I shouldn't date you because we're not compatible, like you really ain't gonna golf of that. Yeah, that's that's a little much.

Yep. So I agree everything you just said. I agree, And I.

Mean, oh man, we need to get a psychic on this pod.

Is there is there one in town?

If there's round, get on this pod.

That would be a.

Amazing that would be amazing. All right, So that's gonna be our goal. We might have to do part two of this, but we're only gonna do part two if we find an actual psychic.

Yeah. So if you're listening to this and you know, somebody, or maybe you're somebody. Hit us up on the GRAM or reach out to us somehow, and we'll do we'll do an episode on that. That'ld be fun.