Hello and welcome to THIS CAR POD! I'm Kenna. I'm Filippo. And today we have big news! Cars and Bids has an app! Yes it looks like this! This is Filippo's phone on our out of focus camera. This is an app that we have you can bid, you can look, you can see, you can ask questions, you can do all this stuff on our app and get notifications and other great things.
Filippo, tell us more about the beauty of the app. It is just incredibly beautiful. And please download it, go to the app store, it is currently only for iOS. So if you have an iPhone, go to the app store, download it, you'll get push notifications, you'll be alerted to any new activity in the auctions you're watching. To grab a bit of bid, grab a bit of engagement community, just go download it. We're incredibly excited that it's out. The Cars and Bids app is finally here. What are you doing to celebrate Kenna? Well, I've been using it, which has been great. It's nice to have it like just on my home screen. It is nice to get notifications.
We've had a dinoness 3M5 that we're going to talk about later today, and we've got notifications, but which is wonderful. Did you celebrate the app by backing over a television in a BMW M5? No, I celebrated the strength of the M5 by doing that, but we'll move on. That's another thing. It wasn't my app. For a different day. All right, we got some news to do. Aside from the app, which is new when you should download it. Bring it on. The Career GT news, wow! Brand new. Brand new, holy crap, can't believe it's here. Read 10. Now the Career GT news is that Michelin has developed a new tire for
the Career GT. Even though the Career GT hasn't been in production since 2005, 2006. Do you believe this? No, it's this because the handling of the car is sketchy.
And people are concerned. Tires have been an issue on the car in law. I don't believe that's true. I don't really believe it either. But in law, tires have been an issue. A lot of people talk about how tires contribute to the Paul Walker collision. They may have contributed a little bit. My biggest feeling is the biggest issue there was they were going 94 miles an hour to 35 zone. I think that was probably the primary factor.
And when the tires were old. Yeah, it's like they were. But I think you were 94 and 35 on new tires. You probably you probably also called. Not advisable generally speaking. Nope. Anyway, the point is they got new tires and they're going to put them on the cars. They're going to put them on my car here pretty soon.
Wow. And then part of the warranty like the recall replacement. And then they're going to set a new Nürburgring lap time. They hope. Now that is interesting to me because I have long held the belief that if you were to take cars on modern tire technology, you probably get quite a bit better time on race track. What I wish is that they would put it on KW. So the car came. I'm serious. It's better suspension. The suspension technology is dramatically better than the
SAC suspension that went in the car 20 years ago. But because that was the OE supplier, Porsche is not going to put a OE car on KW suspension. But I guarantee it would give them an extra three four seconds. I think the difference between that car on KWs with the new tires and without KWs with them. I bet it sets the all time lack record. I would you start to say that you wish you put it on K and I really thought it would be KO two.
Oh, KO two, which is quite something. If that car was on KW suspension, I really think that it would be even faster. And it'll be interesting to see where it lands. Yeah, I'm very excited. Honestly, I hope that a number of manufacturers continue to just with their older like very high line. Porsche is doing it in kind of an interest itself serving because Porsche wants everybody to realize that they're standing behind their supercars in a way that some automakers are not.
And so they're like, oh, we're still developing tires. We're still supporting it with parts. We're still doing number of times. We still care. And to Porsche's credit, it helps the reseller. I agree with you T and when your hybrid battery goes in certain cars and the automaker is not there to stand behind it, then you start to not the 918 spider. No speaking.
And then you start to wonder like, okay, is that should I buy the next one and Porsche is making it clear like you should buy Mission X because we care about not career GT enough, even 20 years later, we're still developing tires. We're still setting Nurburgring times, et cetera. It is kind of cool. It is a cool exercise. And that makes sure that everybody's aware, hey, they're going to keep values high of these cars. They're going to keep making parts unlike Z8 tail lights.
Do you want to talk about that next? Let's just do it. You want to talk about that now? Okay. I found out that the BMW Z8, Carly, all know and love and the tail lights are neon. Have you heard of this story yet? The tail lights are neon. It came out in 2000s before anybody had to fly daily D's. So they came out neon tail lights. Yeah, no, I'm familiar. Take a guess what a replacement cost for a Z8 tail light is. 17,000, 17,000 absurd. It's five grand a light. That's not notable.
You want to replace your tail lights? $10,000 plus labor. No, no. So the Z8 E350 head lights are different. Headlights have all sorts of they turn and they have all sorts of little burguer rubies in them. A tail light lights up. And I can change the light. Can I know how to change the kuntosh tail lights? We didn't even need a weekend or cold ones. We can go do it right now. Even just a mildly cool one would be fine. I don't need to be cold the last duration of the service.
It is interesting. So I mean, there are a couple of reasons one. They're only ever fitted to one car. But the thing is they're known for failure. Yeah, they feel all the time. So they're all failing right now. It's kind of a knife that just hangs over every day. It's like when are my tail lights going to cost me 10 G's? $1,000 tail lights going into replacement. How many people do you think I'm just like hitting them so that they can follow an insurance plan? Oh, interesting.
I would say I would guess how many people I would say none. No, that's never happened. But the eight tail lights are 10 grand to replace. Now with that said, SLR brakes are 40. Right. So, you know, come see, comes on. That's a big big. But nonetheless, what a cool car. It is cool. But that is crazy. I wonder what the most expensive BMW component you can buy is individual component.
So, I think the other funny thing about this car was when they when they release this car, they announced that it would have a like a 50 year parts. They would have a stock of parts for 50 years. Of course, they abandoned that the minute the car went out of production. They had a stock of parts for like a long weekend. That was it. Right. As I know, some as 62 parts in the longer available, which come in the real Z8, not the Alpenis. And so, OK.
Yeah, but they did tout that in an additional BMW fashion. Lie. Lie. OK, give us our next news story. What do we get next? This. OK, Ken, I want to tell you about this because I guarantee you haven't done any research into it. And I want to tell you what's going on. That's true. Tesla did another event like they do. And I people pay attention to these events less and less because they're the boy who cried. Well, if they announced stuff that never comes.
Yeah. And they announced a new car. For example, the roadsters are good example because they announced two new cars here. But the roadster, which was announced like seven years ago at an event has has active deposit people put down real money. Yeah. And it's like, OK, well, why are you showing us new cars when you're kind of late on the car that we've already. OK, but regardless, this is a new Tesla Robo taxi.
Yes. What I'm about to tell you is true. It is true. It's a taxi with two seats. Yeah. So it's you and one other person. Yeah. So there's not a driver. This is one other person. If you got three people tough tough got to get another one. Yeah, you got to get a nail. But even better, you see how it's a wheel. And then there's outside. There's more gold. They painted the tire. What they painted the tire. Look, that is just a tire that's a paint. Wow.
Revolutionary. Elon Musk is a genius. Anyway, I don't even find this to be that important of a new story. They announced it was it was sort of a big thing. But nobody really cares anymore. What Tesla says at these things, because we all know we're not going to see the car. Right. When it's promised, it won't look like it was promised. It isn't going to do what they said it would do.
Stay waiting on the roadster. Well, I'm still waiting on cyber truck to cost 60 grand or the model three to cost 30. So what is the toaster thing? That is some sort of it's some sort of van bus thing. It's 20 as with many startups. They're reinventing public transit. Ironic. Yeah. Ironically, this seats 20 and this seats to I don't need either of those. I need I need this to see about five and this to see about nine.
So really catering to you here. I need to average out these two. Right. It should be to be is the end of the rational car. And we need to not paint the tires. Gold because they idea public transport like taxis are yellow. And so this is like. It's a future of yellow. Yeah. And gold happens to be like a very trendy color right now. I want to know that at the event where they revealed this, they also had a robot serving drinks. Now there was a person wearing a robot.
It was gold. They originally claimed that it was like some kind of like tech that allowed it to do the zone. There was a person controlling it. There was a remote. I got remote control robot. I have a lot of these stuff. I would have had a one or see maybe we got a robot right here. We sure do. This guy's the future transit. Little Michael. It's his name's Mike Mikey. Okay. Give us a lecture.
This is a Lexus LX 700. This is a big new story. Don't forget. This is a big new story that I want to tell Felipe about. I'll tell you why. It's a 3.4 liter hybrid V6 with 440 horsepower and 580 pound feet of torque. And up until this moment. The Lexus LX the top dog big boy doesn't have that. But now it does.
It actually has more. They gave it a little more power. They were like, how is the Sequoia the top dog big boy? We need this to be the top dog big boy. So they give it the same torque and slightly more power. 480 instead of 440. Do you know what else this will come out in 2025. There's no other information. But you know what there will be that they're not currently an overtrailed trim. There's going to be overtrailed trim of this with triple locking diffs. Oh really? Yeah.
Wow. A trunk will lock you. But yeah, triple lockers are unusual these days. I just drove that G wagon with four motors. And I'm like, well, I don't need a triple lock. Yeah, you don't. Yeah, interesting. By the way, it's 457 horsepower, not 480. So it's only 20 more horsepower than my Sequoia. So I'm going to still the can pound feet of torque. 5803.
Oh, same thing. Wow. They basically had to upgrade the LX just to meet the Sequoia and its needs. Now the benefit of this is that you don't have to have camo. Which is admittedly from a benefit that I too would pay an extra 30 grand. What does this cost? 30. They haven't revealed pricing. No, but pricing is enormous. You know, when I went to look for my Sequoia, the cheapest one of these I found was used for
$120,000. And I thought spending 85 on the Sequoia was already way too much money. So a new one, I mean, they were markups. The LX600 base model starts at 94. 94. But they were heavy markups on them. And then there were the use market was crazy and all that. I don't know if there still is not a lot of LX demand. You don't see them. You don't see them.
You see new rain drovers. Don't see a lot of new LXs. It drives like a truck. Yep. Okay, give us our next new story. Oh, uh, Brembo, the people that make breaks have bought all of this. The people that make suspensions. Right for for $405,000,000, 405,000. Huh. What's the upside of it? We're done with that new story. It did drive right there. There's some consolidation in the parts space. Certainly. Brembo sold off some division and had some cash. And I think decided to spend it there.
What's our latest with Ricardo? That's the only right concern to be BBS. BBS is perpetually in bankruptcy though. It's like you and the recording.
The Virginia in the 60s and 70s and 80s and 90s and then Audi bought it. Yeah. Couple of interesting things. Larger acquisition of Brembo history. Okay. It is, it is all cash. Move on to the next one because the next one's good. Yes. So this is the core of ZR one. We're all very excited for this car to come out. And GM has been doing a good job marketing it. People are very excited. But they also want to give some real stats of this thing. So we all know it has 1,064 horsepower, which is crazy. But.
How fast does it really go is you say all performance cars are the same fast. Not this one. This one does 233 miles an hour is tested the combined speed. So that's going one way coming back and everything. It was 233. Making this the only car under a million dollars that will do 233 miles an hour faster than the McLaren. It's not as fast as the McLaren F1. But it's not far.
237. 241. And all McLaren F1 fans are like it's just not sure yours. But it's part. And so this is up. This is turbocharged and I've written new and automatic. Yeah. But you know, and the regular C8 is NA though. And I think I would hang my hat on that. But the part that gets me about the very impressive. But the part that gets me about this is the Mark Royce. The president of GM is the one who set the speed. No way. And he did it with a passenger. Oh wow. So it could go fast.
But how insane is that? I mean, that's just like a throw down the gauntlet kind of. I still believe that all cars are the same fast because because you'll never do 233. They did this on. I've been to their proving grounds. Which I'm sure they did this right. They actually did this in Germany. They didn't enjoy the ATP automotive work testing. That's a thing. You know, okay. It'll cost under a million dollars by the car.
What does it cost to fly it to Germany and get all the people ready to. I think you're still worried about it. You get the point. You got to rent the track. Yeah, you get my point. I mean, that is. It's amazing. 233 is amazing, especially because people kind of stop doing the top speed thing. Like every performance car now hits 200. That's kind of the benchmark. And it's enough admitted. And some of those coneings.
And stuff goes so fast that nobody's ever really going to beat that. And then the question of is it even a production car kind of came to play it's kind of over as someone who owns a car that was the fastest car in the world at one point. Very briefly. Two years. It's technicality almost. Two years. It's the Kuntosh for those of you who are wondering. Yeah. Every other car at the time was trash.
And that was also trash, but just slightly faster. Yeah, faster trash. It is the fastest car to America, except for one. Oh, the SSC to Attara. Yep. This is the ultimate arrow. Those are not cars. So this is the fastest. The SSC. Pretty much. And then that car burned or got crashed into or something. You know what didn't get crashed into Mark Royce. Draven 240 in his ER one with a passenger with a passenger. Who's the passenger? I don't know, but they were they must've been scared of.
I think it's guys. Yes. If anything happens, we are so screwed better. Hope it's quick. Yeah, but also a rare. A rare opportunity when GM actually does this don't like this and it pulls off. Because then they have an executive crash this year or one several years ago. Like testing it like, yeah, I think that happened as well. So I know where you're talking. And I'm going to tell you this and I want you to understand how special it is. I drove the Hummer EV many years ago at the GM test track.
The next day Joe Biden drove it at the same place. Wow. You be. Yeah. I got driving the Hummer. Joe Biden. Now Johnny Lieberman had it before me, but we're not talking about that. Hey, you're doing it. You're doing it. You're driving the Corvette. This is not a great Joe Biden. All right, give us the next news story. What do we get? What the hell does something that I want to talk about? What is this Renault, which is a car company in France. And it's actually owned by FCA, interesting one.
It has been coming out with some great retro cars. Okay. Which we'll talk about why I care about it. This is the R4, which is meant to look a little bit like the old Renault R4. And there's also an R5, which I think is the next one. Really good. But bringing back the R5 is out. No way. Can you strike them? Yeah. The R5 is like. They have cool looks. It looks a little portion of a conny V in the front. Is it like the first? Yeah. Yeah. They're all electric.
Yeah, it looks tight conny with the headlights. Yeah. The rear though looks Renault 5V. And you know what I was thinking about this a lot. Yes, you know what I realized? We've reached the era where the cars that they're doing like recreations of are cars that I care about. I didn't care when the SSR came out, when the heritage highway of HSR came out. When the PC Cruiser came out, when the Camaro Mustang redesigned, they were like meant to be retro came out.
But I care that a 90 Renault is now gaming reborn. That's an interesting point. That's an interesting point. They're starting to retroize cars that we grew up with. Because those cars in our 3040s, there's a retro cuntos. Right. We're old. But I love this. And I think everybody else will too. It's brilliant. Are they going to come back into the US market now that they're making electric cars? I mean, didn't Pooja attempt at some point?
Pooja and Ophas, they were going to also have DS, which is such a sporty brand. Okay. So what happened? And I didn't have it. So the answer is the upside of this is we're not going to ever see any of these cars. You will see them when you are walking around in Milan as you showed it to yearly. I should yearly. It's by yearly check out my yearly pilgrimage to go around Milan. I was going to say that. I just think that they're so cool.
And I wish I could see them in Milan because it's only by its own cars. Correct. You will see them in Paris. I'll see them in Nice. Yes. How nice. No. Okay. Give us our next news story. All right. I added it in the last minute because I think it will annoy Kenan. You are familiar with the two series Grand Coupe. Yes. I love the Grand Coupe. I can't stand it. Kind of ugly. I mean, we can all agree. There is a refresh version. Yeah. And there's also a new trim level for it.
Yeah. It's a two thirty five. They're no longer doing eye. You may be talking with authority. It's no longer that. It's using when it's eye and then eye for electric. Correct. And eye used to be injected and every car is injected now. My favorite part is the badge. Yeah. That M2 is big. The M2 is the normal M2 logo and then they added thirty five of them. Right. Well, this is what they're doing at all their cars now. The first number is now big. Right.
Have you seen a new five series like five thirty? It's like five thirty. But it's such a lie because it's not an M2. Well, but it's M2 and M2 thirty five thirty five. The same thing. They're doing it on all of them to try to get people to understand which line either cars are. Right. Because they want to emphasize the series above everything else. Because when they go electric, they're going to lose the numbers at the back and then it becomes five, five, thirty five.
They want five to be like the number for that car. And so they want two to be the number for this car. But it's the implication. The implication is a great car. People are just going to take floss and they're going to flop off the thirty five and just have, oh, it's an M2. But that will be the annoyance. Can I tell you something? I like this car. I like the M2 thirty five grand coupe. Do you have the power numbers right there? I do. I do twenty, isn't it? It's three twelve.
Three twenty and all wheel drive. It's three twelve and it is all wheel drive. Three twenty and all but you're yawning. When I was a kid, B7S4 comes out at 270 and all wheel drive. Same size car and people are freaking out. The kind of people who are right now writing us complaints online about how they hate this car have a B5S4. And think that car is God. And this car is fifty horses above that car. It's the same size and it's still four wheel drive. And it's a dual clutch.
And it is a seven speed dual. Boom! I'm convinced. Is it really? So the M5 has an automatic and that has this thing has a dual clutch? Well, it's the logic there. I'm telling you, I'm telling you. 4.7 seconds 0 to 60. If BN is the 355. 4.7. That beats your M5. I'm telling you. It's the same. I'm telling you. If they made a true M version of this and M2 grand coupe and it was all with the drive with 400 horse, it would be an Audi RS3 competitor and people would think it's cool.
I swear it's a good looking car. People think it's not. You only say that because you know what's a bad car. But if you thought it, no, if aliens showed up, they'd be like, that's a good looking car. They do nothing about the car. Only if they had poor taste in automobiles. I think the two grand coupe is a really cool car. It's not a killer for you to die on. It's got three or twenty horsepower and all wheel drive and dual clutch does it. I want you to know.
If you put those things on paper, you would be like, this is a cool car. I will say post facelift looks better. It's still a good car. What's the picture of this thing? Type in M235 by Grand Coupe. You had the 2025 if you wanted a new one. I don't care if you do the new one. Because despite Doug saying M235, it's not M235. Just go on that. Look at that. Do the white one. Do the white one. Look at that. That's a nice looking car. The facelift helps. The pre facelift. I also have the rear hand.
The back was weird. I'm not sitting here saying it's the most beautiful car for me. But I'm telling you, if you didn't know anything about cars, you'd be like this. By the way, this is the three series from years ago. When we were all like, oh, we love the E46. Here's an E46 with 312 horsepower and dual clutch. And worse styling. Okay, but it's modern. It doesn't have the giant grill everybody complains about. This is a good car. Kenan should like this car. You should like this car.
Kenan, go out and buy one for Emily. She'll enjoy it. Thanks, so. You're gonna stick with the end. No, Emily wants it SUV. She has an M3 CRT, so. She also doesn't even know about this car. She has an M3 CRT. She also doesn't even know about this car. She has an M3 CRT. Yeah, she's the gen. Hey, how can we not show it in the Australian cars that don't? I don't know. Ask her producer. That's a good start. All right.
Next up, we're gonna move on to talking about cars, which we've already been doing, but now we're gonna talk about non-news cars. Yes, cars in our lives. And I want to start with something that irks me. Please. When people walk up to me in the Kuntosh and they freak out and then they ask me if it's real. Well, yeah, that's my question. You walked up to me. I would freak out. You would tell me if it's real. You're the one who's freak out.
If I walked up to somebody and I thought they had a poncho. And I thought they had a Pontiac, Fiero, a Kuntosh regression. I was so freaked out. Think about it. It's odd. I would think it was funny. It would be a detaining. But you can like point. Like, if someone's gonna come up to me, like, don't be asking me if it's real. That's for you to figure out before you start freaking out of me. I'm not here to answer your questions about the realness of the thing that you're freaking out about.
Get out of here. I hear you're just like, yeah, then they go, oh, okay, it's nice to meet you. Then they leave. Well, of course, it's real. Who do you think, don't you know who I am? I'm Dr. Miro. And this is a Calamvergiri Kuntosh. I always am like, yeah, it's real. It's real. It's real. It's real. Five-liter side draft, B12. And they're like, oh, cool. And what I want to be like is you're the one who got excited. Yeah. So why are you asking me if it's real? It's a big offense to me.
Go to Christmas, type in Fiero in this urge. You're just gonna talk about that F4. Oh, I know. So, no, no, I'm gonna talk about the Kuntosh rep. Because that's the red bottom of this one. Yeah, that's the red bottom of this one. I mean, like, fundamentally. This is titled as a Fiero, but wasn't it a tube frame? There didn't have nothing to do with a Fiero. It kind of is the Vinn, I think, as a Fiero. There is no Fiero Kuntosh rep that's this nice.
No, and by the way, the other thing is that a real one? Oh, it would be hard to tell. It would be hard to tell. I mean, the other thing that's annoying to me about this or at least surprising is that anybody's asking this question at all. In the 90s and 2000s, there were a lot of Fiero replicas of Kuntosh's rep, but they're gone. They were all poorly made. They've all fallen to crap. You don't see them anymore.
Like, I have seen more Kuntosh's in the last five years than I've seen Fiero Kuntosh rep. That's true. No Fiero has made it. No Fiero made it. But a low one with like poorly made fiberglass body panels that some dude did in his basement because he wanted to get away from his family. And my wrong, I mean, that's what was going on. Not wrong at all. Right. This is such a good rep. This is so cool. What did this self-righteousness of this old thing? Sixth grade. Sixth grade. I mean, all the money.
And it's got a high tier of it. The interior was good too, though. I mean, that's pretty good. Pretty good. It's not perfect, but like, yeah. It doesn't have a gate. Yeah, but it's got a Chevy 517 V8. Yeah. Those are seats. Those are real seats. Yeah. It's so good. That's really cool. Well, in full canon, I'll tell you that. It fool you. I would buy it. Oh, definitely fool. And then fool everybody else. He'd even hear it start up. And he'd be like, yup. That's real. He's not an ass kid.
He's not an ass kid. Who would start up a telltap? My car starts every time. Meanwhile, your car is on the other hand. Start every time. Okay. Can't they always have? Can't they always have? Yeah. So, I recently was in Ohio for my friend, Sister Sweating, and there happened to be a car show that I went to. It was called Multabella. Amazing turnout. And I got some gifts from some people who were there. So, one of the people was Myron Vernness.
Now, for those of you who are unfamiliar, one of the most junk man on Instagram has the most eclectic collection of cars I would say of stuff you've never heard of. I mean, that's his thing is weird, like, really bizarre stuff. When I met him, I told him he's like known for being into weird cars, and he was surprised by this. And I was like, that's his thing. That's his thing. Also, one of the kindest human beings I've ever met, truly one of the nicest people.
And he gave me this, which is a Dodge Viper RT10. I don't want to take it off because I don't want to damage it. But it's in there. It's a little Dodge Viper because he knows that I have been... This is a model of one? Yes. So, in 1992, these were like the part of the press kits that were given out at dealers, so you can probably... And so, I happen to have one of them. Because he knows I want one of, he wants one too. He loves the first gen Viper and knows that I'm on. Don't weigh on.
And so, that was incredibly kind. I was not expecting it all, but I cherish it. So, thank you, Myron. I'm also coming through. Yes. But it continues. So, my friend Nick had a MiBok 57 that unfortunately caught fire and burned to the ground. Now, this is not like something Kevin's saying. This is what it's happened. Now, but he has to have a bunch of accessories that he wanted to... So, his spirit of his MiBok could live on.
This evidently is the press kit that you got when you bought a MiBok product at the time. And inside of this portfolio... So, not the press kit. It was... This came with your car. Your car. So, they have his leather interior swatch here, which smells amazing. So, this is like a smell leather. I smell it. It's all the leather. I just smell like a car of that era. You could almost eat it. Like walking down, street sand, dog might eat it. Yeah, don't give him my dears. I can't get it out.
But this is the... This is a wood sample too that came with the car. So, these are the samples that if you ordered a MiBok... They gave you yours. And then interestingly, they didn't give you just the color. They're like, you can have all the colors there. And so, you got... They all have the names on the back of them, but there's the full color range, which is... Wait, wait, wait, can I have clear? I want the first one. Clear. That's the clear coat. Can I have you guys a little trivia question?
Yeah. What was the only non-metallic color available on the MiBok 57? Bianco, it was called... If you want. It was called Snow White. Give it one more shot. Snowy Owl White. It's called a lasco white. Of course! I mean... I like the sleep of his when he said... In the date of time. There's a lot in here. I was really stunned. So, in addition to that stuff, there are also books that talk about like... Like the materials that go into each of these cars. It's like story time. Give me one of these.
Look at this. It's like hand painting a violin. Look at this book. I, Catching E. Fex, is the paint section. Oh my gosh, this is incredible. All this stuff. Oh my god, Ken and listen. Paint is smooth. Paint is pure. Paint is only perfect when it looks as if it was poured in one go. And with a pure evenness is not impaired by lumps, runs, or straved strands of hair. No matter how fine. Yikes. Can I ask you both a second trivia question? These two greens have a very similar name.
Guess what they are. Green. Filippo and green. Mybaco. Ireland, Medium Green. And Ireland, Dark Green. Okay. Okay, fantastic. This is amazing. This is an amazing. This is a really cool thing. When you bought super expensive cars, this is the kind of thing that you used to get. Yeah, and that. I think still today, automakers are pretty good about... Maybe still do, but so much of it is digital these days. What a digital stuff. I mean, that just gave you an iPad, so. Right.
But this is a wonderful gift. So thank you, Nick. Your mybock lives on here in the Car's in Bid Studio. And I will put all the stuff back later. Speaking of gifts, by the way. Oh, you've got something. Mailed something to us. You wear it? I am. I forgot. It's a little... What it is is, it's here it is. It's a little... Stuffed bird. It's an owl, if you will. It's an owl. And it came with a car. Okay. And it's the car says, My name is Aspark, and I'm real.
And I agree, this is the only real Aspark owl. Yeah. Because the other ones are all fake. To be perfectly frank, they're not cars. You're aware of. Hi, Owl. This is an Aspark owl. It's Aspark the Owl. Aspark for Owl. It's aesthetically pleasing than the Aspark owl too. Mike the Audi robot. He sure is. That's how it's used. Someone sent us to this. They didn't sign it. So it just arrived. We don't even know. It's a missch. Maybe Aspark themselves.
They should after all the publicity we've given them. Yeah, nobody's heard of this car until we started. Yes. Really, really making fun of it. Rightfully so. Yeah. Okay, Philippa, what's your topic for us today? My topic was added by not me. And it just reads, Will I ever buy a car? Will I ever buy a car? Sure, of course. I have bought several vehicles in the past and I will continue to in the future. It's been a while though. It's been a year and a half. Dan, you've been talking.
I've been talking. A lot of talk. A lot of talk. I want a C7 Corvette. I don't want to spend money. And therefore I have not bought a car. But that's what it amounts to. Why won't you look at a car purchases total cost of ownership like I do? Why do you have to look at it like you spent money? Are you just so afraid of the opportunity to cause you? Of course you're doing with the money right now. Saving it. It is stored under my mattress as all sane people do. It's all a town.
That's how it's called. It's a place where you don't trust the banks. It's a stock market. For good reason. No, that is not where my money actually is. Do not rob my house to get the cash. It's not just that. Here's the thing. The total cost of ownership is not. You don't make money by a normal car. I know that you won't lose money. You lose some of that. But Flipple Life is worth living. I live it. God, he is such a... I think this is one of the reasons why Flipple likes me.
Just like the fact that on objectively he shouldn't. Is that I am someone who actually does some of the things that he... And he's like, it's like, oh, huh. Interesting. That would be cool. But then he doesn't pursue the doing of the thing. I have spent... Let me tell you how much I've spent on cars the best. About a car for a dollar. Other car I bought for a single owner for $8600. $3,000. $4,000. $27,150. And then $11,000. So there's one outlier there. And I can't quite cross the outlier.
I had a hard time crossing the 40 grand mark for a... I'm having a hard time crossing any mark. The difference for me was I had a very hard time crossing the 40 grand mark for a daily driver. Even still, I think that that 40... 50 maybe with inflation now should buy you like all the daily you need. 90, 80 on the score? That's too much. But I've started to think of things as total cost of ownership.
But the total cost of ownership, once you include taxes, once you include insurance, once you include maintenance... Is non-trivial. But as Kenan would say, life is worth living on the side. What do you kind of do? 500 or both, Kimberly. People die. Don't you want to enjoy your life? Life is fragile in any matter. I do feel short. I think that there's a good chance that in the next three months by... Let's call it the end of Q1. 25. I will have bought a vehicle.
I think there's no chance of that at all. I think I would put money against it. But you can continue living vicariously through me. I had quite a drive to work this morning. I'll tell you. Okay. Time for you to come next time. Time for the market report. Market report. Market report brought to you by Cars and Bids. The world's finest automotive online auction automotive. That now has an app. You can download it on the Apple app. Download the app because on our app you can do things.
Now you can also do it by not downloading the app. So either way. But you should download it. I want to talk about... I want to talk about the app gives you direct access to tellflipo what car you should buy. Does it? It sure does. You can go to community and make a post. I want to talk about a few things with the market report. If you're selling a C7 Corvette Z51 group for the most 7 speed. For the most 7 speed. For the most 7 speed. Let me know. And you're his main heart.
No, no, no, no. I'll have you some day. But it also needs to be within like five miles of my house. So I was just making sure he gets them for a deal. He knows he buys them on the site. He'll pay all the money. All right. Canon, take us away on the E3N5 result today, which was wild. It was great. So I had mentioned in the portion that Flipo and I talked about. I think I mentioned it last week too. We talked about important cars that are for sale right now.
And this E3N5 was so Dynand S3, which is a supercharged version of the car that was offered by Dynand in the early 2000s. 621 horsepower. Real stuff. And it sold for 117,000. Okay. I admit, I hadn't clocked too much on this. And I should have. But I now did. I watched the auction end. I didn't make any comments because I was filming a Tahoe Z71 in a hot ghost. Right. We were filming over here. But I was watching the auction. And it was an amazing auction to watch.
The bidding war started in the 60s and just carried 42 to the 90s. 42 minutes. But I didn't really pay that much attention. So this Dynand makes performance parts. But they also made individual like car packages. So yes, so you could do an S1 and S2 and S3. The S1 was not a whole lot. It was like a very light, not a whole lot. The S2 got suspension, a different differential. It got real stuff. But the S3, they went the full monty, took an S2, gave it a supercharged and gave it real power.
And of course, like, car, it's stuff was carb legal. That's that was the thing that was insane. It's motted, but not like heinous, like it's motted by people who knew what they were doing. Not only in thinking about the complete package. Well, not only knew what they were doing. If you did the package at the time on any of the Dynand products, they would beam W'd honor your warranty. Like it was a bit, that's how high quality the components were.
And there's a relationship between BMW and Dynand. That was very strong. But these cars were ludicrously expensive. I think it was like 75, it was between $7,500,000 to do this in period. More than the cost of the car. The same cost of the car, yeah. Double the cost. It doubled. So it was 75 grand on top of the 75 grand. But I mean, in fairness, it was more powerful than the M5 that came after it. So how much power? 621 horsepower. I don't remember how much torque. 522 foot pounds.
12 horsepower. Yeah. Wow. So this is like the holy grail on the E39 and 5 community. It is because they made, obviously, do the cost made very few. This one is number 23. They're all, they all plaques under individually number. How many they make? I don't remember. It's not, not many. I don't think many into the 30s, I think. The cool thing about this car was also final model year. Blue. Yep. One owner. Yeah. And that's an ancient Texas plate.
And it's got the caramel interior that Felipe and I love. They do love. Yeah, exactly. This was... This could do you bought the car new and did the dyin and thing new. And then drove it himself 78,000 miles. I mean, so this is not a record for us as the most expensive E39 and 5 we've ever sold. Rightfully so, it's the one. And this is the second most expensive dyin and S3 to transact in recesses.
Yeah. And I will say the other one that the transactant has also where a few months ago had a third the miles. Yeah. What are the miles? Yeah. I mean, not sell for much more. So this is a very strong result. I am proud to say as a lover of these cars, I really do believe we are the place to sell your E30. I think this result shows that. How many E39 and 5s have we auctioned at this point? Let's see. We have sold 138 of them. Wow. Kenan has given us the E39 and 5.
Yeah. The E39 and 5, Kenan has given it. And the E39 and 5 has given it back. Give us the money. Take it all my money away. It is amazing to range these cars. And previous ones also for 1415 grand. That's a really, really, really special car. Very interesting. Amazing to watch that result. Highest proof on the results. Oh yeah. If you go to Highest first. Yeah. It was the Ilarica Silla Car. Oh yeah. The 20,000 miles. And that was a 2000. It was a 10,000-cult car, too.
The 02 at 50,000 miles for 64. That would have been nice. And we have sold a DINON S2 as well. We have another one that is coming very short. We have one on the side. There is a DINON. It should be real. Right now. If you want an S2, but it doesn't have the blower. It doesn't have the blower. Kenan prefers. Because he's a naturally aspirated man. It's the NA build and it's still made, I think it was 430 horsepower. It's a dead horse.
It's more, yeah, because it got the DINON headers, which are in the E39 and 5 community gold. When they come up for sale, they bring big money. I keep things stock. Except the car. Except for its tune to turn. And some other modifications we learned about here and there. Every once in a while, you ask Kenan a question. Oh, well, I got it. Right. Well, nonetheless. Yeah. But the S2 is kind of the one to have. My opinion is the one to have the S3s, if you can afford it, is without question.
But there's a total of it. It's been 120G's on it. And any 30M5 plus you got a final. Yeah. The S2s are really great and I'm excited. So watch that. It was up and nonetheless. This one today, especially that bidding war between two people really wanted a third product. Pracer would like kind of like raise their hand. Then those two would just slap it down again and keep going. Amazing. It was an incredible war. Well, they know it's not going to happen again.
It's like, like, with one comes up for sale. You've got to say bye-bye. Right. Yeah. I said underscore why I'm square Z. Send us a message. I don't know about your new one or no more. You want to know more? Yep. Okay. Filippo, tell us another thing. Can you look at 997s? Market report for 997s. This is the 911 that was made from 05 to 12. 997s, especially early 997s. Yeah. Have started to get really cheap. Click on the lowest price there. Kenny.
Okay, well, the very cheap one for a lot of people. This one's fun. But that's reason 25K. A few others that have R&M between 25 and 30, because that market is moving quickly. But you can get a stick, currently 997s, high miles, over 100,000 miles for sure. Wow. Some concerns, reliability wise, but for under 30 now. Wow. We were all, we were all, we were all, we were all, the same price as the C7s. It happened in 996s a long time ago.
997s are really starting to follow suit, as 991s are starting to become cheaper. And 991s are in the high 40th for a tip one. Yeah. You can get one in the high 30s if you're willing to put up with six accidents. We sold this one six times. We sold it for 38. But there are a lot that are in the, that are sub 30. That's interesting. I give, I've been in looking casually, and there's a lot available elsewhere too. Here's a question I have. If 997s are 28. But if 996s. Well, they're down two.
I mean, the 996 starts to become, it has to be cheaper than this, because the 997 is, is a really more complete car. We've been selling, I find 996s that are back to like 2020 prices. Here's the price. Which is 15 to 20. 15 to 20. For like a, you know, rougher one. Yeah, it's funny. Porsche during pandemic, Porsche prices were wild. Everything was going for over sticker and five year old targets were selling for over sticker and all that.
And now all the, they're all pushing down on each other once again. And seeing 997s at 20 something, I remember when that car came out. Right. I mean, I was like a holy crap kind of thing. I remember 991 came out. And it's not that much more expensive than a 997. Sadly, manual 991s are still quite high. How high are we to? 50s. 50s. Maybe I should be able to buy that. Maybe I should be able to buy that. You should. You certainly won't lose value. Yeah. You should get a wide 996.
Here's a crazy take that everybody's going to find. You would rather have a wide 996. That are interesting. Really? You know what's upsetting? Wide 996 is more expensive than 997. They're about the same. We sell wide 996s for high 20s low 30s. We sold a really nice 996 for us the other day. I mean, it works. Yeah. We sold a yellow one that was like, really, anyway, you get the idea. These are selling also in the high 20s low 30s. Why the fact that they've come down more than I realized.
Yeah. Wide 996 has that one. That car was so nice. This is 44, but this is a really nice six year. It's a really yellow, low mile. I do love the wide. Perfect car. The wide. Yeah. Look at that. A plus the wide looks so good. Click on that. Oh, yeah. The rear is the car. The rear is the wide. My opinion is one of the greatest like 911s of all. I know what's crazy is that. The front, you can have the fight. But the rear, it just looks damn good. You can see where the 993 came and turned into this.
You really can. It was a transition. You can definitely see. And those are some of the great wheel support ever did. Yes. And I kind of think that the 964s will not lose much more value. Yeah. They're cool cars. But it's interesting that 997s are getting into the 20s. That's a P11. That's a P11. There are some concerns with early 997s. Yes. You still have five mass issues. Yeah. And there's some other issues. Poor scoring. Yeah. There are some little issues. But they're very appealing.
But a lot of these cars have some miles on them now. Stuff's been addressed. They're very appealing. Yeah. No, they certainly are. Okay. Last thing I want to discuss is the C8-06 and the C8 in general. Typing just 7-C8. Let's just do it. You're ready to do it. Keep in mind that you're old. Yeah. We had to do it at some point. The C8 market is changing folks. Remember when C8s were like all 100 grand. I do. I remember the first one we sold in 2020. This one was big to 47.5.
I mean, they didn't sell for that. But they're selling now in the 50s. But the reason I wanted to pull it up and talk about the C06s specifically, which are also really, really, really coming down. If you go to the top, no, no, just scroll back up because there's only a few up there. No, no, little. Yeah. Yeah. Keep going up and down eventually. Oh my god. Oh my god. It's great. Clicked on the stingray.
The point is the whole Corvette C8 Corvette market is starting to really, really, really change. I saw some article that came out and it's like C8s are the fastest, appreciating. Yep. Well, yeah, they are because they had gone to a crazy, crazy level. And now they're finding starting to come down to a more rational number. But you can already pick C8, C8, C0, 6 is up for becoming around sticker. Are they below sticker at that point? Perhaps even below.
And E-rays, which are the bargain of the whole lot, I know, are also fairly affordable. This is basically an average of $1,000. That's where it got into it, didn't sell. But you can see where the market is heading on all these cars. On our reserve setting valuation side, there's just a fall. It's a free fall. May I ask you a question? Is a C7? You set a server month ago and it's like, well, here's five new cars that are coming to say, or five new comps that show, nope, that's 10 grand too high.
Yeah, 10 grand too high. May I ask you a question? Is a C7 man? Yep. What number does the C8 have to be down to? I'm not optimizing for performance. You have a different C8. No. It's a nice, driven e-ray from that spot right there to turn out there. Is that count for everything? Dude, it is a, but you want to stick. I'm not stick. I agree with that. As much as I love some of these auto cars, I look at them.
There is a C7 argument to be made and some of my friends have made it to me that I should spend way more money for a grand sport. Like a late grand sport because C8s will continue to appreciate because they're all automatic. They're all kind of similar. They're producing more and more and more. Yeah. But a very nicely specced C8 grand sport or C7 grand sport, excuse me, might not depreciate the same amount. I think it's still well. The grand sport had the 06 body but not the performance.
Correct. But it had some likes, especially on grades and stuff. Ken and I would recommend getting a C7 06. Yeah. That's kind of the one. Yeah, but he's not that's not out too much for him. He wants a normal one. He wants the, he just wants the, he made it for a non-Z51 pack, by the way. What is it about? You should get it. What is it about the C8? That makes me not all want one. What is it about the C7 actually that makes you want one? It just seems like the smart choice. It is. It is.
Performance for the money. It is. The interiors much nicer than it's predecessor. It is on par with the cost, which is low. Yeah, but it's a, the C6. It's on par though. It's acceptable. It just seems like a bargain and one that I don't have to worry that much about. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. That's fair. All right. That's our most important for the day. There's no negative image unless you are in an old person community. It's a core of it. There's a picture.
I would much rather be perceived as an old man wearing new bounces than as like a like want to be rich person. Yeah. And no one will perceive you as a want to be rich person. Correct. I'm a fan of the radar. I will say I agree with Ken that there's an image of any, any core of it with the exception of the C2. Yeah. What is this? C1 gets respect too. C2 is such a beautiful car. I mean, it's a totally different world though. No, not necessarily. I would get a C2. Larry Shinota. Larry Shinota.
Okay. We're going on to questions. Yep. Questions, questions, questions for us. Now you can ask us questions. You can ask me questions. You can ask Ken and questions. If questions for Ken and you can ask them. Yes. You just have to leave them. You have to leave them. Of course. You just got to the community tab. Go to carsandbids.com or use your carsandbids app which you've downloaded while listening to this podcast while you're driving to work.
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Yeah. If you are interested in there being an Android app, we don't currently have one. We're considering it. Please set up an email at appacarsandbids.com if that's something that you're interested in. Appacarsandbids.com. That's what I said. That's how you download the app. You go to appacarsandbids.com. Today has been just chaos. Okay. Time for our very first question which comes from QSAL. So it's SAL asking Q. Oh. And he says, question for all three.
Which car slash cars would you buy for your kids? P.F. has been watching it for years and I might love you more than Kenan loves his M5 and then in parentheses, Emily. I never considered that his M5 might be Emily. That's good. That theory has been interesting. It's been positive before. Interesting. Okay. Which car would you buy for your kids? There's a simple answer. New NSX. Okay. Next question. New. No, no, no. Wow. Dang. What car would you buy for your kids? But what is the answer?
Like the Corolla hybrid. Okay. Kenan? Civic hybrid if you want. The fastest, Hanacetic. I don't. The Corolla would be pretty cool. The Corolla. The Corolla. They will rally slide into a car tomorrow. Your kids 17 is going to rally slide into a car tomorrow. Ryan's first car is an M5. I mean, you know, people. Yeah, but Ryan is like, Festidious. Have you met Philippa when he was a kid? You know, he just went into an M. I was like, There you go. That's my, and you crashed into a teacher.
You, you almost paralyzed as a teacher. I wasn't caught. And I bought my own car at that stage. That wasn't my first car. He almost paralyzed. I think he did. I think he did. It was a low speed impact at like eight miles. Eight miles an hour. That's a faster. Right. If it had been that, that, uh, simulator that you want, who just speed it up to infinity, that could almost happen. If you had pressed the accelerator many miles earlier, all the way down, you could have paralyzed.
I think I hit the brakes sooner. So wait, your answer is a GR Corolla. His answer is a Corolla hybrid. Or a Civic hybrid. I don't know. Or just whatever car you have. The, the, your teenager doesn't need a new car. The answer is you get him a Ford fusion energy. I, or a C-Mine. C-Mine. No, no, no. Don't be ridiculous. You get a Ford, how about a Ford, the energy? And it'll teach him the same. You know what the inner fusion energy teaches them?
Not only it teaches them how to fill a car with gas, but how to pluck on him. Are you at all worried that they'll be, they'll only learn how to twist a knob and no other ways about a car. Interesting. Interesting. The concern. Then you also need to teach them in a regular car, how to drive. And then you let them loose with the fusion energy. What is it? Like, all right, if you want your child to have a manual transmission at the first car. I don't. People in the, they test drive.
You want the answer to this question? Scroll through this side. I'll say hit. When it's time for your kids first car. No, none of these, none of these. Actually, I would consider in the 60s. No, no, that engine's unreliable. You have a drive that's done so far. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Come on, come on. 330i X. I'm not opposed to an LS46. It's so big. It's big, but it's saying. GTI. No, too, too fast and zippy. They'll, they'll, they'll kill their friends.
Boy, you give them a cute car. They're really ruined their lives. But the delicate space here. Or too much space. Ooh, got like this focus in the N20. Focus, saline N20. That's good because it's probably pretty slow, but it looks cool as hell. Maybe the car hall or. Car hall or, and you really teach them a few things. He got, I haven't found a perfect one yet. That's 335D. 335D is a really good choice. Yeah. Good range. Oh, they were all automatic. They can run away from home to easily.
Good, they can go with a damaged toy. Good, sorry, boy, found a cross the country. The word child on a rectangle. They got across the country. Three things of gas. Too easy. Okay, fine, fine, fine. Uh, what else we get? D4 is? No. That's for us a little too quick, but we've been doing it all. These are all too good. Stick all around? No. No. Blaser's a little rattle? Maybe a V60, but not a pole star. How about that? How about a V60? How about a V60? How about a V60? How about a V60?
How about a V60? How about a V60? How about a V60? How about a V60? How about a V60? How about a V60? How about a V60? How about a V60? What, what, that body V60? What do they cost you? How about your child of V60? Yep. Okay, next question from Big Ultimate Hater 6, a common question asker. In a fictional world where animals could drive cars, what car would noodle drive? I have an answer for this. Uh, uh, uh, uh, noodle hates noise. Hates noise. He would drive an EQS. No, he's not a luxury dog.
I know, but he used to be isolated from the world. He is. And he was the isolated from the world. He's driving around the luxury dog. He drives around. He doesn't. You wasn't in a crash any time there was a car that was driving around. No, you wanted to be isolated from the car. I think he'd be in like a prologue because he wouldn't know any better. And he needs. No, but he needs. Why? And, and, and protection from that side world. I don't think he's a slightly an anxious dog.
I think he'd be like, nah, plus the styling would be too much for him. He's a slightly anxious dog. He would want. Yeah. I think he'd be in a prologue. What about like an EQE? I will tell you this. He hates all my fun cars. I pick them up from daycare and like the 4GT and he's like, uh, but you just, you just see it. I thought he liked V8. Uh, he, no. No, I just think he really hates diesels. But I think he just, it's too loud. He would love electric. That's why I'm saying a prologue.
He's in a prologue. No, but he wants to have a lecture with like triple pain glass. Yeah, but he, he wouldn't do that. He's just not a luxury dog. He'd be chauffeur just as he is now. He would be a luxury dog. Okay, nah, that's a good question. Next question from AutoBlog. What is your biggest automotive pet peeve? Oh. Uh. I got a bunch. I got a ton. I just want people say stuff that is stupid and you kind of have to let it go.
Like what the, you, this car is insurance only for, this car is backseat insurance. Backseat insurance. Yeah. There's a lot of those. Yeah, there are a lot of myths that are just like, for whatever reason, some kind of people's consciousness and they just regurgitate, never fact check. Constantly hear them. And I always have to be nice to remember. So people say stuff like that. And I'm like, oh, yeah. Actually. Uh, uh, uh, no, I never correct people ever.
I didn't tell her to say something to me when you see me on the street. It could be totally raw. Yeah. But it, but you know, but you know, you're a mind. You're like, how do I get out of it? How do I get out of it? Well, it's great to see you. Nice to meet you. Thank you. Yeah. Other wonder other automotive pet peeves, Philippeville. I'm trying to think. I'm not easily bothered. Well, you're just bothered by car culture. I do hate car culture. Passion. People, we, we, we design cities for cars.
And that's stupid. I think they like Stolecar. Walkability and bike ability and mass transit are very important. I hear so many BS things that people say. Now that I think about it, you can't, you can't drive a right hand drive in America. It's illegal. There's so many things you, as you go through it and hear all this. You know, okay, I have a national pet peeve. Yeah. That's related to that.
I find a very annoying when people import a car illegally and then try to sell it and claim, oh, it has a title. It's all fine. No, that's not the case. Well, yes, when people do illegal, illegal transit car cars. We are, we are. The pet peeve of mine, right? The murderer is another pet peeve. We are aware that you are, like, sure, just because you got that car titled, because that 1D and V clerk let you title it in Florida. Doesn't mean that that car is legal.
I do have, when I used to do intake, which was the first like 18 months of this business, and intake being all the cars that are submitted to cars and bids by people. Some, there were an enormous number of pet peeves. Here's a big one. Here's a big one. Cars have been hit. Okay. Carfax has an accident. You used to tell them, oh, it was only a minor parking lot thing. No problem. Not a big deal at all. Meanwhile, they're buying. Oh, my God, it has a bad carfax. I want $20,000 on.
And it's like the hypocrisy is so annoying. That's one, I mean, this is kind of specific to because of business we're working, but when people cover up their license plates with towels instead of taking them off of the dam bar, if you cover up your license plate with a towel, I just watched regular car reviews as doing all these. That's a great wheels right now. And one of his was, if you cover up your license plate with a towel, you don't change your oil. And I totally agree with that. 100%.
If you cover up your license plate with a towel or with your thumb, it simply suggests to me that you are a lazy person and you were lazy about your car. You were lazy owning it. You were lazy maintaining it. You were lazy keeping it. And my big thing with buying a car is you're not buying the car. You're buying the seller. Yep. And if the seller can't get a screw driver and unscrew a license plate. Oh, you know how long that takes? You know, your life rate is visible every single time.
Well, that's the other thing. I've got less plates and every one of my Instagram things, I don't care. But meanwhile, if you want to take your plate off, whatever. Fine. But like, your thumb, you're a loser. That car is worth eight grand less if you put your thumb over it. And if it's $5,000 car, you've got to pay me three grand to take the car. I'm going to hit you with the low ball so hard it's going to knock you in the next moment. I see that you've put a thumb over the license plate.
Will you pay me $3,000 to take your car? That is my low ball. Yeah, that one sticks in my mind. Yeah, there are some modifications too that I just can't. I'm not even going to get into it because I can't wrap my hand around. You know, you striped on a... Or an impact. Or another good example of that. I mean, it's just deep. That kind of thing, yeah. That is a big automata. Tremendous losers who do that. Another good example is yellow, manual, convertible. It's one of one with a vanitonane.
It's not just Corvette people, but Corvette people. I find that amusing. Do it because those numbers are easy to find. It's Chevrolet like publishes them and it Chrysler does too. It's hard, yeah. You can do that. But I don't know. I don't know. It's the only one that's this that it's like, I don't care. Does that reach the point of a pet peeve? Does it annoy you or is it just that? No, I laugh. When a peve hears one, when people spell Aztec with a C, that really annoys me.
It's with a K and everyone makes this mistake. Yeah. Okay, next question from Mohamed Kinsara. Question for Doug. I've been looking at the Doug's gross spreadsheet and I noticed not a single car is scored of 50 out of 50, neither a weekend or daily category. So what do you think can get a 50 score on each category? I think about this a lot and I don't think that it's realistically possible. Certainly, you could never get a 50 for both. 50 in one would be really, really hard.
Some cars have a 49 and fall short on styling. That's usually the thing that trips up super far. People cars have 49's but their styling score is a little bit off. Oh wait, Ferrari DTone SB3 has a 50 in weekend. It just hasn't been updated yet. Ferrari DTone SB3 has a 50 in weekend. 10 out of 10 for styling, acceleration, handling, fun factor and cool factor. DTone SB3. That's the three three. The greatest Ferrari since the F50.
Other than that, 50s are hard to achieve in daily because some of this stuff is kind of a trade off. It would be hard to get a 10 in features, comfort, quality and practicality and still get a 10 in value. Because the only cars that have like tens in features are some of the highest in luxury cars and then they usually are not a great value. What does the E63 wagon have? High 40s. The wagons do really, really well. The RS6 and E63 wagon, the 21 E63 wagon has a 37.
It's got a 9 in features, 7 in comfort, 7 in quality. The other problem is those kinds of cars, they start to sacrifice a little bit of comfort usually for their performance, etc. It's very hard to do that. I don't know that it's even possible to get a full 50 in daily's. But in weekend, the SB3. The question for the arises that an Italian design Columbus could get a 15 in daily category? No. No. It's too expensive. Could it get 40? Right. They won't sell it. They won't sell it.
It's a part of their hair and then it's your own value. Listen, I don't want to make fun of Italian design. Although, you know what we found out the other day? Here's a crazy thing for you. Pinning Farena. Yeah. The most famous company in the history of Italian. One of them. Pinning Farena sold to the Mahindra Group in 2015. They bought 76% of it for 170 million euros. That's it. So 76% for 170 million euros values the whole company like $2 and $20 million. So what's a Columbus cost?
Well, if Pinning Farena sells as a company for $2 and $20 million, you're right. You got to figure out how design is way cheaper. Could I go buy a tell design for $100 million than I'd have my Columbus? There's your answer. I bet it's less. Probably less. I think they would entertain many offers. Okay. Next question from First Gen Nissan Jukehater. There's only one gen. That's not true. There's a new Nissan Jukehater.
Oh, my God. What concept car would you wish to make a production and what car other than the first gen juke should have stayed as a concept? I love the first gen jukeh. I don't say. Concept car version made it production. So many. So many. It's kind of like 16. Oh, the CN. The CN. So we can just look at it for the rest of the pod. Yeah. Just pull it up and leave it up. Yeah. Yeah. So cool. I am a zoom in and just like let it sit there. That's the answer. No other answers. Yeah. That is so cool.
I mean, you could say one if you want. Oh, I don't have one. There's still my look at that. Imagine if they had done it. What was the Mybach? Accelerate. Accelerate would be. That was cool too. Yeah, that would be a good one. I never got his into the ME412 as some people to Chrysler. I didn't think it looked good. No, but this is. If I had this, I would have been a little bit more expensive. I would have been a little bit more expensive. I would have been a little bit more expensive.
I would have been a little bit more expensive. I wouldn't have talked to fully Bony more. You know you can get somewhat close within XLRV. It is cool how much you have been into the XLR though. This was my name. But this is. This had a North Star V16. They put two North Star V8s together, and then they just let things happen. Ken and I, unless you buy an XLRV, and just just put double the engine and put it back. I actually hope all of the how often it be.
I'm going to posit that I honestly and truly think it was a mistake that they didn't make this car. I think that Cadillac was desperate, was and still is desperately trying to get their status to a level that's equivalent to BMW Mercedes Audi, etc. Audi shows up at the R8 and suddenly they, people care about them. If Cadillac had done this, and then come out with all the V cars, and then come out with like a good escalate, and people would be like, damn, Cadillac is real. Yeah, instead.
You would see this around. You'd freak if you saw it. I would freak if I thought it was around. Can we talk about Cadillac for a second? Can you go to Cartoon Bids and pull up CTS, CTS, CTS 5V? Oh yeah, because we got a nice black wing on this. We do, but that's not the point. That's Cadillac CTS 5V black wing. Yeah. Right? It has 668 horsepower, supercharged V8. Yeah. Do you have any idea how much power the regular CTS 5V has? No, how much? Click on it. Which we saw on Gestradi today.
For 30 grand, how much? 362. 362. Yeah. What's your price? This is equivalent to an M340i to C300 probably. Yeah. Why did they call it V? I think they really degraded the V. Yeah. And I find it to be a thing. The V-Sport existed. The prior gen, the CTS had a V-Sport. The black wing, this one has been the C-T5V. And I could have called a black wing if you want, whatever. But there's such a huge difference. There's a $70,000 price difference between them. I totally agree. It was a huge mistake.
But this is general motors. General motors gets 80% of things right 100% of the time. Like I am always in awe of their ability to just screw something up. Yeah. Just. But at least they gave us a really good car here. And at least they made a Corvette go 233 miles per hour. 233 mile an hour Corvette. That's pretty cool. And the black wing. Okay, next question, last question. Last question, last question, last question.
From Ind Can. Hey guys, if you had to pick one car that you previously owned, just still be in your garage. What would it be? And why, Kenan? Well, that's what he's going to say. You know, I, because I really would love to have a nice, like a simple daily that didn't have to care about. I really loved my E46330XI. It was so nice. It just drove great. No, it was manual. Was it a tip? I've never had an automatic car. I've probably had manual cars. Yeah, well, not mine.
It was manuals, towpans, blue, and I both had that car. I just love driving it. You know what, I love that car? Infinite spoke wheels. No, not mine. I don't even mean mine. I know the XI's had it. You probably would be content at one. I, it was lovely. Can you pull the sand back up? So you won an E463 series. I mean, this was the other car that popped mine, but it was so painful. I do miss when it was great. I do, like, I had to dream the other night that I was driving it again.
But I don't want to, I can't do a dream. Can I tell you something? Fine line. The E46 is now legal to import from Europe. And what you could do is get a 99316D. What a dream. And have hubcaps, crank windows. I would love that. And a 100 horsepower. Well, the E46, yeah, I really could get was, is the compact with the rear headlights. You could get the compact with the bad headlights totally. Yeah. That would be cool. But the N24 swap, that would be, get one of those.
If you do the E46, get one of those. If you do that, I'll front you 500 bucks for your, for your, for your, oh, thank you. I'll generous. I'll go to John 500, because I told him I, I just, help him out with his Ferrari. You're only a lot of people. Flipple, you get any of these? Yeah. You wish you had. For about a year, I owned a manual E53X5. So for the Gen X5. Yeah. And it's just such a, I was in front of one yesterday. And it's such a good looking car.
I think it's the best, good, as you believe that's going to be. That's 25 years old. That is such a nice, nice, nice car. It's the best on your TV. Yep. Mine was great. I should have kept it, but we were moving from most of you on it here, it didn't make sense. Yep. Also had a lot of issues. But it's such a gorgeous car. I know. I know. I heard him a little. It's such a gorgeous car. And I think it's the best of the SUVs. Just sure. I don't disagree. You had a rough one. They were all rough.
The three that was a good motor. You're going to set a three liter, that same three that were engine powerful. The M54 is one of BMW's great engines. Reliable. It wasn't smooth. It wasn't powerful. It was 225 horsepower. But it was, but it was, it was enough. It was just nice. It was very reliable. A lot of those three liter BMWs are still on the road. And you see a lot of other later and earlier ones long gone. Yep. And the three liters live on. Yep. The S54 might be the most exciting. Right.
So that's where it's 6.0 liter, but the M54 is the best. Right. Right. Yeah. The answer for me is, not. When I sell my cars, I am done with them. Goodbye. You want me to say my viper. I don't buy. You only didn't say your buy. You know what? I know what some of those cars you think was basically, I wish I still had. One time, people and I go pulled up next to you. For the four sales sign, you buy it. It's carb. I don't have room. I don't want to deal with it.
One time, Sleepo and I broke down in my viper on the on ramp to my parking garage. And we blocked everyone from getting into the parking garage. We broke down. And it was just a dead battery, but we had to sit there and charge the battery. And there's like eight cars behind. Remember this? It wasn't me. You weren't there? I could have sworn that was you. You did a lot of dumb stuff with the end viper. Yeah. I'm glad it's gone. It was lovely. But I'm glad it's gone.
Look, any of the cars that I previously owned, I could buy again. And I don't because no matter how much I like them, I've moved on. That's the way it works. That's the way it works. Certainly when Ginalor Frog will tell you that. That's the Ferrari 360 for those of you who are confused. We think it looks like a tree frog, which it does. Or a regular ground frog. No, it's a tree frog. All right. That's all for this car pod. Thank God. This is the best ever episode, I think. Of course.
And we have an app. So that, like, we have an app. And we talked about a cat like CN. And I think we should talk about both those things in every episode. I think we can do that. And ask him. And we. Yeah, we'll says, meow. What does that will say? Woo. Yeah. Like the car. Do you think when the cargo stas it goes, woo. That would be cool. If it existed, I think they should do that. They should do that. I recently said to a friend that it recharges, but it also hunts for prey in small fields.
That's what it does. That's what it does. That's what it feels. That's what it does. That's what it does. Yeah. Goodbye, everyone. Thank you so much for paying attention and participating and watching. And send us questions we want to hear from you. We do. Bye.