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Speaker 1
My mom's side of the family is Italian and my mom's Italian, and my grandma was like a refugee from Yugoslavia. So they, they were very, very poor and came to Australia as refugees. So they like my grandma kind of. Also, I had a lot to do with my upbringing, and it was very much like still that refugee mentality of like, oh, we don't have a lot of food or we don't have a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 1
So she taught me.
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Speaker 2
Welcome to the Third Culture Talk podcast. I'm your host now. In this podcast, we talk of people that are raised in a culture different than their parents, home culture or way of life or nationality, and now they're living in today's culture, which is vastly different than it is of our parents or even back in the day. So let's get in today's episode.
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Speaker 2
Okay. So what's going on? How are you?
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Speaker 1
Very good. I I'm a little bit tired. I was a little bit late this morning because I don't like sleeping in because I got back from London on a Friday night. So then I'm just getting back into, like, kind of, Berlin life. And, I've got a week until my parents arrive, so I'm kind of like, getting ready for this.
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Speaker 1
Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. First time. It's like I've been living in Berlin for, like, eight years. Like, on and off. Eight years. And it's the first time they coming over to, like, visit me over. Yeah. Really? Yeah. So that's the.
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Speaker 2
First.
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Speaker 1
Time. Yeah. So I'm a bit nervous.
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Speaker 2
Oh. Hey, do you got anything planned for you on, like, itinerary?
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Speaker 1
this is what I'm trying to arrange. I'm like, oh, do I go to, like, Kit Kat verbally? I'm like, no, it's like I just, I know, like, what my parents are going to be like, really into. They've done. They've been here before, like before I lived here and they've done the tourist stuff. So now I'm like, oh girl, I don't know what to do.
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Speaker 1
It's like that pressure, you know, like my parents like here and like, yeah, it's like.
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Speaker 2
Next level pressure because they don't like tourist stuff. So now it's like, okay, we really want to see you real Berlin. You've been here for a while.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, exactly, I really do. It's just going to be I think it's just going to be like meeting friends and then. Yeah. Which all my friends are excited to meet my parents, but it's just going to be like a bit of a. Yeah, I don't know. We'll say it could be, it could be a great experience, could be like really frustrating one.
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Speaker 1
But we'll say this is this is the fun thing. So yeah, just getting getting back into like, like I'm here for a week and then I'm sort of gone again. So yeah, off back on the road and traveling and. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, I see you always. You always tour. You always on the boat.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, always on the road. Which is, it's good. But I think when I've, I haven't really been doing much touring now like July, August and I've just kind of been like, oh this is nice. Like it's nice to not have to go to the airport and like, not have to, like, pack a suitcase and unpack a suitcase and like, yeah, deal with all that sort of stuff like.
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Speaker 1
So yeah, that's kind of nice. I'm enjoying. I enjoy summer for that aspect. It's like not so much travel and you can actually just enjoy the city that you live in. So. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
So you home base have been, has been Berlin.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Been I've been. Yeah. Like I say on and off for like eight years here in Berlin. and yeah it's, it's been, it's, it's one of those places that is just so chill to live in and like, it's easy to sort of come back to and in and out. but I feel like every time I'm like, I've got to leave Berlin and then like a couple of years later or a year later, I'm like, and I'm back.
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Speaker 1
Like, it's like an ex. Like a toxic ex. You know, you just kind of like is it's like, yeah, can't get rid of. So. But, but I do, I do love living here, but I also just enjoy the road as well. So it's kind of like a I don't know. Yeah. Always being on the road is fun.
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Speaker 1
Yeah.
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Speaker 2
How long you been on the road for? Like,
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Speaker 1
I guess since I move, like, so when I moved, originally from Australia. So I just found that, like, touring in Australia, I mean, it's probably very different to the States where it's just like, there's so many cities that you can do it too. But Australia's not really like that because the population is so small. So it's not, it's not an easy place to tour.
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Speaker 1
And I just love experiencing new coaches and new like, you know, especially with comedy and performing, like, you never know, like what the audience is going to be. So when I moved to Berlin, yeah, eight years ago, I started to I had I had some friends living here and they were touring and they're like, yeah, I'm just going to Vienna to do a show and I'm just going to like Prague.
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Speaker 1
And I was like, damn, like, I want to do that, you know? So, yeah. So I kind of moved here and just was like, all right, let's see what happens. And then from there, I sort of slowly started doing shows around Europe, like here and there, and then. Yeah, just got more and more and then. Yeah, kind of then became a full time.
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Speaker 1
So wow.
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Speaker 2
I mean, Berlin is, you know, great place. I mean, it's so central to everything you travel to places. Easy.
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Speaker 1
Exactly, exactly. Yeah. I mean, now it's like it used to be a lot easier when we had the old airport, like we had the two airports in Berlin. We had Tegel and we had Brandenburg. And I always found like that was a lot easier to a lot cheaper to travel. But now, like the new airport, it's like a little bit more like frustrating because it's so far away and like that stuff.
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Speaker 1
But yes, it is a very center of Berlin, like of Europe. And you can travel a lot, which is also really cool. So yeah. Nice. So yeah. So it's been like yeah, gosh. Like yeah, just traveling I guess for eight years.
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Speaker 2
Wow. And then so you're originally from Australia and you know, you do stand up primarily, but then also so you have like a musical, you have a music background, right? Yeah.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. Musical like musical theater where I studied like in when I was like, straight out of high school, I went and did musical theater for a couple of years, like studying that. And, yeah, I've always been like a singer and, like, being in the theater and being like that person. So, Yeah, I enjoy that aspect of it as well.
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Speaker 1
I guess I sort of didn't do it for a while, because I was really focused on stand up, and I was like, no, I just I don't want to have, like, a gimmick or I didn't want to do music, I just wanted to do stand up. So, like, there's a challenge in that, you know, like where it's like, okay, no, you know, you sing like prop comics or like musical comics or magicians or like, with this kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1
They always have something which kind of is different. But like, there is a challenge to just doing stand up, like a mic and in front of people and like doing that as opposed to using music in that stuff. But I'm starting to incorporate a lot more back into, into my stand up and stuff. But yeah, I don't know, I like so.
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Speaker 2
Okay, so why that's interesting. Right? Because people that are in theater, and that, you know, tend to be in that realm. Yeah. Or like maybe do acting or something, but like the transition to that to stand up, it seemed like it'd be jarring because stand up ain't, you know, as supportive of a community as it is with theater?
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Speaker 1
No, you're definitely right. I feel, I so musical theater is like, I was. I was so into it growing up. Like, it was like my dream. I wanted to go to, like, Broadway. I wanted to like West End. Like I wanted to, like, be in musicals and this kind of stuff. And then I think after studying it, I kind of realized that musical theater is very it's like an office job, like it's very you do eight, nine shows a week, you go in, you don't really you have a bit of a life outside of it, but it's very like grueling.
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Speaker 1
You're doing a three hour show like acting, singing, dancing, this kind of stuff. And I just not the kind of person that is like used to being told, like, you have to say this, you have to do this. Like so I fell into cabaret after it, which is like that very New York style of cabaret, which I learned at university as well, which is very like you tell a joke or you tell a story, then you sing a song and then like until it's like that for an hour.
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Speaker 1
And so I started doing those when I was like 19, and I was like, I love this because, like, people are paying to come and see me here, like what I want to say and do all this sort of stuff. And then, from there, yeah, kind of fell into, like hosting a lot of, like, burlesque and like circus, like variety kind of shows as well, which kind of is stand up in a sense, because you're emceeing.
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Speaker 1
So it was a lot of emcee work. so the leap to stand up wasn't too crazy from that. but there was a bit of a, like a lot of these shows that I used to do was very like costumes, like makeup, wig. And you're hiding behind, like a character in a way. So but then stripping that away and having to just do stand up, that was like and scary like, that was so scary because it was like, oh, shit.
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Speaker 1
Like, if I don't make them laugh or if I'm not entertaining, it's not a character. It's like, it's me. Like, oh, stage.
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Speaker 2
Oh wow. Did you have like a different stage name than your original name when you were doing.
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Speaker 1
Kind of my name, but I had a couple of like other. Yeah. Like I had this one character was like Virginia Poppy Clark, who was like this, like virgin likes, like very 50s style. And then I had like a diva character, which is very like there. So like, yeah, there was a way to kind of like shield yourself from stuff if like, it wasn't working, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1
Like you'd be like, oh yeah, moving on. Like kind of stuff like, I guess similar to, like, maybe like drag queens and, you know, they're in a character. So they it's sort of you embody a different kind of, yeah. I don't know, persona when you, when you have that character on which is kind of wow.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Did you ever change the names based on how well you think the show will go? Like, did you just change from, like, poppycock to, like, a Michael Steele?
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Speaker 1
Like, no, no, not really. I think it's just because, like, every sort of character had its own costume and like, this kind of vibe. So. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know, maybe one day I'll bring back another character and.
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Speaker 2
That will be interesting. Right? Like if you just saw a show that was very difficult. So like the crowd you of like, all right, this is not the night for, Virginia Pop because, this is.
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Speaker 1
I think there's a lot of, like, there's probably a lot of, like, improv comics that kind of do that as well. That is kind of like you're like, yeah, or ones that like doing multiple characters or just kind of like, I've seen that a lot, like, you know, in Edinburgh or other places, like people who do multiple characters, they can just be like, oh, well, this is not working.
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Speaker 1
Let's just like flip into another one, which is great. Like, right. Yeah. You can just put on like glasses or put on a little prop and be like, all right, we got rid of that one. Got like yeah. So yeah, there's a lot more protection I think in in doing that there's the audience are a little bit more willing as opposed to like a stand up audience where they like make you laugh, you know.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Kind of that kind of vibe.
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Speaker 2
I for sure after a while I started getting like, you know, if a fan star is coming to your shows a lot and then you start putting glasses like, oh, rough night. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, exactly. They're like, they're like, oh, this show is not going Andrew. Well.
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Speaker 2
And the glasses might be a tough crowd here. Yeah. Let's see how to get through this.
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Speaker 1
Exactly. Yeah yeah yeah I don't know like yeah it'd be fun to play with that a little bit more. But yeah I think I do enjoy the challenge of stand up I guess. Like, wow.
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Speaker 2
That is interesting because I mean, again, shout out to you to have the foresight, I guess, or the the perception of, the force of the perception of someone that's doing musical stuff and stand up at the same time, how that can, you know, not I won't say conflict. Yeah. When kind of like be a prop make could be.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. You know, or be seen as a prop. I think both is good. I mean, you know, why not?
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Speaker 1
But of course, I think also like this thing that I say to a lot of comics who, like, ask me for advice or things like that, like the good thing about theater and musical theater and like, going to, like an acting school, was it? They you learn everything. So we learn improv. We learn like all different styles of dance.
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Speaker 1
We learn like different singing. We learn, yeah, like improv, like old cabaret. So you kind of have this toolbox where you like. Oh, okay. Like, if I'm in this situation, I can do this. Or if I'm in a play where it is a little bit more like a different kind of style of theater, like you can bring that out.
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Speaker 1
So, I mean, as much as I hated, like, acting school, like it was the heart, like kind of a very intense experience. But like at the end of the day, you walk away and you go, okay, I don't actually really want to do that. I want to do this, or I have skills that I can use and especially for comedy, I think having multiple skills is amazing.
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Speaker 1
Like if you if you do improv or you do music or, like anything clowning or this kind of stuff, it's always going to kind of filter its way into your standup or make or make you go, like, actually, I don't want to do that. Like, I don't like that, but it's good to try. So I think the more you kind of, learn as a, as a comic, the kind of I think the better you get at it as well.
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Speaker 1
Like in all forms, like whether it's like, you know, reading about different stuff or watching different stuff, like it's always going to like, you know, filter into your comedy and make it better. I think, like in one way or another. Oh yeah.
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Speaker 2
Fact. I mean, yeah, anytime you go through life and you could do stand up comedy, it just adds more to it.
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Speaker 1
Oh, 100%, you know.
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Speaker 2
The worst, the better in terms of what you're going through in.
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Speaker 1
Life. I know, it's like I was saying this to someone yesterday is like the, you know, the comics who always, like, rose to fame very quickly. A comics that had a story like Kevin Hart, like Trevor Noah, like they had a story that people were like, oh my God, like, this is crazy. And the like the fact that you were able to make it funny is even, even more incredible, you know?
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Speaker 1
So, yeah, I don't know, like, that's that's the thing that I was saying earlier, like, I love, you know, the, the whole thing of like, traveling and touring and performing in different countries and meeting new people and like kind of getting an understanding of the culture through comedy as well, which is like a really, that's what I love, like the most about it.
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Speaker 1
Like, yeah.
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Speaker 2
You do a lot of different countries. I think we're talking a little bit, you guys, I Jamaica, you mentioned like.
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Speaker 2
Different spots. You went to the Middle East.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. Even like.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. You used to like, tour in a lot.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. So 2018, I was working. Yeah. This American comic, a move doing like we did, 350 shows in 65 countries that year. So we were just on the road, like, every day. Wow. So everywhere from the only places we didn't really go to is, like, central South America. we were planning to, but then Covid hit, then like 2020.
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Speaker 1
but yeah, it did. Yeah. Like, yeah. Jamaica. we're also we do like all through Asia like. Yeah, China and yeah, Thailand and Middle East and Egypt and Morocco and Egypt. Lebanon. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah. So crazy. Didn't make it to Russia. No, unfortunately, I was really hoping to get to do some, some shows in the Ukraine as well in Lviv and Kiev in 2018, which was like super.
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Speaker 1
They were such fun audiences like wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was super fun.
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Speaker 2
Oh. So yeah, you guys are out and about. I mean.
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Speaker 1
Yeah.
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Speaker 2
How do you guys manage, like you yourself as a person in terms of, like, being in different places, how are you able to manage that? You know, like so many different cultures, so many different.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. I think like, like now I look back on it and I've, I think during Covid was kind of a good thing that happened for, for me because I think it was like on the road constantly in like 2019, we did 250 shows and like we had a little bit more time off that we were still like traveling and touring all the time.
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Speaker 1
And 2020 was the same. And I just remember the start of the year of 2020. I was like, I don't know how I'm going to get through this year, like in terms of because we were living like a life that was kind of like a celebrity life, but like, no one knew who we were like. So it was like this weird vibe, like, we're like, stay in these nice hotels, like flying business, like doing this stuff.
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Speaker 1
And I was like, I had, like, people like, no one we're not famous. Like. And it was only after, like during Covid lockdown that my videos started to go viral and people started to like and be like, oh my God, like, where did you come from? And I was like, I've been doing this for like ten years, you know, like and stuff.
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Speaker 1
But, yeah, I think it was you never really felt like you. I always felt like I was just constantly, like, in the air. Like I never felt grounded. Grounded at all in that time of touring. and there's so much adjustment of, like, you know, and we'd be in a city in a country for, like, maybe a day or two days, like Egypt.
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Speaker 1
I was there for two days in Cairo, and we did shows there, and then we left, and then I think we went to Cyprus after that. And then, then we went to Lebanon and like, we're only be there for like a day or two days because we're just constantly like, yeah, like every day that we took off was losing money.
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Speaker 1
So we were like, okay, we've got to just like make it worth it and just keep on kind of going. So yeah, so that that way is like there's a lot of stuff now that I'm, I'm trying to like write a, write it in a book, like to actually write it out because it was so much amazing stuff that happened.
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Speaker 1
But you just like, okay, next thing, next thing, next thing, next show, riding plane, Uber train. Get this like, do a show, pack up, go home, eat like yeah. So it was a lot. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
I mean, did you even feel like you visited visited those places? Like, would the amount of time you spent there.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. I mean a lot of people ask me that even, like after the shows, people would be like, oh my God, have you seen the church? Have you done this? And I was like, I mean, if I like to play. So I'd go back like, and and I had like an even now, like there's a lot of places that I have been to numerous times and like, for example, like we would go to these places twice in a year.
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Speaker 1
So like Singapore, Hong Kong, like, all these places we would go. So if we lacked it, we would, you know, then go and see something there. But for me, it was more like landscape, like natural stuff, like, yeah, that's cool. But for me, it's really that I felt like I got more of an understanding of the culture through comedy.
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Speaker 1
And so we were doing a show about dating, so we would ask people to write down a dating story or come up on stage and tell a dating story. And this is in like every country. So in China, in Jamaica, like, you know, you're getting these like locals coming up and being like, yeah, I went on a date with this person and blah, blah, and to me, like even hearing those stories and talking to people after the shows was like, oh, this is and you would understand why a culture is like this, like maybe they there would be a lot of stuff that would come up in the shows, like, so for example, like
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Speaker 1
we did shows in Malaysia and a lot of the stories that we were reading were like stories about how like, you know, there was like period blood everywhere, a lot of like, period blood sex. And I was like, this is so random. Like, why is this like here? And it's because in, like Muslim culture, a lot of them don't wear like, tampons or like this kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1
And so it was just like these kind of correlations that you would have between, yeah, like different cultures and like, oh, why like Canada has the most, the best dating stories. Best dating stories. Because they're so nice like Canadians is so nice. Right. And I always made this joke of like, oh, that's why I like, Canadians are like, have the worst dating stories because they'll stay on dates with people way longer than they have to.
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Speaker 1
And it's like, because they're like, oh, you know, like I told this, there was one girl and she's like, yeah, I went on a date with this guy, told me he like, murdered me. He he would know how to murder me and get rid of the body. So on the third date and you're like, why? Like, yeah.
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Speaker 1
Like just the the the craziest dating stories always came from Canada because they were just like, oh, maybe, you know, like, they would just be like, maybe he's like it in Australia. The same, I think similar kind of vibe. But yeah. And then it's like there's that stereotype of like Canadians are so nice. You're like, oh yeah. And you see it through kind of the dating stories as well.
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Speaker 1
I was like, interesting.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, that is wild. I mean, a couple of wild things have just been said.
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Speaker 1
In.
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Speaker 2
The period. One. Yeah, that was it. That's a common.
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Speaker 1
Theme. Yeah. It was like it was quite common in like we got like a lot of stories like that. And then I was like, oh. And then like I got my period in Malaysia and I was like, where are the tampons? I was like, no tampons. I was like, okay. And then so this is like very interesting. But then also I like I know then from, a friend of mine who's Muslim and was saying like, oh, actually, like you're not supposed to have sex during your period.
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Speaker 1
So then I was like that. Then I was like, oh, wow. Like, this is like, oh, even more interesting. So I was like, but they're saying this, but they're not doing that. Like, yeah, it was very, very interesting.
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Speaker 2
Oh, so you, you was learning for.
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Speaker 1
Real, for real, for real. Yeah. I mean yeah.
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Speaker 2
But how was it that they were they were comfortable to reveal some of this stuff because I'm assuming some of this was taboo maybe.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Very tiger. Yeah. Like so the when we did the show in Egypt, like I was terrified because we weren't technically allowed to be doing shows there because there's not really many comedians in Egypt, because the free speech and also there's like this thing called like debauchery laws, like when we were there that if, you're caught in public talking about sex, like, you can go to jail for that.
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Speaker 1
Like it's pretty like, so I was reading about this, like when we landed and I'm like, I don't think we should be doing this. And, sorry, especially in places like Morocco and like, like sort of more Islamic countries, I was like a bit worried about that because I was like, oh my God. Like, you know, if we do get caught, we might go to jail.
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Speaker 1
Oh, so and then, but then that show. So people were a little bit more open to sharing their stories because I would write it down anonymously. So there was no like, you didn't know who was giving the story. So, there was one. Yeah. In Egypt where it was like, I like my women fully covered. So I'm assuming and like a full thing, but with a clit piercing.
00;19;45;04 - 00;19;51;14
Speaker 1
And it was like one of those things where I was like, like, you can't write this shit. Like, this is just what people are like writing in the story.
00;19;51;14 - 00;19;52;20
Speaker 2
And you have to say it out loud.
00;19;52;21 - 00;20;12;11
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So then, like, we would read it out loud and then like, everyone would kind of like stop, like. So there was such this like and Morocco like they had like the craziest like we did the show in Casablanca and it's like underground, of this like pub and. Yeah. And I was terrified because obviously after Egypt I was like, oh, these like, I don't know who these stories are going to go like, yeah.
00;20;12;11 - 00;20;31;26
Speaker 1
And they were like stories. And it made me realize that, like, no matter where you are and what country, there's always kind of like this. Like everyone has the same kind of approach to dating in a way. Like, I'm not saying everyone's filthy, like this kind of stuff, but like, yeah, like there's a lot more open people that need what you would imagine in or like the idea you have of a country.
00;20;31;26 - 00;20;41;12
Speaker 1
And maybe this is very different to what actually is going on, maybe more underground or like this kind of stuff. So yeah, it made me realize we're a lot more the same than we are different though.
00;20;41;14 - 00;20;49;26
Speaker 2
I mean, yeah, I mean, that kind of evens out a lot of things. We start a talk about periods. Yeah. Or to, to that level. I mean as a, as a common thing.
00;20;49;27 - 00;20;50;18
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00;20;50;19 - 00;20;59;28
Speaker 2
Or yeah. Covering well with the. Wow. That is, that is wow. Yeah, yeah. So you learned a lot. Actually, you can probably be a historian. You probably like, you.
00;20;59;28 - 00;21;03;26
Speaker 1
Know, maybe I should do a PhD in, like, dating. I don't know what I.
00;21;03;26 - 00;21;05;16
Speaker 2
Mean, because you got the actual, you.
00;21;05;16 - 00;21;06;12
Speaker 1
Know. Yeah, you.
00;21;06;16 - 00;21;08;23
Speaker 2
You've been on the ground and you've been talking to people.
00;21;08;23 - 00;21;09;07
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;21;09;07 - 00;21;12;16
Speaker 2
You know, notes, you know, put into a box. Yeah. I mean, that's what they do. Yeah.
00;21;12;16 - 00;21;34;18
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. Or they would get up on stage and then tell stories and, and that was always like the really interesting kind of thing because sometimes you wouldn't really get many people doing it because it's very like very American kind of thing where it's like, yeah, I'm going to get up, I'm going to share my story. Like, you know, like these storytelling shows in the US, like The Mars or this kind of stuff where it's sort of a little bit more like, oh, yeah, like I have the confidence to do that.
00;21;34;18 - 00;21;53;09
Speaker 1
Whereas sometimes you would go to places where, like Estonia or Latvia, like sort of or, or in Ukraine, for example, and they're just not going to be as willing to do it. So this is why I like, I would tell my dating stories and the other comic would tell his, so then we would get them. Yeah, a little bit more like warmed up.
00;21;53;09 - 00;22;16;29
Speaker 1
And then during the interval they would write stuff down and then like, what about. So yeah, I mean, I'd love to write, I'd love to write a book. Like I have so much like I think even now, still touring and still talking to people and this kind of stuff like, yeah. But I'm, I'm not sure if, like, anyone would read it, but it's like it's a very fascinating, like, I don't know, like I just yeah, I feel like I learned so much from, from the last like seven years of just being on the road and talking to people.
00;22;16;29 - 00;22;26;20
Speaker 2
And yeah, I would see why you would want to continue going. Me aside from the fun and, you know, the nomadic, maybe, you know, lifestyle and stuff that you hear all those stories. That is.
00;22;26;20 - 00;22;39;12
Speaker 1
Wild. Yeah. And even after the show, like, people will come up and they'll be like, oh, I've got to tell you the story. Like, they might not be. I mean, now with my show, it's more like I do my solo and and I don't talk to the audience as much as, like I have in the, in the past.
00;22;39;12 - 00;22;47;01
Speaker 1
Like, but yeah, still, people after the show will be like, I need to tell you or they'll slide into my DMs and like, I've got a story and you're like, okay, like, oh, you know.
00;22;47;03 - 00;22;54;09
Speaker 2
You could probably be like, I don't know. Now if they're if this girl or, I don't know, I saw you had some things about people asking you questions and things. Yeah.
00;22;54;11 - 00;23;05;21
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, I don't know, I feel like I'm. Yeah, I don't know if I'm like, really like a good, like maybe I should become a dating coach. I don't know, but I'm not sure. Really sure. Like my track record is I don't know.
00;23;05;24 - 00;23;07;28
Speaker 2
Oh, you track record.
00;23;08;00 - 00;23;26;19
Speaker 1
That kind of thing, but, Yeah, I don't know like, it's, it's it's it's the. I just love it. Yeah. Like the nomadic lifestyle. Although as you get older, I'm, you know, I'm 30, 36 in a couple of months and it's like that kind of it does take its toll. Like I had a lot more energy when I was in my like late 20s and like early 30s to, like, do this kind of lifestyle.
00;23;26;19 - 00;23;35;04
Speaker 1
But I but then also as a comic like it's kind of touring as part of the job, you know, and so you have to kind of, always be on the road. But yeah, it is fun. It is.
00;23;35;08 - 00;23;41;27
Speaker 2
At least you did it, though. I mean, that's something that a lot of people aspired to do. Yeah. You did it to like the highest level in, in many different places. yeah.
00;23;41;27 - 00;23;46;21
Speaker 1
Yeah, 100%. Like, it's very dope. Yeah. It's fun. Thanks. Like it was good. It's good fun.
00;23;46;24 - 00;24;04;03
Speaker 2
Yeah. So let's start, you know, let's start from where you came from. Okay. Australia. Well, just a quick break. I don't run advertising on this podcast currently. So, one thing I ask for you guys is to just share and spread the word about. This podcast is a podcast where we talk to people from different cultures, different walks of life, and with sharing.
00;24;04;03 - 00;24;20;16
Speaker 2
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00;24;20;18 - 00;24;25;16
Speaker 2
So thank you very much in advance and let's get back into the episode.
00;24;25;18 - 00;24;42;23
Speaker 1
So I'm from a little like place called like Torquay Bell's Beach. It's a really big surf town in like about an hour from Melbourne in like very south of Australia. so yeah, I grew up grew up there. My whole left grew up on like a farm, like, about ten minutes from the beach.
00;24;42;23 - 00;24;49;12
Speaker 1
So like. Yeah, like we have, like, cows and chickens and all. Yes. I'm a farm girl. Like, which is a lot of people like, what the fuck?
00;24;49;13 - 00;24;55;18
Speaker 2
Like, so you know how to really, like, do some farm shit. was, you know, like, you know how to milk cows, you know, like, you know, chickens.
00;24;55;19 - 00;24;56;01
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;24;56;03 - 00;25;00;11
Speaker 2
You know how to, I don't know, something with corn.
00;25;00;13 - 00;25;18;10
Speaker 1
we only we didn't have too much corn, but, like. Yeah, like, we, we did have corn for a little bit. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Full on. Like it was, It's funny, cause my my boyfriend's, Indian. He's like. And he's Hindu and, like. No, doesn't really like touching meat or anything like that. He eats a little bit, but, like, now, like when we have chicken, he's like, can you, can you do it?
00;25;18;10 - 00;25;37;07
Speaker 1
And I was just like, yeah, like I can prepare. He he's just like he's like, I can't. And growing up like, so my grandma, was, both my mom's side of the family's Italians. I, my mom's Italian and my grandma was like a refugee from Yugoslavia. So they, they were very, very poor and came to Australia as refugees.
00;25;37;09 - 00;25;52;21
Speaker 1
So they, like my grandma kind of also had a lot to do with my upbringing. And it was very much like still that refugee mentality of like, we all we don't have a lot of food or we don't have like this stuff. So she taught me my dad also like we would kill chickens and this kind of stuff.
00;25;52;21 - 00;26;05;18
Speaker 1
So like as a kid I used to like, you know, like watch chickens and like and like pluck them and then like, cut them open and like, take all the meat out and, like, use all the stuff from the inside of the chicken and stuff it. So like, yeah, I grew up like that, like.
00;26;05;19 - 00;26;07;03
Speaker 2
Oh, wow. That's real.
00;26;07;03 - 00;26;20;16
Speaker 1
Farm. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Like like and my dad's very it's like kind of almost like a self-sustainable farm as well. So like we have a massive orchard. So we would like pickle the fruit, the vegetables and we would like, preserve them and like this kind of stuff. So yeah. So like full on.
00;26;20;21 - 00;26;22;22
Speaker 2
Oh, so you know how to live for real.
00;26;22;22 - 00;26;32;29
Speaker 1
Like. Yeah. But like, look at me. I look like, you know, this, like elwood's like, kind of like blond, legally blond girl. And like, yeah, you're like, yeah. If there's a if there's, like an atomic bomb or something like that, I'll be fine.
00;26;33;00 - 00;26;35;20
Speaker 2
Yeah. Go to you first. Yeah. You know, you know how to kill a chicken.
00;26;35;21 - 00;26;39;07
Speaker 1
I look like it. I look like it. But, yeah, I know how to survive.
00;26;39;07 - 00;26;45;27
Speaker 2
Oh, shit. Yeah. You know, you know, you you that's that's something you can hide, in the cards, right? You know, somebody like, Google, ask our friends.
00;26;45;27 - 00;26;50;05
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. Like, most people are, like, what are you up on a farm? I was like, yeah. Like, yeah.
00;26;50;05 - 00;26;51;15
Speaker 2
You can start your own group, you know?
00;26;51;19 - 00;26;53;25
Speaker 1
Yeah. There you go. A little commune like.
00;26;53;25 - 00;26;58;08
Speaker 2
Yeah, you got to stand up skills. Yeah. So to not, you know, grow an orchard, I.
00;26;58;08 - 00;27;03;27
Speaker 1
Can start a cult is basically what I'm saying. You can do it. You started, you know, very charismatic.
00;27;03;28 - 00;27;07;15
Speaker 2
You know, you got good stories. High school, good parables in there.
00;27;07;18 - 00;27;10;20
Speaker 1
Oh, my God. Totally. Oh, my God, I'm going to do it. Yeah.
00;27;10;22 - 00;27;13;19
Speaker 2
Oh, Berlin. I mean I mean, you know, I just got my visa so.
00;27;13;20 - 00;27;14;12
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00;27;14;13 - 00;27;17;15
Speaker 2
Like I don't think in the visa I can join a cause.
00;27;17;18 - 00;27;33;12
Speaker 1
Yeah. Well yeah I won't be, you won't know it's a cult until like, I'm in jail. You know what I mean? Like, it's not the kind of it's. Oh, it's it it's not how it works. Like people don't know it's a cult until there's a Netflix documentary or someone's in prison, you're like. Like I thought this is.
00;27;33;12 - 00;27;35;18
Speaker 2
A fun group. You guys had a telegram group and everything?
00;27;35;18 - 00;27;40;02
Speaker 1
Yeah, those are fun. It's like comedy. This. I don't think there's ever been a comedy cult, has I?
00;27;40;02 - 00;27;41;00
Speaker 2
Now we do. Nothing is.
00;27;41;00 - 00;27;43;14
Speaker 1
Yoga. Yeah. Yoga call. This is like. Yeah, like.
00;27;43;21 - 00;27;46;06
Speaker 2
Everyone would want to be the leader. There will be no followers.
00;27;46;06 - 00;27;47;13
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00;27;47;16 - 00;27;48;26
Speaker 2
Let me get some stage time on me.
00;27;48;26 - 00;27;50;15
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. True. Exactly.
00;27;50;17 - 00;27;53;03
Speaker 2
There should be a whole bunch of leaders just having rotating stage time.
00;27;53;03 - 00;27;57;18
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly like in front of each other, which is just like an open mic, to be honest. Pretty much. Yeah.
00;27;57;19 - 00;28;02;07
Speaker 2
But yeah. Yeah we believe. Yeah, yeah. Drink the Kool-Aid. All right. Cool, cool cool. All right. You got one more minute. Get off the.
00;28;02;07 - 00;28;14;22
Speaker 1
Stage. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. But yeah. So that was like, kind of my, Yeah, my upbringing was like, very much like farm girl, in a small town in, yeah, in Australia. And so then. Yeah.
00;28;14;24 - 00;28;20;13
Speaker 2
So it was a, it was a you grew up on a farm in a surf town. Yeah. That is, did you ever go surfing or.
00;28;20;13 - 00;28;27;25
Speaker 1
No, I'm terrible at surfing. And I'm also like like someone who also grew up on a farm. I'm, like, terrified of, like, sharks and snakes.
00;28;27;25 - 00;28;28;26
Speaker 2
And I.
00;28;28;26 - 00;28;30;23
Speaker 1
Mean, it's Australia. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00;28;30;23 - 00;28;35;19
Speaker 2
That's that's for real. That's. Yeah. You should know people are not scared of sharks like that in.
00;28;35;21 - 00;28;54;23
Speaker 1
no, I think do you know what it's like? A lot of people say that to me. They're like, oh, I want to go to Australia. But like, I'm scared of the animals and this kind of stuff, and like, that is fair. Like. But, I don't know, like, my uncles go surfing, like, every day and I think in their time they've only ever had a run in with a shark, like maybe once or twice, but it's never been like that or anything like that.
00;28;54;23 - 00;29;02;12
Speaker 1
Sorry. Okay. Yeah. It's all right. Like, it's it's fine. But, like, I think, Yeah, it sounds worse than it actually is, but. Well, maybe you just get used to it. You just like.
00;29;02;14 - 00;29;07;07
Speaker 2
You know, I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's just like it's just one time, you know?
00;29;07;07 - 00;29;07;24
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00;29;07;24 - 00;29;10;12
Speaker 2
I know, like with jaws, a big thing out there or.
00;29;10;14 - 00;29;29;03
Speaker 1
Yeah, I think so. I think that was a little bit before my time. But like I think yeah. I don't know, like for us it's just kind of normal and like where I grew up, it was more spiders and like, obviously sharks and stuff. But the sharks are not spiders. Yeah, but when I moved, I studied in Queensland, which is very tropical, is like a very far north of Australia.
00;29;29;03 - 00;29;37;07
Speaker 1
And that's where a lot of like the brown snakes and like the really poisonous snakes are. And that freaked me out when I first moved out there because, like, I'd see them all the time and I would be like.
00;29;37;10 - 00;29;39;12
Speaker 2
where you will see poisonous snakes all.
00;29;39;12 - 00;30;02;24
Speaker 1
The time. And so we so I was, I went, I was in this town called Makai, which is like far north Queensland. It's, very, it's like a mining town, but it's like very. And I studied there for one year after my high school and, and we so there's a lot of cane fields. So I don't know if you do remember that Simpsons episode where there's, like, cane toads, and they go to Australia and there's, like, they introduce the cane toads to Australia.
00;30;02;24 - 00;30;26;16
Speaker 1
Anyway, it's like a Aussies love The Simpsons, which is like a weird, interesting, and so we basically so there's Cane fields, which is like all the sugar, sugar cane fields. And our, my university was like on the cane fields. So we, our residential college was like there. And then we had to walk like probably, I think like 3 or 400m to like the, the Conservatory of Music, which is where I was studying.
00;30;26;18 - 00;30;41;01
Speaker 1
And yeah, like there'd be days we'd be like walking along the path and you just see this like thing, like Gary, like a snake, like next to you. And you'd be like, I know that's a poisonous brown snake. Keep walking. Just keep walking. Cause there's like, nowhere to go, you know? Like. And the best thing to do is walk because it creates kind of vibration.
00;30;41;01 - 00;31;03;01
Speaker 1
And they'll like, they don't want to be near that. So, Yeah. And we also had like cane toads everywhere. We had like, snake guards on our doors. We had, that was like randomly always like green tree frogs in the sink. Like, which is like, what the hell? Like, so yeah, that was and that for me was like, you know, I grew up on a farm and different obviously down south, but like when I moved to Queensland, I was like, oh my God, this is like next level.
00;31;03;01 - 00;31;03;28
Speaker 1
So oh my.
00;31;04;06 - 00;31;08;19
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's crazy. You guys had you saw poisonous snakes every day.
00;31;08;21 - 00;31;11;04
Speaker 1
like nearly or not every day. But like a lot of the time. Yeah, yeah.
00;31;11;06 - 00;31;20;08
Speaker 2
I mean look, more than two times a year is already like, you know, this is like, if it's like, this is like, level five threat level. Yeah. We need to do something. Why is there a school close all the schools?
00;31;20;08 - 00;31;20;17
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.
00;31;20;17 - 00;31;21;06
Speaker 2
It's happening.
00;31;21;07 - 00;31;36;07
Speaker 1
And then, you know, like he couldn't go swimming in the ocean because we had, six months of the year in Queensland. Like, you can't go swimming because of box jellyfish. So they're like the really dangerous jellyfish that like go you go into cardiac arrest in like 30s like, so you can't literally go into the ocean to go swimming.
00;31;36;07 - 00;31;51;28
Speaker 1
So everyone has pools and this kind of stuff. And there's also up north, these like cassowaries, like those like weird Amy birds that can, like, disembowel you, like they run at you like, shoot, I know. Right. So, like, this is why I like where I grew up in Melbourne. Like, it's like, not that bad. And then I, I moved to Queensland.
00;31;51;28 - 00;32;06;04
Speaker 1
I was like, oh my. Like this is the Australia like that, you know, Steve-O and style like crocodile Hunter Australia. And I was like, I lost it a year, not even a year. And I was like, get me back to like, get me back to Victoria. I'm like, I'm good, I'm good.
00;32;06;06 - 00;32;09;29
Speaker 2
Wait a minute, wait a minute. You have.
00;32;10;01 - 00;32;11;11
Speaker 1
Birds? Yeah.
00;32;11;11 - 00;32;12;18
Speaker 2
That disembowel.
00;32;12;18 - 00;32;13;18
Speaker 1
You? Yeah, yeah.
00;32;13;21 - 00;32;17;25
Speaker 2
And this is like part of a year to day. This is out in India.
00;32;17;28 - 00;32;34;00
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. So you'll be driving. Where was I driving recently? I think it was a couple of years ago. We were driving, from ordinary, from somewhere like Townsville or down the coast. And there's actually signs like, like beware Cassowaries because, like, they can just leave in there. So if you and I'm always terrified, it's like, don't break down the car.
00;32;34;01 - 00;32;49;22
Speaker 1
Like, well, like just get like, you know, you just I mean, you don't really see them out on the road, but if you do, they can they literally like I'll show you like after we finish, like the photos is scary. And they've got these, like, they look like prehistoric, like dinosaurs, like they've got these, like, claws that they'll just run at you and, like, jump in like.
00;32;49;22 - 00;32;52;21
Speaker 1
Yeah. December. Yeah. Oh, my God.
00;32;52;21 - 00;32;57;17
Speaker 2
That is crazy. So like, is it, are these attacks often?
00;32;57;19 - 00;33;20;27
Speaker 1
no, I think a lot of it is like people like Germans and stuff coming to Australia that are like backpacking and they don't really know about, like, the animals. So even up north, like even in Darwin, Northern Territory and stuff, there's all these signs are in like different languages, but a lot of German signs as well, because there's a lot of German, like a lot of Germans go to Australia going on like a backpacking kind of thing.
00;33;21;00 - 00;33;36;15
Speaker 1
and they travel around and yeah, there's all these signs like, beware of crocodiles, beware of cassowaries, like beware. There's like because yeah, like if you're if you don't really speak the language or whatever and you don't really understand, like this is a dangerous place to be. Like, yeah, it's pretty crazy.
00;33;36;15 - 00;33;47;16
Speaker 2
Okay. This is like a side tangent, but this is I think it's important is a great time to ask, how important was Animal Planet or like the Discovery Channel, how big of a thing was that in Australia?
00;33;47;19 - 00;34;12;16
Speaker 1
it's not I don't think it was that big. So this is what I say. Like, I made a joke about it, in my last show, but, like, in Australia, like, I don't remember anything academic from school, but what I do remember from, like, especially my, like, primary school, was basically we were taught how to swim super early in Australia, like, because there's rips, there's like sharks, like this kind of stuff.
00;34;12;19 - 00;34;31;15
Speaker 1
you also taught how to like, you know, if there's a snake, if you get bitten by a snake, what to do? So like, we're taught all these things at school, like, which is the kind of thing that you remember. So I don't know, like that's also what's important in like, schooling in Australia is like, how to survive, you know, like, it's not algebra, like this kind of stuff.
00;34;31;15 - 00;34;46;29
Speaker 1
It's like, yeah. Like, how do you how do you survive in this kind of environment? So, had like bushfires, which are very big where I grew up and stuff as well. So, yeah, like you have classes on and schooling on that. And because it's fear based, you remember it. So yeah.
00;34;46;29 - 00;34;51;00
Speaker 2
I mean there's like for real like, I mean, you can teach you about the, the, the birds that disembowel.
00;34;51;00 - 00;35;06;15
Speaker 1
You know, because they like native to Queensland. But like I think schools in probably some of Queensland also like in Northern Territory, like where crocodiles and stuff are quite big, like they would probably teach you about, you know, what would happen if you run into an or what to do and yeah. Okay.
00;35;06;16 - 00;35;10;22
Speaker 2
So yeah, you guys got taught. So you guys didn't need a TV show to teach you. You guys had a real life.
00;35;10;22 - 00;35;24;17
Speaker 1
Yeah. Places. Yeah. I mean, obviously not like if you're in Sydney or if you're in, like, CBD or like suburban Melbourne or this kind of stuff, but, I think anywhere else like regional or rural, like, they're the things you're going to be learning, like in your school or this kind of stuff.
00;35;24;20 - 00;35;26;25
Speaker 2
how about the crocodile Hunter?
00;35;26;27 - 00;35;29;25
Speaker 1
I mean, he's a national treasure, to be honest. Like, I.
00;35;29;25 - 00;35;31;11
Speaker 2
Mean, he is loved by many.
00;35;31;11 - 00;35;47;28
Speaker 1
People. Yeah, yeah, he's, that he was kind of, I think back in the day, he was so big. And even now he's like son and daughter, Bindi and Robert, like, they're both big celebrities and stuff in Australia and like. Yeah, it's like, yeah, he's. Yeah, a national treasure. Like everyone was devastated. I think the whole world.
00;35;48;03 - 00;35;53;29
Speaker 2
Oh yeah. I almost, almost teared up when he had like, something out of the sun. Has something going on about it.
00;35;54;01 - 00;36;03;13
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. and it was all these like, because he was only like, I think two or something when his dad died. So I was like, yeah, I saw that thing. He was like, you know, my, the anniversary of his dad knows is like.
00;36;03;15 - 00;36;07;14
Speaker 2
Oh my God, I will like dies, dies his son for real?
00;36;07;14 - 00;36;07;24
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;36;08;01 - 00;36;11;08
Speaker 2
The whole looks, everything. I'm like, that's his son for.
00;36;11;08 - 00;36;25;02
Speaker 1
Real and even personality wise. And like, all this sort of stuff, like, he didn't have to get into doing what he does, like animal stuff. Like, he could have been like, nah, fuck that. Like, yeah, he could have been influencer. Yeah. He's serious. I mean, he kind of is an influencer as well. Like he's TikTok's gone off, but yeah, yeah.
00;36;25;02 - 00;36;26;15
Speaker 2
But he, he's he still keeps it real.
00;36;26;16 - 00;36;27;09
Speaker 1
Yeah yeah yeah.
00;36;27;11 - 00;36;32;13
Speaker 2
You know he's being that like and then happens to be in celebrity because of that.
00;36;32;13 - 00;36;32;23
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;36;32;23 - 00;36;38;04
Speaker 2
When you know he could have been like a nepo baby you know being like hey so I'm you know I'm the crocodile hunter son.
00;36;38;04 - 00;36;39;02
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. You know, give me.
00;36;39;02 - 00;36;39;09
Speaker 2
With that.
00;36;39;09 - 00;36;40;12
Speaker 1
One. Yeah, yeah.
00;36;40;14 - 00;36;43;14
Speaker 2
Any hotel you should give me comp. You know, he could have done that.
00;36;43;14 - 00;37;00;02
Speaker 1
Yeah. I mean, he's like, yeah, he's still I mean he was on I think I think he hosts like I'm a celebrity Get Me Out of here now in Australia like so he's on like a lot of TV one as well. So yeah he's he's cool like he's like very down to earth and like you know he I don't think he would have been like that because he's like family.
00;37;00;02 - 00;37;06;08
Speaker 1
And his dad is not like that either. So it was very much just like for the good of the animals. And like this kind of stuff. So. Yeah.
00;37;06;11 - 00;37;11;20
Speaker 2
that's good. That's good to hear. Okay. That's good that he's also good. He's he's popular as well in Australia as he is everywhere else.
00;37;11;24 - 00;37;27;07
Speaker 1
Yeah. And very down to earth, which is but I think in Australia, if you're not like that, you probably like it. I don't know, Australians aren't like, they don't like people who are too, like, showy or like too confident in or this kind of stuff that you have to kind of be like on, chill. Like, this is the kind of bad.
00;37;27;07 - 00;37;29;19
Speaker 2
Yeah, the parts of the world that is something. Right?
00;37;29;20 - 00;37;30;06
Speaker 1
Like, yeah.
00;37;30;06 - 00;37;32;04
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. I don't like the American bravado.
00;37;32;05 - 00;37;49;15
Speaker 1
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean it's it's changing I think a little bit now because of like the kind of influencer culture and like online and this kind of stuff. but for the most part, like we have this thing, like tall poppy syndrome in Australia, which is like where if you are better than everyone else, people will be like, oh, look at her.
00;37;49;15 - 00;38;05;22
Speaker 1
Like, well, she doing like this kind of stuff. So which I don't really like because I mean, I love doing shows in America and being there because, like, people celebrate you, you know, like, oh man, you're doing this. That's fucking awesome. That's great. Like you're like, yeah, I like, you know, like as opposed to Australia, which would just be like, oh yeah, it's good.
00;38;05;22 - 00;38;13;16
Speaker 1
Yeah. It's good you doing that. Like where there's like an underlying like jealousy or this kind of stuff. So yeah, I mean, yeah, it's like it's good.
00;38;13;18 - 00;38;21;01
Speaker 2
Okay. So then, you went so you went to school out there, you know, college and everything? Yep. And then, you started standup in Australia.
00;38;21;03 - 00;38;48;07
Speaker 1
I started it actually mainly here in Berlin. Oh, you started Berlin? Yeah. So I was doing. I was doing cabaret and, Yeah, like theater and all this sort of stuff in Australia and, and then, yeah, I sort of, I wanted to start getting into it in Australia. but it was just back then, it was a very different culture, like I feel in terms of comedy, like, it's very it's still kind of is all, all throughout the world, like it's very male dominated kind of industry and this kind of stuff.
00;38;48;07 - 00;39;08;08
Speaker 1
And I always felt, I think I felt a little bit more conscious about, like going into comedy that just because I, like I, people tend to like pigeonhole you as well. So they were like, all you like. I was doing the comedy festivals, I was doing fringe, I was doing the circuit Adelaide and Perth, but I was doing more like cabaret kind of shows.
00;39;08;08 - 00;39;26;20
Speaker 1
And so they were like, oh, but you're not a comedian. Like, you're you're a cabaret singer or you're a musical comedian. And I just felt like it was a little bit more difficult to sort of get in to the comedy. And then I the first I moved to Berlin, I did a set at Cosmic Comedy, and, the first day I moved here, like, I was just like my friend was like doing a spot.
00;39;26;20 - 00;39;41;20
Speaker 1
And I was like, yeah, I'll go up and do it. I had no idea. And I went up there and like, did this spot and then got like a standing ovation and like, Neil and I were like, oh, I got like, here's a mug, like congratulations. Like. And, and then from there I was like, okay, maybe I'll give this like comedy thing a little bit more of a go.
00;39;41;20 - 00;40;04;28
Speaker 1
And I felt more at ease here. to. Yeah, to really try it and also have like, you know, different audiences, like, as you know, here, like the audiences are so diverse, which is amazing. You can get a you can get a good rate on comedy. I mean, it depends, but yeah, this was like and then I just fell in love with the scene here and, started doing like a monthly cabaret here.
00;40;05;01 - 00;40;14;17
Speaker 1
and then. Yeah. And then met this American guy, this American comic. And then we just started touring together, and, like, I sort of left this out of 2018, so I was only here for like two years and then. Oh, yeah. Right.
00;40;14;21 - 00;40;15;05
Speaker 2
Sorry.
00;40;15;07 - 00;40;19;28
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. And then came back in in 2020. So yeah. Crazy.
00;40;20;00 - 00;40;39;08
Speaker 2
Wow. So yeah you've been definitely out and about. Yeah. So Berlin you came out here, you know you did the cosmic comedy first place where you started. but then also to Berlin is notorious for, many different things. you know, lifestyle. I mean, one thing that, I know I get asked a lot about, too, is like, dating here in Berlin.
00;40;39;10 - 00;40;46;22
Speaker 2
you know, and, you know, I don't know if you have any thoughts on that. I'm still. I'm still trying to figure it out.
00;40;46;24 - 00;40;47;05
Speaker 1
I mean.
00;40;47;05 - 00;40;49;11
Speaker 2
It's it's questions. I get a lot, and I'm, you know.
00;40;49;11 - 00;40;50;03
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's his.
00;40;50;03 - 00;40;50;17
Speaker 2
Question on.
00;40;50;18 - 00;41;11;29
Speaker 1
You. Yeah. I mean, I mean, also, like, I, a lot of people when I was touring because I, I dated quite heavily when I moved to Berlin because also like when you moved to a new city, if you don't know people, that many people, you know, and actually a lot of my friends, my whole group of friends or people that I've met, because of like dates that I've been on, but we've, like friends, learned each other and then you sort of make new connections from that.
00;41;11;29 - 00;41;29;27
Speaker 1
So I think in that time it was good. But yeah, I dated heavily when I got here and I had these like, wild experiences, which then became my stand up. And then people always like, you know, in random places like these stories, like real. And I was like, yeah, I live in Berlin. Like, this is the reality of dating in this city, you know?
00;41;29;27 - 00;41;52;28
Speaker 1
And so I think and I just think it's that melting pot of like different cultures and like, this city has got that kind of Peter Pan like lost soul kind of mentality to it as well. Maybe not so much anymore, but I really feel like, when I first moved here, it was still this, like very like or maybe that was the kind of more, like, groups that I was kind of in at that time.
00;41;52;28 - 00;42;10;22
Speaker 1
But, yeah, it was just like crazy. And then dating here is, like, so terrible that I gave up a long time ago, like, I think even, like, was it like the beginning of the year? And I'd just gone through a breakup and I just download the apps again, and I saw this same people on the app from like 6 or 7 years ago, and they're like, hey, Elena.
00;42;10;23 - 00;42;12;03
Speaker 1
I was like, oh.
00;42;12;03 - 00;42;13;12
Speaker 2
They reach out to you that fast?
00;42;13;18 - 00;42;23;03
Speaker 1
oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Or they would like, they would see me on the app and then they would like slide into my DMs on Instagram and be like, hey, what's up? I saw you're like and you're like, oh.
00;42;23;03 - 00;42;26;01
Speaker 2
Wow, that must have been so like jarring.
00;42;26;03 - 00;42;31;18
Speaker 1
And then I was like, judging them. I was like, I was like, oh, these people are still in. And I was like, Elena, you're still.
00;42;31;20 - 00;42;33;26
Speaker 2
Yeah. If I just got out at the same time, maybe. Who knows?
00;42;33;26 - 00;42;47;13
Speaker 1
Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah, I don't know. But it was like I was just like that horrible thing of like. And then I deleted it and straight away again, I was like, this is nothing, but I, I tend to like not I haven't dated here for a long time, I think because I don't really I know I'm not going to like, be here forever.
00;42;47;13 - 00;43;01;06
Speaker 1
So I was like, I didn't want to, like, meet someone and then like, settle down here and this kind of vibe. so yeah, I sort of tend to, I tend to do, like, the long distance stuff a lot more than like, yeah, dating this is. But I mean, everything with me is long distance, to be honest. Like, I'm always on the road.
00;43;01;06 - 00;43;16;04
Speaker 1
So, but, yeah, I was dating, dating someone in India last year in Mumbai, so I was doing, like, the long distance from you to Mumbai. What? I know, and then, And then. Yeah. Now I'm, like, dating someone in London, so. Yeah, it's very, you know, my life is very.
00;43;16;07 - 00;43;31;27
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, how do you manage good long distance relationships? you know, it's different for here than it is in America. Like, especially where I live in New York City. That. Yeah. So I lived in if you lived in Brooklyn. So I live in the Bronx, that that that that relationship can happen. It's like too far. It's like it's like, all right, this is it.
00;43;31;27 - 00;43;42;25
Speaker 2
So long distance relationships for Americans in America is difficult, is like different. It's like anything pass an hour is like all right, well, you know, if somebody's not gonna make a move, this is it.
00;43;42;25 - 00;43;43;13
Speaker 1
Exactly.
00;43;43;14 - 00;43;50;11
Speaker 2
You know, for you, you got multiple time zone, relationships. And, I mean, like, how do you how do you manage it?
00;43;50;11 - 00;44;19;03
Speaker 1
Like, I think like, I mean, I guess also it's been something that I've done now for so long that it's kind of natural for me in, in terms of like, because, like, I'm always on the road, so there's always going to be some aspect of distance to, to like to the relationship. and I mean, yeah, like when I first moved here, like if I dated someone in like noy con, I was in Prince La back, I was like, I was I was like, I want to take the UAE like crazy, like, you know, so yeah, I think, but I think I just got used to it and
00;44;19;06 - 00;44;38;04
Speaker 1
Yeah. I mean, also you need to find someone who's also willing to do it as well. And that's that's a big ask for, dating. Like, I know I've been very single a lot of my life like. And that is because of touring, you know, like, it's very difficult to find someone who's also okay with you traveling so much and doing this.
00;44;38;07 - 00;44;54;10
Speaker 1
And also, they might have an idea of like, you're like, you know, you've got all these people like that, want to fuck you after the show. And I was like, that's like, I'm a female comic. Like, that does not happen. Like, it happens more than male going to be definitely not to be what got me. So yeah, I think it just takes yeah.
00;44;54;10 - 00;45;20;13
Speaker 1
It's like for me it's, it's, it's quite normal. Like I'm, I'm very used to doing it, but it's just very good communication and having. Yeah. Like that in it. And yeah, just the other person that also wants to do it as well. And that's like which is difficult. But yeah, I think now like I'm starting to realize like, you know, I'm compromising a lot more in terms of like doing a lot less shows like this year, I've, really been prioritizing my relationship and trying to,
00;45;20;16 - 00;45;36;26
Speaker 1
Yeah. And that that means, like, less shows, which is hard because it's like something that I've, you know, it's been inherently in me for so long. So, but yeah, that's I mean, that's the thing, if you want a relationship, then you need to make compromises. And, Yeah. So I don't know. We'll see.
00;45;36;28 - 00;45;46;01
Speaker 2
Yeah. No, that's I mean, thank you for sharing that because, you know, I think a lot of people are in these, situations in term and long term. You know, I have friends who also date people in different.
00;45;46;01 - 00;46;02;29
Speaker 1
Countries and stuff. I think it's a lot more common in Europe. I think, like I've noticed, like Australia, not so much America. probably. Yeah, not so much either. But I do feel like Europe. Like there's a lot of people that would go to uni together, and then someone gets a job in Brussels, like one of my really good friends.
00;46;02;29 - 00;46;21;12
Speaker 1
He lives in Brussels and his girlfriend lives in Sweden, and they've been doing long distance for three years, like and I've had there was another guy that came to my show in Lausanne, not Lausanne in Geneva. And he. Yeah, he lived in Lausanne and his girlfriend lived in London. And it was because both of them were like studying, like they were together for a little bit, but then they both got like.
00;46;21;12 - 00;46;43;02
Speaker 1
And they just make it work. And I think in Europe it's like, I don't know, people are so much more used to like traveling or having those kind of relationships maybe. yeah. I mean, not obviously not everyone, but definitely people who are, you know, moving for work or this kind of stuff like it's, I don't know, I think I feel like it's a more common thing here that I've, that I've heard, but,
00;46;43;05 - 00;46;48;19
Speaker 1
Yeah, still not easy, but definitely. yeah, I don't know. Let's see.
00;46;48;22 - 00;46;51;02
Speaker 2
I mean, shout out to Ryanair and Easyjet, right? Yeah.
00;46;51;02 - 00;47;03;16
Speaker 1
Because like this is it. Yeah. This is flights. I mean God makes it easy. The amount of time. Yeah. Makes it easy, pardon the pun with the Easyjet but I yeah I mean, the amount of money I've given to Easyjet going to London this year is it's a lot it's a lot of money. So yeah.
00;47;03;19 - 00;47;09;00
Speaker 2
At least that, you know, because, yeah. Yeah. That's the one thing about Europe I like is that the flights are so cheap.
00;47;09;00 - 00;47;09;27
Speaker 1
Exactly.
00;47;09;29 - 00;47;17;09
Speaker 2
yeah. Very cheap, I mean, and not as bad as airlines in America. Even, like some of the middle line airlines, you know?
00;47;17;15 - 00;47;36;14
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's you don't have to fly fly spirit or this like it Ryan. Ryanair's pretty good. Like people always people always complain about Ryanair. But I'm like it's I mean Australia as well. Like it cost I think it was like when I was flying I did a show in where was I in Darwin. And I had it show two days later in Perth, and that's a two hour flight.
00;47;36;16 - 00;47;55;21
Speaker 1
And the flight cost was it was cheaper for me to fly from Darwin to Bali, have a night in Bali and at a five star hotel, and then fly the next day, like from, Bali to Pest. Then it was to fly that direct one hour flight from, Darwin to Perth. Well, yeah.
00;47;55;24 - 00;47;58;23
Speaker 2
That is. Oh yeah. That's a that's crazy.
00;47;58;23 - 00;48;12;27
Speaker 1
And everyone was like, why are you doing that? I'm like, why wouldn't I do that? Like it was literally 1,500 AUD to fly one way from Darwin. I mean, I was like, I can literally fly to Bali and then Bali to pass the cheaper. And then people complain about, you know, like, like carbon emissions and all this stuff.
00;48;12;27 - 00;48;19;26
Speaker 1
I'm like, well, these airlines need to make it better. like, if I, if that flight was cheap, I would, I would have taken it 100%.
00;48;19;28 - 00;48;23;29
Speaker 2
carbon emissions. That's a big thing out here in Europe, right? About like here, you know?
00;48;24;05 - 00;48;41;24
Speaker 1
Yeah, but in Australia or America, it's like that's there's no infrastructure in terms of trains, like one of the most flown, routes in the world is Melbourne to Sydney. So I was looking at like the the most flown routes in the world. And I think Melbourne to Sydney is like 3 or 4 like, and that you could easily put a fast train but it's just there's no infrastructure, there's no.
00;48;41;24 - 00;48;59;14
Speaker 1
And the the amount of people taking it wouldn't be as much as, you know, like this. So yeah Europe I, I love that you have options for trains, the bus, the flight like this kind of thing. But yeah, the carbon emissions is very, very big out here. And I always feel bad for flying. I like when I'm touring in Europe, I always take busses and trains like this kind of stuff.
00;48;59;17 - 00;49;02;06
Speaker 1
Also because it's less stressful than going to the airport.
00;49;02;12 - 00;49;04;10
Speaker 2
Yeah, trains are not bad out here too. It's very.
00;49;04;10 - 00;49;25;08
Speaker 1
Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just sit in like the street, like the one to Prague. Have you ever taken the one to Berlin? The food court on that is like old school. Like it's got like the little lights and like, the food is actually really good. Really. And it's four hours and you just, like, get on there, have a beer, like, have like, like lunch and then just get off in Prague, like center of Prague and walk around and then yeah, get like, wow.
00;49;25;08 - 00;49;29;17
Speaker 2
I mean, yeah, I haven't even been to there. I haven't been there, haven't been to polling places.
00;49;29;17 - 00;49;40;27
Speaker 1
Nice. Yeah, yeah. I mean Prague's amazing. Like. Yeah definitely. I love Christina who runs the Metro Comedy club down there. She used to come to Berlin all the time, and that's. I met her here, and, Yeah, that's an amazing club. You definitely should go to.
00;49;41;00 - 00;49;42;18
Speaker 2
Once a good time to go.
00;49;42;20 - 00;49;58;04
Speaker 1
any general in any time. Prague. Yeah, any time of the year. I mean, obviously winter in like autumn, like fall, like winter is great for comedy in Europe because, like, you know, basically when it becomes warm, no one wants to be inside. but I find Prague is good all year round because it's like such a tourist city as well.
00;49;58;04 - 00;50;08;04
Speaker 1
Like, there's always people there. And, yeah, it's a, it's a really it's a really dope little club there. So yeah, definitely, definitely worth going down there like on a, on the train. It'd be good food.
00;50;08;07 - 00;50;18;22
Speaker 2
at the. Yeah. I need to travel more. That's one of the things that, I haven't been doing since. Because, you know, when you live in New York for so long that you tend to just be in the places where you are and you don't move out?
00;50;18;24 - 00;50;18;28
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;50;18;29 - 00;50;22;00
Speaker 2
So, like, I have family who lived in, born and raised in Harlem.
00;50;22;00 - 00;50;22;09
Speaker 1
Right.
00;50;22;09 - 00;50;28;24
Speaker 2
You never been in Brooklyn to, like, maybe like in their 30s. Yeah. And it's like right there. And it's like, you haven't never been to Brooklyn.
00;50;28;26 - 00;50;51;03
Speaker 1
Yeah. I think it's just a I think it's a mentality thing. Like. So I have family in Italy and like they live I would say maybe like like half an hour to Venice. And my great grandmother had never been to Venice, lived in like the state of Venice, like a whole. I've never been to like Venice. Wow. So it's just like one of those things where it's just like, like, I don't know, some people, it does not travel.
00;50;51;03 - 00;51;04;15
Speaker 1
They're not nomads and not travel as a settlers. And they just stay and they're happy in their little like bubble. And this kind of thing. But, yeah, I mean, even in America, like when I was doing shows, a lot of people would be like, oh, man. Like, you've been to this, you've seen more of America than me.
00;51;04;15 - 00;51;17;04
Speaker 1
And I was like, yeah, like, yeah, it's like, crazy. But I mean, yeah, like I said, some people are just not really. That's not their that's not their vibe. Traveling. You just want to stay, stay in the same place. So yeah. Yeah.
00;51;17;07 - 00;51;24;04
Speaker 2
So your home base Berlin, you've been traveling about what was the most interesting place that you traveled to.
00;51;24;06 - 00;51;27;25
Speaker 1
oh you feel like shows or just like travel.
00;51;27;28 - 00;51;34;26
Speaker 2
Let's go for the, the most interesting place you travel to for doing shows and then the most interesting, you travel two just for leisure.
00;51;34;28 - 00;52;06;10
Speaker 1
Oh, okay. Oh, God. That's it. That's a tough one. I think for shows, the most interesting. That's always a good, good question. I think, that's very, very interesting. yeah, I would say, like, I think like Africa in general, like I because I had never really had like South Africa, I did chosen South Africa and Kenya, Nairobi and and all we did a bunch of cities in South Africa.
00;52;06;10 - 00;52;22;13
Speaker 1
So, like Durban, Port Elizabeth, Cape Town, Pretoria and Jo'burg and I think because I had never, there's never been a thing on my list to be like, oh, I want to go to South Africa. Like, I'd kind of like wanted to go to Africa, but it was never like, I want to go to South Africa.
00;52;22;14 - 00;52;42;05
Speaker 1
Like it's kind of south. And yeah, I just, I like it was just such an amazing experience going there because it was so, I don't know, different to what I kind of expected it to be and like just blew my expectations away. And everyone was so lovely. And just like the different the the different cultures and like how different like each city is like in terms of.
00;52;42;05 - 00;53;07;24
Speaker 1
Yeah, like cultures and diversity in this kind of stuff. And yeah, I just felt like there's this like kind of like cool vibe to it. There's like sometimes when you go into a city, you know, like a city or a country, you kind of get this like energy from that, that city. and I always find it's countries that are quite new or the cities are quite new, like, say, it's a billion, for example, like it's really only like 30 something years old.
00;53;07;24 - 00;53;33;24
Speaker 1
Like it's very in terms of like the new kind of thing. So there's it's like you ness to the city. And I always find that cities have personalities. And the same with South Africa. It's like after the apartheid, like there's like this new kind of like vibe and energy to it, as opposed to like, if you go to like Rome or like Naples as it like it's very black, like it's got this like antique kind of feel to it.
00;53;33;24 - 00;53;52;15
Speaker 1
There's like this kind of like old ness to it. And I find like, and some of that even like, like the Ukraine, for example, like that vibe there, like in Kiev and like Lviv was like Kiev for like was amazing because it had this kind of like, I don't know, it felt like what Berlin was maybe like 20 years ago.
00;53;52;15 - 00;54;11;01
Speaker 1
Like it had this really kind of like grungy, cool vibe. Like everyone was like, really like, kind of hipster. And I, and I find a lot of these places like, Yeah. And or places that, you know, in a war kind of area was, I don't know, they have been through World War like I went to Lebanon and Israel.
00;54;11;03 - 00;54;28;09
Speaker 1
if you go in like that, there's like this party vibe where it's like, I don't know, maybe it's like, they don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. So they're like, I'll just live today. As if it's like, you know, like the last day of my life, like just kind of vibe. And that's always a very interesting when you go to a city like, okay.
00;54;28;09 - 00;55;04;03
Speaker 1
Like and I also think in that the way that cities have personalities, I think people who move to that city develop that personality as well. So I find that some people will people who are not from there originally, but they will then adopt that kind of like Berlin, for example, like everyone moves if they move to Kreuzberg or Noida and they like start dressing in black and then go to Kit-Kat and they like and they like do drugs in the weekend and they like, yeah, I live in Berlin, you know, like they like got this like vibe or you know, people who I know have moved to Dubai and they weren't really very superficial
00;55;04;03 - 00;55;26;14
Speaker 1
before. And then they move to Dubai and then they're like, everything's labeled and everything's like this, and they've got this like, you know, and I that's what I love as well as like, you see that. So I think when I went to yeah, South Africa I was like, this lab is so cool. And the shows like amazing such like great energy and the same with like Kenya and Nairobi like that was and the comedy scene there was just like incredible.
00;55;26;14 - 00;55;29;25
Speaker 1
And Kenya. Yeah. Nairobi. Yeah. Wow.
00;55;29;25 - 00;55;31;13
Speaker 2
So yeah. You've been out. Yeah. You've been.
00;55;31;20 - 00;55;55;22
Speaker 1
Traveling. Travel. Yeah. Yeah yeah. And like I, we went a couple of times to Kenya in South Africa and yeah, Nairobi was dope like I was like the first show I ever did that was like, sold out at, like the Nairobi Theater or whatever. It was like 400W, 400, like black, like women and like mostly women, those couple of men and stuff and like, and of course, all the comics on the lineup were all black as well.
00;55;55;22 - 00;56;16;28
Speaker 1
And I'm just like the only white person and like, and I walk out and I was like, I've never felt like, more like scared in my life. Like. Because I also like, like Kenyans are, like, loud and they're fun and like, you really have to bring that energy as well. Like, so one of my friends, Namita, I don't know if you if you know her, but she's like one of the most followed, comedians in Africa.
00;56;16;28 - 00;56;32;20
Speaker 1
Like, I think she's got like, 2 million followers on, like, an Instagram. Wow. And she's so, so, so funny. And, Yeah, just like watching her work. The crowd as well in, in Kenya, it was like incredible. Because obviously when you, you have the same kind of language and you have the same kind of like, comedy and humor.
00;56;32;20 - 00;57;03;08
Speaker 1
It was like really interesting to see. So like, yeah, like the, the comedy scene in Kenya is. Yeah, in Nairobi is is super fun. so they'll like they will like mores interesting places, I think to do shows because I think I had no expectation of what, what it was. and I think in terms of a place that I just like to travel to is just Japan, like Japan is like we did shows there, but they didn't go down very well because English is not the best like we did South Korea and Japan and I think and China as well that China, yeah.
00;57;03;09 - 00;57;29;07
Speaker 1
Like the English just isn't so a lot of the people who came to the shows were just like, you know, Americans or British who teach English, they're like, that was the main kind of all military in like, South Korea. so but like Japan for me is just like I fell in love with it. And a lot of people do because the culture is just so different to anything is different to Chinese culture is different to like Taiwan, like it's so yeah, it's just incredibly different.
00;57;29;07 - 00;57;45;28
Speaker 1
But like incredible. And it's also different. And like the food is amazing and the people are so lovely. And even if they don't speak the language, like they'll still try and make the effort, you know, like it's yeah, I yeah, Japan for me is just like an incredible place. So definitely, definitely worth a visit. Okay.
00;57;45;28 - 00;57;47;24
Speaker 2
So Kenya and Japan.
00;57;47;26 - 00;58;05;11
Speaker 1
Yeah. Two very different places. Very different very different. But I mean every place is amazing. Like I yeah I loved I really want to do more of like sort of the Caribbean like I mean I love Jamaica, I loved Puerto Rico was one of my favorite places as well to visit. Like, and again, like we went just after the hurricane.
00;58;05;11 - 00;58;17;19
Speaker 1
So I think like, there was this, like, energy of like, oh, we just want to laugh and we just want to, like, release and like have this good time and yeah, the like Puerto Rico is all like like San Juan was just. Yeah, amazing as well. So yeah.
00;58;17;20 - 00;58;35;17
Speaker 2
And so I mean how like how do you select these places to go to like what, what would like, do you just like literally put your finger on the map and play here. This is where I'm going to go. Yeah. Oh it was like this was like it's like these are some random, you know, like, you know, the China, Kenya and the like, these are so many vast different places.
00;58;35;17 - 00;58;35;27
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;58;35;27 - 00;58;38;16
Speaker 2
And how do you make your choices? where the tour.
00;58;38;16 - 00;58;56;18
Speaker 1
Yeah. So, I mean, back in the day. So we had, obviously it was a show about dating, so it wasn't about like, it wasn't like Elena Gabriel in comedy because that's a hard sell. So it was it was a show about dating. So it was all about like, come and tell your dating story and you hear dating stories in a storytelling kind of show kind of vibe.
00;58;56;25 - 00;59;15;01
Speaker 1
That was really just comedy. And so we took it a lot through Europe. And then obviously, more Western countries like Canada, America, Australia, and what we would do is if we were like, okay, let's look at like, you know, a places that we might want to go to, like a map or whatever. Okay. What are visas like?
00;59;15;01 - 00;59;29;19
Speaker 1
Are they easy to get? we would look at like the big cities, and then we would look at, like the population, and then we would be like, okay, this might look like. So we really wanted to go to Guam as well. Like, because we like, there's a big American kind of like a base. Yeah. Base there like that could be kind of cool.
00;59;29;19 - 00;59;53;26
Speaker 1
So yeah, we would like look up the population of the country. We would look up, like, venues. But then we would also do like a Facebook event. So this is back when Facebook ads were like really sharp, because, like, now it's there's too many things is Instagram and TikTok, there's YouTube, like all this stuff. So we would put up an event, in the city, and then put like five, $10 behind it in terms of ad cost and then see what the cost per click was.
00;59;54;03 - 01;00;05;02
Speaker 1
So if it was low enough, like if there was interest, we'd be like, okay, there's clearly interest in a show. so then we'd find a venue, put the tickets on sale, and then, hopefully sell tickets with through the ads. So yeah.
01;00;05;02 - 01;00;05;15
Speaker 2
That's so.
01;00;05;15 - 01;00;06;19
Speaker 1
Smart. Yeah.
01;00;06;21 - 01;00;10;04
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, nowadays, I mean, the ad cost is just like this all over the.
01;00;10;07 - 01;00;29;08
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's also like I find now as well with ads like I still use them, but I think the audience that you get through Facebook ads now is a lot older. Like it's kind of like an older kind of business. So you like, okay, it's cool. But then also if you get people through TikTok, it's very young, like I get people who are like, they're like 22 and they're like, I found you doing TikTok.
01;00;29;08 - 01;00;57;13
Speaker 1
And I was like, okay, yeah. Like for her, you got like the millennials who are still on Instagram. So you've got like, you know, you've kind of got like the generations in, in there. But yeah. So that was kind of how, yeah, how we did it. And if there was interest in sometimes we would just be like, hey, we want to go to this place like, you know, Jamaica, we, we really wanted to go to and, you know, Japan or China and, and sometimes like our shows in South Korea and, Japan and didn't really sell very well, but we're like, fuck it.
01;00;57;13 - 01;01;20;04
Speaker 1
We're like, you know, we're just going to go and do this. But I find also cities where there's not a lot of comedy happening. People are more willing to come out and do that. So like, you know, if you try and put on a show in Paris, it's going to be a lot harder to get people to come than it is in if you go to Riga, Latvia, because like, there's not as much stuff on, particularly in English, and there is an English speaking, I mean, I love doing shows in Latvia like they're super fun as well.
01;01;20;04 - 01;01;34;17
Speaker 1
So, yeah, I think it's this, like sometimes you have to go to like the smaller cities or this kind of stuff or that countries that maybe a lot more people aren't willing to, to or to. But then also for me, like, that's super fun because you don't know what they're going to be like or like it's going to be a completely different kind of experience.
01;01;34;19 - 01;01;35;09
Speaker 1
Yeah. Wow.
01;01;35;09 - 01;01;50;15
Speaker 2
And it must be it must be tough to, to balance like the business and pleasure side of it. Right. Like because, you know, these are some exotic places, you know, oh my gosh, this is just great to be in at the same time. I mean, not on a economical level. Makes sense. Totally. So I mean, how do you balance that?
01;01;50;15 - 01;02;05;14
Speaker 1
Yeah, I think it's so that's why I would always I mean, I don't know if this is going to be interesting for people, but it's like, maybe some businesses will get like be interested in that. So I think also at like last year, I was very much trying to I'm so used to like compacting to it.
01;02;05;14 - 01;02;22;27
Speaker 1
So just like that's why I mean like just go in, do a show the next day, leave because financially it's more viable. Like if your because the longer you spend in a city where you're not working, you're spending money and it can be expensive depending on on where you are. So last year I was like, I'll maybe I'll just do weekends and then like come back to Berlin and have this.
01;02;22;27 - 01;02;39;26
Speaker 1
And I tried that and yeah, economically, like that's not a good thing because like you spend a lot more money trying to get back to Berlin every week and like, so then I went back to my old method this year. So I just did like three months of just like solidly on the road, just like back to back, like doing for five shows a week.
01;02;39;29 - 01;03;01;07
Speaker 1
and yeah, that's that's why and that's why a lot of people as well, like, oh, why don't you stay, why don't you see the churches? I mean, like, you like, I like I would love to, but also I'm on tour and you're also in that to a mindset as well, where you just like, you like, I'm going to work hard for three months, and then I'm going to have a little bit of a break and then and like now I will kick back off the tour like, end of September, October, November, December.
01;03;01;07 - 01;03;18;16
Speaker 1
So it's just like go, go go go go. But yeah, it just makes more sense. And then I can. So you work hard for a little bit and then you have a bit of a break. So it's a weird balance, but I do find it works better both from a business aspect and also from, the show, because you just in it, you're doing it every night or you're doing it every couple of nights.
01;03;18;16 - 01;03;35;00
Speaker 1
So you, you just like you're more creative, you're more like writing more. You just like in it as opposed to like kind of, you know, doing it for one show a week and then like, you know, taking a break and yeah, it's like lagging. You know, I think like anything with, with comedy, it's like a muscle. Like you have to kind of keep at it.
01;03;35;00 - 01;03;41;18
Speaker 1
Otherwise, like, yeah, it's it can kind of, not be as funny like the.
01;03;41;22 - 01;03;42;10
Speaker 2
Rest of you, like.
01;03;42;10 - 01;03;47;07
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah, I got a yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah. so. Yeah. That's. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. No.
01;03;47;07 - 01;04;00;25
Speaker 2
That's it. That's interesting. I think that's important for people also, performers and stuff that want to also, you know, do this, that it's such a open world in terms of touring in Europe that it's like hard. You don't even know. It's like, where do you even start?
01;04;00;25 - 01;04;16;24
Speaker 1
So totally. I think it's always start small. And I think like I'm a full time comic, like I don't have another job. So I know there's a lot of people who have other jobs and which are like, you know, and they do comedy on the side or they want to like, kind of do it. But I mean, at the end of the day, like, it's still a business and I run it that way as well.
01;04;16;24 - 01;04;37;00
Speaker 1
Like, so you have to be kind of smart about it. And sometimes you lose money and sometimes you make money and it's just like, that's just the kind of, yeah, that's the reality of being doing arts in general. Like, you know, you always but you have to have that business mentality, which I think is very, very important for self touring and yeah, self producing and this kind of stuff there.
01;04;37;03 - 01;04;43;08
Speaker 2
Yeah. So like what are some of the top three tips you can give to someone who would like to start tour?
01;04;43;11 - 01;05;03;12
Speaker 1
I think like if you're starting out in comedy and this, I think the best thing to do is start small. Like, especially if you're, like, kind of touring, I think, although I will say like caveat to this because, like touring in comedy has changed a lot in the last few years, I think post-Covid. So I think pre-COVID, like I've been self producing since I was 19.
01;05;03;12 - 01;05;24;19
Speaker 1
So I used to do the old school way, which was like posters and like getting in the newspaper and like, doing radio and like doing advertising that way to then moving into Facebook ads, which was like the, you know, the beginning of that. And then, and then now it's like TikTok ads. There's Facebook ads. It's like, you know, YouTube and, you know, you got to have a podcast.
01;05;24;19 - 01;05;42;16
Speaker 1
So I think the thing is as well, like, I, I was talking to a comic recently and I said, like, start small. Like, you know, I think touring is great, but you have to be economical about it. And, you know, just doing like, small cities close to each other and just like a little bit and small venues, like free venues.
01;05;42;16 - 01;06;01;15
Speaker 1
So you don't have to you have to really cut your costs. So in terms of that, that might be taking a flixbus that might be staying in a hostel like which all of these things I've done by the way, like, many times, and doing small free venues and just building that audience, through that way. I think now also.
01;06;01;20 - 01;06;32;26
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's also about building that relationship with people online as well, like you. That's that's what you have to do and that, you know, you're good. You have a podcast like that that does like, that does that does help as well because you're building a connection as well. That's not just on stage. I think people want you know, I think there's this whole, parasocial relationship that you have with, people like I, you know, people that I watch influencers or, or this kind of thing, like, you feel like you're part of their life and you want to feel part of your life, like, all, you know, like, how's it going?
01;06;32;26 - 01;06;53;02
Speaker 1
Like, I like this kind of stuff. And so I think that's important. and. Yeah, just like, just keeping and. Right, like, I feel like a lot of people are losing, that aspect to particularly comedy now because it's all about like, crowd work clips or it's like, you know, it's editing. It's it's, you know, making sure you like booking the venues and doing all this.
01;06;53;02 - 01;07;09;16
Speaker 1
But at the end of the day, like, we're still comedians and we still have to write. And I think that is the, you know, key thing I hear all this time, like all the algorithms changing and we've got to like, you know, you've got to if you post this trend, you'll get more followers. And if you do this and it's like, yeah, that's cool, but why don't you just like write a joke as well?
01;07;09;16 - 01;07;13;02
Speaker 1
Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I, I know I feel like such a bitch in this way.
01;07;13;02 - 01;07;15;00
Speaker 2
Like this. You have to say this says.
01;07;15;00 - 01;07;42;29
Speaker 1
This before because it has changed and I've seen it change. I've seen like the industry change. Yeah. pre-COVID, like, to post Covid and it's very different and I yeah, I hear this talk all the time and like, you know, like this really is and and if you don't have an agent or if you're trying to do it and you trying to make a following, like I think you have to be authentic and you have to be good, like you have to be writing and you have to because like at the end of the day, like, I mean, crowd works great and these things are good.
01;07;42;29 - 01;08;01;02
Speaker 1
But I think audiences still want a good joke and they want this, like, crowd work is good, it can work. And like, other kind of things. But yeah, at the end of the day, like, if you write good stuff and you write good jokes, that's going to speak volumes to, to you like, and, and that's the stuff that goes in the most viral really like in my opinion.
01;08;01;02 - 01;08;02;06
Speaker 1
But yeah.
01;08;02;09 - 01;08;19;02
Speaker 2
And as you know, as a comedian ask another comedian. Yeah. That you know, a lot of people have fears about putting their their bits on, on the line because of this old adage of if you have something that's online and everyone sees it, it's almost like you can't do it anymore live. I mean, maybe. Yeah, yeah.
01;08;19;05 - 01;08;28;10
Speaker 2
Dead material. So how do you balance material that you have? in terms of what you do live to what you put online?
01;08;28;12 - 01;08;57;19
Speaker 1
that's a very good question. I so for me I used to be like gatekeeping of my like best stuff, like I was like, you know, even that like, so I have a show now which I haven't really put anything online from that show. Like I try to keep that stuff, but also those my shows are very like longform storytelling, like, so they comedy stories rather than like, it's like they punched up stories, but like, they don't really work in like a one minute, one minute, 30 real basically.
01;08;57;19 - 01;09;23;02
Speaker 1
So those ones are there. But so which is why, you know, sometimes you do put up crowd work, you do put up this other stuff. But I also come from the like, I don't know, train of thought that in the people, the amount of people that have seen that joke is 1% of people, like maybe your followers have seen it or you've put out a like my most, like viral stuff that I've put out.
01;09;23;05 - 01;09;43;23
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's got like thousands of millions of views, like whatever. But I'm like, how many of those people, who have seen that are actually coming to my show? Because how do you track that now in terms of like online? Like maybe a lot of these views are from like places where I haven't done a show like America, like I have a lot of, I haven't toured my solo stuff to America since 2019.
01;09;43;23 - 01;10;04;22
Speaker 1
So like if I put online like, and then they might have seen it a year ago, they're not going to remember the joke if they come to the show again. So I think there's this fear of burning material and putting it out online. But if you especially as a new comic, like if you've got really good bits, put them online because that's the stuff that's going to get people to come to a new show and then write new material like, that's it.
01;10;04;22 - 01;10;21;09
Speaker 1
So, and I do think that makes you a better comic because it's like it's forcing you to write more like, like keeping up with it. but yeah, I also feel like, I don't know, like, there's not that many people that are going to be coming to see the show that will remember that joke. Or maybe they bring a like.
01;10;21;09 - 01;10;45;28
Speaker 1
So I've done a few of my jokes that I've put online in the shows. I try not to now because I just like writing new stuff because it's, you know, you kind of get sick of saying the same shit over and over, but, yeah. And like, you can tell like, you might do the show, you might do a show where you say that joke that has gone viral and maybe half the audience won't laugh or like, they'll chuckle and but then they, like the other people that maybe they've brought have never heard that joke before.
01;10;46;01 - 01;11;02;26
Speaker 1
So for me, it's like, yeah, I don't know, like I come from the trend for like, just like it doesn't really matter because you want people, you want followers, you want people to come to your show. So why not put out your best stuff and then get them to the show and then, yeah, be forced to write more jokes or use that one joke in there.
01;11;02;29 - 01;11;19;21
Speaker 1
But I still have people come to the shows and they're like, oh, I want you to tell that, like my favorite story, like the vegan story. I thought you were going to tell the dating vegan story, or I thought you were going to do this. And I was like, like, literally, I can't even remember that story. Like, you know, like I did it for like a year on stage, but I'm like, if someone was like, do it again, I'd be like, I don't know how to say that.
01;11;19;21 - 01;11;31;16
Speaker 2
Like, that is so that is so true. Yeah. That was always weird when somebody say, I want you to do that joke. Like the joke that you heard. Yes, I want you to do it again. It's like, oh, all right.
01;11;31;18 - 01;11;53;27
Speaker 1
because I think there's like, you know, I always compare comics and musicians as well. Like, musicians can literally go and do the same song, like every time they tour to a place and people like, we want to hear that song, we want to hear that song, and you do it and be like, yeah, like, yeah, yeah. But like, you can't do that with a joke so much because like, I, a lot of people don't like, but I think now it's, I don't know, it is changing.
01;11;53;27 - 01;12;11;04
Speaker 1
Like I went and saw, what's your name? Angela Johnson. She did that bit like the, the nail salon bit. It went viral years ago, and it was like your finger, your finger go like this. And me, my friends used to, like, say that joke to each other all the time. We'd be like, yeah, saying this stuff.
01;12;11;06 - 01;12;25;25
Speaker 1
And then she came to Melbourne and the comedy festival years ago, and I saw her, and you could just tell the whole show. Everyone was like, do the bit, do the bit, do the bit. Like everyone was like, But you could just feel this like tension in the audience with like, is she going to do the bit?
01;12;25;25 - 01;12;47;19
Speaker 1
Is she going to do the bit? Is she going to do it? And at the end of the show she's like, so I'm going to do an old bit. And everyone was like, whoa, like and like, and I lost my shit. I was like, yeah, I do it, yeah, do it. So I think if you have like if you have a bit that he's like super viral and super, there's I don't like there is this kind of warmth and nostalgia about doing like an old bit as well.
01;12;47;19 - 01;13;06;12
Speaker 1
So I don't. But I mean that's only if it goes super viral and everyone kind of knows you for that bit. But, yeah, I don't know, like, like I, I don't think there's like a clear answer, like a yet definitive to be like yes or no, do do do old beards don't like or whatever. but yeah, I just, I just think like do you.
01;13;06;15 - 01;13;23;04
Speaker 2
Yeah. No, I think and thank you very much for sharing that. You know, a lot of comedians, even the ones I know here back in New York, I mean, that's as a concert. And yeah, so many comedians I know, you know, we've been to a long or whatever of that fear, even a fear of, even your joke, you know, getting stolen.
01;13;23;04 - 01;13;37;03
Speaker 2
Right? Like it sits on my scene in and maybe taking it or, you know, obviously someone seeing it and then, you know, like, I, I, I heard a joke. All right, I want to hear it again. But to your point, yeah, I think you're doing it. I saw some of your stuff on YouTube. I'm like, oh, okay. These are like actual like bits here.
01;13;37;03 - 01;13;43;16
Speaker 2
There. Yeah. Okay. I can tell, like you, you you wrote this, you perform this is your this is your this is the one here. And you putting it out.
01;13;43;18 - 01;13;43;28
Speaker 1
Yeah.
01;13;43;28 - 01;13;46;26
Speaker 2
Josh Johnson he's doing that I made Josh Johnson I.
01;13;46;26 - 01;14;10;08
Speaker 1
Go in Superfly I was saying and talking about him last night. But I also think having said that on like the stealing material thing sometimes I think it's good to put out stuff because then if anyone steals your joke later on, you can go, oh, here's I put this real up. He's good. So for example, like I, I did a bit a year ago about, like I did this bit back in like 2018 or 2019 about being underneath the guy in the 69 position.
01;14;10;08 - 01;14;32;13
Speaker 1
Right. And it was like a bit that I did for ages. And I put it out on YouTube, I think during the pandemic. And then I think last year, Jim Jefferies released his special, and he does a whole bit about like a woman, like being like, yeah, like on top of a girl in the 69 position. And I was like, really scared because I was like, oh my God, if people ever call me out.
01;14;32;19 - 01;14;52;24
Speaker 1
On stealing his bit, I can actually be like on our he's a YouTube video that I put out four years ago, which is me talking about this. So I think there's also a little bit of protection, if anyone's like, you stole my joke or like if you like, I got called out years ago about stealing, like, one of Eliza's jokes and, and I had never even seen a special.
01;14;52;24 - 01;15;08;29
Speaker 1
And then I watched a special, and I was like, oh, no. Like, literally, because I spoke about two things that were quite similar to one thing that she spoke about. People just put two and two together in their head and they're like, oh, you stole that joke. And I was like, there's literally nothing the same about it. So yeah, so I think there's also protection in that.
01;15;08;29 - 01;15;21;03
Speaker 1
Like I'm also like, yeah, if you've got a joke and you think it's really good, post it. Because then if someone does steal it, you can be like, I got backup. Like I've got dates, metadata, I've got like this kind of stuff. So that's a good point. Yeah.
01;15;21;06 - 01;15;22;04
Speaker 2
Oh, that's a good point.
01;15;22;04 - 01;15;39;29
Speaker 1
Especially now because I was so terrified. I was like literally terrified because I did, I filmed a TV series with Jim Jefferies this year back in Australia. Yeah, yeah. And, and I really wanted to do that bit. He's it's like one of my favorite bits to do, but I was like, I can't do it on his show because literally people would be like yeah.
01;15;39;29 - 01;15;51;11
Speaker 1
And like and part of me was like, I could go back and be like this, but then I just didn't end up doing it. I just did other stuff that, yeah, that was like this kind of thing. It was like, damn it. Like it is like TV gig. And I was like, I can't even do the bit that I want to do because it's like, he's everyone.
01;15;51;11 - 01;15;54;16
Speaker 1
Yeah, like literally. But yeah. And like, it is what it is. So yeah.
01;15;54;23 - 01;15;58;18
Speaker 2
Oh wow. I mean yeah, again, thank you for sharing that because a lot of people have those fears.
01;15;58;21 - 01;15;59;15
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01;15;59;15 - 01;16;04;14
Speaker 2
And you know always want to keep it. So yeah. You actually inspired me to start releasing I myself. Yeah. Am I.
01;16;04;14 - 01;16;21;17
Speaker 1
Going. Yeah. I mean, you're an amazing comic. I've done two shows with you now, and I love the way that you write and stuff, so I just, I always think it's like, if you've got the podcast, you've got this like a I just think like, yeah, just put this stuff out there, like, because that's how you're going to get people to then come to your shows and then it's going to make you work harder and write new stuff.
01;16;21;23 - 01;16;22;07
Speaker 1
Yeah.
01;16;22;08 - 01;16;31;20
Speaker 2
Workers angle like that. Fear alone. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be like, shall I put this joke out here? I can be just doing this job all the time. I want to do some more new stuff. Yeah. And then yeah, that's a yeah, that's a good point.
01;16;31;20 - 01;16;32;14
Speaker 1
Yeah. I'll check.
01;16;32;14 - 01;16;35;23
Speaker 2
You out. Okay. Yeah. Dating coach, motivational coach.
01;16;36;01 - 01;16;45;07
Speaker 1
It can be a lot of coaches right now, you know. What am I doing? Social media coach? I'm going to start a cult. You've inspired me. I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could do, you know.
01;16;45;07 - 01;16;52;04
Speaker 2
Yeah. You do that. you travel everywhere, you know, about all the doing chickens. You know, the dating stories you got people corner you. But okay, these two people are.
01;16;52;04 - 01;16;54;01
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.
01;16;54;03 - 01;16;56;13
Speaker 2
Keep these two separate. Yeah, I know what's about to happen.
01;16;56;16 - 01;17;07;01
Speaker 1
Yeah, exactly. No, I think, like, I don't know, I'm very I, I like to offer my advice whether it's good or not and whether people take it, but, Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes I'm like, I don't think I know much, but like.
01;17;07;03 - 01;17;13;20
Speaker 2
Are you serious with the following? You got any views? I'm holding back the questions tonight. I ask you something. I'm, like, dreamy.
01;17;13;21 - 01;17;14;05
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.
01;17;14;05 - 01;17;20;22
Speaker 2
You have a lot. Yeah. That's something you have a lot in terms of what you figured out there. Especially in a social media game. Yeah. So you know.
01;17;20;22 - 01;17;37;26
Speaker 1
Yeah, but I mean, this this is it. I mean, I've always been interested in, like, tech and social media and this kind of stuff that's always been like a weird kind of thing that I enjoy. Oh, that's so good. But yeah, it's good. And like, always kind of keeping up with the new, like apps like, you know, and Facebook first came to Australia, I was like the first one on and all this sort of stuff.
01;17;37;26 - 01;17;46;21
Speaker 1
So so I was like, I don't know why. I think because my brother is like a big nerd. So I always grew up in like that, kind of like, yeah, tech kind of thing. I don't know, I was like something weird, but yeah.
01;17;46;23 - 01;17;52;19
Speaker 2
Oh, that's a good, you know. Yeah. You. So you got in at a great time. Yeah. So by any of these apps TikTok you probably first.
01;17;52;20 - 01;17;59;03
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah yeah. And I think I had it like and then I deleted it. And then during Covid I was like, oh I'm gonna go oh let me see. Yeah yeah yeah.
01;17;59;03 - 01;17;59;24
Speaker 2
Covet. That was.
01;17;59;24 - 01;17;59;27
Speaker 1
The.
01;17;59;27 - 01;18;01;05
Speaker 2
Perfect time.
01;18;01;05 - 01;18;15;07
Speaker 1
I know, I know. So yeah I mean it's but it's all different. And I think now it's like it is very saturated. I do feel like there's a little bit of like fatigue and stuff with this, but. Yeah. but it's just a slow thing, like, I mean, yeah, I've been doing this for been a performer for like 15 years now.
01;18;15;07 - 01;18;29;07
Speaker 1
So it's like it's and it's only like, you know, five during Covid that people started like finding my stuff and, and like wanting to come and see me and like, this kind of stuff. And I was like, oh, damn. Like, I've been doing like, well, like I used to. Then I'd sing in my shows, be like, oh my God, you can sing.
01;18;29;07 - 01;18;31;24
Speaker 1
And I was like, oh yeah, like, oh, look at that. Yeah, yeah.
01;18;31;24 - 01;18;34;10
Speaker 2
Yeah, triple that over here. You could dance, you can sing, could do.
01;18;34;10 - 01;18;43;10
Speaker 1
Stand up dancing. We get through it. We are aware of fake and we're fake it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know you got the pushing. Yeah. Jazz hands like. Yeah.
01;18;43;11 - 01;18;46;11
Speaker 2
Look at that. You see, look at that perfect jazz. And she has right there you know.
01;18;46;11 - 01;18;46;25
Speaker 1
Yeah yeah.
01;18;46;26 - 01;18;47;22
Speaker 2
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01;18;47;23 - 01;18;55;09
Speaker 1
Don't OnlyFans for jazz hands is I think people are into feet. Are they into jazz hands I don't know it's like.
01;18;55;12 - 01;18;59;11
Speaker 2
I mean funky why not. Right. Might as well try who to thought to also be something that they can make.
01;18;59;11 - 01;19;05;14
Speaker 1
Though I know. Do you know what. Like I think there's fetishes for everything, so why the fuck not like. Yeah, I don't know.
01;19;05;17 - 01;19;22;02
Speaker 2
All right, one more question. Yeah. yeah. Wanted to have more. is you traveled a lot and stuff and, you know, a lot of people who listen, they also travel or want to star travel. Yeah. what are some of the tips you can give to someone who wants to start traveling to, like, say, Europe or Africa or anywhere?
01;19;22;04 - 01;19;43;13
Speaker 1
like for leisure, like. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And if you had other. Yeah. I don't know, I think like it's very easy to be overwhelmed by like research and stuff now I think that's the thing like everyone's got like you know, if you decide to go somewhere, you're like, oh my God. There's like so many things that you I don't know, there's too many websites, too many blogs and like this kind of stuff.
01;19;43;15 - 01;20;07;15
Speaker 1
So I always think, like, you know, going back to like when I went to South Africa, like I had no expectations and I just kind of went into the place and was like, okay, cool. Like I, I let's vibe and see what it is. So I think there's also this like, don't be so rigid on travel plans. I think that's the other thing, for people because it's easy, you know, I know people that will organize a holiday and like, you know, everything is like, we're doing this, we're going to do this.
01;20;07;15 - 01;20;30;24
Speaker 1
We have to do this. And I think that's great. I think you should do that. But I think also like, just like have fun and like just go to a bar and like, meet people or like eat or, kind of talk to locals and see what they say or, and I think because the, the, the best experiences I've ever had traveling is when I've known a local and they've like, told me to do something or have taken me around or this kind of stuff.
01;20;30;24 - 01;20;48;23
Speaker 1
And I think they're the experiences that we really live for now, because like, anyone can just go into it like a tourist spot or go on like a tour kind of thing. But it's like when you actually know someone there and all that takes is just like going out and having a conversation with someone that's a local somewhere, like maybe at a local shop or like this.
01;20;48;23 - 01;21;10;06
Speaker 1
And, yeah, I think that's that's my kind of thing because I never really go I never go on holidays and I'm never, like, fully like, I'm not planned out, like on my holidays. Like, no traveling, like, for no touring. yeah. I just always like, I don't know. And I friends now like, all over the world and, and it's one of those amazing things because, like, I'm just like, okay, what do you recommend or like, what do we do?
01;21;10;06 - 01;21;27;10
Speaker 1
Or they'll just take me to a good restaurant or I'll, we'll, we'll go there. So yeah, I think, that's my, that's my, travel advice is just to like, try and meet locals and like, and, I don't know, like, enjoy it and don't put too much pressure on it because I think we live stressful is very stressful.
01;21;27;13 - 01;21;42;27
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Just and enjoy the holiday and. Yeah, you you never know what will happen if you meet someone or something will happen. And. Yeah, I don't know it's my that's my like way of approaching a lot of stuff in my life is just like, okay, let's see what happens. Like, this is like the circle. Yeah. And it makes life better.
01;21;42;28 - 01;21;44;28
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's like I like that advice. I really don't like that.
01;21;45;03 - 01;21;54;01
Speaker 1
Yeah. Because it's easy to be. Yeah. It's easy to be like super organized and over-the-top and like this kind of stuff that I don't never think you really enjoy the time like that. So yeah.
01;21;54;08 - 01;21;56;16
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's like basically following directions, which is weird.
01;21;56;16 - 01;21;57;05
Speaker 1
Yeah.
01;21;57;06 - 01;21;59;08
Speaker 2
Exactly where to do that on a vacation.
01;21;59;08 - 01;22;01;23
Speaker 1
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It's like yeah.
01;22;01;26 - 01;22;17;01
Speaker 2
Okay. So you've been through a lot. You've been to a lot of different places, a lot of different cultures. Yeah. you know, even early in life you have done this, you know, moving from farm life to, like, in tropical, poisonous, venomous snake and birds that disembowel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the side of the road.
01;22;17;02 - 01;22;19;08
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. Type of culture. Yeah.
01;22;19;11 - 01;22;25;19
Speaker 2
if you what advice would you give to your younger self, going through all these cultural differences.
01;22;25;21 - 01;22;53;07
Speaker 1
I think, I don't know, I always think about that because, like, I always think, like, what would, like, younger me think of what I do now. But I really feel like this is just always something that I was, I don't know, destined to do in like, a weird kind of way. but I think, yeah, I probably just that thing I would just like go with the flow, like, don't stress too much about, like, you know, I think we particularly our generation come from this thing.
01;22;53;07 - 01;23;10;20
Speaker 1
It's like, oh, I have to like, study hard and I have to do this. And like, there's always, like, something to kind of like work towards, you know, like all I want to be like, I never wanted to be famous, but I always just wanted to travel and perform. That was like the one thing, like I found a diary when I was like 18 that I'd written, and it was just like, well, I want to do in life is travel and perform.
01;23;10;20 - 01;23;28;07
Speaker 1
And I'm like, I'm doing it. So I think, like, we're always looking for the next best thing. We're always like, oh yeah, I want to like, you know, do this or I want to like, do this. But I think at the end of the day, like, you sort of have to look back and just be like, okay, I've done the cool stuff and just not stressed because I think life will happen the way that it's supposed to.
01;23;28;07 - 01;23;46;24
Speaker 1
Like, I'm not saying don't work hard because you have to work hard. I'm definitely not like one of those people that's just like, yeah, like I think. But I think in the kind of I'm very much into manifesting because, like, you know, I'm stuck in white go like, this is what I do, but I do. I wholeheartedly believe that manifestation works in a little way.
01;23;46;24 - 01;24;05;06
Speaker 1
And whether that's like daily gratitude or if it's just like, you know, I see myself in this role, I see myself here, I see itself there, like, I really do believe in the power of thought and like, yeah, that kind of stuff. So, yeah, don't stress. Let it be that manifest and just ordinary. That's my dad to my younger self.
01;24;05;09 - 01;24;07;02
Speaker 1
Oh yeah. Let it be.
01;24;07;05 - 01;24;09;06
Speaker 2
That. Hey a little rhyming dude.
01;24;09;08 - 01;24;12;06
Speaker 1
I don't know a rapper busting a rhyme. Like I said, we might.
01;24;12;06 - 01;24;14;08
Speaker 2
Have a rapper over here. Okay.
01;24;14;10 - 01;24;14;29
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.
01;24;15;02 - 01;24;17;05
Speaker 2
Carlito has a, has a rap history.
01;24;17;09 - 01;24;22;25
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. Try to do a little bit of, beats in flow. that's.
01;24;22;26 - 01;24;25;01
Speaker 2
What jazz hands. You know, schools are content.
01;24;25;02 - 01;24;32;01
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. And fans, got to pay extra for that. yeah, I think that's that's I don't know if that's good advice, but. Yeah.
01;24;32;02 - 01;24;47;16
Speaker 2
No, that's great advice. Yeah. I mean, with the manifesting and everything. That's great though. Yeah. whether or not I would say thank you very much for sharing all the information that you have on your story. You even you just thought process. I mean, you doing a lot out there. I see stuff you know, on YouTube, on Instagram, everywhere.
01;24;47;16 - 01;25;04;11
Speaker 2
You blown up everywhere. also just the way you go about your touring, even, with the little bit that we talked about, just it was, is is very like playing out. It's very like, you know, there's a thought process to it which you don't really hear that as much when it comes to touring. You know, it's usually someone else that's doing it.
01;25;04;11 - 01;25;13;01
Speaker 2
Yeah. So it's very dope to hear from you, the main person, the main event that's doing all this touring and traveling. Yeah. And I want to say thank you very much for sharing that.
01;25;13;02 - 01;25;27;23
Speaker 1
You're very welcome. And yeah, if anyone ever has any questions like, I'm always happy to, share whatever knowledge I have. So yeah, if anyone wants to slide into my DMs and has questions about like, touring or trying to do it yourself like I'm always, my DMs are always open. Yes.
01;25;27;28 - 01;25;30;18
Speaker 2
Only for questions for standup comedy.
01;25;30;23 - 01;25;31;29
Speaker 1
Exactly.
01;25;32;01 - 01;25;33;28
Speaker 2
I know nothing about jazz hands.
01;25;33;28 - 01;25;46;17
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. Or poison. Or if they're going to pay me for my my jazz hands. Like, maybe, maybe they might be a bit open for that, but was like, check the bio. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I just change it to like, just hands, you know.
01;25;46;17 - 01;25;47;09
Speaker 2
Oh, I know what this is.
01;25;47;09 - 01;25;51;22
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me the hands. I don't know. Let's see.
01;25;51;24 - 01;25;54;12
Speaker 2
Oh, sell. Well, thank you very much for doing this.
01;25;54;13 - 01;25;56;10
Speaker 1
Thanks for having me. This is super fun. Yes.
01;25;56;10 - 01;26;04;01
Speaker 2
You guys, thank you very much for listening and or watching the Third Quarter Talk podcast. I'm your boy, Jennifer, and I'll see you guys in the next one. Peace.
Australian Farm Life, Multinational Tours, and Dating Stores w/ Elena Gabrielle | Ep 57
Sep 03, 2024•1 hr 26 min•Ep. 57
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I sit down with Elena and we talk about touring doing stand up comedy, hearing dating stories from the Caribbean to the Middle East, and life growing up on a farm.
We also talk about tips on doing a stand up comedy tour, Elena's travel stories, and long distance relationships.
Elena Gabrielle’s satirical look on modern relationships teamed with her uproarious musicality has seen her steal the show from Canada to South Africa.
This Australian born European based comedian appeals to sold out audiences across the globe with her witty, no-holds barred approach to stand-up comedy and because of this, has seen her go viral with 40 million plus views on YouTube to date.
Elena's Socials: Instagram | Youtube | Tiktok | Website
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