Well, Christopher Beth from The Bucket Ministry, how you doing today? Welcome to the show. Very good. Thank you for having me on, gentlemen. I'm grateful to meet you and be able to unpack a little bit of the story with Yeah, absolutely. Well, we're looking forward to hearing your guys' story. Definitely water access, wash programs. Those are definitely something that we always love talking about on this show.
I'm reminded of what some leaders within your guys' field have said is that it seems like something that we can all agree on. And especially when we can talk about it from an aspect of also exploring the gospel and sharing the gospel with other people. just looking forward to this conversation as well.
So Christopher, some of our audience is probably not familiar with your background, so can we start off by maybe you just introducing yourselves to our audience and even sharing how God led you into the field of water access. Sure, well, thank you so much once again. I'm just an ordinary guy. I was a business consultant for 35 years.
More or less, I helped people make money and thought I would be doing that for really the rest of my work career and then I would be able to retire like most of us think about and maybe go fishing a lot. I really had no... desire to do anything but that and certainly never thought about that I would be fishing for men now and using a water filter to do that. really the short side of the story is I got saved at the age of 40.
in a horrible car crash with my daughter and we're both fine, but it led me to a realization that I needed a friend that would never leave me. So at that point I surrendered and repented of my sins and started following Jesus. And from that point on things progressed, but they progressed fairly slowly in my life.
I was still doing my consulting work and in 2012 my daughter came home from Heritage Christian Academy in Rockwall, Texas and she said, hey I want to go on this mission trip to the Brazilian Amazon. And my wife and I quickly looked at each other and we're like, yikes. She'd been to South Texas, but Brazil, mean come on, that's a little bit more of a hike. So we quickly decided that one of us was going to have to with her and I drew that straw.
But really the only reason I won on that trip is to make sure my kid came home. My wife gave me those marching orders. Those were my orders and that's to bring my daughter home. While I had been saved four or five years prior to that trip, I had not been discipled yet. I certainly didn't even understand my own relationship with Christ yet.
Here I am boarding an Amazon Riverboat going 18 hours into the Amazon Basin to the darkest reaches of flooded tributaries and Seeing amazing wildlife, but at the same time I saw things I wasn't prepared to see I saw people without hope I saw people that didn't know where their next meal was going to come from they had no money They had no prospect of earning any
And then I saw something that really changed the way I thought because prior to this trip I was just like I think a lot of people in my position. I've lived compared to the world a fairly privileged life and if I was thirsty I went to my refrigerator, I took a cup and I put it underneath the refrigerator and I got clean safe drinking water. Or if I wasn't near my refrigerator, I would go buy a bottle of water. I had no idea there was a world water crisis.
So while I was on that trip, I had this experience where I saw people that were drinking from the Amazon River and they thought that was normal. I saw people that did not name their children for the first two years of their child's life and again they thought that was normal because that child might not live for the first two years because of waterborne disease.
So I saw these things on that trip and I heard God speak in a way that Prior to this day, I would have made a joke of people saying, hey, I got a word from the Lord today. so on that trip, I came back and I had this burden on my heart of trying to understand what I just saw and trying to understand.
how I could be part of a solution of that or who I could talk to or What the answer was to try to bring these people clean water so fast forwarding a little bit a few more years go by and I'm working full -time ministry through the bucket ministry and I'm also still a business consultant and about six years ago I was blessed to be able to stop working my secular career and started working full -time ministry.
so now I lead this organization that's called the Bucket Ministry based in Rockwall, Texas. And we have about eight full -time US employees and we're working actively in about 15 countries delivering hope through a very simple water filter that attaches to a bucket or receptacle. And our lane is very simple. We have water, we have Jesus, and we have discipleship. That's all we do. And we don't follow a lot of these other noble pursuits that are wonderful, compassionate tools to reach people.
Our tool a water filter that earns us the right to share the gospel that hopefully earns us the right to start to disciple people and direct them to local churches. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. And I want to dive into that more as we continue our conversation.
One thing that kind of sticks out to me, Chris, is that initial moment you're in South America, still early on in your own walk, and you see poverty, a poverty that you... had not previously seen or even been aware of, like you said, like I wasn't even aware that there was this global water crisis, right? It was like over 700 and something million, right? People without access to clean water worldwide. What's the number?
Yeah, the World Health Organization cites that 785 million people lack access. So there's a lot of, there's a lot of, you know, Christians, maybe still early on in their walk, that go on trips and view poverty for the first time. And they... Don't come back and do something. What do you think is the difference there?
I mean, you came back and said, well, I'm gonna devote myself to this, you know, and there was still a process there, you know, that kind of took you from point A to B to C. But why do you think it is that some people travel from the global north like you or like me and maybe don't have any follow -up? What was different? think that a lot of people.
Probably categorize themselves like I did initially and that is hey, I'm just an ordinary guy untrained and educated what can I do about this problem and I think we often talk ourselves out of Possibly engaging in something way bigger than ourselves because we consider ourselves not experts at that particular thing that we've witnessed.
And for me, I certainly was not an expert in water at all, but I saw a problem and my initial inclination to be involved with this was to solve a problem I saw on the Amazon, not to solve a problem I saw around the world. So sometimes we try to, in a way set ourselves up as, well, I have no experience with that. What can I do to help? And the simplest thing, obviously, most of us can do is offer it up in the prayer and let God work through that.
And I believe where our obedience meets His will, something fantastic happens. So I would say for people I brought on trips, they come back and they have all these ideas but then because they talk themselves out of that they can be a solution. nothing ends up happening and we try to unpack it in a way and say hey listen if you do nothing else but come back and tell one person about what you've seen you've done your job so it's too big of expectations in some cases placed by ourselves Hmm.
Yeah, that's good. I think the first thing that you said there was obedience and and willingness to say there there there must be some next step and maybe that is, you know, going back and sharing. But maybe it's going from being unqualified to setting up a nonprofit and becoming qualified and then go back. So thank you for that. We do have one question that we ask everybody towards the start of the conversation. And this ties back within what we're already talking about.
Why do you think it's important for Christians to not only think about their own family, their own community, but also consider the needs of people globally? man, well, I think there's several illustrations of that and I was, I was, thinking about this question this morning and praying over it a bit. I think several bits of scripture that I'm gonna reference here that I think we see illustrations of just that or lack therefore of illustration.
So I think we see in the great commission, Matthew 28, 18 through 20, where we see Jesus saying, therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I've commanded you. I don't see any reference to only tell your family about that in that bit of scripture.
You know, I look back also to probably Matthew 25 verse 40, and the king will answer you to say to them, assuredly I say to you in as much as you did.
it to one of the least of these my brethren you did it to me again we see no illustration of a regional component to that or not going wide and far and then simply obviously a verse that we're all familiar with in Acts 1 8 but you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you and you shall be witnesses to me in Jerusalem and in all and Samarian to the ends of the earth. And I think we see through Acts 1 -8 concentric circles. And right now today we might be talking in Jerusalem.
I spend most of my time at the ends of the earth, but we see illustrations in Scripture that we're not supposed to keep the Gospel in and not spread it, and we're not supposed to show the love of Christ they're just within our own household only. It's supposed to be spread globally. Now, I believe that some people are called to work in Jerusalem and some people are called to work at the ends of the earth. I happen to spend most my time at the ends of the earth.
So I don't believe there's a right or wrong. I believe it's an and. Absolutely. And on that note, to kind of piggyback on that, can you share generally where in the ends of the earth you're working and how you decide to set up a water initiative in a given area? Sure. So right now we're working in about 15 active countries and in North America we're working in Haiti, the DR, Mexico. In South America, well in Central America we're working in Guatemala, Honduras.
In South America we're working in Brazil, Peru and Colombia. And in Asia we are currently working in Mumbai, India, in Africa. We are working in Sierra Leone, Ghana, Nigeria, Uganda, a lot in Kenya, and then South Africa. And then we're starting work in the Philippines this year also. And so those are the areas where we have active campaigns.
Now, Phil, your question of how do we set up shop and That's interesting even for me to consider because in the early days of this, I thought we were only going to be in Brazil. I thought that that is where God called us and As we became, in what I believe is more obedient, we started seeing that doors were opening to other countries. So for the first five or six years, we only worked in Brazil and specifically in the Amazon basin.
And then 2016, 2017, he opened a door into Haiti and then Kenya and Uganda. And then from there, we started seeing several doors open and really. We want to be people that say yes, more than no. But we need to see that there are couple core opportunities for us to go to work. Number one, there has to be people that are far from God. Number two, and really you don't have to look very far for that, obviously, with 3 .1 billion people never hearing the sweet gospel of Jesus.
But number two, there has to be people out access to clean water because that is the tool that's the mechanism that we use to be able to go to work so we never search out new places to go to work it's not like we wake up one day and say Wow, we should really think about working in Cuba. It never happens that way.
A lot of times we will have people reach out to the organization, individual missionaries or churches with partners in certain countries and let's say, hey, we'd like to talk to you about working in this place. And then that establishes an initial contact that turns into a little bit of a vetting process. And we start praying over is this God's will or is this our own entrepreneurial spirit in play here?
And in many countries, it might take us from that first initial encounter to actually distributing the first filter, it may take us eight to 12 months of conversations. And I would love to say that we could be responsive and do that even quicker. But our goal here is to identify is this God's will or is this from some other path. No, that's great.
I love the intentionality with that and what you're doing, how you're going about it, how you're not just saying, hey, this is where we are, but you're open to hearing from God in different areas, but also not just going places and just doing stuff. very, I love that. I love that both and approach that you've developed and established there. And you mentioned that you're using these water filters, you know, can you go a bit more into, you know, it's not unique.
but it's different than the wells and different, there's just these different approaches. But how long do the water filters last and is there anything uniquely valuable about this model of increasing access to water versus some of the other ones? Well, first of all, there's no one that we have served over the last 13 years or so that has to be convinced they need clean water. So the good news is behind oxygen, which I can't really do an awful lot about, clean water is an extremely relevant need.
And even the people that live in the most remote locations in the world, every single one of them understands they need to have clean water. Most of them just don't have access to it. So that becomes a foundational truth that's important because we're not selling anybody anything. We're not giving them something they don't need, right? And everybody wants their family to have better health. But again, most people that we serve just don't have access to clean water.
So that starts the that's the foundation of why water works. Now, there's many, many ministries out there and organizations that do a great job with water. They might drill wells, they might use bio -sand filters, whatever their methodology and techniques are, they are fantastic. But again, our lane uses a water filter and we use a small portable filter that attaches to a bucket or receptacle and it's made by a company called Sawyer Products in Tampa, Florida.
And that particular filter was from kidney dialysis technology and features a technology called hollow fiber membrane. And what that means to us non -science guys is it filters down to the bacterial level and it's very, very effective and can be back flushed for years, almost like a swimming pool filter is back flushed in a way. And so what that means, there's no replaceable parts.
This is a very simple device that's going to attach to a bucket or receptacle that we can teach a five -year -old or a 95 year old how to use and how to care for this thing. So simplicity is number one for us. We're a simple organization. It doesn't take very long to spend time with me to know that I'm extremely simple and I like to keep this entire process simple. I think the filter is simple. I honestly think a relationship with Jesus is We just tend to make it really complicated.
So the filter is this mechanism that we use and again, we don't do wells. We don't do other these other noble humanitarian pursuits because we want a filter in every home that we serve and the filter itself will last over 20 years. There's research to support it will last well longer. that if cared for properly. And so this single gift of a filter could be a generational gift to a family member that they're going to have essentially forever.
We have filters that are out there that have been in use for 12 years now and are still functioning perfectly. So the filter itself is a long lasting gift. But as I said, we want one of in every single home. So I want you to think of this filter and this filter is a key. This filter unlocks a door that previously has been locked by culture, by religion, even by the unknown.
And it unlocks a door in a way that other tools that are used in ministry don't work very well and let me illustrate that for just a minute. So when we place a filter in every single home it comes with two rules for the recipients. Rule number one, have to promise to clean it like we teach them. Rule number two, they have to promise to let our indigenous missionaries or pastors in their home three times in the first two months of having their filter.
So what this gives us is unfettered access to every single home. And I'll give you an illustration of that. We work in a place called Joss, Nigeria now. And Nigeria is a very challenging place to work. It's very dangerous. About a 95 rate of Muslims in that highly populated country. And we work exclusively in radical Muslim villages in Nigeria. So imagine this. Here I am, the whitest of white guys.
Imagine I show up in Nigeria and I pull up to a radical Muslim village and I knock on the gate and the guy with the rifle comes to the gate and he said, hey, what do you want? And I say, well my name is Pastor Chris and I'm here to tell you about Jesus. Well can tell you what's going to happen in that scenario and nothing, no bit of it will be good. But in the same scenario when there's a water filter in every home I show up, hey I'm Pastor Chris I'm here to check on the water filters.
In 13 years, we have never had anyone deny us access to a village or a home where there's been a water filter in the home. So the filter itself becomes a key that starts a relationship with people that we earn the right to share the gospel and we earn the right to start teaching patterns of discipleship to them. So the filter for us is the mechanism by which we go to work.
And the filter becomes the access point to people's lives because the good stuff happens in the privacy and security of their homes where we meet them with our indigenous missionaries and pastors and we can start to build relationships one -on -one but the filter gains us access into their homes. And I think part of what you're doing is that filtration process is also an object lesson. So let's continue down that path.
Because I want to hear and think, because the thing that we always have to be... So one of the things that I think about is you can have ultimate motive and you can have ulterior motives. So when it comes to providing... providing a service, everybody needs clean water, and we're gonna be inclusive, we can have an ultimate motive of saying, and I wanna share with you the good news of the gospel, which is eternal, of eternal significance. but not in a way where we're doing a bait and switch.
So I kinda wanna think through that because that's more like ulterior motive as opposed to ultimate motive. So I wanna dive into that more but let's start at the top. So you guys use this filtration. process and this gift to these families and you use an object lesson. So you use it as an object lesson for presenting the gospel. So is that accurate, right Christopher? Okay, let's hear it. I want to hear it.
obviously one of the easiest ways to present the gospel for new believers, for people that haven't ever shared their faith before. Even for experienced people, the illustration itself is ridiculously simple and helps illustrate a condition that we all have in our lives. So if you can imagine, I'm holding up a glass of dirty water and this dirty water has things in it that if you or I were to drink this right now, we're going to spend the rest of the day in the bathroom.
water has things in it that could make our family sick if they drink it. This dirty water has things in there that if we continue to drink it could kill us, could kill our families. And so the illustration of the dirty water is very similar to a problem that I've had. and have in my life and that is my sin nature, right? And so we use the dirty water as an illustration for sin. because sin does not always translate very well into some of the remotest parts of the world.
And so this illustration helps us talk about the mistakes we've made in our lives. And then we will go ahead and show how the filter works and we'll start the filter flowing and you'll see chocolate brown water turned crystal clear water in seconds through the filter. And then we will start talking about and use the illustration of what Jesus did on that cross for us. How he restored us to the Father through his actions on the cross. How he redeemed us.
How he renewed us by his actions on the cross. And we'll talk about it's very similar to what we see the filter doing. The filters trapping all that dirt, the things that would make us sick. And it's very similar to how we were separated from the Father by the sin in our lives. so really that's the simplest way that we share the gospel by using the filter. But in this works universally everywhere.
It's an illustration that is very well received regardless of the language, regardless of the culture, regardless of the religious background, the economic status. It's just a wonderful, simple illustration of the gospel.
Now, the other part that you brought up, Brandon, that I'm glad that you did, because this question is not asked very often, and we probably have distributed, I don't know, close to 300 filters in the last 12 to 13 years and we probably served maybe 1 .1, 1 .2 million people in that period of time.
when we go to work in an area, we want to distribute filters to that entire area, regardless of the religious beliefs, regardless of the social class or the economic status of these So everyone gets a filter in these areas that we're going to work in. And when I say everyone, I mean one per household, they get it whether they want to hear about Jesus or not. And people can opt out at any moment and just say, you know what, don't really want to hear that, but I want to hear more about the filter.
And the cool thing about that is this starts a relationship. Even if they don't want to hear what's probably the most important part for us, and that is sharing our faith in Jesus, even if they don't want to hear it, it starts a relationship that we become closer, that maybe someday they do want to hear about that. so it's just this beautiful illustration, I believe, of what we see in Scripture of really not withholding services.
not withholding God's love to people regardless of what they currently believe or their economic or social class. And I think that that's really, that's really critical. Look, we always want to spread the gospel in word and deed. It is both proclamation and demonstration. And, you know, what I, what I hear you saying, you know, this filter, this approach to increasing water, clean water access is, is a tool. It's a key, as you said, and that's, and that's awesome. And that's great.
And it's, and I love the way that you presented that because we do need those object lessons, especially cross -cultural ministry. And so I appreciate that because unfortunately we do see organizations that are distributing resources of one type or another. Maybe it's not a filter, maybe it's something else, but sorry you might hear an airplane.
But in the process of... distributing that resource, they could either imply or coerce people into saying a prayer, you know, and they're on and corner and everybody raise your hand. Okay, yeah, let's count the hands, you know, like that's, you know, this can amount to spiritual abuse at some point, right? And what I hear is you're allowing people that one, opportunity to hear the most important message, and at the same time, not in a way that is coercive.
mean, how do you, especially working with your indigenous missionaries and so forth. How do you guys kind of What is that? does that process look like to protect against those those forms of? Spiritual abuse while at the same time holding both of these very important things very tightly Wow, that's a great question. And I With that, it's a two -fold approach from our end. Again, we work exclusively through locals serving locals.
So for example, when we work in Kenya in some of the biggest slums in the world, the people on our teams are missionaries that already live in that slum area. So it's always neighbors serving neighbors. So the two -fold approach is really Part of it is training and the other part of it is monitoring and evaluation. And the first part with training, know, some of the simplest parts of training against that kind of spiritual abuse is the understanding we don't save anyone.
Right as missionaries as pastors, we don't save anyone.
We just schedule the meeting through telling a story and it's that simple and so as an organization we have made some intentional moves that for example, we distribute filters in group settings and that's the first place where many people will hear the gospel and even though we offer In those group settings we do not count or we do not recognize The number of hands that are raised for people that want to pray to receive Jesus that day We do not recognize any
sort of professions of faith in group settings the only professions of faith that we will ever log is when a missionary is in someone's home and is sitting in their living room and there's one or two people the home and they want to pray to receive Jesus and start to follow Jesus and repent of their sins right there. That's when we will log that. we've taken some intentional steps to try to follow, you know, some of the mandates that we see by previous pioneers of our faith.
For example, Billy Graham wrote the Modesto Manifesto and it talks right there in the that he wrote in Modesto, California, that we're going to represent numbers as accurately as we can. So we have tried to follow some of these practices and we, and again, this starts with training with the missionaries. And we train people, it is not your job to get them to raise their hand.
It is solely your job to be obedient and to share the story that potentially gets to the where they can schedule that interview. So and then the second part, past training and how we prevent against this is we monitor and evaluate our process. So every single filter has a unique barcode on it and at the point of distribution and during follow -up visits the barcode is scanned with a smart device that the missionary holds and then the data immediately comes back us in the United States.
And every single day we monitor and evaluate all the data that comes in from a plethora of countries the day before. And we monitor lessons that are taught. We monitor how much time missionaries are in the home. And we monitor the actual conversations that they are having that they're logging on their phones. And after you built a database of, I don't know, a hundred or a hundred fifty thousand of these conversations.
It's very easy to start to tell by just looking at the data, kind of like an accountant can look at a financial statement and figure out what's going on in a business.
It's very easy to look at the data and see where missionaries are investing well in people and walking them through processes that illustrate the gospel and proper of that filter, which again allows us to monitor what's happening in the field at a very high level because it's all driven by a barcode scan that has to happen in the field. So twofold, training and data analysis. no, that's helpful.
You know, one thing that comes to mind, Chris, is, you know, we have listeners, you know, within a given year, we hit 90 different countries, 90 to 100 different countries that will listen to some episode of Think Global, Do Justice. That's not like every episode. If it were, wow, but it's not. But all that to say, we have a lot of people tuning in that are involved with the ministries in different countries.
Your intervention is seems even in what you said just over the last decade or so, how you started in one country and have been able to deploy in over a dozen since then. If somebody was like, hey, we're doing such and such ministry and we're a Christian organization and these guys have a pretty deployable model for increasing water access, especially in urban areas. how do people get a hold of you?
Like if somebody were to be listening to this and be like, man, I could use some water filters for our ministry, you know, what does that look like? Man, that's a super cool question. And we have a heart for collaboration. Early on in this, and you know, I came out of the business world, so I'm not a ministry guy. Now I am. But early on in this, I recognize that if we want to help more people, we need more friends.
And that's not necessarily more friends to write a check, although that sometimes helps. We need more friends that will pray. We need more friends that will go in the field, but we need friends in collaboration. And we have this great big heart to be able to find people that are already working in a mission field. They already have boots on the ground.
They just need an entry strategy and they need a relational tool to be able to grow relationships and solve a physical need while addressing a spiritual need. So the best way for them to contact us would be just simply through thebucketministry .org, our website, thebucketministry .org. And we've got, as I said before, it's kind of a long vetting process. And I'm not ashamed of that.
I'm just merely saying that we want to make sure we're partnered with the right people that are in it as we are to reach the lost. And we're not in a position to be a bank. We're not in a position to hire people and do all that. And unfortunately, there's a lot of people that are seeking that. But for organizations that are already in a mission field, they've got a water issue and they've got boots on the ground. We want to be part of that.
And then what we will often do is walk them through a process. And if we are universally like minded, then we will suggest that they go into one of our active mission fields and bring a laborer somebody that's going to own that work and train alongside with our team in active participation for two to four weeks and then bring that ministry back home and we start to go to work. I you on mute. Sorry, sorry, I was on mute. Yeah, I love that intentionality, like I said earlier.
That's kind of the word that keeps coming back to me. I think a lot of ministries over the years, and yeah, there are a lot of ministries who are very intentional, but there's also a lot of ministries who just kind of do stuff and do things. And people go and move to a place and... just start doing stuff and hope that something sticks. that's not at all what I'm seeing here, which I love. One last question before we get to the last question we ask everybody.
And I'd like you to just fill in any gaps, fill in any blanks that I know that discipleship is such an important part of what you guys are doing. And it's not what you lead with. right, in most of the situations for obvious reasons in most places. So what does it look like to take beneficiaries from receiving a filter and receiving the good news to then moving toward discipleship within a local church? Well, that is probably the place where we spend most of our time.
spend most of our resources is in those personal relationships through follow -up visitations and eventually into discipleship. So after each filter has been distributed, we do three follow -up visitations minimum in their homes. One at seven to ten days, the next one 14 days after that, and the next one 14 days after that. And those follow -ups are curated in a way that know in those time spans that's going to give us the best return on investment for filter functionality and continued use.
At the same time, as we are sharing the gospel and or discipling people, that really turns into a very nice time frame for continual visits for further relational equity to be built. So in those three visits, if there are believers in a home that do not have a church home currently, we will continue to teach lessons in their home. And we have tools to be able to do this.
So for example, we're partnered with the Jesus Film Project and a variety of other organizations that we use their media as discipleship tools. teaching on baptism and teaching where that profession of faith is this inward and upward proclamation. But baptism is an outward public facing proclamation and we teach them how this is our obedience as a follower of Christ through this.
And we might show them a five minute video in their heart language from one of our partners like the Jesus film project. So each time we're in their home, we're trying to teach patterns of discipleship because our ultimate goal is to have identified before we're in that home or even distributing filters in that area, a like -minded church.
We believe that the local like -minded church is God's plan A. And if there's a local like -minded church in the area, we will start to direct those people to the local church in many of our teams and I'll cite a team in Nairobi, Kenya now working in the Cabara slum about a three square mile project with 90 ,000 homes that we're working in now So when we have new believers that don't have a church home our missionaries will go to their home on Sundays knock on the door and they'll say come with
me I want to introduce you to a pastor and they will take them hand in hand, take them to the church, introduce them to the pastor and they will sit with them through service and really walk them hand in hand to the local church. So our goal ultimately is to be able to identify local like -minded churches and route these new believers to the local church to be continually fed. Now if there's not a local church in the area. Then the missionaries will start Bible studies.
They will identify a home of peace or a person of peace that can start to host Bible studies. And the missionary will come once a week and start to teach lessons in that home where the homeowner or that person of peace may turn into a lay pastor for a home church that will grow from that point on. So the intentionality, we don't think there can be evangelism without discipleship. And we see right there in the Great Commission once again, go therefore and make disciples.
We believe that our job is not done, not even close to being done if we're not discipling. Absolutely, absolutely. I love that.
love like even you went to If there's not a local church there that's like -minded that and that's preaching the true gospel presumably with the like -minded is what you're what you're talking about there and That you find that person of the peace and go there and rather than in their home rather, you know rather than doing it in yours or whatever that power of that person of the peace that we see in scripture. love seeing that modeled with what you guys are doing.
All right, well, you we could go on and on talking about story after story after story, but we are gonna wrap it up and ask the question we do ask all of our guests, and that is for someone that is pursuing God's heart of justice in the nations, what is one thing that you recommend they do? wow. Well, I think the simplest thing that comes to me is don't pre -qualify what you are qualified to do before you get off the couch.
So I see a lot of people like we talked about earlier that are saying, you know, I'm just an ordinary guy. I've got no training for that. I don't know anything about ministry. I'm just a business guy. What can I do? I would say, let's, let's remain open, to understand that, God did solve this problem and in many places he created that person to be the solution.
And, so, the simplest thing we can do, is stop pondering it, get off the couch, and just start getting your hands dirty one way or another. And that could be telling a story. It could be handing out a water filter. It could be swinging a hammer. Let's just get off the couch and get after it. Sounds Well Christopher, thank you so much for being on the show with us today.
It was really good to learn about the bucket ministry, how you guys are blessing people with clean water, as well as making disciples. So thanks so much for being on our show. And I'm grateful, grateful to meet you guys and so excited just to be able to learn a little bit about your heart to be able to share these stories of people working all around the world. And so thank you for what you're doing.
And to our listeners, may Almighty God who created us in his own image grant us grace to fearlessly contend against evil and to make no peace with oppression and that we may reverently use our freedom and employ it in the maintenance of justice in our communities and among the nations. To the glory of God's holy name through Jesus Christ our Lord who lives and reigns with the Father and the Holy Spirit, one God now and forever.
Amen and we will see you guys on the next episode of Think Global, Do Justice.