¶ Nightmare Before Christmas Analysis
Alright , nerds , it's time for another episode of the zone podcast . It's Jet Blackestream with Koki Gatsu , the president of the Fantasy Club Zone , and we decided to talk about the Nightmare Before Christmas in recognition of his third anniversary as of October 13th . So , without further ado , let's go ahead and zone in on it .
Personally very simple story 76 minutes long . Like bro , like you gotta keep in mind that back in the day , like an hour and 15 minutes was a whole movie , but nowadays , by today's standards , is , if it's like less than 90 minutes is like what the hell you're doing is like if you was gonna .
It gonna feel very rushed and very fast paced , like y'all could have fluffed up a little bit more . Is it gonna feel like that ? But you know .
I mean to be honest with you , keep in mind that this story was made for children , even obviously for adults too , but made for family , and it was still the strong belief and it still kind of holds up a little . True , I could say this having four kids uh , kids , attention spans are my new , his health , like for real . So , um , my oldest child is 13 .
She can watch the movie , no problem , but like my next child , he's six , he's not quite seven yet got a couple more months . I promised you for this , like I try .
He wanted so badly to watch this , the new Paw Patrol , one of the new Paw Patrol movies that came out , not the newest one coming out soon , but one that came out previously , and that movie is an hour and a half long , I guarantee you .
He sat there for , I'm gonna say , about 50 minutes and after 50 minutes he's zoned out and I want you to understand by this . Point in the movie is where the action really starts kicking in .
He had so he had lost so much energy in just watching that by the time it got to the action sequence into it's like the main point of it , he had already started disassociating and losing interest . It took him like three times before he finally watched the whole movie .
If you keep in mind onto that one , if you , if I say they lose interest at about 50 minutes . The 75 minute movie for kids doesn't sound too bad , at least by that aspect of it . But there's also one of the things that I appreciate into it as well too .
Like Tim Burton is always really great about in his story telling he doesn't drag it out like I know .
Right before you was talking about how the Nightmare Before Christmas was based on an original story like way old times and stuff , and yeah , it's true , and the thing about it is there's a lot of fluff in that story , a lot of stuff to make it longer , and a lot of that was cut off . It was just like let's just get straight to the point .
That's why I like the most about Tim Burton films is the fact that he'll tell the story , he'll give you the intensity of it and then move on like okay , we're not gonna stay here and linger .
Now hold on now . When I was getting ready for this review , I noticed how some reviewers were saying like , oh well , I wish they kind of fleshed out some of the elements a little bit more , and I'm gonna talk about some of the points that they were trying to make .
But personally I feel like it didn't really need that much of an explanation , especially if you're looking at it in the wrong way , like in a way it's like it's a simple story , to where you can kind of tell that it's going a certain direction and you don't really need much of an explanation .
But some , to some degree , I thought the way they did it was kind of weird , but it was . Excuse was oh , you're gonna have to excuse me , I had some soda and I might be burping you .
Good , I'm coming over from a cough , I'm coming from a cold , so I still have occasional coughs , so you know but you know what ?
let's go ahead again to the plot , so we can kind of explain what we're talking about got you so Halloween town , fancy world populated by monsters , beings associated with the holiday , and we have that banger of um . Honestly , the soundtrack is a banger when I really think about it , but the one song in particular is this is Halloween , this is .
Halloween , halloween , halloween , halloween . Yeah , I was like I was . If Halloween had an official theme song , that would be it . I mean , other than Pumpkin Hill . I mean that's like the if you're a something the hedgehog fan , that's like you know you're bumping that song at least one good time in October . That's why I did too .
I was like , oh shit , october pumpkin hill .
I mean I will say also one of the things about this , too , is the fact that , like Halloween uh , like this is Halloween here's so many metal remixes of it . It's like it comes so popular , comes out every single time . I will also mention too , right before we get into the plot , is the fact that this series is so famous .
Obviously , consider the fact that we're reviewing , like you had already mentioned , for his 30th anniversary .
Um , for this year is the fact that , no matter what , every single year since this movie has been made back in the year when I was born in 1993 and telling my own age here , lord , um , so literally since this movie was made , every single Halloween , you will always find merchandise for this movie . And there's a reason for that , bro . It is listen .
That's the main reason why we're doing this review now , because not too long ago I'm seeing friends of mine on Facebook um having like Jack Skellington type uh , or Uggie Boogie type um swag or what not going on . I'm like you know what man let's go ahead and review this movie , because I can a perfect timing through like 30 years , man .
Like 30 years , literally . For 30 years since this movie was released , sold out theaters when it came out into theaters , um multiple times as a major box office hit not , obviously , compared to now .
No one here , whoa hold on , yeah , I'll give you that . Compared to now , it ain't nothing , but check this out the budget was 24 million , but the box office was 91.5 , so that was almost four times the budget , because that was pretty good and it's a kid's animated and that's the thing that was just for that box office .
This was that was before word of mouth spread and it became so , like popular before they really showed on tv . Because I think also when this movie came out , it was still associated that this is only for kids and so a lot of parents didn't want to watch it , um , or even take it to account , like .
Um , like I also mentioned I know I've mentioned this before in our Harry Potter review as well my mom was , um is a minister , so before she was always majorly against , like witchcraft and darkness and no listen , you are preaching to the choir because my mom was just telling me , um , like a few .
Well , she wasn't telling me . She was on the phone talking about , oh , I don't know very , halloween . Like maybe I'll eat those .
Uh , you know those orange and black on like peanut butter candies , like you'll go for that , but maybe like some of the candies , but don't really celebrate because you know bible thumping um warrior of god type lady , you know well so here's the thing , and something to keep in mind onto it is the fact that , like there's a history for halloween and it's
important to also understand this too there's a reason that halloween is such a big thing and why it is that people love it . So I mean , for those who don't know don't know if you're watching this , I mean you're missing .
The ironic thing is , the ironic part is , at this point halloween is like my literal favorite halloween holiday of all time like every cosplayer is their favorite holiday .
Christmas is a strong second , because I'm like , yeah , christmas is cool and all , but with halloween I'm like man , that's the one holidays where I'm like you get candy , you go to haunted houses , you can cosplay and nobody would judge you exactly but no , like before , like quick thing is .
The reason about halloween is because the winter solstice revolves around halloween time and the thing about it is just the fact that on that specific day , on october 31st , is the one day where supposedly , the spiritual plane and the and the mortal plane is , so the , the barrier between them is the thinnest amongst the entire year .
And so because of that , because of this specific on how it is , but how it's set , with all the planets aligning , I'm gonna probably mention hercules in this one , when the planet's still aligned ever so slightly . Sorry , the face always threw me off , but but yeah .
So the thing about it is that it's the one day where things kind of line up specifically and the spiritual plane , mortal plane is so thin that it's believed that spirits can cross over , and so a lot of hispanic holidays , a lot of hispanic belief is during this time .
This is the time that you could speak with your past ancestors , you could speak with relatives who passed away . It's a chance for you to be close to them . But years before that , ancient european times , it was truly believed that this was the time that the devil would walk the earth at the devil , that the hell , because the plane was so thin .
It was the only time that devil was able to break out of hell for even just this one day before he got sucked back in and he'd be able to walk the earth and torment people with his demons and stuff like that .
And so therefore gave rise to , like the belief of trick or treat , where if you go to someone's house , you say trick or treat , it was a , it was a toll that you had to pay .
Like I dressed up in this outfit , I'm honing my inner demon and when I show up to your house , I'm giving you an option give me a , give me a treat , or I'm gonna play a really bad trick on you .
And so because of that is where all the like , the biggest thing for pranks april fools that the pranks for april fools way back then were absolutely nothing compared to the pranks on halloween . Pranks on halloween could involve people's houses getting burnt down , people getting slaughtered .
It was believed to be like the purge person , like that one night that you was able to get away with
¶ Halloween History and Folklore
everything . Now this is believed based on this is strongly believed , based on a lot of christian belief into that . But obviously we're not doing that . Most honestly , most countries that does it does not have um . It's just because of the fact that that happened before .
It was such a big thing and you know , people were absolutely against christianity , especially after crusades . It's such a big thing . That kind of goes into it um . So there's many religions that are that um heavily into christian belief .
Like you know , judaism , which is the original before it became , before christianity and stuff , and , of course , like also muslim as well , strongly believe that you need to be careful and prayerful during this time so that way you're not being attacked by the devil , his alkalizing , his demons and shit . So keep in mind on to that one .
That's one of the biggest things . One other story and I've been waiting for this review . I've purposely held this story for a long time . So jet black I'm going to make this quick , but this is important jack skellington , or , as he was originally known , as , the trickster jack .
So jack wound up being a guy who , in old times , his story has been told over and over and over again , to the point that people truly believe that this is actually true . So the story of jack um is actually about a man who was a trickster who always played tricks on everybody . He loved halloween . He loved going around playing tricks .
Even if he did get treats , he would still trick people all the way into his adulthood and they were like trick or treating his kids . You're not supposed to do that . And he was like I don't give a fuck , I still want to go do it anyway . Um , he wouldn't really dress up , he wouldn't do anything like that .
But what happened is is that he wound up meeting the devil and the devil tried to find his way to get to him and get his spirit and get his soul . So he wound up making a deal with him and was like I'll make a deal with you . I will give you my soul if I can do this .
But the specific I don't remember exactly what the deal was , but the deal that he made was one that the devil knew that there was no , that . It was like there's no way possible that he's gonna get out of this . I'm gonna get his soul easily . And then jack beat him . He made a deal with the devil and then beat him .
So because he beat him , he was no longer able to . He's not going to hell like he was able to exclude himself from hell , but because he made a deal with the devil . He is because he willingly did so . He's not allowed in heaven either , so he literally walks .
When he died , he literally walks the the middle plane , the void between heaven and hell , because he's not welcome in either place . And so what happens is , during this time also halloween this is the time that he's able to like also break out of his prison per se and roam the earth and constantly form tricks and things .
So when you're doing tricks , you're doing it in the name of jack the trickster , aka jack skellington , pumpkin jack type thing , and only way to protect yourself from him was jack-o-lanterns , by carving his face . By carving like the scary face into it .
You would prevent him from coming to your house if you had a jack-o-lantern out front , and so that's where jack gets his scary face from . Is specifically from that . No , no , this story for a minute .
Yeah that's kind of crazy when you think about it , because it reminds me of the version of jack from grim adventures of billy and mandy , but he has a pumpkin for ahead yep no , his story was very similar into that thing too , whereas , like he was not , he made it .
But instead of making a deal with the devil , he made a deal with grim . He was one of the first people to make a deal with grim and was able to get away with it . So , no matter what , grim couldn't actually kill him , but he still was angry and then chopped off his head anyway .
So he puts on the pumpkin head to make up for the fact that his head is gone . It was still very fun . I love from versus the billy man , but yeah , so keep that in mind . As far as like being that , the history into it , jack from jack skellington is a very Jack Skellington from Nightmare Before Christmas . Being very , very loosely based into .
That is a completely different Jack .
He's known as the Pumpkin King just because he is the ultimate trickster , just like how Jack was , but instead of , like you know , making a deal , the devil and being that endless , mortal , immortal thing that forever walks the void until Halloween day , he's literally just the ultimate scary person into that , but he's also one that's loved by most people .
That's just a little Halloween history . All right , I'm done with that . Now I'm ready to go ahead and move forward .
So Moving on with a plot
¶ Jack Skellington's Journey to Christmas Town
. So with Jack Skellington , he is the Pumpkin King , as Coco guys have said . But the thing is , this year Jack was like you know what , I'm not feeling this whole Pumpkin King thing , I just feel like I'm just bored with all of this .
And then that's when he started with the song Jast Limit , and , and while wandering the woods the next morning he encounters several trees containing doors leading to other holiday themed worlds Like Christmas , easter , thanksgiving , independence , valentine's , st Patch , you know , blah , blah , blah , and some across the door leads to Christmas Town .
And then that's when the song was this , was that , and I was like , bro , I , that was one of the songs I really like .
I was like Anyways , he was so awestruck by this unfamiliar holiday that Jack decided to Return home to Halloween Town , tell his friends and neighbors about his finding , and they were unaware about Christmas and they tried to compare their ideas of Halloween with the town meeting song .
But the thing is they do relate to one Christmas Town character , its ruler , santa Claus , or Sandy Claus , as Jack accidentally calls him . He , he was trying to keep him so in his house to stay Christmas .
Further , to find a way to ratchety explain it queuing Jack's obsession and , and essentially after studying and experimenting and Coming up with nothing , he decided that Christmas should be improved , rather than understood , and announced that Halloween Town should take over Christmas this year . And the main thing was with the Residents of the Halloween Town .
They weren't really on board with that first , when they were like you know , that's not usually our bag , but essentially Jack had a Spookified the whole idea of Christmas , and then they were like , oh okay , I can follow that . Okay , cool , cool . So , um , any notes so far ?
cook actually , yeah , so Going back just a little bit too . So one of the things about is , yes , jack was bored . That was a very interesting thing into it Because Tim Burton actually did do an interview on to it one time before . It was like the reasoning for his story , how he went without with the story because it was a little bit different .
Then I think like the original story or something like that , and shout out to John Solo On YouTube he does like history explains on a lot of different things and he wound up actually getting a chance to talk about the history of Jack and the original Nightmare before Christmas . He didn't really touch base too much into this movie . So ha , this is for us .
But One of the things he did wind up mentioning into is that the previous Jack wasn't so much that he was bored , but he was always curious and looking for new ideas to make something more . Tim Burton wants to really put into the fact of boredom Because that's something that we kind of have dealt with in every , every single day life .
We find something that we're good at and we know we make a career and make a job out of it , and so that we can make money out of doing something that we love , but then sometimes it becomes scary and doing so . Once you make a career out of doing something you love , over time it you can become bored with it because it no longer becomes fun to do .
It becomes a job and it's like it's trying to find that balance is very struggling . So that's kind of what was happening with Jack . After doing this for Millennial years , he's bored with it because he's like it's the same old thing . Even if I come up with something new , it's still based on the same thing . I want something that's different .
I want something that's original . He was struggling with that . So it was a great thing that kind of put that into that , because it was one that would touch base into adult audiences . It's like when you hear the commercials all the time , are you bored with your everyday life ?
Well , come try this cruise or something that is something a little different and that's kind of like how it caught the attention of adults and so his writing was really good into that . He did that on purpose and it you don't think about it . It's a subconscious thing and we deal with it every single day watching TV , you listen to radio and stuff like that .
We even podcast that have commercials Not us . Ha ha , ha .
But I really relate to that and I was gonna dive in that deeper once we got into the third act . But it was like because once we get to the third act , then it was gonna go full circle anyways , and then that's why I'm gonna give my explanation to it . But I do relate to that sort of thing , and you know what ?
I just went to the third act to kind of give my take on . The whole thing with Jack's , because I don't really think that's the case . It's just more like pretty much how you explained it , but I will probably wait till the third act to explain how I will do that .
Yeah , so one other thing also one of the original texts into this as well is the fact that jack's um , when you watch the movie , jack's winds up going into the forest and he sees the trees that lead to every single holiday .
So he sees one for um , you know , for a valentine's day , he sees one for st Patrick's day , he sees one for like , ground halt day and things like that .
So in the movie , in order to keep things moving forward , like I've already mentioned before , like Tim Burton cut out a lot of fluff in the original story , jack actually did visit a bunch of those other worlds and although he found them interesting , he didn't find them anywhere near as interesting as Christmastown .
The reason for that is Because it winds up being something the exact opposite of what he's used . So anything about it is is the fact that , like every other holiday , there's some form of relation to Halloween , whereas , like I think , with like for valentine's day , even though you could fall in love , love is dangerous , you know .
You can fall in love doing different things , you can fall in love with other people and stuff there's always something that kind of related to being scary or something different , you know .
It's funny because , uh , I did the great gasp II review like I want to say uh , half a year ago , like you know ladies you know me , just go back and Listen to that if y'all want to . But my point being is that there's this one song that they insert into it when it's like I can't feel that now . It's like when they talk about love is blindness .
Um , yeah , like I know it's been a minute for you Cookies guys who first seen that film , but uh , if you know that song , it's like I kind of feel that song now because , man , lately I'm not gonna go into it too deep , but let's just say , man , I just understand now .
You know what . That's fine enough . That's definitely fine enough , I got it , but yeah , so it's like every holiday has something that kind of relates to a little bit with Halloween , except Christmas , which is it winds up being the exact opposite .
Whereas everything else kind of has a moment that things can be scary or unpredictable , the only thing for for Christmas that becomes scary , it's like a surprise present and , no matter what , it still always comes out positive . Christmas wraps itself around . Nothing but positivity there's . There's nothing really bad . Obviously . It's like my real life .
You know , sometimes being around certain family members can be different but , that's the whole story , but but the thing about it is it's like this is so vastly different , um , from halloween Vases itself onto , and it was something that threw jack off . It completely threw him by surprise .
It's like this is something that's completely different from what I'm used to . I'm used to seeing things a certain way . I'm used to finding the fear in this , but I can't seem to find it . There isn't anything here . It's completely different . And so that one was kind of cut out from the origin from this movie , which it could have been included .
It could have given a little bit more of why it is he didn't jump into any other holidays . But I mean , the story went fine . Like jack was looking at all the different doors and he just saw this one . He was like I'm just going to open it up and then , you know , he was immediately Caught by the snowflakes that flew through and he was like what ?
And then fell in and then wound up a christmas town . It was just shot by everything . So it still kind of helped on how it moved the story on , but it did kind of like that moment of why is it that he never went to any other holiday ? But yeah , the original story he did is just that this one caught him his attention the most .
That's what I got for this particular segment , other than we cannot leave out our girl sally Down for a call I was supposed to be at two , I was gonna get to that All right , go ahead all right .
So jack assigned the residents many christmas themed jobs , including carols Uh , making the presence , um , you know the making christmas song and building a slave on , pulled by a skeletal reindeer .
And then that's when sally comes in , this feminine creation of local mad scientist , dr Finkelstein , and experiences a vision of a burning christmas tree Detailing their efforts . Uh will end disastrously .
But let me um stop right there , like okay with sally , if memory serves me , correct , uh , while jack was uh doing his song , uh , lamenting over his board , oh well , not bored of all his rut of being pumpkin king , uh , sally , she kind of skirted off um on our own , just out of nowhere .
And the thing about it with the relationship between sally and dr Finkelstein is that , um , dr Finkelstein , I think he wanted that female companion that would just be loyal to him and you know , kind of be his little how can I put this ? Uh like a little assistant , what now ? You know kind of like uh , how Dr Frankenstein has ego or something like that .
But this time he's like a more feminine model . And Even though sally wanted to venture out beyond those walls , but dr Finkelstein was like no , no , you need to stay here with me . But eventually she just wandered off anyways .
And um , the wandering off part I want to talk about a little bit more in at three because , honestly , most some of the stuff that I got Talked about it's gonna make sense by act three . But um , that's when eventually she stung across , jack had a little crush on him and and eventually they met and try to .
She tried to pitch in because that's the funny thing with Um trying to read the synopsis it kind of like shortens it to a point where , hold on , there's a little bit of context that I got throw in . But anyways , now it got to a point where it seems like she had a vision . But I don't . I didn't think it was a really a vision .
I thought it was more like the net , the law or nature of these different worlds , where things in Christmas town can exist in halloween town and things in halloween town will probably work Vice versa . So it's where it can't really work in christmas town .
But they kind of made it sound like a vision and which wasn't really explored upon , and that was what the main thing was . Um , where I was , some of the reviewers were saying that oh , I kind of wish they kind of um Took more time to explain how salad was able to have visions and whatnot .
Or I thought of it more like what if it was just one of those things where Having a christmas tree in halloween town just disturbed a natural order of things ? So that's why salad was thinking like , oh shit , um , there's probably something too , this shit , that y'all did not take into consideration .
That you know , I'm trying to look , look , I'm gonna put in this aspect . I was trying to wait , but I'm just going to put this in . This is my main point . If I took it , I didn't take it as no visionary nonsense and nothing like that . I have seen some people kind of like do a point into that .
What I see as is the mother fuckers had no common sense . She had common sense . It was literally that point . Yeah , I don't think you thought this all the way through . And this is . She literally told him that she literally kept selling jack . I don't , I don't think you quite understand yet . You're not . You're not thinking about this all the way through .
Keep in mind onto this throughout the whole movie . The only other females that we wind up seeing are like witches per se , even with a lot of shock and barrel , which we'll get to , you know , a little bit later . Um , it's still kind of a trail of witch .
You know , shock is still a witch per se and the witch portrayal is always considered just evil and just maniacal . It doesn't , it just goes on a whim with this type thing . Sally is the only person in halloween town that actually thought shit through . She's the only person that had common sense
¶ Importance of Sally in Tim Burton's Movie
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I feel like that's fair , because there has to be that one , the straight man in all of this , like the one person that's making the most sense , to where I'm like oh , I don't know , you guys like I , you know , because if everybody was on board with it then that would just make it even more disastrous and it also wouldn't give us the context where it's like
what could go wrong . For , in other words , it , um , sally was like a counterbalance where , okay , um , this sounds good , bud , is there a catch to all of this ? Like there's no way that this is gonna be one of those movies to where everything just gonna go smoothly and where's the conflict in that ?
So I feel like Sally was our main person of exposition as far as what could go wrong with all of this and it's kind of Murphy's law in a way is like what you know , like anything that can go wrong will go wrong .
Some like that , but in this case it was like yeah , having Christmas stuff in Halloween time just disturb the natural order of things and that's when things were going wrong . But not necessarily that . But now I'm wanting to talk about the trio now . So Jack dismissed her warning , sally's warning , and assigns her to making him a Santa Claus suit .
And he also passed the trio lock , shock and barrel with abducting Santa and bringing him to Halloween Town and queuing , kidnapped , the Sandy Claus song . Jack tells Santa that he will be handling Christmas and his place this year and or the trio to keep Santa safe .
However , against his witches , the trio sent them to Jack's rival , oogie Boogie , who is the boogie man in Halloween Town With his passion of gambling , plotting to play a game with Santa's life .
It was almost like Saw , but kids version of Saw , with the Oogie Boogie song , but after failing to stop , Jack from carrying out his plan with Sally's song on his cute Sally attempt to rescue Santa and Jack , but it's also captured as a result . So eventually , jack now has a mission where he has to save both Sally and . Santa Claus , that is act two .
Go get through anything you want to add on .
Okay , well , I've already kind of mentioned in about the whole Sally thing , but something else , but I know you said you want to talk about it a little bit later , so I'm only going to mention this because I don't know what you're going to mention .
As far as about her running away , one of the biggest things into it , yes , what you had said earlier is 100% accurate . Dr Ficklestein did create Sally to be his forever companion . Obviously , you know he's in a wheelchair in order to scratch his head . He opens up his skull and scratches his brain .
He's always been trying to have a better body and that was one of the things that he specifically kept mentioning about Sally . It was like you're just a body , you're just a body .
It was obvious that there was something supposed to be more there that they never really dove into , and I don't know how much more of that was in the original story that was written .
But even Tim Burton still kept some of those moments into that , with some of the dialogue that he would say there was more to Sally that was needed into that and there's a reason why she kept running away . She never wanted to be what it is that Dr Ficklestein wanted her to be , and for there's a very big reason for that .
See , that's the thing I was going to mention . To wear Some of the reviewers , I do agree with them to wear Okay , y'all could have fleshed out Sally's character a little bit more to wear . It gave her a little bit more substance to her , to her At least , feeling some of the blanks with her because it kind of feel like she was going to be useful .
But it's like something they didn't lay it out .
We'll keep in mind on this one . That would have taken the story in a very different direction . So , in this aspect , the only thing that Sally wants is that she has the common sense . She's able to bring sense back into Jack . That is where her role is specifically supposed to be in this movie , nothing more than that .
In the original context , she actually does have more . There's more to it than that . She has more of a consciousness . There's a reason that she's more attracted to Jack than meets the eye , and this one just like oh , he seems so awesome . He seems like he's like top dog . It's kind of how it's portrayed in the movie , but there was actually more than that .
There's so much more of why this , that she's so infatuated with Jack , than based on the original text , and so the thing about it is that it is fleshed out a little bit more One of the positive things . If you want for people who actually wouldn't want to , yeah , hold on .
Let me just mention this really quick and I'm going to give it right back to you .
If you want more Sally , to find out more about what's going on now , disney did release a couple years back , long live the pumpkin queen , where Sally is a comic , it's a little book , a comic book specifically on Sally and more about her and more about what's going on , and it was written by Tim Burton .
He was able to flesh her out more and give more of her side of the story and more about what's really going on with her . So if you actually want to know more about Sally and see what could have been and why this actually probably could have been a whole series , if we wind up getting more into Sally's life , it wouldn't just be a movie .
This would be a series as far as about stuff that would be happening . To read that book , that would be something to give you some more context about what's going on with Sally and her life . And what were you trying to say , jeff ?
I was just going to do a quick reference to where you know what , with that logic , to where Sally brings sense to Jack it kind of reminds me of another Tim Burton movie that I did do , a review , on Dark Shadows to where , with the main character , barnabas , and there was the girl Vicky , and it was like there was like for some reason you knew that Vicky
had this attraction to Barnabas and finds it verse up , but that was mainly because Vicky was the reincarnation of his long lost lover , joe Set . You know , if you watch the movie you will know .
But essentially it was only like they had this connection to where Barnabas he was like a fish out of water being unleashed from his coffin after like almost 200 years and he's like trying to make sense of it all .
And there was Vicky , to where I'm like you know , yeah , I kind of feel you because you know I was kind of played with the ghost of my ancestors pointing me to the direction towards you and I'm like you know , in a way it kind of doesn't make sense . But you know what , fuck it , let's just something , just don't have to .
You know that kind of romantic shit . To where it's like something just don't have to make sense . Just got to feel it just kind of , I don't know , but in a way it's kind of funny , because those are both Tim Burton movies and it always seems like there is this one girl that the main character has is hanging around and it's like , wow , you know what ?
You make a lot of sense .
¶ Analyzing Tim Burton's Storytelling Themes
I mean , think about this aspect here to Tim Burton is the very key . Well , you look at all his stories is a very king of . She holds me down but my head is flying all around left and right .
Everywhere else she brings me back to the ground to make sure that I did on , tim Burton did on Pirate of the Caribbean Right .
Same . Thing .
Yep , yeah , because I was thinking fucking a little bit swan yeah we'll turn .
Yeah , the same thing every single time . Where my heads are in the clouds , my woman always brings me back down to make sure I'm stable . She anchors me down . He is the king of doing that , all of his stories .
Actually , like a lot of people have mentioned that , when doing any type of Tim Burton , talking about any type of Tim Burton story , that's like the main thing you have to always bring up is the fact that he does that . He always . The woman's role is never just my new . It is never a oh , she's just a damsel in distress or something like that .
No , she's always has that mental role of like I told you that this was not going to work out . You wanted to keep your head in the clouds , but I'm the one anchoring down . I have to break you out before you go to the stratosphere and put your burn up in the sun .
There's a lot of temper moves I want to review now .
And no matter which one you think about , it is always the same . It's all I know . But that's why I was saying that's going to be the recurring theme .
I'm like once again we see this .
Always , always . And it's one of the best things about some of his stories is the fact that there's always a character that will anchor things down , and Sally serves that role purposely , and that's one of the things why he didn't flesh out so much in the movie is just specifically to give her that Not shocking . Barrels are amazing characters .
They're always extremely hilarious . They are the wild kids that everyone is , the kids that you don't want to have . But you watch other people have type of thing Like they are the white version of baby's kids , they're the Halloween version .
No , I was about to say that . Fuck , I was like they're the baby kids of Halloween .
I was going .
I was waiting for my mom .
I was like bro , like I was like they like baby's kids for real For real , like they are , and that's the thing about this Like . So I know I'm supposed to do this , but this seems like so much more fun and I'm going to do it .
That's them , that's just what they are , and Jack knows this is one of the things about it to where I will say it's probably the only platform that I will mention into that and I'm going to do this . I already told you I was going to make this little reference into this . So in kingdom hearts , you know we want .
One of the best parts about kingdom hearts to me is that we get a story with you know . We get a story with Halloween town where we get to see Jack Skeleton playing along with Sora and the first game . It doesn't tune into the movie story at all .
That's actually for the second game , but we still get a brief moment of understanding that Jack knows that a lot of shock and barrel do everything that would be so . It's one of those things is like you know for a fact that he's looking at , that .
They're looking for these minions per se and you still entrusted them with the most important person and thought that , oh , they're not going to give it to people because I told them not to Like he did . Specifically , he says and do not get a book involved . Yes , sir , cross our hearts and hope to die for Halloween , for Halloween town .
That's a wonderful thing . You're not . There's no like anything is going to anchor me down to that . If I'm saying that , that means I'm hoping that that you cut my heart out and I die , because I'm going to come back and be like that was awesome type thing and Jack just did not pay that much attention to it , which is , to me , is kind of a flaw .
Like you , should know this . I want to believe you .
I mean I want to read with you . But I don't want to say he didn't pay attention . I want to say Jack was a little too trusting in this situation because he knows that the trio is basically working for the highest bidder at any given moment .
Like , for instance , if oogie boogie give them a better offer than what Jack is giving them , then they're going to go with oogie boogie , but if Jack's giving them the better offer , they're going to work with Jack .
So in other words , we know that these kids are like chaotic neutral If we're going to use D and D term , they're like chaotic neutral to where it is like they work for the highest bidder .
Okay , so I kind of figured as he was a little too trusting to people who is like only looking out for a new , more uno , in a sense of like and as well , they weren't really loyal to either . They were just looking out for themselves , and whoever gave them a better deal , that's what they rolled with .
True . So you probably say he was too much in his high of trying to be a coach .
He was so happy about the whole Christmas thing . He didn't think everything through , so you're right , he didn't pay attention to the aspect , but at the same time he knew what the trio was about . But he was too trusting in that situation .
Because then afterwards , like you know , he has that moment he's like oh , they went to oogie , boogie and stuff . Yeah , yeah , all right . Yeah , that's all I got for that particular part .
All right , so act three , and that's where we get into the real meat and potatoes of this whole thing . Now that departs to deliver presents to the real world , they're frightened by the populace , who contact the authorities and are starting to lock down their homes and residents for protection .
And when word spreads about Jack's actions , he was shot down by military forces and crashes into a cemetery . Now , before I go any further , I like to say I like how , when he was delivering all the presents and shit , um , one , this one kid , um , got this present and the parents was like , hey , what'd you get ?
And then he pulled out this um this head out and there was this screaming and shit . I was like , okay , that was funny , that's funny . I'll go get y'all .
That's the question was hilarious , bro . What's the end of your youth for Christmas ?
But continue onward . So while the residents of Halloween time believed him to be dead , jack is actually survived and then he ben owns um this disaster he has caused um Q the poor Jack song , and he finds that you know , after all , that he had this epiphany , that you know . Despite this not going as well as I hope , I enjoyed myself .
Um , using this new methods to scare people , reunite his love for Halloween , realizing that he got um , take action to fix the mess that he caused . So Jack returns home to Halloween town , infiltrates player , rescue Santa and salad , before confronting Uggie Uh .
He defeats him by unraveling a thread holding his claw form together , causing the books inside him to spill out and reduce him to nothing in that little pool of cauldron , whatever that was . Uh .
Jack apologized for his actions to Santa , despite being furious with Jack for the chaos he caused and not listening to Sally assuring him that he can still save Christmas . So even Santa was like bro , you should have just listened to Sally . So Santa replaced the Jack's presence with genuine ones . All the uh snow , uh .
All the Halloween towns celebrate Jack's survival and return um , cue the final and reprise song . Uh . Santa then shows Jack that there are no hard feelings between them by bringing snowfall to the town , fulfilling Jack's original dream of bringing the Christmas spirit to his domain , and caused the residents to realize the true meaning of Christmas .
After that , jack and Sally , they declared their love for each other . They share a kiss in the movie .
Now let's get into what I really want to talk about , first of all , with what Coke Gus was saying at one to where people were thinking , oh so he was sad that or he was just in this rut about being pumpkin king , and by the third ad he just like you know what , I'm kind of over it . So I'm going to go back to being pumpkin king and do things right .
But that's just the thing , though . Like sometimes you got to try new things in order to , you know , get a like a refresh on things , like , say , for instance , me to wear . Last year I went to Savannah , georgia with some friends of mine and honestly , I felt so refreshed on spending five days there just , um , checking out the sights and shit .
I felt refreshed when I got back to work I was going with some new ideas for some
¶ The Importance of Trying Something Different
shit . I just feel you know what , yeah , like , trying out something different actually helps sometimes .
So that's feel like that's the whole point of the film to where sometimes it's okay to try something different to you know , get out of the usual shit and then , even if you , even if it's not for you , at least you can say that you had a fun experience doing so and , who knows , you can just go on and tell stories about your experiences and it's all good ,
like sometimes , like we got us to remember that sometimes it's okay to fail . It just giving up and not trying isn't as acceptable . Because it's one thing If you fail , because at least you can say , okay , I gave it my best shot and it didn't work out .
But to say that , oh well , you know , I just didn't even bother trying , or , uh , I could have gotten somewhere with it , but somewhere along the lines I'm just not feeling it . Um , I'm like I don't know if I can give you points for that , but I can give you points for it .
You said , yeah , honestly , I really did give it my best shot and it just did not work out . Okay , you did give me a hundred , so I can give you that .
That's like with me , where I am engaged in so many different skills to where I'm into 3D printing , I'm into 3D modeling , I'm trying to get into cybersecurity and all the other stuff to work , a point being to where , like it kind of , it's kind of a lot , but , to be honest , at least it doesn't really get boring because I can always like mix up or change
up on my flow to where , okay , I might do this one day , this another day , I might have a 3D print commission on this time or some sort of deadline , and I'm like , okay , I can set time to do this , so putting a balance to it . To where I'm like okay , where I'm kind of well rounded for myself , so it , it , it definitely won't get still for me .
So that's why I can kind of understand where Jack is coming from , where sometimes you got to try something , even if you are not as good at first . I'm like it's good to at least step out of comfort zone . I don't even know them , because what's up ?
If I can mention this . So would you say it's a good thing to be a jack of all traits , okay ? Okay , I got to be fair , that was good .
But yeah , I mean I think I'm going to be a good guy . To be fair , that was good . But yeah , I mean between coca gato and I we're renaissance men , like we're going to be into different shit . So it's like in reality .
That's why I kind of like doing the podcast , because you know I can't always regale people of my experiences with this , that and the third . And I'm , in hindsight , thinking you know what ? I'm not as boring as I thought I was , because I never really thought about it until I actually put into words . I'm like you know what ? Why am I tripping ?
I'm like my life not as boring as I thought it was . I mean it may not be as good as it could be , but I can't really complain . I just got to put in work . This is true .
I mean , a lot of times we get weighed down from somebody else's and somebody else's doing it . I don't want to , because they're already doing it , okay , but they're not . They're not going to bring the same things to the table that you're going to do that .
They're not going to do what ?
you like type of thing and this , there's somebody out there that might like what you like . You never know until you try it , until you try to put it out . That's kind of the thing into it Jack wanted to see .
I will say something I did want to mention as far as into part three and I'm I know it's not quite my term I just really wanted to mention this aspect Jack also felt something that he had never felt before . The first time that he did were doing Halloween is hatred . Keep in mind onto this .
One of these that Jack also mentioned and it was more so mentioned in , like I think it was the book , the original book , Um , and but it was still kind of mentioned a little bit into the movie is the fact that he was very confused because he felt that people hated him and it was like it's so different because with Halloween , people were expecting those jump
scares , they were expecting those moments and they could laugh at it . They could laugh at them . It was enjoyable to have those moments of momentary fear . But him doing it for Christmas was very different . They shot him down out the sky . There was something that he never experienced before . He was like this is very different . He's like they hate me .
He's like but they don't normally hate me . I will bring them fear and they would . They were run scared and but they were still laugh at it , like it was still always something enjoyable , but they don't like it this time and it was confusing . He didn't understand .
Listen , I like how you brought that up because it got to a point where I realized something , something that I was thinking about not too long ago to wear sometimes , like in , like in this racket , to wear .
You know , with podcasts , with whatever you're doing , you might get haters , you're going to have critics and , like I said before , if you are trying to avoid criticism , say nothing , do nothing and be nothing , not to be that absolute about it , but essentially that's like saying , if you trying to avoid criticism , you might as well avoid people in general People
going to have their opinions about you , negative or positive , regardless . So it's like you could be a perfectly good person , like a genuinely good person . You will have a hater , you will always have haters because I'm like born .
There is a hater for you , like no , no matter what that , like I know you said , you try not to make an absolute , but in all honesty , it kind of is like , because you were born , somebody hates , like it doesn't matter . That's just the way the world works . There's just nothing for you . There's nothing that we could do about it .
That's why , like in every single religion , there is a pot , there's a good and there's evil . There's a positive , there's a negative , like evil , buddhism . There's there's yin and there's yang . To every positive , there has to be some type of negative in order to balance out . There's just there's no positive that has no negative whatsoever .
It does not exist at all . Don't ever think that , oh okay , I'm the person that everybody likes . There is somebody out there that's hate . No , that's just what it is . That's just what it is . The point of the matter is what are you going to do about it ? Are you going to let them dictate you or you just going to move on and keep doing what you do ?
Listen , I shared stories about this before , but there were many times where there were just people that just didn't like me for no reason at all , even though I didn't talk to them . I didn't wrong them in any way that I can even remember , if anything . Sometimes I get hated just for being to do that .
Okay , how sometimes a dude will like a girl but coincidentally the girl is kind of feeling me , even though I kind of don't care for the girl Not in a rude way , but more like I'm just not . The answer to Avery . If you're trying to get with that , I'm not stopping you , but I can't help it . She got crushed on me .
So if you're hating on me for that , I'm like . I mean I'm sorry but I'm not . I'm literally not even doing anything . So either take notes or get over it .
I don't know what to tell you .
But yeah , man , like you're going to have people hating on you for the dumbest thing you know what ? Listen , just listen , just keep doing what you're doing . If you believe in what you're doing , just keep doing what you're doing , because you're going to get critics , no matter what , like we could be law today , youtube channel eventually .
Anyways , I'm expecting to hate . I am hardcore , expecting the hate , but you know what I want ? To push through it because , fuck it , I have a dream to fulfill . I am not going to let these random people on the internet trying to throw me off my focus . I'm like what do I look like to where ?
I'm like , okay , I'm spending my whole day depressed because this one person on my comment section said some shit that really got me down . Like I don't got time for . I'm too old for this shit now .
It's true . I mean realistically the only person that you left .
He satisfies Pretty much , yeah like you , you can't satisfy everybody . Like , believe me , like I was naive enough to believe that 10 years ago , but nowadays I'm like bro . At this point I need to be More concerned about myself , in other words , like not be too selfish , but I am my number one priority .
You're your number one fan of your own number one credit .
Pretty much . So I'm like I gotta look out for me . Like as long as I'm living my own life , I gotta look out for me . At best it's like my friends and family have to come second . As much love as I got for them , they have to come second because my life comes first .
That only thing about it is that be like Jack and try something new , but don't be like Jack and fuck up somebody else's life Now , like , don't , don't do it . Your success does not have to mean to downfall of somebody else .
Jack , almost trying to do that , that's kind of point of what I'm trying to do with the Delta murder entertainment , to where it's like I got kept saying if I really was out for only myself , I would have done all of this by myself .
But no , I wanted to do it to where not only can I make things happen for myself , but also to make things a Little more bearable for my friends and family you know like they don't really have to sweat that hard , but not like , oh , hand out or anything , not like , oh well , you know , just have it , just because I'm like , if anything is more like , if
Anything goes wrong , at least I'm able to help . But Trying to stay on topic , there was another thing I wanted to mention how Dr Finkelstein got this new Assistant after Sally wonder off , and that was the funny thing too .
How you don't really see In case my memories hazy you don't really get to see dr Finkelstein react to Sally just up and leaving , but it's not like he can go far with that wheelchair , so it's like it almost feels like he kind of Um we would around like Sally , is she here ? I was like , oh shit , she love .
well , gotta make a new bitch then that's what it kind of felt like but that's why , once again , maybe if you gave us a little bit more , I Probably would have been okay . This makes a lot more sense .
But it kind of felt a little too fast-paced , like oh , but you are , you already mentioned it's where it's like , yeah , if you add a little too much , then it was just kind of Fuck things up . So I mean , I'm not mad about it , but I'm just saying that's what some of the other reviewers been saying as far as when I was getting prepared for .
But I'm like you know what man ? He got a new bitch , so I'm not complaining . Sally's with Jack . Dr Finkelstein got a new assistant . The trio is still the trio One more day one like I .
¶ The Importance of Persistence and Individuality
Mean the thing about it was a simple story . This was the story that was like oh , everybody had their own growth , everybody had their own thing . This was made to be a very simple kid's tale . We had one story , we had one plot and we just moved along with it and that was about it . Like the B story line was just hey , what's happening with Santa ?
That was about it . B story line focused about Santa , not Sally . That's just what it was . Sally was just something to help . King kept things moving in a somewhat positive direction , because that was the main reason that Shit went positive . If she was not there , everything would have went to hell . What the shit ? That's just realistic , we know this .
But no , I mean like , oh yeah , that's pretty much the main thing into the story is that this was made to be a very simple tale . Tim Burton specifically took his most straightforward part of the story and just did that . He didn't want , he didn't go too much into an expansion into it . But you can find the original Nightmare Before Christmas book .
You can find in a lot of different Stores , bookstores . You can find online , of course , and , like I also said , you want more of what how Tim Burton wanted to do with Sally . You can look . Know the pumpkin Queen . Long live the pumpkin Queen . You're more than welcome to check out that book . I think you can find it at Walmart .
If you decide to like you , just go to Walmart , calm Someone Mars might have it in store , someone just have a ship to you and it doesn't cost much . It's like less than 20 bucks . So Just enjoy it , like you know , if you want to get a chance to get more into that too .
But this was made to be a very simple , good , wholesome story and biggest thing about it is don't give up . Keep Doing what you want to do , just like we do what we do , and that's just kind of how it flows , you know . And so it's like Enjoy life , have fun , live to be you , like you said like . Just like .
Like you say , like you , sometimes other people may have to come second for some decisions . It's the fact that you got to push it forward and obviously it becomes different , you know , when you have a family . Obviously you know , push it forward . It's not gonna be right .
He was gonna be for me , but then , yeah , like kind of have to really depends on the situation .
Like I mean , if you were in my situation where I'm like you know , single child was like , yeah , I got by default , I had I got to come first . But if you're a family man , I'm like , okay , it's a little different for you .
But it still doesn't change the fact . That's like you have to keep pushing forward . Like you said , jet black and just rearing again . If you didn't want anyone hating on you , say nothing , do nothing , be nothing . That's it because you exist . You have a hater man . Thing is , don't let that stop you .
Just keep pushing forward , like for them , for the longest point . You still need to listen . It's still need to listen . For a momentary there , jack did think that was being a hater . He really he listened , no , after you know what ?
What why were we talking about criticism ? There was another thing like it was almost like a conflicting thing , that just booked me and I'm sorry , ladies , gentlemen , like we're trying to wrap this up because we're honestly done with the review , I'm ready to I'll give it a rating already .
But I just want to add this in the Part where people are like , oh , you shouldn't care what anyone else thinks , but at the same time People will make it sound like , oh , you got to do this , that in the third , for the sick of your image , and I'm saying you're thinking , okay , first of all , like how can I put this ?
Like , even though some people can mean well , but that's just a thing , they're not you and you're not them , so they can't Really project their own Point of view onto you to where it might not even fit your frame per se .
So in a way , it's almost like some people kind of Want to impose their mindset onto you because that's their worldview , that like they're kind of closed-minded . That's an honor . It's different between people .
¶ Trust and Consideration in Advice Giving
Rays , as you will hear , all the time is taken with a grain of salt .
Yes , but more likely , like I want to say there's just middle ground to where I'm like Don't take too much stock and what everyone tells you . Now I can believe that more because there are some people where I'm like , okay , this is someone that I trust to give solid advice or whatnot , so I'm not gonna just invalidate their Advice or their opinion or whatnot .
Like , for instance , you cookie , I see what I'm like . I Feel like you give fairly good advice of whatnot .
So I'm just not gonna be like , okay , I don't care what cookie guys I think I'm like , no , it's never like that , um , but if it's like Just anybody , like really depending , and I'm like , well , I don't know , like I don't think you know me well enough to give me solid advice .
So I , like you said , cook , yes , we just take it with a grain of salt , is like you can take some stock into it , but , um , don't read into it too much .
So , in other words , there's like some middle ground to it , to where , if there's people that means well , like they really do have your best intentions in mind , like , by all means , like he , what they're saying , but there's just some time .
You don't have some people that's gonna sell a bunch of shit to you , to where I'm like , hey , man , you can just go off over that shit . Um , they don't think they know . You will know to where they can like really stick that on you . I don't know . So I Give it .
Now , put in this aspect for me , because obviously we do things a little bit different For my mindset . I take all advice . I do . I'll take all criticism . Now , thinking about it , is this because I say take it by grain of salt , is in the fact , like , I will take your criticism , but that does not mean I'm gonna change for your criticism .
It's one of the things about right . I listen to all criticism because here's the thing if somebody's criticizing something , that's obviously something that you're doing that they don't like .
But the thing about it is why don't they like , Like you had mentioned before , if somebody is upset because this particular person likes me but I don't really , I'm not like infatuated with them , like they're infatuated with me , but then you're frustrated , like how dare you treat that person like that ?
I'm not treating that person like anything Negative whatsoever , treating them just like a normal , regular person . You're upset that I'm not giving them the same energy that they're giving me . That's not the energy that I choose to give to them . That's not for me . That person is not for me , not in that aspect , and that's just what it is .
So I hear your criticism , I hear what you're saying . I completely understand that you are frustrated about this , but I'm not going to change what I'm doing to satisfy you or to satisfy that person , because there is no Benefit for everyone into the aspect what you want me to do .
Okay , fine , I'm just gonna go ahead and go out with that person , even I don't really like them . No , because then I will mentally fuck up that person , because that person is truly infatuated with me , but I don't reciprocate those same feelings in the relationship . It becomes obvious and that person feels less important . I'm not gonna do that .
I'm not a manipulator . I'm not gonna not gonna put that burden on to them . That's not gonna happen , type of thing . So I'm not going to change . I'm not going to change because there's not a benefit . It doesn't benefit me , it doesn't benefit that person . That definitely doesn't benefit you . But I have heard your advice .
I listen to what it is that you said . I've listened to your criticism , but I'm choosing not to take it because of this reason . Everything you have a point into it , everybody's gonna give you advice , even us . We're talking about this in the podcast . You can listen to what we're saying . It's up to you if you decide to take that or run with it .
Or I heard you and I'm gonna just leave it down that the thing , or you can choose not to listen . That's entirely up to you too . Like I said , like I'm very different , I listen to all criticism , but that's just not for everyone .
And I'm sorry , like adding on to it , but that's just my main thing . Another thing that Inspired me to do the podcast , where a bunch of people want to hear what I gotta say about certain shit , and I'm like , okay , here it is this I feel about this .
And the third so it's up to you to choose to listen to my advice or whatnot , and if you like my advice , cool . If you don't , then that's okay too . Like I'm not perfect , I don't have the answers for everything , but I just give my opinion when I have them . So that's just .
My thing is like I I'm not gonna have all the I'm not gonna have the right answers all the time , but I I can at least try to have an answer if I , depending on the situation . You know , if I have an answer for you , I have an answer for you . If I don't have an answer for you , then I'm like I'm sorry , I'm I don't know what to do .
But yeah , we want to the rating .
Yeah , let's go ahead and want to write it .
It's like every time you're not getting a podcast , we have some type of life advice .
I mean , at this point we kind of have to like , you know , gotta give you like some sort of positive takeaway and all this , you know , I mean that's another thing about the podcast , like when you really review these things , it's like you learn things and there's like like a wealth of Development , you know , like something that you can take away from some of
these content and that's what we're kind of giving it to y'all . It's where the main theme of Nightmare Before Christmas not just the love of Christmas , but sometimes it's okay to try new things . You don't have to be a master at it , but it's okay to um , you know , it's for our comfort zone sometimes . And that's pretty much the point .
You know , try new things sometimes .
Hey , that's it . You know , something we got to talk about . Next time , though , it's gonna be very funny . I Think you get one going from right here . Friday the 13th all types , superstitions . Oh , we can't review the whole we can't review the whole series , though you can't review those . That's a lot of movies .
Oh my god , there's , there's a lot of Jason movie .
Oh , yeah , that's why I was thinking like I would have done it this year , but oh , man .
Hey , it's just the fact that this is another year that Friday 13 takes place in hot takes place in October , near the winter focus , near Halloween . I'm just saying it's pretty , pretty awesome onto the aspect , but Are you superstitious people out there ? Don't stop on a crack and break your mom's back . Don't walk underneath a ladder .
You know Black cat cross your path . Good luck , I Try everything . I don't really care . I step on crack .
Don't crack a mirror .
Hey , don't forget those , solve your shoulder . Look , I'm not even a lot to you , though I'm not really superstitious person , but for that it's this real thing for me . Like you mentioned about Grimavich's ability , mandy early , and I'm just gonna mention this the main episode that has fucked me over to this day . To this day I am 30 years old .
It has been like God , I'm gonna say like 25 or 26 , about 26 years Since I've seen this episode and to this day it still fucks me over .
When Billy spilled the salt and accidentally threw the pepper over his shoulder and so the little chaos worm , the bad luck worm snail , fall into his ear and attached to his brain and just kept giving him all types of bad luck and I was like I want you to understand that hit me hard in two things .
One of my biggest fears is I have a major fear of parasites . I do just a big thing for me , have a major fear of it . So the imagine of anything crawling in my ear to my brain already freaked me the fuck out .
Then you're also telling me there's gonna make my life hell Because of the fact that something crawled into my ear and attached itself to my brain . It should fuck me up to this day , no matter what , I will throw salt on my shoulder , just always .
I don't even throw it just a little bit , I throw it over both , like I will put salt between my hands , rubbing like it's lotion and it's slap my shoulders like slap it over . This is alright , be good , I take no fucking chances .
I got you man . All right . Ladies and gentlemen , for real this time . Let's get the fuck out of here .
¶ Review of "The Nightmare Before Christmas"
Final rating for a nightmare before Christmas .
I'm calling 4.5 out of 10 and a 4.5 out of 5 , not out of 10 . This is it will not drop any lower than me . I love the movie , watch it every single year , watch it twice a year in my household , just saying I .
Would have said solid for like only because you know there was some parts where to a degree yeah , not as well I kind of agree with the reviewers , would agree to where I'm like in hindsight If it was like a little longer , if they had more scenes where like , yeah , it would kind of would Kind of bridge some things together , like kind of have a little bit
more explanation to how these things work . Like , oh , this , I Sally had visions why she was sure that things was gonna work out , at least that one scenes where dr Finkelstein like kind of acknowledged that Sally was missing , you know , just a few more scenes to kind of bridge some things together . Then I'm like , okay , then I would shot that .
I was straight up to a five , like I would have said a generous five , but I was . I want to say I saw it four .
Okay , no , no , that's fair . Specifically Like , like we talked about , that's going to be like this show was . This movie was made very specifically . It was made to be specifically just this plot point , this story moving forward . We had some characters . We didn't have a lot of development , but it was not . It wasn't pushed for this particular story .
If we did have the full story , if we did have more of those developments of the characters , like I said , this would not have been a movie , this would have been a series . So keep into the fact of how things are written now and how stories are now . Yes , I can definitely see into that aspect . It still holds up pretty well .
But considering the fact that now we have that fan base of and you know , most kids nowadays are able to sit through more Like I have two kids in my neighborhood , like near us , like neighbors to us they have sat through both across the spider verse , into the spider verse and I'm sitting here like I can't even get my kids to sit through a Paw Patrol movie
you got y'all to send through spider verse . So in that little aspect here , I'm just saying like two out of three can have more of an attention span to stuff . So yes , nowadays we definitely would be able to appreciate a more of a story written into that , a more of those character developments . So yeah , I can definitely see it in that aspect .
Again , I'm gonna encourage you guys go find the original book . Also , keep in mind the original book is significantly darker . Motherfuckers die in the original story . Tim Burton , you think this was dark , but no , it was significantly light compared to the original story . People died . It was horrible . It was very sad .
I'm not even gonna say in a good way , it was just very sad , like just some real shit .
I mean , wasn't Tim Burton's version of it like Walt Disney pictures ?
Strangely enough , no Disney . Disney had kind of oh wait , it was Touch Dome pictures that was the distributor , because Disney got rights to it later on , when it first came out . No , it wasn't .
Okay , I was curious because I'm like , okay , it's on Disney Plus , you can rent it or buy it . On Apple TV , it's on Prime Video , but .
I would say mainly Disney . It comes out in every Walmart and every Target and every Best Buy in October , so you can get it now to like five bucks .
Yeah , like , if anything , just buy the DVD if you want or the blue rave if you can , because you know , like bro , like , okay , a little nerdy news before we close this out . Apparently , as of yesterday , it's time to record it .
On October 9th , the annual subscription for Disney Plus has increased to $79.99 a year , and then next year at the same time today , it will bump up to $139.99 . So it is gonna be roughly $80 a year now and it's gonna be $140 next year .
This is also debating because I also just read an article . Disney , as far as in India , has already sold has already sold their rights to a lot of their stuff from Disney Plus to other companies in India Because with the price increase , they lost a significant amount of their fan base .
And even though there's a lot of people here in America who love watching Disney Plus , funny enough , india is actually their biggest moneymaker as far as the subscriptions . So most of it they lost a significant amount of money . I see these articles all the time .
It's like like Disney Plus lost tons of money , lost tons of money , but then when you look at it and like , based on American standards , it's like they didn't lose nothing . What are you talking about ? They're not specifically America . Worldwide , the increase has angered a lot of people and their biggest country , india , that they made the most money from .
They started losing people , so now they've already started selling some of those rights in that country specifically . So keep in mind that there's a possibility that this price increase may not stick because it's already started causing some problems .
Yeah , it's true . All right , with that being said , let's go ahead and close out this episode . I'm sorry . I'm kind of praying for it for a moment , good .
I have nothing else . I want to thank you so much for listening to us . I really do appreciate it . Tune in next time that you guys hear me would be my review on Dragon Prince Netflix show . If you haven't seen it , I'm still very sad right now because , even though the writers part of the sag strength has ended , the actors has not .
So for obvious reasons , of course , and I'm still in support . But until that happens , until that gets settled out , we will not get a season six of this show yet , Although it's already been written out , we're just not gonna get it yet . But I will review the first five seasons .
Yeah , I do Well , nerd . It's been good , but we gotta go . Stay spooky , my friends . Some sinister things are coming . We are zoning out . Take it easy .