Multiverse Theories, Character Analysis and Cinematic Intricacies of Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse

Last time we were talking about Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse , so today we're going to be discussing Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse and , without further ado , let's go ahead and zone it on . Gentlemen , what can I say about this film ? It was gas , it was awesome . It was like the hype was not oversold , it was brilliant .

Like we talked about the animation and everything in the last film and we're like wondering how to help . They're going to top this across the Spider-Verse and the way they did it Brilliant , chef's kiss , awesome . So let's start with Professor Tuck how you feeling about across the Spider-Verse ?

It was significantly better than the first one . The first one was amazing . So yeah , it's a bomb movie , bro . Like you said , it was gas .

Like I mean not to say they doesn't deserve it , but a little too soon . That's how I'm feeling about this movie . Here is where I'm like I want to let it happen , but the decade's still young , so I'm like give it a few more years , let me see what secret wars and all that goes on , and nothing better shows up .

Now I'm like you know , to be fair , across the spider verse and maybe even beyond , the spider birth was like the best we had in the 2020 .

But no , I was curious to ask him to that aspect because the fact of like you know , we talked about it last night , how we don't want to jump to this whole conclusion or thing , and you know , obviously I know we ain't changed our mindsets onto that , but it's still pretty funny in the aspect of like this is obviously been so hyped to really talk about and

it's still the one kind of just dawn on my mind onto that fact that all these previous movies , everyone's just like oh yeah , there's no movie going to be better than that , there's no movie going to be better than that . And boom , we got a movie better than that .

On Spider-Woman , years prior she accidentally killed her best friend , peter Parker , when he was mindlessly rampaging after the lizard because he wanted to be just as strong as Gwen , and then the police have been hunting her ever since because they assume that she killed Peter Parker , similar to how in the last film officer , they was kind of assumed that all mouse

morality killed . The problem , and speaking of which , I'm not trying to derail too much , but I got a fun factory on , depending on if you're really strong on your comic book knowledge . Do y'all know who the original prowler was ?

But the original prowler was also named Obi Brown , who was supposed to be a rival to mouse morality . Yeah , yeah , that's crazy , yeah .

But let's be fair , you probably wouldn't be listening to our podcast if you didn't already seen the film , so it's more like the people who already seen it . So , okay , let's cut the bullshit and let's talk about how meat you feel about the film . But , to be fair , let's just try to make sure that we're on the same page about shit .

So , essentially , gwen Sting has run ever since she encountered the origin of the bullshit from Italian Renaissance thing all to the universe . And that's again like we talked about in Into the Spider-Verse , how they have these multiple art styles and you just have this , uh , parchment version of the vulture trying to hunt down Gwen Stacy .

And of course you know this means that the multiverse was kind of converging . And then spider people , like spider-man 2099 and Jessica drew showed up with portal generating watches , helped wins of do the vulture . Her father wins . Father confronts gwin and reveals her identity .

But because he was like and you know , you're my daughter , but I'm also a cop and I got to job , so Put your hands up , you're under arrest . And I was like that , it's me . I was like yeah , yeah , but you know , I got still do my job , so put your hands up . I got read , you , you're right .

And and Because she was like in a very bad spot , miguel was like Ah , okay , come on , let's go . So she joined the sprite anxiety and skates with it . Uh , any notes on that so far ?

Well , we're finally like now we're actually going across the spider verse , and so if you talk about just that beginning sequence in itself Like beautifully done , it's in the fact that it starts off that you know , she's obviously has this little thing with her dad .

Yes , we get a real call back , because into the spider verse we did get a bit of Gwen's backstory , where it does show her , um , defeating lizard and wound up turning back into this human form and then she's over his body and it doesn't go any further than that .

Then the cross , the spider verse , would get that Better understanding that , no , it was , it was a dear friend . It was peter parker who wound up being bullied . He wanted , he wanted powers and then wound up becoming the a monster in a sense , because he was just so upset about being bullied and and literally in the midst of a fight .

She didn't she didn't like hit him so hard that killed him or anything like that . She just knocked him into something and it just fell onto him . It was . It was a freak accident based upon the fight , and I love how they were able to really kind of bring about that story but also understand that point of life .

She didn't have a chance to explain what was going on like the police officer came in there , made an assumption and just jumped to conclusions , didn't want to listen to anything and just completely just went along with , just went along with whatever he's thought Made things so much more difficult .

Yeah then of course we wanted to have a there was a lot of having to wait right there .

I have all these type of abilities and stuff and it's like no matter what damage you do , no matter how much you're ripping apart his armor , he's able to just regrow it . And then , of course , we get our man Miguel here . Oh gosh , well , we don't , we haven't introduced as Miguel . But whatever , we get Miguel , spider-man 2099 , it shows up .

And then he goes ahead and he's like ah great , he makes all these different references , like yeah , he came from a completely different dimension and all types of stuff . And then also that point of mentioning that he's like I love the references , that he's like I have to fix these anomalies all across the universe .

And so what winds up happening is is that we wound up getting all of these different low analogies . And of course he mentions earth 999 . He said I don't even want to talk about Peter Parker and Dr Strange and earth 999 . And then like what ?

Between that and some of the cameos that was in the spider society , is it fair to say that , even though what's been going on with spider-verse doesn't have a direct effect on it , is it fair to say that the spider-verse movies should be treated as MCU canon ?

It affected all these different situations and parallels to happen because let's keep it model to this one . Obviously you said we're going to be spoiling it . So the main point of the most of the whole movies , we find out that Miles is the original anomaly as far as the spider-verse anomaly .

So he's the original anomaly because he winds up becoming spider-man of this particular , of his particular arm , earth , but of 1610 , but he was not supposed to be a spider-man whatsoever and so it was ones of being , as , like it , literally a spider from earth .

42 winds up coming to you , it bit you , gave you powers , but then now there's no spider-man on earth , 42 and it becomes this whole big thing because Now kingpin was able to do the little cross thing , cross over those universes with a collider , which he was not supposed to be able to do .

If spi , if Miles never became spider-man , peter would have never been distracted , peter would have stopped kingpin before the collider even began and none of this Would have happened but because of that one little anomaly , because that spider crossed over . It's what caused all of these different things to change , because the collider happened .

It left giant wormholes in every single universe and all of the different spider-man's are trying to do what they can to fix . They're particular anomalies and so it's a really great little aspect in itself of how we're able to kind of put and piece all these little different things together .

And so he wants to make it all these different references , and it's just like it's crazy . Yes , I'd say it should be MC , you can . I mean technically that he've referenced it enough .

And then , like you said , when we go to the spider society , we literally get to see , um , like toby maguire spider-man , we literally see images of him in the whole spider-verse when they're talking about it . They've already mentioned earth 999 , like Come on .

I also liked how we get our first references to the fact that there's something wrong with miguel when he winds up taking vulture all the way out of the museum and they're out in the air and then he looks like he's about to bite him and then vultures like yo wait , what are you doing ? What is happening ?

At that exact moment , the helicopter shows up the lights and he's like uh , he's like what are you doing ? It's like I'm the good guy . He said you don't look like a good guy . You're not really acting like a good guy right now .

But one thing is like with the whole biting thing that's supposed to be canon , because he's built different , Like unlike the other Spider , is there a damn spider ?

Yeah , like , unlike the other Spider people , he doesn't have Spider sense and he doesn't have those you know , those little feels in his hands to where he can like climb walls with most Spider people . That's why he has the claws and shit . So he has to like to make up for his flaws . But he also the whole venom biting thing that's common for canon .

So it's like , yeah , it is yeah , but you know that doesn't dismiss the fact that there is something up with Miguel mentally , like maybe the whole job of being Spider-Man is like kind of getting to him because you know he's trying to be this leader that's trying to be responsible for all this shit .

But just like what Peter Parker said in the first Spider-Verse movie , that's the hardest part about this job you can't save everybody .

He doesn't address what happened to the Spider-Man from the universe that he inserted himself in , other than the fact that that Spider-Man died and he's like well in this universe he said it's in my version of him had died . So I just popped in and then decided to go ahead and try to take over , but it didn't work out .

And this is what I also mentioned , like last night . I was the fact like go figure , that Kingpin's like his whole story . What he done to create the Collider and everything is Miguel's whole story too , and it's like hmm , and then you know the new one . with the anomaly that happened , he collapsed that entire universe and it caused a big problem .

So he just hopped back into his universe . But did anything happen to his universe with that as well too ? Because soon the fact that he wound up destroying another universe and his universe is immediately connected . Because then he shows why he's in the Spider society .

He shows that if too many canon events get messed up , or too many things mess up , it causes the Spider-Verse to shift off . It said it affects and he literally said it himself it affects the universes that are right next to it . So he hopped into the universe that was right next to his , destroyed that universe . What's about to happen to his universe ?

So while Gwynn Tray was back to Earth 1610 to reconnect with Miles , while secretly tracking the spot across dimensions , miles invisibly wanted Gwynn Tray to spot too Mom Batten in Earth 15101 , the poor just called and went on my back . I kind of skipped it a little bit .

So , yeah , she still visits Earth 1610 , but this was 16 months after the collider destruction . So Miles Morales is adapting to being Spider-Man , while missing Gwynn and collaging with his parents , of course .

But he's encountered the spot who was trying to rob the convenience store with the ATM , and he was an alchemist scientist whose body was infused with the poor after the collider explosion .

So the spot blames Miles for his dilemma and reveals that while testing the collider before his destruction , he transported the spider that bit Miles from another universe , earth 42 . He then accidentally travels into a void where he learns to travel to other universes contain the alchemist collider to use them to empower himself further .

So funny thing is , I was not expecting this dude spot to be as funny as he is . I almost lost it , like when I went to see in theaters with our boy Apocrypha , I almost lost it . I almost busted out laughing when this dude said please let me just rob you ?

He's robbing an Islamic bookstore and so you have to go in and try to fight him and you wound up like punching him one time and all five of his health meters disappear . Jeez , it was like bro , what Is this a joke ?

One of the Joker's main things is the fact that he has this main connection with Batman and it's like he just can't like everything is to get Batman's attention , everything is just constantly doing so . So we wound up having a universe where Batman dies or Batman is gone or he retires Like what happened to Batman beyond and Joker's like well does Batman ?

He's not here anymore . And it's like well , we got a new Batman . No , he's just a pretendor . He's not the real Batman . I can't be Joker anymore , I can't be funny anymore , and it's like that's all Spot wants to do . Is that he wants to be Miles's like his main villain ? He's like I want to be your arch-nemesis . I deserve this .

And can I also mention really quick Spot's whole background story ? I like how they took a joke from the first movie and made that villain . Because , that's one of the funny things about it , even though they kept referencing all the time about 42 , about the number 42 , and that it came from Earth 42 .

One of the things that was also most interesting , the craziest thing about it , is the fact that how they referenced the fact that he's like and you threw a bagel at him and it's like wait a bagel .

And back in the first movie , when Miles was running around with Peter B Parker and he was running trying to escape and he wound up tossing the bagel when they were in the science lab , when they were escaping from the scientist lab , and he tossed the bagel and it , like now , bonked off the dude's head .

Originally that was a joke because they had wrote bagels on the storyboard in order to make mention that . Okay , this is what happened . But what happened was when the animators was animating it , they thought that it had to be there , that it had to say bagel , so they were just like we're just gonna keep that . Okay , so this is what's supposed to be here .

But it wound up being so hilarious . They were like we're gonna keep it and see if any people catch that Easter egg . And a lot of people didn't . So when some people did catch it and made mention of it and they're like oh , it does say bagel , oh , that's hilarious and stuff . And then now here we are across the spider-verse . That was the main plot point .

I'm telling you you guys all are not , that mean You're like check off gun .

And then he wound up being right there when they stopped Kingpin with a collider and a piece of the collider shot and hit him and when he wound up losing his face , his body , everything , and then he just has a bunch of holes on himself now .

Like imagine a world where , if you didn't stop Kingpin , you get Earth-42 to where there's no Spider-Man . Well , to be fair , there was just no Spider-Man , so that was their advantage . And the sinister sticks is start running . Shit . They got a whole cartel . Miles G Morales is the fucking prowler Well , with Aaron pretty much being like a mentor of his .

And if you do stop the collider , depending on how you do it , like yeah you may say today but you might also cause another problem later on . It's almost like a Dragon Ball Z effect , to where it's like you know how sometimes when you defeat one villain , it may provoke another villain to show up .

these other different issues , because if you've never became , if he never became Spider-Man , peter Parker would have never been distracted . He says . What would have happened was is the fact that they would have actually stopped Kingpin before he started the collider .

Cause , remember , what happened was , especially with spot situation , is that the Kingpin activated his collider and by activating it is what caused all these different anomalies and stuff to happen .

Now here's the two things that makes Miguel's theme seem really off . That doesn't quite make sense . First thing is this technically this is supposed to be a canon event . Based upon what Miguel is saying , you're the original anomaly , miles . You caused this and your world is about to collapse , but it hasn't collapsed already in six months .

But we've already seen what happened with the Indian Spider-Man as soon as his can event got interrupted , his world started corrupting and colliding almost instantly , like immediately , and that's what happened . And then we understand with Miguel , when he went to this other universe , his whole universe started .

The new universe he went to immediately started colliding and stuff when he was there . So why is it that Miles' universe has not actually messed up yet ? Could it actually be that technically this is supposed to be a canon event and Miguel is just upset about it being a canon event ? Is there something else going along ?

Is Miles actually not the original anomaly and maybe something else is going on too ? Is there a whole new thing to say ?

So you know , they might be an exception to the quote unquote anomalies that's going on but , like y'all said , it's like they may be more into it than these canon events to where it's like , oh , this is not really supposed to happen with y'all universe .

But I'm like , hey , he's just like my hero academia , where you know , deci was fighting overhaul and he definitely told NightEye , yeah , I'll twist that future . In fact , professor Tuck , you know what Funny thing is fun fact .

And she rifted out the packaging . Wow .

There's no more conversation , there's no more friends , we're not going to friends , no more , we're not going to be anything if you don't put that .

And then the final straw in my extra figure was supposed to be in the package because it was me .

cannon event was that he abandoned his Spider-Man outfit abandoned being a hero and left his Spider-Man outfit in the dumpster and just left . He was walking away . It was a whole particular image and it is something that happens in some comments . Like Spider-Punk does pretty much retire , he's just like I can't do this , no more , and he just walks away .

And so honestly , that probably been it for me . On that one I've been like and I'm no longer Spider-Man . At that moment I corrected my universe into cannon problem Cause that needs to hunt down another one because she ruined it . She ruined it .

Miles follows the wind , based a team up with a spider man poverty of pop up here . Spider man India and spider punk , our boy against the spot , who successfully absorbs the power of that world's collider before the spy escapes the in my share of vision of his features attack .

That includes Miles followed Jeff as the collider collabs miles safe on spider man India's girlfriend followed a police captain , but mum battin' begins falling . Apart from a disruption of a cannon event , members of the spider society are brought to assess the damage , while miles when and hold are sent to the society's headquarters and the way by your on earth .

928 , where hundreds of spider people reside in a massive complex . First of all let me say I like how . Not only do I like spider man India , but you remember the pender from Deadpool . He's voiced by that guy . The testicab driver from Deadpool , he voiced the voice of spider man India . So I thought that was kind of cool .

And of course Obi he's cool , so I think he had like , obviously he had like the coolest intro in my personal themes where it's like you know , he was like this , he even said himself he's not really a role model , but he was a runway model at one point and essentially he's more like a force of chaos to where he doesn't really believe in teams like .

He's more like a solo act anyways . But you know he's kind of cool with winning miles and other people . So it's like he's cool with people but he don't really do teams anyways . But he's also kind of an anarchist , obviously . But he pretty much encapsulates the whole punk movement because even he himself said that oh , he doesn't believe in consistency .

That's why with his art style , his art style is never consistent , it's always like different codes and shit . So that kind of compliments his personality too . But starting with Tuck , do you have any notes on Spider-Man , india , obi , that whole chunk .

and whatnot . Because it's some interesting theories out there and I'm trying to see what do y'all think about , like the spot society coming to try to clean up the mess . Do you think they're actually cleaning up the mess or they're making it worse ?

It's like I think you're trying to think beyond Spider-Verse to like really get a full picture of what's going on .

supposed to happen in every single universe . Because in this aspect here , while they were in India , while they were in Spider-Man India's universe , what was happening is is automatically Spider-Woman sends a notice . One of the Spider-Woman is the digital one sends a notice to Gwen's armlet saying , hey , a can event is about to happen . How do they know that ?

No , hold on , hold on , hold on , and all of that tech is from 2099 .

Maybe Miguel is orchestrating the whole shit to make sure that all the can events that was supposed to happen actually happen but the anomaly that wasn't supposed to happen , that needs to be taken care of . So he's orchestrating it to make sure that everything go according to what happens in the future in his timeline .

So who knows , maybe even though the spot is being the multiversal threat , but behind the scenes , maybe Miguel is like kind of using the whole thing with the spot to kind of make sure that whatever he's trying to make sure pans out , actually pans out .

In other words , it's like he's trying to make sure that the spot do exactly what he wants him to do , but not the whole thing with Miles getting the way of Spider-Man , india's father dying because according to Miguel , that was supposed to happen .

But just like with a lot of spider people , who was reluctant with the whole deal , with certain people having to die . Miles is like nah , I'm just the whole point is he's just not cool with the idea of letting people that he loves actually die .

It's like he's not cool with just letting that shit slide , this whole thing with his father , the whole shit with anybody , to be perfectly honest . So I would like that makes sense .

It's like how are you supposed to feel about , oh , that's so , um , your parent or uncle , whatever the case may be , they're going to die and you're just going to have to let it happen .

Going back to like even to the comics , because obviously they're not going to have a zombie Spider-Man in this one , because during that particular multiverse that one traveled to different universes purposely destroying other universes , that would have been a pretty interesting villain to have a zombie Spider-Man having a zombie , having a zombie Avengers trying to kill

everybody . But this was only focusing on Spider-Man , so it makes sense . The other thing I will mention into this , also going into this one series coming soon , so there's that .

But one thing I will also mention to this understand that for Miguel , the most important thing to him was not capturing spot , who was purposefully going into various different universes causing different problems . That wasn't his issue , because even though spot was speeding things up , he was still causing certain canon events to happen .

The issue for Miguel was Miles , because Miles was trying to stop canon events from happening . He said he needed spot to still be captured , but that wasn't his main focus .

So Lego Spider-Man originally was not going to be part of the show , mostly because that there actually isn't really a Lego Spider-Man per se .

So what wanted to happen is a cool , fun thing is the fact that , after what happened to Into the Spider-Verse and how all the Spider-Man movies are so famous and stuff , so what happened was that there was actually a kid that he was like 15 years old in Canada and what happened was is that he decided to make his own little , not necessarily Spider-Series , but

he did like his own little Lego stop motion type thing and it wound up coming to the creators and they saw and he said this looks fantastic .

So they reached out to him and asked him to animate that whole scene where spot just pops up inside of the inside of the Lego Spider-Man universe and then where Lego Spider and then , like Peter Parker , is just like oh okay . He's like oh no . And then he's like you know , does this little thing with talks to James Jones ? Yeah , yeah , yeah , I got to go .

And then he makes the beep boop sound and starts talking through to talk to Miguel and Miguel mentions . He's like hey , you're one of the greatest , and stuff . That's actually a reference , specifically because that kid made that scene . He made that scene and they added it to the movie . A 15 year old kid made that part .

That was probably one of the most amazing things I've ever found out .

Miguel explains to miles that each of the spider's people stores until can and events , which is the death of a police captain close to Spider-Man , and that's right from those events threatens reality , so he says , and Miguel admits that he tried to replace a deceased person , himself from another universe who had a happy family , on for that universal collapse .

Miles realized that the spot is burning . Jeff will be promoted to police captain in two days . That's supposed to be a canon event , but what's like I said , miles just can't let that slide . So Miguel tried to imprison Miles to prevent him from saving Jeff , but hope he helps Miles break loose before using the portal to quit the society .

So Miguel orders his older spider people to apprehend Miles and having this whole resulting in a frenzy chase throughout the complex in city , which that whole scene alone like when you talked about last night , to where it took like a whole week , that's to animate one second of into the spider verse , to where it took four years just to complete this whole scene

and I was like fuck to their , to the animated spread . I'm like that's just amazing . But shit ,

uh , okay . So Miguel eventually corners Miles and tells him that he never supposed to become Spider-Man in the first place and that Earth 42 consequently have no Spider-Man . You know , took you guys who already said it like Spider-Man and that universe would have stopped it before King activated the collider and everything . We've been finding dandy . But again .

So Miguel says . But Miles , using the venom shop blast , he pleased , with the help of Marco Cascio , you know , spider bite and supposedly returned to his home to mention , but because he was bitten by the spider from Earth 42 , he was sent to Earth 42 .

And seeing when that's a liability , miguel decided , you know what , when you're out of the spider's sight , and decided to send her home . So when reconciled with George , who resides as a police captain , he gives her a watchful we had left for her and when decided to help , use it to help Miles .

So then we get to Miles who , returns to the apartment , revealed to his mother that he is Spider-Man , whom she does not recognize because there's no Spider-Man or 42 . Miles realized that Earth 42 , his uncle , aaron , is still alive , but his father , jeff is dead and Miguel just been .

Riley Scarlet Spider traveled to Earth 1610 to look for Miles , while Gwen travels to in her own portal , which he sends Ben through . So she then speaks to Miles' parents , promises to bring him home . Jeff spies on their conversation .

Uncle Aaron and Earth 42 interrogates Miles , alongside Mike Miles G Morales , who was Earth 42 crawler , and at the spot returns to Earth 1610 , begins its attack and assembles the team to find Miles , because it's Peter B Parker made a the OG's set , yeah , set made it .

Yeah , spider-man , india whole be spider bite , spider-man noir , penny Parker and spider hand and that's pretty much the movie yeah . Just want to know the , the penguin alone is like yeah , is like you're thinking like , ok , what the hell is going on Earth 42 ?

And the first clue was when Miles was going to his mother and she was like , hey , what happened to your braids ? I was like braids and I was like , oh shit , like something must be way different about this one . And then next thing , you know , you find out who the real problem is .

It's not Aaron , but nope , it's your version of is like your variant Earth 42 miles , morales , that's a crawler . And I'm like , wow , some had this . Like if Earth 42 had a spider man , maybe my old G Morales might have been inspired to be spider man , but then again , our miles Morales is supposed to be like actually love things .

So it's kind of hard to say , but it's almost like it kind of feels like just imagine if things were different and Earth 42 miles became spider man at some point . But it's almost like his destiny , robb I anomaly , but I don't know .

He said no , your dad , because he's already understanding that by this point , this miles has already come to so many terms as a fact to understand , except , in fact , his dad died . So it's one of those things . If I look , I need you to help me save my dad . Your dad is not my responsibility . My dad died . Nobody came to save my dad .

Why should I help you save yours ?

So what if it just happened sooner ? It wound up causing an anomaly that happened to where there's a world with no spider-man . Earth 402 has no spider-man at all because miles was supposed to be that spider-man there but it didn't happen . So he became the prowler .

And so what happens is that the mouse that we follow , earth 1610 , was still supposed to become the new spider-man . He was supposed to become the Miles Morales Spider-man but it happened sooner than expected . But because it still happened , it didn't break the anomaly . And the can event still happened where miles was supposed to lose his dad .

But because it happened sooner , he wound up . Because , remember , in the first into spider-verse movie , uncle Aaron was retiring , he went back for one last job . During that one last job , uncle Aaron was not supposed to run into miles as spider-man , he wasn't supposed to find him as spider-man , because what if it happened too soon ?

Miles wasn't supposed to be spider-man yet , and so that's the only thing I would think about . That would have happened , and so things still played out slightly differently .

Miguel is literally 80 years into the future From just Spider-Man 1610 , from that's just Earth 1610 . In itself . He's still 80 plus years in the future from that one . That's no telling about all the other ones , because , especially because in fact , that he meant medieval version of Vulture . That means it's a medieval version of Spider-Man .

That's even more hundreds and thousands of years from that one . Miguel would be the most the furthest timeline . Spider-man Time travel is there . He's not just hopping universe , he's hopping universe and time . He's doing what Trunks did in Dragon Ball Z . I'm not only doing that . It's a weird thing , it's a different universe from the stage .

And look , one of the funniest things about this too I knew this watching .

So , in other words , you know what I want you to know and nothing more . Just do your job . Trust me , Believe me Exactly .

But when he started like as that whole scene when they're walking to Miguel and Hogy keeps snatching different things and Miles is putting stuff back , but Hogy goes back and grabs it again , you know it's weird , he's like grabbing on pieces of different stuff .

Because you know what , beyond the spider first . All that said , maybe the value of some of these Spider-Man Bunker Paws might jump up in value . Who knows , we'll see .

universe anyway , just hanging out .

Peter B Parker apparently was with him when the timeline that he tried to take over collapsed and everyone just glitched out and just faded into nothing . So Peter B Parker was there with him while this was happening , while that happened . So supposedly he's supposed to be in his timeline .

That's what he's supposed to be at right now where the spider society is at . But do we really know ? Yeah , because they still can't necessarily fix an anomaly . They can only hold it and try to see if they can fix the original anomaly . Is what they're hoping for and everything will just go back to normal .

Remember , they said sometimes they hasn't worked and many times it hasn't worked that they've been able to fix the worlds . The only thing they can do is stall it . Yeah , that's what happens to all those people while everything is being stalled ?

He's like you know what I still like how , during the whole chase sequence , as soon as the chase issue was started oh , and I found a fact that he obviously helped out Miles and he used his palm , not just your fingertips . He said you're going to burn your fingertips , use your palm . So you use the palm .

I want to take this chance to say that I resigned . Boom drops his little thing and just pops back into a different dimension , into his own dimension , and you're like what ?

So on the off chance that y'all are going to end up betraying the Spider Society and all that shit , let me go ahead and take the initiative to build you a mixture of PortaWide so that way you can kind of fix this mess . So it was almost like yeah , with Miles being the original anomaly and Gwen being his friend .

It's more like yeah , I kind of can tell that she's going to go sideways . So let's just go ahead and make sure that you have a PortaWide case thing . Start popping off , you know .

And I'm like , yeah , I would have bet if a dude was made out of like pretty much nothing but collages of everything , starts popping up and starts talking to you because literally every single time Hugo moves is different collages . So it's different .

Sometimes it's color , sometimes black and white , sometimes it's like in brown or gray , like it changes up in different things as he moves , because his whole character is nothing but a collage . Yeah , that would be weird to me too . I'm like , are you alright , and Miles is waiting for me .

I don't know I quit my job , but I don't remember , like I only remember drinking . I don't remember until I saw one spank my beer .

He was like I already know it's about to happen Because he knew specifically the fact that Miguel was so enraged to the fact that literally I like how we get when Hogi is first like we first hear about him , we're kind of questioning whether or not we're going to like him or not , because we first hear about him is literally the fact that Gwen mentions that

she spends , that she's spent a couple times spending a little bit of time over in his division and Miles is like we talk about an overnight thing or like just for a little bit hanging out , what you mean , spending time in his universe , what you talking about , hey Hogi . Hey , you left your sweater in my place .

And once we switch over back to Miles' story , it quickly becomes the fact that no , she's not a mother figure and she is already regretting the fact that she's brought Gwen in , that she's already starting to have second chit , and by second guess , because literally the beginning of the movie she was so much harboring on the fact that , look , we can't just leave

her here . We got it , we can bring her with her , she can help us . And literally Miguel the whole time is like no , she's going to be a hassle . No , leave her , don't bring her . He's like fine , whatever , I'll just go ahead and do it . Yeah .

I'm putting my stuff at risk now at this point , like I try looking out for you and it's been held every single time . I'm not gonna lie to you . At first it was one of those ones that really felt like I have seen this happen .

So just an all honesty thing , I have seen to where I do had a friend she was a black girl , was looking out for a white girl and it wound up not going out very well .

In most cases it doesn't always go well , because the thing about it is that it's still well known in my society that for white girl makes a mistake , slap on the wrist almost every single time . But then let a black woman make a mistake one time and almost it harbors over your head from it and it's a real thing that does kind of happen .

It's like I keep sticking my neck out for you , I keep fucking up and you starting to fuck me up . Like I'm sticking my neck out , I work it . I mean , I don't think that's what it is , but it's just .

So I guess it's like okay , well , at least it's now more so fair game to where we just pretty much call out stupid shit when we see stupid shit . But I don't know , yeah .

But I mean , then again , gwen is like a teenager , so it's like she's not like a lost puppy or anything , so it's like she's kind of capable of going home , but it's like bro , like it was your idea to bring her along , so like .

of how it worked out . Yeah , I will say one of the funniest things about it out of everything how much she was moving around and stuff . My wife was literally like how has she not gone into labor yet ?

Like do you need to like like down , get an obstetrician ? Or you know , like I , on a moral standpoint , it's like I don't know about finding a pregnant woman . That's just don't be all right . And then they did a sequel skit to that . But the baby was like born , but she was known .

No , that's the funny thing , she had the kid , but then she got pregnant again . And then it was like now it's even more awkward , because don't be , have a baby already out of the oven , but you got another one in the oven too .

So it was one of those things where it's like , on one hand was like hey , we're not trying to restrict you too much , but I'm just like , are you sure you want me to do all this for the sake of the baby ? You ?

Another thing about this also so we can't go based off of true comic book canonical , because if we go on true canonically the actual goes not go spider Gwen but Spider-Man ghostwriter . That would be actually got a chance to see him . He was animated in the chase sequence and stuff would have been going based off a true canonical .

He would have is one of the many , honestly , that would have already captured miles . He doesn't . Obviously , miles is not killing you , so you can't do a penance there or something like that . It's not even one of those type of situations .

It's the fact that because he's an ethereal Spider-Man that is not like legitimately stuck to the plane of existence that we are , he can fly , he can go through walls and stuff , realistically he would have been able to catch miles . I think he was probably one of the ones . You realize that there's quite a few with the spider .

There's quite a few Spider-Man and Spider-Women that even though they chased afterwards , it was kind of a chase , as far as a . Should we really be capturing this Spider-Man Like ? Do we actually have to capture miles , like ? Is there a reason for it ? Why are we chasing after one of our fellow heroes ? I'm confused .

Oh man , but that chase sequence one of the things , one of the best parts about it is that chase equals is one of the longest animations of it , like one of the things I found very interesting , like it took four years to make into the spider verse .

And even out of those four years , which is for one , I know we had already kind of briefly touched on today that it was actually pretty quick , because most animations don't take that short period of time , usually takes like five or more years and this one , like into the spider verse , was done in four years .

And not just only that it was done in four years , but the first year and a half and this is something that I actually want to mention because this is new information for me . I didn't know the first year and a half , but they were making into the spider verse .

They didn't start writing a script , they didn't start animating , it was them planning out what with what the movie was going to be about and what was going to happen . So literally imagine they got the budget , they got everything and they took off the first year and a half to do nothing but think about it .

That's true , like so across the spider verse specifically , is that they had already finished writing it , like I mentioned that during the last episode , that , yeah , like they had already finished writing it was supposed to be two parts to just that it wound up being so long they broke it off into two parts .

So that way they can get they can get a chance to fully flesh out each individual part on its own At least that's how it feels , but they do . But we do have confirmation that they have already have the fully written script for beyond the spider verse . Anyway , it was supposed to be a one full link feature film . That was just extremely long .

As far as everything else , everything else in the home , we're going to say part one of the second movie .

So , like either way , across spider versus his own standalone movie , as far as we're concerned , as far as like the second movie , if we take into account about that same thing , it only takes them like three , like maybe three years , three , three and a half years to actually animate this particular movie .

So we take that into account and , considering the fact that they had already been working on the full length film , it might actually be that the movie can come out . I still don't want to rush it . I still want to take that to make sure that it's like is just at golden , if not better , than across the spider verse .

Honestly , we didn't think they could do that . We didn't think they could make into the spider verse even better , and they obviously shot it out the park . Yeah , so it's a good possibility beyond the spider versus going to be even better so , but take into account that is a possibility that it may be ready by 2024 .

We don't know , it's just one of those things that they have actually already started working into it . But then you know hearing the fact that one of the animators saying that oh , we haven't . You said the only thing we've gotten done was just this and this . We haven't got anywhere near enough done .

The thing that I want , I recently found out , to into the spider . Verse had 180 animators and not all of those animators work together . So it's a possibility that this particular animator doesn't know what else is already being worked on because it's not part of his group .

So if we take that one animator yeah , we can't take the word of one animator because they already have 180 workman first , moving pretty much a little bit more . They had a few more working for across the spider verse . This one animator might not know what's already being worked on .

All this stuff is being put together , but it's being pieced together by the producers .

Oh , the other thing I will say that I really enjoyed is the fact that , like when , when Miles finally escaped and went to the go home machine , the send you back home machine , and it's like send me back to my , to my time , where it read him and literally it's like , honestly , before it happened , me , my wife , we always can predict stuff that's about to

happen , and me and her already had knew this was going to happen . We were like they kept mentioning so much that it said that it reads your DNA . But we understand that with these radioactive spiders it changes your DNA . So , keeping that in mind , we already had an idea . Me and my wife already knew his DNA is altered .

He's no longer the Miles Morales from 1610 . He's the Miles Morales from 42 . And I wonder if the machine is going to pick up on that . Is it going to send him back to the dimension that it knows that it's that he's supposed to be from , or if it really is just reading his DNA , is going to read his changed DNA and send him to the wrong universe .

We had already predicted this was going to happen while it was reading them , and it's shown enough he went to the wrong universe , and then we got a rescue mission . Yep , and then , of course , we have wins . You know , she shows up to his universe and she's like fuck , he didn't come to this universe , he's in the wrong universe .

Damn , we got to go rescue .

The only thing we know of this particular universe is that Miles is the new prowler , so , but here's the other thing . Wait , I just realized .

We don't know what's happened to the Sinister Six , because , as far as we understand , in the Multiverse there is a Sinister Six in every single timeline . There is a Sinister Six We've gotten confirmation of that Is at least a Vulture and at least a Scorpion or something like that , or a Rhino , because we've seen Rhino as well too .

There is a Sinister Six of every single Multiverse . What happened to the Sinister Six of World 42 ? Do they work for Miles ? Wait are you asking that ? Or I don't know ? Like has he defeated them ? Like we don't know ?

So it could be one of those things where like okay , yeah , miles is the prowler and Aaron's probably like his mentor , but as far as we know it could be the same deal . And into the Spiderverse where the Prower was working for Kingpin , so maybe possibly prowler in 42 is working for the Sinister Six like a freelance agent to a degree .

You know comic and assassin deal , you know you paid me the money . I kill who you need me to kill .

I'm just going to say it's going to be Miles42 versus all the heroes that's going to come rescue , or is he going to , like you said , employ the Sinister Six to help fight alongside with him ?

Like it's one of those ones I'm just like , okay , because at first , the way it ends , you know , it seems like too many people would come and just trying to rescue Miles . Now , granted , they might need all of them to fight Spot I would agree on that but probably not for just the rescue Miles from his prowler persona .

But then , how powerful is his prowler persona ? We don't know . And that's what's going to be very interesting itself , because we still have Spot to deal with , because by the end of the movie , spot has already joined back to his , to the universe 1610 . Even though , again , that's not his universe , but he's already popped back into universe 1610 . I like how .

exactly who's part of this rotation . So I'm I'm already guessing Doc Ock has to be like the leader , like to a degree , like because you remember we already got a table Octavia , octavia , octavia or Olivia Octavia I don't know what it was , but I don't think it's going to be her in this one .

But I'm thinking like it's probably going to be a different doc Ock maybe , and they were going to have the usual gang , but that six member , that's going to be a toss up Like . Maybe we might get a Mysterio again , because you know Mysterio is supposed to be in the sense of six . But who knows ?

It said purposely . The sound was supposed to make you feel unsettled and it did . Like hell , you hear that Like you , just like .

You know From all the anime opening sound . She was also on this . She made a new single original song , realize , and I was like wow , I got to watch this movie . Just see how fire the sound track was going to be .

So until that episode , you stay nerdy , my friends . Great things are coming . We are zoning out .