¶ Nature vs. Nurture in Mega Mind
Alright nerds , it's time for another episode of the zone podcast . It's Jep Blackestream with Kokugatsu , and today's topic is Mega Mind , a throwback baby , and without further ado , let's on in on it .
Let me go ahead and say right off the bat I like how the premise of Mega Mind is the same topic I was trying to tell you guys about with Himiko , Toga and Shinzo from my Heroic Academia , where essentially it's a matter of Jenae's first environment to wear . With Toga because she was treated like a villain . She became a villain .
But with Shinzo because he had a better upbringing , I'm assuming . He was encouraged to be a hero even though his powers were considered that of a villainous type . So sometimes upbringing does factor in some things as light .
In other words , it's not always about how you're built from when you're born , but these circumstances of your childhood and adolescence and adulthood and blah , blah , blah . So you can be like born from the right side of tracks or the wrong side of tracks and that might affect how you might grow up .
And it pretty much shows , because you know how Mega Mind he was having , like the whole Superman arc , and his parents was saying you know they were really gonna say you were destined for greatness . But Mega Mind didn't hear that last part , so he's like wait , what do you ? What do you mean ? What am I great on ? That's the boy like what do you mean ?
And then shot off to go to earth . And then that's when Metro man was flying off to and he pretty much just cut Mega Mind out of a very pushed upbringing . And I like how , when the mama saw the baby , I was like , oh , it's a baby . And the dude was like , yep , I saw it and thought of you . Only the best for you , honey .
I was like bro , like a whole baby showed up at your fucking living room and you're just like , yeah , you know , I thought I was one , I thought it was kind of cute , and then Mega Mind just ended up landing right into the prison and they were like , oh well , you know we're gonna raise them as as their own .
We're gonna be like you know it takes a village type of thing and raising to be a criminal . But how you feeling about that premise so far ?
It's a . It's like the premise . We've talked about this before . Literally the people even you could have like the most messed up powers possible and everything like real talk . We've already had this conversation with about about Baku , though , where I remember understanding he was never meant to be a superhero , he was supposed to be a villain .
One of the things that even the , the Mongaka , even says specifically is that when you look at his powers , his powers is literally just nothing but exploding things . It's like , literally , he was completely written to be a villain and that was it , nothing else . But because the fans love him so much , you wind up making him a hero and stuff .
But so it's legit and so , yeah , it's kind of one of those funny things into it . First off , I love Mega Mind . Will Ferrell is just fucking hilarious . Can I play that role ?
Pause . Can I just say it's been a while since I watched Mega Mind and when I revisited this movie I did not know that fucking Will Ferrell Brad .
Pitt .
Tina Fey , jonah Hill , jk Simmons , ben Stiller all these heavy hitting actors was on this shit .
I , like you , can't mistake Will Ferrell . If you watched Will Ferrell enough . You can't mistake him when you understand the fact that one of my favorite movies you got to understand .
I didn't have my adult brain back then . That was like 13 years ago . It was like 2010 and it's 2023 now . Yeah , that's 13 years ago . I didn't have my adult brain back then . That's when I was like , yeah , I can watch shit with my brain turned off and I can kind of enjoy it . But nowadays I'm like , uh-uh , I see the cracks in the armor .
Uh-uh , I'm like disillusioned and I got to look at everything with my brain turned on from now on . And with this one I'm like , oh yeah , I got some shit to say about this one .
I mean good shit though .
Like , for the most part , I love the film , I love it , but I just got some shit to say , almost definitely .
Most definitely .
But yeah , as far as I can say that premise into it , it is true , like no matter what they act because in the fact that I also understand there's a whole movie I can't mingle with there's a whole movie that's completely different in this , where these couples this couple man and woman scientists , and what they did was is that they purposely adopted children from
various different backgrounds and tried to condition them to be a certain kind of way in order to prove nature versus nurture , and this was actually based on a real study . The real study actually happened in Russia , like years ago , not even like that long ago . I think it might right now . It was crazy years ago .
What's that ? You want to know . What's crazy about this ? This film was released in November 5th 2010 in the States , but it was released about a week earlier in Russia .
Oh , yeah , yeah , specifically of course , also , people in Russia love Will Ferrell . Like just real thought , but more you know ? Yeah , no , definitely .
But the thing about it is also is the fact that , yeah , they did this whole study and they pretty much like in the movie , it winds up proving itself to be kind of true , because what happens is that each of the kids come from various different backgrounds and they forcibly keep making these kids do certain things , whether the kids really like to or not .
Like if the kid got upset , they were like we're going to condition you to be an artist and like that's exactly what they kept doing was that they kept telling this kid that , hey , I mean , you get upset , paint something . And making this other kid a musician is like you get upset , I want you to sing about it .
And it's like this is what you do to calm yourself down . And it's like this is what you're going to do and stuff . And it was like , bro , what the fuck ? And it was like we don't want to do this , we don't want to do this . And they're like , well , you have to do it , it's going to help you out , and stuff like that .
But they went obviously didn't tell the kids , bro , yeah .
I mean I have a lot of implication to social commentary that I would go into , but I just I'm just not in the mood .
But like I'm trying to stay focused on the movie , but it's like I hear what you're saying and I'm like thinking , bro , I had this whole point where let's just say back in the day , it wasn't that great for , you know , people like us , so they had to adopt that kind of mentality to kind of get through it .
So you know , I'm not we'll say that for the afterthought , gotcha , I know most definitely .
But yeah , so this one was things that , like in one of the in the movie and in the study they say it wound up proving to be exactly true , like even if you have a nature for it like one of the kids , their dad was a a well was a murderer .
Like he was in prison for murdering tons of people , not like a serial killer , but he killed like a hell of a lot of people and stuff . And so they wound up nurturing that child had anger issues which they found to be kind of genetic actually that there was . There was a chemical imbalance in the kid's brain that made them more upset than regular .
But what was happening is that they wound up nurturing the kid to actually to actually like to be calm and to actually have a good mind set and be able to calm down and stuff and be able to be a musician and be able to use their anger in music instead of just being upset all the time .
You know that actually is kind of funny considering the path Metro man took . I mean , not exactly the same , but considering that okay , we'll talk about it later , but it just kind of funny that you know kind of focused on music kind of thing .
Oh yeah , like man that was like . That's what makes it so good is that ? It's like , yeah , this is one of those things , but yeah , make a mind like it was horrible , in that understanding that he was a genius break .
And it's like what would happen if fucking Tony Stark he wound up he's funny enough because he looks more like the leader , but with blue skin and less hair .
Yeah Well , definitely like completely bald . The leader needed to cut his hair , but you know whatever .
But anyway , I mean , it depends on the version of it Like , most part of the leader does have hair , even though he has that big ass , head and forehead and whatnot , but he still have hair , though , and not a man . Personally , I got nothing gets me my design . I'm just saying , I'm calling it like I'm seeing it , you know true .
But yeah , yeah , the nature versus nurture thing is very true and it was being a big point in this whole movie is funny because that does bring up a good point I'm going to make in the middle of this plot . But go ahead .
No , no , that's all . That's what I really got . Let me say to continue on so we can get into the actual plot in the story . No-transcript .
Okay , gotcha , gotcha , all right . So growing up in school , megamind and Metro man , of course , metro man was the popular kid , impressed in a close with his super powers and that's funny too , because a guest in this universe . I guess it doesn't matter if he's trying to keep his identity a secret , because he just using his powers like it's nothing .
And with Megamind he's trying to fit in , but he's just not fitting in very well and to a point where , oh well , you know , I guess I'm just meant to be a troublemaker and that's what I'm best at , apparently .
And he just grew up thinking that , to a point where he became an adult and became a supervillain and Metro man , you know , becoming an adult and started becoming a superhero for Metro City , which , funny enough , I'm like I'm thinking , bro , what a coincidence that this plot takes place in a place called Metro City , where their hero is Metro man .
I'm like the convenience is very convenient , but I'm not trying to nitpick on that too much , I'm just saying what a coincidence . So Megamind and Metro man has been doing this song and dance for a while now and I like how Megamind and Metro Man's relationship is reminding me of Batman and Joker in a way , and hear me out .
Sometimes when you see , like certain comic book panels or animated episodes , hell even maybe in some of the video games , you know how the Joker feels when there's a possibility that Batman died or some villain is threatening Batman's life and Joker's like , oh hell , no , who the fuck you think you are ?
Because it's almost like he developed a co-dependent relationship with Batman's , where it's like he's this age of the chaos that needs someone who can challenge him , to kind of complete him in a way .
And that's what Megamind had for Metro man too , because the main point of this film is that he thought he killed Metro man but we'll find out later that that's the actual case but even after he took over the city and he got everything he wanted , he was sad because he didn't have a Metro man to fight .
In fact , I find it really funny when the reporter , lady Roxanne , was mourning Metro Man's death and she was like I got one question for you , megamind , are you happy ? And this dude was looking like no .
I miss him too .
¶ Evolution and Identity of Mega Mind
But no , it was kind of like that's where it just seemed like funny enough , megamind grew up hating Metro man so much that it , ironically , gave him life .
Pretty much . Yeah , like that wasn't being a thing . That's like what was it ? The whole thing with Joker ? It was like but there's no Joker , then there's no Batman . Even Batman beyond wound up having a whole segment of that , whereas , like , even though he wanted to get a new Batman , joker never came back Because he was like there was no point .
He was like fuck that , there's no point into it . It's like this is just a fake Batman who the fuck cares type of shit . But then , as soon as fucking Batman had to , listen , listen .
Dick Grayson took out the mantle , david Wayne took out the mantle , and all of them were fake . But there was only one Bruce Wayne . That was the whole point with Joker , there was only one Bruce Wayne .
Exactly , bro . Like for real , and he ain't wrong on that . Like on some real shit , he ain't wrong on that one .
Like that one tit-tuck . I tried to show you all to where he was talking to Lex Luthor and he was like oh , you think you can kill Superman , but you can't kill a dude in a Halloween costume , a mere mortal in a Halloween costume . And he grabbed on Lex Luthor . Listen , motherfucker , that's no mere mortal .
Women's always built different . But anyway , let's come back into this , but no for real , though . So it's like we wanted to have an incident . The funniest thing into it is that apparently there was a lot of changes that wound up being made into . This Could kind of like , I'm gonna guess , based on runtime .
No one truly knows , but the thing about it is is that , like you had mentioned before , he's like you know , he didn't care as far as about trying to keep a secret identity . So Metraman actually did have a secret identity per se . Well , no , he didn't have a secret identity . My bad , he did not have a secret identity like at all .
The name he was given was Wayne Scott , but they it was supposed to be something that they put into the movie , but I don't remember if it was from time or whatever that they just wound up just not doing it and they never really talked about it too much into an interview . But he had , like , he has no secret identity .
People knew who he was , and one of the things about it is is that nobody really fuck with him like that , because even if he didn't , even if he , like you know , it's like oh well , we know who you are , we're gonna go attack your loved ones and shit like that . His parents were fucking rich .
No , no , no , listen , listen . First of all I didn't even care if it was a secret identity or whatnot . I thought it was actually refreshing because sometimes I think , depending on your circumstances , the whole secret identity thing is kind of overrated , well played out really . But it really depends .
Like , for instance , fireman , it makes sense for him to have a secret identity because he was just a high school kid and he has too much to lose if they find his identity . That makes sense . But with Metro man or Wayne Sky , as you say , it's like . First of all , he's built like fucking homelander .
He will wreck your shit if you go after his family , and even then it's like his family's rich . So his family could probably have some people come to your house and break your fucking knees .
True , true , but no for real though , like so yeah , he has , no , he has to find out , but but something very funny that you may want to keep in mind this is actually pretty hilarious is that his name is Wayne , but it's spelled exactly like Wayne , like Bruce Wayne .
I mean , that's what I was thinking .
I mean , I root for a little parallel , true , but yeah , so it was pretty funny into that , but otherwise , the number of points into that one , yeah , as far as , like you know , they grew up and went out and yet Mega mind wound up basing his entire thing off of Metro man , and that's also because of how they grew up .
Like , keep in mind on this one , every single time that Mega mind would try to do something , it will always like blow from his face , and a lot of those times it wasn't his fault .
Sometimes it was because you know he's experimenting for a lot of different things that he did not know yet , like he was still , he was all of experiment to see what would happen and that will lead to various different things .
But then there'll be certain stuff that maybe some other kid wound up accidentally messing up and like somebody else had hit something or somebody else had broke something , that wound up causing explosion and stuff , and it wound up always being Metro man that always come and save the day every single time .
So it started off with common mistakes , but then eventually this is one of those things that I have for somebody say , this needs to kind of a mental thing as well to . If you're constantly being put out to be the villain , eventually you just want to be identifying as that .
You find just adopting that role , whereas , like no matter what , I can't seem to do anything right . And that wound up being the case for Mega mind , because nobody ever reassured him of his goodness , that he had some type of good nature , even though he was saying the same thing , but even though he really wanted to like . he absolutely wanted to be a hero .
That was one of the things that he , as a kid , he really wanted to be , and that's one of the funniest things in his mind , too , is the fact that , even though he was raised by criminals and they taught him stuff , they never taught him to be evil . That's not really what they taught him to do , hey .
Kokugasu . I'm sorry to interrupt , but this is relevant to the topic . But did you know that they're working on a Mega mind TV series that's supposed to be releasing next year ?
Yeah , I did hear about that . I only heard like as far as like a rumor thing into it , but yeah , I did actually hear about that , so I'm pretty excited to see what it goes .
Yeah , I'm just not picking that up . I'm like really , huh , really funny how we're working on this now .
Yeah , so , yeah , it's going to be pretty cool to see how things go . But , yeah , they taught him how to survive , but they never taught him actually how to hurt anybody or how to hurt anything .
That's one of the reasons also why all his stuff pretty much fails all the time is because he wasn't taught to be that type of thing , and that's one thing I also keep in mind , too is that I actually watch a lot of videos of like dudes in prison and what they do and how they survive and stuff that happens and stuff like that , and one of the things that
I wound up picking up and learning is that a lot of dudes really you know , you've learned from being in there they actually don't want to go back . There's not like , oh , I choose to be prison , life and that like that .
No , they're there and they're like I made a mistake , I got to serve my time for it , I don't really want to be here , but this is what we at you know , yeah , that kind of thing , and so it's one of those being one of those real things and understanding that as well too , that I like how they kept that where it's like oh , they saw a baby , but they
took care of , they made sure that he was somewhat okay and stuff . They taught him how to survive , because he knew it was going to be a hard life .
And of one thing that just I really want to kind of point out and keep that in mind for the show as well , for this whole movie as well too , and I'm curious to see how they want to put in that in the show .
¶ Movie Plot and Character Discussion
But yeah , no , make a mind , a lot of his stuff was just simple mistakes and eventually he just wound up adopting that because at some point they just wound up saying , well , forget . He wanted to say forget it . I'm always a fuck up , I'm always messing up . My stuff is always messing up and going wrong . If I like somebody , they're always freaking out .
Also , one of the things too in the movie I know they wanted to have a little Reddit discussion some years back about the movie when it came out was the fact that nobody was ever freaked out about how they looked . I can pay attention .
Really it makes it feel at some point is you're like , oh , they're upset with him because he's like blue skin , yeah , normal stuff ? No , they really weren't like . They never did . It's the one of the things that's the thing .
I noticed that too . But also here's the thing I'm kind of jumping but considering , you know your limited time window I got to jump a little bit , the part where you know , make a mind was put on this masquerade to pretend to be Roxanne , partner Bernard .
When Roxanne find out his identity by you know fucking around with the watch , and she ran off make a mind on chase after her and you know , just for big reveal , oh , he caught feelings for her and she was like , oh , did you really think that I would be in love with someone like you ?
And here's the thing she never implied the blue skin and the big head and whatnot . She was only implying that she was a villain because she believed that she was such a , he was such a big villain that he was like nothing but pure evil and whatnot . But in reality you know that , megaman , even though he's the supervillain , he's actually not a bad guy .
He's not . It's like it's honestly , like I said , circumstances . It was circumstances that made him a supervillain . Therefore , in reality , look at his relationship with Minion , like they treat Minion like his best friend .
Almost like Minion is literally like the best sidekick .
I like the relationship . You know that one part where , okay , they're making Hal into Titan and they had to put on their uniforms and while Megamind had this more advanced you know advanced get up going on . It seemed like menu just put something on and then make my look that I'm For quick minutes , like what I'm like you look fantastic .
I like , I like that , for I like that's you . I love their relationship Like bro , you know . It's like you know . Oh , it looks a little like low budget , but I just like how he just encouraged it anyway . Like you know , you look good . You look good man .
Yeah , it's definitely one of those awesome things into it , but it's a theory that a pit , that , um , they're not you , that they're Already used to aliens and stuff like that , and there's probably like multiple heroes in multiple cities .
Nope , nope . Let's Another point I want to make . Was there really like only one hero in this city Because it didn't seem like any other here the fact that Mega mind was able to take over city that easily after Metro man quote-unquote died ? You mean some of those , no other heroes in the city ?
Think about it this way .
Keep in mind onto this one because and I'm gonna bring this up because there was a whole video a while back I'm not even a while back recent , pretty recently about it that I like oh , it was a classic man D on YouTube on the well , he's on multiple platforms , but I saw on YouTube where he was like did a video , and it was like who's stronger Omni man
or Metro man , and like I Even watch the video . I fully agree with what he said into this and I'm like Metro man , oh fuck .
Yeah .
Understand that .
Here .
Say homelander . No , no , no , I said Omni . Oh , omni man like my bad , I don't know what you know , they're almost like the same thing , like no no , no , no , no , but for real though , but no , it's like .
Characters no , no let's keep mine onto this one in the fact that literally , even for one prime example into this Metro , man has never taken damage from anyone ever Like no matter what . He's never taken damage Period .
And if you keep that in mind , as far as like , as far as like how things go into this , omni man took damage , yes , from like other heroes and stuff like that . But you know , some villains have managed to hurt built from , I have managed to hurt built from my series and stuff like that too . Um , omni man took no damage from nobody .
Nobody could hurt him at all period , literally to the point . Remember , dude move so fast that he had a midlife crisis in the middle of his super speed .
Wait , are we still talking about Omni man or Metro man ?
No , no , no , I'm talking about . I'm talking about as far as like , how , what with Metro ? Man , I'm trying to make a point into this one oh . So he , my Omni man , has never been all I . Only man has been hurt . Okay , metro man has never been hurt . Okay , metro man wound up having a whole fucking midlife crisis in the middle of super speed .
Literally everything around him moves so damn slow that he moves that because that everything he moves like the flash , like fucking , literally like the flash , right when literally it's like I Can move so fast that everything slows down . He sat there when he was supposed to be in his keep in mind on this , his weakness .
He's supposed to be weak to copper , but he was still able to break out of the copper prison . So obviously that's a lie . So we're gonna keep that in mind with this too .
I mean . Yeah , I Mean , I like how make make a mind was initially just so surprised like wait a minute , your weakness is copper .
Yeah , I was like that's that's gonna be enough .
That's gonna be enough baseball moment . Because you know only because you know with how smart mega mind is , you will think by now , like with a whole song , and dance like really , why haven't I think enough copper before I ?
Mean . But think about it in this aspect . Here it's like superman can't see through led . It's one of those weird why Technically like let you , can you can mean extra x-ray Raise can go through the land . So it doesn't really make sense .
but here coca-cola . So can we be real here ? Mega mind is to the superhero franchise , Ashrac is to the Disney franchise .
Truth , truth , truth . You're not wrong on that . You're not wrong at all .
Yeah . So it's really all Play a joke on the whole thing to where it's like you know these superhero tropes and whatnot name . Basically , megan might come around to be like a complete anti-theist . So that's where in this one , the bad guy is actually a fairly good guy .
When you know you get to know him , and meanwhile the bad guy is the quote-unquote Nice guy .
So yeah now , now we kind of get into these discussions , so pretty much understand like the simple plot . The story is very you know metraman . He eventually just gets tired of being a superhero and decides to leave mega mind , being ultimate villain , takes over the city and he's like , oh .
And then he gets disappointed because it was all too easy and he realized that his whole life was pretty much based on beating metraman . And now that metraman is gone and he won , what is left there ? So he decides to create a whole new metraman .
Man is just a snag , some DNA , which I find very funny in that aspect because remember , like I said before , you really pay attention to the whole movie . Metraman has never taken any type of damage , so where he got this DNA ? Pretty questionable .
No , no , it's a thing . They did say that Apparently he had dandruff and some of the dandruff got on his cape . Man , that's how mega mind just got the cape , you know , with the whole this cape Hugged on the skeleton . You know , metraman kind of threw in there , kind of make it look like he died .
So For some reason , I guess it was like a little dander on his cape and that's how he got the DNA . But even then I'm like , really , it was that easy . I mean , the same dude who can able to Create superpowers did not think of copper .
And I know , I know it's a simple kid show , but I'm just saying , for such a super genius , you're thinking like , okay , so you can create superpowers , but you never thought that your nemesis weakness could have been copper , which is not true .
But still , though , I Mean be honest with you . Let's be realistic , because I know you're on this copper thing for a minute , but let's be real .
I mean I'm done with the bomb .
To say Look , let's be honest on for this , without Superman just in a lesson , without some men telling someone this , you really think people would have figured out this if man couldn't see the land like real talk ?
This powerful alien that can fly , shoot laser beams out of his eyes Literally shows you that he could see through pretty much everything , just says , oh yeah , I also just can't see through . Let , if he doesn't tell you this , you really think people are gonna figure this out ?
No , no , no , that's a thing , that's a thing . I Realize this because that just brings up the whole point of how this movie is making fun of superhero Um tropes , to where you know what they're really doing and you just kind of thinking on From a villain see , that's the thing from a villain perspective .
This movie is making fun of the superhero Tropes from a supervillain's perspective . So I'm putting myself in mega mind shoes and thinking , damn , I need think of copper . Fuck , I'm stupid .
I'm just gonna know you're right , you're right , you are right . No way you just notice people like I would , I mean , and we think you're a little bit , I don't know . Figure that should I ? Yeah ? Yeah , most definitely , bro . I'm gonna be honest with you .
This let's be realistic onto this superhero is able to pick your ass up and take you like Millions of miles into the air and you're gonna think , oh , you know , I'm gonna experiment on my little outfits to see what my Experimental some of us gonna put him down that fucking . I wonder if you can just see through this , let's just .
Put my life on the line for that shit . Look , even superheroes make mistakes . Oh , it takes for him . One mistake in my life is over like hell fuck .
All right , I'll leave it , I'll leave a copper thing alone
¶ Analyzing Megamind's Character and Relationships
. But I'm just thinking , like damn , like , oh no , maybe I'm thinking a bit from a whole Overthinking things where , like damn , his weakness was so simple like I'm just kind of I feel stupid for not thinking of that .
That's that's the whole thing , is like yeah .
Yeah , it's like you just kind of feel like , really , copper , see , that's that's why I feel I felt that when he said that we was like really your weakness , copper , I like I Felt that honestly .
And it's also one of those things to be like , I don't know . To me it felt like bullshit . But yeah , he wants up making his own Um , what's it making his own villain , his own new superhero ? And I also say why is it choosing the worst person ?
Yes , okay , not only the worst person , but I like how , with the name it was supposed to be Titan , you know like attack on Titan , but it's actually spelled T I , th , t E N , as in like tighten up , and then you like saying , oh well , you know , I had to , that's the only name that I can come up with , you know , because copyright , you know how .
Supposed to be a joke . I'd real thought , but yeah but how ?
this dude , my god , you are coming off way too strong For a dude with no style , no muscle and no risk .
So his whole character was specifically written . I know I've sent you a video onto this one maybe of um who is it a cinema therapy , like I've been following it for years . I know I've mentioned them before .
I just got into them like I was really watching , like their videos on twilight and notebook and all that . Like you know what ? I got a lot of shit to say about these films now .
Right , and it's different because it's very different when you're hearing about it from a professional movie .
Therapist . That was like yeah .
Therapist yeah , that's like the perfect combination to like pristin , of a therapy like literally , like you able to break down . Writing stuff yeah .
I know we're not like professional , but considering that we are writers and we do have a therapist friend now , you like thinking I'm gonna have some like that going on .
I mean it'll be nice to typically play . You know we're gonna work that out . Yeah it's like so , it's like one of the things , like you know how they were able to break down the whole nice guy thing . So , yeah , literally understanding that was he was written to be that character , because , real talk , there are a lot of guys that do this shit .
Yeah , like like how , the issue with how is that you have some people , it's not just some guys . I actually know some women I have not know , but I know of some women that are like this as well too , and Mostly from guys that I know that have dated them and it's been it's a hard thing into that .
I'm just saying that there are a lot of people in the world that have this mindset that they're old , something that is like I am , if I do this , this is what's supposed to happen , type of thing , and it's like that's not always the case , like even when I'm like , for example , I'm talking to my kids about something hey , don't do this . Why can I do it ?
Because it's a chance you could really get hurt . You know , like , why I did it and I didn't get hurt , so I should be fine , right , I'm like no , I said . The thing about it is that , even though it didn't happen this time it could happen next time .
You can have a bunch of times that it doesn't happen and all it takes is one time that it happens and it could be really , really bad and like you just never know , is but so that there's a possibility of things .
But then there's people who always feel like they are guaranteed something and how always believe he's like I did , like he literally Kept saying is to Roxanne , where he's like I did this for you , I did this and I did this , but here I am always stuck in the friend zone and shit like that . And it's like brah , understand , you're not her type .
And then he decided to become a superhero . He's like okay , some Metro Man's your type . The superhero . Here I am now I'm a superhero . Am I your type now ?
No no , it's not even that and the funny thing is I like how he Was coming on so strong . He did not take any of the hints and whatnot . But here's the thing you know that with in a different Seen , that while Megamind was masqueraded as Bernard , roxanne told quote-unquote Bernard that oh yeah , no , like Metro man and I was never a thing .
You know , he's not really my type . Honestly , I don't even think I'm really into superheroes . You know , I just have a Plotonic respect for them . You know , because they're really doing the Lord's work , you know , saving our city and whatnot . You know , I just have a Plotonic respect for two years .
I'm not trying to date them and I mean choose a reporter that's a real reporter , not like Lois Lane . But I will say on one thing in this aspect I can give some defense . In Lois Lane now , for the new Superman series is different , which I'm gonna kind of like and submit a lowest . Not definitely not that either .
In most comic iterations Lois always Flirts with clients . It's a it's a literal news reporter tactic to get more information . If someone's into you , they're gonna wind up talking to you more and you're able to get more dirt out of us . That's just how it works . Wow , they're the assassins do it . Reporters do it . It's a real thing .
Strippers yeah , exactly no , for real , though . Like this and do that , would like . Strippers literally will say that they hear all types of stories because the men are very relaxed With them , or even some women are very relaxed with them , and we'll just say stuff , because when your mind is high on sex , you , your mouth keeps talking . That's just what happens .
So , but no , for real . It's like Lois doesn't always . She always does those little things and you know , some stuff kind of happens . It just know she happened to wind up catching feelings at that time because she's had a chance of interviewing a person over and over and over again . By that point you really started dating this person .
I've been really really talking and now you're trying to get start dating . This was things kind of going to play Roxanne . She was that reporter that was like she was never Hitting on Metro man whatsoever type of thing . She was never really into him like that . She was like , eh , she was just like I'm just doing my job , that's literally .
Yeah , you can see that in the movie too , but how would never get that . He was always like oh , she's always just wanting to talk to him and stuff . Yeah , she's actually doing her fucking job . That's literally what the fuck it is . But you're not seeing that .
Your mind is so strong up on the fact that you deserve this , you should have this , and it's like bro , you've got to chill the fuck out .
No , no , he reminded you of how some people can have such a huge crush on somebody that they can't really Gloss over the details . Like you could have learned more about her if you just chill the fuck out and actually listen to her .
Honestly . Yeah , that was one thing too , even as report . He'll always get upset and wouldn't listen , like you always keep making suggestions and even she said no , he would never listen to why , like he was just he would come up with an assumption and be like that's just what it is , isn't ?
He was trying to make her Hang out with him and he couldn't take the hint that , no , I'm not really feeling that bad oh you can't take the hint that you're over pushing at this point .
You you're trying to be nice , but now you're making people uncomfortable . I bet it's a point into that , to where you can be so nice that you're uncomfortable To be around because at some point right you know longer feels like you're really being nice for the sake of being nice . It feels like you're nice for the sake of getting something .
Oh , that's something a lot , especially for a lot of women Really , are really fucking afraid of , because it's like that real thing of like you being so nice but what's gonna happen if I say no , like there's no real tell about what's going on .
¶ Navigating Modern Dating Dynamics
There's a lot of women nowadays to where if a guy asked for the phone number , the girl gives him the note Like we'll give her . Give him her real number , not even as a sign of like , oh , I want to be with you , nothing like that , but we'll give her a real number and then when you call , block it or something like that .
No it's like the right of what the fuck ? What happened ?
The fact that he would assume that oh he gave her . She gave me the number . She must be feeling you , dog , no .
No , exactly . And how was that ? Literally that person like he he'd once he got power . That's even when you know specific , you know say power . When someone gets power , the true per , their true personality comes out . I think they did say that in sentiment there too , but you see this in a lot of you know that was saying that .
I think Lincoln said it to where it's like if you want to test a man's character , give him power .
Yes and that's absolute truth , because when a man has a power to control things , it truly decides of what it is that they like , how that person really is into that , and that's what was one of the things that , well , I could say I can even appreciate one of , like the game Sims .
Like in the game Sims , you make a character , or make several characters , you can make a family , you can make a single person , whatever the case may be , and you dictate what happens in this entire character's life , from beginning to their death , is your control of every fucking thing .
No , I'm sorry , but I'm still rolling at the one time when you're like , bro , I don't , I don't know I can fuck with the sim . I just feel like people who played the sim have got .
Complex Like this is a thing , though , but understanding to for some people it's kind of a skate thing like , and I get that point too into that , but for me I'm just saying like it feels too much like a God complex and I don't like it .
Like I don't like having that much power , like even for me with my kids , like I'm raising my kids and Like I dictate what , what my kids eat and stuff . I dictate like the time that they get washed up and go to bed and things like that .
I think no , that we get married to me . How many kids you ?
have see . No , that's the thing .
I thought God damn like you do so much shit now , but I'm like Look , it is like , when you think about it , like you can either just chance it out to where the AI , where the um , the all the AI inside the game just will randomly generate Random characters and stuff and you can , and you can either choose to just be introduced to this character and then
have them Like date and make a family , whatever , or you can say , fuck , I don't like how the AI generated sit , so I'm gonna create my own character for this person . I'm gonna make this relationship you dictate when they have sex .
I do just come on like give me the pussy when I want the pussy , okay , rich . How fucking dare you say that to that woman ?
they do this is the real shit . But this is literally what it is . It's so yeah , like that's reason why I can't fuck around the same . Like that . I'm like I don't like this . It's just not for me , like .
I'm like I can't do that wait .
And so it's like I get . Some people may like it , but to me it does . I just can't feel too much like a guy come Please . I'm like I don't like this .
You know what you know . I'm just gonna put you like this , gentlemen specifically listening to this , listen If a girl's not feeling you , that's just it .
Let it be .
Okay , thank you . It think about . Think of it like this there could have been nothing wrong with you . You could have been a solid dude . It's not like you're ugly or Boring or anything like that , it's just he's just not feeling you , dog , because the world is way bigger than that . You don't want to end up being that one guy who has like one item .
It's just can't move on to other women , because even then that just shows like Insecurity and a scarcity mindset to where , oh , you're stuck on this one woman that you just can't be bothered to Mingle with other women so you can find someone who could have been better suited for you .
Because , who the fuck knows , if you so obsessed with this one girl that there could have been a lot of girls that was more Compatible with you and you just glossed over them because you got this one item for this one girl , maybe cuz she did something for you that got you obsessed . But that just doesn't look good , man .
We just makes you look Minstly sick and that's just gonna be red flat .
I'm trying to be nice team , but same time .
I gotta be honest with you .
Gotta be honest , like for real , and look , I've done like I've kind of been on that side . I didn't like look , if anything in that point , gentlemen , gentlemen .
Love her enough to let her be with whoever she wants to be with . There you go .
But yeah , I've been on that point specifically , man , Like I have had a lot of girls in my life that I really like and I asked out many of them and was turned down by my turn down by many of them . Yeah , that's it . You move forward like I had a girl that I knew since I was , since we were child .
Well , like we grew up we went to kindergarten , everything together got in the middle school . I asked her I was like , look actually like you , I would like you'd be my girlfriend . She was honest to me , said to be honest with you , you really know what you know . There , you go , go .
Example Johnny Bravo , you know . True and it's like , bro , like don't even with him being like as muscular and Somewhat charming as he is , I'm like a lot of girls just wasn't feeling man . He just kept it pushing and eventually he didn't find some girls that was feeling him , but you know it didn't work out .
But See , that's a whole different situation now . Hold on Now . Johnny was one of the ones that he didn't always walk away . Most cases he did most . There was some times that he was kind of bit pushy and they had to let him know he was True . So remember , that's the reason why a lot of times he gets pepper sprayed all the fucking time .
Yeah right .
But , no , but . But in most cases he did want to walk away . If he went up he said he shot a shot . She said no to walk the way , and then but usually they always said no immediately in some cartoonish way , pepper sprayed them , give him a flip around , toss him away and shit like that . He was like huh , thanks , you like me .
Well , whatever , I kind of move forward , but it's a whole funny trope .
But he was still kind of respect , mainly that whole dynamic where you know the whole dynamics where it doesn't it's not gender exclusive but it's like , oh , if they're being like mean to you or you know a little antagonist , you know like you're arguing like a old married couple , is like they just take that as a good sign .
It's like , oh , maybe I should pursue . I'm like no , sometimes they just don't like you and they're making it very obvious . See , that's the kind of messy thing about the dating markets when it's like they make it look like sometimes no means yes and yes means no and a whole bunch of crazy shit .
So I'm okay , I need to take a step back and what kind of but also some important dimension too for a lot of guys Mostly guys are a lot of women that do this as well too , but it's mostly guys that we're really starting to see
¶ Navigating Dating Rejections and Mixed Signals
it into . Nowadays , you have to make it okay for the other person to say no . Like I mentioned before , is a lot of women who Go through certain stuff as a defense mechanism , like giving the phone . There's a lot of men that don't like said , don't like answer no , and there's a lot of women who get killed specifically for that .
We're kidnapped and raped and it's a horrible thing like that should not happen . You should be comfortably able to accept the answer no , he don't . And how did not ? He would not accept no , he kept pushing that's my thing .
Can I say personally ? that when I got rejected by girls , at least most of them was like straight up with me . It's like they were saying , oh well , you're cool and all , but only like you as a friend , or oh well , I just don't think you're my type or whatnot . And I see they would just be straight up and I'm like , okay , I can respect that .
But it's when you like the whole mix signals part just to because you don't Trust how I'll respond to a straight up rejection . I'm like , yeah , I can kind of understand why people would feel confused . It's like they're more confused than mad .
But the point being is that sometimes you got understand that some people are only trying to lay you down gently so that way they're not trying to be at risk of getting killed or whatever , because of what misunderstanding or whatnot .
So I can't understand it from both sides to where sometimes the ladies gotta do what they got to do to protect themselves because they don't trust you . They don't even know you well enough to trust your emotional maturity with the come to be things .
So , to be fair , you got understand that they got it , deployed , some sort of defense mechanism to protect their own interest in your Health and all that shit . But the same time I can kind of understand how some guys can be confused , if not pissed off , when they get these mixed signals about oh , does she like me or not ?
And they just like I and they just like getting patient or whatnot . And that's another thing . It's like you got have that emotional maturity to where you can kind of Assess the situation . Be like you know what , if she's not sure of me , then Best bet , don't pursue . Like you can still be friends with her . That's cool . Men and women can be friends .
But if it's not obvious that she's feeling you like that , just best bet , just Be friends . And if something happens later , then let it happen . Naturally , don't force it , don't be pushy like how , okay , gentlemen , don't assume that just because , oh , you got power .
Or in real terms like say , for instance oh , you got money , now you hit in the gym and whatnot , your got your looks on point . Just because you got all that , your personality can still be shitty and they're not gonna feel you at all .
My dude , like you can still be Mostly immature and they're not gonna feel you because you may have done the work on the outside , but you didn't do the work on the inside , and that's how main problem he didn't do the work on the inside .
It's true there's a lot , of , a lot of things about this is that it becomes this big thing Understanding , and I understand , because also it gets real confusing when you look at online , like the internet's the worst . It's out there , yeah , like you . Like you see these guys go interview people .
What's what's the type of man you , what's the type of man you want to date ? What are the ? What are the requirements they have to have ? Oh , they got to be tall . They have to have a whole lot of money , they have to drive a nice car and have guys . It's okay . If you don't have all of that , I promise you , no , not all women are asking for that .
Yes , it's common for a lot of women , but that's the people . That's the women that's asking for voicing it . There's some women that's like low key about it because that's just a thing , low key lifestyle , so they don't have to broadcast their needs you know it's .
One of the craziest things about it is , too , is that there was a woman one time that , like one , I'm getting slander for this because I did it . They did . So . What's the type of man that you want ? I want this one , this one , this one , this one , this , and I want this one , this .
But then I think it was like they Ranted to this girl later on and she was dating a guy who had damn you're none of the requirements that she said it had to be , and so one of the things that she was honest about was that you know , sometimes you get a guy that has all this and then they have , like this big ego about them because it like why I got
all this , I should get whatever girl I want and the girls should do whatever I , whatever I want . No , like , that's not the way I like . I like having some type of control , I like having control of myself too .
And then you kind of realize that , hey , you know , if I want to actually have some type of freedom , I don't need to have a person that has that type of power over me . Like , I mean , there needs to be some type of balance into that , and that's what you . You grow and realize that , like you have to mentally grow to understand .
Now see , not trying to preach to y'all , what not ? But now I got talked to the ladies that might be listening to where . Ladies , I'm gonna be honest with you . You can have these standards and it's okay , but keep in mind Just because he checks all your boxes , does it ?
mean that check ? Yeah , that do that right there . It's always been the truth man .
It's like they find this man and they find out they don't even make the cut , for in fact they Look the double standard around it . This is one of my favorite double standards how they Say that a man got to be this , that in the third . But when , when it comes to a man and his standards is like oh , just take them as they are .
And the thing is that really depends on how they're built , in other words , like okay , they have a healthy mindset and whatnot , or they like Can I trust them to not trying to fuck me over , trying to move into my house and shit , trying to take all my assets and what not trying to leech off me and shit . Can't trust them not to do that .
You know , that's where the thing . And if they're like a very decent girl , then cool , but that's just a thing . Is like you mean to tell me that I'm not even allowed to have even a sense of discernment or whether or not this woman might fuck me over Just because she's attracted to me ? Like that's just the thing .
Is like that's why you got to have like standards , boundaries , got laid down , some brown rules and all that , and Sometimes , yeah , yeah like you take their cells , you know .
Yeah , but no , it's um but that's just like .
Oh , right now , but I know , buddy , my point being trying to wrap that part up was ladies , if you think you getting rejected is bad , imagine the reality of man to where we are conditioned to be rejected .
And hear me out when I say that , because at least with men we because we're supposed to be like the pursuers in relationships we have to live with the reality of getting rejected like right out of the gate .
It's more rare for a woman to get rejected than it is for a man , so therefore it's like I can kind of say how they will feel some type of way way more when a woman gets rejected , but just imagine how we feel when we are being just rejected for the same reasons . It's all about empathy , people .
But it's also . It's gonna be just that thing of growth , understanding that you're gonna get no a hundred times .
You hear this phrase a lot , especially a lot of it also miss a hundred percent of shots you don't take exactly all this is try it like life was .
Life is full of heartbreak . There's nothing you can do about it . That will happen . You will get your heart broken because that's part of growing in life , like everything is part of growing in life , literally as human beings .
One of the things that I've actually just recently come to realize and is the fact that One of the scariest things about being a human being is the fact that not just being human being but being a live period is that we can't survive unless we consume the life force of something else , like real talk . You can't live unless you .
And Just , and I know you're running low on time , but can we wrap this up with another mega mine point , like Me is awesome .
Yeah , the movie's great .
Highly recommended . I would say 4.5 .
Yeah , I think that's a fair one because it's a great movie to go back and watch with your kids . It's a great movie to literally just go back and watch and just have fun . It's a good rating . I agree on that one . The only thing for me that probably make it a little bit better is that it does kind of feel rushed .
But you know , maybe the pacing was Because when you were saying , with all the editing , I see that's . That's the thing if they kept some of the parts in and made it a little longer . Five out of five stars .
But then who would really watch a kids movie that long in 2010 ?
true , true . With that being said , remember the difference between a villain and a supervillain is Presentation . You got really be about it . So , and that's the whole thing , with all being a nice guy , what not you trying to be this Golden retriever of a man , you got to be really about that shit . You can't fake it .
And with guys like how , it's gonna be very obvious that you're faking being a nice guy . And also , like I said before , sometimes the bad boy is not a bad dude , sometimes he just matters circumstances , her , and that's pretty much encapsulate the whole thing . Oh yeah , metro man deciding to be music man .
Now he decided , you know , I'm kind of done with this whole super hero stick , so I'm just gonna decide to focus on music . I'm like good for you man . He kind of pulled a Jack Skellington , but it's up . He kind of stuck to this one and stuff . You know , just trying it out and nothing gets jacked .
But I'm just saying like he kind of remind me of Jack is up , he actually stuck to music versus like going back to be superhero . So I like his art . It's like Mega Mind had a positive change arc Titan had a negative change arc .
Metro man more like a flat change art to where he had little to no character growth , but it was in a step in the right direction . But I'm gonna say that was the whole arc . It was just more like he just retired . That's it . That was his whole art . He just retired .
Yep , but I will say one of things about is to why you were saying this and , yeah , I really take it . Um . One of things I also appreciate into this aspect too , because it was a question that always came back when Titan Wanda up taking over the city and was doing all this nonsense , causing all this mass mayhem of destruction .
Why is it that Metro man didn't come back and it's a very , very good point that was mentioned , so why it is that he didn't come back at that point ? First off , it'll come off that he lied , that he faked his death . That's already one thing . That Was a big issue .
The second thing into this is that he would never see freedom again by that point ever , because the biggest issue is with people who rely on someone to care for them . You no longer have freedom anymore .
Your entire yeah , like your entire existence is based upon saving these people and doing everything for them , and so anytime there's an issue , it's okay , you're gonna be here . It's okay , you're gonna be here . And superheroes face that shit all the time . You see that in all other movies they face this .
Y'all the time is like all it takes is you not saving one person , and then people will literally forget all the Hundreds of other people that you saved . You could save a hundred people . You save 99 people . You missed one . You will be remembered for the fact that you failed to save that one .
They were pretty much like what the green goblin told spider-man and spider-man one . It's like they all love a hero until we fail .
Exactly , exactly . That is always the case . Everything is your fault . You managed to succeed 100% is your fault great . But you fail . 1% is your fault . You always help on today , and so it's like he had to let it go Like he
¶ Burden of Freedom in the City
had to . He was like the whole city would be destroyed . This was my city , but that's the key phrase . What is my city ? It's not my city . No more , I'm done by . Come back . I will never be able to step out again . It will never happen ever . I Will always be held on that standard . In death he received freedom .
It's a fake death , but the death nonetheless that he received freedom . In regards of how Roxanne and Megamind was upset with them About that , in the end they kind of understood . They understood . They're like you know what ? You can't just go up to people like I'm retiring , no longer be a mentor anymore . Good luck you guys . People would hate him .
You know , matter where he goes , he will always face like rejection shit versus .
It'll be like Superman telling Batman and the Justice League movie you won't let me live and you won't let me die .
Exactly , exactly . So it's like there's a point into that , like there's a point of freedom . That kind of happens and that note . That's all I got to say . I don't have a lot more love to say on to it , but again , we ran on time . I do have to get off . So yeah , that's what I .
Well , with that being said , thank you , ladies and gentlemen , for listening to us . You already know the drill I'm not gonna even go into that drill all over again .
I just want to wish you all a great day , night , afternoon , whatever time you are listening to this , remember to stay nerdy and remember to never let the nostalgia die , because it is nerdy , nostalgic November . We are zoning out , so take it easy .