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Magic the Gathering (Modern Horizons 3): Booster Packs, Budget Building, and the Year of the Eldrazi

Jun 14, 20241 hr 28 minSeason 14Ep. 13
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What if your next Magic: The Gathering deck could be built on a budget without sacrificing power or complexity? In this episode of the ZONE Podcast, our dynamic hosts JetBlackXtreme, Saitama Smash, Talos Gundam, and Tattooed Enigma explore the thrilling intricacies of Modern Horizons 3. Tattoo kicks things off with a riveting recount of his luck opening booster packs, pulling game-changing cards like Ugin's Binding and Emrakul, the World Anew. Saitama Smash shares his latest strategies in Puerto Rico using his newly upgraded Wilhelt the Rotcleaver deck, while Talos delves into the return of the Eldrazi and breaks down the power of Ugin's Labyrinth and the new Ulamog, the Defiler!

We take you on an electrifying journey through the latest cards that are shaking up the Magic community. Our hosts dissect the game-altering potential of Echoes of Eternity and its unbeatable combos. From utilizing common cards like Basking Broodscale to the strategic depth of Springheart Nantuko, this discussion is a treasure trove of insights. Experience the joy of remarkable pulls from recent packs and learn how the new Six card is pushing the boundaries of gameplay, allowing non-land permanents to retrace.

In the latter half, we tackle the financial realities of competitive Magic: The Gathering. From the exhilarating highs of pulling a valuable card in a local game store to the expensive lows of constructing a top-tier deck, our hosts share personal anecdotes and strategies. Whether you're assembling a budget-friendly Krenko goblin deck or splurging on powerful artifacts like the Sword of Wealth and Power, we offer creative solutions to enhance your gameplay without breaking the bank. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to elevate their Magic: The Gathering experience, regardless of budget.

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Modern Horizons 3 Card Discussion

Speaker 1

What's good nerds ? It's JetBlack Extreme and the Zone Podcast is back at it again with another episode . This time I want to talk about Magic the Gathering Now with me . Today we have Saitama Smash , we have Talos Gundam and we have Tattooed Enigma joining us as we're going about modern horizon 3 specifically .

With that being said , let's go ahead and get active and zone in on this . So for starters , tattoo you understanding that you have a booster box . What you pull from it , buddy ?

Speaker 2

well , I'm about halfway through the box . I'm gonna open the rest of it as we continue this discussion . I'm trying to sort out some of my rares and mythics that I pulled as we speak .

But one of my highest dollar pulls that I have so far is an Ugin's Black Knight , so that was a nice surprise to pull yeah , hell yeah , okay , okay , and Sight Thomas Match .

Speaker 1

I understand that you're in the middle of a game right now , correct ?

Speaker 3

You are correct . Currently we are in the island of Puerto Rico In the wonderful store of Yahtzee and we are currently playing cards from Modern Horizons 3 . Currently I'm using my Will Hell deck , which I just finished upgrading , giving one of the zombie shamans that came out of the Modern Horizons 3 set what it does . It pays one life .

Sacrifices a creature and you get a treasure token , and I currently have Gravecrawler . Sacrifices a creature and you get a treasure token , and I currently have Gravecrawler out on the battlefield and I'm hoping that on this next draw because I can draw two I'm going to get this card .

If not , I'm going to tutor it and I'm going to bring it out on the battlefield and I'm just going to go nuts .

Speaker 1

Hell yeah , hell yeah , all right . So , ladies and gentlemen , listening , here's how we're going to do this . While Tattoo get his pulls in order and Sight Summit Smash , chime in here and there , I'm also going to chime in here and there on some specific cards that I'm interested in .

But , talos , if you will tell us what's the deck list , what's the card list for Modern Horizons 3 ?

Speaker 2

So let me hit y'all with something real quick . So for those of y'all that don't know if you've been on the rock somewhere , modern Horizons 3 has brought back the Eldrazi . So , I want you to understand my love and Hate for the Eldrazi . I love to play them , but I hate playing against them , yeah , so I want that to be known Now , mind you right .

Speaker 3

I so .

Speaker 2

I'm going to , I'm going to do this relatively . Let's say , um , we're going to go . I'll say , basically by the uh , I guess by by how Pricey they are . I want y'all to know Something right , a lot of these very good ones , a lot of these very good ones Right now .

It's some lovely , lovely beings In here , but one I want to particularly harp on right now Is a land card which is Ugin's Labyrinth Hold up Tattoo .

Speaker 1

didn't you pull Ugin's Labyrinth ? Hold up Tattoo . Didn't you pull Ugin's Labyrinth ?

Speaker 2

I did . I do have an Ugin's Labyrinth . It's not a super pretty one , it's just a regular border , but I do have an Ugin's Labyrinth Hell yeah . Now this card . For those of y'all that don't know what it does it has imprint when it enters the battlefield . You can exile a colorless card with a mana value of 7 or greater from your hand .

You can tap it and add a code . If a card exiled with Ugin's Labyrinth , you can add double that code . Instead , you can also tap it and return the exiled card to its owner's hand . Ladies and gentlemen , I want y'all to know that that's going to be so good for certain .

Speaker 3

Let me tell you , I just got hit with the new Ullabong and I had to exile . Dude , I had to exile half of my library .

Speaker 1

Hold on hold on , hold , on hold on all of these are , let's talk about this new ula um , by the way , ulamad to the fire . First of all , he's like anywhere between , like I want to say , on the low end , 83 , on the high end it's cracked about $115 .

Speaker 2

Now .

Speaker 1

Tattoo Did you pull one by chance ?

Speaker 2

Not yet , but listen to this there's a guy at my local game shop who , I swear , has a horseshoe up his ass Because he bought A collector box and a play booster box and he pulled all three variants Of the fucking Duel Box . So let's see , right now I have a pricing list currently , and this is the rough estimate pricing list in USD .

Oh shit , I'm sorry , I just pulled Emrakul , oh shit , oh shit , he pulled my boy . No , no , no . Hold on hold on Tattoo .

Speaker 1

Tell us , oh , my boy no no , no , hold on hold on Tattoo . Tell us about Emrakul .

Speaker 2

Oh shit , okay . So Emrakul the world anew . He's a 12 colorless . He's a 12-12 . He says when you cast this spell , gain control of all creatures' target player controls . And then it says Flying protection from spells and from permanents that were cast this turn . And then it says when Emrakul the world anew leaves the battlefield , sacrifice all creatures you control .

Madness , pay six colorless . Yeah , gotta love it yeah , I love , I love that as my commander . But commander next , I want y'all to know that . So , real quick , since we got Emrakul up here , let me give y'all a pricing list right on the low end , on the low end right Emrak , low end on the low end right Emerald Coast . At best on the low end is $61.

, $61. , $61 . But on the high end , $90 .

Speaker 1

Yes , yeah .

Speaker 2

On the high end $90 .

Speaker 1

But think about it though , because , like , of course , he probably had some value Before Modern Horizon 3 , but If anything , modern Horizon 3 gave it More value than ever , so I can kind of see it being that price .

Speaker 2

Most definitely right . But going back To Ulamog , going back to Defiler himself , now , defiler himself right , he's at the Lowest , 73 , but the highest right now , and I'm talking about you , need to pull from the bottom horizon , set number 476 . So the high end it'll be 118 .

I'm going to tell you this now this yeah , ulamog , is he's going gonna give you back your buck for at least Any sets that you crack open ?

Speaker 1

Now , speaking of which Saitama , you were Telling me about the flare spells , like there's one of each color and , to my understanding , tattoo , you pulled at least two of them now , right ?

Speaker 2

Yes , I pulled the Red flare and I pulled the red flare and I pulled the black flare . Let me sort through my pile real quick and I'll read them out to you , but I'm kind of hoping . I don't know . I got Twelve , eleven or twelve packs Left . I don't know if I'll pull the other Three , but if I can get one of each I'd be pretty happy .

So you've got the black flare . It is called flare of malice . Uh , it's two and uh , two black , and it's uh . It says you may sacrifice a non-token black creature rather than pay this spell's mana cost . And then it says each opponent sacrifices a creature or planeswalker with the greatest mana value among creatures and planeswalkers they control .

So you know that's gonna , that's just gonna do absolutely ridiculous shit in any kind of sacrifice thing that , the one that everybody loves to hate . You know that would just do absolute work in that . And then you have the red flare , the flare of duplication , for one in two mountains , of course .

You may sacrifice a non-soaking red creature rather than pay the spells mana cost . And then it says copy target , instant or sorcery spell . You may choose new targets for that copy . So just overall , good stuff so far . I'm really hoping , like I said , to pull the other three . We'll see . You got a couple packs left oh yeah , oh yeah .

Speaker 1

Now hold on . I can't let that uh , turggrit . Comment slide because honestly , I feel like the cops from that one Spongebob episode where I like to show people Turgrit got a fright to people and just watch them go . Anytime I see Turgrit out on the battlefield .

Speaker 3

Dude , that shit . She just gives me nightmares , bro , like she does put the beard in Like okay , you can use my cards now what ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , see .

Speaker 3

I had a .

Speaker 2

Turgrit deck , but I had to pull her apart because I don't mind being targeted , but it's like it's one of those situations where , like people would go out of their way to target me just because I had her as my commander and she's she's definitely a mean commander but at the same time she's not unbeatable .

Speaker 1

I mean all you gotta do is I have to , uh , add turgid in as a secret boss , you know , like my commander . Okay , my commander is like mid-range , like he's not he or she's not really that much of a threat it nah . It's what's in the 99 , though oh yeah , dude , absolutely .

Speaker 2

And I mean like uh , my buddy has a tiny bones deck and he puts ergrid in there . Oh my god , oh man , I love that new Tiny .

Speaker 1

Bones man .

Speaker 2

Mm-hmm , the new one's nice .

Speaker 1

Yeah , Now hold on . I want to talk about the one card . Hold the green flare . Oh , hell , yeah , hell yeah . All right , man , you're getting your value back already .

Speaker 2

Most definitely getting your value back .

Speaker 1

Yeah , now hold on

Discussion on New Magic Cards

. I want to talk about the one card that started it all for me , the one card that started it all for me , the one card that inspired this discussion . Let's talk about how they decided that instead of tribal , they're going to do kindred spells now , and the one in particular y'all already know Echoes of Eternity .

Now , this is a kindred Enchantment to Eldrazi's . If a triggered ability of a Colossus spell you control , or another Colossus permanent you control , triggers , that ability triggers an additional Time , and whenever you cast a Colossus spell , copy it . You may choose New targets for the copy .

You mean to tell me we have A fucking roaming Throne , except you can pretty much copy spells and abilities at the same time . Holy shit . Now imagine having a microsyth lattice and then pretty much everybody can benefit from all . Well , on your side of the field at least Is it on your side yeah , creature's you control .

So , yeah , you can use Microset Lattice to make all the whole field colors , but you will get the benefit from having Echoes of Eternity on there .

Speaker 3

Holy shit .

Speaker 1

And um , another one , the uh , baskin-brew skill . It's a common . But , man , the fucking combo you can do with uh , fucking , uh , rose cotton .

Um , we talked About this tattoo to where , essentially , you do infinite Um one , one counters and spit out infinite Eldrazi spawns that you sacrifice it and you get one colorless Um , mana , and I'm like , bro , like and bro , it's a common too . That's the funny part too . Like , just imagine you got beat by a common .

How rare was Rosecon again , like I want to say I think it's uncommon .

Speaker 3

Yeah , see .

Speaker 1

I'm thinking uncommon or rare .

Speaker 2

I've got that card in one of my decks . I could tell you if I ran and got it .

Speaker 1

Alright . So another card , and I know you pulled this one tattoo , I want it Ringheart Nantuko . So , essentially , what they did is they decided to make scoop swarm into a fucking enchantment creature . So essentially , you have a bestow uh one man uh coalesce and one uh force , and Essentially , you enchant a creature .

And whenever you have Landfall , like whenever you play a land , you essentially pay One of any Colossus and the forest to create A copy of the creature that's enchanted . But if you Don't pay that mana , you just Instead create one1 inset token . Now hold on with Kodama , the East Tree combo . Like I talked about the East Tree combo Before .

But I'm just saying , if I add that to any of my Creatures while I have that Engine out there , that means I'm literally like fucking Shino Amarame from Naruto . I'm just swarming the whole battlefield with incense , mm-hmm .

Speaker 2

Absolutely , wouldn't it be ?

Speaker 3

better to bestow it on the Swarm and then have a copy of the Swarm , then do the combo . I mean , yeah , the fact , of the matter is there's a bunch of different .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I mean it works on so many different cards , but like definitely on scootswarm . You would think , yeah , that's like the main go-to is like just uh , makes scootswarm even more . Like bro , like it's bad enough to where , if you got scootswarm out early game , you're getting focused , you are getting focused .

Speaker 2

Oh yeah , absolutely so . Not to detract from the current conversation , but I finished opening all my packs , happy to report , pulled one of each flare .

Speaker 1

So I have all five flares .

Speaker 2

To finish up , I pulled A sapphire medallion , I pulled a jet medallion . I got a nehire Medallion . I pulled a Jet Medallion for it . I got a Necro Bloom and then there were so many cards spoiled for this that I forgot this card . But I pulled it . So I'm actually kind of happy . We've got Disruptor Flute Artifact for two .

Flash as Disruptor Flute enters the battlefield . Choose a card . Name spells with the chosen name cost three more to cast . Activated abilities of sources with the chosen name can't be activated unless they are mana abilities . The amount of buffoonery that you can use that card for oh yeah , oh um .

Speaker 1

Let me talk about two cards Like . One of them is one that that's on my hit list . Y'all remember Ren and Six , right ? So this time around they printed Six Like it's a legendary creature treefolk . Two , any , any color . One of fours . It has reach . It has Two power , four , toughness . Here's the thing Whenever it's six attacks , you mill Three cards .

You may put One land card among them Into your hand . But this is the second Part that I really like . As long as it's your turn non-land permanents you have your graveyard , have retraced . So in other words , you discard a card and you pay the mana cost to essentially , uh , replay the card that's in the graveyard .

Now , if it's anything like me to where I have an infinite mana energy going on , that cost doesn't really matter to me . What matters is I have to keep sacking a land into my hand . But with the deck that I have , land is an expendable resource To a point where I can have an Evolving Wiles or a Terramorphic Expanse in my hand .

I'm like whatever , I'm not going to miss this land . I'm like sure I'll retrace with this fucking evolving walls and then have some bullshit where I just pull it right back into my hand and I'm like I'll just have retrace for days . So I kind of like that .

But with ren and six it's still valuable because you get to create an emblem to where instances and sorceries have retraced now . Hold on now . Instances , that's great , but with sorceries have retraced Now . Hold on Now . Instances , that's great , but with sorceries , you're thinking like , oh well , you can't play sorceries on your opponent's turn .

I got two words for you Bedalken Hori .

Speaker 2

That is insane . Yep . Most definitely Real quick because I'm saying it like it is , Look like I said . Most definitely real quick because I'm saying it like it is , look like I said . I've been going through this whole entire set list and I don't care if some of y'all don't like me right now . You know I am a blue black , blue green .

I'm typically a blue blade , you know , because financial war crimes .

Speaker 1

But I want y'all to understand something . No , no , to be fair though , I do like Simic , I do like Simic , oh yeah .

Speaker 2

Flare of denial . Once again , that flare of denial . Right , Look the things I can do in this blue black deck oh , okay , I the things I can do in this blue-black deck oh okay , I'm sacrificing .

Speaker 1

I mean Dimir is also fun , so I can't fault you for Dimir .

Speaker 2

Like I said , sacrifice a non-token blue creature rather than pay the spell's amount of cost . I ain't got to pay this cost , I pay no cost to counter oh , oh , you're out of luck , and then , in blue-black , I can get the monsters back . Oh , the financial crimes I'm going to commit .

Oh , and then lovely , and once again , like I say , right , don't let me have an Eldrazi as my commander , especially in particular , emrakul .

Speaker 1

Okay , hold on . Hold on .

Speaker 2

I'm paying with every monster you just gave me .

Speaker 1

Hold on . I'm glad you mentioned that , sela . Let me talk about Eldrazi , real quick , kozolid , the broken reality , yes , the broken reality Now with a 9-9 , and when you cast this spell , up to two target players each manifest two cards from their hands . For each card to manifest this way , you draw a card . Other colored creatures you control .

Get plus three plus two . Yeah , beefy boy , yeah . Speaking of which , keep in mind that I can 3D print plus plus and minus minus die so if you need that , I'm your boy . Just hit me up Jet Black Extreme on Instagram and TikTok , or just check out Zell's Nerd Entertainment on Facebook . You can find me .

Speaker 2

By the way , people , I want y'all to understand something , because for those of y'all that don't know and this is not me plugging these to the people but there's a group of individuals on TikTok that literally make proxies . So you know , if you can't afford these things , they make a very nice in the proxies .

They have a very nice Dragon Tribal deck in particular . That is so cute , it's so adorable , they're proxies to it and they're so adorable . So if you and your friends are not , you know those types of people . Ew , brother , ew about proxies and y'all want to play y'all like don't mind playing with proxies and stuff . Hey guess what ? Grab them .

Speaker 1

Now hold on Saitama . Didn't you get some proxies not too long ago with Jewel , lotus and a whole bunch of shit ? Oh well , he's still in the game . So yeah , he's probably still in the game .

Speaker 2

He's still in the game , so yeah , he's probably still in the game . Oh , he's probably in the thick of it right now yeah , I feel that , but yeah , no problem like . Most definitely , I say pick up proxy .

But , ladies and gentlemen , going back to it , right , you know , I'm just , I'm a person who wholeheartedly will sit here and tell you hey , hey , I , I , I , I , I . We have cookies over here on the dark side .

Speaker 3

Come on , come on .

Speaker 2

Look come come come to the side of it . Come over here with us to the Eldrazi it's OK . It's OK , come over . Come on over here , blues . We love our people over here in the blues and green . You know what I'm saying . As a matter of fact , I'm one of those people that like to play hug .

Speaker 1

Oh sure you like to play hug until you stab them in the back while you're hugging them Speaking of which now talking about fucking Kudo , the king among bears , to where other creatures have base power and toughness of 2-2 and are bears in addition to the other side .

But if you pair that with Elish Norn's grand Cenobite , they get negative 2 , negative 2 , so you pretty much just killed their entire fucking field by having Kudo .

Speaker 2

And then bam , ellis norton look here , yeah , hi , hey , look you . You should want to hug a bear sometime sometimes , or or it's just this , look so , so . So I'm gonna be honest with you , right ? So I have , I have a Monogreen Wilson deck from . You know , one of the Dungeons and Dragons sets , right , yes , and I fucking love that deck . It's so stupid .

But when they announced you know , this new Kudo bear , I was like we might be doing that .

Speaker 1

It gave me Get Up the nightmare . So then you know the whole he gave me Get Up the nightmare .

Speaker 2

So then you know it's funny , because you mentioned teaming Kudo up with Elish Norn . And while , yeah , that is very despicable , there's something else you can do that's just as despicable . There's this old enchantment called Reverence . Don't know if you heard of it , but it says creatures with power 2 or less can attack you .

Speaker 1

Oh .

Speaker 3

It's gonna be like so .

Speaker 1

So that's a permanent as long as you have Kudo on the field , exactly . Just wanted to notify you , guys , I just lost against the new LeBlanc , the new one it has 1616 and multiple cannons on it .

Speaker 3

Jesus man .

Speaker 1

Now hold on Saitam Real quick . You told me that you got some proxies not too long ago with Dualogic . You want to talk about it on the podcast ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , actually , let me go get my enchantment deck . I got Pro Mox Mox Opal .

Speaker 2

Jewel Lotus . Let me see which other .

Speaker 3

I got .

Speaker 2

Demonic Shooter Vampire Shooter .

Speaker 3

Doubling .

Speaker 2

Season Anointed .

Speaker 3

Protection what was ?

Speaker 2

the other one .

Speaker 3

Wow , I'm popping it off the top of my head , but I could be able to get them right here right quick . Give me one second . You guys can sit down while I look for it . Sure , this is 100 cart tech you good .

Speaker 1

You good , now hold on . Speaking of which , I like how you mentioned doubly singing . So let's circle back to that Spring Heart 9-2 discussion that we had , where you could just pretty much put that on Scoot Swarm and whatnot . Hold on , we're not even feathering token doublers and shit .

Speaker 3

Mm-hmm .

Speaker 2

That's crazy .

Speaker 1

Now , hold on Now , speaking of which ? Speaking of which , there was another card , like a common card that's underrated , in my opinion . To where ? Going back to where I was telling you about the Kodama of the E Street combo that I had Cranial Ram . It's a Rakdos card , like black and red . It's equipment ram . It's a ractos card like , um , black and red .

Uh , it's a equipment , it's a living weapon . So it can pretty much come onto the battlefield and you create a , uh , phyrexian germ and attach it to it and then the well , I'm not gonna really do that , I'm probably gonna equip it to like the suit swarm .

So essentially , the , the equipped creature , gets plus X plus one , where X is the number of artifacts you control . Now , if you're spitting out infinite food tokens , infinite treasure tokens , infinite clue tokens and whatnot , that's infinite power on whatever creature you got that cranial ram on , and I'm like that should be scarier than it is like .

I feel like that should have been at least like an uncommon or rare , like that can get busted real fast with the right combo . Oh , absolutely now there is two more cards that was on my hit list .

One of them is a mana dork , fanatica Rotus , where essentially it's like you know , you tap it and you get one green mana , but you get four If you Trying to cast a creature that has Power of four or more .

So of course that would be great , for you know the beefy boys that you might have in your deck to where you want to make it easier for them to come out on the field . So it's good to have fanatica aronas on there now . The fourth one is an enchantment , a green enchantment , called monstrous vortex .

So essentially , uh , hold on , let me try to pull it up real quick , because I just had it . Hold on , hold on , hold on . Okay , here it is , I got it All right . So whenever you cast a creature spell with power five or greater , you discover X , where X is that spell's mana value .

So essentially , in case you didn't know about on discover and by the way , I like how um the x-lons set pretty much , um did that with the dynos , but now they pretty much made it to where it doesn't have to be a dino deck . You can just pretty much play discover in any green deck . So you exile cards from the top of your library .

Until you exile a non-land card with that mana value or less , you cast it without paying its mana cost , or put it into your hand or the rest of the bottom in any random order .

So imagine you're trying to cast a whole bunch of beefy boys with an infinite mana engine , mind you , and then you pretty much can just reach or fetch whatever you want , as long as , like , a mana value equal to or less than the creature that you already casted . Well , it doesn't really have to be a creature , it's more like non land .

So , bro , like , by then you pretty much have your whole library out there . But just in case , have some sort of mechanic to where you can shuffle your graveyard uh whatnot back into your library . Or you know you don't want to like tap out , unless you have a card specifically to where oh , if you ran out of cards in your library , you win the game .

There's cards like that yeah , they're , uh , yeah but yeah , um , spring heart , nantugo , uh , six , uh , monsters , vortex and fanatic aronis . Uh , am I pronouncing that correct ? Hold on , let me see what I gotta pull over . Yeah , I , I got it right . Fanatic aronis .

Uh , those are the four main ones that I want , like , oddly enough , aside from that , of course , I'm going to want the eldrazi . Of course

Discussion on Magic the Gathering Decks

I do . Speaking of which , let's talk about the pre-cons . So , with the pre-cons , they have a simic pre-con . We have , uh , what was it ? I know it's not , is it ? But it was more like a jess kai . It was j Jeskai , a Jeskai energy deck . As a matter of fact , we have the Lurgoy Jun deck and , of course , we have the Eldrazi all-color deck .

So , out of the four , which one piques your interest the most ?

Speaker 2

The Eldrazi all-color .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah . That was a dumb question , I'm sorry . Okay , hold on , make it a little harder . Okay , aside from the Eldrazi , what do you think is the stronger deck ?

Speaker 3

Eldrazi , eldrazi . I just got my ass chewed out by a fucking old that , um , it was a 16-16 and I had to blow up the whole field because of its annihilator .

Speaker 2

fuck that shit oh yeah , yeah , I mean , or not Fuck ?

Speaker 1

that shit , fuck all of it . Oh yeah , yeah , that annihilator is kind of rough man . Now hold on , didn't we ? I want to say , we need to figure out a way to like proliferate on Ulamogs where , like , as long as you like , keep beefing it up with , like pretty much how what Saitama was saying that .

It was like pretty much how what saitama was saying that it was like what , uh , a 1616 , so like , damn , like , if it was a 1616 with annihilator x , so uh , damn , so yeah , that was like nine or so , eight , nine , sure , oh damn yeah . Or so 8 , 9 , 6 . Oh , damn , yeah . Was there any other cards that y'all wanted to discuss in this set ?

Speaker 3

So I got the cards that we were talking about earlier the boxes that . I got . Currently I have the Mana Crypt Crypt Jeweled Lotus Chrome Moss Amber um Doubling Season . Smothering Tie , Sephiroth Protection uh and yeah , and the other one I was listening to earlier . Yeah , that's it .

Speaker 1

Oh , there is one thing that I wanted to mention , like kind of underrated , but I like how they included the null elemental blast In this set to where you know how they had the red elemental blast , where you either Counter a target blue spell or destroy target blue spell , but had the red elemental blast where you either counter a target blue spell or destroy

target blue spell , but with the no elemental blast you can either counter a target multicolor spell or destroy target multicolor permanent . So honestly , man , I'm kind of gunning for like a black elemental blast .

So I have something against these white cards , because here's my thing I don't give a flying fuck about blue , because I got answers for blue White cards .

Scared the shit out of me , though , because you're thinking like , okay , they're not that strong , but no , no no , they got some spooky-ass abilities when I'm like , oh , you're gonna make it really hard to have an answer , especially when you exile my whole Fucking field . I'm like , ah , okay , let me see If I have a T-Bowl trickery or something Like fuck .

Speaker 2

Yeah , White's um . It's very good at Not doing anything until it does everything you know . Does that make sense like ?

Speaker 1

it's you think green is power creep . No , white is like the secret boss where it's like you keep white unchecked for too long and it'll just creep up on you like how you can just just spit out a whole bunch of tokens and have hexproof and indestructible and all that other shit and you're just like , fuck , white is stronger than you think .

So I'm like I'm not scared of blue , I'm more scared of white .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it can definitely get out of hand quick if you don't keep it in check , that's for sure . Yeah , see , I'm going to tell you right now . I agree . I most definitely agree , because I'm a blue plate , look , look , I most definitely agree . However , I'm not going to front you . I know how bad white can be , especially if paired correctly .

I have not seen it done too much with a pure white . Yeah , no . This is me within Commander . I've not seen it done too much with a pure white . However , I have watched a white black vampire deck get relatively out of hand To where nobody on the board Want to play anymore like yo . That was horrible , like I've watched it .

So , yes , I do agree Like games . Like games is it's a hurtful thing .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Listen .

Speaker 1

That's the thing . Mono white not really that much of a threat . Unless you have like some really strong white cards , like some strong mono white cards , then okay , cool , it really depends on the

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build . But I get scared when I see fucking Mardu and Esper , because I'm like bro , listen , because I get PTSD . Well , okay , that's a strong wording of it , but it's like fucking cold sweats when I go up against like Dex , like Edgar Markov , I mean no , no , edgar , yeah , that was right , edgar Markov .

I mean no , no , edgar , yeah that was right , edgar Markov , him , and like Olaro , I'm like , oh bro , don't fucking see , here's my thing , here's the thing . That's why I said I can't be too mad at Blue Perry because , guess what , I have a Layla the Artful Proctor Provocateur .

You know from the I said from a while ago To where essentially you have like fairies and what not . But I added Sin triplets to it .

Speaker 2

Yeah Sin triplets , dude Fucking sin triplets .

Speaker 1

So I'm like . I can't be too mad At blue players , but it's more like In spirit . It's more like I'm like I can't be too mad at blue players , but it's more like in spirit . It's more like I'm one of those dudes when I'm trying to bring balance back to the game , to where I'm like hey man , hold on . When there's a will , there's a way .

Let's not say that one color is stronger than All the rest , unless you find the answer for it .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah . And uh you find an answer for yeah .

Speaker 3

Yeah . And uh me actually playing a Zil's Lion deck currently . You mentioned white , and all I have currently in my hand is a board white .

Speaker 1

See , that's what the fuck I'm talking about . Like no , listen , listen . Like the thing is with like things like Hexproof and Indestructible and whatnot , like it's fine when it's like , okay , you're targeting certain cards .

But if it's like a board wipe , I'm like , okay , it's not really targeting your creatures or certain players , like it's just being very broad , certain players like it just being very broad . So that's the real problems where white is very strong at broad gameplay . So it's like you got to think big picture with white .

So I'm thinking like bro , like I need to find an answer for a board white , because it would be one thing if it targeted my creatures or my flames or whatnot I would have hexproof or indestructible for that . Because it would be one thing if it targeted my creatures or my flames or whatnot I would have hexproof or indestructible for that .

But if it's a board white , I need to get creative and have T-Ball trickery .

Speaker 2

Okay , so I would agree with you on that , but once again and I'm only going to say this because this is just my experience , and I'm only going to say this because this is just my experience the people who I play against locally , they play once again . Right , they made a sliver Eldrazi deck . Everything gets everything .

It's almost like they don't want to be your friend . You know what I'm saying .

Speaker 1

I'm just saying , oh , so it's like the new Omo cards where you get everything counters .

Speaker 2

It's just like , hey , okay , at this point , you know it would be okay if it's only one or two things on the board that has indestructible or hexproof or death touch .

But when everything has indestructible or hexproof or death touch , but when everything has indestructible , hexproof , death touch , everything becomes a sliver , even the Eldrazi , and the Eldrazi now has annihilator plus 12 , plus indestructible , plus death touch .

Alright , now I'm looking at death in the face and now I'm just like you know what , everybody gotta go and one time Board wipe .

Speaker 1

Nah , nah , see , I'm looking at death in the face and now I'm just like you know what everybody gotta go and one time , no , no see , you're through it . No , see , hold on , see .

This is why it's getting to a point to where my jun deck is becoming really powerful , to a point to where I now see why my pod said that I'm the scariest um player at the table , even though I didn't understand that at first because it was just like I didn't even edit the pre-con at first .

But once I'm like okay , I got a whole bunch of L's so I need to like edit some cards out , like , kind of , you know , make it a little stronger .

And then the potential was starting to show and it's to a point to where , like bro , it got to a point to where I now got cards in there , to where you want to talk about everything having hexproof in the structure and whatnot .

Okay , I can make sure that my creatures , my enchantments , my planeswalkers and whatnot is secured because I have it to where , like cards , like a shed of the wild or timber protector , to where essentially my lands become creatures .

And if my lands are creatures , they also get all those static effects from like shit like a crowman's memorial , where you get like flying and , uh , double striking all the other shit to where essentially I would set it up , to where my creatures is going to be more like the offensive and , in case anybody wants to try something with me , I would have land

creatures that have like reach , flying but indestructible , like a shitload of power and toughness . I was like , oh , you think you sneak me ?

Speaker 2

So if we're going to talk about um cause , I know a little , a little bit back . You asked if there were any other cards that you wanted to speak on .

There was one that I wanted to speak on , um , I couldn't remember what the fuck it was called , okay , so , um , I don't know why WotC thinks it's okay to do shit like this , but for whatever reason , they made this little legendary creature by the name of Dadu Wing Wisdom .

Now this is one green blue for three , four bird wizard , and I want you to listen to this buffoonery that they thought was okay to put out in the world . It says flying creatures you control have . Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability , reveal the top card of your library . It's a land card .

Put it onto the battlefield , otherwise put it into your hand . This ability triggers only twice each turn . So think about this Creatures you control have . Whenever it becomes the target of a spell or ability , you can reveal the top card of your library and if it's a land , you just put it onto the battlefield , untapped , okay , or you put it in your hand .

So what happens if you blink ? What happens if you have ? I can't think of the name of the card right now , but anytime you have cards that can tap this card . Untapped cards that can tap this card , untap target creature . Tap this card , tap target creature , anything like that you can do it twice . There you go . You can do shit like that , just anything .

You target your creatures and you're putting lands untapped onto the battlefield . Or just card draw Like why , don't get me wrong , I'm buying this , I'm building it . But what was it called ? Again , nadu Winged Wisdom N-A-D-U .

Speaker 1

Okay , I got it . Let me see what color it is . Okay , it is Simic .

Speaker 2

Simic yes .

Speaker 1

I would say , if you build a Timur deck , you know , with blue , green and red , I would say Do that , get Nadu , then get a Staff of Domination and then Enchant that Staff of Dom of domination with bigger on the inside , which is a growl spell , bro .

That would go fucking crazy because you essentially can tap that staff of domination infinitely and then you get the pretty much use Nu's ability as much as you want yeah , well , I mean , it's the simple fact that I'm trying to find this card .

Speaker 2

I have a card in my head and I can't think of the damn name of it and I'm trying to find it . But it's the simple fact that this card has so much potential you know , whether you do Simic , whether you do anything , it's just got so much potential to do absolutely absurd stuff .

And , like , you and I had this conversation before Jet where it was like at some point when they were creating this set , and apparently with some of the cards in the Assassin's Creed set too , they were just like what are some ideas that we thought we couldn't do ?

Ah , fuck it , we're gonna do it now , we're just gonna let everything go and we're gonna see what happens . Like , why not right ? Like , why not just put something out there that's like as much of a menace as Kennen is , or you know just anything for that . Like , why not ?

Speaker 1

speaking of which , can we talk about the Assassin's Creed set ? Just a little bit , while we still got a little bit of time

Magic the Gathering Strategy Discussion

on this . Like , okay , first of all the Altair card . It's a Mardu , while we still got a little bit of time on this . Okay , first of all , the Altair card , it's a Mardu card , so you can already tell that if you're running Altair as a Mardu commander , I'm scared . Alright . So legendary creature , human assassin , 3-3 , first strike .

So whenever Altair attacks , exile up to one target assassin creature card from your graveyard with a memory counter on it . Then , for each creature card you own and exile with a memory counter on it , create a tapped and attacking token . That's a copy of it . Exile those tokens in the comment Now hold on . This reminds me of the idea I have for you . Tattoo .

Reminds me of the idea I have for you uh tattoo . Since you 3d model your tokens , I was wondering for the memory counters , do you think it's possible you can like model it to where it's like you have like a little animus and then you have the little dice slot for that , and then there you go first of all , first of all , why are you scared ?

Speaker 2

why are you ? Why are you scared of the assassins ? Don't be scared . Don't be scared . Once again , they just want to hug you .

Speaker 3

Now they might hug you . No , no .

Speaker 2

They just want to hug . That's all no .

Speaker 1

That's all .

Speaker 2

They just want to hug . That's the thing , right , and I'm going to say it wholeheartedly , I'm going to say it wholeheartedly , right , I want y'all to understand . So y'all should know who I follow on TikTok for me to say this , right , they can get it , they can get it .

But the reason I say this is because , simply put folks , hey , I'm the person that commits war crimes , I'm the person that commits war crimes . And what I mean by war crimes , if it means I need to pay off my neighbor To get to you , I will pay off my neighbor to get to you .

If I gotta hug your worst enemy and give them All of the nice treasure tokens Just to take it away To deal . 52 damage to you straight that you can't block Hugs , hugs all day . 52 damage to you straight that you can't block Hugs , hugs all day . Yo , I'm just saying Once again , right , these recent sets .

Folks , if I ever which it ain't going to be long once I can lay my hands on certain cards , because I'm not the person that when I go and play cards , a lot of people be like why don't you go and get the expensive ? Why am I getting expensive if I'm playing the decks ? I don't want expensive cards in my deck , I get the cheaper ones .

Why am I getting the cheaper ones ? Because I'm playing these cards . Right , I'm not here . It Magic the Gathering is a combination of collectors and those that play . Those that play , I tell you , if you just relatively want something that's shiny to show off , okay , cool , that's fine .

And dandy , don't play around me , because I'm gonna make you relatively want to scoop your own cards up in a rough manner that you're going to be like , ooh , my $20 card , guess what ? That's your fault , because I'm playing to make it hurt , especially in Commander .

So , with that being said , before I go back to where I was , I want you all to understand something too Please don't sleep on the artifacts . Artifacts have got Boosts as of lately . Artifacts have got A boost as of lately , and it's making them look really Viable right now , and I'm talking about viable .

As For modern and Commander , they're looking real , viable Right now .

Speaker 1

This one artifact that I want To make , like my lord Wingrazing to panther lily from fairy tale , like I'm gonna collect the swords , like , for instance , the sword Of feast and famine , but the newest one that came out , the sword of wealth and power , oh yeah .

Speaker 2

Dude . I'm still trying to pull one and I just have no luck . Like I don't want to , I know the logical thing to do .

Speaker 1

Especially that masterwork art . Oh , I want that . I just want it for the fucking art Shit .

Speaker 2

Like I know the logical thing to do is just buy the sink , but for some reason in my little fucking lizard brain that I have , I'm like you know what . You're going to get lucky and you're going to buy that one pack that actually has the card in it , and then I'll feel better about myself . I'll be like , yeah , you see how to buy this .

Speaker 1

You literally had a Peter Griffin moment to where I'm like , yeah , I mean a single is a single , but the mystery box .

Speaker 2

Exactly , Exactly Like why . I know I could buy the single . I know I could do that . But what if I could even get the single in the box ? We'll take the box . Yeah , what if I could buy a $10 pack and I get that card and then another card I wanted to ? Well then , that's just a win-win , you know .

Speaker 1

I mean , you already got your value back , so it's not a loss .

Speaker 2

That's true , by the way , and I just want to throw this out here to you guys and I know we're on the set , but I want to throw this out here to you all because , hey , we are part of the community and such . Can we please , please , please , please , stop letting these companies make us into such fools and be like , oh , you need this $300 , $400 card .

I want you to understand , I will print a proxy before I ever do that , like , don't get me wrong . Don't get me wrong . It's nice , it's pretty . I love a lot of the full arts . I do , I love a lot of the full arts , I do .

But I'm not finna , sit here and just be like , hey , um , i'ma spend four or five $500 to try to buy this car , when in fact , hey , you know what ? They've made a card printer that people can actually get and buy . I can print the card .

Speaker 3

We're not going to take it .

Speaker 2

It's like no offense to nobody , but it's like I will print . I will print that card out and , as I said before , because I'm a person who is not here trying to make bank off of my cards again , this is not baseball . These are not baseball cards . These are not football cards . This is not it . I'm not trying to make bank not baseball cards .

These are not football cards . This is not it . I'm not trying to make bank off these cards because I'm not trying to sell them when I have them , they're in my collection for life . So I only need one or maybe two for a deck or something . You know what I'm saying . That's perfectly fine and dandy .

Speaker 1

I mean honestly , if you really want to make bank , just go to tournaments .

Speaker 2

That part . Yeah , honestly , if you really want to make bank , just go to tournaments that part . That's where the money's at that part . If I'm sitting playing at local , I'm not going to spend that much . Just to play local , I'm happily content , which is why I say I know this Dang , that's a shame . I will push people to go get proxies .

Hey , yo , go get yourself proxies . You want to learn how to play this deck ? You want to learn how to play this stuff actually for real ? You want to get into the game ? Go buy some proxies . You sure positive . Go , go , go , go go . We will gladly teach . That's why I'm open to it , because it's so .

It's like there are more people that would love to play this game , but it's expensive .

Speaker 1

Not going to lie . Yeah , I will only pull up to a tournament . The money's great , but I'll be like the Joker . It's not even about the money , it's about sending a message . They call me the meta breaker .

Speaker 2

Yes , that's it . That's the same way with you , gil . That's the only reason why I will ever pull up to a tournament like that . I , I'm only , I'm only there to break the metal . I'm only , I'm only there to literally break the metal and hurt feelings . Oh my god , ladies and gentlemen , hey , you know , we got this new karma climbing up . What did he use ?

The most diabolical deck ever hug me bears . What so ?

Speaker 1

everybody , yes everybody around table just hooked until the bears exploded bro , we're gonna make the net deckers cry to the uh hive mind like like legit .

Speaker 2

No , I , I like I'm just saying I'm that person . If I was gonna do that , I'm that person to make you know wizards or konami , just be like yo . Hey , look , hold up emergency ban list .

Speaker 1

Ban that entire day , like that entire one got to go it has like 13 cars got banned in , like what , uh , pauper , and what was it ? The other one ?

Speaker 2

historic , or something like that okay , like that's just how it goes . But , like you know , that's . That's just why I say it like it is like , hey , I enjoy this game and I want others to enjoy this game , but I know and I'm not going to sugarcoat it this game is expensive and this game shouldn't be like that . This is a card game .

This game shouldn't be that expensive . I

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understand that . Yeah , it started out as it was for the kids , but now the adults got into it . So you want to take the adult money , and I get that , but still make it where the kids can enjoy it and not sit there and be like Mom .

Speaker 1

I'm breaking the bank because I need this jewel logan's to paraphrase what uh senpai gabe said on tiktok and facebook and youtube , wherever you can find him on , uh , there's pretty much two levels , well two main levels to magic gathering there's casual and then there's competitive .

But casual , let's be honest you can just pretty much buy a pre-con and it's gonna cost you , like on average , like what ? 40 dollars , unless you're buying , like uh , modern horizons where it's like , oh boy , they're gonna make you pay for it on that fucking eldrazi pre-con . But that's beside the point .

Uh , there's casual and then there's competitive and I was like , oh well , how much um , competitive cost like one to three hundred dollars .

Speaker 2

No , three months of rent no no , no no , no , no , that's , that's you're , you're going , you're going to spend at least close to and , and it was a shame that I even heard a friend of mine say this Like , yeah , he spent close to $1,000 for his deck . I was like what Are you out of your rabbit ? Ever loving mind Like ooh .

Speaker 1

Bro , that makes me feel very generous because I built a deck for a friend and that only cost me like $140 . So it's a very strong dimmer deck , like it's a dimmer wizard deck with Giza and Garop in there , to where you're pretty much spawning a whole bunch of zombies and whatnot , maskwood nests it .

To where all your creatures are like zombies and wizards and all that to a point to where , like bro , it gets fucking scary with that deck and I put the cypher cards in there too . To where you imprint all this crazy ass shit , to where creatures attacking you pop off all the different triggers and blah , blah , blah .

Yeah , so a strong deck doesn't really cost that much , but depending on the card and depending on the build , yes , it's not unheard of to where you pretty much gonna spend like one to three months rent on a deck if you're trying to play competitive .

Speaker 3

Because if you're trying to make bank at a fucking tournament .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's the price you have to pay yeah , because I was about to say , like I hate , I hate to admit it , I do have a very expensive deck . However , the reason it's so expensive is because I built a Praetor deck and I love all the Praetors , right . So I was like this is going to be my pet deck . I'm going to make it really pretty .

All of the cards that have a full art or full art , all of them , I mean I'm talking like Bro how people were shitting bricks when they saw the new Sheldred .

Speaker 1

Oh god damn .

Speaker 2

Yeah , no , hold on , let me see if I can't . Let me pull up my damn mana box real quick and see what that deck is valued at right now . That's why I'm just like you know . That's why I'm just like you know . That's so , oh God . So my deck is . It retails at $1,600 . It's a $1,600 , almost $1,700 . Jesus Christ you did .

But now keep in mind , though , some of these cards I didn't buy as a single . Some of these cards are shit that like I cracked open in packs or like I was at my LGS so my LGS is this really cool thing , right ? I love that they do this . What they'll do is they have their mystery binder .

So when you come in , if you want to play in Friday Night Magic , as soon as you enter the tournament they use the Magic Companion app . You log in , you enter their code or whatever you get to pull a card from the mystery binder .

Now , it's a card binder , but all of the cards are sleeved and they're put in the sleeves backwards , so all you see is the back of the card , so you don't know what the fuck you're grabbing when I tell you when I tell you two weeks in a row . When I went up there Week one , I pulled a foil Elish Norn out that bitch .

Week two , I pulled a foil Voringplex out that bitch .

Speaker 1

I said Wait , hold on . Which Elish Norn ? Are we talking about Grand Cena by or Mother of Machines ?

Speaker 2

Mother of Machines , oh yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah so I mean .

Speaker 3

Mother of Machines is a great card . Oh my god .

Speaker 2

So look , so look , my stupid expensive deck I'm just going to run down . I'll just hit a couple of the highlights in it . Okay , attracts , a Grand Unifier . Attracts a .

Speaker 1

Grand Unifier .

Speaker 2

You got Elish Norn , the Ancient Edgings . Elish Norn , grand Centipede . Elish Norn , mother of Machines . You got Jenga Taxis , great Synthesis , core Augur , progress , tyrant . You got Phyrexian Obliterator . You got all three of the Sheoldrids they're all foil . You got Skithrix .

You got all three of the Urbrask , all three of the Borenkleks , I mean all three of the herb rask , all three of the boring clicks . I mean you got manifold in this bitch and it's foil . I got , uh , hers is incubator in here . Keep in mind if there's a full art version of it . That's what's in this thing you got honestly , bro , you said enough .

I believe that's a fucking sixty hundred dollar deck dude like look , it took me I , I built this deck . It took me like four or five months to build it because , like I , would change . Look , look , I want you , I want you to know something I gotta tell you . I gotta tell you how my parents told me about my , about my car . You better not crash it .

You better not wreck that . That shit is more expensive than anything else that you got you . You better not . I , I swear to god , every day you get out of it , before you put it up in the deck box , you better clean each and every single sleeve . I don't even , I don't even play it that much . That's the problem . I don't even play it that much .

The last time I played it , uh , it was me and we had a five person pod .

We're at the house and , um it , it gets to my turn and I'm really nervous because , like I'd kind of been my decks like to fuck with me , I'll be like I'll talk my deck up and I'll be like man , look , this , this is , it's gonna be so dirty , it's gonna be a beast , and then it just completely shits the bed on me .

Speaker 1

It happens every time , yeah that's why I had to like edit my deck to a point to where , like , my early game is going to be fairly good , like assuming that I don't mulligan too much , and then by the time my early game like keeps me alive long enough , that's the uh power creep comes in yeah .

Speaker 2

So basically what happened was was like I was kind of I was kind of drowning a little bit . I was getting , I was hitting my mana , but I wasn't , that's all I was drawing right . So , um , I get realm breaker and I played it and it was like turn four or something . We had double mana on the table . Everybody had double mana

Realm Breaker and Deck Strategies

. I played Realm Breaker and I wait and I swear to you I've never been so nervous . And it goes all the way around the table and it gets back to me and I'm like it's my turn , it's my turn .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I feel like that .

Speaker 2

And once we got back to my turn , I was like y'all really fucked up . Y'all let realm breakers stay off the table . So I tapped nine tap realm breaker or not nine , I'm sorry . I tapped damn 10 and tap realm breakers , sacrifice it . And I pulled all the praetors out and put them on the table and I was like y'all , y'all lose .

Y'all know that right , we're about to do this and everybody's gonna lose .

Speaker 1

And so then after that , I was like you know , I'll play it every once in a while , but I'm not gonna play it often , it's now see , hold on like this is why I would say at this point uh , I consider win cons or , you know , like the final play , I call that domain expansion .

From now on , you pretty much pulled a domain expansion by rexian playground so .

Speaker 2

So now it sits on a shelf with the rest of my cars and a nice forexian altar deck box that I made , and it stays in its place , you gotta put it in a deck box .

Speaker 1

You like I chain it up and shit . It was like you'd be like that one , that champion breaker , um , um kind of dead , to where it's like I haven't played this deck in a long time . Let me see if I still got it exactly , exactly .

Speaker 2

so like I put a lot of money into it and then after that I played it and it did what it was supposed to do and I'm happy I don't need to do anything . So if I get , if we have a game night and shit starts getting out of hand and I'm like , okay , you know what , I need to let them know who they're messing with . I'll pull out the crater .

Oh , hell yeah hey like I said , y'all , look , y'all , do y'all . I can never , at the best I can see for myself , honestly , because of what type of decks I may want to build . At the best I would say a deck probably would cost me from Magic , maybe at the most of 200 , 300 . Yeah , because .

Speaker 1

I'm not— . Because I'm not— .

Speaker 2

And the reason why I say that is I'm not trying to push past that because once again , that's me , I'm not—I'm a person that's like yo , I'm not going to try to sit here and buy this , you know this expensive card . Try to sit here and buy this , you know this expensive car .

because once again , like , like jet , like just said , for a deck to literally cost two and three months worth of rent , hey , what look no I I get it because , like no , because , look , um case in point , got a co-worker of mine who wanted to learn how to play .

He came to the house one day and he didn't have , he didn't bring his decks with him and he was like , do we got time to get a quick game in ? And I was like , yeah , sure . So like I don't even remember what deck I had . You know what I think it was . I think it was my Zanheath deck that I built . I played my . Zanheath deck .

I handed him my D . I think it was my Zankeef deck that I built . I played my Zankeef deck . I handed him my Dina Soulsteeper deck . Bro , that's an $80 deck . Okay , let me correct that I put $80 into it . I had some other cards already that went into it Like there's an exquisite . I mean , I had to be that guy .

I put Exquisite blood and sanguine bond in there just because why not ? But I have $80 into this deck . I think he's probably like $1.50 , $1.60 , right , stomp me out in four fucking turns with a deck that costs half of what the deck I was playing . I was , was like you know what I'm not even mad , not even mad see that ?

Speaker 1

just remind me how I I mentioned this before , but y'all know that with my crinkle deck it was a homebrew bruh like I would just buy like random packs , random , uh , pre-cons and whatnot . I just keep keep ending up with these goblins . So I'm like , okay , whatever , you know what , I keep pulling goblins . Let's make a goblin deck out of this shit .

Let's just try it . Let's just throw our shits and giggles right , bro nobody told me that Krinko go fucking nuts when you get a shitload of goblins with a fucking battle squadron that has flying and xx , depending on how many goblins you have on field , so you have a fly boy with potentially infinite power and toughness .

While I'm spitting out , all these goblins have fucking skirt prospects to make infinite mana with ashna , uh , altering all that other shit to a point where I'm like bro , like I just cobbled this shit together . I did not know it's gonna be this strong and I don't even know how much I spent on it to make it .

All I know is like it was a bunch of random cards that I had in my fucking packs .

And I'm like bro , like see , that's what I'm saying to where you don't really need a whole lot of money to make a really strong deck , but if you're trying to roll up to tournaments and trying to make your money back , then you're gonna probably have to play a deck that has a power level like nine or ten just get the bombardments .

Speaker 3

If you're gonna run the grinko deck , just get the bombardments . Yeah , you're just , you're just gonna be the asshole of the deck .

Speaker 1

Yeah , the one with the Goblin Sharpshooter , where essentially you're just pretty much hitting everybody for one with Death , touch and shit and you're just pretty much spraying the whole field , destroying the whole field , with just this little Goblin .

Speaker 3

And Axanil . Oh , is your Axanil on a red deck like that ? Yeah , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , Can we talk about this ?

Speaker 3

But like it doubles the hits of anything that's like not creature damage , so like if you're hitting with the Bombardard and then directly to the Krakow deck , that's it . You're hitting for like four each hit .

Speaker 1

Yeah but uh , real quick , can we talk about this new SCO card ? To where it's a one in the black , to where it has menace , 3-2 , assassin spells you cast , have free running and then whenever SCO deals combat damage to a player , you may pay all five colors If that player has 10 or less life . When you do , that player loses the game .

Bro , like just imagine you have Dude . Imagine if you had like , fucking , like , uh , what was it Shit ? I fucking like uh , what was it Shit ? I want to say fucking um , blade of Selve . Yeah , like you just pretty much hit the whole table with that shit , yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's how that would happen .

Speaker 1

By the way , free running is a new mechanic . You may cast a spell for its free running cost . If you deal combat damage to a player , this turn with an assassin or commander .

Speaker 3

Yeah , that'll definitely do it , and you're running blue-black so you can just control the table .

Speaker 1

It's making me add Ramsey's . That's another thing . Add Ramsey's , that one assassin , and you got it .

Speaker 2

Like I said , like I said , don't be afraid of assassins . Assassins just want a hug . They might stab you in the back in the process , but yeah , you know hugs , but they might not . That part right there we just pick and choose's , all of you hold on , let me uh re-ram these real quick .

Speaker 1

Uh , just give you , uh the ladies and gentlemen , some context . So essentially it has death touch . It's a four , four , it's a two . Uh , color , two of any color , um , blue , black , uh , I already said death touch . So other assassins you control . Get one one , okay , not bad .

And whenever a player loses the game if they were attacked this turn by an assassin you control , you win the game . So all you have to do is get seo in one time . You don't even need blade of silver , just get seo in one time .

With that one condition , and you don't even have to go after the other player , you just win because you have Ramsey's on the field .

Speaker 3

It's all over now .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , oh , I'm kind of excited for it , like see , as an Assassin's Creed fan you know , I know the whole controversy and shit and look , look here it's not that deep Proud to your mama about it . That's all I'm going to say on that matter .

Speaker 2

There you go . Thanks , man .

Speaker 1

But yeah , I'm still going to see about this deck like this next set to where I'm definitely going to pick up the SEO and I'll tell you . You know , yeah , I'll build a Mardu and a fucking uh , we'll beef up my dimmer deck .

In fact , I will probably put it in like a fucking probably soup up my uh Esper deck that I already got , so that way I have more win cons to work with .

Magic the Gathering and GameStop

Speaker 2

Yeah , I mean , I'm definitely , I'm a huge , I'm a huge Assassin's Creed fan . Yeah , I mean , I'm definitely , I'm a huge , I'm a huge Assassin's Creed fan . I've already got uh , I've already got what a collector , a collector booster box and a bundle pre-ordered at my LGS .

So I mean , like , I told him , like as soon as they announced uh , they announced two sets , two of the Universe Beyond sets , and I went into my LGS each time and I said , when the Assassin's Creed set drops and when the Marvel set drops , I am prepared to make terrible financial decisions in your store .

Speaker 1

I'm willing , I'm ready to make terrible financial decisions but hey , but the mystery boss , I might get my money back , and then some exactly who knows , especially when you're buying the collector box not just a box .

Speaker 2

You know I want , I want folks to understand right , I'm gonna say it like it is right . So I didn't think it was possible . But those Walmart mystery boxes , you know how they're like , oh , oh , they got random sets . You know , don't do it to yourself , magic , don't do it . Don't do it , don't do it .

Folks , I want you to know something that Walmart mystery box and this is not me promoting walmart that that that one right there , if you go to the correct walmart , it technically doesn't relatively have anybody . That you know , you know , within that town , that's , that's not relatively picking up on this stuff .

Hey , hey , them be the good ones , them be the good ones .

Speaker 1

I got like I got like two walmart's in my area and I know for one thing that people will most likely go to the one um close to the shopping district , opposed to the one that's closer to the military base that we have , um not too far away .

So I would try rather go to the one up north of my area than to go to the shopping district , because most likely you're gonna be scouting the walmart , the fucking gamestop , the fucking targets and whatnot , scouting for these fucking boxes . But meanwhile this area over here is kind of dry and and I'm like let's see what y'all got .

Speaker 2

Exactly Like legit , and not even just for the Walmart boxes themselves . It's more so on lines of if you're trying to get that extra set of Modern Horizons and you're relatively you know , know you want a nice set that's fresh , not cracked , and you know you can get a better chance . Go to them , places that have not relatively been touched as much .

Bro , listen like hold on .

Speaker 1

I literally earlier today I was shopping around at walmart like it was uh , it was not really like a full walmart , you know , it was one of those neighborhood markets like the one where it's like more like a grocery store , more than anything bro , like I was just looking around and I was seeing like , okay , y'all got pokemon cards , y'all got yugioh cards okay ,

not much about magic , the gathering , but whatever . And then I then I saw him and then I was like , okay , we got some mystery boxes from fucking Outlaws of Thunder Junction , like the smaller boxes . Okay , not so bad . And then I found the Fallout pre-con for Caesar . So I'm like , okay , hold on now , like that's not bad .

I didn't buy them but I was like , hold on , that's not bad , that's kind of impressive , but not too impressive . So you may never know , some places might have what you need and nobody about to look around in this area . Like , oh well , you know people don't really come around here for Magic Cards .

But I'm like , hey , oh , let's talk about how GameStop is trying to buy cards from Real coincidental , how they started doing this just when modern horizon 3 started to pop up , because you know that people gonna try to sell their cars to make some money I already told you how I felt about that dude .

Speaker 3

They're getting into a business that's none of their business .

Speaker 2

Yeah , all it is is they're trying , they're trying to maintain relevancy . Uh , and , and they're , they're in is going to be . Well , we already sell some Magic , the Gathering product , so it's a logical step . No , the fuck , it's not Stay in your lane . Sell your fucking sell the video games .

You don't need to cross the threshold , you need to stay over there , they already sell Yu-Gi-Oh cards a little bit . and then like , look , I get it , you sell some Yu-Gi-Oh cards a little bit . And then like like , look , I get it , you sell some Yu-Gi-Oh , you sell some Pokemon .

Sometimes you even touched on trying to sell a little bit of D&D and other things . That's cool , that's fine , that's dandy . But no , no .

Speaker 1

And plus I'm not in the mood .

Speaker 2

I would rather not sell the cards . I would rather not .

Speaker 1

I would rather , yeah , have the card in the shop , just sell the game because I'm not in the mood to have y'all play pawn stars with me to where like , oh , best I can do is like ten dollars . Meanwhile you sell it for exuberant amount of prices and I'm like , did you just fucking finesse me out of my fucking cards ?

Speaker 2

exactly that part like yo hey , hey , let's not do this . Oh okay , look , look , I can buy this card from you for about 80 bucks . Me an intelligent person looking at the person's card and was like are you fucking telling me you're trying to buy a fucking jewel lotus for 80 ? Can you buy that shit , for you can .

Speaker 1

You know jewel lotus for 80 bro , like , can you buy that shit ?

Speaker 2

oh , you can you know , just saying like that , that would be the shit that they they try to pull straight in the face and they're gonna look at that jewel lotus and they'll be like , hey , man , this card it's . It's kind of bent a little so we can give you the full price .

Speaker 3

It's like a little twisted on the side by like .003 centimeters . Best that I can do for you is 55 .

Speaker 1

And .

Speaker 3

I'm going to have to call my supervisor on that to make sure . I'm going to have to call my supervisor on that to make sure .

Speaker 2

I want you to look and this is from a person that used to work at Gainesville . I want you to know the moment I was to ever hear back about any car that I know you're out of luck . I'm sorry I'm about to trash this entire story . It's going to get burned down .

Speaker 1

You're gone , absolutely . I'm about to trash this entire story .

Speaker 2

It's going to get burned down . You're gone . Absolutely , I'm going to call bullshit so fast if they do that . If I'm in that store and they do that shit , I'm going to be like actually , let me introduce you to this little website right here . Okay , this little website right here will tell you what your cards are worth .

Then you can go somewhere else and find somewhere that will give you the correct amount that you should get , because they're crooks . That's all that is .

They're crooks and they're they're just trying to get involved in shit that they should , which , which is which is why they hate it when the customer comes in and does that type of thing , because they'll be like look , look , no , we have to make a profit in the store , even though a lot of the people that work there will tell you hey , I , I wholeheartedly

understand the grief , like yo , but we just have to go by the part .

Speaker 1

We have to go by protocols , fuck protocol yeah , see , at this point it just feels like gamestop is like that person that's falling down , but they take a long ass time to fall down and they're trying to cling on to wherever they can to break their fall and whatnot and there's like but look funko pops , but look magic horse , but look at all the stuff we got

. Um , please , we need to stay in business , please don't let us fall down like you know , yeah , I mean like game stop was in its heyday

GameStop

.

Speaker 2

You know , maybe 10 years ago or so , when they had they , they used to have a lot of my wife and I were times when we had rhino yeah , like my wife and I we used to . We used to love going . We , where we live , we've got about five or six game stops within a 30 minute drive in any direction , right .

So we used to just be like , hey , we're going to be over on this side of town , why don't we go check out this one and this one ? And we would go in there .

And we we knew we were like so this game stop is the game stuff we're going to go to if we want to look for statues , and this game stop has a better selection on video games , and then this GameStop has the better selection on this . But now it's like I'll , we'll just be out and I'll be like there's a GameStop there .

I guess I'll just go in there and like walk around . Most of the times , man , I go into GameStop so my kid can play on the fucking Switch that they've got . He'll play Kirby or Mario or something . I'll walk around and and look at shit and then just leave . I don't think I've spent money in a GameStop in over a year .

I don't know why they're still open .

Speaker 3

Well and see . That's how I also feel about it , because again , they're turning into a business that's really none of their business at all , and anytime that I go into GameStop it's like , okay , cool , this place is very nice . This is a nice museum for old video games and new ones . This is very nice . Okay , now I'm going to go into my PS5 .

And I'm just going to get a discounted game for way less than what they're currently selling it and shit . If there's like a good game at the month on PS Plus , then I'll just download it for free .

Speaker 1

Hey , man , you know what that reminds me of , back when the PS5 was like brand new and everybody was trying to get one , and that just made me realize that with GameStop , they're more banking on people buying physical objects .

That's why , when it comes to like games or like digital shit like , they don't really bank on that as much , but they want you to buy like the consoles or barely the accessories that come with the consoles and all the other shit , because that's what they really get that money from . Like , uh , additional shit , like not the shit that you really came for .

It's more like hey , so while you're here , would you like to buy this other thing ? I was like , no , I came here for this and I was like but this thing ? I was like , look here , if that thing touches my thing here , we're going to have problems .

Speaker 3

Yeah , so we have also a new product here for an additional $9.99 . You'll be able to in a subscription and in this subscription it'll be an additional $5.99 and you can get unlimited video games . But look , my guy , my guy , look , you don't have to talk sweet to me , okay , if you want to fuck me that hard , fine , take me to dinner at least .

But for God fucking sakes , stop trying to sell me something that I don't want to buy .

Speaker 2

Let me tell you Go for it , go ahead . Let me tell you , the last time I bought something from gamestop this is what ? And this was something small , but this is something they did and I was like you know what ? I don't think I want to come here anymore just because they did this . So we were in there . It was right around my kid's birthday .

He wanted a video game . So I was like , okay , yeah , you know , we'll go , because we were in there , it was right around my kid's birthday . He wanted a video game . So I was like , okay , yeah , you know , we'll go . Because we were at the mall and we walk into GameStop and so he finds a Ninja Turtle game that he wants .

We go and I'm at the register , hand him the game and he's like , yeah , did you find everything ? And I'm like , yeah , we're good . And he's's like , is there anything ? I can institute this or this ? No , I'm good . He said , uh , or do you have a pro membership ? And I was like , nah , that should expire , like five years ago .

He's like , well , if you renew today , I was like I'm gonna start right there , I'm not renewing , I just want the video game for my son . So we can leave . Just help me out here , man . So he brings the game up and then he's like okay , your total is blah , blah , blah .

And as I'm about to enter my card into the card reader , he says that includes the two-year replacement . And I was like , how much does that cost ? He's like , oh , that's an extra four dollars . And I was like I don't recall telling you I wanted that extra plan with this purchase .

Oh , I , I just assumed that you know it , it and I was like no , no , no , no , no , no . I didn't tell you I wanted it . You shouldn't have added it .

Speaker 1

I was like because now you're selling me some bullshit that I don't want no I was like hold on I'm sorry , tattoo , but that reminds me real quick , I'll just make it real quick . That reminds me of how I made a purchase at gamestop and they were trying to push that plan on me and I was like , nah , I'm good .

And then they hit me with that oh , you don't care about your things . I'm like , bro , listen , one day I'm gonna be worm food in the ground . None of this shit is gonna come with with me . It doesn't matter . Just give me the game . Stop pushing this shit on me .

Speaker 2

Right , like the fact of the matter is is . Like you know , if something happens to my game , I'm an adult that has a job and I collect a paycheck . I always got more money .

Speaker 3

I just buy a fucking other one . That's what I'm saying . That's what I'm saying . Nobody's taking you to dinner . They're trying to fuck you like that , and that's not okay .

Speaker 1

No , no , no , Hold on . I'm a classy hoe . This dick ain't free . You ain't going to treat me any type of way .

Speaker 3

I'm saying like damn . And just to finalize , on my side I finished the NTD tournament today and I lost Severely . It was horrible . It was I fought against an Eldrazi deck and I got my ass kicked .

Speaker 2

Well , I mean could have been worse , could have lost to a least favorable thematic deck , I guess .

Speaker 3

No , it was horrible .

Speaker 1

I mean you could go up against like a mono green chatterfang deck where it's like just blind and got a shitload of squirrels and you're just pretty much getting pelted by nuts .

Speaker 2

That would have pissed me off .

Speaker 3

There was actually one instance where , like , he pulled out Ulamog and Rakul , the new ones , and then the old Kozilek , was all three out of the battlefield and I told him I was like , look , if you want to just kill me , just do it silently , nobody needs to know . And he's like no , no , no , don't worry . Like I can't attack you .

Uh , you have this , this and this and this on the battlefield and I'm like , well , you can , if you attack , I exile all my creatures , not all my creatures , all like my , my library , um half of it . And , dude , it's not . This game's not going to be worth it at the end of the day . So like , let's just , let's just end it here .

Uh , I'm actually going to to leave it . Uh , leave it here because I gotta , I gotta , pick up my , so I will be catching y'all here all right , we're pretty much gonna wrap it up anyways .

Speaker 1

So , uh , unless y'all got anything Else um Talos Tattoo , y'all got anything else y'all want to add in , alright , alright , we'll just . We'll just go ahead and close it out then , until the next .

Speaker 3

Oh my god .

Speaker 1

Okay .

Speaker 3

Uh .

Speaker 1

Anyway , uh , until the next set , y'all stay nerdy . God , okay , anyway , until the next set , y'all stay nerdy . We're zoning out of here . Take it easy , y'all .

Speaker 3

See you folks Peace out everybody . Thanks for listening . Hell yeah .

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