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Knight's & Magic: From Mecha Enthusiast to Talented Magician & Ingenious Designer of Giant Robots

Nov 13, 20231 hr 3 minSeason 12Ep. 4
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Get ready to embark on an enlightening journey into the world of anime, more specifically, the intriguing series, Knight's End Magic. We share our insights on the captivating tale of a reincarnated software engineer turned mech pilot, drawing compelling comparisons with the protagonist of Assassination Classroom. Listen as we delve into the political conflicts, the significance of the character Ernestine, and the remarkable balance between Max and magic in the series.

As we go deeper, we reflect on the meticulous process of world-building in anime, based on Knight's End Magic as a case study. We reveal how Ernestine's light novel expands the horizons of magic, introducing innovative ways to combine elements and use magic. We pull back the curtain on our podcast team, discussing our collaboration process, and the critical role of an individual with an eye for detail.

In the latter segment, we wrestle with the controversial theme of character redemption in anime, placing Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z and Bakugo from My Hero Academia under the microscope. We analyze how the fans' influence can significantly reshape a character's story arc, leading to drastic changes from the initial plans. We reflect on the pitfalls of anime adaptations, how they can cut stories short, and discuss possible alternatives. So, gear up for a thrilling ride into the vast universe of anime, a journey sure to leave you both entertained and enlightened.

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Discussion on Knight's End Magic Anime

Speaker 2

I have many guilty pledges in anime , two of them being magic and giant robots . This anime has both of them and intertwined the two concepts in a way that gripped me , even though this anime has a trope that I grew tired of at my age , where the protagonist is just effortlessly overpowered after being reincarnated from another world .

But at least with this protagonist , his ingenuity and aptitude for piling these robots are tied to his previous life . As an enthusiast of Mecha isn't during in a way that can respect it . Therefore , I could be the past for this time around . And with that said , you know what ? Let's go on with the show . What's good nerd ?

It's Jet Blackestream with another episode of the Zone Podcast With me . Today . We got Cookie Guys , super Professor Tuck and the Mecha Manager himself , talos Gundam , with a review on Night's End Magic . I'm gonna have to further do . Let's go ahead and zone in on this one .

So we got this series , where he tells the story of a young Japanese man , software engineer in a hardcore mecha otaku , named Tsubasa Karada , who dies in a car accident and reincarnates as a young son , born into a noble family and blessed with exceptional magic abilities .

Ernestie Eru Eschevalier ending fantastical Frimvilla kingdom , this medieval magical world where the giant mechs called Silhouette Knights are used to fight against these horrifying creatures called demon beasts . By the way , I feel like y'all could have been a little bit more creative with the name . I like that . Just feel like a little cookie cutter , but whatever .

After witnessing his father pilot a Silhouette Knight to save his family from a scorpion type demon beast , ernestie recollected his memories from his past life and dedicated himself since then to fulfill his long time dream of building and piloting his own map . He then rolls into the Royal Highly Highly Academy Jesus Christ . His names .

This elite magic school ran by Ernestie's grandfather . What a coincidence . There the pilots of the Silhouette Knights , called Knightrunners , are being trained to bow Threads Pope from within and outside the kingdom . And my boy , ernestie , was crushing it at the academy to a point where he skipped to middle school .

After demonstrating that , he came strapped with that magical gun blade . And here's my thing Gun Blades , my favorite weapons . Like a book , I don't know what it is , but gun blades , that's just . Hmm , I might 3D print something . I just like the concept of it . I'm like I could just slash and dash and then just blow breeze .

But anyways , he came strapped to flex on the students and teachers , thanks to his friend Batson Terminian and his dwarf friends and father who helped to make the web , as thanks for Ernestie defending Batson from bullies .

And our endearing protagonist later teams up with his friends , twins , addy and Kid , with this goal to pilot Silhouette Knights and his own creations , something that has been unheard of for centuries . Now , at this point it's pretty much been nothing but up for our boy , because he was impressing the senior knightrunners royalty with his ingenious invention .

Yeah , there were political conflicts , battles , and he had to go back to the drawing board from time to time . But overall , ernestie just tended to find a way to show that he is in a league of his own when it comes to magic and mega , but there's been a way more dove into the light novels .

But that's why I say it's kind of criminal that at least give us like a little bit more season , like maybe like one or two more seasons of this . And now I'm like , okay , to be fair , it was going somewhere , but you're not going to see that if the demand is not there . But enough about that . That's pretty much my general feel of nice and magic .

I'm going to open it up to the round table how you feeling about this anime ?

Speaker 1

I wish it was popular . Love the war in season two , that jump was really slipped on . When I first watched it , when I read it rather I read the description and then started watching it I was like , dang , this jump probably similar to like infinite straddles , that's what I was feeling like , yeah .

But when I watched it , though , I was like I don't know , it's kind of good , just the drawing , the like fantastical side of things in the back . It was really dope . Now , granted , some of the writing was poor , but other than that you know what I mean the creation , the upgrades that Ernestine came up with , but it was really dope .

Speaker 2

Okay , hold on real quick . I want the ladies and gentlemen listening to this . I want you all to google image search urgency , and urgency from nice and magic Alright , once you get that picture pulled up , I want you to look at that picture and imagine that kid , this androgynous looking little boy , and I want you to imagine him saying they call me the reaper .

Can you honestly believe that this little kid is called the reaper ? It's like full men's alchemist . I'm sorry , but I'm like that's just so adorable . I'm like such an edgy title for a kid that just wouldn't think would even hurt a fly . But , like I said , with that fucking gunplay and shit , I'm like yeah , no , that's not the kid .

Speaker 1

If anything , you know what ?

Speaker 2

he really reminds me of Nagisa from assassination class room .

Speaker 1

Yeah , that makes sense .

Speaker 2

Because androgynous little boy . But he's more dangerous than you think . He's right , but you got something for us , alice .

Speaker 4

Yeah , first off , what's goodie ? Second of all , to those of you that do decide to listen and go and look at this kid and you're like , hey , you know , he said just keep him saying I'm the reaper . Okay , I want you to know something . If you have never watched any mecha anime , you're gonna be surprised .

However , for those of us that know and if you are in the know , you know there are several kids out there that when you say their name to a mecha enthusiast such as myself , we look at you sideways like ain't , no fucking way , you ain't gonna out pilot that nigga , that motherfucking gonna kill you before you get to him .

So yeah , believe me , there are several angels of death in the mecha anime world that look like they about ten years old , just saying .

Speaker 2

True , fair enough , it's always the most unassuming character , that be like the most broken , broken character . But uh , koki , you got something for us .

Speaker 3

I do so for me into this . I did really enjoy this . First off , understanding the plot . Yes , the plot does want to fill in with a little bit of the reason being is because this was a quick adaptation of the light novel , unlike most anime , which usually has a manga and then they , kind of like , have a chance to get the anime and stuff .

This one was just a write off novel . This was the writer was just writing things off . The light novel is going to significantly more than this story . The thing about it is is that I'm not gonna say the protagonist is pretty good , just more so the fact that the protagonist plays his role and then that's about it .

But he's not that purposeful overbearing we were supposed to get like . If you read the light novels , every character has a background story . Every character is fleshed out and he's not overpowered , because the thing about it is that , regardless , he's still a kid .

He has all the smarts into it , he can pilot very well , but he is still a kid , he's still unfortunate , just what it is , and that aspect . He has to have his team to back him up into stuff and he treats his team very well . Each of those team members are also very important to the story and the light novel as well too .

So that's something to kind of understand into that . This one when the , when it was made , the concept was very interesting .

The animation studio was like , oh , we love making mecha and we love making like epic fight scenes , which they did a fantastic job on , and so because of that , they wound up just saying , hey , we're going to get your story out there , but we're not going to be able to get it out there with the plot .

We're going to get it out there more so with the fighting stuff and also understanding this too , there's like only two girls throughout the whole anime with big breasts . So they don't get no like they don't really get a whole lot of shine like that . What's what may see them in one , maybe two episodes , it's about it out of a whole 13 episode .

So literally , you're going to have time to actually focus on the fight scenes and focus on the plot . And because it's less distraction , of course , you get a chance to feel like , hey , there's something more of the plot that it feels like it was rushed , like it's not dragging , but it feels like it was kind of just condensed together .

But it was supposed to be .

Speaker 2

And that's what kind of respect about this one . What I respect about this one is like oh , you thought we were just one of those cheap cash grabs where we have to slap smudding to our series if they keep your attention . No .

Speaker 3

But that's what they thought was going to happen . They thought that that's what it was . They was like we're not going to focus on today . We want to focus more into the Mecha . Jon . One thing also into this as well too . Keep in mind , on how magic works .

In this place there's no real like most of the science goes into the next , but there's not much science that was going into the magic until our main character really points it out into that . Remember the first design that he really emphasized that could really help out .

The next was that they were complaining that they couldn't use magic and their swords at the same time and he just came up with what most people was like Damn , that seems like the simplest fucking idea . How come we didn't think about that ? To just add fucking like magic , aren't like magic cannons on the back of the mix ?

That way you can still shoot magic and use the sword at the same time and it's like , and it's not difficult , you just add two other little gauges for the two arms . It's not like you have to heavily focus them , just have them shoot forward . You can make them shoot left or right .

Speaker 2

I'm sorry . I'm sorry , but that's like saying , oh , they're having this problem , Ernesty shows up . I'm like , actually I'm surprised I didn't consider it . This and the third . I mean it's not rocket science . And then these grown as people is looking fucking stupid that this kid just stopped all their problems like it was nothing .

Speaker 3

But how do you understand ? That's a real life thing . A lot of times , when you're real focused on something , the simplest answers are there . You just don't really see it because you're so focused on a big picture . So you need somebody who's able to focus on the small details . And that's one of the best parts of Ernesty is that he can focus .

He's like , ok , this seems like a big problem , but let's start small and then work big . Versus , they're working big , then kind of like progressing their way small , but because they're still so focused on big , it doesn't get that way . But yeah , so he does that a lot .

And then also like in the fact that he has training montages , like he wanted to be the greatest pilot and he didn't just hop in the suit and was like , oh my God , he's a natural , it's a great pilot stuff . He had to actually learn that shit . Like he helped build it , but it made a big difference when he was actually like piloting .

That made a huge difference . And he's like , ok , I need to actually practice and need to know what the hell it is that I'm doing .

Speaker 2

I need to actually like put some stuff together and stuff , so that way we can yeah , I mean , even in the first episode where even though they kind of breathe through it he was actually studying the shit like magic and how to pilot the shit he was actually studying . So it's not like he cheated his way through all that shit . It's like he actually earned it .

But it's like the way the plot kind of with the pacing , it just kind of feels like he just steam rolling through everything .

Speaker 3

And it's only because he already he's already had a fascination for Max , so literally because he already had like , when you're passionate about something , you're going to devote time and energy to it and that's the only thing about it .

To him , it feels like everyone else feels like he's breathing by it really quickly , but no , that's something he's passionate about . When you're passionate about something , you put that time and energy into it and everyone else is going to be like dang , you breezing through this real quick . How come I can't breathe Because you're not as passionate ?

Speaker 2

No , nothing wrong , just that one mean that one mean where you have Marge and Homer Simpson and Homer is like in his you know his own tidy whitey but he got like all that fat on kind of clamped up in the back . You know that one mean that's what , that's what pretty much feels like to wear .

It's like you make it look so easy but you don't understand the process . They took the athlete do it . So I'm like , yeah , it's like almost like saying that with experience you can make it look easy , but getting started , well , everybody has a journey .

Speaker 3

Now I do want to get a chance to talk about this . I am fantasy club president . You know , talos is obviously met King .

Magic & World Building in Anime

So this particular anime , the anime I'm specifically saying that is the fact that it was focused more heavily on the max in the light novel . It actually focused a good balance between max and magic , and you don't see that so much here . Most of the magic that you see in this anime is very simple , elemental basis .

However , in the light novel , ernestine was able to even like , mix certain elements together to create new , different versions of tactics of magic that people didn't think about . Like the most tactical thing that you saw in magic in this anime wound up being the fight between the king and his grandson when they were fighting over who gets the pilot .

I think it was the gold lion um . Next suit that Ernestine built .

Speaker 2

Yeah , um gold lion and silver tiger .

Speaker 3

Yeah . So they were fighting over the gold one who gets the pilot the gold ? And during that one , the most that you wanted to see was that the grandson , when he was about to get slammed because , also keeping in mind Ernest grandpa was like y'all too focused heavily on holding onto your weapons , don't forget , your whole met is a weapon .

They could drop that spear and just bone rust his grandson . And then started grappling his ass . He was like , oh shit , I didn't even think about that , of course not . You're too heavily focused on weapons , this shit . And so his grandson had to think tactically at that point . He's like I got to fight my grandpa , like he's a great fucking pilot .

So when he's about to literally suplex his ass , he winds up using the magic the blast himself out of it .

And so , literally , in keeping in mind like that's the most tactical thing that you want to be seeing in the anime of someone using magic other than just , oh , I'm just shooting beams everywhere Cause remember , they have like a magic drive to have a reserve , magic fluids , like magic drive , and when that runs out , you don't have no more magic type of thing .

But the thing about it is is that Ernestine and the light novel , wound up going further , mixing more elements into those things together and started creating new not new magic , but more ideas of how magic could be used .

And it became a big thing when he wound up fighting against the other part , like when it became political , we was going against other kingdoms , cause fighting against the monsters wasn't as bad until they fought like monster queen . But so that's one thing I would say the anime got down a lot on , even though it winds up being called knights in magic .

They wanted to only focus on just the mecha , for the anime part of it , just to hype into that , because that was when it came out . Mecha was hyped at the time Like Gundam was like still top , was still one of the top tier , top 10 anime at the time as most popular , and so they were really trying to hype into that .

And so they wound up cutting down the magical elements into them , which I do feel very upset about , because there was a lot of tactical stuff that went into that . That kind of . I feel like this thing is just brought in a little bit more .

Speaker 2

You know what you brought up . Two points First of all , I like how the recurring theme of this series so far is your pro . You know what your problem is you overthink too much . That was what your problem is , Breach . And second thing is the way you explain how . It's not that he's creating new magic is more like he's expanding on it .

He reminds me of buddy from this one anime that we might review sometime . It's called a costume record of bastard magic .

Speaker 1

Oh my God , that's , a good show .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you know that . Okay . So basically , buddy show up is like oh , we already know that . Still , I was like oh , but you don't know how to do the spell this way . And I was like oh , yeah , like yeah , I know shit , oh shit .

Speaker 3

That's all it takes . Sometimes you just need someone that can bring those little simple ideas and it makes it makes a very big difference into that , like any organization , like even for us on the zone , that's one of the biggest things that we have a big focus point .

But it's nice to have somebody who's able to focus on those little small elements to kind of help things grow together , and Ernestine was doing fantastic into that , the way he can still see the big picture . But he can understand . Here's some little elements that I'm going to focus on while y'all focus on bringing the big plan together .

Speaker 2

And see .

That's why I kind of feel a little cathartic about this series , where that's that's kind of feel like our thing , going on to where it's specifically between me and Coco God suits , where I'm more of the big picture guy , even though there are some things where I would prefer to focus on this element , like the 3D printing part , and then the rest of y'all just ,

oh , excuse me , had like a gas bubble . I keep doing this on every fucking podcast Shit . Anyways , I prefer to focus on one or a few things and then let everybody else do their part .

But mostly I'm like the big picture guy and then I have , like some people as moral , like okay , I'm going to need y'all to look out for me as far as like the minute details , in case I'm skipping something , like something I'm not overlooking , or you know . So I kind of feel that , speaking of characters , I had something to say about the characters .

Well , even though in the light novels they expanded on them more like hell , like , for instance , ernest , I'm just going to go and say that .

Speaker 1

Ernestie and the . Yeah , well , he Y'all .

Speaker 2

He does marry the girl twin and I don't know if he had any cunky bonds on the side , but I went back down . I don't think he was the type of a man with his reputation , I believe it and then with the boy twin , that girl he rescued in that one mission , they end up getting married to and turns out that she's a queen from another kingdom .

So it's like their royalty , blah , blah , blah . So kind of point out like that . But in the anime , as far as like the one and only season , it just seemed like it was one of those series where it's mainly the protagonist show where , aside from the twins actually being runaways from this noble family , everyone else pretty much just build a role Like .

Ernestie is pretty much like the only character in my opinion . In my opinion , that captured my interest and it's clear that the world is wrapping around . His reactive agency to narrative . Looking at you , Eminence of Shadow .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , I will say also one of the things about it too , in the light novel .

Speaker 3

We do get a slight expansion because there's a couple of books in the light novels . So we do get a slight more expansion in the kingdoms as well . And it's one of the things like because when I first started writing one of my stories , it was way back when I was in high school , so it was like right before this anime came out , and that was one thing .

This anime kind of made me realize that , hey , focus more on just like one , two kingdoms type of thing , like it's a world building , like world building has multiple kingdoms , multiple things like that , and it'll give you something like if you ever find yourself writing a story and you have to find yourself in like writer's block and you're like dang , it's because

you're only focusing on like these five characters and you're like well , what these five characters going to do next ? Well , how about you expand on some of the other characters ? Like expand on some other kingdoms , like come up with a whole new kingdom that never existed before and talk about how they might have created some type of little intertwined ?

You might want to finding a whole nother storyline that you're gonna focus on too .

It's like the world building helps out a lot in the story , because if you're with when , most things I know is that when a writer finds themselves having writers block , that's usually also the same time that the readers are , or the like , the people that are receiving that entertainment , the consumers , I'm gonna say that are getting bored as well too , and that

ties in heavily together . So it's like have something else to also focus on as well , to help out into that , and it doesn't have to be something completely different .

It just it can still be within the same story , but don't only just focus on those main characters , because you'll find yourself finding so many other fan favorite characters Like I'm just briefly mentioned , into this one , oh Two primary examples of characters who are supposed to be written off , who not , whether like written off as far as it was supposed to Die ,

or they were supposed to go a certain way and seem as a very unimportant character , but because fans were so heavily focused on to it , it completely changed a lot of the story because the writers had to make changes for their fan base

Fan Influence on Character Redemption

. And so two primary examples into that Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z and and Bakugo from my hero academia . Because , like in real retrospect , vegeta was supposed to die on Planet Namek and he was not supposed to come back . That was it .

He was supposed to be done , but because fans wanted him to have more redemption , because the only redemption he really got Was the fact that he finally got a chance to like not even so much apologized to Goku , but really kind of let him in saying I'm gonna have to trust you to handle this because I can't do anything , or that people was like he was starting

to get a redemption . Where's this full redemption ? We need that . And now we still have a Jida all the way in a super and now upcoming Dragon Ball Diamond .

And then from my hero , academia I'm not gonna go into spoilers because it has not come out in the anime yet and people haven't seen it yet but in the manga , readers who know Bakugo originally was supposed to be written off as a villain . In fact , the writer himself said that he absolutely hated Bakugo .

He specifically wrote Bakugo to be an asshole Because he was going to become a villain right off the bat , like within the first , like several chapters of the manga . But before the anime , before it wound up getting fully adapted into an anime , the manga readers was like yo , we love Bakugo , we need more of him .

He's gonna be a great hero because people gonna think that he's a villain . But watch him like step up and show out when it becomes climactic and I'm only gonna say that's some heavy foreshadowing , so what happens in the manga , but that's all I'm gonna say . I'm not gonna score shit . But for real , it's like those are two primary examples into that .

So it's like having other characters makes a big difference and so when you're watching even nicer magic , your focus so much on the , the people who re-written , who rewrote the story for the anime , because it wasn't the writer that did this . There was a higher team that rewrote the story for the anime .

He improved it , kind of just said , yeah , that's fine to go along , but he was not the one that wrote the anime . So the thing about it is is that they focus so heavily on the main character that even they were rewriting the story . It became very obvious the writer did not want to focus only on him , it was other people .

This was a team of mech runner . He was a team of runners is the team that worked things together . He could not do this by himself . He had his team there to back him up , but they wrote that out , and so it's like it's one of those things that this one was kind of reversed in this aspect .

They thought the fans would not want to know about these other people , but here we are .

Speaker 2

I'm sorry but do we need any more repeats of dead man wonderland ?

Speaker 3

No , we don't .

Speaker 2

I'm just saying .

Speaker 3

I was .

Speaker 2

You know , when you read that manga like wait one minute .

Speaker 4

Oh , believe me , I know this , I know this whole Harley and I will say this now I was like it's not , because I'm gonna tell you some , even though it is not , I still consider it over . And then in the mecha anime genre , because of how they did it , and Dead man wonderland , we got robbed .

We got whole , entirely robbed , because if you go and you read the story , oh my god , there's so much more to this . But then you watch the anime , what happened ? Where's the rest of it , bro ? No , so you just gonna dangle the carrot in my face and then just be like and that's it .

Speaker 2

I don't fucking love how there was way more to the story before the actual beginning of the anime and they just think it almost like . They just went like , okay , let's skip the beginning a little bit .

All right , we'll just start it right here and then we're gonna go a little bit with it and as soon as you find out that who do it soon on Gonta finds out who the red man is in of the show , go home .

Speaker 4

Yeah , no , but he is my friend right , and I'm gonna say this whole Harley . There's a reason as to why I do not . I Get irritated a lot with a lot of light novels and stuff and everything else . It's why I'm on the future that keep pushing for things like that time I got reincarnated as a slime to keep coming out .

Speaker 3

Yeah , because no , there's so much .

Speaker 4

There . There's so much that has been done within the manga series and the light novel series that you need to animate . It happens . Oh , and I'm gonna be real with you , it happens a lot for some reason , in the isaka genres and the mecha genres that get written , because I myself am a writer , I'm writing to .

I have a ton of stories I am working on one right now that I know for a fact . If I was to not get it animated , people , if I will correction , if I was to get it animated and they and they hit me with a , I smell , one season , 12 episodes , they're gonna be mad . I'd be mad for them Because there's too many of them out there .

There's too many of them out there where it's just like one season , 12 episodes , and and you just like bruh , bruh , thanks , I know you . I know you didn't know you didn't just leave me like this . I know you didn't .

Speaker 3

They thought it was gonna fail and they tried to do a simple contract and then they condensed the whole story . So it's like because even then the bad part about it to the night now was a nice of magic going .

Based on today , let's say I think I'm taking a guess , I don't remember exactly how many it's like six or seven Particular anime only covered like the first two books , like that's literally .

Speaker 2

That's what the first volume .

Speaker 4

It covered basically the first two volumes and that's it , oh , okay .

Speaker 3

And and this , there's still like four to five other volumes to go into that . We're not gonna get they just straight up drop . They said they're not gonna do anymore and it's like . It's like that's literally how much . It's like that the writer puts so much into it and then the worst part about it is to be in here .

Like you know , on the West Coast is very difficult to get these light novels and get them translated . I can't .

Speaker 4

Look , look , this forced me to , and really it was not really a forcing , it was just more so of hey , you know what this right here forced me so badly to Learn Japanese into reading stuff , because I'm not finna , miss out , I be damn .

Speaker 3

That's , that's literally how . So we talk about like , yeah , we got robbed a dead man , one of that realistic , we got robbed , and nice , and magic too there is .

Speaker 2

So much Example I want to spit up . I didn't want to do that to y'all again , not after the last nerdy news special .

Speaker 3

I mean the only other examples we have for us is if it's a blessing that we got full metal Alchemist brotherhood , and then how we boot exorcist with how , like that's how season one went , just completely jump ship from the whole storyline and so we want them having the season two . That had to jump back in time , like that was a whole thing in itself .

Speaker 2

Oh wait , hold on . Okay , you know what ? I'm just gonna go there because , only because , so I don't know you guys was he was . Yeah , I'm just gonna go ahead and say it .

I still think that not only do we need like A reboot of dead man wonderland but I don't know what the fuck y'all gonna do but I know one damn thing how come bringing all these Continuations of shows that we don't give a shit about ?

Speaker 4

Take , hot , take real quick . Hi , take , hot , take . Come be real with you . Right now I'm rich . Right now I'm gonna be mad . I'm gonna be real mad with me . Um , I know how y'all motherfuckers are very , very hot , kind and popular with juju sukazen Right now , as a labor . It's it's in that boring section for me that motherfucker can take hiatus .

I know the fuck I said and I said what the fuck I said , because let me explain to you been true for this and truth when it's , that if you sit here and say no , it has not dropped off , it ain't ever since gojo ass , goddamn , got locked up . Motherfuckers like ooh , got them salt bay . Number two is Impergatory . We can't do shit . Don't get me started .

There are crap , ton of fucking mechas out there .

Speaker 3

No , no no , there are . I'm only agreeing with you . I'm only agreeing with you here on this one because , like real talk , this one , the main reason , like jv , you know , we talked about this . It was like dang , you know , they had the nami extra buffed up . Then he was before . They had to find something to keep the fans hooked in there . Yes , yes .

Speaker 4

I'm be real with you . I'm be real with you . Sure , you brought back another broken motherfucker that ain't got no fucking , no fucking juju of any kind of kind . The magic wise , and he knocked you and he knocked the goddamn cthulhu jr Straight through the goddamn water while partin red . See , like Moses .

Speaker 1

I get it , I get it , I get it , I get it .

Speaker 4

Look , let me take you first and fucking foremost . Rock Lee was already a goddamn blueprint for every other motherfucker that does not have magical powers . I get that , I get that whole heartedly .

Speaker 2

Rock Lee crawled , so the rest of these motherfuckers can swore , and it was even .

Speaker 4

Rock Lee is soaring , so the rest of these motherfuckers can at least have a chance to fly .

Speaker 1

That's all that is .

Speaker 4

Like I said , come , try to keep it with a nice and magic right . I'm keeping it here . That same shit applies over here because , folks , I get it , I get you Right , I get you , I , I get you to think this shit was gonna hold up . It wasn't gonna stand the test of time .

You have a character that calls himself the fucking reaper and literally is a goddamn 10 year old , is a fucking 10 year old . I'm not gonna say his actual age , I don't know . Fuck , I mean , this bitch is a 10 year old . Don't know sexual indie windows when they play right Put like that .

He don't know sexual indie windows when they drop right in front of him . He don't know that a girl fucking likes that bitch dance . But all but you put him into fucking battle , you drop him into battle and that motherfucker is the next

Anime Adaptations and Fan Feedback

, is the next . Goddamn the loose Shoot .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I mean , I think he's called himself the Reaper , and the first thing I thought about was you know , obviously my boy has a the black Reaper .

Speaker 2

Oh , the Reaper of Death yeah exactly .

Speaker 4

My boy is goddamn a one goal , but yeah , all we get is 12 episodes .

Speaker 3

No 13 episodes , one season .

Speaker 2

I'm lucky .

Speaker 4

I smell bullshit .

Speaker 2

It's no game , no life . All over again , gentlemen .

Speaker 3

It is , it really is . It's so much more like , like you said , like we got maybe two . We got like two novels , probably not even the full two novels . You might have spanned through it too , and we still have like a whole another 45 novels before we really actually got into the story . There's so many other kingdoms that we haven't heard about .

You only heard of two kingdoms throughout this whole show . Like oh , and there's literally like six kingdoms in this entire world , but you only hear about two of them . That's , that's it .

Speaker 1

Like that's stupid it feels like Highway Ripper .

Speaker 3

We're like what's going on .

Speaker 4

That's stupid , but I digress . It ain't just , it ain't just on the writers , I can't put it on the right . It's the fans too , because the fans have shown to be not so fucking trustworthy .

Because when you drop something , when you drop something in , sometimes you're hoping you get the right fans , it reaches the right people , and sometimes it might take a minute before it reaches the right people .

Speaker 2

You know what I just remembered one point I was going to make about the my Hero Academia , when y'all were talking about characters that should have been killed off . It's funny how , with Bakugo , it's like , ok , I can't believe that he was meant to be a villain .

And the fact that , ok , hori Koshi not liking Bakugo , ok , that's not new to me , but that's also surprising . I didn't think that was the case , but I'm not surprised because you know you have Toriyama with how he feels about Vegeta , so nothing new .

But my point being is that the fact that he got this With this feedback about how , oh , people actually like Bakugo , I'm like , if I was him , I would give those fans like some serious side . I like what the fuck ? Like weird as they are . I don't know , I don't know the different graphic really , but I don't know , maybe some people like the whole .

Oh well , yeah , he might be a bully , he might be kind of like those bad boy boys , but you know he has potential , we can fix it .

Speaker 1

I mean two different ways .

Speaker 3

So , we could have had what what Gege did with Gojo and just having a whole background of his own screen of this reminder that fans being completely pissed off all the time about what happened to their favorite character . They could have gone that way , yeah Two different ways .

Speaker 1

One you can go to Vegeta route . I mean you turn from the villain into a hero , or the opposite can happen and like , like Marvel or any other shows that is based off of , and you know , the heroes create the villain . They was best friends and then turning to enemy .

Speaker 2

Well , I thought that happened before .

Speaker 4

First off , spoiler warning you just told the entire premise of my hero academia right there , because , legitimately , they make it . Look at , if you look at , if you look at how this is looking . One time line , ladies and gentlemen , is that all the students out of class one eight literally go villain . All because they're going to go and back up Deco .

Because everybody , because everybody is rolling the dice right now against Deco , even being remotely good ever again as far as it goes and concerns looky looky . Deco is going to .

Deco is going to literally destroy big , bad , evil guy , but in the process , he's going to literally look at everybody else and be like I'm tired of the way the heroes are and just going about it . So all the class one eight goes and becomes villains for the sake of him .

The only one that doesn't become a villain is Bakugo , because Bakugo decides that , hey , he needs to be in order for him to be there for his friend . In the end , he's going to just be the person that's always against him .

Speaker 3

And this is another problem .

Speaker 2

You know I was going to mention that , but I was just waiting to my turn .

Speaker 3

This is a whole prime example of why we're saying that nice and magic should have had the full expansion instead of cutting shit out like it did , like really hard .

Speaker 1

So maybe they need to redo it bro .

Speaker 3

And do it .

Speaker 4

Not even redo . Not even redo nice and magic .

Speaker 2

No , you can continue on continue on into it .

Speaker 4

You can , because I'm going to be real with you . I'm going to be real with you . If you're going to do it as condensed as it is , you can keep it condensed a little bit . But hey , give you about two years , about two more seasons . Go season two , season three .

Speaker 2

And plus , with the way like I'm going to speak on the audio and visual , the way OK , the music side OK , fairly up before the general tone . So I'm like it's possible with the visuals . I'm all I'm saying is visually speaking , even with the CGI and whatnot . I feel like you can still use that though , so you don't even really need to change up too much .

Speaker 3

Oh , no , add more . Like the CGI was fantastic . Like every single fight scene was pretty good . It was pretty decent , especially at a time when they like during the mix of 3D that they did , it was nowhere near as bad as like that one scene of Overload when the ghosts like evil demon ghosts .

Speaker 2

Oh right .

Speaker 3

It was like horrendous , or even like it was . We didn't have a horrible 2D scene Like what happened with I have seven deadly sins when we finally got the Meliodas versus Escanor fight . That was been painted for .

It's just like the CGI and 2D animations that they did was fantastic , especially for the time that it was like it came out before those other things and you still did fantastic on how I did it . No , you don't need to redo any of that . Yeah , like I agree , like we do a full agree . They continue on like you have it .

This studio animation has already proved that they can do this shit . They do it fantastically . Just get more in that expansion of the story . Like let's just keep things going in the good way . Like , just give us more . But I don't know . Like , in our honesty , I just don't feel that it will happen . Like I'm what to do .

Speaker 4

Yeah , also , also real quick , real quick to you studios out here , I get it . There are certain things that you call your quote unquote bread and butter , that you're hoping Middle , that you know have to be like yeah , this is what we have to focus on first . Oh , I want you to know some as a fan of high school DxD .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that was thinking about that .

Speaker 4

So as a whole man of high school , dxd and of shows there of they're very similar and in the fact that they are basically waiting in the wings for making sure that , oh yeah , the main show did good , so now we can catch another season . Work on your side shows .

I'm so sorry because this right here , nice and magic , is one of those shows that was literally a side show and that outclass the main show . So there , in my going back to what Tuck has just said earlier , hey , why is it that y'all got some of these shows out here that really should have a high A ?

Oh I really should be not as much worked on as some of these other ones .

Speaker 3

All right Like

Anime Studio Shows and Concerns

.

Speaker 4

I understand you might think this is a fan thing , but it's not . This is just coming from a actual business standpoint . You got shows that can make you money but y'all literally only hit . You hit for one season .

Speaker 3

What bullshit is that I need you to break show . Go ahead , we're in a very hard time .

Speaker 4

Go ahead my bad .

Speaker 2

I'm going to be a break for this Hold on . So I got curious . Let me see who's the studio for this shit again . And OK , studio 8 bit . Ok , cool , cool . All right , let me look them up real quick . Apparently , these guys made infinite straddles . Yeah , we're going to go query on Shinky Tokyo Ravens . Brutagressia , absolute , do you and what else .

That's how I got reincarnated as a flying Y'all , did all that . Yeah , they did the same video .

Speaker 3

Oh no , Like a say . Animation studio is already proved .

Speaker 4

Man , that is right OK .

Speaker 2

I'll wait a minute . Hold on this is all familiar , like wait . Hold on what ?

Speaker 4

the fuck . Hold on , hold on . Excuse me , what the fuck ? I just gave you all praise . I just gave you all praise . You tell me I got to take it back . What does it got there I mean , because that time , because that time I got reincarnated as a slime is a motherfucking kid . I understand that is your bread and butter .

That motherfucking hell is supposed to get out there and keep going . That's the one of the ones I'm hoping you keep going with . Don't fucking fall to look at you . You're fucking up already . You fucking with the church's money already . That's what it does .

I swear to God , mother , if you cut off , if you cut off , real root tempest in mid month , mid motherfucking goddamn greatness , because , goddamn it , if y'all don't go and read this shit , this motherfucker going to evolve again because they touch his motherfucking friends . One more goddamn time . I'm not yet . I'm going to tell you .

I'm going to tell you something . What's going wrong ?

Speaker 3

I'm going to tell you something . God damn it .

Speaker 4

Yeah , oh God , y'all better goddamn . Oh . Oh , I ain't going to tell you . But you little kid , fuck around , don't give me my goddamn show . Keep playing with me , keep playing . I will walk up there to y'all . Don't play with me , like this Y'all have infinite straddles . Y'all have infinite straddles on the list too .

I'm just saying hold on , Y'all got infinite straddles on this list too , and yet y'all won't . Oh , oh , oh . I feel I'm going to rise in Jesus .

Speaker 2

Can I add ?

Speaker 4

something up . Wait , what else we got there ?

Speaker 2

Nice and Magic was released in July 2nd 2017 .

Speaker 3

Yeah .

Speaker 2

That time I got reincarnated as a slime got released October 2nd the year later . Yes , they literally dropped Nice and Magic and focused on reincarnated as a slime .

Speaker 3

That's what I was telling you . I was like a lot of these shows that this one came out a while ago , no .

Speaker 2

No , no , no , no , no , no , no , no . Wait a minute , Wait a minute . They didn't , they didn't . Ok , no , no , no , it was just a second one . My bad , my bad . Apparently , I was about to get really mad because apparently they did the second art irregularly at Magic High School .

Speaker 4

But it was just a second one , not the first season , so I was like wait a minute , you mean to tell me y'all did all this shit .

Speaker 3

Yeah , they had a lawnmower plate . They had a lawnmower plate and they had to pick a shoe and what was dropping it . It was like we're going to drop Nice and Magic . You did Blue Walk 2? .

Speaker 4

First off . First off , all you got to do is slow yourself to fuck that I understand . You got a lot , you got a lot to do , but look , do you not take how Yoshi PD got damaged ? Do you not see what Fire Fancy 14 has become ? Let me tell you something it was hot garbage in 1.0 . It was straight hot garbage in 1.0 .

However , yoshi P came on and said you know what ? I can't let it die like this . He redid it 2.0 only for one . God damn , it was great Glorious . So , so pick up your shows . Don't leave them in the trash . Don't let your kids sit outside and play in the dirt for nothing . Go , let them be great , because y'all got great shit it shows .

Y'all got great writers . Y'all have great writers on your team . Ain't no way in the fuck I'm leaving all these shows at one season Because you just like . We got a lot on our plate . Take your time when you know you're fixing to do one is going to go for this set of mount , alright , cool . Hey , we're going to give y'all this season . You'll be patient .

We're , while we're doing this season , we're going to work on getting you a couple of other seasons out of something else . We're going to rotate them . That way they come in an order , so that way y'all will know . Honestly , I don't know how I do it , I just get some tells rolled up somehow .

Speaker 2

I'm probably gonna say something like oh , there it is .

Speaker 3

You done it .

Speaker 2

All you had to do is mention what the animation studio was I got curious , Like I kept talking about the studio , Like hold on , who did this as we , and now look at the workout Like oh my God , it makes so much sense now .

Speaker 3

Like , obviously the animation was top tier quality in the show . That's what I'm saying . And so there's a reason behind it . Look who did it . And you like ? That makes sense . That's all you can say at that point . You like , yeah , it makes sense .

Speaker 4

Yes , that makes sense . The animation for this is really really good .

Anime Discussion

But you telling me that y'all just man . You can't fumble the ball like this .

Speaker 3

What's your idea ?

Speaker 4

Like when they say you fumbling the bag , y'all fumbling the bag badly . Y'all got shows that are basically just being called one hit wonders . Like y'all got several of these motherfuckers . I don't give a damn . That would be at least two to three , two to three fucking seasons on each one . If you ended it at two or three seasons , I would complain a bit .

Speaker 2

Yeah , at least two . Two just seems fair .

Speaker 3

Oh , I'm sorry All right .

Speaker 2

But , um , aside from all that , you know , I just want to just throw in there out of nowhere , like can I ?

Just when we were talking about Ernestie , where his passion for being a night runner and a designer for these silhouette nights it rekindles my interest in Mecca , because maybe one day I'll end up evolving my skillset in order to get into the business of making my own machinations with additive manufacturing fancy way of saying 3D printing and based on a past passion

of mine to where in childhood , I always thought , you know , it would be cool if I had like a whole team of meta bars . You know how meta bars is pretty much a Pokemon clone . So , just have like a team of meta bars , like , just like , have like , um , you know , garage of them and just have no running around . Who knows if you could do really .

But I just there's just something about this anime , well , this series , to where I'm like , yeah , like it's just criminal how some of that hat potential just dropped the ball on it . So , um , I got anything else you want to add on to nice and magic specifically .

Speaker 3

I don't really have anything else to add on to it . We pretty much had a rant . It wasn't much in this show . And it's not . It's just the fact that it was . They didn't give it the justice in it . That's all I got .

Speaker 2

Well , I will also say it kind of .

I like , kind of like that , even though you know it's a fictional story , but the way they try to explain how the night runners work , you know , like they try to do the upgrades , where at one point there was this part where , oh , let's you , let's kind of imitate the human muscular system in the mix , where essentially we get these wires and kind of intertwine

them kind of like the muscles in our bodies and it's like what kind of function like that , so kind of increase their efficiency and all that . And I was like yes , yes , of course . Let me write that down real quick . There was a lot of scientific things Okay .

Speaker 3

So we didn't expand so much into that one , but that's pretty much the biggest highlight of this , this anime yeah , it makes you feel you're learning something , even though it's just man . Oh yeah , it reminds you like Dr Stone . Like Dr Stone it teaches you about medicines and natures and like basic ways that you can understand .

And in this one is like a lot of people love mecha anime but don't really I'm not majorly into it as far as like how do they work and things like that , like I'm not . It's like I like mecha anime but I'm not really into like mechanics and building stuff like that .

And this one is definitely for those who are like it's so much expansion , so much discussion into that . And so it's really great to have .

Speaker 2

Right , all right . Well , if that's all we got , then let me just go ahead and roll into our conclusions . Where rating If I'm going to include the light novels , because I know they had a lot of shit Um , I would say nice and magic gets a 3.5 , maybe a generous four out of five stars for me because the light novels had way more story and drama .

But even then , I believe Ernest , he pretty much steamrolled through the store even though he did earn it . But mostly it's more like he didn't have to like really struggle that hard , whereas like it didn't take him that long to like , you know , kind of pick things up and kind of figure things out .

And it's disappointed that this series didn't get that much attention , maybe because mecha and east cut is getting like skipped over in recent times , because you know , with mecha it's wild how there's like way less mecha fans .

So I'm really glad y'all , I'm really glad that y'all friends of mine , because I'm like bro , it's just sad how I'm like I don't find that meeting mecha enthusiasts that these days . Excuse me , I'm kind of .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I'm not really into a lot of mecha anime , but one of my favorite anime of all time Just anime in general and it just happens to be a mecha anime called Gears it's on my top five .

So if I'm comparing it to that on a scale of five , then I would give it like a two , but if I'm comparing it like isolating it by itself , I'll probably give it about a 3.7 out of five . It really gave me that .

It resonated and gave me that feeling If you can recall because y'all watch so much anime that feeling when you first started watching anime or certain shows . So just give me that nostalgia feeling . That's what it really gave me when I watched it . It made me actually want to watch mecha anime that you know . I don't know any other good one .

Speaker 2

You know what I think ? I think , in my opinion , mecha anime is like the root beer of anime world . It's not bad , but not a popular choice in general , and it's like , if you got a taste for it , feel free to indulge , but with nice and magic .

I would recommend this anime as part of the what I like to call the mecha anime starter pack , where , you know , I would just recommend some anime shows that I would , you know , kind of ease people into it .

Like I want to suggest Mobile Suit Gundam right out of the way , because , boy , let me tell you , if you're going to get into Mobile Suit Gundam , you better strap in , because there's a lot Like almost every season is at least 50 episodes .

Speaker 1

It looks like very different iterations of it or something .

Speaker 2

Yeah , like multiple universes and whatnot .

So I'm like saying , okay , let's save that to once you get a taste for mecha anime and let me start you off with something like , say , girl Laganne , evangelion , code Geass , full Metal , panic , reca , seven , eighty six , maybe big O you know a lot of mech anime that I want to mention , but at least with those seven , including nice and magic , it'll be much

easier to get into it . Like mobile suit gun was more like all in franchise , where you guys leave clear to start a pack first if you're , if you never Watch the mobile suit gun before .

Speaker 3

It depends . Some guns Is okay as a starter .

Speaker 2

Like yeah , Jesus Gundam is one .

Speaker 4

I Amlet orphans , maybe so so let me go ahead and put this to bed real quick . Said people can really understand . This is from the mecha head himself . First and foremost , to give my quick rating , I give it a 3.5 On the scale . First reasoning is because of how short , how short it could be as far as it , as far as any other Gundam series .

That being said , if you are just getting into Gundam or you just getting to make an anime , this is one of the ones I would recommend . Why ? Because a lot of people are not ready for what truly is mecha .

Mecha is that genre that they tell you when you go into it , don't , don't , don't , get attached to too many people , because yeah , they may not , they may not be there the next episode or the episode after the pin .

Speaker 2

Is that why the girl are gone ?

Speaker 4

because that's how they get you so it's , yes , it's like game of thrones on . Mecha anime is , in general , literally Will have you like a character and that character gets killed off . Not all of mecha anime does that , because I'm not gonna lie to you build divers , build divers and build fighters another good set of series .

They both don't really do that as much , but it pushes your heart strings a little .

Speaker 2

Honorable mention , I want to say , now that they come to mind , I want to say a guilty crown and story driver .

Speaker 3

I like those . I'm gonna just throw him through this sound real quick . So my rating on to this one , be honest with you , I'm gonna just give it a solid three , not three point one . So the thing about is this I woulda gave , I gave four original . When I first watched it it did feel like , but the animation was like really good .

It still was pretty easy to kind of move along with it until I Understood what was really in those light novels and how much was completely cut out and how much the story was robbed Still want to being good . So I still keep it into the higher scale three . Well , you can count that higher is really medium .

But understanding into that aspect because I also have to rate it as fantasy club president In the fact that there is no real fantasy into this one of things that , yeah , this is also important too . There is also a lot more detail into these demon beasts as well . Like I know , we kind of know we kind of did a quick roast on to a JB here .

The quick roast on to it Could have came up with a better name into it and stuff . There was a better name in a light novel Apparently don't exactly know what is because I can't translate it , but there was a better name in a light novel and apparently also there was a reason that these demon beings were attacking .

So there was actually a whole fantasy world that was built in light novels , along with more political aspects as well too . So , understanding with how much is actually robbed from the light novels into this anime , I had to significantly drop that score to a three . I guess you know good enough to that point , but that's fair .

Speaker 2

That's why I say 3.5 to a generous four , because the main reason thing is I would have given a three but I gave a 3.5 because of how it kind of appealed to the mecha enthusiast and Whoever is listening and this .

I gave it that , that bonus extra , but then I gave the four a generous four because I included them light novel , as far as the whole franchise like I counted .

Because the anime was so sure I felt like only fair that if you saw the light novel , okay , you might bump that score up a little bit , but other than that it would be like a solid three , if I'm not being generous with the whole and well , at least it kind of appeals to people who already have an interest in mecha .

Speaker 3

Yeah , well , it's a concern in fact that I haven't read the light novel . I've only know about some of the stuff that's in it , some of the aspects that's in it . I can only rate just the anime fair , like I can't actually Rate into knowledge that I don't I myself have not had a chance to touch into . So this is only for me onto that aspect .

But I also getting no , this was a mix of mecha and fantasy was how this was written . It was actually a great supposed to be a great balance of both , from what I'm understanding , from my understanding of the light novels .

So I have to be more critical in that aspect as fancy club president , because you're telling me you robbed the fantasy out of it and I'm like , excuse me , mecha and magic , and the only magic we got is just like some damn sci-fi lasers , like , okay , come on , that's supposed to be more there , like , come on .

So I have to rate heavily on the fantasy side for me , just got to and but , understanding , I still like mecha . I'm even going as far as into this . It may not be an anime recommendation per se as a starter pack , but if you also like comedy with some anime as what like comedy with mecha as well too . I'd say , watch megas XLR .

Speaker 4

Yeah .

Speaker 3

Yeah , throw that in here as a Chance to just kind of give you want some humor with giant mechs . Action too , as an American made Cartoon is still Itself also has . It's pretty common . It's pretty good on to that aspect as well too .

It's it's kind of short , but at the same time as there's no main story , there's a little storyline to follow , but it doesn't have the focus on that . It's just a bunch of wacky adventures with a giant robot , and that just it's pretty awesome in itself too Is a way kind of give you an idea of like hey , so giant robots could do this and this and this .

Yes , they absolutely can't . There you go . But that's all that I got to say . So I am pretty much done on for that one for me .

Mecha Fandom and Future Podcast Plans

Speaker 2

Yeah , and you know what , now I think about it , I'm kind of surprised that there's not somebody that's like a little at least a little bit Interested in mecha , considering all the shit that we had going on in , like to Nami and Cartoon Network . Y'all remember somebody on Titan , right ? I ?

Definitely yes , yeah , I'm thinking something like that was like okay , y'all , y'all didn't have like passing interest , like y'all never watch toys or some shit , like okay , you know . Okay , fine , I guess I'll just have my small group of mecha fans here . But anyways , that concludes our review . I Think you all for listen to us rent a room until the end .

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