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Hunter x Hunter: The Xtreme Review (Phantom Troupe & Greed Island)

Jun 25, 20241 hr 53 min
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What drives a person to seek vengeance, and what are the consequences? This episode of our podcast brings you an in-depth exploration of the Phantom Troupe arc from Hunter x Hunter, featuring special guests Kokugatsu and Mira Jane. We begin by scrutinizing Kurapika’s relentless pursuit of the Phantom Troupe, who mercilessly annihilated his clan. Witness how Kurapika’s mastery of the NEN system and his unique chains, tailored to subdue the Troupe, play out in his fierce battle with Uvogin and the chaotic events at the auction. The episode also covers Gon and Killua’s quest for Greed Island, laying the groundwork for future arcs.

Kurapika and Gon are two sides of the same coin, but what sets them apart? We take a magnifying glass to these characters, contrasting Kurapika's strategic brilliance and his eyes of vengeance with Gon's unyielding determination and moral complexity. Through an animated debate, we dissect the varied adaptations of Kurapika's defining fight scenes, weighing the 90s version’s thematic layers against the superior choreography of the 2011 adaptation. Hisoka’s enigmatic nature and twisted motivations are also given a spotlight, as we draw parallels between him and other iconic characters like Goku and Itachi.

Greed Island isn’t just a game; it’s a narrative bridge to something far greater. We delve into the mechanics and underlying implications of this mysterious game world, theorizing its connections to the Dark Continent and the broader Hunter x Hunter storyline. This episode is a treasure trove of insights, from the card system intricacies to the moral quandaries faced by our beloved characters. We conclude by emphasizing the importance of the author’s continuation of the series and share our excitement for the forthcoming Chimera Ant arc discussion. Join us for a nuanced and passionate discussion that promises to deepen your appreciation for Hunter x Hunter.

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Phantom Troop Arc Review

Speaker 1

all right nerds , we are here in the phantom troop arc of the hunter . Hunter extreme review kokugatsu . Thank you for joining us for this part , because I do apologize for butchering that last part .

Speaker 2

I'm still mad as hell . How the fuck did y'all fuck up explaining the NIN system ?

Speaker 1

I'm sorry .

Speaker 2

It's a complicated system , I guess .

Speaker 1

Some people have trouble understanding .

Here's the funny thing as I was Trying to Rewatch Excuse me , I'm trying to rewatch Hunter x Hunter and get to the York News City Phantom Troop arc , I'm starting to realize that , yeah , with the NIN system there's like more complications to it , like how with some NIN users they have conditions , like with Kurapika , and in fact let's go ahead and talk about this

arc just a little bit . Just a quick summary , because here's my thing . I meant to tell you this off the record , but I might as well . Let it be clear , I'm going to do a summary . I know I'm going to be skipping over a whole bunch of details , but that's the thing .

Speaker 2

I'm just going to do the summary , and then we'll deep dive into the details after that as old as this anime is , and also considering the fact that it had a whole remake in 2011 as well too . I'm hopeful that , if you guys are watching this , that y'all , if y'all listen to this , that y'all have already watched it .

But if not , it's okay , we're gonna go over some major details . So I'm not gonna lie , we're spoiling some shit heavy . I encourage you to watch it , but if not , it's okay , we're gonna go over some major details . So I'm not gonna lie , we're spoiling some shit heavy .

I encourage you to watch it , but if you just want to tune in , we're here , go ahead , jb gotcha all right .

Speaker 1

So for this art , specifically , the phantom troop party , what we got here is how kurepika essentially hold on for one moment . Uh , we are now being joined by Mira Jane . Um , what's good , mira Jane hello , what's up not much . You came at the perfect time .

I was just about to dive right into the phantom troop arc , now phantom arc , kurapika is essentially the main character of this arc because keep in mind that with the Phantom Troop , aka the spiders , they're responsible for Kurapika's family being killed .

So while he's going out to try to kill them , gon and Killua is Getting this mysterious box that was given to Mito by Jing , who Essentially is trying to entertain this idea of Gon trying to Find him . So he's like Okay , let me just give him this box , and this box can only be opened Once he becomes a hunter .

So essentially , gon and or Killua pretty much piece together how , uh , they use their hunter license and a little bit of nin to open the box . Uh , kind of like the box animals from motherfucking reborn like . I can't wait till I do that review . I'm sorry , but , um , quick review , uh , on this arc , I'm sorry .

Essentially they're trying to obtain one , a copy of greed island , which is a video game where essentially you have this whole tron isekai experience where you get sucked into the game and whatnot , and that would be a , um , another clue , another mcguffin towards going trying to find his father . But we find out in this art .

Well , not really find out in this art , but it's more explained in this art how jing don't really care if gone finds him , because jing is more concerned with some sort of adventure or some sort of mission that goes beyond his responsibility as a father , and I'm like father of the year over here .

But yes , while all this is going on , kurapika is trying to do his mission to kill off the Phantom Troop and it's real funny how he was considered the chain dude by going and his friend uh , because they didn't really know who he was . Like that's how clever it was with paku , the uh mind reading big titty lady , uh , who can read minds .

Uh , fucking um , try to probe them from information . But because they didn't really know kurapika , like that uh , that served to their advantage . But essentially kurapika had these chains to where there's these conditions with these chains ?

And it's funny because he had this cold ass line I think it's in the 90s version to where he was saying that these chains are solely for the spiders , their sole purpose is to capture them and deprive them of their liberty , and I was like , ah , that's cold . So essentially , kurepika ends up going up against Ugo Oben .

He brought a fucking shovel to the fucking fight and beat the shit out of Ugo . But I'm going to explain a key difference in that fight later on , with the assistance of Kokugatsu . And essentially there's this massacre at the auction where a copy of Greed Isle is being held , the Zoldyck , um patriarchy .

The father and grandfather uh showed up and fought , crollo uh . What else ?

Um , this whole bunch of webbed , intertwined bullshit between kurapika gone , kil Killua , the Zoldycks and , of course , the Phantom Troop and also Hisoka obviously , and it ends off pretty emotional , fairly emotional depending on what version of the anime that you've seen , but overall pretty good arc . Now I will turn it over to Kokugasu .

How you feeling about the phantom troop arc ?

Speaker 2

all right . So , first off , understanding into phantom troop in york new city arc is , uh , the second longest arc in the entire series but grievably one of the best arcs um , and the fact that we get an opportunity to not we still get to see Gon and kind of get an understanding of what led him to getting there .

But we mostly get an opportunity of diving into other characters . It's one of the things that a lot of people are upset about now in the Hunter x Hunter manga because currently Gon still is . Without spoiling it , gon is still out of the picture at the moment . He's not our main , even though he's still the main character . We're not following him .

We're now following Karapika again as he's moving into , as he's going through his , he's going through the Dark Continent and getting more information and stuff .

So this is our first time we're really getting a chance to dive into our other characters as far as like their storylines , their back lot , their backstory of how it's affecting their lives and how they are going to affect and change the world . So , understanding first . Then . Uh , game does not want gone to find him like at all , like whatsoever .

It's not a game per se , it's one of those things of like he . He had this as a just in case he .

He literally told mito , I don't want him to find me , I I don't want him to come after me , tell him I'm dead and hopefully he just is cool with that gone , only pursued because he had a feeling that something was , that there was something more and Mido did a pretty good job at really hiding that shit .

But understand , gein does not want Gon to find him whatsoever . He does not . He's the ultimate . I'm Gon . I don't want to be a daddy , fuck that , I'm good . He literally had this as an entertainment . He's like , hey , all these things that he had set up was stuff that he felt would entertain his son more than finding him .

That was the whole point of this whole thing and we'll get further into it in the greed art , if I'm able to be on there , because you know life situations happen . But still , if I'm able to be on the greed art , I'll explain through Gein's friends about what it means , because life situations happen .

But still , if I may be able to read art , I'll explain through Gein's friends about what it means literally in the fact that Gein absolutely did not want Gon to find him whatsoever . It was a straight up serious thing . He's like I do not want him to find me , so that whole puzzle .

First off , he was never supposed to get a hero's license , but that's a hero's license , I'm so sorry . A hunter's license you know what ?

Speaker 1

no , no , I'm sorry , but that just reminds me of when Deadpool finally got his license and the look on his face when he got that license , and that's what I'm picturing right now .

Speaker 2

Gon Gon , exactly .

Speaker 1

Gon was not supposed to get a fucking hunter's license , so when he got , one it was already you know it's crazy in this arc , in order to get the reward money , in order to get enough money to get the greed island game , he sold his license exactly is that supposed to be ?

Speaker 2

that everything was made so much more impossible for the fact that for gone to find him , it was on purpose . This was an absolute fail safes to make it so that way gone would never find his dad . That was the main end goal . There was no , this wasn't a game of like oh , I'm gonna play around if you want to find me .

No , he literally just put this whole shit together . It's like do not find me . Even in the video he says hey , if you want to find me this might be a hint , but I'm gonna be honest with you I really don't want you to find me . He literally says that shit in both the old version and the newer version and in the manga .

He literally puts in the recording that he says I don't want you to . He told his own son I don't want you to find me . Matter of fact , let me tell you about your mom , which we never hear about , because gone says no , fuck that me , tells my mom . So fuck all that . I don't need to know about that .

But like on some real shit , though it's gonna , from what our understanding is , is that gone's mother is actually a very important thing to Gon .

Not so much as far as like for him per se , but more so the fact of , like Bleach , why it is that Ichigo's dad is actually very important to the story , even though he doesn't seem important until like much later on first day . It's kind of one of those things situations .

But yeah , so from our understanding , gong's mother is supposed to be important to gong's development and stuff like that , but it's just too early for us to know . So we've gotten that subtle hint and then we kind of move on from that type of thing .

Character Analysis in Anime Discussions

Um , karapika has always been my favorite , just to be straight up with you . Uh , scarlet eyes , this is the original sharingan before sharingan . Yes , this came out before naruto , so naruto copied this we come out in 98 exactly naruto copied this . Oh , y'all people's like naruto is the ultimate . Everything's that no ?

Speaker 4

fucking did not . I mean , technically the original is the jagan eye , but we ain't gonna go there even still .

Speaker 2

Well , come on , actually keep in mind . On to this , based upon the writer , jagan eyes actually wound up , even though it was supposed to be the original . That came later on and as far as in the writing . So that's a whole different discussion . We're not naruto , but that's a whole different discussion .

Speaker 1

Oh , I had a . I had a joke that was like I don't know if it was in terrible taste or not it might be assuming that it is go ahead and say it I feel like kishimoto pulled a jk Rowling at the last minute .

Speaker 2

Star Wars . Not surprised , but Kurapika has always been my favorite , specifically in the fact that he's like . I like his story , but I like the fact that he is the most intelligent motherfucker of the whole group . It's like no question today . Killua is always the muscle . Killua was definitely a favorite of mine , but all the way up until this arc .

This arc is what solidified Karapika being my favorite , just in all honesty .

Speaker 1

They both got that dog in them . Most definitely , hold on . Speaking of the one guy that Gon was talking to , that shady appraiser , here's the thing Ghosn , in this arc , proved that he don't give a fuck about your morality . He's like he don't care if you're shady . All he cares about is the gold at hand . He only cares about finding his father .

So if he has to deal with people who might not be exactly good people in order to advance his goal to find his father , uh , that's just how it is . Like he's just straightforward , like he's not really naive . It's just there's more nuance to going than I thought there was .

It's just more like he's not stupid , but at the same time , it's like he's trusting and at the same time , he's willing to trust shady people as a means of trying to get what he needs to do . You know what I mean .

Speaker 4

That's what makes Dawn such an interesting character , though , because it's not the same as a lot of other protagonists , where it's like I'm all good and I'm all for the good and everything has to be perfect and great , kind of like no Offense , midoriya . But what . What do you ?

Speaker 3

mean no Offense , midoriya .

Speaker 4

You didn't even know .

Speaker 3

Where is my boy ?

Speaker 4

at . You talking about my boy , my boy .

Speaker 2

Midoriya has a .

Speaker 4

We're talking about Midoriya , not my boy . Yes , but anyway , that's what makes Ghosn Simply a completely different protagonist .

Speaker 3

Ghosn and Midoriya is not comparable .

Speaker 2

Yes , they are .

Speaker 3

Midoriya way , way better than Ghosn is not comparable . Yes , they are Midoriya way better than Gon . Gon ain't even changed his shorts . You know , what Both of their daddies not there ?

Speaker 2

Now that I think about it , Actually , what is the reason Midoriya's dad isn't there ? He on business there , he on business .

Speaker 3

He on business . Regular anime dad he always on the scene .

Speaker 4

You know what , nah ? That just further proves my theory that His daddy was that doctor .

Speaker 1

No , his dad got a fire quirk .

Speaker 3

His dad got a fire quirk and His dad got a fire quirk and it's supposed to play into the final arc of the story somehow . I don't know how . It don't make any sense .

Speaker 4

I know , I know .

Speaker 3

I thought his dad was going to be . You know what I mean . It was going to be a one for all , all for one kind of thing Y'all been talking about my boy , Carapica .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I was talking about my boy Carapaca .

Speaker 3

yeah he bring a chair to a fight no , he brought a shovel yeah a chair , basically .

Speaker 1

I was saying that . How , if it was me , I would have been like okay , I'm pulling up with the folding chair , the shovel and a pack of twisted teeth brought a shovel to the fight , though that's crazy .

Speaker 3

Up with the folding chair , the shovel and a pack of twisted teeth . Bruh brought a shovel to the fight , though .

Speaker 4

That's crazy , bruh . That was a great fight . That's crazy . Now hold on .

Speaker 1

I like how y'all mentioned the fight , but let me talk about the fight Now . The 2011 version great , yes , but the 90s version was slightly better . What ?

Speaker 3

Thematically I thought we were on the same page , but the 90s version Was slightly better what ? Thematically , I thought we were on the same page .

Speaker 1

Thematically , the 90s version was better . You wanna know why ? Because , keep in mind , kurapika does not like hurting people , let alone killing people , and the music Pretty much complimented the fact that he has to kill this guy .

Even though he's responsible partially responsible for the death of his family , he still has to fight and kill this person in order to pretty much um fulfill this contract that he has with this chain that he got and he was even feeling like torture , like this eternal conflict , this pain that he was even feeling like torture , like this eternal conflict , this pain

that he was feeling , that even though , yeah , he killed this guy , but he still feels some type of way about it , the 90s version delivered that way better than the 2011 version , but the 2011 version was better from a fight sequence .

Speaker 3

The artistic . I got a question now because I only seen the 2011 version . I knew they remade it it , but I figured it was like Full Metal Alchemist , full Metal Alchemist , brotherhood type of thing . The storyline was confusing and they had to tie it all back in together . That wasn't the case .

Speaker 1

Nah it's just more like some things that was carried out differently in the manga and the older version than the newer version . But , to be fair , there , the older version than the newer version . But , to be fair , there's some things that the newer version did better than the older version , like , for instance , the massacre at the auction .

Now in the older version they like made it sound like , okay , they're just popping off and killing people out of nowhere . There was like no context , but in the newer version they fleshed out why everybody was there , who's the main players and all that . There was more build up in the newer version . So I appreciate the newer version for that part .

But also , uh , the main guy to gossy who make all this shit . Sometimes he has a bad habit of over explaining shit that doesn't need to be over explained , like there's just some things to where show us , don't tell us .

And there was some parts like how , um , for instance , that part where , uh , they were trying to explain hisoka or on crollo's , uh abilities and everything , and they were trying to over explain how their abilities were . I'm like , no , let the audience uh figure it out , you don't have to hold like , yeah , like you don't have to hold the gun and stuff .

Yeah , like you don't have to hold our hands about it . It's like the mysteries and the theory to where , like we need to figure out how it is , and then , once somebody come up with a theory that the most solid , now it's like oh , yep , that's it .

Speaker 3

Yeah , let us , let us guess a little bit .

Speaker 4

Yeah .

Speaker 3

We like to argue amongst each other ? No , that ain't it bit . Yeah , we like to argue amongst each other ? No , that ain't it yeah . You know , as my former position hell , you know , I am the retired ninth Hokage .

Speaker 1

Add the work and the title .

Speaker 3

Emphasis on the hope Retired , might I add ?

Speaker 2

Oh , my God .

Speaker 1

Hold on to be fair , mira Jane . I know I was supposed to be doing this before , but , mira Jane , how you feeling about Hunter Hunter as a whole ? Because I know you and Tuck are just joining the Hunter Hunter Stream review so I figured let's Try to rewind a little bit . How are you feeling about Hunter Hunter as a whole ?

Speaker 4

Overall , hunter Hunter Is an Try to rewind a little bit . How are you feeling about Hunter x Hunter as a whole ? Overall , hunter x Hunter is an amazing anime , definitely in my top 10 . I ain't gonna even lie , even though it ain't even finished . Is it gonna ever finish ?

Speaker 1

Who knows ? Okay , hold on , hold on . First of all , I'm still kind of mad that they did not animate the rest of the manga , because that would have been great . But on a somewhat unrelated note , because this does remind me of how some shit makes a comeback . A little bit of nerdy news , but whatever .

Mira Jane , how are you feeling about Fairy Tail's 100 Year Quest coming right around the corner in summer ?

Speaker 4

My nigga , my nigga , my nigga . I knew that shit was going to happen , didn't nobody believe me when I said it ? I said it was going to come . Everybody was like , nah , they ain't going to do it . My nigga , my nigga , fairy Tail making a comeback , and I'm so excited I can't even lie . I'm glad to see Nasu back .

I'm glad to see all of my favorite fairies in action and Mirror J better make a fucking appearance , because if I ain't in it , it ain't going to be me Gotcha gotcha , now Tuck same question . How are you ?

Speaker 1

feeling about Hunter x Hunter as a whole .

Speaker 3

As a whole

York New City Massacre Analysis

. I ain't gonna lie , I'm with Skip on this one , bro . Top 10 , top 10 , top 10 . I ain't gonna lie because , like , it was one of the first ones I watched , like , mind you , I started anime late in the game , so it was one of the first shows I watched . It was , I want to say , it was , one of your recommendations .

Okay , yeah , because it was one of the first ones I watched after .

Speaker 1

Naruto oh right , because I watched it like one good time back in the day and then I recommended it to you and then I had to rewatch . Okay , yeah , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 3

I watched it after Naruto and you said I asked for something similar and you recommended this and , uh , something else . Oh , I think it was fairy tale , um , but I didn't really , I ain't gonna lie , I didn't really like fairytale like that . And well , I did , I ain't gonna lie , I did , but I fell off it because my ex was watching it without me .

That's really what had happened . I watched like the first two seasons and then she started watching it without me .

Speaker 1

Y'all couples killed me to where it's like y'all better not watch it without me .

Speaker 3

I'm like If we start something together , we finish it together . One band , one sound . That's what the songwriter said , you know what I mean .

Speaker 1

I respect it , I really do respect it , but it's almost like sometimes the benefits of being single to where it's like I don't have those restraints . If I want to binge a whole series of anime anytime I want , I will .

Speaker 3

Yeah , but my favorite quote is from Kurapika bro . He said I do not fear death , I fear only that my rage will fade over time .

Speaker 1

Boy what ? When he said it Hold on , Let me break out a drink .

Speaker 3

Oh my God , I relate to that I'm trying to tell you because , boy , that's how I feel right now what ?

Speaker 1

That's like what Killmonger was saying Well , not the same as that words , but almost like the same tones , where it's like .

You know he said just throw me in the ocean because I'd rather die than share the same fate as my ancestors , and bondage and some shit like that yeah , you messed that up yeah , I messed up but yeah , I feel you though it was the same kind of tone and yeah , carapacabra became one of my favorite characters because of his whole arc .

Speaker 3

This whole vengeance arc was necessary for him , for character development , for completing his story , for just making sure everything came full circle .

So , starting at the beginning on why he was so reserved and what his plans were , and then eventually , my boy brought the shovel out yeah and when I found out what them chains was for , they serve a specific purpose .

Speaker 1

Bro , what my boy was cold with it oh hell , yeah , it's funny because I was just telling uh about that and everything . So , yeah , um , and also , speaking of which , with the chain events unintended , with uh uvo dying , now the phantom troop is after uh koropika .

Like how I said that uh paku , the mind reader um , was trying to get information on who was responsible for all this and eventually that led to them all showing up at the auction . Um , funny enough that the phantom troop they got bounties on their heads , so going to kill a figure .

Oh well , we turn these guys and we get enough money to go to the auction and get creed island . Cool , cool , cool .

So that's when the whole plot points converge , where uh kura pika um reunites with the gang um , pretty much build them in on what's going on and kura pika finally feels like oh well , you know , since uh , we in this together , I might as well trust y'all enough with the truth and blah , blah , blah . So he gave his exposition and they made their moves .

They had this very clever plan to where , okay , with Leorio and everybody , essentially they're gonna pretty much get the jump On the Phantom Troop at 7 o'clock At a certain date I think it was September 3rd , somewhere in that area and essentially they're gonna get the drop on the Phantom Troop . And while Gon and Killua deal with Paku , kurohika captures Chrollo .

Right after Chrollo Fought Daddy Zoldyck and Granddaddy Zoldyck and pretty much faked his own death , but you know he survived , obviously . But Chla was feeling unfazed by being captured by kurapika and pretty much was uh , had the phantom troop wrapped around his finger orchestrating the whole thing .

And then all this shit led to how paku had to go to the airport I think it was an airport and essentially had to relay a message with this . It was funny because I think the way she did it was she shot , like information to the other phantom troop members with this gun .

It was kind of I'm sorry for the hitman reborn references , but it kind of did feel like with reborn when he shoots those um bullets at people and just instead of killing them , he just give them something . Uh , yeah , pretty good .

Um , I'm sorry , rambling and shit , but um , anybody else want to add on to york new city , like with the massacre and how they handled the rest of ?

Speaker 2

I feel like we're missing out a very key player here , who got very pissed off at karapika because they had a plan , a secret plan that karapika purposely withheld from his friends , and I'm talking about Hisoka himself .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I figured you would say Hisoka , like , yeah , now , keep in mind Hisoka , his whole thing was . Here's why I say Hisoka reminds me of Orochimaru . In a sense , they both infiltrated this group With their own goals . Like , keep in mind , same thing with the Phantom Troop , same thing with Akatsuki .

The members have their own goals , but they're pretty much joined up with this team because , um , to an extent , their um group project goal is like somewhat convenient for them .

But my point being is that hisoka reminds me of orojima in the sense to where , yeah , I'm on this team , but I'm not really a part of this team because I'm really just trying to get closer to this one dude , like how Orochimaru wanted Itaki's eyes and Hisoka yeah , or Sasuke , while Hisoka just wanted to kill Chrollo .

Hisoka's Motivations and Tactics

I think it was just like a challenge thing , like , well , it's like he's like a strong motherfucker , it's like he's like this strong . It's like I , I just need to fight this guy , I need to beat him . I don't know , I don't know what it's about I think it's more than the manga .

Speaker 2

Hisoka gets hard for battle . That's pretty much oh yeah , he gets hard for battle . He's literally the goku of the series where it's like if there's a challenge he feels like he has to be there , he has to do it . That's just all it is . He likes potential .

He can see that gone has significant amounts of potential , which is why it is that he gets hard , as every time he's around him bravely okay , he's all good , just does not need to be around children at all , whatsoever no , not stop . Don't do that . Clowns are already scary as fuck as is , but bruh him , nope Worse .

Speaker 1

I'll never forget how this dude was staring At those little boys booties so hard . I'm like bro .

Speaker 4

Why you didn't . He really was , though that's all To be around children you know what you right . He is the erotic martyr of this show .

Speaker 3

Hide your kids hide your wife cause and the reason I hide your wife is hide the kids hide the kids hide the kids and hide your own boo . I just don't know if he's like , if he's grooming them so that he can kill them , or grooming them because he's trying to fuck Like . It's confusing , but also .

Speaker 2

The idea is that he's supposed to be grooming them to have a challenging fight . Is the point , because , keep in mind this it's not like he want to smash .

Look , there's only one other character that Hisoka absolutely respects enough , but he , you can tell he has moments that he be itching for a fight , but he still don't want to fuck with that nigga because he knows that that nigga's that nigga and that's Killua's brother .

Speaker 4

Facts , facts which I guess is who was his ?

Speaker 3

boyfriend .

Speaker 2

So yeah , like that's just pretty much how it is . He do be wanting to fight , but at the same time he be like I really don't want to fuck with him , because he is just built different . He is just that person that I don't Anytime . A person just all of a sudden stares at you angrily and a bunch of magical crows pop up out of fucking nowhere .

That's making an Itachi reference . Jinx , you owe me a soda .

Speaker 3

We said it at the same time , itachi done , put a crow down my throat in season two . That didn't pop back up till season seven .

Speaker 1

I did like how that one scene where Hisoka and Illumi , how Hisoka was kind of playing With Illumi saying like Hmm , I wonder how would you feel If I killed your brother Killua ? And then Illumi was like you do it and I will end you .

And he did it in the most menacing Way possible , like his hair was standing Up and everything and his hair was long as fuck , everything right and his hair as long as fuck .

Speaker 2

That shit was going all up around . I'm like , bro , what the hell he's like ? It was a joke , it was a play about my brother . He's like oh see , I thought she was being said , I was about to have to fuck your ass up . Thought she was about that day . It was like , but shit , we badged his life for real , but no .

Speaker 1

If anybody's killing that little motherfucker , that's going to be me .

Speaker 3

He was about Toretto , bro . He was family .

Speaker 2

Family . But no , it's literally the fact that Hisoka was upset because Carlo has this reputation about him . It's this fact that he's like he is that strong guy . He is strong enough to the point that he's a dangerous person to to play with . It's one of those things is like , literally . The phantom troop is well known .

The phantom troop never fails , even if members do die , is never the leader . He has been the leader of the phantom troop for ever since it began . He has no one ever questions his leadership because everybody's like he's just that strong and literally . To be honest with you , this is not really so much of a spoiler because it has not been put into anime .

Technically , it's not even considered canon enough yet because it's it's supposedly kind of fam . It's like an ova per se .

But there was like a written out fight , like an actual full drawn out fight between Hisoka and Chrollo when he finally got an opportunity to fight him and Hisoka almost got killed like legit , he was the only person that actually almost killed him .

And that's considering the fact that , remember , hisoka went so far , to the point that he willingly lost his arms back in the tower . So he willingly did that , just so he could prove a point onto something . And in this case Hisoku was pulling out all the stops and legitimately almost died . So it's like Kuro-no ain't nobody to fuck with .

He is a real person to fight , he is an absolute monster and Hisoku is just all into that . But the funniest thing is that Kurapika , after having the conversation we've gone , of course Our main character hit the talk no jutsu . Before talk no jutsu . Just hit the talk . No jutsu . Before talk , no jutsu . Just hit the homeboy conversation .

Hey look , if you give into your rage it won't make it any better . You already know it's not gonna bring no people back . But at the same time I understand your frustration and in the end carlo was just sitting here like bro , I don't really care , it was a job . A job is a job . That's just what it is . He's like I didn't care . It's not was a job .

A job is a job . That's just what it is . He's like I didn't care .

Speaker 1

It's not like I had a personal vendetta against you guys , I just did it because I was paid to do it and I had the skills to do it how , like the coincidence , how crolo was fighting the zoldyx and the zoldyx could have killed Chrollo , but that all ended because , funny enough , illumi was hired to kill their employers .

So I'm like , oh well , shit , our employer is dead , so we don't get no money from this .

Speaker 2

So like whatever and then moved on from it . So I was like , whatever , it's always funny , so yeah , chrollo usually gets out is it true that Illumi and Hisoka are engaged ? What no ?

Speaker 4

That's fan-made .

Speaker 2

No , it's completely fan . No , hisoka don't care about no type of relationship and Illumi has already specifically stated he's actually specifically stated to Killua that relationships will only hold you back and they're worthless . That's how he feels about friendships .

Speaker 1

That's how he feels about relationships .

Speaker 2

Pretty much . That's him onto that Solo all day and he says having care for another person only weighs you down . Considering the fact that he cares about his brothers Solo . What Solo , life Solo leveling . I'm not going to say solo leveling , because he's already max tier level , just real talk . And then he can go to another level .

Dude sticks pins in his face and completely reshapes his face to where you can never recognize him . It changes his entire voice . There is no level above that . There is absolute master of disguise .

Speaker 3

That's not to absolute nonsense Like no my anime logic have told me in my time as a Hokage that there's always another level . There's always another Super Saiyan , another Super Saiyan above Super Saiyan . And when you run out of numbers , you start naming colors Black blue , oh my God , me red blue Anyway , but no , for reals .

Speaker 2

I think the only thing about it is that Mui is the only person we don't know there . We don't know what his nin class is Like , legit , so I guess there could be way worth , I don't know , but we have no idea really what his nin class actually is whatsoever . We , in fact , you never see his nin abilities . That's just how good he is anyway .

Aside from that , obviously , I'm sorry , my bad . So yeahoka Wanzu was getting so pissed off because of the fact that , literally aside from the fact that Kurapika had an opportunity of killing Chrollo and he didn't , so he was happy that that didn't happen , but literally put a bind on his heart and said if you even think about using any type of nin ?

Speaker 1

ability whatsoever . I just did a Google search and they said that Iwami's ninja style is manipulator .

Speaker 2

Oh , really that's so fun . It probably happened in the manga . I might have missed that .

Speaker 1

Oh well , sorry , Sorry , people who only watch the anime .

Speaker 2

I mean , you don't really see it like that , I was just curious .

Speaker 1

But the thing , about it like that .

Speaker 2

I was just curious I was like really but but the thing about it is that he winds up putting a seal on chrollo . Be like , if you even think about using an inability , uh , your insulin is instantly going to pierce your heart and you die . It's literally that point of understanding that literally , he's just like yeah , I really can't use no nin fight .

So then , literally , hisoka's like oh yeah , we finally got this . It's just like , yeah , I really can't use no nin fight . So then , literally , hisoka's like oh yeah , we finally got this . It's just you and me , we about to do this . Let's duke it out right now . And he's like I can't actually fight you . He's like what the fuck you mean ?

He's like I can't use nin , so I can't fight you at all . So yeah , it's going to . So , um , yeah , he said it's gonna be a one-sided fight and his uncle was so damn mad . His face was the dumbest face .

Speaker 4

He's like you gotta be fucking kidding me immediately softened the hard one . He had had it immediately softened completely .

Speaker 1

Look at what you've done to me , how you gonna take responsibility for this .

Speaker 2

I don't . It's not my responsibility , it's yours , ew . But his uncle was so damn mad , bro . He was like bro , what the hell ? This is not fair . This is not what we agreed upon . They literally had an agreement . He so could literally told him crolo is mine , you can have the rest of them , but crolo is mine . He was like yeah , yeah , he got this .

He's gonna be down with it . He would goropika . I still want to fuck over this deal because I just don't like Hisoka like that and I really don't like Chrollo . I think we're going to do this . Just completely fucks over the whole deal . He's like I didn't kill him . We still stuck with the agreement , but I can't get my fight .

I'm like that sounds like a you problem .

Speaker 1

And I'm like that sounds like a you problem .

Speaker 4

In other words , I can't get off , so I don't know what it ?

Speaker 1

is about that , motherfucker , I'm like I just can't stand his ass with his black clothing and his cross on his forehead and shit .

Speaker 3

I hate his gums because they're black .

Speaker 1

I hate how he flicks his hair back the way he does .

Speaker 3

I hate that black ass whistler smack oh my god , I hate every damn ring on his finger .

Speaker 2

Why he always pale Like he always trying to be a our next memoirs of a geisha ass head . I hate that , but no , for real , though , he absolutely hates him . It's funny .

Speaker 1

Looking like he's Shopping straight out . Hot topic looking .

Speaker 3

I bet he don't hate him More than I hate somebody . Probably not .

Speaker 2

Nah we just joking around .

Speaker 1

Like it's a For some reason .

Speaker 3

You know who I hate . The worst person In Marvel history , oh my goodness , please don't .

Speaker 2

Nah , we just joking around Like it's a um for some reason . It's like you know who I hate the worst person in Marvel history . Oh , my goodness , please don't . Let's not . I'm on limited time , let's . You're right , you're right , crowbar . Hmm , but for real though .

So one of the things about it is like it's Okawanda being the most screwed over , even though he was the one who betrayed everyone . And , of course , we'll never forget that Bungie Gum has the properties of both rubber and gum , but still , it's one of those things also . I just had to put that in .

Speaker 1

I'm sorry .

Speaker 2

I don't like how . Bungie Gum just makes me think , so In a sense he's kind of like This's kinda like this is nut , just go ahead and say it , it's his semen .

Speaker 1

I was gonna say it sounded like loopy , but like wow , okay .

Speaker 2

He sticks it . He sticks it on whoever he wants to stick it on .

Speaker 3

His ability Is so in character , like All the Roach in my room junior , it's so in character for him , all the Roach and Maru Jr . Oh God , really .

Speaker 1

He's really the clown that you're supposed to be scared of .

Speaker 2

He's the jester . Oh , that's a fact . He's the jester , he is . He's the jester , the fool , the one who everyone laughs at and looks at funny . Oh , he does magic tricks until all of a sudden everyone is now lying in a puddle of blood on the floor , like that one time .

Speaker 3

What's that ? Serial killer ? You know what I'm talking about . That was the clown .

Speaker 2

Yeah , like the one that's up in .

Speaker 1

Gotham City running around .

Speaker 3

I mean in real life , it was a clown , clown , it was a serial killer .

Speaker 1

It was like years ago .

Speaker 3

Around Halloween time . Yes , john Wayne Gacy .

Speaker 2

Ah yeah , good lord that one .

Speaker 4

Oh god .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , did y'all hear that they're going to try to do like you know how they did the Jeffrey Dahmer Documented monster ? Stop . They're going to try to do like you know how they did the Jeffrey Dahmer documentary Monster .

Speaker 3

Stop giving memoirs . They need to keep that in the dark .

Speaker 2

Stop giving memoirs to these serial killers . They don't need it . What in the world ? It just hurts the family . Hurts the families of the victims .

Speaker 3

I'm saying ain't nobody got no stories ? Ain't nobody made up nothing ? What about fantasy ? Ain't nobody made up nothing ? What about fantasy ? Ain't nobody made up nothing about magic ? Exactly , Come on .

Speaker 4

Y'all ain't heard of Dommerday .

Speaker 2

I'm not going to talk about that . The fact that it's crazy .

Speaker 4

I don't want to talk about the Phantom Troop .

Speaker 3

They're going to play with Al Gore's internet .

Speaker 2

True , I want to talk about the Phantom Troop . They're going to play with Al Gore's internet like this . True , I want to talk about the Phantom Troop itself . I'm going to be honest

Phantom Troupe Auction Chaos Analysis

with you . The fact that someone walks in with a vacuum cleaner and is the most deadliest person in the room at an auction is the scariest thing to me . This is one of those things like oh , this is just a vacuum , it's just a cleaning lady , she's just cleaning , she got a vacuum .

Oh , this vacuum is made purely out of my men and it sucks up whatever I want it to suck up . I feel like there's another thing into that , but we're not going to go into it . Ha ha ha .

Speaker 3

It do my girl oh gosh gosh , but then what that man do wow .

Speaker 2

I feel like I have to make a meme on this now , literally just have to make it you know , I am the whole that didn't sound right .

Speaker 4

Yeah , you're right , I forgot about your poker Hokage .

Speaker 3

I am ashamed of you . I'm the ninth Hokage , but I'm retiring .

Speaker 2

You're retiring . What would happen to Jirai ? Oh God , I can't even imagine what would happen if Jirai actually became Hokage Women's bathhouses are now completely wall-less and roof-less .

Speaker 4

Topless everything , just everywhere , it's for research .

Speaker 3

It's for research . I'll never forget , bro . I'll never forget this one meme . I think you showed it to me , kogasa . I probably did All the hokages came in and she had came in and somebody in the background said you should have let Jiraiya hit . It wasn't me , but I know what you're talking about . Oh god , yes , I thought you did .

Speaker 1

Oh , I did . It wasn't me , but I know what you're talking about .

Speaker 3

Oh God , yes , I thought you did , though , oh , I did . Yeah , you shared that , because , as soon as you found it , you shared it . Of course , it couldn't have worked , but anyway she should have let Jariah in , though . Rest in peace , I'm going to let her go .

Speaker 2

Out of the Phantom Troop , though , seriously , we wound up having like get this really big , Broly guy . I say Broly , you know what I mean by this Broly . He's super strong . His main ability is , of course , enhancement Enhances himself . He's able to take down tanks and all types of stuff .

Probably could wind up showing up just being like hey , hey , and it's like oh , you brought a shovel for your visit , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1

I just came prepared to know your ass . It's funny how you say that you kind of uh , you uh made a Freudian slip by saying broly . But funny enough , this dude kind of reminds me of fucking uh blanca from street fighter a little bit with the hair , you mean you mean you can send the fact ?

Speaker 2

this dude is completely hairy all over his body type thing . I wouldn't even say blanca , I would say what's the other guy's name ? The one that's zangief . That's who he most reminds me of . Zangief is always extremely hairy as hell just for no damn reason . It's like , bro , just get a razor , damn Still .

But no , yeah , but it's like you know he shows up to . Obviously . This is one of those moments that you have , obviously , top tier . Ichigo calls an ambulance , kurapika brings a shovel , yusuke calls the police ahead of time , like this is usually one of those badass character moments .

You're just like all right , we're going to be prepared , because at this point somebody's dying . The shovel could be for me , it could be for you , but honestly , I'm the one that bought it , so I already know who it's for Type of thing . Just walked in prepared and then buried him and the funniest thing , they still never found him .

He was completely just missing . He's just missing , that's it . They're like we have never they never recovered his body . That's even scary and this is one of our heroes that did this Understand . Our heroes not only killed someone , but they never found the body . Dun , dun , dun , like a Smash Bros type shit .

Just saying like unsolved mysteries Doom just disappeared and no one ever . I'm just saying like Unsolved mysteries Doom just disappeared and no one ever knew what he was asking .

Speaker 1

I mean but to be fair , the Phantom Truth Is wanted like they're not exactly Good guys , so it's like oh well , one , the Phantom Truth , died . Good news , I guess .

Speaker 2

Yeah , but this is still one of those things . I'm happy he's dead , but do we know he's dead , or is he just somewhere hiding in plain sight ? Did he get away scot-free , or whatever ? It's one of those things that's a mystery . We'll never know .

Speaker 1

It's just more like okay , we heard that he's dead , that's all we need to know . We need to find a guy responsible for this . We're not gonna try to confirm if he's dead by finding the body , we just need to find out who's responsible for killing him .

Speaker 2

Pretty much pretty much and also the funniest thing about the whole auction show to me is you know , in every anime people are stupid . If there's an attack happening , the obvious choice is to get out . But nobody wanted to believe anything was happening until stuff started happening to them .

Speaker 1

Then all of a sudden you want to try to escape , but now it's too late because you're dead man , this is the part where I'm glad that you mentioned this part , because this is when shizuku shows up using her vacuum cleaner type weapon on that one lady and I like how there was a lot of girls in real life cosplaying as Shizuku .

Speaker 2

I mean keep in mind when you understand what her outfit was .

Speaker 1

I mean , it was so simple , but it was good enough , you know .

Speaker 2

It was a simple fan service . That's what it was supposed to be real talk . But no , it's um . When she showed up , it was one of those ones that I found just very interesting , because her showing up really was an interesting fact of an inability to because by this point we've seen inabilities , like we've seen the different forms of it .

We've had an opportunity to kind of like get an understanding , a little bit more of an understanding , outside of the explanation . That happened in the last episode , but it's okay .

We had a better understanding of what Nen is supposed to be , but now we're getting to see the creativity of Nen , of understanding how it more influences a person , like the most creative thing we've seen Nen was . Of understanding how it more influences a person . Like the most creative thing we've seen Nen was Bungie Gum . At this point , just real talk .

So now we get a chance . It's like oh , my Nen ability , I can fully create an entire construct of my mind and use it as a weapon type of thing . Like that's some next level stuff . Like you just don some next level stuff . Like you just don't think about stuff that's not something you would think about .

Like you would think about men , like how you would use Ki like in Dragon Ball , and I think I actually just shared a core onto that , or Black Clover . Yeah , even like yeah , black Clover as well too , and stuff , whereas , like , you use it to enhance your abilities Huh , push past your limits . Yeah , and it's like so , that way you can see , oh my god .

Hold on .

Speaker 1

You remember when I made that comparison with Hisoka and Orochimaru ? Oh my gosh please don't I forgot that the whole point of Kurapika clan getting killed was because they were trying to find the red eyes possessed by his lineage .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah . That's exactly why his .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I mean , I forgot that part , but I was like not him I forgot how it was .

Speaker 4

like Naruto is a copy .

Speaker 2

Oh my God , naruto is a copy . Naruto literally copied that whole thing . That's literally why a lot of people that's just why a lot of old school anime .

Yeah , like there's a reason why a lot of old school anime like fans like when I say old school , I mean people who watched anime in the 80s and 90s , like anime in the 80s and 90s type , because now work is at an old school . But you know , that's besides the point .

Yeah , no , that's why a lot of people are like yeah , Naruto is not original , this is a straight up copy from previous anime . They're like what are you talking about ? And then proceeds to show like Hunter x Hunter and you're like oh , you know , I've never really heard of this anime before . I've never really heard of this manga .

Okay , let's remake it in 2011 .

Speaker 3

Naruto , first of all , you got this dude that's by himself Goku . And then he wearing orange Goku . And then he got blonde hair . Goku ain't got blonde hair . Wait a minute , Wait a minute , Super Saiyan . Right , it's the same eye color .

Speaker 2

Pretty much , so blonde hair , blue eyes became a big thing in Japan For a long time at that point also . So that's a discussion . That don't sound too good . It's not supposed to . It's literally for the exact reason you think it is .

Speaker 1

Sorry , jb , just real quick . Can I also mention real quick how , if you watch the dub version of the 2011 version of hunter hunter , I just now remember that , um , the voice actor , the dub voice actor , uvo , shares the same voice actor as Dio . Really ?

Speaker 4

Yeah , patrick Saites , I did not know that .

Speaker 2

Let me see it should make sense now . But I'll be honest , I didn't actually watch the dub .

Speaker 1

I might have got that wrong , but hold on , just to double check . I know he's been on a whole bunch of shit , but I know he was Laxus , so in Fairytale , so I remember that , but I'm trying to think he is Dio .

Speaker 2

That's what's up and you know what's crazy .

Speaker 3

You know what's really crazy too . The person that played Gon , the voice actor , also played Gaara in Naruto . Yep , I didn't know that . One the voice actor also played Gaara in Naruto .

Speaker 2

Yep , I didn't know that one .

Speaker 3

And the voice actor that plays Orochimaru also plays Hisoka .

Speaker 4

Wait really .

Speaker 2

I'm about to say I'm like wait what .

Speaker 1

Hold on . He was also in Naruto . He was Tokuma Hyuga , raido , nami Ashi and Shizou not really notable people in Naruto but real funny how he was also in there .

Speaker 2

A nice little easter egg . I know I wasn't here .

Speaker 3

I don't think I was here . I can't remember what arc it was the black girl that was the little butler that was the last arc oh my god but yeah , that was the last arc how you feeling , how you feeling about her bro , she the dope , she inspired so many cosplays , bro . Yeah , she did , bruh , she the dope , bruh , she inspires so many Cosplays , bruh .

Speaker 1

Yeah , she did .

Speaker 3

Oh my . And not to mention you know how much Heart she got . Man , you need her on your team . She just get up and keep fighting .

Speaker 2

She was . We finally got a chance to get a black girl in anime that actually had . She was able to Love her natural hair as it was and it's like there was no need to change it for any type of thing . This is her just wearing her natural hair out as she wants to wear it , and there was no problem , there was no shame to it , she just did her job .

Some people are like , oh well , she's a servant , she's a butler type thing . I'm like okay , but understand who she's the butler for yeah , you can't let that slide .

Speaker 3

It's like alfred bro , you ain't just a regular butler . Yeah , I like how you like literally .

Speaker 1

Well , not literally , but kind of like uh , fucking gandalf when she um was going up against I'm going in Like you shall not pass .

Speaker 2

Pretty much and understand , because you also got to be strong enough to push them gates .

Speaker 3

Yeah , to be a butler and like , speaking of butlers , like , and I mean , when you a butler like you , alfred , now you ain't just a butler for Batman , because Batman , aside you , a butler for Bruce Mayne Bruh . You ain't just a butler for Batman , because Batman , aside you , a butler for Bruce Wayne Bruh . You the highest paid butler this side of Mississippi .

Speaker 2

Honestly , he's paid higher than a lot of people who work for Lex Luthor . So , yeah , he was definitely a very wealthy butler . I don't want to spoil nothing , but just in case . But rest in peace , alfred . Y'all have not read the new comics , what so yeah , don't want to spoil nothing , but just in case . But rest in peace , alfred .

If y'all have not read the new comics , what so ?

Speaker 4

yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , they did Alfred Durden in the new comics man .

Speaker 3

Who had you to butt look .

Speaker 2

Nobody . Batman is in shambles . Literally Nightwing had to knock some sense . A lot of people had to knock sense into Batman to Bruce .

Speaker 3

Now we're talking about Batman or Batman Beyond .

Speaker 2

No , no , no , no . Batman . Like the new comics , Batman is distraught right now because of the fact that Alfred's dead .

Speaker 3

That's his dad , basically .

NIN Ability and Power Development

Speaker 1

I feel like this is the same kind of thing they're trying to do with Gwen Stacy , to where the inconceivable happens , where it's like you wouldn't think that , oh damn , like Alfred's dead . I mean , they kind of try to play that . With what movie ? That was Batman Forever . It was the no , batman and Robin .

Speaker 3

Yeah , it was Batman and Robin , one of the worst ones , honestly we would need more information if they didn't keep remaking the same Batman well , I mean we're now in multiverse theory again .

Speaker 2

So that's pretty much where we're at now .

Speaker 3

They did the multiverse of two-minute Batman . Same Batman over and over .

Speaker 2

All right , so my time's up , but I did want to mention one last thing before I go ahead and go on to this particular arc .

This arc , to me , was still one of the best arcs because we did get a chance , obviously , to explore more about Karapika , but this is also one of the ones where we got a chance to understand his nin ability , because we did get a chance to like dive back into it , um , or understanding how it works for him and understanding also this might also be considered

a Naruto reference , if you may understand this Understanding that once he activates his scarlet eyes , he now his whole mint system completely changes from where his nin ability is . He's extremely far from a special class and as soon as he activates his nin ability , he instantly is a special class and not just any special class .

His nin , uh , his , the amount of din that he has also increases as well , like significantly , and so sharingan makes you super saiyan per se is kind of the idea here . So again , before naruto , still keep in mind on that . But yeah , it's literally like his .

His nin increases significantly , on top of the fact that it also changes his complete class , and being a special grade class is that he has a whole special type of ability that matters into nothing .

But he winds up increasing that even more so by putting a you could say a curse , but a chant on his chains where he infuses all of his special class nin ability , everything that he gets from his scarlet eyes into his chains , by making a condition . As long as he follows this condition , his nin ability is damn near unbreakable , literally .

Even more to the point where crollo is like he's um , some of the other fandom troop members are actually trying to break it and they're like it's , it's difficult .

His nin is , it's immense , it's unexplainable why it's so powerful , but it just is , is one of those things of like , just because he put that condition on top of his scarlet eyes , made it to where , at that point , karapika was one of the absolute strongest nin users in the world from that point , and so it's like it's an imaginable thing , into that , and so

it was great to get an opportunity to kind of dive into the characters of like .

Oh , so there is something that can actually allow them to become immensely powerful , whereas I'm not without jumping into without jumping into the next arc , well , no , not the next art , but the arc afterwards where keelua gets a more understanding of his inability and pretty much becomes a god per se , literally , literally karabiko wanzo , just becoming an immensely

powerful nin user . But then the saddest thing that happens is that he falls off from this point . So that's why some people were very happy into the new arc , where now we're diving back into him again , because after this arc he just disappears . We don't know anything . Anything was going on . We don't know nothing about him anymore and he's just gone .

And so it's like damn , what happened to that god tier dude that we've just like did he ? Did he go after the rest of the phantom troop ? Like did he just say that he gave up ? Like we don't know anything , he just walks off and he removes contact from everybody .

We do see him a brief moment when they try to call him and he sees that he has a call and then ignores it and that was about about it . So it's like dang .

But this one was really great to be able to discuss as far as , like , karapika's starting development , understanding how this past has affected him and how he's like I'm out for revenge to kill the people who took my entire clan from me , sasuke , but I mean literally . It's just like it's a pretty thing , but that's what I have for right now .

My apologies , I do have to go ahead and get off , but what I do plan to do for you guys listening and JB , I know we had we discussed it before . It's been a while , it shouldn't take me long . I might make a quick five-minute video explaining the NIN system , explaining the NIN class system that we can probably use .

So I will probably make a video into that and see if I can . We'll talk about it further .

Greed Island and Manga Adaptation Analysis

Okay , alright , I'll talk with y'all next time . Y'all be safe Later .

Speaker 1

Alright , do y'all have anything y'all next time ? Y'all be safe Later . Alright , do y'all have anything y'all want to add on to the Phantom Tree board ? No , not really oh , you got anything no , I'm pretty good , you know .

Speaker 3

I just I just like I enjoyed it . It was pretty good , art um .

Speaker 1

Shout out to the shovel once again yeah , well , honestly , I pretty much said all I have to say on the arc itself . Um , and kogagatsu did a great job adding detail on essentially . Essentially , ladies and gentlemen , if you haven't already , honestly , if you haven't , I don't see why you're listening to us Talk about it .

Ultimately , I do say , yeah , this art was great . Most of them are Really hoping that the anime Well , I'm really hoping that the arts get animated somehow , but if it don't , then ah well , you know , there's always the manga . So do give the anime a chance , both of the anime , like the older and the newer , if you can , if you have the time .

Um , I know some people can be particular about the art style and everything , but I swear there's just some things that the older version does better than the newer version and then sometimes the newer version does things better than the older version .

So that's why it's kind of like with Fullmetal Alchemist , where , in a sense to where , like , the older , fullmetal Alchemist was all right , but the Brotherhood was more faithful to the manga . So , yeah , that was the only main advantage , brotherhood had it was more faithful to the manga .

Speaker 3

But really with . I do like how it's set up for Green Island art too .

Speaker 1

But I want to say artistically , like I want to say deep level , artistically , I would say give the manga a chance , give the older version a chance , so you might see different tones and what not . In the characters , you see different characterization Compared to the reboot , but of course , the 2011 version Is still great .

A lot of people prefer it , a lot of people love it . So either , or Whatever you pick , but either way , we are going to conclude this part of the hunter hunter extreme review .

Next up is greed island , to where , essentially , gon and keel will get tron isekai into his gang and we just going to explore more into that and then , once we get done with Greed Island , then we get to the best arc of it all , chimera Ant . That's a fact . Until all that happens , it's time to stay nerdy . We are zoning out .

You already know the drill with the links attached to the episodes . You know , follow us on social media if you want to , but for now take it easy . Hunter Hunter , greed Island . Let's go ahead and zone in on this one , koki , I'm not going to lie . Short arc , 17 episodes . Really it was just a matter .

It was like a training arc or more like a formality , to where you know , gon is trying to find Jing and essentially Greed Island is like a clue to figuring out what he is . And that's the funny thing about Jing . Here's what I don't like about Jing .

I was telling Playboy in the last installment when we talked about york new city uh , where , what it was , either york new or heaven's arena yeah , it was heaven's arena because you weren't on for that one , but essentially it's like ding is emotionally manipulating this kid . Like , on one hand it's like oh so you're really trying to find me ?

Huh , all right , well , let me give you some clues . But uh , at the same time you don't give a fuck about going finds him , and then he's , and on top of that he's . I know I'm kind of jumping around , but let's all . Let's be honest , it's not a whole lot to talk about with this arc .

Anyways , like at the end of the arc , kite shows up and essentially showing that , oh yeah , kite's been telling y'all , uh , he's kind of my boy and basically I've been keeping up with y'all the whole time and I gotta say I'm kind of disappointing you , my boy . What are you doing ?

Trying to find me , trying to rely on friends , like what the fuck are you doing with friends ? I'm like bro , like father of the year for real .

But other than that , you know , greed Island is essentially this game where here's the funny thing back in the day , like not the 2011 version , but the 1990 version to where using game technology and anime was almost unheard of , so the way they were going about it was kind of interesting to where you know how , with sword art online .

See , this is why I kind of wish that professor tuck was on , because I was going to make a reference to where it was sort of a line SAO gamified anime . But Hunter x Hunter , greed Island , anime-ified gaming .

That's totally not Mark's words , not mine , but I would just say pretty much much like kind of gave gaming culture that anime appeal to , where , since we go inside this game , you get like isekai'd into this game and you collect these cards , almost like fucking I was gonna say fucking Kingdom Hearts , chain of Memories , and then , um , you collect these cards and

and of course , people gonna try to steal them from you . That's kind of the point of greed island , where everybody's trying to get all these cards to win the game and you have all these different teams where it's team razor , team bomber , and they're doing all these different games .

And there was like this cool dodgeball match with team razor , like it kind of reminds me of dodgeball the movie , and then with team bomber . Oh man , team bomber reminds me of that main dude , kind of remind me uh , what's his face from tenjo tenge .

Uh , like it's almost like almost the same dude , except like different clothes and whatnot , but like it's almost the same . That guy that's like he's always up to something . He's just like that suspicious dude . And speaking of suspicious fucking Hisoka , we get that one part where , oh , he's checking out little boy's booty holes and I'm like bro , like what ?

But you know what ? I'm going to pass it on to you Kokugasu , what's your impression of Greed Island ?

Speaker 2

Greed Island Hold on . I had to do a quick switch on my phone Greed Island . I thought was pretty interesting Because like it was short , yeah , and I do agree with you on one thing you had mentioned that is pretty much a training art . That's true , kind of like a training art , but also one that's like I'm not gonna lie , it's confusing as hell .

Speaker 1

It was okay , it was the same thing with tagashi . With tagashi , I'm sorry bro , like on one hand , it's like you had something going on with the nin system and on the other hand , it's like I've kind of seen the cracks in the formula and whatnot . You know what I mean .

Speaker 2

Like I can't fully blame him onto it , because here's one of the things , one of the things that I know we've talked about before um , on , the very first review that we did on hunter hunter was season one was the fact there's a big difference in the original anime version and the 2011 remake , because the original one had better action scenes and this one kind

of has more of like comedies , a little bit better animation style , because it's newer and stuff . But there's also a vast difference with the manga , because one thing about it is that the manga tells the story by actually fucking telling the story .

Speaker 1

Like you have comic book panels that are filled with novel words , like you're reading a novel , literally like that one scene with the girl and it's like this uh , cybernetic space , you got the helmet on all that shit trying to explain the game yeah so that's how it is with the hunter hunter manga is the fact that it is .

Speaker 2

He doesn't have separate light novels . There's one thing that most manga relies on is that they have a lot of visual tales and then they have light manga to go through the . Uh , but we're not like my light novels to actually go through the detailed explanations and stuff . Hunter hunter does not do that . It mixes the light novel with the manga itself .

So that's the reason why you start having panels that's just nothing but full of words when you're transitioning that to anime . Anime relies on the manga panels to help tell the story , to get things through . They rely on the visualization . That's pretty much what anime is . It's the visualization of the book .

So it's like when you have so much that you're just doing full-on explain , like so many light novel stuff . And a lot of animation studios don't transition novels into shows .

Speaker 1

That's not what they do and some folks will argue to where , like in stuff like this , to where it's better to show and not tell . To where you're giving way too much exposition to stuff . To where I'm like , hey , man , we can see where our own eyes what's going on .

But like the same thing when we were talking about hisoka's bungee gums , like you don't have to explain it too hard , it's like we kind of get what's going on true , and that's why it becomes so funny .

Speaker 2

We have the repetition in the anime . So one thing to keep in mind the anime has a lot of repetition on stuff . It will keep talking about things over and over again that we pretty much already know . But then what also happens in the anime is that there's a lot of explanation that is gone .

Because of the fact that there's so much that's explained in the manga and relies so heavily on trying to show things and not tell , we lose a lot of information .

Speaker 1

You cut a little too much off the top , my dude .

Speaker 2

Exactly , and that's not really his fault , that's animation studios . They have to work with what they can .

Speaker 1

I'm not completely his fault . I mean , I'm not trying to blame him , I'm just saying it's like I can't act like I don't see this shit . You know what I mean .

Speaker 2

True , we're supposed to be seeing it . We're consumers of it .

Speaker 1

We're watching the anime don't ask questions , just consume products pretty much so .

Speaker 2

That's where things start coming awry into this one , and Greed Island is one of the ones that suffered the most , so it feels like it kind of bounces around . We get a whole cult where they're literally trying to collect the cards and stuff like that . Like the premise of it in short , without , because without before it's like really diving into it .

But this the premise of it is is the fact that when gone , kilua and like everyone joins in when they go into the game , there's already in a rise . There's already a bunch of different factions and a bunch of different shit going on .

Greed Island Game Mechanics Analysis

Greed island was meant to be a forever game , but a potential end as well . It had to be made as a video game to the point that there is a beginning . There , isn't it ? Because keep in mind how the system itself works . You have to collect 100 slot cards . Then you have spell cards , which are separate .

There's a lot you to be that you can just use , but you have to buy them . Then you have the unlimited cards . Well , um , your undefined cards or something that you can just grab and use them however you see fit . Yeah , but keep in mind how the system itself works . Okay on this .

This is how it works into it , each card aside from having a great level of rarity and then also like how many of those cars are able to be there , but also how strong and how powerful those cards are as well . So keep that in mind onto the case in the reason that that's become so important .

This is where we get more of an explanation in the manga than the anime and that's where , I say , stuff gets lost . So with the way this works out , if you use a card , if you use one of the slotted cards , it can never turn back into a card again . So if you return it to its item or its real version form , it can never revert back .

Let's say you get to one of the higher tier cards , like not the triple zero card , but like the triple , but the double zero one and the double zero two cards are those higher ones . There's only three of those cards . Let's just say , because of whatever situation they get into , they wind up using those cards because of what they are .

Because of what they are Like , the 0001 card is an entrance to a very specific forest . So if you're trying to traverse through areas , you have to open the door . Once you've opened the door with that card , it can never turn back again . That means the rarity of that card has now gone from 3 to 2 .

There's hundreds , no thousands of people , no what , yeah , 8 , yeah , a thousand , because it's only a limited amount of copies . So it's like a thousand people playing this game and let's just say , even out of their rarity , those three people get this and those three people use that card . Guess what ? No one is able to finish the game anymore .

The game is now deemed completely unbeatable because the people use the cards . I see we got a new addition , but welcome in . We got a new addition . What's good Professor .

Speaker 1

The Full Metal Optimist .

Speaker 2

What does that have to do with Hunter x Hunter ?

Speaker 3

It don't got anything to do with it . I was just watching the fight .

Speaker 2

Okay , is this that you usually have a title that pertains to whatever it is that we're reviewing ? It just threw me off my bad .

Speaker 3

I was watching fights from Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood Ten minutes ago .

Speaker 2

Understood , but going back real quick . So yeah , it can make the game deemed unbeatable at that point . Now , the game was deemed beatable before that because of how it was created . So if people fuck up , you've now no longer able to beat the game anymore . And that's the premise is that people want to actually beat the game .

They were trying to be like oh I won , I beat . But then there's some people who don't want to beat the game . Because the game ? Because it takes place inside the game world , which let's just go ahead and say we , we all know that it takes place in the dark continent . We all know this . There's no question about this .

Um , we're just waiting for the full confirmation inside the manga , but everyone pretty much agrees that this takes place in a dark continent . There's just like , there's no way this takes place literally in a game system . You're teleported to a whole different continent .

Speaker 1

That's what it is can you imagine , like , if , um , the anime ever , what if the manga ever gets animated ? And they decided to , you know well , also extend the manga , of course , and to a point where now greed island just feel like one big checkoff's guns , where , oh , y'all thought , um , this art was going to be irrelevant .

Speaker 2

No , you're gonna find out that it was very important to the own story well , that's the point and that's the reason why we absolutely do not want our man to die , because if he dies he's already written off the ending and it's going to be bullshit .

But if he stays alive and is able to continue the writing , everything that happened before is supposed to be important , like the chimera ants .

Even though a lot of people don't like the Chimera Ant arc and I know we're not reviewing that yet , but I'm just mentioning the thing about it is it's very clear that the way that the Chimera Ants are , there's no way they existed in the regular continent . They had to have come from the Dark Continent .

That's where you start getting all of these other estranged animals and creatures and stuff from . These chimera ants had to have come from the Dark Continent . There's no other way to explain it . And so it could be a possibility that in creating that game because keep in mind also who's supposed to be watching the chimera ants it was supposed to be Kite .

It's his job to make sure that they don't get out of control , not just him , but some other people . But the government keeps an eye onto it , but has this been happening since the beginning ? We don't really know .

It's a possibility that maybe these Chimera ants traversed back from the Dark Continent , and it could have happened also from when the game Greed Island was made . Because of the fact that everyone pretty much has an agreement that Greed Island takes place in the Dark Continent , you're able to leave the game . You're not stuck there permanently .

Speaker 1

You are able to leave the game .

Nen Abilities and Discipline Discussion

I'm glad that you said that because this reminds me how Tuck I was just saying how I wish Tuck was on , because I was going to make a comparison to Sword Art Online , to where how SAO gamified anime , greed Island anime-ified gaming Pretty much .

Speaker 2

No , no , you do .

Speaker 3

It's arguably the greatest anime of all time .

Speaker 2

It's very arguable about that , but we're not talking about that right now . Anyway , it had nothing to do with nothing .

Speaker 3

I just thought that I should mention it , of course , so .

Speaker 2

Anyway , I'm sorry . You got me doing my old man laugh I can only to a flavor of love .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I thought you were going to make it sound like SAO is a great show .

Speaker 2

I'm going back to what I'm talking about , because you with the nonsense today anyway . So , but yeah , so , based on like it could have been a possibility that that could have been a reason that we have the chimera ants , but we don't get a full explanation into it yet . We haven't gotten there yet . We're finally getting into the dark constant in the manga .

But you know , it really depends on how long old buddy's gonna live . We just lost toriyama . So it's like I don't know , I don't know , bro , kind of it , kind of in that feels , right now he's around . If I'm correct , he's older than toriyama is . So I don't know , like you don't know , how much long old boy got , just saying .

So , just , we're hopeful that we'll be able to get kind of an explanation . Otherwise I might just want to be in a left in the wind situation . We're gonna see . But it's one of those things like , yeah , there's something into greed island where there's all these different factions . Um , there's some people who don't want to leave the game .

They enjoy the game because out in the real world you have to use yeah , you have to like suffer consequences . Whatever it is that you're going to do in greed island . There are no consequences if you kill another player . That player was just weak . The only way you can legally kill someone out in the real world is having a hunter's license .

You know how difficult it is to get that shit .

Speaker 1

You know what ? I wouldn't be surprised if somebody went . You know , I'm not gonna say it because I'm not gonna give anybody any ideas . It was gonna have something to do with GTA and Gamergate .

Speaker 2

Hmm , hmm , hmm , hmm , hmm . Yeah , I think I see where you're going with that , but I'm going to see .

Speaker 3

I was just thinking something about GTA . I was just thinking that , hey , greed Island reminds me of . Like if right now , we all had an immense copy of Grand Theft Auto , everybody will be fighting us trying to get it .

Speaker 2

Like you know , I mean true but then also keep in mind on how the power works with the greed island and the fact that , like there's only so few copies and only so few players able to play , play into the game and it keeps control of that nin system . First , I want to understand this too .

I'm going to make a video because you did remind me earlier on that I'm still very upset . I'm upset that I wasn't able to be honest to that episode review . That's on me . Situations happen . But I'm very upset still at how horribly you guys explained that NIN system . So I'm obviously going to go into .

It's very complicated though that's why I'm going to make a very short video to let you know that the actuality is not that complicated . It's very simple to understand . It's very simple it is . But anyway , that's . That's a discussion for another time . That's not for this review , because then I'm going to go into a tangent .

It's going to take up most of this time and I'm not going to do that .

Speaker 1

I'm like that's not even fair though . Koki Gatsu , I like Hunter x Hunter , but I'm not a big fan like yours , that's okay . I'm like totally not , mark , I'm like a blind review .

Speaker 2

'm like okay , uh , I'm just trying to piece together what the hell is going on here I just want you to understand that I was still very frustrated , but it's okay , I'm going to help .

But anyway , understanding with the nin system for those who do understand , and I'm just going to go through this little explanation to this , your nin abilities are made stronger based upon stipulations that you put onto them . Keep in mind , onto this chaotic nin is weak .

Controlled nin is strong , and what I mean by that is this if you establish rules , you make your nin stronger oh , it's more like you're .

Speaker 3

So if I say I'm not more powerful than .

Speaker 1

So it's about discipline , it's about mental discipline .

Speaker 2

It's about mental discipline . Keep my own to this . Karapika put it in this aspect and now we have we mentioned to the previous review His nin ability . He has two flows of nin . You can kind of even say flows of chakra , if you want to put in an article aspect for those who really haven't seen hunter .

Hunter , yeah , I don't know , but if you , if it helps for you to kind of get understanding into it . So the flow of nin for karapika is different when he activates his scarlet eyes , which is very , very similar . And again , I'm going to make sure I make this very well known that the sharanan was clearly stolen into this and I want you to understand this .

I purposely set up this , set up this explanation for this review . I literally just shared when Toby Rama no , yeah , yeah , when Toby Rama explained how the Sharingan works when he was reanimated and explained it to sasuke . I just shared that to the face group group today . Okay , keep that in mind .

That is a completely different flow of chakra that gets released and it reacts with the optical nerves and it creates the sharingan . It is the same thing for the scarlet eyes and nin . A different flow of nin flows through the body when the scarlet eyes are activated . It's the same thing . Naruto stole it . I'm just saying that anyway , now that rant's over .

So , but karabika's special grade nin . The one thing about it is is that what makes his nin so powerful and what makes it so difficult for that , for um , for chrono to even try to break it because he can't , is because of the stipulations that's been put , those rules that's been in place .

As long as karapika follows the three rules that he's put in place of his nin , it is nigh unbeatable , literally , and that's the reason why it's such a big thing . Into it . It would have to be something significantly more powerful than his nin , which , by putting those rules , already puts his in top tier . Keep that in mind . He put those rules .

He's already in top 10 . It would have to take somebody who is strong enough to be beat top 10 men . So someone has to be in that top tier or they would have to completely do what gone does . And I'm not going to spoil for those who haven't gotten to that point in the anime .

If you're waiting for a review , we appreciate it , but a big sacrifice would have to be made in order to break it . That is how powerful his nin has become by putting those rules in place . But if he never put those rules in place , chrono could have broken his nin , his nin's uh spell that was put onto him , those chains , almost instantly .

That is how vast of a difference nin without rules and is with rules is . That's where that discipline comes into play . An amateur fighter versus a very well seasoned fighter .

Speaker 1

I can see through all of your attacks and in this fight , in two to three hits versus an amateur , I'm gonna fight until I wear you down , type of thing yeah , see , this is why I kind of admire bruce lee as a martial artist , because it's like he's not just a fighter , it's like he's smart , he's wise , he has the mental discipline to where I'm like he can

kind of like be through the opponent um , more than the opponent you know , kind of like be through the opponent more than the opponent . You know , kind of like you know your opponent more than they know themselves , that kind of thing . Yeah , so I can't feel it . So understand this .

Speaker 3

So essentially , I got a question about the Nen . So if we on the same level , we got the same ability and you got a rule established for you and I have no rule , but we have the same ability . You stronger than me .

Speaker 1

Yes , pretty much .

Speaker 3

That's some whole shit .

Speaker 1

No , it's not no , because it's like saying that's like a white belt or a yellow belt going up against a black belt , because you may know the techniques , but because I have more discipline , it's like I have more mastery of the techniques but tuck .

Speaker 2

I'll explain in this also thing too if you break the rules of your nin , you set up the rules and make sure , and it makes yourself significantly stronger . Imagine , like I guess a kai , and I'm not even gonna say super saiyan , kaioken , we're gonna say kai , okay . So let's say you go Kaioken per se because you've established these rules of your body .

It boosts your power up 10 times and the more you can establish more rules and then boost it up even higher . So you establish 20 rules , kaioken times 20 per se . Okay , let's just say in that aspect , okay per se . Okay , let's just say in that aspect , okay . But if you break the rules , your nin is destroyed .

Kayo can , for most people believe , because it hasn't . Toriyama never got a chance to fully fully confirm it , neither did toyotaro . But toriyama never fully confirmed it before he passed . But most people believe that there's two ways that goku contracted the heart disease . One , he got on yard rat or two , he got it because kyo kin destroys your body .

By pushing those limits you're pushing your body strength more . Yeah , most people feel this kyo kin like . There's more people who lean towards the kyo kin situation . So let's just say that's the , that's what it is . Let's just say that's the reason he got the heart disease because he used kaioken so much and so strong and his body couldn't handle it .

Whatever the case may be , so we put it in that aspect there . What it is is the fact that , um , when you destroy your , if you break your rule that you set in place , your nin is destroyed , it kills your nin . You can lose it forever .

Speaker 3

Well , to be honest , in the ninja world , those who break the rules are scum , it's true , but those who abandon their friends are worse than scum , it's true .

Speaker 2

So when you put in that aspect , you understand . So yes , if you don't have rules , I have rules , Mine is going to be powerful . But if I break my rule , I lose my nin , and now I am powerless against you .

Speaker 3

So , based off the rules or whatever the case may be right , regardless of power , who would be the strongest nin user ? Just without a whole explanation , just one person .

Speaker 2

One person , shit , miriam , from Chimera Ant Art . He was pretty much , he potentially was the strongest , in fact there's . Have you seen the Chimera Ant Art or no ? Yeah , miriam the one .

Speaker 1

The perfect cell looking .

Speaker 2

The Chimera .

Speaker 3

The test plan .

Speaker 2

The king Keep in mind .

Speaker 4

I have no name .

Speaker 1

It kind of threw me off a little bit . I know who you're talking about .

Speaker 2

Keep in mind the reason he wound up losing because there was even potential . It was the time he had 10 more seconds , not even just that , specifically , it's not even most of the time into it . He was killed by disease .

He was killed by disease Remember he was Dude purposely infected him and that's what the time frame came into and purposely did not let him know about the disease until it was too late . So the disease was also made to kill him very quickly .

So even if he wanted to use NIN to like , restrict the disease , he would have to have known that he was sick in order to do that . He would have to have known that he was sick in order to do that . So he was purposely they purposely like he was purposely made sure that he did not know this information until the last moment .

So that's why he was going to die anyway .

But if it wasn't for that illness , he he would have , probably , I would say he would have been the strongest nin user , because keep in mind also is the fact that it was a good pop , like he has the ability , whoever he eats , just like other chimera ants , is mostly because the fact that he was deemed king from his mom his mom , whatever it is that she

ate , she gave birth to , so she ate . That power was transferred to her baby him being king . Wherever he ate , he absorbed that power into himself . So every time he was eating somebody , he was absorbing their power into him and becoming stronger and stronger each time .

Speaker 1

So thank reameru tempest from uh recording as a slob , just pretty much yep , I absorb you and gain your power and gain your power pretty much , and that that's what makes so literally .

Speaker 2

even in that fight , if he had survived and then wound up eating the old man , I can't remember to do that I feel bad for saying that If he would have ate him , oh my God , he would have been so strong . Exactly , I mean keep in mind that Don't start with an N Nimuru , Nimuru . It does start Netsuro , netsuroetsero .

Speaker 1

Thank you so much yeah , that's why I'm going to say Netsero , because he was going up against Netsero in the all final .

Speaker 3

Oh man , that fight , man like we'll talk about it when we get there . That was a good fight but that's the simplest thing .

Speaker 2

But my whole explanation about Nen and the rules hold on hold on hold on .

Speaker 3

That reminds me of the first Hokage power too .

Speaker 2

I ain't gonna lie True , Keep in mind that was also probably stolen too , but we're not going to talk about that right now . I'm going to rant . Well , I guess I'm not going to say stolen , but they reincorporated it in a way of chakra , but literally , chakra is nin it was inspired .

Let's just be honest , it's nin , because all the special grades is all the bloodlines . Just gonna be honest on that . Special grades , scarlet eyes sure ain't gone . Anyway .

Speaker 1

When you said special grades , I was thinking like Jesus is kind of for some reason .

Speaker 2

Yeah but even that I mean power systems are similar in some form or fashion . It's Kekkei Ginkai , it's totally different . I said bloodlines , I forgot the term , my bad . Kekkei Ginkai , it's totally different . No , not really . It's definitely not my whole explanation

Greed Island, Nen Abilities Discussion

. I say , as far as about the rules , is the biggest mystery for Greed Island is is the entire island fully fabricated of nin , or is it nin affecting that particular part of the island ? And I put it in this aspect here Are these NPCs ? Were they actually real people at one point or were they fully fabricated by Nen itself ?

Either way , you would have to be an extremely strong-ass Nen user to manipulate that much in the area . So in order to increase that Nen's power , there were rules that were put into place . Those rules that were put into place , those rules that were put into place , are the game's rules .

That's the kind that help explain how powerful the nin , how powerful nin can be In the world , because that's just how strong it is , literally to the point when you can create an entire game world the size of an entire fucking island , a huge island at that . And this can actually happen if you establish rules . That's how strong nin can be .

But it's one of those things of like , like we mentioned . It's a discipline . So when you put in that there , that also kind of helps , really kind of put into play how strong Nen is , how powerful things could be , and how much of a world manipulator that Nen can be as well too . If you really know what you're doing , you establish those rules .

You're pretty much set .

Speaker 1

See , hold on . That's like imagine if both of us use a command mail wave . But the difference is yours is more like unrefined and it's like seem like it's gonna have like a wider blast radius and whatnot .

Versus mine it'll be more like concentrated to where it's gonna have a shorter beam , but at the same time it's like it's more concentrated , it's gonna pierce right through yours and it's gonna reach longer and faster at the same time .

Speaker 2

So it's like it's like a difference between like you can use the same amount of power , but if you can know what you're doing I know the biggest difference between controlled um uh , dragon ball z and they did explain this in Super , actually in the manga If you have more control of your key , you can control your beam , and I mean by that remember how someone's

able to do it . When they do attack it seems small but extremely powerful , like , for example , piccolo's special beam cannon . When he first did his special beam cannon it would only go straight . That was it .

But once he refined his ki , got more understanding , got more control over it , he was able to turn it around in midair and control his ki on where it goes .

Speaker 1

It's not just the size onto it , but the fact that I can manipulate my attack the way I need it to honestly , like I would say , kodekio hitman reborn also does a great job in kind of explaining how attacks work , to where you can kind of change the trajectory and whatnot .

We're going to talk about that when we get to that review , but yeah there's so much that goes into play .

Speaker 2

But that's what pretty much made Greed Island such an awesome thing . Multiple NIN users came together it was 11 founders of course GameBee one of them and they worked together . They melded their NIN together to form this game and created these rules to enhance it .

So that way they have all of this , and so it's like it was a really awesome concept and was one that we were super excited kind of jumping into and the story could have been fleshed out a little bit more . Everything felt kind of rushed for a moment , and it was . It was because every single time the same thing has happened with hunter .

Hunter that has been , that's still happening right now . Uh , we're questioning his life , he's sick , he knows that he's dying , but every time that he thinks he's going to die , he winds up rushing the story .

And then he doesn't die , which we're happy about , but still One of those things is like we're having to keep rushing the story so as much as stuff that we wind up missing . So then we kind of get a chance to go back and see more about what was supposed to be there , type of thing . It's the same thing that happened with Ty Kubo , with Bleach .

It's the same thing for him where a lot of people really complained about how the Quincy arc , how it went in the manga . And it was for the same reason because Kubo felt like he felt horrible and thought that he was going to die and wound up spending time in a hospital . So he wound up rushing the story . So there's a bunch of stuff that even he said .

There was a bunch of stuff in the story that was supposed to be there that he skipped because he thought he thought something bad was going to happen and he didn't want to leave his fan base with no ending , so he skipped it . He's doing better now and now that's being animated . The anime is getting a chance to explain more of what was been missing .

They've been piecing in more stuff that's been in there . So some people's like , oh , it's filler . No , it's not filler , it's explaining what was missing . Is what this actually is ? So but with this anime , with hunter hunter was , it was kind of like they animated what they had per se .

So there's stuff that went missing , like there was supposed to be more to that cult that was there , but we just kind of rushed it through the cult was . They were just trying to take the cards and the leader was really just going to kill everybody and steal all of their cars to make sure he had all the slot cards because he absolutely wanted to win .

And once I realized what the triple zero card was , I was like , okay , I get this Tuck . Are you prepared ? So if Skip was on , I would have made this mention into this . But Maggie so one of the things about Maggie is the man who sailed the seven seas . Oh my God , wait , simbad . So Simbad is the man who sailed the seven seas .

Uh , oh my god , wait , fuck Sinbad . So Sinbad has his own kingdom . All these different concubines , all these different power and shit . That is the reward if you beat greed island . The triple zero card that you can choose to take with you is an entire kingdom with 10,000 loyal subjects who will follow whatever laws you have in place .

By winning , you literally become a king in the real world .

Speaker 1

And that pretty much explains why it's called Greed Island .

Speaker 2

Tuck , what would you do if you had a whole kingdom ? I'm actually curious Because I'm asking you , JB , but I definitely If I had a whole kingdom .

Speaker 3

With 10,000 loyal subjects With 10,000 loyal subjects . Let's see , is all 10,000 my subjects With 10,000 loyal subjects ? Let's see , Is all 10,000 ? My baby mamas ? It could be Well if I had a whole 10,000 baby mamas . Wow , I would be so tired every day . No , but seriously , I probably wouldn't be king , so to speak .

I would have like a shadow monarch and I'll be one of the citizens there . That way I can keep track of everything . So I would have a king .

Everybody think that's the king , but in reality I'm the king , just to make sure all my citizens is good to go make sure we ain't got bullying or like people trying to do stuff because they lower class citizens , stuff like that , but low key .

I be going on vacation , like you know what I mean , once a month okay , honestly , a lot more than I thought it was gonna be . I'm not gonna lie to you , yeah , but if I if I'm like , if I'm like not , if I'm like , if I'm like not trying to be like that . Honestly , man , I'm tearing the city up . Man , we having a party every day .

It's going to be like a strip club with 10,000 people , especially with all them big moms . It's the whole way . What's the name from Game of Thrones ? I won't have no males there , it'll just be me . Oh God , look , castor Male , another male , get him out of here . Ain't nobody gonna be keen with me ? Bam , bam , that baby .

He'll be alright , he'll be alright .

Speaker 2

He's gonna overthrow me . Ban your son . You ban your son , you just hey .

Speaker 3

He gotta go out there and get it on his own , like I did . Go find another Greed Island copy man . You got it . If a 12 year old can do it , I know you can't , but look how good Gon turned out .

Speaker 2

He ain't had no daddy oh my god no , you didn't with the JB .

Greed Island Game Analysis

What would you do if you had a whole kingdom of 10,000 loyal subjects ?

Speaker 3

you talking to the eminence in shadow , not the evil lion .

Speaker 1

Oh , cookie , you insult me by asking If I had the kingdom , it would be for the grand ambition Building what we always want to build houses , better schools , better everything where , essentially , we become the new capital of america and as soon the whole headquarters will be built around it .

I'm going to have my mansion , I'm going to have my winters , I'm going to have my servants and , of course , family and friends can always visit , but of course everything's going to be for the . How dare you ?

Speaker 2

ask that . I mean , I'm just asking . You started off with evil laugh too , so you threw me off for a month . I'm not gonna , I'm gonna be like gone . I can't . That's not the card I would take . I'm gonna be honest with you . I can't . I can't be a king of 10,000 .

Speaker 1

That's too many nah , see , the whole thing is , uh , while y'all was talking , I like let me pour a drink in , like oh , but not for real , though .

Like it would be pretty much like that to where I would definitely have , like my gaming studio , film studio , like a whole bunch of shit going on to where you know , like how we talked about before , to where I want to give the guys that's like the up-and-comers , the entry-level guys that want to get into those industries , like give them a fighting chance to

get themselves in there . So I'm like let's just establish a kingdom to where , hey , here's this uh training ground per se and you go off and do your thing .

It'll be kind of like a college town in a way , but except , no , y'all can still stick around if y'all want to , but the main thing is we just help y'all along the way you know , I got you , I got you well I mean otherwise yes , oh yes , it's your nonsense , bro , but no , um .

Speaker 2

So I mean otherwise , though , as far as , like , the whole greed island arc itself the only other thing that wound up being interesting , aside from you know , we had a little bit of the cults and stuff . That was kind of some meeting some of the people understanding that how death worked , that you're like , hey , you can die in this game .

You better be careful about what you're doing and stuff . The card system is very simple . You got these cards . They range from H being the most common and weakest to SS being the rarest and the most powerful one , which , of course , the triple zero card is the only SS Starting card .

One is an s rank , but yeah , so it's like we have all these things I already mentioned . As far as about the card , you can turn the card back into an item , but once you do that , it'll never go back . But also you have to be mindful , because you can't just hold on to a card .

You have to put it in your inventory um , which does let everyone know that you have this card and the reason that it does . That is one fairness for all other players .

But then the other thing is also , let's say you try to hold on to the card and you don't put in your inventory , within a minute it'll turn back to his item form and it will again , will never be able to go back into his card form again . So now you fucked everybody on that . So congratulations , I hope you .

You know you played yourself and you played everyone else . Now everyone's coming out to kill you because it's your fault . You're a dumbass , but for reals though it's . But otherwise , yeah , I mean the system itself , the greed system itself wasn't bad . It was pretty simple as far as the whole island , how the game system works .

It was pretty straightforward and still pretty fun . But it was pretty fun to watch . I mean , I hadn't played it . Obviously I thought about it Like how would I play it ? I probably would , but probably not , I don't know . Would you play Greed Island realistically ? I don't know .

Yeah , knowing the potentials , aside from the fact that you have to have Nen to use it you also have to be really knowing what you're doing . Because these are the kids .

Speaker 1

I mean , if I had the NIN and I pretty much was trained for this I'm like , yeah , sure , I'll give it a try , but if I'm like level zero , I have no idea what I'm doing . I'm like hell , no .

Speaker 3

No , I'm playing either way .

Speaker 4

Good luck to you .

Speaker 3

Hey , I'm going to cheat my way to the top .

Speaker 2

He's going to be the leader of the cult . He's already the leader of the cult . Otherwise , the only other thing to talk about with Reed Island was the actual yeah it was pretty much the dodgeball game . Once we got to the dodgeball game , it finally got to this whole thing where it's like , okay , cool , like it seemed pretty fun . Um , they went up against .

This nigga was strong as a motherfucker though , god damn this nigga was strong . But then , of course , you know , bungee cum saves the day . I like how , even with the bungee gum , it still wound up . They still almost lost , like they did almost lose that dodgeball game . So it was .

It kind of felt like , oh you know , it really felt like it was like a really tight game Into itself . But I don't have much to say on dodgeball game though . Like was there any detail that I missed ? Jb , or ?

Speaker 1

Nah , like see , honestly , at this point we pretty much talked about everything we want to talk about . To be honest , like we just kind of ripped it at this point yeah , I mean , because that was just what it was like the .

Speaker 2

It just didn't feel like the .

Speaker 1

Uh , the dodgeball game really kind of led up to being like oh , we finally meet the final boss , we're at final oh , you know what one thing , uh , you know what greed island kind of reminds me , what Greed Island kind of reminds me of ? Have y'all ever heard of this anime called Batoon ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , oh my god , yes , yo , it had that kind of vibe to it . It's called Batoon Batoon yeah . The sound of bombs exploding . B-t-o-o-m .

Speaker 1

Okay , to be fair , the first few episodes buckle up because it gets dark .

Speaker 2

It gets dark is an understatement . That shit is .

Speaker 3

I mean , oh , it came from my Xbox game .

Speaker 1

It did it .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I think I don't remember what . Okay .

Speaker 3

Let me check it out .

Speaker 2

But it's just still though . Yeah , I can definitely see it in that aspect there too , like Batum was Crazy . But um , I don't really have anything . Like you said , I feel like we did kind of explain everything . I just I guess I'm just trying to check to see if I had anything else to mention uh , you're good , like that's pretty much .

Speaker 1

It is like at pretty much after they won the game and gone by pretty much doing the protagonist type thing , he pretty much picked the best choice as far as cards to select , like the three cards he needs to select , and then he picked the best choice . So I'm like , okay , cool . And then he met Kite , and that was pretty much Greed Island .

Uh , yep , that's it cool , anybody got ? Yep , that's it Cool , anybody got ? Just anything y'all want to add on Before we close this out .

Speaker 2

Not really .

Speaker 3

No , I ain't got nothing else to add . I just do want to say that Just on a side

Anime Season Review Discussion

note . Bro , this is going to be Crazy nerdy news because there's so much Animated and dropped this season .

Speaker 1

Yeah , like I'm trying to Check out Windbreaker not going to be a crazy nerdy news because there's so much animated in Drop this season . Yeah , I'm trying to check out Windbreaker not going to lie , because I'm hearing that it's so good Immediately , it's automatically better than Tokyo Revengers .

I'm like , okay , let me check this out Windbreaker , some others yo hell yeah . Reincarnated as a Slime .

Speaker 3

Jobless Reincarnation , my Hero Academia Breaker . Some others Hell yeah , Green Pornator is the slime . Jobless Reincarnation , my Hero Academia . Hold it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , we got a whole bunch of anime reviews that we caught up on , but until then , you stay nerdy , my friends , and remember that great things are coming . We are zoning out , so go ahead and take it easy .

We will be back for the Chimera Ant arc and , let's be honest , I'm going to blaze through the election arc because it's like 12 episodes and not much of what's going on . Yeah , like there's nothing going on in the election , I know , but come on . I've got an honorable mention , but for the most I know .

But come on , I got like honorable mention , but for the most part . Chimera Ant is going to be the last arc of the Hunter x Hunter Extreme Review and we're going to be closing it out . So , yeah , just stay tuned for that .

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