¶ Game of Thrones Analysis
all right , we are here . We are at the final leg of the game of thrones extreme review . We're gonna go ahead and make season seven and season eight in one part because , honestly , I just really hate how season eight was executed . And then I just feel like you know what ?
Let's just go ahead and wrap this up so we can go ahead and get ready for house of the dragon . So , without further ado , let's go ahead and get into it . Ah , season seven . It pretty much starts off with , you know , you have Cersei becoming the queen and you have a whole bunch of other shit going on .
I'm sorry if I'm forgetting the order of things , but there's just so much that goes on with Game of Thrones that sometimes I just feel like I probably need to make sure I pull up my notes . Alright , so let's start with Arya .
So at the Twins , arya disguised , as Walder Bray points , the remaining Lords of House Bray , the White Walkers are marching towards the Wall . Ed receives Bran and Mera at Castle Black and at Winterfell , sans objects .
When john accepts the loyalties to house umbra and carstart , whose uh , previous leaders supported ramsay , now queen cersei demands that the north bend the knee and that the citadel samuel borrows restricted library books , learning that there is a large deposit of dragonglass at Dragonstone what a coincidence . And he sends word to Jon .
So Sam finds Jorah , who's now heavily infected with greyscale and is quarantined to a cell . And in the Riverlands Arya meets some friendly Lannister soldiers and they're jokingly claiming that she will kill cersei .
And then the hound begins to believe that the lord of light after thoros shows him a fiery vision of the wall and the army of the dead in king's landing . Jamie tells cersei that , uh , they crucially meet allies . And euron arrives to propose marriage in exchange for his iron fleet and the opportunity to kill Theon and Yara .
Cersei declines over his untruthworthiness , but Euron promises to return with a gift that will prove his loyalty . And then Daenerys arrives at Dragonstone House , targaryen's ancestral home , with her army of enlarged dragons . Y'all got anything to add on to Episode 1 so far .
Besides the fact that Cersei , now in this season You're starting to see kind of like Like a more rougher Scared Well , she wasn't scared at that moment precisely . She was very um , oh , what is the word that I am looking for ?
She was very confident in everything that she was doing , but you could still see like a slight fear in her eyes and she starts becoming egotistical , broken . This is a great . This is a great season oh yeah , like bro .
I like how , now that she got the power , that um , she just started on being like oh well , uh , fuck you . Fuck that . Um . She just went on opening like you know what , I don't even care if y'all know that um , jamie and I have been fucking each other . I don't care , I'm the queen , like . What y'all gonna do about it ?
Y'all gonna overthrow me or some shit , something like that . Essentially what I like about Cersei at this point . Now , here's the thing . Nothing against Lena Headey , she did a great job as Cersei . But here's where I'm trying to separate Cersei , the character , from Cersei as a villain . As a person , fuck Cersei . The character From Cersei as a villain .
As a person , fuck Cersei . But as a villain , I like her .
I have respect for it To a sense where she reminds me of Umbridge from Harry Potter , because I don't like Umbridge , but at the same time I do like the fact that she was in this position to where , even though she's supposed to be dislikable , it's just that all you just can't easily get rid of her because she has political power , so like .
It's almost like um , you just staring down somebody who you really can't stand , but you really can't do anything about it , because you know there'll be consequences uh for that .
So I just like that from a storytelling point of view , to where uh trying to take them down would be way more satisfying uh , once you uh figure out a way to overcome what makes them uh nigh uh untouchable .
you know what I mean cersei was getting up to a point where , yeah , she basically thought that she was like on top of the world . She thought that nobody could get to her . Now she'd know I'm , I'm too powerful , I'm the greatest thing to ever be conceived out of a vagina .
And when she realized it's like the White Walkers are getting too close to the wall , the North will not bend the knee . Everybody that was by her side is gone , and for the ones that were remaining , they were either afraid of her or dying to kill her .
Yeah , that was another thing . Like cersei , uh , I feel like she was like tweaking to where it's like , oh , it's only a matter of time before y'all betray . It's almost like azula from avatar the last airbender , which where it's like , uh , she's trying to get rid of anybody who's , uh , even remotely a threat .
I mean that's also Cersei's fault , like she made enemies of everyone before she became queen .
Yeah .
Very , very true . Everybody just hated her guts . Nobody could stand her . Even people from her own court were just dying for her to eat shit and die . See , that's why the whole thing , when she got stripped naked and had to do the walk of shame her own court were just dying for her to eat shit and die .
See , that's why the whole thing , when she got stripped naked and had to do the walk of shame and I was like that was one of the most satisfying moments in Game of Thrones , where it's like , yeah , well , you deserve worse , but this is good enough .
I blocked that part out of my mind .
Okay , speaking of characters , well , we're going to be going out of order because this is going to be season 7 and 8 and , honestly , I'm more focused on the characters than more than the chronological chronological order of the events . Let's go ahead and talk about cersei and how , yes , eventually , uh , everybody's like against her .
Well , it's more like , uh , her against everyone else and everyone else is like not only have to deal with her but also have to deal with the army of the dead , um , rising up and trying to kill everybody .
But it's , it feels kind of lame how her and Jamie's death was one of those things where , okay , they like ran into this , this , um , basement cellar , whatever it was , and then they'd like kind of embrace each other , realize that , oh , uh , no one else matter , only us , and blah , blah , blah and the next thing , you know , uh , the ceiling caveman , and all
kills them . I'm like that feels like a lame way for those two characters to go out , because , uh , here's another thing like you would think , I would uh dislike jamie , but like , I have like a mixed feelings about jamie because like , once again , I don't like jamie as a character , but I like the role that he played throughout the series .
¶ Exploring Game of Thrones Character Development
Like essentially , you all know that he's the king slave , he's the one that killed the mad king . But the thing was he didn't do it because , you know , like some sort of hero justice or whatnot .
He just did it because he felt like it was the right thing to do , despite the fact that doing it the way that he did it would give him the bad reputation that he got . But the thing was he did a lot of shady , slimy , dark shit for the sake of others .
Uh , going back to episode one of season one , to where he pushed brand out the window after , uh , you know , they got caught fucking each other and like the things I do for love , and it's like he uh pushed the kid out the window just to make sure that their secret is safe . So he really did it for someone else other than not to be just a dick .
But , like you know , sometimes he does dickish things , uh , for the sake of others and I don't know . I don't think this is why I say it's a damn shame that the books didn't complete the story , because I really wanted to see the direction .
Uh , jamie and Daenerys and all the others would have gone if the books were completed , because it just kind of makes you feel like Jamie didn't get a redemption arc .
It was more like it was building up to it , but it's like now it just feels like , and well , you know , he'll always go out as like this kingslayer , this rogue , this untrustworthy guy , like man even . I'm sorry , but I'm kind of ranting at this point .
But another thing I didn't like about jamie , honestly , was when , essentially , uh , torma Tormund , you know Tormund , red-haired wildling dude who had a thing for Brienne he was like , oh , finally my chance to get with her . And then Jamie was in the picture and he was like , I don't think that's gonna work , fam .
And then Tormund was like , oh well , I see , okay , I got you . He went off . I don't really know what happened with that , but the point being is that basically it just felt like Tormund got cop-blocked by a dude that wasn't gonna even last long . So I'm like bro , you could've circled back and still got with her , but I hate that .
I love that character so much . What was his name again ?
Dormund , I think it was Dude .
I loved him because , like , he was the cocky character that we needed in the show to like kind of like brighten up a little bit and the fact that he had , dude , he had an infatuation with that woman . He was Dude , he had an infatuation with that woman . He wasn't just into her , no , he was into her man .
He was like I don't care what happens , I will die a fucking snoo-soo if I have to , but I want some of that shit .
Snoo-snoo , not death by snoo-snoo .
Always death by snoo-snoo , oh Snoo . Always Death by Snoo Snoo .
Oh my god , that is the only way to go .
Excuse me , I will not go down any other way . Death by Snoo Snoo .
I feel that honestly it's kind of like that one dude from Wreck of theRagnarok to where it was like that tall Valkyrie and he was like you're built different . I can tell I don't know what to tell you .
You just take one good look at that and you're like I'm going to do it Today's're like I'm going to do it . Today's the day I'm going to do it . Oh , I'm going to do it , I don't care Hold on .
Can I mention another thing that pissed me off about Cersei ? This is what makes me not like her , but at the same time , as a villain .
This feels like this is very villain-like of her To where , okay , she locked up this one woman and her daughter and she gave her like that kiss of death that make her like into this um ghoul or whatever , and basically the mother have to watch her daughter die and be like this undead um cannibal , whatnot trying to get at her , and I was like , oh man ,
that's like a fucked way to go out your prison sentence . But what else do I want to talk about with season seven ?
I want to talk about with season seven before we leave this , I just want to agree with you , jb , that Jamie , this was the season where I honestly was hoping we'd get Jamie's redemption . Art and his role , like his character , at this point was falling flat for me . There was nothing else interesting , nothing entertaining .
Like he also , and this is what happens when you have a pretty face but you have no personality . Yeah .
Like I slightly disagree with that . That factor , jamie , and and this by this season it's . You know , you're kind of seeing a whole different person , a person where they've finally have regretted the things that they've done in the past and the people that they've hurt .
And then you're kind of like getting the the guy and he was like , okay , I may consider the possibility of forgiving you because you've been an asshole for like the first four seasons , I'd say almost up to five , and now I'm kind of seeing this okay , nah , he's cool , I would pass a joint to this guy , I would consider the joint to this guy , I would
consider the possibility of actually passing a joint , but only consider , not the past .
Okay , okay , just because I can deal with . I can I see where you're coming from , like there was a change in him , but because we I didn't get to see him act enough on that change .
Oh yeah , no , Like his personality was still lackluster . It was like watching white paint dry .
Well , I think what they were going for is that Jamie was supposed to have some nuance to his character , but it's just that , considering that they ran out of material , by what ? Season 6 ?
It's almost like , okay , we're just pretty much going off the top of our heads , basically going all right , how are we going to wrap this shit up , since we ran out of books ?
So I'm like this makes me really wish that the books were completed , because I felt like , uh , george rr martin would probably , um , figure out some sort of , uh , surprising way to where to flesh out that redemption are he supposed to have . But uh , yeah , pretty much for the most part , it feels like an execution .
It was working up until season five and , honestly , this is how I feel about the Hound and a bunch of other characters , to where , at some point , you're just like , okay , they had their arc , they had their moment . Why are y'all still here ? Like not to be mean , but , come on , like even with Jon still like okay , hold on .
This may sound like blasphemy , but the fact that he died and he came back to life and essentially he just came back to pretty much be like almost destined to end up killing on Danny , I'm just saying , like , other than that , why are you even here anymore ? Like , bro , like .
And Game of Thrones is honestly not one of those shows where oh yeah , there's this one person that's definitely the hero of the story .
Like , any one of these dudes can bite the dust and they can just find somebody else to replace them , like , for instance , arya , to where Arya was being set up to be like this badass character who should be like nothing against her .
But I'm just saying , like the fact that she's this assassin that can , like , change her face and all that shit , the fact that they didn't bother to have the fucking assassin to go Assassin's Creed on Cersei and end all this shit before Dany even had the need to fucking like take over King's Landing and all that shit . Like bro , king's Landing , all that shit .
Like , bro , like . I just feel , like some characters , there was like some wasted potential if the writing was better . I just really wish the writing was better on that Dude fully , fully agreed .
There were , in fact , characters that at this point were just not necessary to have but , I guess , to what they were trying to build for . I mean , yeah , I guess it would have someone fit the plot . Dude Arya , she was scaring me Like damn . You can't give a character that much power and then expect it to not go wrong . Dude , it went great for her .
I really wish I would have seen A little bit more Of Jon Snow's little girlfriend . It was going . It could have gone into the right place .
I was so mad when Ygritte died , good Bro , I was like wondering how come we don't see her later on . Oh , that's right , she died in battle .
Fuck , I hate it I would have loved to see aria and ingrid team up yeah , that would have been good that was a mismatch up .
that would have been good that was a mismatch up , that would have been great . Oh , you know what that reminds me of how ? Okay , let me ask y'all this Do y'all feel like Danny's shield from this benevolent breaker of chains to megalomaniac on a dragon ?
Do you feel like that was foreshadowed , or was it more like okay , after they ran out of original material , they just didn't know what to do with the character .
Up until season seven . You can already tell that they didn't know what to do with the character . They didn't know what to do with most of the characters to begin with . They were lost .
You could almost tell the the starbucks cup at the table I was totally about to mention that I was that made me laugh so fucking hard how many times I paused , rewind , watched it in slow mo just to be sure that my eyes were not playing tricks on me and I was like there's really a freaking starbucks cup . Starbucks has now made it into game of thrones .
It's official there's no other coffee shop greater than starbucks , and it's by damaris and I'm like . This makes so much sense now . She's not full of fire , she's full of caffeine , absolutely .
Hold on , hold on . That reminds me of how I saw this one clip of Amelia Clark , and what's her face ? That was , you know , the black woman that was with her for the most part up until , you know , she got beheaded , and that was fucked up .
By the way , I felt bad for Grey Worm too , and I'm gonna get to um Daenerys and Jeff Romano , but let me talk about Emilia Clarke . To where she was approached and she was like saying , uh , they , she was being asked , oh , uh , how'd you feel about the last , the final season ?
And then , while the other chick was like trying to be politically correct , you know , like not , uh , say too much . Like , bro , emilia , she just couldn't . She's just like I can't lie to you , but at the same time I need to be nice . It was like , uh , she was really making that face .
It was like uh best season ever she was like , I was like bro , I felt like it pained her .
To like .
I was like bro . She knew that last season was shit , but she didn't want to be nice .
You know what's been bothering me like up until this point with the seventh and the eighth season ? Like , yes , we know that game of thrones has gods . Well , I mean god , it's all god , but um , I I feel like they never really show people kind of like truly using , like , the abilities that the gods can give them . That's not Arya .
There are characters there that do pray to one of the gods , but I mean it's kind of like Arya is special Because she's short , cute and has a nice sword , but that's it .
Bro , hold on .
Okay , I want to talk about Arya and a little bit of Bran at the same time , because here's the thing With Arya Nothing against her , but I just felt like she was like kind of overpowered , almost to a point where she was underutilized in the grand scheme of things , like she was pretty much spent most of the series doing assassin training and then she came back
and was like , oh well , shit , you're actually pretty good at this shit . We need to figure out a strategy . You know , like I said before , a lot of shit would have been concluded a lot cleaner if she was utilized in the right moments . But what do I know ? I'm not a screenwriter .
But anyways , the fact that she well , the whole fight against the Night King and the White Walkers and all that , uh , the whole plan was to have brand , to be bait , but they didn't explain what . What are y'all gonna do after the night king shows up , like , so you're just gonna leave them out there ? Like , what was the plan after that ?
They never really explained that canonically , but like , luckily Arya snuck up on him , was like trying to do Assassin's Creed on him and shit , and then almost got her and then was like , uh , she dropped the dagger but , caught in her free hand , stabbed him and I was like , oh well , that solves everything , with him dead and everybody else dies too .
¶ Game of Thrones Character Analysis
And with Bran , this dude has been like had zero agency for most of the series . And then he comes back as this cosmic , otherworldly , wise man who I can see into the past and future and can also see the world through the eyes of ravens and whatnot . And you would think , okay , that's kind of overpowered , he needs to be utilized more .
But no , they , they weren't even creative on that front . And the thing was with him being the king on the iron throne and all that I want to say . It makes sense as far as the way he's built , where , okay , I can imagine someone like him being king , but it feels almost unearned .
I just feel like if he had more agency , more presence in the grand scheme of things , yeah , okay , sure , but then otherwise , scheme of things , yeah , okay , sure , but then otherwise it just feels like , okay , the way they actually had it set up , which I actually like .
This where , okay , sansa is going to be the Lord of the North and then he rules over everything else , and that's that power play to where , in actuality , the Stark family rules over everything . It's just that they want to where , in actuality , the stark family rules over everything .
It's just that they want to make sure that the north remains independent , to where ? Like okay , we're gonna still do whatever the fuck we want , but outside of that , we cool , right . Yeah , so in a way , also with santa becoming a lord of the North , I'm like , okay , well , she finally got the power she wanted .
But man , like I'm gonna be honest , sansa is a character that's really hard to like . Like I'm just like she , oh no full set dude , agreed .
Yeah , I see it's funny how she's like the most normal Stark by default , because you know Arya being assassin , uh , bran being , uh , the three-eyed raven , um , jon Snow , even though he's actually a Targaryen like , he's like this hero and he was lord of north and all that , he was like a fairly , I want to say , popular , but not really .
But it's like , you know , like I guess he's a likable character .
And then , you know , everybody else either died or uh , all the other stars like for some reason it feels like we're never like some more stark , like siblings , cousins , whatever like around , but it just felt like they were just so irrelevant to the grand scheme of things , almost like you kind of forget about them .
But so , as far as like the main starks , it was like , if you're including Jon Snow , it's like there's Jon Snow , there's Arya , there's Bran and there's Sansa at this point and Sansa is like the most normal one by default and I'm just like , well , of course the lamest bitch is going to be the most normal one .
Dude , she got lucky is what she did . Yeah , everybody else had fucked up stories that they had to deal with . Bran and Arya , like I was saying before , these are the only two characters that actually truly do come into the eyes of actual gods and receive actual fucking abilities from the gods .
I mean , the worst she got was her relationship with Ramsay and well , joffrey too Well you know . The worst she got was being engaged slash , married to assholes too Well you know , the worst she got was being engaged , slash , married to assholes Exactly so like in reality .
she didn't really like . She had shit that she went through . That's you know , that's undeniable .
But it's still like normal and even real life standards where I'm like , oh well , you know a couple bad relationships , not to discount it , but like it , like you said .
Like if you just imagine like , oh well , you know , I've been dead before , oh , I've been crippled , oh I pretty much , uh , went to assassin school and I was like , well , shit makes my life feel real boring right now . I don't know , maybe that's just me yeah , no , totally agree .
But I would have . Just if she would have passed the whole season without saying anything , I wouldn't have mind . I wouldn't have mind oh yeah , that's right .
Fucking snitch bitch like John was like bro , listen , listen , I'm a Targaryen , don't tell anybody . And she was like alright , bet . And then next thing you know , she turned around and was like hey , yo guess what John told me I'm like bro . I'm getting it bitch oh , I wanted to say that , oh , I got the tea bitch .
Oh my god , did you ever ? There's an episode of . I wanted to say that ?
Oh , I got the tea bitch . Oh my God .
Did you ever there's an episode of Spongebob where , like , they tell Spongebob a secret and then he just goes like okay , your secret's safe with me , and he goes ? Mr Krabs , Immediately Also Brian , was like do you guys remember sailor moon ? You guys remember the guy with the with the suit and the math ?
Yeah , you remember when he would go like my job here is done and then say the moon's like you didn't do anything . That was basically all eight seasons of fucking game of thrones . The fucking brand dude .
He did nothing and he was like I did everything that is the most accurate depiction but you know what , if it was the original sailor moon , you got me , you got me . But sailor moon crystal , he has more agency . So I'm like , okay , I , I can still see it though , but I'm like I'm kind of glad that they fixed that .
And crystals , where I'm like , hey man , you gotta give this boy like some more things to do . You know like , don't just have more throwing a rose .
Yeah , just throwing a rose .
I'm like man what's that gonna do ?
distract him . That's all it does . He throws the rose , gives a grand speech about how Sailor Moon is gonna save the goddamn day and then disappears into the night . Like what kind of bullshit .
And then Bran said that Arya was going to win the day by using her amazing abilities . And then the guy bounced ironically because he's in a fucking wheelchair .
It's like saying it's um , that one fairy that you have , you know , legends there a little . We're like , hey , listen . And it was like this piece of advice where I'm like the fuck , I need this war . The only difference is with tuxedo mask . It was like , come on , be honest , it was kind of sexy , right . I went , man , get the fuck out of here .
They had all of us girls fooled , thinking tuxedo mask was the one . But they didn't fool us with brand .
No , they fooled you . They fooled you , honey . Other girls were like nah , I ain't funny like this , but they fooled you . This guy just comes out of nowhere with a nice-ass suit and a nice-ass hat and some nice-ass sunglasses in the middle of the night . I'll fucking smack the shit out of you .
That should have been my response , but I'm over here like tuxedo mask . Oh my God , can't wait .
Sailor Moon , those are the days yeah , what else about season seven ? Oh , they have this brilliant idea to where , okay , let's get all the lords of the seven kingdoms together to convince Cersei that , hey , man , we got bigger problems than this childish squabble that we have with each other .
Like there are fucking zombies with ice powers approaching and we need to do something about this . And then Cersei's like man , whatever , I ain't worried about no goddamn zombies . She's like oh , yeah , I bet let's go find one , capture it , bring it back and we'll show her . And then they did show , right . And you would think like , okay , well , whatever .
But you know , cersei didn't really care whether it was a zombie or not . It was like and y'all pretty much wasting my time , but what made it worth was that , john , john , bro , sometimes you really need to shut the hell up , because he fucked that up Even worse , speaking up about you know John Snow .
What he needed to do was focus . He needed to grab Everyone's's greatest fear and bring fucking proof . Everyone needed to bring proof Because you can't go around saying , Yo , this dude's dead , but he's an undead . So what do we call him A White Walker ? Cool . What are we going to do about that ? I don't know .
No hold on hold on .
No one believed him at first .
Hold on , wait a minute , wait a minute . I just feel like it's really funny how both Game of Thrones and the Walking Dead was popping off to where you have zombies being called walkers and I'm like , well , we can't call them just walkers because they'll be ripping up with the Walking Dead . Oh well , you know , hey , check this out , they're ice zombies .
Let's call them white walkers .
So when the final , when the lich finally got the dragon , I was like , nah , I'm not calling them white walkers anymore . This guy's the fucking lich king at this point . Oh , like he got the fucking dragon now . Nah , I would have . I would have turned it around immediately . I would have said , man , fuck this war , I'm going , I'm going somewhere else .
I'm going to Jamaica . Fuck this cold-ass island , fuck this cold-ass place , fucking cold-ass mountains . I'm gonna fuck out of here . Uh-uh , he's got a dragon , mm-mm . Not doing that , mm-mm . He's got a mass , he's got a . He's got giants , nuh-uh 1-800-FUCK-THIS
¶ Reflecting on Game of Thrones Seasons
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I yeah , oh yeah . Um , was there anything about season 7 y'all wanted to talk about cause ? Uh , I'm like , see , that's the thing like with season 7 . It was like , eh , it was some moments , but for the most part it was like I was here and there . I was like in and out of it .
Season 7 , no , season 8 it was like I was here and there , I was like in and out . Season 7 ? No Season 8 .
Mm .
Okay , okay , Skip Tuk , y'all got anything y'all want to add on to Season 7 before we focus on Season 8 ? No , oh , alright , okay . So , with that being said , let's go ahead and talk about season eight .
Um , specifically to where , bro , the fact of the matter is , I feel like the whole thing with the night king that shouldn't have , that shouldn't have um been concluded in like the first fucking five , like halfway through to where , like , if you made such a big deal about the white walkers uh being this imminent threat to the seven kingdoms , why does it seem
like , okay , let's pretty much uh wipe them out , but then after that , then , uh , we still need to , uh , we still got like five episodes left . So , uh , what ? What do we do ? So ?
Oh , well , you know , uh , let's just say that Danny just got real tired of losing loved ones between Ser Jorah , uh , two of her dragons , uh , by the way , one of the dragons , you know they got . Uh , they got sniped . By the way , one of the dragons , you know they got .
Uh , they got sniped by the pirates with the fucking ballista and shit and like , the only reason how that even happened was that , oh , she forgot that they were there .
Like , if you don't believe me , the fucking writer said to himself like , for some reason , she just forgot and I'm like bro , the fact that the writer couldn't have thought of a good reason why the dragon had to die or , better yet , there wasn't a way for there to be two dragons throughout the end , like see did it and fucking suicide squad 2016 and he also
did in X-Men Origins Wolverine to where it just seems like he just got this problem , where he just likes to make a story , like pretty much write the ending of that story and then write everything else around that ending . So you can kind of tell to where he kind of cared more about how it's going to end more than the build up to it .
So it just kind of cared more about how it's going to end more than the build up to it . So it just kind of goes to show that , yeah , some folks are only good at adapting original properties and some folks just didn't have any business trying to make original shit .
By season 7 and eight you can already tell that there was this was becoming more of a cash grab or more of like .
It became more of a hassle than actually like doing the show , because I know that they were pouring millions of dollars onto the show and I I know that most of the actors were already like , they were already done with the show , even though they didn't want it to end , because they were having a great time , but it was becoming more of a hassle than anything .
And with the dragon , they were like sir , what are we going to do with the dragon ? Does it have any plot ? Yes , is there anything going to be done with it ? Yes , what is it ?
Yes , yes , yeah .
Yeah , he didn't know what was going to happen . Nobody knew , nobody knew what was going to happen . They were like , yeah , we're going to have the dragon die . Why ? Because it looks cool . Just imagine Snow dragon . Oh shit , you're right , I'm going to roll 20 . A d20 . And hopefully , if it hits a critical , I I'm gonna bounce the fuck out of here .
Everybody was already done . All the actors that died , they were like okay , cool . Finally .
Bro , I , I , okay , you know how . I said that there were just some characters that should have just been left alone .
How , not only did they bring the Hound back into the fold for whatever reason , how , okay , suddenly he's cool with Brienne and all that the fact that his final fight was with the mountain , and I'm trying to remember , hold on , how did he become a zombie with the red eyes and shit , because , like I don't remember him dying for some reason .
Maybe I'm lost , I don't know , but uh , uh , point being is that there was this whole clagame bowl and like they were both fighting and swinging whatnot . Of course the melon did his classic I'm just gonna puncture your eyes out and , uh , you know , the hound was like I have you know what ?
Fuck all this , I'm just gonna throw you into the fire with me , and it's like whoa shit . Well , at least they're both definitely dead now didn't the mountain die ? uh , because of some poison oh yeah , it was something like that . But I was like I was wondering did he get poisoned by somebody , or was it like random or some shit ?
So it's something like something . I would say some kyber will cook up to where okay , let's make a poison to it , it'll kill him , but he'll come back with zombie strength .
Yeah , because , oberyn , he stabbed them with a spear and then they decided they wanted to bring him back . So they conducted a spell similar to like the white walkers , instead of like cold , he can just walk during the day , warm day he would be okay with it .
But there was a , there was like a spell that was done to him and then he just came back to life . But uh , hold on , my bad . So he could have . I don't know if you guys you guys know , but like besides the white walkers , um , fucking at the mountain , he was still like , his body was still disintegrating .
I don't know if you guys knew that , but he wasn't he wasn't like gonna be there forever . He was eventually gonna completely decompose and die . Everyone in the show was like complaining about the smell .
Okay , I don't know why , but I just felt like ever since the whole thing um fuckin' Pedro Pascal's character getting killed by him , like for some reason I just felt like he just got blocked out of my memory .
Like , see , it was kinda like with Ramsay Bolay bolton's where at least with ramsay bolton , there was a good reason why I want to block him out of my memory . But with the mountain I was like I don't know , it's like I just I might just went blank when it came to um , some , some scenes and whatnot .
Ugh , I'm sorry , it's like even when I'm trying to get ready for reviews and whatnot , I'm like for some reason I just cannot keep a mental picture of this guy after that whole fight .
After he dies and they bring him back . The Hound persisted that he wanted to fight this man . He needed that score settled and he knew for a fact he didn't want to fight his I guess it was his brother and he didn't want to fight that fight because he knew for a fact that the mountain might have actually fucking killed him .
Um , but hey , it was a good fight at the end and the mountain did put up a fight , though the hound was better . Yeah , and Thirsty fucking ate shit at the end . Dude , that fucking mountain Not mountain that big-ass boulder on top of her head fucking crushed the shit out of her . I was so happy when that shit happened .
I was like , see , this is the whole thing you had going on crashing on you , which was the metaphor . In and of itself was beautiful , oh , okay .
When you put it like that okay , I can see the blue on the shirt .
Yeah , her entire kingdom . It fell on her and that was her ego , was all her whole thing . She thought for a fact that she , that she , was untouchable . She thought that she was a fucking goddess . And then what happened ? At the end ? Your whole fucking empire just crashed out on you , and you know what . You fucking deserved it . And you know what .
You're not gonna get anything back and you know what . Your family ain't gonna get shit either . Man , fuck your gold , fuck your golden kingdom .
None of what you wanted is gonna happen and actually , because of what happened now , you might have just her death , might have screwed everybody else , because that's less people that they had to fight in the White Walkers , though it didn't matter .
Hell plus ratio , plus you fell off Stank bitch . L plus ratio , plus you fell off Stank bitch .
You know Cersei deserved everything she got . In the end , she did . In the end she did . It's what she built up for . She built all this negativity and all this hostile way of living to then blame it on everybody else that wasn't her and then come to the end and be like why is all of this happening to me ? I didn't do anything wrong , bitch .
I'll cut your hair shorter . Fucking , smack the shell .
You want me to tell you what I thought was really interesting , though her hair was cut short , similar to like jonah bark uh , I hate that I hate it don't compare .
Don't compare , lady of arc I'm not comparing I'm just saying no , like the parallels , though I can see it , but it's like well , with jonah , are you think like okay's , like this heroine , that like saved people ?
And then with Cersei , like she's the one who pretty much did that fucking green fire bomb , like a fucking Superman , villain type shit like drinking glass of wine , like I .
Just when I saw the haircut , the first thing that came to my mind was jonah bark . But the thing that came right after that , it is the parallel . Like you said , jonah bark was a heroine in comparison to cersei , who's just an evil , narcissistic , self-serving dictator who is incestuously obsessed with her brother , and it's just .
It doesn't make any logical sense and it honestly , seeing that haircut pissed me off so much .
I'm still trying to wrap my head around it .
Let me tell you something , skip . Oh God , when you get paid a million dollars to stare out a window and drink some wine , it don't matter what brother you have sex with .
That's what you decided to come in on . That's what you decided to say to me .
Yes , it's a part of my name . It is a part of my name . It is a part of my name . You know my name . I don't need to defenestrate you Through the window . I'm the baby mama lord First of his name , professor Tuck . And that happens to be somebody . Baby mama Just happened to be , you know , a brother .
It's not your baby mama , right .
No , no , a brother , not the brother meaning black Like brother .
Meaning brother ? Oh , you mean like the incestuous person that she is .
Yeah , if you want to call that , but love is love right Hold on the fact that I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that Jamie and Cersei had three kids together and nobody caught on up until like season seven , when she was like you know what fuck , I don't care , Anybody knows .
Well , I'm surprised , they came out just fine .
Well , hold on Two out of three One of them didn't come out just fine .
One of them come out real messed up in the head .
No , no , no , Hold on . One of them come out real messed up in the head . One of them had mental health issues . One of them was crazy and then I don't know , the girl was just regular .
Yeah , that's the thing . The girl was the only regular one , but she got killed by the sand people . She got poisoned . That was about it , but other than that I was like . The rest of them was like okay .
She probably ate flesh , or something we just didn't know .
She probably oh my God , she probably tortured animals in her free time .
I think Tyrion was the only one who was just like looking at these kids like I know who they belong to .
Well , yeah , it's like Nobody would take him serious for most of his life , though I know who they belong to .
Well , yeah , like Nobody would take him serious For most of his life , though . So if he would've said something , they'd be like man , this motherfucker lie .
Same week , but they look so much like Jamie .
Girl what ? And my boy , ned , got killed for figuring it out . Black of hair . Black of hair .
Black of hair . Hold on with Joffrey . He was kind of sort of taken after his mom . A little bit harder , though .
Yeah , you're right , his mom was crazy too , but even she was trying to reel him in , though . When a crazy person got to reel him in , though , yeah , when a crazy person gotta reel you in , bro .
Like even she was a little
¶ Analysis of Villains Winning in Stories
scared of him . She was like I , you , you doing a little too , you a little too weird but then thomas was like , okay , you're quiet , you're soft , like I can control you .
Like , okay , do what mommy says . And then , uh , ole oleana , who was the actual person who , uh , orchestrated the purple wedding that we're calling it , where you know , joffrey got poisoned and died in that one .
But uh , the old lady was telling , uh , fucking marjorie was like , hey , man , you gotta put the pussy on that boy before her bitchable mother gets in her head . And I was like okay . And then Marjorie was like , okay , I'm gonna give you some cooter . And then after that you're gonna do exactly what I say .
And I was like , okay , this comment was being controlled by two women . And then the only choice that he made , free of anyone's influence , the only choice that he made on his own , was Falling out of that Fucking window . This fucking show . Like , see when it's written , right , it's amazing .
But I just don't know what to tell you with this final season , man , it felt like at this point they just focused more on the dragons and fighting and whatnot . It was like it just kind of lost that Game of Thrones charisma to where it just felt like there were more crafty ways that they would have gone about all this .
But at this point it was more like , well , fuck it , let's just get over with war and shit , be straightforward and whatnot .
I'm like I said it before and I'll say it again Both of the final seasons were rushed and they didn't know what the fuck they were doing .
Yeah .
But like , okay , like I'll be fair , I'll be fair here , I'll be fair , I'm not a writer . I'll be fair , I'll be fair here , I'll be fair , I'm not a writer , I'm a painter , I'm an artist , but I'm not a writer . So let's be honest , I don't know shit about any of this whole process .
I don't know what it takes to even make a script and get people together to do this . But when you make a show , you gotta make it knowing the start , the middle , the center point , the plot and the end . And then you get to the end and it's like okay , cool , but why did ? Why was Arya the finishing blow ?
I thought Jon Snow was the fucking protagonist here . Where did how did what ?
See , that's's the thing . That's why I feel like with game of thrones , that's why I tried to break the mold on what you would expect from a fantasy story to where , uh , sometimes the hero is not who you expect to be and hell like for the most part .
What I noticed throughout game of thrones is how , whenever somebody wants to get vengeance on somebody , it's they that gets punished for it . It's like it's not the person that's like , oh , um , they did me wrong and now they're gonna suffer for it . And then they actually suffer for it . No , no , no .
It's more like , oh , they're gonna , they did me wrong and now I'm gonna plot against them . And then their plot blows up in their face and it's like , oh well , you know , that's kind of billy of the beast in this kind of world where sometimes you don't get what you want , sometimes your plan don't go as planned you know what I mean .
Like sometimes the bad guys win , like they just keep on winning to be honest , if I could see a show where the villain actually wins , I wouldn't mind it , I mean hold on .
There's some examples , but that depends on how you want to look at it , though .
I would like to look at it with my eyes .
Bert , look at it with my eyes burnt . I'm trying to think . I'll get back to you on some examples , but I was trying to think . I know there were like some where technically the villain won , but JoJo's Bizarre Adventure , that's a good example .
It's where , depending on how you want to look at it , it's where it's like , okay , spiritually speaking , uh , the joe stars won because you know they don't have to fight anymore . But if you're like thinking of the whole traditional route to where , how it all went down , it's more like , uh , it's , it's more like the end .
They ended it with a flash point where they just had to pretty much redo it all and just do it differently , to a point where , oh , the bad guy's not going to win the next time , but technically he won .
I mean , if I'm ever going to mention JoJo's Bizarre Adventure . The only reason as to why Jotaro wins against Mr Vampire Dude is plot . That's one and two . He got lucky . Okay , cool , he knows how to use the world Congratulations . But this guy already has been using the world for fucking ever and he knows how it works .
And then suddenly , the main protagonist just gets it . It's not suddenly , but it's whatever . But he does get what he wants . The bad guy does get what he wants . It just takes a long time for the protagonist to kick his fucking ass .
That's true , Now that you brought that up . Another example is Final Fantasy VI Kefka . Oh yeah , uh now that you brought that up . Another example is final fantasy 6 . Tefka oh yeah , tefka actually succeeded in destroying the goddamn world . That day was really depressing when you got something wait a minute .
I think . I think I may have an example . Let me get back to you on that . You guys continue , but I'm thinking here . I'm thinking and when I think , my brain kind of like gets toasty . So I gotta open a window and have the smell of fire get out .
I have like a very descriptive brain fart . I don't know why , but yeah , casca ended up freaking , destroying the world , and final fantasy 6 is not a short game . It's not short , and you , of course , you know most final fantasy games are definitely turn-based .
So you're going turn after turn after turn to get to the end of this goddarn game , and you're you're supposed to be healing from trauma , right , like that's the whole point of final fantasy 6 is for you to heal from the trauma that has been brought upon you by devastation of your home world or land .
Whatever right you get to the end , you go through the exact same trauma all over again . For Kafka to blow up the world in your face . He wins , though what was the name of ?
the game what was the name of the game ? Where the protagonist is like killing giants and comes to find out that at the end those giants existed because they were trying to keep an evil from from coming into the planet and then the main character is a vessel to that evil power , so they had to seal the entire facility just to keep that .
Shadows of Colossus .
That's it . That game was really sad too .
You come to find out that the whole purpose of this Was for the villain to win and in reality he did succeed . He did win Because the Colossus , the giants , they were protecting the planet .
If , um , if the other arcs didn't happen back in 2016 , or whatever it came out , I would have said Berserk , because if it was like the original run of Berserk , like the fact that um the way it ended . I was like , oh man , like if they didn't do anything past that , that would be a great example of how , yeah , the villain won .
There's no getting around that he won that one , to be fair . To be fair , the hand from Berserk .
They haven't succeeded in almost anything because they've been trying to bring back a new member into their group , but Guts keeps killing everybody else and it really doesn't leave them much of an option to kind of like go on , either summon him into their world or them go to him to try to fucking kick his ass because he keeps Filling everything .
They're not , they're not . He's not letting them win , they're not losing , they're not winning either . I just want to see that final fight , though , supposedly when we are getting the final fight , but this is taking forever .
I mean hold on , hold on . I didn't want to go this far , but like Attack on Titan , oh yeah , Didn't the villain technically win ?
This is perspective here . Who's the villain you're talking ?
about ? Yeah , exactly , it depends on how you look at it .
Okay , I mean , did Aaron , he succeeded In becoming the founding titan . He did succeed in that and he got it . Okay , I mean , did Aaron really he succeeded in becoming the founding titan ? He did succeed in that and he got it . Shit did he get it .
But like , he did take out 80% of the world population before they were like , okay , we're going to have to stop you now . But I was like that was hard to plan the whole time .
Like did he commit genocide ? Yes , did he kill a lot of people ? Yes , did he kill the people he wanted to kill ? The percentage is very low . But no , he didn't . So he didn't technically and mikasa did did an amazing work in , in delivering the final blow .
Like getting a good cut in there . Aaron , you're my hero .
God damn it . Remember kids . You can't spell . You can't spell . It is without terrorists .
Wait , what , what ?
Aaron Yanker is my hero and you can't spell terrorist without it . Yankeragerists unite . Well , I can't wait for my little mini Yeagerists to grow up . It's going to be a beautiful day . Okay , I'm done . I'm done , I'm just joking .
Baby homicidal assholes running around like trying to make a revolution and shit like okay , um , was there anything else y'all want to talk about with season eight , like I'm trying to remember shit . Actually , I feel like Hold on . Season eight was actually kind of shorter than usual . I'm so used to the .
It was senior than usual too .
Yeah , yeah .
I'm so used to the ten episode things where , like I'm looking at the episode count , I'm like wait , hold on . It was six episodes really . I thought it was like more than that okay .
Um what else can we say about season 8 ?
I we say about season 8 . I feel like it was a shit fire up . Okay , we just need to go ahead and like wrap this shit up because we don't know when the hell those books are coming out . So we might as well make something kind of satisfying . But let's be honest , if those books are coming out , so we might as well make something kind of satisfying .
But let's be honest , if those books come out , if those books come out , I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason why we have fucking House of the Dragon , how I think they were trying to do another Game of Thrones prequel Blood Moon , I think it was and eventually I just feel like it's going to be a whole Game of Thrones Brotherhood type situation to where
, okay , now that the books are completed , we might as well go back , do it again this time . Let's make it more faithful to the books and we might have something .
Because , let's be honest , like this might Sound bad , but I'm just calling it like I see it , I don't think a whole lot Of people like reading , like it'd be like that one episode Of the boondocks where Uncle Ruck is trying to get Stink Meaner who was being Possessing Tom's body , and be like read , nigga read .
Uncle Ruck is trying to get Stink Meaner who was being Possessing Tom's body , and be like read , nigga read . And I'm like no .
Motherfucker Starts screaming Like on top of his lungs and showed him a book , not even the bible , it was just a book .
Wait a minute . We only need two books for this series to finish , and George RR Martin still ain't done yet .
Pretty much .
My dear . We've been going at this for so long and it's been so many years since the last book . Look at this point . Everybody would just be happy if they got at least a page out .
Oh my god , even if George R R Martin is the biggest genius of all time and has just finessed us into believing that he's going to finish this series when he's probably more than likely not , or he's a masochist or sadist yeah , we'reochist or sadist .
Yeah , we're gonna say sadist . I mean the way he written All that shit leading up to Um , the fifth book on what was it ? Fifth book on Dance with Dragons , and all the other shit where it's like , okay , all these characters , all these solid characters , y'all like , oh , it'd be a shame if they got written off , like are you surprised ?
You know , when Skip said that he's either a narcissist or a sadist , I thought you said he's a Mexican , and in my mind I was like dee , dee dee , dee , dee , dee , dee , dee , dee , dee , dee , dee , dee , dee dee .
He's a Mexican and in my mind I was like I should shut up now .
I'm going to go away for a second . I swear to God . I thought you said he's either Mexican or a Satanist .
¶ Game of Thrones Disappointment and Success
I'm like wait , what does that ?
have to do with anything . What ?
do you mean by that ?
Oh my God , I didn't say it . I'm like what did you mean by that ? Oh my god , I didn't say it . What did you ?
mean by that . It wasn't me , it was your twin sister With the Turnaround mustache . Oh lord .
It gotta be like the Hand handlebar mustache and the triangular beard oh , and the little twirly of that triangular beard .
Yeah , george rr martin is I just feel like he's lying at this point I feel like George RR Martin is . I just feel like he's lying at this point . I feel like I don't know if you guys know this , but it made 3.1 billion dollars the books or the show , the show that makes sense .
HBO history yeah .
I mean , yeah , okay , that makes sense . Yep , yep , that sounds about right . Highest grossing thing in HBO history .
Yeah , I mean yeah , wait , what was his cut ? Can somebody tell me ? Because I want to know . Inquiring minds would like to know how much money that man made .
Let me use my Googles real quick .
Yo Google .
I mean , that really depends on if people are still like streaming it on HBO . Imagine , you know , especially House of the Dragon coming out to where , like , maybe it's getting a little bit more traction in relation to House of the Dragon .
So I wouldn't be surprised if he , like he's making enough money to where he really doesn't have to write another book in a day in his life .
Using my Googles . He made about $15 million a season .
Yeah , see that .
Yearly . You know that's on the front end , the back end . So his yearly take-home is about $25 million . Every time a season drops , his net worth is $120 million .
Man , he don't even have to work anymore .
I just need to write a book . He's been writing that same book for a while . He got another book after the book . He's going to be the biggest Vanessa ever .
The biggest Vanessa in history of book writing . The biggest Vanessa in history of book writing .
The biggest Vanessa he probably got it already . Wrote he's just waiting on his deathbed , or something .
Well , to be fair , I've read or heard about this one perspective to where , oh well , he doesn't want to put out the books and he had to compete with the success of the show . It's like , okay , let the show like have his 15 seconds of fame , you know whatever that analogy is , and then he'll put out the books .
But , man , like , the show was popping off so hard where you know , until they ran out of material and the writers , the showrunners of the show , was like , okay , we might as well just wrap this shit up . And I'm like , bro , even then that was years ago , hold on , let me check real quick , fucking , let me check that was 2019 . That was five years ago .
Was they moving over to ?
Star Wars or something .
What now ?
The showrunners . They was moving over to Star Wars or something .
I hope not , bro they moved over to something .
That's why they wanted to wrap it up .
I hope it's not Star Wars , because it's bad enough . Bro , Star Wars is getting bad enough as it is To where it's kind of hit and miss .
I'm just afraid with the new Star Wars Matrix that's coming out , get it . Cause Trinity's in there .
I don't wait , wait , wait . They moved over to Star Wars . Yeah , weiss and Benioff would write and produce a new series of Star Wars films after the last season of Game of Thrones ended in 2019 .
Oh Wow .
Be right back .
Wow .
They was excited about something else .
They were so distracted . They was like , yes , we can finally leave . And I also heard and I don't know how true this is , but that George RR Martin was definitely . He definitely wanted so much control over the script and how things were going and I didn't wonder .
I do too , but I wonder how much that like affected the ending it didn't affect the ending , because they already knew the ending in the beginning yeah , that's what I was talking about , where they write the fucking shit in reverse , where they work on the ending first and then they write everything around it that doesn't make sense , though , because that last season
was shot so poorly , were they just tired about it ?
no , they were just incompetent . Doesn't make sense , though , because that last season was was was shot so poorly was it were they just tired about it ?
no , no they're just incompetent oh , I agree , no , no listen hold on , they would say , uh , okay , there was a petition . Uh , to hbo . They described the showrunners as woefully incompetent writers and demanded competent writers to remake the eighth season of game of thrones in a manner that makes sense . That's what people were saying to where I'm like .
People are objectively saying like bro , these people have no business making movies and tv shows . Like , like have you seen the 2016 Suicide Squad movie ? Have you seen the direction of X-Men Origins Wolverine ? Like how it just felt .
Like , bro , like y'all , we can tell that they were so focused on the ending that they didn't know how to write the beginning or the middle of it .
Yeah , that is . That is a weird form of writing .
I'm gonna be that's really .
That's really wild , cause you can make an ending where , at the end , I don't know fucking chimpanzee goes into a black hole and fucking I don't't know saves the universe and the start of it has nothing to do with it . That's , that's just wild .
That's just wild , yeah uh , anything else about game of thrones y Y'all wanna throw out there Nothing , oh well . Solid it's a go . Okay , I was just trying to make sure . Oh shit , everybody was muted Alright . Well , if nothing else , uh , what can I say ? Game of Thrones started off at a high note and then it just got disappointing at the end .
But would I watch it all over again , probably .
¶ Concluding Game of Thrones Podcast Review
With that being said , let me go ahead and wrap up this extreme review . I thank you , saitama , smash Mirror , jane and Professor Tuck first of his name , baby Mama Lord For joining me for this Three , four , five part review . I don't know .
Professor Tuck , I have a question before we end this .
Is this going to be like a pimp named Slipback ?
Yeah , expect that on pretty much every episode of the podcast .
So this is a pimp named Slipback version .
Yeah , pretty much Gotcha Gotcha With that being said .
A pimp named Slipback .
Oh Lord .
Love this guy .
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