Dragon Ball Z: The Xtreme Review (Majin Buu Saga)

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So it's not really nostalgic , but it's just funny how you go back 20 years and you can still remember a shit from the Boo Saga and the Seven Saga and from the back , and we just walked to me thinking about that today . But let's talk about some events that happened in the budget .

Boo Saga for this first part , because we want to split it up into three , we're going to talk about the very beginning of the Boo Saga , up until Good Boo got absorbed by Evil Boo . All right , let's go into it Well , further , due to my sewn in on it .

Seven years later , after the events of the Selze games , goku is allowed to go back to Earth for one day to reunite with his loved ones and meet his youngest son , goat 10 , at the World Martial Art Tournament . No , of course , honestly , I'm kind of pissed off that the other World Tournament was not canon , but whatever .

But you know , yeah , okay .

Okay , but soon after , goku and his allies are drawn into a fight by the Supreme Kai against a magical being named Majin Buu , who is summoned by the evil wizard Babadi . Now pause .

First of all , let's talk about how we Goku , being able to come back to Earth for like one day , just for one day , and you're telling me all of the events that happened within one day .

So but let's just like start slowly building up to that point because , yes , everything happened in one day as far as we got there , but there was a little bit that kind of built into it , not a whole lot , but just a little bit . But let's see . So we got the start . We got Gohan getting older and he's , like Callie says he's finding himself .

He's finding himself just trying to get an idea of who he is , what he wants to do and just , you know , try to live his life . No , he already had an event where he was like , hmm , I'm going to handle this situation . Wait , if they see my face , they're going to know who I am . I have to disguise myself somehow .

I know I'll go super Saiyan , I'll magically increase , I'll just go ahead and increase all of my stats and abilities by 10 against these normal human beings to disguise myself . Talk about it Exactly , just like I'm just going to OP these people . I'm already OP , but I'm going to OP the OP on these people . It was funny , it was funny to me and I get to .

Toriyama was trying to go back , I think , when when they did an interview they talked to him about it and he said that he wanted to try to kind of go back to Dragon Ball roots because he realized when he got all the way into the Cell Saga he completely left all of like Dragon Ball and I mean it's supposed this is a series that grows .

So I understand him wanting to kind of take that step back . But unfortunately it didn't work out that well . A lot of fans didn't like it because a lot of fans were still mad that Goku was dead . A lot of fans was like no , it was supposed to be Gohan's story . He was finally coming up . Everything was doing well for him .

He was finally in school doing what he's got to do Talks to Balmour gets this special costume because for some bizarre reason , as a kid he was still fascinated all the way back on Planet Namek .

When he was a kid he was still fascinated with all the super poses and shit and stuff like that that the getting you for us had dead because he was studying so much as mom never allowed him to really watch TV like that , so he saw it . It was so interesting to him . But trying to stay in this little kid , we love Power Rangers . Let's just be realistic .

We like Power Rangers , no , we like Sailor Moon . We do so . We just want to have that opportunity .

He kind of lost the reason to , you know , keep training a lot and stuff like that , but he still realized that there was a lot of crime that was happening in the city the name of the city escapes me right now , but in the city that he lives in , where he's going to high school and everything , he still sees that there's a lot of crime .

So he's like somebody's got to do something about this . So , of course , he does the only logical thing and becomes a superhero , literally . When he saved the world the last time and I don't know if it was something like he felt some sort of guilt for giving it up .

So I feel like maybe it was a way for him to kind of like redeem himself and still live true to like his saying roots or something like that . So we really can't leave it out anyway , because this is when he meets the Dell , you know , his future wife . It's really funny , though , because she becomes so like the spin of them and she finds them out .

He's like there's no way anybody knows that my identity is , so he just goes through the whole superhero issues and everything . So that the same great saying man arc has a special place my heart , the one where he has like the do rag part Not a huge fan I like , the more , I like the more .

I like the helmet a lot better , the helmets a little bit more , and the so the do rag and the sunglasses .

I don't know if those will be kind of a way to for a curatorial now to read himself , because go Han was supposed to become , you know , the new , the new protagonist , and this was to take the place of Goku .

But , like you said , so many people got pissed about Goku dying and in trying to go on with go Han , I feel like maybe this is kind of like a love letter to that initial thought that a curatorial man had before he decided to bring go .

And then also being it's a love letter for his back to Dragon Ball , because a lot of people , when people watch Dragon Ball Z , it was aired as a whole separate series , even though it was a continuation from Dragon Ball , which you know , toriyama called it Dragon Ball Z because he wanted to be the end , and of course , look at what we're at now , but still

he wanted to be the end of that series . He wanted to , you know , go back to his Dragon 8 wasn't Dragon Age , I forgot what it was . So some of his other series that he was working on , he was wanting to kind of just like move on , but you know fans don't like to move on , so like , no , you want more of this .

And so I could tell he was kind of going back to that moment of look , this is what I really like doing . You know , I like going back to the old comedy , to like I'm old school like he's he's . He's old , obviously , so he's like real , real old school .

He enjoyed those old school Japanese dramas and Japanese comedies and stuff like that , and I love that too . But the thing about it is , most of his fans is Dragon Ball Z at this point . So when we got to this moment , a lot of people didn't like it .

Either some people when they finally , if they were into Dragon Ball Z , they didn't think of it as the original Dragon Ball anymore . You've seen it . But he's completely grown now . That was the kid version . Now we're into adult . This is a completely different person , a completely different version than what it was before , and he wanted to go back .

Fans did not want to go back . They were like no , you like where we're at right here .

So that's when we finally got to that moment of Goku stepping in for one day . Literally , think about it . There was no real reason that he could only come back for one day . He could have came back for longer . Every single time that Forge Tell Ababa has brought people back , it could have been longer .

So now I'm going to jump around a little bit on this , but we're going to still focus on this point to the story . So Goku was supposed to be there for one day . All of this bullshit was happening all the way up to like fat boo comes out and everything . All of this bullshit , like Jet Black said , happened only one day .

No , it happened in less than a day because , remember , once he went Super Saiyan 3 , he shortened up his time . So , realistically , all this happened in a span of hours , right , so all this spanned within a couple of hours . That was all supposed to be so realistically . Toriyama again .

It's like I'm going to bring Goku back , but he's only coming back for one day . That is it . This is Gohan story . I'm not going to make this Goku story . Fans . Fans are the reason that Dragon Ball , that Dragon Ball Z Boo Saga , turned out the way that it did .

But Toriyama did a great job in being able to satisfy fans who , at the same time , still giving up the biggest F you possible . Just realistic in this aspect . It was definitely supposed to be Gohan story , so Goku comes back for a little bit . Vegeta is also being a family man .

He's also not , you know , fighting or training as often as he was before either , and you can tell this arc in the shit out of him , but he's just doing what he can . He's like fuck it , whatever . Then they finally go ahead and they get into the tournament . Now , of course , yes , we got our introduction to Videl in the school .

She is another than Hercules daughter and we're sitting here like I don't know . The biggest question came in , like somebody had a kid with her kill . But then you also still got to realize , to remember her kill was actually a strong human being . Was he on Krillin's level ? Absolutely not . This man can not fly . He does not have key control .

He's not a human with key control , he's just a really strong human being . That's all the way it was and he did know .

Well , the Saiyans and Krillin and pretty much the other superpowered . You know , yamcha , I want to talk about Tien , because somebody made a point where it's being really human because he had , like the forearm foreman , yes , three eyes . It's really human .

That's the only powerful human that's really there . Everyone else is just kind of stuck like that's it .

She thought it was stupid until they got together she got it wrong , but at first she definitely thought that was stupid . It's very interesting in that aspect of how , like , how much she has progressed as a character . I like how , you know she's been introduced into this like so late into the story that already has become a fan favorite .

Like a lot of people love Vidal and I can just understand why . She's a great mom . You know she still does what she's supposed to do and the thing about it is she's also one of those ones that she's like she does not adopt the same habit that Chi Chi has done . A lot of people have a lot of contradictions about Chi Chi , but she's old school .

I mean we gotta understand . Remember she's very old school in this aspect of she was raised up Well , during the time that she was created . As far as into the story . It was also very big in not just Western culture but also in Japanese culture as well . The man work .

The wife was the stay at home wife and so she raised the kids and cooking and cleaning and stuff like that . So that's the reason why Chi Chi is that way , because that's just her old style . She can do things . She can , like you know , fix up stuff . She can do other like odd jobs and stuff . However , that's not her main thing to do .

That's Goku's job per se . She's just . She took on the role of housewife , but Videl doesn't do that Like . She still is like a mom , but she's not a housewife . She still has a job . She still does things just like Gohan would does things .

And it's a great like change from the old method to the new method , like the old household to the new household , because nowadays it's very common for both parents to be working . In fact , both parents aren't working . It's usually questionable , but there are different ways around , there's ways that you can make it work and stuff .

So it's one of those things that like it's a great change , it's a great change of pace and that's one of the things that helped Videl become such a fan favorite that a lot of people will grew to like her . So , yeah , I really like Videl too . Now , this is where we all so this is where we're finding this point of all .

This did happen within a day , but it wasn't just Goku . Goku was primary , yes , but it wasn't just Goku and Vegeta , because it's awesome , it's him too , and what was his ? Bobo and Yatch or something I don't remember .

We've seen a lot of fucked up shit , but to see Spobo bitch fight Videl and practically crush her head under his food , that was like what the fuck foul shit . Everything in my life I like I think people do fucked up shit , but that fucked up shit .

Some villains have a moment that they stop when a person is down . A person has been beaten , you're done . Okay , it's not , and it's always the same . It's scoops . If you notice it's not worth fighting anymore . You hear that a lot . You're not worth the hassle , you're not worth fighting anymore after they've already beaten them down .

That was not the case here , and that's when you really tell certain villains . Certain villains thrive on seeing people in their absolute lowest and then beating them down further . They don't stop . And you have certain villains that are very much like that in various different other shows , and those become the most hated villains .

Like put in this aspect here , going back from all the Dragon Ball villains that we've seen so far , just some of the biggest ones King Piccolo . He was just finishing off . He wouldn't just keep going , he'd go ahead and kill you Once he's beaten you , he'd kill you or just let you grapple , but he wouldn't keep going , frieza , he just get done with you .

He's just kidding . He's like fuck you . He just straight up killing you . He has to be done with you . But even though he made do such like , even when he impaled Cruella with his horn during his second horn , that was still kind of a move on . It was only really in .

It was in TFS was the ones that made it to where it was , like he just kept going and kept going and kept going and kept going . And the original anime he didn't do that . He did a couple of times . That was it . Even Cell beating down with , like , when he beat down Vegeta he had one more go .

He's like I broke your pride , broke your spine , boom , and then that was it . He stopped . Every villain stops . What makes it so ?

Now , you remember it's one of the big things into that once you've lost a fight , the only way to maintain your honor is death , and that was the thing . Death was still you .

Like , specifically , you use it to like to slice your stomach open and then you have somebody who has their katana and then they end you , you know , cut off your head , to go ahead and end the pain right then and there . So it's an honorable death . In this aspect .

What made this beatdown with the Dell so horrible was the fact that it was the absolute dishonor . It was that moment of absolute dishonor . You won the fight . You already won . The referee already called it and said that you won and you said , no , I'm not done playing with my toy yet . And you kept going and kept going , and kept going .

She stopped breathing and he still kept going . It was absolute dishonor .

But the incident as far as into these characters , outside of that horrendous , dishonorable beatdown that was there , they were also out collecting and stealing energy from other people and constantly feeling it , fueling into the egg and , apparently , based on how the lore is gone , as far as into the manga .

They didn't just start doing this , they've been doing this for a little while . So remember , it's a huge gap between Cell and the begin , from when Cell died to the beginning of the Buse opera . So you know , gohan is like significantly older , everyone is significantly older . These two have been going around doing this for quite some time .

It was within this one day that Goku was here . The amount of energy that came out between the fight between Goku and Vegeta , which we're definitely going to talk about this fight , but the amount of energy that spurred between them , and then , of course , the fight between Gohan and the Daedora , the Demon King I don't remember his name .

So by bringing out all of that evil and that destruction that you want to do inside of you is what it puts you , not so much until blind rage , but it just makes you so . Like you know , you're in permanent anger . You're in permanent rage in a sense . So it's not blind , but you're still there .

And what it is that , by having that on you , the anger you get , the more you hulk up . Let's just go ahead and say hulk it . And the more you hulk up , the stronger the control works on you . So that's the reason it wasn't difficult .

But realistically , like there's actually has happened in the Marvel Universe one time in one of the comics where somebody had did that , the angrier Hulk got , the easier was to control him and the only way they could break the mind control was by was literally by calming him down .

That's the same thing that happened with , the same thing that happened with Bobbie's magic . That's just all it was . It was the fact that literally the angrier or the more evil that you have inside of you , the easier it is to control you . And that's the reason why Vegeta had control .

Vegeta had already long put aside his anger and rage , but he knew it made him weaker . But he created he as a saying , he created being stronger . So he still held on to that sliver of evil inside of him because he knew that rage , that evil , that all of that made him stronger . He knew it did . That's where Super Saiyan comes from .

I haven't got a chance to really talk about all the whole chakras and things like that that I had mentioned way earlier that I was going to go into , but just a brief explanation to this . Remember , when it comes down for the sayings , the sayings were cold hearted , by being cold hearted , that they had no emotion , they exuded no emotion .

That's why , back when with Dragon Ball , when Goku , whenever he got angry , even in Dragon Ball , he would significantly get stronger , like he would become significantly more powerful , where which is one of the main reasons why even though King Piccolo was beating him down , when Goku got angry from the fact that his friends had died , king Piccolo immediately noticed

that Goku got stronger . He's like he's angry , but he's gotten stronger . And he got so much stronger that King Piccolo couldn't handle it . Same thing with Frieza . Frieza pushed Goku to the edge . Goku was still not so much enjoying the fight , but he was still trying to keep his focus .

He was like I can't get angry , I got to be focused , I got to be focused , I got to be focused . And with that he wound up , still like . That's reason why Frieza was still able to keep getting the upper hand on him . Frieza kept trying to make him angry and every time Goku would slip into his anger , he would get up .

You get stronger , but he would lose his focus in the fight until Krillin died . That moment was nothing but sheer anger Goku . Just let his inner rage out . Whenever a Saiyan finally accepts their emotional , their emotions is where it is that Super Saiyan derives from . That's where that superpower increases .

When they finally say fuck , all of the focus , I am angry .

So the fact of the matter is , you're telling me that the secret formula to becoming a Super Saiyan is just getting angry , but then again it's in this saga . We have Goten and Trunks becoming Super Saiyan almost out of nowhere .

What happened was is that Chichi kept going at Goten because oh , we're going to the training .

You lost focus in your fight . The anger weakens you . The Saiyans Saiyan children are taught to not feel emotion . That's what makes them again cold hearted . If I get angry , I'm no longer becoming that Saiyan that I am . That saying that I've been brought up to be . If I become too happy , I'm not that saying that I'm supposed to be .

They're trained specifically not to exude emotion on purpose . Exuding emotion takes you away from what you're saying . Pride is supposed to be . That's the reason why Vegeta kept holding himself back so much . That's when he finally achieved Super Saiyan , when he finally got so angry that he realized what's left behind .

On that You're supposed to be Goku was always happy , go lucky . He became strong when he became angry and that's how it worked out for him .

And then introducing with Super , just a quick jump , introducing Super being blue chakra . A blue chakra is a different type of chakra from gold chakra or yellow chakra . Yellow chakra is horizontal to the actual chakras itself , into the chakra circle or the wheels . It's called a chakra wheel . It's like all the different colors mean different things .

Like green means something , blue means something , purple means something , white means something you know , ultra ego , ultra instinct , all of those on purpose . But yellow chakra is rage chakra and specifically the chakra of anger . Like that's very different to where , like in America , we associate red with the color of love and of rage .

But yellow has a completely different meaning here , with old Japanese tech or old Japanese chakra believes what ? Not just Japanese , also Chinese beliefs to the original chakra beliefs as far as different colors and chakras . Yellow was believed to be anger , so that's the reason why you get angry . You become Super saying .

You have golden hair , you become this yellow chakra . It wasn't being a whole later aspect because , remember , toyama said the reason he did Super saying before is because he just got tired of wasting all this black ink . It was costing a shit ton of money in a manga to keep coloring their hairs black .

So we would make him go Super saying as often as possible to save ink money . But then you know it leads to fans to kind of bring this into this , into this , that there may be more into it , which is now . We now have these different colors that come into play and it's like , huh , you know we have a red chakra , can ?

You notice the most common colors that you always see when it comes to , like , a group of protagonists in anime blue , red and green there's a reason for that and if you notice every single time , depending on their hair color , they have a very specific personality . Those personalities is based on their chakras . A lot of anime do it on purpose .

There's a reason that these color schemes happen the way they do . But yeah , but yeah . So like this continuous amount of energy that they release with their yellow chakra . So , but yeah , they the Spobovitch and I forgot the other nigga's name , he was unimportant . Spobovitch was the one that was like everyone just absolutely hated .

They were going around collecting this energy and putting inside Majin Buu's egg for a very long time .

So and that's where we wound up getting to this point of all this energy release from Gohan versus D'Bora , goku versus Vegeta , all this extra excess energy release that was happening from these two battles , on top of all the energy that was already put into the egg , is what led to Majin Buu being released Because , keep in mind , as far as the backstory I

think this one was not explained in the manga . I forgot where this one story came from , but the story about it goes , the reason that Majin Buu was put on Planet Earth was because of the lack of energy control .

Like it's put in this aspect , based upon what we've seen in Dragon Ball Z and in some parts of Dragon Ball Super , which can still kind of back it up a little bit , almost every other alien race has a key control . They can shoot keyblasts .

Even if they can't shoot keyblasts , they have the technology to produce their own key into weapons like guns and make key guns . So it receives the galactic force as well . The galactic force I forgot that little . He's a Gremlin . Fuck that . He's a fucking Gremlin . Anyway , that fucking Gremlins from Dragon Ball Super . He's a Gremlin to me .

I'm sorry , I don't know the way to introduce him to the story was weird , but the way as far as I can for him . He doesn't have like key control . He can't shoot a keyblast but by having this gun he can focus his own key into the gun and then shoot a keyblast . This is present in almost every single planet .

Out there in the universe , except Earth , very few people have key control . Master Roshi , he learned it from his master . He also learned more from Grandpa Gohan as well too . So we have the turtle hermit , we have the crane hermit , we have very select people that actually have key control , but most of the Earth have none whatsoever .

Even amongst all these martial arts tournaments , very , very few people have the ability to control their key to fly , have the ability to control their key to shoot a type of being cannon , but this is common for everywhere else . Majin Buu's AK is sealed with purpose of put on Earth because , damn , nobody has key control .

There's going to be such a small amount of key that's going to be released out into the planet . It was supposed to hold him there permanently , like forever , so that's the reason why he was supposed to be there . Nobody else has key control until Goku shows up . Goku shows up and by him being there we got introduced to Raditz . He had kids there .

So now we have Goten , we have Gohan . Vegeta shows up . So we have Vegeta . That's there accessing a shit ton of key energy . He has a kid Trunks . All because they showed up . We have all these extra things that start happening .

Remember , the Red Ribbon Army had already been doing different things , but as far as the control of key , that was never a big thing until we got to Android 19 and 20 , at what ? 17 , 18 , and 19 and 20 . And a little bit of 16 as well too , but none of the other androids really had key control like that .

There was no real point of harnessing key power . But then again , now we started having more of that . Cell shows up Key power you know , of course , frieza winds up showing up briefly Key power A bunch of key started showing up on Earth , something that was never supposed to happen . Earth was never going to develop key power .

Margot Boo was never supposed to be released , but all of this started happening over time . So there's more that was dived into the story and it's appreciative that they have that story on the head , this opportunity to be able to help dive into the story . I'm pretty sure he didn't do it by himself either way .

Still , it was a great aspect of diving on the last . But yeah , it's not , we're now , we're there , but I want to . So we have a couple of fights . I know I want to talk about the first before I move on . I had been talking hell of a lot . So jet black Cali , please . I have any type of input as well .

And I will say , with Super Saiyan three , I was kind of hyped for it because , you know , long flowing hair , the lack of eyebrows , like it didn't really bother me that much , because many look like , oh , he's way more serious , like you know , just like you were saying with Angers , it's like go , who has now hit a point to where he can go even further

beyond , and he's really serious now .

But the whole problem with Super Saiyan three is that it drains you of so much energy that you only use it for so long , especially when he was like still dead and he went Super Saiyan three against Ma Den Buu and King Kai kept trying to warn him from , you know , from the other side that yo , you can't do this , you're going to destroy the planet or you're

going to come back sooner , because you know you're not supposed to go up that high .

And also , with Super Saiyan three , like as cool as it looked , I will admit , yeah like it looks like it was introduced into Dragon Ball franchise way too soon because it's like you don't get really see a whole lot , like you kind of do get a fair bit of it , but it's almost like because it's so draining on the body that you're not really mastered Super

Saiyan three and I want to get into the other terrible Dragon Ball GT with Super Saiyan four , but I'm not going to go that far , but it's like ah , only that . But the mere fact that I mean I'm not really trying to complain , but just a coincidence , that would go to an entrant . They are learning fusion and they just so happened to hit Super Saiyan three .

I don't want to say never least we , but I'm sure they train for . But you know , you know , just a pacing of it all just got me thinking I don't know . But what's your thoughts on that ? Callie Koki , you got some one .

It was one of the coolest thing ever , not to mention even now the fight between him and Frieza still what is one of the longest running boss Arx I guess you want to talk about like when he was actually physically fighting Frieza , because it went on for three , three hours , about 30 minutes , so about six episodes or so .

And that's when I realized I was like , oh , we're Goku's eyebrows go . When I first looked at the design , I was like there's something off about this . And then when I was like , okay , see some kind of blue eyes or something he has no eyebrows .

We did have a whole bunch of filler situations Abba Dragon Balzi as well too . So when Toriyama drew Super Saiyan 3 , he actually admitted it he forgot to draw the eyebrows .

But if you actually pay attention to the anime , if you pay attention to the anime the very first , not the very first it's the second scene that they show . So the first time Goku goes Super Saiyan 3 , it shows him without eyebrows because that's how it wound up being in the manga .

But when he first goes to punch Majin Buu in the face for a split moment not even a split moment , for that whole little sequence it was about seven frames , I think it was for like seven frames right before he punches Majin Buu , he actually has eyebrows .

He said he was focusing so much on the hair that he didn't realize that he forgot to draw the eyebrows in because the chapter ended sorry , excuse me , the chapter ended with Goku's Super Saiyan 3 reveal . That was the end of the chapter , like it ended with just this boom , super Saiyan 3 , and that was it .

And you had to wait because that was like the end of the book , I think too . So you had to wait until he started finishing up the next chapter and that's when it wound up becoming so iconic and people started talking about yo , super Saiyan 3 has no eyebrows . What type of power is this that your eyebrows are going ?

Is it tucked underneath all the skin or like what is this ? And shit like that . And he was like , oh my God , I forgot . But of course his PR team was like , hey , roll with that shit . Super Saiyan 3 has no eyebrows . Now permanent . We're done with it . Roll with that shit . And they're like what ? So yeah , it was very much a toy .

The only thing to do he forgot . That was the funniest shit ever . When I read that interview I was like my nigga , you forgot to draw the hat . You know what ? We're gonna roll with that . We're just gonna roll with it . It's like one of those things understanding like an animation .

Literally it costs like almost like it was $100,000 to draw the pinky on characters . That's the reason why a lot of cartoons nowadays have like back with the Mickey Mouse cartoons and stuff like that .

They only had four fingers and the reason being is because drawing that pinky finger costs a whole extra $100,000 in production , because it took so much time to go back and make sure that the pinkies was drawn correctly , because it's much easier to draw four fingers than it is to draw five fingers , because it makes the hands look so abnormal .

So imagine that moment of just like oh , it would have cost so much money to go back , redo all that stuff . Well , not even redo , but go back and redo the original print , draw the eyebrows in , reprint it , redistribute everything in order to make sure the eyebrows is there .

They're like we're just gonna roll with it , we're not gonna spend that extra money , we're not doing that , we're rolling with it and we're done . So it's like okay , got you . I do want to mention it makes a lot of sense to me , exactly like hey , make a mistake , you roll with it . It's now a permanent mistake . We've already spent the money .

I'm not doing shit else . That is it , I know , but I will say this Goku going Super Saiyan 3 was the absolute most disrespectful thing that he ever did to Vegeta .

hold on . Before we get into that , I just want to point out we just give Sean Shummo his props for yelling for like 10 minutes straight . Oh , pass it out , oh , yes .

History was screaming his fucking voice out for Super Saiyan 3 .

So , bro , I remember literally when I was watching it , when the episode first , maybe when it first came out , but when it first aired on T'Nami Cause it was cause it actually came out way , of course , way back then , when it first came on T'Nami and I was sitting here watching this shit in like 830 at night , my mom yeah , what , who is screaming like that ?

They were like you just start getting more and more and more hair , more spikes , cause with Super Saiyan 1 and Super Saiyan 2 , or Ascendant Saiyan , you got more spiky hair . Then , literally , with Super Saiyan 3 , even more spiky hair . They were like I already know what's going to happen for next . Hahaha , sorry , I can't know .

All these little it takes a shit Like Super Saiyan . This is going to be this many hair , this much hair , this much hair , hahaha .

So , literally , if you had like printed out a four page paper but you have five pages that you printed out and at the bottom it says page four or five , it's like where's page five or five ? I don't know what you're talking about . Hahaha , cause five or five was this picture with the pictures . I copied off DeviantArt so I could get these free pictures .

Oh God , I would get in so much trouble , but it'd be worth it . Love these pictures . Some of them I still have . I still have reasons to Super Saiyan 10 that the person who had drew Goku with white hair , a white tail and um , like this special matter of fact .

This is one of the funniest things about it If you really pay attention to the very first um , viral picture of Super Saiyan 10 that came out way back when we were kids , if you pay attention to the designs . That was on his cause . He had like a cloak , he had like a skirt , like I forgot what it was called , but it's like a skirt .

I was like look at that Amazing work . But yeah , no , like Super Saiyan 3 to turn in was fucking hilarious , though , but still , disrespect to Mod , disrespect to Vegeta , but I know you want to talk about Mods and Vegeta .

You know , I was talking about character arc not too long ago where you have a positive change arc , like Future Trunks , you have a negative change arc , like Zamatsu in Dragon Ball Super , and you have a flat character arc like Goku , to where they don't really change as a person , but it's more like they're so likable that the world kind of learns from them

rather than the other way around . And between those three you have like what is a fall arc and a redemption arc , where the fall arc basically means that , okay , you were a bad guy , became a good guy , re-laught into being a bad guy , but you see the error in your ways and you go back to redeem yourself as a good guy again .

Well , vegeta was more like an anti-hero up until his final atonement against Majin Buu , and then , after that point , you can kind of say , okay , we can kind of count him as a good guy . That's a little bit more harsh than Goku , but at this point we kind of count him as a good guy . Now , his whole anti-hero arc ended after the atonement .

That's just my thing , though . But with Majin Buu he did not give any fucks . When he went back to the World Martial Arts Tournament to blast those people in the stands , just to prove a point to Goku , I was like I want you to fight me now . And Goku was like all right , vegeta , you wanna fight me ? All right , let's go , let's take this outside .

That's why Bakus go from my Hero Academia where every time , like Todoroki or that one villain or it's like Niggas that just fucking taking it easy on me . That's how me and my pride , my pride you did not take me seriously enough to use that form . I am mad at you .

It's Monday . It shows up and takes everything like it ain't nothing . And so everyone literally this question comes up , like I think Goku and Vegeta had asked this question Okay , why do you need our help ? You're so strong , what do you need us for ? That was a very straight up question onto that .

And then we understand that Supreme Kai is actually not a badass motherfucker .

I know it's non-candid , but that's the side of the point . It's like you think , oh , this one even stronger , like holy shit . But the way he played out is more like the Supreme Kai was just a walking plot device to get to the point up why Majin Buu should be imminent threat .

It was so obvious that so much more that could have came for him and he was just . He had this badass introduction and it was marked just weak right after that .

But it's like , when you think of characters like Videl , gohan to a degree , all the other Z-part of Iyam Chotian , chow Tzu Krillin to a degree , because you know he's still getting into the action , but not as much .

But still , though , like you have the androids , you have fucking Oob Running Around , and I'm like all of these different characters that you made friends with , even Majin Buu , who was supposed to be in the Tournament of Power but he overslept , so oh well , but I was like bro , like why are you making all these characters just to make them fire ?

Like characters in the ? end Like give them more urgency than that . That's all I'm saying .

Well , first two opening sequences . Buu was there for that , like he was , it was very clear he was going to be in the Tournament of Power . You know it was gonna be that King of the House from all of these other characters that Buu was not gonna be enough to take care of him . So it was supposed to be that .

I mean , there's a reason that he was actually written off and honestly it was a real bonus for him , but that's a discussion for another time . Right now we just kind of get our main introduction into Buu himself . So we're going through this shit . We get these little , these horrible ant fights . We just put it this way it was .

I hasn't made any questions about these fights .

Like Goku and Vegeta literally had asked why is it that they're even here and they're like these dudes are weak , why can't you tell me you can't handle them ? You made like this was like you had this whole show up , that Supreme kind of supposed to be this bad ass motherfucker .

Then they come across these all these fucking weak ass enemies , and then even Gohan's struggle , which you know . Definitely . The fact that Gohan was struggling and Vegeta had to have a whole conversation with him is like you're fucking up . He said this isn't just a simple little thing . People are relying on you , bro , like . If you fail , everyone dies .

You gotta pick your shit up and stop Like crying like a baby and stop expecting everyone to pick shit up for you . Do this shit yourself or get the fuck out of the way and let me do it , type of thing . And he's like but he had to have that real conversation with him . He's like nigga , just do what you gotta do or step the fuck to the side .

Let some grown folks do this shit . Sorry , I was watching Black Dynamite recently , me shut up . When grown folks are like , yeah , and I'm like , but yeah , it's like , it was just one of those moments like these fights are very fortunate , but the most memorable thing that you have at least I have is Vegeta having to tell Gohan to get in his fucking place .

Pretty much Other than that there's really no , there's nothing about these fights that was really memorable . Maybe Gohan versus D'Bora was kind of and I'll honestly Majin Buu versus D'Bora overshadowed that to me and that was obviously one sided . And so what did you have to say about Pui Pui ?

I thought it was cool , but aside from that , d'bora was almost nothing of a character other than yet he was the king of hell , but he wasn't all that memorable , to be honest Me . So it's just kind of a crime scene how it was going against all these different enemies .

They weren't even as strong to begin with , but I still remember Vegeta's fight with Pui Pui , where Pui Pui excuse me , this guy thing , this guy Pui Pui he was talking big game , talking about , oh yeah , where I come from , the gravity is 10 times that of Earth . And then Vegeta was like wait , hold on hold on 10 times Earth gravity .

It was one of those cases that you're like literally everyone just like fuck power levels . It was so horrible , so you got these characters .

But it's like the mere fact that at least we can remember some of the minions from the other TV show , I mean Dragon Ball , dragon Ball Z , the movies like remember them a little bit better than these villains here . It's almost like they were so nothing that you can only really remember Weep , wee and D'Avora , and that's about it .

They literally made it so accurate to the story . If you let them punch you , like your , your sprite character was still like look like getting hit , not back like they were taking damage , but if you actually looked at your health bar , you took zero damage . Every single time they hit you , you felt nothing .

And then , as soon as you either hit them or shot a Keyblast , they was dead . And that was it . I was like this . It was literally to that point like even playing this game , I was like , can I get on to a fight ? I'm having more , I would have more fun going around traversing through an area Like a maze and shit like that .

Then going through that shit , this is just okay . Boom , shoot a Keyblast . Read a whole bunch of text dialogue , text dialogue , text dialogue , text dialogue . Moving on to the next fight Keyblast , text dialogue , text dialogue , text dialogue , text dialogue . It's like this feels like a very bad Final Fantasy game right now .

Like there's so much , there's so much damn scenes , bro . Like it was just horrible . I was like what is this ? And I like how they did that , cause they made you feel this was just as pointless . Like you felt how go-to Vegeta was in this game . You felt just how pointless this shit was .

And then even in the Budokai , I think it was was it Budokai or no ? No , it was Tenkaiichi , cause it was the first time introduced a 3D scope , being able to like fly around and shit . They did the same thing with Tenkaiichi won .

When you go up against these characters , the fact that they made these characters , but then the fact that they were also so damn weak that I have forgot who they were Like I looked at Pete Pui Pui and I was like , oh , I remember this nigga Dude . There's this guy beat .

And then they had the other guy I still can't remember his name and I saw this character and I'm like , who is this ? Like when you make a cane character and you say that this is all from the Ken series and from the movies , I was like , is there a movie I'm not thinking about . I literally looked up the character .

If I have to look up a character that's in a game from a series that I love , that is horrible . Looked up and I was like , oh , that's the motherfucking Abajida kid , that was worthless , why ? Here's the thing . Why do you remember Saitama better than you remember ?

And then , after getting through this whole annoyance , then we finally get this final thing of , like Vegeta , you know , turning Majin . And then we finally get that nice , that super good battle scene between Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Majin Vegeta . You get a chance to see them fight each other .

And then we get to see the absolute destruction that Gohan had against D'Bora . God , I'm like D'Bora was wiping the floor with his ass , like straight up . He said he was like oh , my spit turns you to stone , that's when it's bad . And we sitting here just dodging spit , A motherfucker just spit at you like you're gonna live with , just sit .

This dude did nothing , but just stood there and just went Pichui Pichui , pichui , pichui , pichui , and Gohan was like oh , oh , oh , oh , oh , oh , I got a dash . I got a dash . I'm like nigga , why are you out of breath ? This is horrible . It was so horrible . I'm just sitting here with nothing , you like , bro , what the hell ?

And then , okay , we about to reach this . I'm reaching my stop and point . I realize I'm running out of time here , but obviously there's a whole bunch of stuff to crack on in the boo saga , so we got more depth to talk about .

But then we finally get after the whole battle sequence , finally get Maju Boo finally awakens from the shell and then one shots everybody .

So , with that being said , I said let's just go on to break and we'll just pick this up at another time .

So you know I already got a couple mythology things that's been shown and definitely looking forward to kind of sharing and talking some more content there . Bro , bring it on peoples .

I decided that with the first portion that we try to do on the whole Buu Saga , that's gonna be the Babidi Saga and this one is now the Majin Buu Saga . So we're now getting to Majin Buu . It has finally arisen kind of like a reader repulsive from the first Power Rangers .

It's like , ah , after 10,000 years , I'm finally free , it's time to conquer Earth , kind of like that . But essentially it's Badida sacrificing himself . Goatink shows up at Super San 3 . Well , you know , there's also Super San 3 , goku and blah , blah , blah . Well , that's for a new . Let's go in and zone in on it .

Kokugatsu , how do you feel about Fat Buu per se ?

Yeah , so I would say I liked him on this one , but then kind of afterwards it was a little different . I don't know .

bit . It's like if you're going to do all this world building and have all these different characters and Goku being Goku , trying to spare them and maybe make them some kind of ally at some point , it's like you've got all these different characters but the more characters that you include , the more I feel like they're just going to be neglected down the road .

It's like , ok , the granola , the survivor art that just concluded like what One , two , maybe three months ago somewhere in the area , and we're kind of speculating is granola going to be one of those guys that's going to be neglected or is he going to have some sort of recurring role Because you know he's strong ? It's just that .

Think about it like this we kind of had this thing with Hit and we haven't even heard of him in a while . I'm almost feeling the same way about Jiren . So it's like so many different characters . That's likeable to the fandom and we feel like , yeah , they're not going to get eaten damn near any spotlight .

Like see the original cast , you know , like Krillin , tien , yamcha , them . It's like it's bad enough that they're already , you know , pretty much on the sidelines for the most part . But all these other characters that are like really strong , and you know , that's just my thing With Mod and Boots .

It's like you would think you have somewhere involvement in Dragon Ball Super , but it's like are you just chilling at the house , sleeping or eating ? Like what were you doing the whole time ? I don't know Everything , everything .

So I don't know , I don't know , but as far as this series , fat Boo was very interesting . I was very curious about what was going to happen , considering the fact that , like he didn't necessarily have a desk mate , so first it was questionable how things were going to go . Is this going to be one of those go-kos who's going to easily destroy him and stuff ?

Because go-kos went . Super Saiyan 3 literally turned him into a punching bag , but not even one of those regular punching bags , you know , like the ones with rubber bands and shit it's like boom boom , boom .

You remember that right , he was holding the bag at the tentacle and they were just punching him and they just had that reused frame , the same like seven frames Pew , pew , pew , pew , pew , pew pew . So it kind of like speculated , like dang go-kos going to destroy this thing , and then plot earner comes in .

But , dude , I'm sitting here like you , sitting here like , ok , go-kos going to just wipe the floor with his ass , that's how it's going to happen , this is it . And then plot armor kicks in , go-kos like , oh man , I'm running out of time . I got to go Deuces and they just didn't disappear . And then Bobbie and the monster dude like what the fuck Don't ?

Oh man , he's like how dare you come and wipe my ass and then leave . I want to smoke . I want to smoke Like it was insane . It was just it was insane , but bruh , but yeah , I mean , as far as overall , that's kind of the best I have for it .

Really , we're just going to go ahead and break down into it , like this is where we're about to just break down to Fat Booz rampage . And this was probably I'm not even going to say probably this was a very , very interesting like story arc , I would say .

Because while we were sitting here expecting , oh , this is just going to be a villain that's going to rampage . I felt like this was going to be a repeat of Cell . Remember , cell was just going to Once he became like imperfect , not imper , it's like second form Cell .

I felt like it was going to be a repeat of that Second form Cell just started destroying places , destroying places , destroying places , trying to find 18 . And then Majin Boo kills Babity and then he just starts rampaging and just destroying it .

So he's like I'm going to destroy this place and destroying this place and destroying this place , and you're just like , ok , this is going to be just a whole repeat of the Cell saga . Is what I'm understanding . And then , of course , gotenks shows up , finally , and that was like extremely hilarious in his own , in his own aspect .

I know we're going to talk about Gotenks , but just really quick . Gotenks shows up , majin Boo wipes the floor with his ass and then doesn't kill him , just leaves him . Well , not one of you so much leaves him . He wanted to get saved . Goku wanted to save his ass . Well , their ass is per se .

Now , at this point , when you think about fusions , you use the pronouns they , them . That's just kind of how it works , I'm assuming , I don't know . Well , then we kind of , then we get . Then we get Gotenks that night . Go to get Majin Boo actually calming down for a moment , like he stops destroying shit . He literally calms down .

He's like , ok , I can go around and just do all this shit , and then we get actual story development for Majin Boo . This is no longer just an all evil blue . We finally get to understand a little bit more where Supreme Kai talks about how that this creature is what happened when he absorbed the Grand Supreme Kai and when he absorbs Grand Supreme Kai .

That's why the Supreme Kai that we know became Supreme Kai . He was like I wasn't even supposed to be Supreme Kai , I just had to take the mantle because the Grand Supreme Kai was absorbed , which is a whole different plot confusion , plot , whole confusion . That comes into play when Beerus is introduced , but whatever .

And the fact of the matter is like he didn't even like you're telling me that it's not like . Oh , he became Supreme Kai based on his merit . He became Supreme Kai by default , exactly . Yeah , that's like that's what .

to get to . You know , see how the Grand Supreme Kai , his great goodness , winds up changing this great evil . Because it's literally the fact that what was ? It's literally the fact that his great goodness would show up in random times , like Fat Boo , would have moments like with the blind kid .

He goes up , he stops in this blind kid sees his blind kid like walking on the road by himself . He goes down and the blind kid is just like , oh , hey , you know , just talks to him and stuff . And he's like , oh , cool , and da , da , da , da , da , da . And he's like you're not scared of me .

And he's like , no , he said you don't see me , I don't see creepy to you . And he's like I'm sorry , I can't really see , I'm blind , so no , and then Majin Boo sits here and he's like , okay , I'm going to give you back your vision and just Jesus Christ's ass , and I might just the spit and some mud and rub it up and rub it in his eyes and stuff .

Is this straight up , jesus been the name of Jesus Christ and Majin Boo , and gives him back his vision . And then , all of a sudden , the little boy is like I can see . I've never been able to see before . I can see all the colors , everything is beautiful . You , you gave me back my vision . He's like you're not scared of me .

He said why would I be scared of you when you gave me my vision ? I love you . And then , all of a sudden , he's like what is this ? What is this feeling ?

That's all that he enjoys , that's all he wants . But because the grand supreme Kai is supposedly this ultimate goodness , which again is a whole different plot armor device that not even plot armor but plot whole device that really comes into play in fucking dragon ball super .

I'm just saying this is really weird , because it makes it seem as if he's supposed to be the total opposite of beers , and beers being a guy of destruction is supposed to be just the ultimate destruction and evil . And you find out , no , he's not necessarily a bad guy , it's just his job .

Like he literally would go to planets and not destroy them and then he would get in trouble for it . I'm like maybe he was a guy .

But again , that's his story for a whole another time . So again more plot holes , but whatever .

It was just all of it is nothing but sheer plot holes . And I think it's because of all these damn plot holes is why they got rid of Boo . But again , that's a story for a different time .

And you just like bro , like it's almost like you can kind of empathize with how , okay , the fans want more , but I fuck like just spitball , like grow shit together and making to apply like okay , bad guy , imminent minions trying to resurrect them or try to help him get his plans fulfilled .

The fighters go , stop them , the fighters fuck up and then he gets bigger and better and they post got some kind of ass pool sometimes like half the times and they win . Lather , rent , repeat .

But like , let's be honest , it's half the time to either Some imminent threat showing up to the blow up the planet , what's the goddamn tournament ?

You know what I'm gonna try , you know , try to like calm down a little bit . So then he's sitting here like this dude . He tries to figure some things out , some people or people get scared of him , and then he tries not to turn them into candy but then Kind of has his mom's this like a second .

But then he winds up saying , hmm , boo wants a house , and this is the most fucked up thing . As a kid I knew it was weird , but it was mostly like now , as an adult thinking about it , this is the absolutely most fucked up thing you could ever imagine .

Boo literally just says , hmm , I want a house , so I need some play , though I need some clay so I can build a house .

So he literally , staying in the fucking , like near this , near this village the name village near this town , lifts everybody up and then , instead of turning them all to candy and eating them , which , again , if Lisa food , you see this the thing , if you turn the candy you eat in this candy , it fucking sucks . It's probably horrible .

You're probably feeling all of that because we've learned with the G to later on , with the G to that , who still maintain he still had his consciousness , and not just had his consciousness , he had so much power that he could still move around and shit too . Which means that if you turn in the candy , you still feel all of that shit .

So being eaten , exactly so being eaten it will hurt , but eventually , guess what , you die . You know that's it . He turns them into clay . He turns them into clay and then In moles , a house out of them , out of these clay humans pause .

But technically those people should be back alive again , should be . So it's a hit or miss there Is . I say is a hit or miss because we truly don't know if they went back to their normal original bodies or If they went back to being the clay house again either way . That's a really fucked up way to live now .

It's like a whole town of people , but they're in the wall . It's the people in the walls , the people under the stairs is that type of shit , but they are actually the walls .

I was like , hey , so what you do to get the house to scream like that ? It's like , oh , my house is made of people and I'm like , are you joking ? No , I'm not joking , like I I made some , mr Clay , and I built this house with the people that I killed a while ago and , yeah , the dragon did Resurrect them .

But the funny thing is , because plot holes , they didn't specify if those people is gonna be asked people again or they're just alive in the walls , almost like they're Petrified , like you know , like statues , like even if you're petrified , you're still alive in there , I think , or I don't know . I don't know , it's different depending , I don't know .

Imagine how do you sleep at night in my corpse house . How do you sleep at night ? They ventilate the house . They keep it the right temperature . These corpses all around keep my house at the perfect temperature .

Okay , just , can we just move on from it please ? Like , yeah , it's kind of creepy , but I'm kind of comfortable living in this house , so let's just try to . Okay , can we call this with it please ?

So first off , her kill is shown up , because you know he's supposed to be the savior of the world and shit . He's like you got to do it , you got to beat him . And then like , okay , he shows up and he was a befriending boo , because boo likes him for all his creepy shit . Yeah , but he can just give him stuff .

And then , at first , because he just kept giving them stuff , he's like you know what do ? Like shoot , I'm not gonna kill you . Oh , he's like oh , thank god . Oh , you see , I can be your buddy , I can be your friend , I Try as giving him gifts that explode . And then boo's like hey , it go , boom . Was it supposed to do that ?

You're like yeah , that's a new type of toy , oh , my god . So now puppy gets introduced and oh , you know you know , buddy , they named the puppy be yeah so . So B shows up . Hercules and Majin Boo and B have the weirdest fucking perfect family type shit . Hercules the housewife cook food and Sitting on TV .

We're sitting on the couch watching TV and shit You're like , and then these out playing and then , unfortunately , some hunters got them .

Be back doing this shit again , however , Because again at this moment , the grand supreme kies .

But this thing she just really funny to me . I was like what the hell ? He's just getting mad .

He's just like I'm just gonna come over these random names . That's where we're at . But um , literally , you just he can't stop steaming and then the steam Mars up taking form and we're introduced into evil boo or as in the American American dub version is bad boo . This is funny . He was like what the fuck ? Majin Boo's ?

So it's like the fat with the smoke and his appearance and the baggy clothes I mean not a baggy clothes but more like the baggy pants . But he has , like this best on for half the part , but you know he doesn't wear the best and as kid boo . But you just kind of tell that Majin Boo is just an evil genie .

I mean Genie back in like he's a genie of destruction .

And then , like you said , the outfits , of course , is into it , and the strange color , because that's one of the biggest things about gems is that gems don't have the same color , don't have the same skin tone or texture of skin that we do as human beings . So that itself is also something to there , and he's made up of nothing but pure magic .

Like he's pure magic , like literally . This is one of the funniest that you know . I'm gonna be honest , this is an argument . I don't care what anyone says about this . Superman would have some serious trouble fighting Majin Boo . Superman is weak against magic . Majin Boo is pure magic .

Plus , also based off the story of song we call originally . So yeah , no , this magic , everything like they're not magic . Magic's the main thing there . You believe in magic , I'm sorry , you know . No , you're good , it's the truth . I do believe in magic . I hope you do as well . I'm finishing , some president , I have to believe in magic .

I'm just saying , but anyway , um , still going back , for , like , we wound up having me on um , like finally get evil boo versus Majin Boo , and this is literally evil . Was just wiping the floor With my job , like it ain't nothing , and then my boo is like I got a ace up my sleeve , turn into candy , oh no , like turn the chocolate .

And then literally this the funniest shit you would ever expect , like most cartoonish shit ever . Evil boo just literally takes a deep breath and it just blows . It just blows the beam back , blow your beam back on you . Like what ? It just blows this shit right back at him and Majin Boo's sitting here like what the fuck ? You know what ?

What Grim avengers of Billy and Mandy . Bro , that's literally what it was room

. This is Billy and Mandy . Billy , you gotta stop eating yourself . I know I gotta stop eating myself . It hurts so much but I taste so good .

So now the Jesus atonement , this one , this one was interesting to me in that aspect that I Hold on . I'm gonna say this simply I'm a legit . Now what's you talking ? Then I'm say what I had say right after , like it is simply simplest thing into it .

It is the most fucked up , touching moments that Vegeta has probably ever had in the whole series , and I mean that even more so . Then Vegeta going oil blue in the tournament of power in in love , dragon Ball Super , that that's the same . I'm gonna see it say that simply and I'll go into it in a moment . But you go ahead .

That that's how I feel totally about it . How do you feel ?

I can give Toriyama some flat for Some of these story elements , you know like , yeah , even with plow holds is there just some moments where it just kind of makes you think you know what , toriyama , I forgive you , because it's moments like this that I kind of live for , because you see that Vegeta tries to sacrifice himself in order to defeat Majin Buu and he

does the Most selfless move ever , but , you know , trying to make sure that Trunks and Goten and all the others were not in the way for when he about to sacrifice himself , and he went as far as even knocking out Trunks and Goten just to be like , okay , now that they're knocked out , I can go ahead and go over to Majin Buu and just , you know , do my

thing . And you just stop and think this is the moment where Vegeta officially slides from Potential threat in disguise to a trustworthy anti-hero , because it's like he realized what he's done . He Acknowledges that he has something worth on dying for Bulma , trunks and hell , he even Recognized Goku .

You know , I'm even doing this for you , kakarai , so it's almost like you know , when I was telling you about the fall arc and the previous portion , how some folks kind of relapsing through their old evil ways and this pretty much kicks off his redemption art where , now that he had that fall art and took accountability for his past misdeeds , from that point on

then he'll be building up the world of being so and that will at least like a little bit more . So I feel like this was a very powerful and bittersweet moment in Dragon Ball Z history . It's like it's almost like Vegeta the villain officially died at that moment and Vegeta the anti-hero Was born as soon as Vegeta came back later on in the boo saga .

That's just my feelings on it right now .

Even going into this , I'm gonna touch base a little bit into super a little bit as well . I was actually just watching the video not long ago Um , actually was earlier , it was earlier today .

Someone took a snippet Um , it was English dub snippet , but it was a snippet from Vegeta and Goku were talking to Cabba from universe 6 and , you know , vegeta asked me , said from what planet does your race go to ? You say what are you talking about ?

We're from the planet , um , salada just still find it funny that they're from planet salad , but you just saying you went from you , could you destroy planet salad ? And then went to planet Vegeta vegetable . So you went from salad to vegetable . It's the same shit for whatever anyway .

So , so , um , so , vegetable and carrot was talking to cabbage about what planet they were coming from . Sorry , I had to say it . We , as a Goku Vegeta was talking to Cabba About what planet he was from , and Vegeta wasn't mentioned . He said , really , you said that planet is still , is still on existence in your universe . It's interesting .

And then Cabba , or tostum , he's like you say , yeah , what do you mean ? He said what happened to yours ? He said , well , the planet that we , the planet that we originally came from , was destroyed in the civil war . So with that , after that civil war , the survivors conquered another planet and we just called a NASA planet , we call planet Vegeta .

And then , of course , in Cabba's , like what , you conquered another planet , like you took it from another race that was already there . And Jesus , like , of course , he said what constant ? Yeah , yeah , he's like , of course he said that should be not there , shouldn't be too unfamiliar to you guys . Your warriors , aren't you ?

It's like , of course , for warriors , but we're warriors that are hired to protect , you know , to protect justice , not create injustice on our own .

And as one of those things that you understand how big of a change it is , it's a , it's a big callback against how big of a change the Saiyan race is in In universe seven , the universe that we're aware of , in the fact that they are straight-up conquerors , that their warriors there .

Literally , in our honesty , the Saiyan race is based off of Genghis Khan , off of the Huns .

The Huns specifically had conquered places and they would never settle for too long , like they had a place that they were settled , but then they would Continuously conquer other places because just because they could , because it was to prove how strong they were , and Like this that you can see that being based into the Saiyan race on how that actually is and you

see how Toriyama was able To use that from his , that from history , to be able to really kind of talk about it . Like you know , everyone had . Most conquerors have this ideal that they want to unify . There's some form of unification , regardless of anything . But Genghis Khan and the Huns was very different .

They did not truly believe in a unified Rule or anything like that , like even more . So you get , as much as we would dislike Frieza for how he is , frieza still had the ideal of unification . He would rule everything under him . As far as a unified unit , everyone would serve him , and that was still becoming the idea of how it would go .

But the Saiyans didn't do that , they just did it just because they were strong . I'm gonna go and demolish this planet because I want to do . I want this planet . No , do I care what happens to this planet ? No , I Don't care . We're just proving how strong we are to everyone who cares . And that's how it was with the Huns .

The Huns just decimated , they would leave villages in destruction . They wouldn't conquer places To rule them , they would conquer them just because they could . And that's how the Saiyans were in universe 7 and that's how the Jida was .

He was brought up in an understanding you have to prove your strength and which is also one of the biggest things and that we're also going to talk about here too , about the because this , we get a chance to dive back into the fight between Goku and the Jida During the bullsack as well , because this was a very , very important fight for Vegeta , because it was

always his belief that it was an elite Saiyan and you and Goku being an underclass , being a C-class warrior , and having this moment of understanding that this , this undergrad warrior , is able to beat me in elite , not just once , but multiple times .

And even more so , the disappointment in that fight when Vegeta understood that Goku was holding back the entire time and that broke him , that moment of like this was supposed to be my chance to really Show how I am , how strong I am . Because that was important to him , because he is a Saiyan , that is his Saiyan pride .

I have to prove how strong I am and that was something he felt like he was losing because he was getting too comfortable . He even said that to Goku . He said I've gotten too comfortable here on this planet . I'm going to comfortable having a woman having children . He said this it's not , it's not , it's too much . He said there's not right here .

are right .

I am a Saiyan , I am a true warrior and you will fight me today because that is what we do . And that was also the craziest thing , because this would be something I would love to kind of dive further into , especially considering the fact that Vegeta talked about talked about it already in Dragon Ball Super , in the recap .

I just in the little video I had told you about where the Civil War , what caused the Civil War in the Saiyans ? Because obviously the people who won were who the Saiyans are now . Does that mean that there were other Saiyans who were against the whole , just being conquerors or just being like warriors that just go out and fighting just because ?

And Was that similar to what happened in universe 6 ? But was there maybe like a Civil War in universe 6 , but the good side one ? And that's why universe 6 is the way it , the way those Saiyans are , and why the Saiyans in universe 7 are completely different . So it's like what if both sides were the same coin ?

But this universe is what will happen if these say is one , and this universe is what will happen if these say is one . How big of a difference would that have become ?

Was there like a different timeline and at that timeline where the universe but was just like a universe 6 , where , if the good side one it may , decided to be warriors of justice instead of just warriors of Like I don't know how to just what word I would put into place of it , but warriors of just fighting or whatever the being that .

That major difference in this case , but it wasn't being a question that you really kind of just you know , wonder about , like how would it , how different would all of this have been ? Because that's definitely how it was for universe 6 , with cabba and kale and a caliph .

So it's very different in all those different things for each of them and how maybe just one change , like you said , it can make it such a big difference into that like no multi-verse theories , different universe , not just different timeline , like multi timeline theory , multi universe theory .

So it's based on different things into that , but it would have been great to really kind of dive into was that . You know , possibly was this like Happening between Vegeta and Goku , similar to like the silver war ? Was , at this point , of the elite class feeling like they have to dominate Over the lower class ?

Was it the fact of understanding that the lower class has potential to grow and , even though they started off technically weaker , with proper training and proper you know , focus , could they actually have surpassed the elites ? And the elites were frustrated that was gonna happen , decided to just end all of the lower class . Was that the civil war ?

Like we don't know what the civil war for the Saiyans were , and so . But then you kind of have this moment Still with Vegeta that he's so Angry , he's so frustrated in the fact that Goku and he still would keep saying that now also keep my wall also say this is super important as well , too .

After this fight between Goku and Vegeta , vegeta no longer refers to him as a low-class warrior anymore . He completely stopped doing that . Well , at least I'm not gonna say completely stop . He mentioned it again , beers , because he was like you're a low class , you didn't know it's . In plus , you were off-planet . He's like you would never know anyway .

This is something my father told me about this is a guy my father told me about you , but um other than that he never really he doesn't like call Goku a low-class warrior . After this fight , this fight became that determining fight between them . This was you don't get closure , but you get , I guess , a reconcile , but we're gonna reconcile .

At this point , I just I need this and you're gonna give it to me , type of thing . And it was just one of those cases that Goku understood . He was like I Got you this , this , this fight has to happen . Yes , there's other shit that's going on . Yes , there's a demon king running around that we got a fight and shit , but we'll leave that to go on .

You and I , we need to settle this shit right now . We need to do this shit , and so we finally get this .

We get this fight between this elite Well-trained warrior to a low-class warrior who has trained very differently , built his own mindset , and we see this fight working out between them and the G to going all out , because he's like I don't know how much time you got left here . I need to do this again .

They need to do this before you go again Like this is not gonna happen . We're gonna do this right now . And so you have this moment where you're finally doing this and then Vegeta realizes at this moment , you know , majin Buu is awakened and he's like I have to put this fight on hold again .

I can hate this shit , but then , even understanding at that moment , he , he still made that decision . He made the decision to say this threat has now gotten to a point that we have to stop . There was a threat before . Keep in mind that there was a threat before .

The border was still a threat per se and go home obviously was significantly holding himself back because he just wasn't trusting himself . They put his own limiter on himself . But then the board was sitting here like turning motherfuckers of stone shit , like he took out all the backup plans , like to yen Krillin option Backup plans is gone at this point .

So what do we have like ? What do we have left ? So he understands he has to put this fight on hold .

And then he goes up and he understands that this threat is Significantly more powerful than he thought it was going to be and he winds up having to make a split decision because he's like fuck it , you know , go , who's gonna go back to the afterlife , maybe I'll be able to fight him again in the afterlife ?

Maybe not , but at this point what's more important to me is that I need To protect my family . My family is more important than my pride before , when , when the margin power was really taking over Vegeta . We understand Vegeta really just gets a chance at starting . This says you don't understand what it said . I was never under your control .

I Let you and view this to me so I could bring forth my rage . But I always have control . I could always do whatever the fuck I wanted to do . I just wanted to do this . And so it's like one of those moments of a kid having a tantrum . Sometimes you got to let him tantrum it out , tired themselves out .

Once they finally finished , then you can go and get them afterwards , and so that's what Vegeta did . He's like let me get my rage and get my tantrum out . We got his tantrum out and then there we go . I'm finally calm down , I've gotten out enough energy . I I've realized that this situation is bad . He has his little conversation with trunks .

He's like that actually just the most difficult thing to say I love you . But he was like I love you , didn't even tell me to says this he thinks this in his mind after he knocks more conscious , which is really bullshit , but whatever . So he winds up just knocking him out . Moscow 10 out . He's like take them away , I need to do this .

And so he literally just allowed , like embodies , all of his energy , everything he has left , into one Kamikaze blast . Blast so powerful that it completely Shreds up module boots of pieces . And you're like that . As a Vegeta fan , I was like this right here Is got to be his final win . We got a win , something , we got something .

And then Toriyama says , fuck that , virginia gets no win today and all the pieces come back together . Inform Majin Buu again , I'm just brushing that shit off like whoo . Now you know I was a pretty powerful attack , but you know Well , he's gone . Shit , fuck y'all , some I'm gonna play with .

Now he's just like you have all this build up , you're expecting some type of win , and then no , you're denied another win , denied a win again . So yeah , it was a lot . It hurt my feelings . Pretty sure you can understand that I'm letting that soak in for a moment .

Second of all , I thought was equally impactful that after Vegeta knocks out Trunks and go to him and have Piccolo carry them off he had this conversation with Piccolo saying that he did he do tell Trunks that he's proud of him , hugs his son , knocks him out Not to him and go to now , yes , but with Piccolo . He warns Vegeta that he's going to die .

And Vegeta , as Piccolo , am I going to see Goku in the other world ? And Piccolo says that because of Goku's heroism and selfless nature , he's was allowed to keep his body in travel to King Kai's planet .

However , vegeta , when he dies , he would not receive the same reward as Goku and he lived his life for his own selfish gains , so he's going straight to hell when he dies . And Vegeta was like , oh well , I don't care , just take the boys and leave . And he did what he had to do . I thought that was like very impactful , like you know .

It just kind of just that's why I was saying earlier how Vegeta's at home it was pretty much Vegeta's arc as a selfish villain is over because he not realize that now that he has something worth dying for , he won't get the same reward as Goku because of the past that he lived , so that you make you thinking that's kind of unfair .

But to be fair , yeah , like Vegeta has always been that way up until that moment . But when he was given a second chance , then of course it was different .

So I want to say it's one of those moments where if you're truly repentant on the mistakes that you made in your past , then I want to say that some folks won't forgive you and some folks might forgive you over time . It's like it's going to be kind of hard to trust you after a while .

Like it's going to be like kind of temporary to where it's like , ok , I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt that you're trying to change your life around , but I'm going to stay on my guard with you until I'm convinced that you truly change your life around . It's kind of that sort of thing .

So that's what I feel about Vegeta , to where , honestly , like I would tell people I didn't truly care for Vegeta all that much up until Vegeta's atonement , because at least now he's taken accountability for his past and decided to be selfless for excuse me , selfless for a change and sacrifice himself to kill Majin Buu for the sake of his family .

I was digging that . I was like , yes , this is character development for me , this is the kind of character development that I like . And after that point I keep hearing some of the shit that Vegeta says and not going on , I had some shit he says it's just powerful .

Like remember when he was telling Bobbidi that , oh , you don't really control me , and he was like you may have taken over my body and mind , but the one thing a saying always keeps is pride , and we think about it . It's like damn , like that's kind of motivating .

And , of course , we still got an opportunity to see that too . Even the super , where you know , wiz shows up and he's like hey , vegeta , we need you to show up for this tournament . And the dude is like I'm not going . It's like why I promise my wife that I'd be here for the birth of the baby . The baby's not here .

I don't know how long we're going to be going on . I don't know if I might die . I promised that I would be here for the birth of the baby and the baby is due to come , so I got to be here . And is that moment again is like this is major developments .

But with Vegeta he's more likeable because the way he's there for Trunks and Bola , like hell , like Trunks turned out to be a totally different kid , like I mean , we don't really know what he was like as kid Trunks and those alternate timelines , but you kind of tell that because Vegeta was there for kid Trunks and the boo saga , it's like it's a totally

different outcome because , as far as I can remember , trunks future Trunks never had a relationship with his father . So it's totally different .

So it's like because Vegeta has been there for him he was trained with Trunks but also taken to the park and ice cream , all the other shit and it's like it's like a totally different outcome for Trunks , which is very good , and it kind of goes to show that not only was Vegeta there for a kid Trunks but he definitely want to be there for Bola too .

So it's like a polar opposite of how Goku treats his family versus how Vegeta treats his family . Goku , he loves his family , but Vegeta loves his family and prides himself on his family .

That's all I got to say on that . Oh no , you did it .

I would say , even if you gave it to me , you know , you know you're going to be like , oh man , he's in , vegeta died . You know they hold a funeral , and then , at that moment , they're like no , no , there's no way .

And then , like you know , boo comes back , but he , like he pieces himself back together again , but it took a minute , because that impact was so powerful , so strong and shit . And you're like damn , now we got to even the biggest impact and then continue to arc that way .

That had been cool , but it's just the fact that , as soon as he , vegeta , does the explosion , not even like , not even a couple minutes later , bro , everyone was like , no , he's still alive . And I'm like he's keeping the whole thing , yeah , like you give us some moments to kind of like settle in , like people actually thought that Vegeta did it .

You know , he got that W front , he , you know he's saying everyone , everyone at least , like feels that even for a moment . But like for something , yeah , you made it worthless . And I'm like , why no , you at least want to have that moment that you like man , he sacrificed yourself to kill you .

Oh , we're going to make sure that he still gets that win or something . You know like we're going to avenge him and shit like that . But no , at that moment it was like , oh , even Vegeta sacrificed it , nothing , we have to come up with another plan . I'm like what the fuck ? I just rocked this major character like it ain't nothing . What the hell .

I'm like , oh so you're assuming that we're just a bunch of dummies , that we're just going to keep absorbing your content and not , like , say anything negative towards it .

I'm like , no , like , see , that's why you have people that are standing out from the crowd having their own commentary , whether it hurts anyone's feelings or not , and it's like it's simply saying , like I kind of respect it , because it's like saying they refuse to bow to the system and it's like not to be a total anarchist to it .

But I kind of understand , because it's kind of insulting to say like , oh well , you should just shut up and enjoy it . It's like , but if I watch everything or play any video game or whatever , and just be like , oh well , if you don't enjoy it , just don't play it , Like maybe it's just not for you , and I kind of get that .

But it's almost like saying there's no real gauge on whether it's good or bad . That's the problem . It's almost like they want to hear the people say that it's good all damn time , but then again the people that's praising it .

It just feels like an afterthought compared to the people that show negative criticism towards it , and those negative criticism stick a lot better than the positive , and that's why they want the people who are giving negative criticism or at least constructive criticism within reason oh , they're the ones that need to shut the fuck up .

it keep praising it and the people who keep criticizing it shuts up , then there's no real effort being put in . Like seeing some of the shit that's being put out now , it's almost like saying they're barely even trying and yet we're expected to like it . That's the insulting part , that's the infuriating part .

That's why I feel like , with these reviews going forward , if you don't like what I have to say on the matter , I'm sorry in advance . But I'm not sorry for what I said . But then again , I have to also keep hold myself accountable for what I say . Like if I'm going to say anything , it better be a hill worth dying on . I understand that .

But all I'm saying is it's like if I didn't like the shit , I will just go out and say I just didn't like the shit . I'm not going to fucking lie to you , just to like appease your feelings . You know what I mean . It's like you can't just say that oh , you can only see .

That's what I was trying to say , that the old saying if you don't have anything nice to say , don't say anything at all .

But back in the day that was kind of fair , but nowadays it's more like if you don't have anything nice to say , don't say anything at all , or else I think there's more sort of factors , not even so much if you don't have anything nice to say .

These things like like I said earlier , like if you realize the error in your mistake and you don't have any , you're going to make a mistake and you try to repent from old thoughts and old behaviors and okay , I'll give you the benefit of doubt that you're at least trying .

But I'm going to be on to you until you show me some consistency on this change behavior of yours . But yeah , it just be like that sometimes , where some people just be so sensitive and unforgiving it's almost like you can't really do shit without anybody trying to ruin your reputation .

Or where some mistakes you made , it just it's almost like he without the first , he without saying , cast the first stone , and that's a lot of people throwing stones like their shit never stinks . I mean , that's all I really say on this matter .

I pretty much covered all the major talking points and the margin boo saga . But next portion of the whole boo saga , it will be the fusion saga to where we're going to be talking about this evil boo that finally showed up , the battle in another dimension , the return of Gohan trying to train up with the Z sword , and all that shit .

Fusion with go chinks , because we were going to do that in this bar , but excuse me , but we'll just say that for the next portion . And of course , we have that whole journey inside boots . You know that part where Goku and Vegeta gets absorbed . Well , you know Vegeta , blah , blah , blah .

But do you have to be anything to add on before we close this one out ?

We do have this quarter course , but you know what , after doing some thinking , I decided to push forward with the whole Twitter and Patreon .

So sometime this month , I'm going to try to get things set up to where we just go ahead and get the ball rolling , because I wanted to wait until 2023 , just to be a little bit more ceremonious and have more preparation .

But then again , after we discovered some things and whatnot I realize you know what we can actually push the plans a little bit sooner , but it'll be more like we're under construction until we can really get the ball rolling . So by 2023 , we'll be really loud about it , but I think we should go ahead and try to at least get things prepared for next year .

But , yes , do check out Discord , because we do have watch parties , monthly raffles , we're getting loot boxes set up , art contests , tournaments and all other sorts of things that we're trying to incorporate . But until the next episode and the next development in the zone , you stay nerdy , my friends , because great things are coming . We are zoning out .

Hello , ladies and gentlemen , it's Jet Blackestream and we are back out again with another episode of Zone Podcast . Today with me , we got the fancy club , president Cook . We got to see how you're doing today , sir .

As you know , of course , we lost Hagrid from the Harry Potter franchise and just passed away recently , and then also just recently found out that the creator well , I found out yesterday night that the creator of Yu-Gi-Oh Kazuki Takahashi he died being a hero . He saved a little boy from drowning . Unfortunately , he wound up drowning in the little boy's place .

So it's a pretty harsh weekend right now , man .

It's perfectly fine Watching the anime and all the other shit , but I kind of dipped out of that 5D because then it just got kind of dumb to me . I mean pendulum , something , something . What the fuck is going on with this goddamn game ? I mean they say magic together is complicated .

I was like , nah , yu-gi-oh looking a little bit more like super technical , like at least with Magic Gathering it's like yeah , there's a lot of terminology , but other than that , once you get to whoa , see , turns you , it's kind of straightforward . Like there's like no real new game mechanics except for the cards itself . But yeah , you know what ?

Another topic for another day . I'm planning on doing a Magic Gathering review on that anyways . But oh , yeah , I thought Yu-Gi-Oh Extreme Review , but that's for later .

Today we're continuing the Dragon Ball Z Extreme Review with the Fusion Saga , where we're talking about Super Boo going up against the likes of Vegeta , goat Tinks and Ultron and Gohan and , without further ado , go ahead and zone out , cook Yasu , what you got on the Super Boo arc .

As soon as he shows up , the first thing he does is jump down his niggas throat Even exaggeration , there's no way to explain that . There's no way to explain that Like literally . Even if you look it up a Wikipedia when they explain this episode , this Super Boo is awakened .

Literally the first thing he does is he finds this farmer and he immediately jumps into the dude's mouth , into his body , literally jumps down his throat and then explodes . He explodes all inside . I was just like Kirito . You know what the hell he was doing when this shit happened . He was like this is going to be a sad note .

This is going to detail about how gruesome this is . No , bro .

And then , after doing that , went and beat Hellas ass , who is a goddess of death . Just saying that one , just no , there's a whole other rage for that , but anyway , but God , I'm like , but yeah , some of the superfoods is out here jumping down people's throats , literally . He didn't do it once .

He still did it like several times , though Running through , rampaging through places , and then motherfucking his board , he's like , and then he's just like all right time to head to the lookout . And when the lookout piccolo curling T and all of them is like holy shit , like what's wrong . He's heading here and by .

As soon as they said that he already showed up , he was like hey . So back when I was a fat motherfucker , that man , goku , promised me that somebody was going to give me some smoke . He said somebody was going to show up and whoop my ass . When , instead of waiting for y'all to show up to me , I decided to show up to you .

Who is this motherfucker that's supposed to give me my smoke ? I'm ready for it . I am here , no .

You're like wait a minute , hold on a second , because it's not a way you say bro , I'm right here , I'm not going to go nowhere . Pull up to me . That's how it was for sale . Boo is like you know what ? It's cool . Yeah , I'm pulling up to you .

What's happening so literally Buu shows up and is just like ready to decimate everybody . He's like so who is it ? Is it you ? No , you too weak . Is it you ? No , you too weak . You seem to be the strongest person I'm feeling right now , but you definitely still too weak . Who's supposed to bring in my smoke ?

And some piccolo is like yo , we got the person , but the person is still like sleeping at the moment . Then wake his ass up . I don't care . Like . I'm here , bruh , I'm not going to take five or come back later . I'm already here . Promise me my smoke , give it here . So they're like look , man , you're going to have to give us some time .

He's like well , how much time you talking about here ? Piccolo says the most cold hearted shit . He was not expecting this and everyone knows this is so famous , like the fact that Super Buu module was done this year Piccolo says there are plenty of other people down there on earth for you to kill , to buy some time .

He doesn't super speed , dash nothing , he does a normal human being walk all the way around and when he finishes circling back he says so . There's a person that did this , many humans still alive , and at that moment Piccolo knew that he fucked up .

That Majin Buu was going from city to city , just blowing up stuff little by little , little by little . So they were like this is what he's going to do . He's going to probably decimate half of the world . By the time that he's going to decimate half the world by the time he comes back , by the time you know , go , timson Trumps will be ready .

So we should be . We got this . We're going to have some time . This walks around as approximately this many people alive on this . He even named it approximately . He says there is exactly . He counted to the teeth there is exactly this many people alive on that planet down there right now .

And then put his hand to the sky and then leased a garage of keyblasts . That , and keep this in mind . This is what really got scary for me on this point and watching this as a kid . These did not just go and incinerate people . These he targeted not just the people themselves and stuff , and it was not random keyblasts .

These blasts were heat seeking missiles that targeted every single person's heart . When you go back and you read the manga and you look at the anime because anime did a really great job adapting this Every single man , woman and child and anamorphic people too If you were walking on two legs , you was getting killed . He didn't kill animals , although he could have .

He only killed just the human beings because he knew that's what everyone cared about the most , what an anamorphic people . He knew that's what people cared about the most . And all of them were shot through the chest , through their heart , very specifically . Every single blast , not a single one wasted , targeted every person's heart .

Imagine Majin Buu , looking over the entire , look out and was like just kind of locking on every single human being on the planet , put one hand up and was like , alright , how about this make time ? And then fires millions of black raining down . It's raining men on the whole fucking planet , everybody getting the smoke , everybody's done .

And he's like no , like y'all are not going to make me wait , y'all are not going to treat me like I'm some low level villain . I'm not stupid enough just to be sitting around and watch y'all twerking dicks around waiting for my fighter to give me smoke . I want the smoke now . That is why I am here .

You better get his ass out here right now or else I'm killing all of you and you have no excuses because I killed everyone else .

You know what's the worst part about it . You know how we all go through those . Everyone's been through that . We're not everyone , but a lot of people have been through them phases where it's like damn , you know , I just want the world to end . I just want everything to be over with .

Imagine you're sitting there , you having this conversation with your homeboy or your homegirl , and you're sitting here like I'm just ready for the world to end . I just wanted to be over with . That's it . I just wanted to be gone . I'm tired of this . You're sitting with your home person .

They're sitting there telling you like no , no , no , don't go , don't give up . It's not like that . You think like no man for real , this is I . I'm ready for everything to end . I'm tired of this . I want the world to end .

Right now , at that exact moment , you get you and your home person getting flashed through the chest and then you pop up in Kings Gremmers' line and I can imagine turning back around and being like you killed everyone .

But it wasn't technically your wish being granted , it was just a coincidence that some evil motherfucker out in the sky is like okay , y'all are fucked with me , so I'm going to show you how serious I am , so I'm just going to kill everybody else . And I was like , oh well , that one guy wanted to be dead , so I guess he can't complain .

I felt bad for like little kids who , sitting there , probably just got some ice cream and was like , right before you lick the ice cream , blast it through the chest . He like , damn , all I want was some ice cream , some people getting off the water . They're just like I finally got to work . I'm going to go crash on that bed , oh no .

Tien shows up a little bit later , but we thought that he died on the lookout . But I don't know , we have to go back and look at them . We were revisiting just a moment , but Literally that that was it . You just sitting here , like that's it , everyone on the surface of the planet is dead , the only people alive is on the lookout and that's it .

And everyone's like , oh my god . And then , like people fall into the ground , like krillin falls to the ground and he's like what he said he did ? He killed every single . He said there's no life down there , there's nothing there , there's nothing there . He killed everyone . It was like yo , wait , what ? You see ? The merc , everybody on the planet .

That's it , we're done . And then , soon as he finishes , he says all right , everyone's dead , where's my smoke at ? Like bro , wait . He even gives us a time to really recollect the fact of what just happened . He says I don't care , I want my smoke . Where is it at he's like bro , and you got dog on piccolo's like .

But I want that one . Make the other person wait . Sorry , that's not our policy . Then the other dude walks in . He's like , hey , uh , I had ordered , um , the pepperoni piece . I'm here to go ahead and pick it up and say , yeah , this one's for you .

And then soup boo just sat here and just like , shot the dude straight in the face and he was like , oh , it's like he's not here to pick up his piece anymore . So that's my piece right there , like that gruesome . That gruesome was how , how soup boo did this ? He's like dude , that was a bit much , don't you think ? No , no , it was nice .

You said I could kill them and that that's the worst part about it .

Oh , it's one of those moments I think piccolo realized at this moment he's like I am not fit to be god of this planet . I cannot be a commie . I cannot be , I cannot do what commie does Dinday . Dinday is a much better suited for this job than I am .

So to him , his kid , his , his kid technically is already dead , so he cares , you know , his only other , his only other kid is in hyperbolic time chambers . Other kid isn't dead . He was extinct with a life of go 10 and trunks , but you know go 10 . So question to me and um and uh , took as well , will we destroy the entire world for our kids ?

Yes , still , technically , his father .

So piccolo is like I um , I realized I made a mistake in saying that he said I need you to give us one hour . It's a boost , like one hour . He's like how , how long ? How long would I know what that is ? And then he's just like then pops up Piccolo using his magical power .

Because , understand this , remember that piccolo literally as mastered magic , as a genie , literally king piccolo had magical powers , just like this too .

It's one of the reasons why , even though mr Popo is a genie , the real genies in this show are piccolo and was commie Demonded to main genies because piccolo can make anything pop up in his hand Slug man from space .

He said look , if you really want this fight , you really want this smoke , you're gonna sit here and wait Subdued like fine , he sits down and he just kind of sits there and just waits .

Then he's like oh my god , how long is it ? Then they're like bruh , it's only been five minutes , man , they even been . He's not even been anywhere near half the time yet . He said this is taken too long .

I'm sorry but you know you have to appreciate super boo for kind of sort of breaking the fourth wall on uh toriyama's old Formula of doing this because , keep in mind , for most of the villains they ever faced , they always make them play the waiting game yeah , and plus some topic that you know most , all , most all , when it comes down for episodes and stuff .

Everyone moves at super like faster than speed of light , faster than speed of sound and stuff like that , like Son of a hedgehog and got nothing on the on type shit , and so now he's having to literally sit and so he's sitting for five minutes , has not really moved , has not Been around to do anything and he's like this is boring .

And then the dumbest dumbest thing you will ever see in any anime album , this Wonderful well , who we believe to be wonderful because we loved her throughout the whole whole series until this exact moment oh no , this size to get up Walks over and slaps the dude in the face and just sits here and is like he just turns and looks at her , do you ?

But what what he said ? He said do you like candy ? I think you said I'm the wet . I'm the exact way you said . He said do you like chocolate . I think this one was . He says do you like this ? And no , no . You said do you like eggs ? And she's like what ? And then turns her into an egg using his antenna beam and then steps on her .

It was like All right , pause .

Uh , chelsea was like um who hasn't died yet , and she , she was like I have it like well , give it some time . You're hanging around the right and you fast forward to the money boo are . And that's what I was saying .

I really wish that team four star was able to finish it , because at least at that point that jokey Chelsu made would have went full circle .

That's why I like you . But Funny about how the word chichi itself means that . I think it was actually yeah , it was uh callie that mentioned it that chichi actually means dad in japanese , but it's given to her even though she's the mom . But then again , she was also given this name like way earlier in dragon ball .

It also means something else in spanish too . So , uh , chichi , it has a lot of meanings . As I'm looking into it right now , it's a mixed breed of chihuahua and a chinese crested dog . In japanese or some other , no , no , in chinese , my bad , that's chinese and africa it can mean god , and there's a pinacolada , alcohol , a drink called chichi .

But the spanish meaning is uh , you know , tits , boobs , you know that sort of thing , yeah , so it's kind of that's . I used to think , uh , chichi just meant milk , but you know , that's like the .

So this , this , unfortunately at this moment , this dumb she normally isn't , but she really is at this point she was very dumb bitch . So she , this dumb woman , decides to walk up and hit him , just turn into it , gets crushed and go ten , walking out the hyperbolic time chamber trying to you know , check out , see what's going on and stuff like that happens .

To see it happen , bro , work in the worst part of ideas . All they can do is tell him yo , go back , go back , go back , go finish doing what you gotta do . I know you saw this happen , but you can't , you can't charge him right now . He's gonna kill you . You're not strong enough yet . Go do what you need to do .

And it's horrible , like it's one of those moments that really kind of breaks . Imagine that . Imagine that this dude shows up Saying he wants to smoke and you the smoke , this is you . You don't you the smoke , you , you don't want to .

He's supposed to come and deliver this smoke to this dude and literally dude kills your moms but you can't do nothing about it . That's some harsh . It really like you moms is always off-limit on that thing . Like you heard , my mom's about to die . That's it straight up . You're , you are dead , nothing else about .

Uh , for every second that you make me wait To get the smoke , I'm going to kill somebody . And then he just kind of cut corners and just okay , let me get a head start and kill everybody except y'all . So now that should Spore enough time significantly .

He unfortunately spent about two days in the hyperbolic time chamber , which is only about a couple seconds you know out in the real world , but about two days in the hyperbolic time chamber he was like crying the shit and having trouble until he found some , finally , trunks . No , I was able to look .

Man , we're gonna avenge your mom , we're gonna avenge everybody . We need to go do this . So we need to train , we need to get stronger . This is serious , it's a no joke . No more , it's a wounder . Being that push that go to him really needed . So then Subu's like done .

He's like brah , I can't , I'm not , I'm not gonna sit here and deal , just no more , I'm tired of this . He said this is waiting . Just take it too long . It's taking time too long . I've you , take me some more smoke right now . I'm about to kill all of you . I'm going to do this and you know I will do this . Stop playing with me .

So then Piccolo's like I , I fine , fine , he was right , shouldn't have made you wait that long . I'm gonna take you , follow me , I'm gonna take you to where the smoke is at . So then Piccolo purposely takes him . The extra , extra , extra , extra , extra , extra long route took about 30 minutes . Boo was mad . Boo was really ready .

He said so many times he kept telling him . He said hey , man , don't you , don't you want to fight me ? I'll go easy on you . I just need I'm itching , bro . I'm ready to kill some . I just need to kill somebody you know like , just just let me . How about you ? Do you want to smoke ? You want to smoke too , don't you ? Come on bro . Come on bro .

Like I was sitting here , like they made this . They made this magical creature wait so damn long that he's literally at this point , like I'm desperate , I don't do anything right now . Like y'all had me waiting too long . I'm tired of this patient nonsense . How do y'all deal with this . Patience , bro . This is too much and it's one of those things .

Understand , he's the fool in body minute evil , other bitches that y'all fucking with .

Yeah , I'm not sure , but I understand but yeah , it's just like .

It might even tip telepathy , but he used my ability to tell me it might even tip telepathy , but he used my reading powers way back and you know freezes saga way back then . So , whatever , it's one of those things that literally magic to the dragon ball hero , to the dragon ball franchise , means absolutely nothing to them .

Like , literally magic is damn near nothing . The only time that magic wanted to be so much of a big issue is with modgen drum . So , because it's the complete embodiment of all chaos , magic is pretty much what he is . So that's the only time magic is actually giving them trouble . Other than that damn near everybody can do magic To them is nothing .

They're like oh yeah , I can do this magic , boom , whatever is nothing type of thing . It's crazy how dragon ball universe has done that , just made magic damn near obsolete in that world . So , demi , tell it , he's , like you know being telepathic and talking to them . He's like , look , y'all gotta keep training .

I'm taking him a long route , but we're gonna be there in about this amount of time . It keeps checking in and giving him a how much longer to be before he finally get there and he's like he's getting impatient .

I might have to , um , stop walking down the end of staircase and let actually like go to where we go straight to you guys , because you find out the long extra ride that he went to is actually a purposeful maze that never ends . That lets you know how to get out . So once you walk in , you're actually supposed to be stuck there forever .

It's literally limbo . It's literally limbo . I'm like , bro , look out the . The lookouts got everything . You've got the magical limbo , you've got a high quality time chamber . You know the magical world of space and time and stuff Like , and from the lookout you can sense damn everyone on earth .

You shouldn't keep an eye on everyone on earth while also looking over the planet outside the planet to make sure there's no threats coming ? The lookout is is the perfect setup for everything . It is literally the perfect place for god stuff . I'm just realistic onto that .

I really like how the lookout design is , but you really don't get a more understanding of that until the boosock . You get a little bit of it back in dragon ball , but I do , like they were able to , that torii was able to really expand on that .

So then when you finally get piccolo and boo finally show up to the hyperbolic time chamber and this is where things really get bad . Like not even it's just straight up bad this is one of ones where literally Super boo broke the anime code . You do not hit people , made transformation , literally . He shows up and he's like who is this ?

He's like them two , the ones you're supposed to fight . That's gonna give you the smoke . And both of them is like yeah , watch this , we're gonna do this . It's set up for the fusion dance and literally super boo waste no time , I'm so strong straight through the face . He's like really y'all kind of weak . Oh no , he's like what are you doing ?

You hit people , made transformation . That's taboo .

But super boo in particular Was one of my favorite villains in all of dragon ball , like at least um back when it was just Uh and modern boo that we would be talking about and I was a three , I would have said that mind you boo was my favorite because he was just built different .

Like we just haven't none of that shit that , um , the z fighter was doing with freeza and so like no , like he was breaking the mold . It was like nah , huh , all those tropes that you did back in those other art , you're ain't gonna play that same shit with me . It's like I want it now .

That's one of those moments is like as soon , like when I pull up , I'm ready . I'm not waiting , I'm not wasting time , I'm ready as soon as we start . If you say the party starts at five o'clock , I'm gonna get there At six , the party should already be popping by the time I get there .

If I get there and the party ain't popping , this is not what it is , except modje booze , more so , more so . Like you know , if you say the party starts at five , I'm gonna show up at four fifteen . The party needs to be popping when I show up at four fifteen . So you're a little bit Different on that one .

It's like okay , you got to have a little bit of patience . I said it started this time . I don't care , I want it now . So that's the only biggest thing up to that one for me , to that aspect .

So they finally get it right this time like the first time . And he's like , oh , oh , brian , was you , didn't I whip your ass like three days ago ? You know what it's cool ? It's cool , you seem a little bit stronger now . I got this , let's do this thing . And so then they go into this little fight and it's so one sided , it's so one soup .

Boo is like wiping the floor With go tanks , like go tanks is doing all these little special attacks , and it's throwing boo off a little bit . He's like , okay , I mean , you got some little special special tricks and stuff , but so what ? I still I don't know . For me , I do like the Super ghost kamikaze attack .

I do think that that's a very interesting and very creative , because I will say that's one of the biggest things . I think that made the fight interesting and probably is the only thing that kept super boot interested in the fight , because obviously , when it came down for power and hand to hand combat , that literally there was nothing compared to him whatsoever .

But as far as creativity , I will say that that that was something I'm pretty sure that super really did appreciate from that fight Was how creative go tanks was .

Like you thought outside the box and you did all these different things Like you hear about and we talk about energy manipulation before and especially when you talk about it , like in dragon ball super is when we really start getting further into energy manipulation with .

You know , energy swords start coming out a lot more in um in dragon ball super as well , as also you know , the energy scythe that goku black had . So you see all these different forms of energy manipulation . But go tanks manipulated energy that it got its own existence , innocence like he . He created life almost Just by pure energy manipulation .

You don't see that from any other fighter throughout , honestly , the entire franchise period . So I really liked that attack because it's it was really out the box , extremely creative on how it is that he did that . Was there any like special attacks that go teams have for you that kind of stuck out of them ?

it's like he was creating , they were creating um techniques on the fly where we know goku , he pretty much stole all his techniques . So points to them for creativity , definitely .

And but it was just the fact that literally , you know , go teams went super saying and still was just getting body , like literally to the point that , like you had mentioned earlier , that super boot was so Bored that he was reading a magazine , drinking the milkshake Like just stuff on the milkshake , just sitting there , like I said , hmm , yeah , this is nothing ,

just like just literally sitting there , bored out his mind . They're like how dare you sit there and try and think that you can relax against us ? Um , I also still find it funny too . Uh , like Because of the child is antics , some things that super do literally laughed at as well , like when they first did the the ghost kamikaze attack

. It definitely took him by surprise because it actually hurt him . Like he regenerates very quickly , but it still wanted to be in that point . It's like , okay , that actually hurt , like those things are pretty dangerous . And I got to be very careful around and then go . Things does like the dumbest thing possible .

He makes the ghost and they're like yeah , we got this . And they clash hands together and blows up in the space . It's one of those moments that you toriama's a great job tying back into that . These are still kids . They're still gonna make kid mistakes , it's so . It's like piccolo , just pissed off . He's like brah , brah , take this seriously .

He is out there killing people . You're gonna kill everyone if you don't do this . This is our last chance to bring everyone back . It's our last chance for everyone to survive . And then literally did like um , they tell him to say brah , I don't , I don't think we can do this man . He's like I don't think we can beat him .

And you , you don't realize this is another kid's antics because they read too many superhero comics . So there's another childish antics . They're like oh , my god , I think it's over , I think it's done . Now I don't know , I don't think there's anything we can do unless by some miracle , we can do something . And piccolo's like you , serious , it's like you know .

Like yeah , he's like okay , destroy the interest I forgot about a time chamber . Like what did you do ? He said that was the only interest and exit to this magical world . This is from the completely different dimension , a completely different plane of existence from the outside world out there . He said that is the only interest and I destroyed it .

We are trapped in here forever . You will never be out there to feed you , feed on anyone else again . You will never kill anyone else .

So he kills still Krillin Bulma and everyone else except dinde who by mr Popo was throwing off the lookout . So that was the dress was going to be destroyed .

So like I don't know , it was weird as shit , it didn't make sense to me . But yeah , so then they survived . Uh , somehow another tn survived . And what else you're gonna say ?

You know we're supposed to build the tension . He's like there's already tension . You cannot be building extra tension when there's already tension . I thought we were gonna die and then we were the last hope we would detrap him . That was supposed to happen . Well , obviously he got out . I didn't know he was gonna get out .

So then they're like well , what was this other plan that you have ? Now ? Like to stand back and watch this ? Go Super Saiyan 3 , pick a little , obviously pissed . If you could do this this whole time , why the fuck did you not do this shit early ? It's like you know you're supposed to build the tension again . Shut up with the tension .

Shit , you should have did this earlier . Now , can you get us out of

here ? They go Super Saiyan 3 . They scream and create a huge portal , and this is one thing that should show how much stronger go-tanks should be , because both of them screamed with all of their might at that moment . It was extremely loud out like all of their air into them . Boo , super Boo , only made a small tear in the fabric of space .

However , super Saiyan 3 go-tanks made such a huge tear in the fabric of fabric of space that it literally tore open a huge portal so that way they could go ahead and get out . So they get out and you notice Everyone is gone , like everyone's gone , everyone's dead . And they're like no , we're too late , we didn't get here in time .

Of course , go-tanks Well , go-tank and trunks at that moment both of them are breaking down Because they realized both their appearance , all of them , everyone's gone . And they're like we were too late . We shouldn't have been playing like we did . We should have went on a lot . Like you said , mr Piccolo , we screwed up , we killed everyone .

Piccolo's like it's not over yet . Since you have this power , it's time for round two . Let's go find him and let's go do this . So .

Can you imagine the stronger z-fighters being like hitting like super saiyan 3 , super saiyan 4 , super saiyan god and being like , okay , dream a dimensional hole to appear ? Hold on .

First fight in the first tournament that they did between universe 6 and universe 7 , it was specifically said that when hit stops time Like when he every time he skips ahead , he stores up time , and when he keeps storing it up and storing it up , he literally jumps into a completely different dimension .

However , goku was able to tear into that dimension that only hit was supposed to be able to go into . It's his own special pocket dimension , simulti , like the hype about a time chamber , but one that he can control himself and move around freely in himself , and Goku was able to tear into that dimension a little bit .

So we did kind of revisit about how much more powerful everyone else is as far as like breaking different dimensions and shit too . We actually have kind of doubt . They did actually dive into that . It's a super , just a little bit .

This whole time is all this is happening . You got supreme kai . Well , supreme kai had accidentally fused with his underling at that moment , so I forgot a cabito kai . I think it's what they called him . Yeah , it was like cabito kai . Um . So they are sitting here watching this and they're like , oh my god , this is horrible .

And the whole time , old kai is still sitting here doing his little dance around gohaw , I'm trying to help him lock his ultimate potential . And just a quick jump back as well . The whole z sword situation . They're like if you train with the z sword , it's going to be super powerful .

And then , literally , supreme kai is popping up and all these little different things , because they went and got goku , because the kai is technically in the world of the afterlife , so goku can be there freely as well . So they're sitting here , they're popping up all this stuff and they're like huh , it can cut through anything .

And they're like yeah , how about we test it out ? Let's try this boulder . Slices through it . Let's try this . Slices through it . And they're like this is the hardest metal in the universe . Throws it , breaks the z sword . They're like oh my god , this is supposed to be the most powerful weapon in training , with this should unlock your ultimate potential . What ?

How did this break ? That doesn't make sense . What did you guys do ? And then like maybe it wasn't as strong as you thought . Then old kai is like oh , I was trapped in there for like a hundred years . Oh , thank you for freeing me . And I'm like wait , what I feel ?

I met , for you know that analogy or whatever whereas like , oh well , you never really needed this sword .

Like , are you serious ? So Forget the rounds .

So he's just literally just lunging , exercising around gohan . He's like bro , what the hell ?

He's like , okay , yeah , it's a little bit sitting here , like now they're going through the round two fight , but now , because the super saiyan three go tanks , you know super boost actually struggling a little bit and he was like okay , this is a little bit more , um , it's a little bit more interesting to fight .

So now you're finally in a sentence feeling like almost neck and neck in the sense . But what's also helping out too , is that piccolo is giving them advice .

And again , like you had mentioned that super boost and evil genius this was , this was definitely another proof to how much of an evil genius that he actually was when you really think about it , because literally this guy sits here and he just he looks at the fact that he just looks at the fact that he's like you have all the power , but you have all of

the intelligence and you keep that in mind from later . So he's fighting , he's really just fighting go tanks , but he knows that piccolo is giving him advice , so he knows that this is happening and then finally , all kinds , all of a sudden , the ding goes off in his head . It's just another little stupid thing .

But the ding goes off in his head , ding , and he's like , oh wait , oh , time's up , you're all good to go . And you're like what , you're all good to go , bye . And you go ahead and they're trying to give him back his game . Gohan finally goes back into the frame .

Now ultimate gohan shows up as like , go , tanks is starting to wear out , the fusion is about to start wearing out soon .

And so you literally sitting here like , okay , things is about to start getting bad , super boost is about to win , and so literally winds up having the ultimate gohan finally shows up , he's finally doing his thing , and he's like , okay , I'm here , I'm about to go ahead and decimate . So they start fighting me .

Now Ultimate gohan is Decimating boo Like he's straight up decimating his body . He was like this is nothing , this isn't even a fight , this is nothing whatsoever . And you know , you got old kai and um Goku and cabito kai just sitting here like , yeah , go , honking , do it . Okay , your dance wasn't worthless at all , you were actually doing something .

And old kai is like , of course I was doing something . What is wrong with you ? You need to have more faith in your elders . So this stupid stuff . Um , there was not too much intro , too much more interesting that happened into this fight , minus the fact that , like you know , super boo being intelligent , he , now that he's absorbed , he winds up .

He's realizing that he Needs to do something . So he's like I need to absorb some more people and we're like wait . So literally , as gohan is fighting him , he's breaking off pieces of himself and these little pieces that just sitting here moving around the battlefield and nobody sees it happening .

Piccolo and all of his intelligence doesn't foresee this happening whatsoever until it's too late . We're literally

Was the ultimate . Gohan finally got booed to court . He was just talking all types of mad shit . Like he was just talking mad shit . So it's like really , this is it , this is all the power you have . He said this is so boring . I went through all this time trying to unlock my own power and I wound up becoming so much more stronger than you .

The saying in gohan started showing Smart talking gives you bad .

potential . And you could say the same hubris the Vegeta has Was kind of showing in gohans where he would stop digging himself so much like even piccolo with his Just all annoying ass , was like there's something different about you , gohan , it's not just your floating demeanor , it's like See more confidence in yourself .

And it's like that's more like kind of cockiness to me Weird mix of confidence and cockiness because yes , you're , you unlock your pull potential , you might , you've got something to show for . But at the same time it's like you're kind of overestimated your enemy here .

You should have finished me off when you had the chance . I mean , like what do you mean that all of a sudden , boom , big glob , pink , pink glas pop up behind super saying three go tanks and Behind piccolo and just start crushing them down and like Some I don't know some weird amoeba type shit just started ? I don't know how to describe it . It was weird .

Like it was a horrible big bubble gum mess Of clay . It was like gum . No , no , this is like the claymation animations when all of a sudden , the little clay people just like turn back into clay balls and they just drill them , like just kind of melt back down . That's kind of what happened . It was really really disgusting .

If you think too much into it , be disgusting . You said what Count with the putties from power rings .

So then , all of a sudden , now in Gohan does not break the taboo for some odd reason , instead of trying to help them or trying to fight this away , he just stands there as , literally , the two blobs just jumped a super boo and just absorbed back into his body . And now we have you .

It is really just , he's still super boo , but I would say advanced super boo , because now he talks a whole lot more shit Because the fact that he's absorbed go tanks , because the fact that he's absorbed go tanks but he has all of go tanks , his power , but now he has all of piccolo's intelligence . Oh yeah , so that was . So .

Now we have this fight , and this is where Gohan is actually starting to struggle . This is where things are starting to get really , really bad , because super boo's power is multiplied by the fact that he also has Super Saiyan 3 go tanks his power , up with his extra long tentacle too at that . So I thought that was a pretty interesting note .

Oh , to the long , here he gives an extra long tentacle and then , and then , of course , he winds up having piccolo's pants ? Well , no , no , he just has the fusion clothes . That's really all he has . He has the pants and the little , the little mini vest and shit too . So he's sitting there and at this moment he wastes no time whatsoever .

He does every single special attack that he's seen go tanks do um , literally doing the , um little the donut ring . He did the donut ring attack . He did his own super ghost kamikaze attack as well and like that shit freak gohan . Now he was like what the hell is this ?

And then old Kai , he's like well , I've lived a very long time , so I'm gonna just go ahead . And uh , you , you , you can go back if you're alive . He's like well , I can't be wished back from you know , supreme Kai is like , well , kamino Kai is like he can't be wished back from the dragon balls again .

So he's already been wished back , um , once already from dragon balls . It's not gonna happen again . And they're like well , I'll just give you my life . And they're like what ? And all of a sudden , old Kai is just like , hmm , falls over . And he was like what the fuck , what , what ? And then , like Goku's halo disappears to drink .

He's like oh , kai , I'm not gonna waste , I'm not gonna waste this life that you've given me . And no , kai gets up . You better not waste my death . Now . This actually speculated . I'm just doing a quick rant on this because this one's interesting to me . This speculates a lot of how old Goku can actually be .

So apparently it's already apparent Of the fact that Saiyans have this life expectancy a little bit more than half of normal human life . Human um Saiyans are usually to expect to live up to about 200 earth years in a sense , based upon it , based upon , like , how their body and metabolisms and things are as well .

So even Gohan actually can see , even being a half Saiyan can wind up out living the Dell . You could probably be old enough to actually see um Pan have children and then he would only look just old enough to be like a father to them and stuff . So that's where a lot of speculation from gt , with old pan at the very end of the series , is very different .

A lot of people don't this one of those things that gets a lot of speculation . But we'll go into gt when we get to there . Um , but with his life expectancy , kais are expected to live significantly longer .

Obviously that they're supposed to be in the sense of mortal beings , um , but you know old Kai , proving the fact that you can still age as well , and it's speculated that maybe he had rough , based upon the information that he gave that he said he only had a couple thousand more .

He only like a maybe like a couple hundred or up to about a thousand more years left to live Before he was time for him to go anyway . So by giving the rest of his life to Goku , it's expected that he gave Goku his extra Thousand years of life .

So a speculation that Goku can live to be , can probably live to be another thousand years Older than he's already to live , and that's Possibly either added to how many years that he's already expected to live , which is supposed to be up to about 200 .

However , most sayings don't live that long anyway because they have a must for battle and a lust for going out and trying to get themselves killed all the damn time , which Goku has done quite a few times in super just Could have put that out there and so and so with that , it's like it's this live speculation that Goku may want to living significantly longer .

Um To that , but just a quick like mentioned into that one , though . So literally , old Kai gives Goku the rest of his life , however long that is . We don't know , we'll figure that out later on in super , much much later on in super , I guess . But um . So there's a lot of speculation on that one . So then Goku , waste no time .

As soon as he gets this life , that like , don't waste it , go , he does . His transmission immediately Teleports into the fray , into the fight .

So he and ultimate gohan are trying to fight against super boom and of course , due to special plot device , but also at the same time , you know , situations happen the fusion between go to him and trunks finally breaks . But what I find most funny about this is why I say plot devices , because technically this user should have broke a long time ago .

Right , it should have been gone , but for some bizarre reason it didn't , especially because , in effect , when going super saiyan 3 , it's been proven that super saiyan 3 drains power . So by draining power , the fusion dance should have went away even sooner than that . But again , plot device . So Finally the fusion breaks .

And when the fusion breaks he only has just the individual powers you know of piccolo go 10 , of trunks , which is significantly weaker than super saiyan 3 go tanks . So at that point the fight is not going to be difficult anymore .

But gohan is badly beat up , and then even as well at the time goku was really thinking about the fact he took the pitari earrings , he was really thinking about the fact he was going to have to fuse with gohan , really speculating the fact that this may mean that they'll never Dfuse ever again , that if they fuse with the pitari earrings is supposed to be

permanent and that's it . And so it was being very interesting in that aspect Because the fight was going bad up until , you know , the fusion finally wore off and goku finally had to breathe her . He was like , uh , okay , it's not bad anymore , we got this .

Then , because goku takes a damn breath , super boo , I think I think those at this point that super boo tried to jump inside of goku's body Like and did like a little gum thing and tried to jump inside of goku's body . I don't remember how it is that that did not work because goku couldn't really stop it from happening .

I think it was because , like vegeta had showed up in tn , had magically showed about a nowhere to help out or something . It was very weird Because somehow another his special blast also that killed everyone , also didn't kill hercule .

You know that Everyone's really speculated that's the majin boo in him just would not let him kill hercule , no matter how hard he wanted to , which Makes sense when we really get into later on about kid boo . But so we wanted to . So hercule also didn't get killed as well . And somehow another tn managed to escape from lookout during .

You know super boo's rampager out that whole shit too . So I don't remember how exactly happened , but they intervened and managed to stop super boo from like imploding inside of goku's body . But they wanted to do . The boo wanted doing it again .

He distracted everyone just long enough for another little blob of his to overtake gohan and again Saying taboo for some of our reasons , to sit there and watch this shit happen . Gohan , no , can you fight it off . Do you need some help ? Do you need some help ? You know , I can imagine gohan being here like that . First you gave sell a sense of .

Then this dude tries to jump in your body and try to kill you and we stopped that from happening . But you can't bring your mind over here and stop me from getting hit by this dog on gump of goon . You just sit here and let me get in the line .

I know we've already had our discussion about goku and him being at that like we were going to that , but that's still like I'm just saying First sense of being . Y'all saved him , but you definitely couldn't save gohan . You just sat there and it's like , oh no gohan , oh my god , what's happening ? How about getting over there ?

You're faster than the speed of sound , bro . Which means by the time you're saying , oh gohan , you could have already been over there to try and help his behind out , but no , you just let it happen . He gets absorbed and now we have ultimate gohan fused , ultimate gohan version of super boot , and this motherfucker ain't nobody to play with .

This is the strong mind attack . So we got a couple more minutes , but this is where the real fight kind of begins . So , before I kind of jump into my favorite parts of this fight , was there anything that you wanted to mention so far about some of the previous fights or about this fight you want to talk about ?

Nothing really um , you pretty much covered everything . I ain't trying to take everything from you , bruh , but that's good .

Goat like um Vegeta manages to show up and he Both he and Goku are having serious trouble fighting against Super boot at this point . So boot is like immensely powerful . And he realizes as soon as he absorbed ultimate gohan , he was like , oh , this kid was powerful . He was like , oh yeah , he could have definitely killed me , but he didn't .

He just kept wasting time . Well , that's his fault . I now have this power . Oh , I'm gonna enjoy this shit . So he's sitting here like Beating the brakes out of Goku and Vegeta in this whole time . Goku's trying to tell Vegeta like yo , we're gonna have to fuse , and he's like a rubber fuse to do that stupid little dance with you .

He's like no , we're gonna fuse using these earrings . He's like what do I look like wearing earrings ? I think that was more . That was also funny thing about that too , is that that was more the american translation as well . Vegeta didn't have too much of an issue wearing earrings . He just didn't want to fuse with Goku . That was specifically what it was .

So there's one thing I do want to mention . That was pretty funny , that that him wearing an earring Was just humor for america . That is much in in in japanese . So I thought that was a pretty , you know , a little funny thing on that . Oh , but yeah .

So Vegeta just absolutely refuses to , and then Goku even tells him he's like yeah , once you fuse with this , we would never diffuse . He said I'm definitely not confused , I'm stopping you permanently , like you no . And so we just sitting here like bro , we don't have much of a choice . He's like he's gonna kill , he's , he's already Like bomo's , already dead .

He's absorbed trunks . He said dude , this is what we got to do , otherwise , this is it , man , this is like straight up , we're done . There's no way to bring everyone back , there's no way to do anything . This is it , you're going to lose this fight . Once he hit Vegeta's pride , pre was like that's . That's when .

He was like all right , fuck , give me the damn earring . And so when they put it on , he's like he puts it on like this , right , I mean , you know they finally just boom . Now we got Vegeta has shown up into the frame .

Now , vegeta , this fight , bruh , if you think that , if you , this is one of the things that you really kind of question there's a whole lot of speculation between um the Gato and the other fusion .

Like I know , jet I'm trying not to mention it too much because jet black , I know you're really , really upset that the other world tournament and you know , fusion reborn is not canon as much as we really wanted to be .

But Just saying so , the , this special fusion that we have , like you , I struggle to really realize who takes over more , because apparently this is where we really started first , seeing the fact that , okay , depending on the type of fusion , one side has more , has , in a sense , more of a dominance than the other side .

So , even though it's vegeto and it starts off with Vegeta's name , goku's goofiness Takes over more in this fight than it would with the other fusion , or is that just me ? Like gojita has more of the giz personnel , I would think .

Vegeta played around not just in this one , they're also in super as well , against arms and muscle , but we'll get into that later on . But I don't know , like vegeto's just much more for goofball to me , so he doesn't take the fight seriously . It's like not even having to go . Super saiyan . He was like this fight is easy to me and I don't really care .

And I think it's also that moment of understanding that I think what also makes a big difference too , whenever you do an effusion dance , like gojita knows that his fusion is going to wear off in 30 minutes . If I don't do this , within 30 minutes it's going to wear off and we have to redo the fusion dance for me to come back .

So , but with vegeto , they have this true belief that the fusion can't be undone . We're stuck like this permanently . I have this permanent overpower boost , so it's whatever to me .

I'm going to speculate that that's probably one of the reasons why he took this fight , so Not serious , like not caring whatsoever . So this fight is very short , like literally one of the shortest Main fights , I think , in the whole series , when you really think about it . I think because it was like only like two episodes long , if I'm correct .

Based on this fight , like the first fight was Him showing up , like when we finally get this fusion , uh , vegeto first showing up and then the second fight Literally ends with him being turned into candy . So you know this , this was . This was like a really short fight , but vegeto took this not seriously whatsoever .

He was just doing nothing , like just doing the absolute most , just being super boo around . Super boo was getting pissed off everything he kept doing , but jito had a counteract for it . He even took a hit that he literally took a hit in . His super boo was like huh , I finally got you and he just sat .

They just sat there like yeah , that wasn't anything , bruh , that they really didn't do anything . You want to see what a real hit is . And then you like gut punches that my super was like , oh my god , this is horrible and I think one of the funny things about it is that you would kind of eston , you would kind of speculate .

Vegeta expected the same thing to happen to super boo . What happened to sell . So it's like another little callback . Remember when teen gohan gut punched perfect cells so hard that he spit out 18 ? Yeah , I think vegeto kind of expected , expected the same thing to happen .

Gut punched him so hard that he's like I'm about to vomit , I'm about to vomit out all the people I just absorbed , but that's not what happened . So it's like oh okay , so many people are actually just absorbed by you and stuff . So now we have like super boo just added , like Literally , it's like I still gotta , I still have the brain to pick a lot .

I have to be able to , like you know , really speculate . I really have to plan out how I'm about to do this , because I'm about to lose this fight if I don't figure this out . And so then he manages . He literally tricks vegeto .

He literally tricks vegeto to letting him turn into candy , like literally tricks him enough to be able to pull off the little little candy beam attack and turns him into a ball of candy . But the ball of candy is still floating in the air . Do you really think ?

Well , come on , see if you can eat me , see if you can eat me . And then boo's is constantly trying to chop him down and every time he tries to chop his keys , moving out of the way . No , no , you miss , you miss , you miss . Oh , you know what . You were supposed to eat me here .

I'll go ahead and just jump straight into your mouth and just like blast through his , through his jaw , through the back . He's like yo , wait it literally just the whole anime . The animation was like Like funny as hell . It was beautiful to me , it was funny as hell . In fact , you just showed this little Dog on candy ball just beating the shit out of boo .

All you can see is like the little nebulous , little nebula symbol , like a little light balls rotating around , rotating around , just beating the next side of his body , and boo's like uh , uh , uh . He's like this is not what's supposed to happen . This is not what's supposed to be happening . Hey , what is going on ?

Oh man , this fight was like hilarious to me , god . I'm like no , for real . Like what , how did you feel about this ? Like , how would you feel you turn , turn him into candy . All you got to do is eat . Now , everyone else you've turned the candy does not fight back .

Literally nobody else has turned the candy , does not fight back , but this one person turns into candy and starts beating the mess out your mind . How do you feel about that ?

He was smart enough to put up an energy barrier to Bring himself from you know , uh , keep his intelligence and his power and his consciousness , even when boo , like , decides okay , here's the deal , I'm going to Turn you back to normal , because this is some bullshit .

And then Vegeta was like okay , uh , I'm going to give you 10 seconds to do whatever you want . And Boo was like all right , so he absorbs Vegeta . But even with that said , he does . Super boo does a game in your Vegeta's powers . That energy barrier is around him . He absorbed . So , yeah , this whole fight . I thought it was a Comical and entertaining like .

I want to say like between that fight and the fight between him and Oton and Gouba-Pon would fight the funniest shit in the whole most definitely Like literally just that moment .

But then Now we finally get to this little thing and this is just kind of like I don't know . I mentioned this to you before , I felt this little segment was filler . So the juto gets absorbed . No , it doesn't even get fully absorbed because it's energy barrier , like you said .

So Literally super boo sitting here like yeah , I've absorbed them , but I haven't changed yet . What's going on ? So he's also kind of sitting aboard out his mind because he's like I don't know how to kill everyone . There's nothing else for me to do here . What am I gonna do ? So but then he's still trying to also figure out why it is that those two have .

That's why it is they haven't been absorbed yet . He's like why is it not like a part of my body anymore ? What's going on ? So then , as soon as they get absorbed , as soon as they put down the energy barrier , then all of a sudden goku and vegeta separate .

Of course , we find out much later on that , as far as the permanent fusion only works for kais , kais will become fused permanently when they both share a set of pitari earrings . However , for mortals that's not the case . The fusion for pitari earrings wears off the same way as if the fusion dance does . It literally wears off in only 30 minutes .

So they dropped the energy barrier and the fusion was undone . So so , literally , now we got goku and vegeta traversing through Super booze body , all throughout his body , through his intestines , his brain and stuff , trying to figure , trying to find everyone . And then they finally managed to find , um , everyone that's been absorbed . They found no mod .

They see Gohan go , 10 trunks . They see piccolo , but they also see mazhan boo , like fat boo is . So it's still there as well . You know , like this is Very interesting . He said so . Apparently they wanted to be in two separate entities somehow . It's like well , I don't know . But then they're having trouble because now super boo has found them inside his body .

He's like I found you . It makes like these little clones inside of his body to fight them , and because the fusion wore off , they're both not strong enough anymore . And goku's , of course , trying to tell vegeta . He's like hey , we need to fuse back again . He said I just got out that fusion with you . I am not going back to sharing a body with you again .

We are never doing that again . But jesus like absolutely not , I'm not having it . So , as they're struggling , they realized that they , you know , they realized the fact that , hey , if we cut out the people that he's absorbed , then because they haven't been fully integrated into his body yet , so like they're still here , they're still in these little cocoons .

If we cut them out , he loses some of himself . And no , boo even said that . He said no , if you , if you cut them out , I'll lose myself , I'll lose who I am . And they're like well , of course we're gonna do that . So they cut them out , so they cut everyone out .

And then , at that moment , an immense transformation is starting to happen inside a boo , inside a super boo . So he's literally like losing it outside . He's like I , I mean , he's like his body is shrinking , congesting , and at that moment , goku and the Jews like yo , we need to get out of here . So they grab the pods and they hurry up and they dash out .

And they managed to make it out through the steam of his head . So as soon as they get out , they look and they see he's transforming and like dude , dude , dude , dude . They're like , oh okay , they said , well , he said he's gonna lose himself . So I don't know what's about to happen . Right now . They're like , well , he's shrinking .

So this couldn't be all the Jews like we shrinking , this can't be bad and he's losing a lot of power . So this is , this is nothing . This shouldn't be anything right now . And then is where things get bad . Now we have been brought to Kid boo and I'm gonna leave it on that . That's gonna happen until our next episode .

like I'll have , you know , I do not like slimy things and it looks just like the same reaction on Sonic and Shadow would have in that moment and Sonic X and I'm just like bro , the parallel between these two franchise .

So we will definitely be coming back with kid boo , because if you thought Super Boo , like towards the beginning , was no joke to play with , it is so much worse with kid boo , like the scariest , literally like every single . Put this way and drag them all .

Fighters , like dragon ball fighters or dragon ball fighters is what is really called , but no dragon ball fighters that people know it as , literally . Kid boo is my favorite character . Kid boo is straight up , pure menacing chaos at his best . He has finally been turned back to his true form because they have cut out .

All goodness has now been cut out out of him . He no longer has the humanity that go to him and trunks has . He no longer has the intelligence that gohan and pick a little has . He no longer has the good nature that still was present , even a little bit , inside of Super Boo . Super Boo had moments that he would still kind of hold off a little bit .

You know , like he was talking a lot of mess , but he was still hold off . He wouldn't immediately finish his opponent . Kid boo is not that person . You cut out all of that . Kid boo is not that person .

But , that being said , that is the end of this Super Boo saga review . We will come back with the kid boo saga . We're going to be coming back with a lot more episodes and I do apologize if some of these episodes are just coming off at weird times .

Just , you know , things happen and between editing and whatnot , we probably won't get all the episodes uploaded in a timey manner , but we will get it done . By the way , I'm really liking D script , where it's kind of making it on our editing these episodes a lot better for me . So I mean kind of having fun doing that .

But yeah , let's go ahead and sign off from here . Remember , folks stay nerdy because great things are coming . And until the next episode of Dragon Ball Z , these three reviews you take it easy .

Just don't go ahead and finish up this review and see , I find it very funny that we're talking about with the Kid Boo ARG is the fact that this is the probably one of the most hated arcs of Dragon Ball Z , which is very interesting to me Because this one is one of my favorites .

But I do understand there's a lot of hate for this art , bro , like a lot . It's crazy .

And looking at it as an adult , we have a lot more critical thinking into it , and so we pay more attention to plot lines , pay more attention to various different things that start to make sense . Yeah so , but yeah , it's pretty interesting in that aspect .

So All right well , yeah , we've got quite a bit to say on to this one , so I guess we can go ahead and get started . But , by the way , definitely check us out Facebook , course , instagram and , if I'm correct , you said we already had you working on Twitter .

I am making sure I get myself back into my chances to animate and draw again so that way I can try to , you know , get some really cool stuff out to you guys as well . Too Interesting to see what I can do this year .

Like , by the time you listen to the intro , then okay , we just continue on where , unless we do it like way to the outro and do like some promos that we kind of normally don't mention in the intro .

So that's why I was telling you , yes , off the record , that yo , I'm going to work on outros , but depending on what else we plug into the outro , that's when you know it might be different . So that's why I hold off on the outros , unless it's like a special occasion but like an epilogue .

But anyways , funny enough , I'm working on some things too , like check talk to where normally I have like my screen named Jeff , like extreme plug in the zone , but I'm able to loop that little bit . Now I think we would can't but check that out .

Speaking of Canva , you will not believe this because they got a new bit to where you can generate AI or in there . Okay , and I'm supposed to be excited about this because I mean it's just funny because we had this , I think , like a few reviews ago , but I just thought was just a coincidence ?

I'm trying to use Canva to work on some projects without using that function , but I didn't think it would be in there until recently , when I got on there for the first time in a while and was like oh , whoa , okay .

But without further ado , let's go ahead and zone in on this review of the kit boot art . So what are your feelings on it ? So far ? That's it .

Yes , there's a bunch of nonsense that's on there , but sometimes I'm here for the nonsense . Sometimes it's funny , sometimes it's not . I get that , but in many cases it can be funny . The anime side is very funny too , and literally we're just reading up about , you know , super boot , about all the different forms of boo .

You know we have , you know , fat boo . We have evil boo , which you know technically is all the negative karma , everything that's bad and blue . We have super boo . You know all the different variations of super boo , which is all pretty much still super boo .

And then of course , we have OG , kid boo , and so it's like it's very interesting with the article that I read as far as about understanding the different power scaling between all of them , and I will say is one of those things that I didn't really think about .

It In my mind , kid boo is like the strongest form of boo , but a lot of people actually agree that no , kid boo is not the strongest form of boo . The strongest form of boo was actually super boo .

Keep in mind that with super boo he still had modem boo , you know , fat boo still absorbed inside of him before he was bad . I resulted into kid boo and fat boo absorbed . I think it was either a Supreme kind or an elder kind . It was a kind . Either way , it was a Supreme kind .

It's not because of the Supreme kind , the shin , it's not because of shin of shin , it's literally because Majin Boo is actually still alive . So if Beerus got mad and decided to kill boo , he would have killed himself . That was the little . It's a little funny tidbit they didn't actually Super , but it's a little funny tidbit to understand . No , yeah .

If you consider , okay , now that he's like Gohan absorbed , he pretty much that's like the peak at that point . So I kind of get why they say Super Boo . That's all I'm saying .

In the manga , literally Vegeta , before they merged into Vegeta , literally said Vegeta looks at Goku and was like why don't you turn into your Super Saiyan 3 and fight him ? And Goku looks at him and he's like you look at him and you say I'm gonna be honest with you .

I was like no , you could have used that against me . But no , I was like , but Vegeta understand ? Like no , I hit , fuck you , I don't care that whole thing .

Goku actually admits that Super Boo , after absorbing ultimate Gohan and still having you know Piccolo's wisdom on top of you know ultimate Gohan's power and still supplied with a little bit of Goat and Trunks even though the fusion failed , like you know , ended it still was you still kind of has those kids powers as well , and they're also Super Saiyan .

They're still strong Super Saiyans . Their normal Super Saiyan is about equivalent enough to about a Super Saiyan 2 for Goku and Vegeta , and that's still saying something like they are strong for little kids . So you keep all of that in mind , that he has all of that power . Yes , ultimate Gohan absorbed Super Boo is the absolute strongest form of Boo .

That was the reason they had to fuse . So that was one of the things that a lot of people have mentioned into that Goku admitted Super Saiyan 3 . He could not . It would not make a difference . They would still get killed . Their only option was to fuse . They didn't have a choice per se .

A lot of the emphasis is put more in the manga than it was the anime . So then we have Kid .

It absolutely drains him consistently . So the longer he's in that form , yes , he's got a mint strength , but he slowly gets weaker and weaker because he is losing his energy from being in that form for so long .

So , keeping that in mind , on top of the fact that Kid Boo has like an almost nonstop stamina , like literally almost pretty much about the same as an android , but even Kid Boo does have a limit . That has been proven . He does have , like Boo still does have a limit because it's still a living protected creature . That's not biomechanical .

So , but he has like a mint strength .

So still keeping the fact that with that , goku was still able to go toe to toe with him , still keeping that in mind , of course , the fact that he's still losing stamina , but still going toe to toe with Kid Boo and , yes , kid Boo was playing with him Eventually , you know , vegeta winds up going in and just gets decimated .

Oh , he just gets so damn decimated , so damn horrible .

But keeping that in mind , that's the reason why a lot of people argue , you know , kid Boo definitely was weaker in Ultimate form Gohan , because that was like Ultimate form , gohan absorbed Super Boo because of that aspect , like Goku wouldn't even , didn't even try to waste his time going Super Saiyan 3 , but with Kid Boo he did , he still , he was able to not

only go Super Saiyan 3 , he was able to fight for a little bit , you know , in that form , and still try to go toe to toe with Kid Boo for a little bit , keeping him entertained . So back to your original question . I just found it very interesting in that aspect . That's why it's like it's one of those things it's like as a kid .

When I first watched it , I was like , oh my God , Kid Boo , this is the ultimate form , this is the strongest form , and then you know how we even miss it yeah and it wasn't . But then how they show that the first thing Kid Boo does is that . I think what was it ? I can't remember the guy's name on YouTube . He wanted to do this .

He wants to do these videos of Black Air Force Energy characters . He has a Black Force Air Force Energy character .

When you get to kid boo , First thing the kid boo does is he looks at the world . He sees how pretty it is and then immediately establishes his dominance . He screams , just just yells , just for the sake of it . He yells so loud that it is not only heard all across planet Earth , it is heard all the way in the afterlife . Literally .

They showed the scenes where other people like in the afterlife . They're like what the fuck is that noise ? The guys are like , oh my God , it's so damn loud . And that wasn't from the crystal ball , that was just how loud he was . That was to show how immensely powerful he was .

That his yell and this is not even one that he's like angrily yelling or anything like that . This is just because I'm bored as fuck . I want to announce my what would do ? Say , do say , I'm going to establish my dominance Screams . Even the afterlife knows that this nigga exists . If you didn't know , you now know that he exists .

You hear this and literally after he does that CJ the champ . He's a champ . Yes , for a CJ was always funny , oh my God . So literally after he does that , the next thing he does is like all right , just pulls up this small ass ball of energy and just chucks it to the earth and go to the Giga , immediately take action , like this motherfucker is crazy .

He didn't say nothing , he didn't do nothing . He just screamed and said I kind of blow this bitch up and then try to blow it . I don't know what to mean . That tells you that that is the most dangerous motherfucker out there .

You know that I'm trying to beam that image into your head , like you know what I'm talking about . That just imagine that face is like an example of a perfect minute . That kiss .

I've seen in so many cases that literally , when you have kid boo , just have him just do a creepy smile , honestly , just him smiling , period . It's how kid boo just smiles . It is one of the most disturbing images that you have .

Why was it that Super Boo , when it came down to them taking count , taking everything , super Boo , when you on the inside of his body , he was frustrated . The ultimate gohan was snatched out . He was frustrated when go to the trucks and piccolo was taken out . But then when Vegeta was like , hmm , I wonder what happens if I take out this one .

He was , it was going towards Majin Buu . Super Boo jumped in begging please do not take him out . If you do , I will lose everything that I am . And we had this understanding . You know it was like oh , so we rip him out , he's going to die . And I get , in the course of half , even go to . Vegeta was thinking that no , no .

What's he took ?

Okay , I understand .

They're like I don't want to do this , I'm going to negotiate with you , but the minute that is being taken from them , the both of them immediately tell the , tell the other , tell the people that they're going after . I want you to understand , because you have done this . There is no going back , there is no apologies , you're going to die .

That's all that he was , and find it real funny too the fact that the real reason that kid boo was even allowed to be made was because beers was taking an extra long , as that , which I've done analysis on this . I've done analysis on this . It's actually very interesting in this case .

Okay , so , before the old fat Kai , but before the old Kai that being absorbed by Majin Buu , old Kai , elder Kai , was actually supposed to take the role of Supreme Kai and he did briefly mention this and they did mention this in Super . So I was going to revisit this back , but elder Kai was telling the story about that .

There was an evil God , someone who was far worse than Buu , that wound up sealing him inside of the Z sword , and so one of the funny things that happens in this case is the fact that as soon as beer seals elder Kai inside the Z sword , all of a sudden , beer is , starts feeling tired and starts going into a long hibernation that he doesn't seem to wake

up from because his Kai was sealed and locked away . He winds up going into his own version of sealing , of the self induced hibernation , where even he was frustrated that he was sleeping for so long . He didn't expect to be sleeping for so long , but he was which allowed all these other things to happen .

You know Frieza becoming an overlord and then , of course , majin Buu being created .

Well , even before Frieza became an overlord , because even King Cole was wind up as like being afraid of Majin Buu as well too , but all this because beers wound up being asleep this whole time there had to be other destructors to destroy planets , to keep creating forms of destruction , so that way things could keep going .

And I'm going to revisit this back too , because Vegeta did ask Shin why it is that , when Frieza was out doing all the stuff and causing these other planets to blow up , why it is that they didn't stop him , especially because , in fact , that Shin admitted that there were four Kais who easily could have killed Frieza in one hit .

So Frieza easily could have been taken out a long time ago , but they never did on purpose , and I think that might have been the main reason they also allowed Buu to reign for so long before they finally got involved , because the only reason they got involved is because Buu went to them and started attacking the gods .

Once he started attacking gods , they were like , okay , now we got to put a stop to him . But this is all part of Kid Buu , because this is all Kid Buu that was doing this . But it was still very interesting when I started putting those little plot points together and this might not be what Toriyama did on purpose , but it lines up very well .

You sealed the old Akai and you wound up going into a hibernational sleep because you sealed your Akai .

To where that whole theory after Dragon Ball Super Super Hero , where essentially they were saying that Toriyama supposedly confirmed that the events of Dragon Ball Super Super Hero happened right before the ending of Dragon Ball Z , which means in between the whole 10-year gap after Kid Buu was defeated , there was the whole events of Dragon Ball Super , and then

everything leading up to Dragon Ball Super Super Hero was right before we saw Uub and the whole tournament before final shots of Dragon Ball Z and then move on to Dragon Ball GT . Now , hold on , stay with me .

It's funny that you say that because with the whole sealing thing , now that the elder Kai was unsealed from the Z sword , it's funny that Beerus suddenly wakes up and then that will line up very well to okay , kid Buu has been defeated , now Beerus has come to Earth trying to find the Super Saiyan God that was supposed to snuff him out .

Isn't it really funny how the events would all lined up like almost immediately after each other , but also the way you made that sound it almost as if they allowed all this chaos because when Beerus is out we need candidates for a substitute pseudo God of Destruction .

And it seems like out of the bunch , frieza , kid Buu and now Vegeta is like candidates for the next God of Destruction , in case Beerus is gonna need to be out of the picture . So that's the whole thing . It was like it would line up so well . I was like holy shit , this may be like the most epic coincidence to where he all my every day .

So he may not intend for it to happen , but the way he lined it up it was like , bro , it's like the plot is writing itself . Yeah , it's thinking and writing itself . Yes .

things were lined up .

Because , yes , technically Beerus waking up would have happened right after Kai , old Kai was unsealed from Z-Sword and that could have been the reason , because we understand that Elder Kai , before he wound up fusing with the old witch , he was supposed to be the next Supreme Kai and then he also , and even after he had merged with the old hag and wound up

becoming like the Elder Kai that he was , he already had met with Beerus and he and Beerus did not get along . Beerus wound up sealing him because Beerus couldn't kill him . But then everyone was confused like why is it that Beerus couldn't kill you ? Because even Goku would have been confused , like I could kill you . You're not really that strong .

You're not really that strong . I'm significantly stronger than you . I could kill you pretty easily . Why couldn't he kill you ? And they never answered that question and it wasn't being the aspect . So why couldn't Beerus kill you ? Because Beerus kills him . Oh , so you wound up sealing away your own Kai to protect yourself . Now everyone already knows that point .

You sealed away your own Kai to protect yourself , because you knew , for one , your Kai was weak , for second , you and your Kai did not get along . If y'all don't get along , you can't really protect him . He's going to do stuff that you don't want him to do per se and you're going to do stuff that he doesn't want you to do .

Things do not line up very well . How do you fix this ? I seal you away , but unknowingly in me , sealing you away , I'm tired . No , I'm just taking that . And it might just be about 100 years , 10,000 years later . What the fuck ? This would be that perfect moment to where , literally , like you could have , oh man , resting piece Robin Williams .

But Robin Williams is genie . 10,000 years gives you such a good the back . But yeah , when you keep a mind on that , especially understanding what the events are , super understanding that aspect that , because beers are sealed away , there still has to be destruction and creation , destruction and creation .

And Xeno and his angel , the head angel , has been keeping track of all the universes that have been properly doing it and obviously universe seven had not been properly doing it Because beers was in such a long slumber that he couldn't wake up from and all the guys knew he was asleep .

No one really wanted to wake him up , but then at the same time they realized they couldn't wake him up , so they had to allow other beings to do this destruction . The problem was Majin Buu wound up getting a little bit too much into himself . He started attacking the guys as well .

Okay , now you fucking with the gods , now we got to put it into you and then realize oh wait , living in the chaotic timeline . It's like oh wait , no , this nigga strong , hold on . We kind of see this in the fucking way , something is wrong here , and literally to the point that he was killed all of the guys .

And the only reason that he wound up not even not killing all the guys , was because the grand elder guy wound up allowing himself to be absorbed but using his own god energy .

You know kind of put that mental limiter inside of Buu , which still was , which is the main reason why , even though Buu technically evil Buu absorbed fat Buu , he technically reabsorbed himself . That's the reason why Majin Buu was still inside of the body that way .

That's the reason why Super Buu never fully like integrated him they're fully like incense digested him out . He still needed him whole in order for him to have some form of sanity , and Super Buu knew this . So then when Majin Buu gets taken out , the grand Kai that's still there gets taken out . He loses that mental state .

Now , one thing that is mentioned also in the moral art , which was very interesting in itself to kid Buu still had a power boost that we didn't really know about . So keep in mind also that kid Buu that you know Goku and Vegeta fought is still technically stronger than the kid Buu . That would have been on from a long time ago .

And the reason I say this is this in the moral art remember how they had to defeat Moro was the fact that , you know , first off , grand supreme Kai reawakened himself inside of Buu and he went and found Uub , because he admitted that his god power was inside of kid Buu .

And then , okay , we need like this spirit bomb to kind of destroy him , like no , no , not spirit bomb , all that spirit avatar that Goku pulled off and okay , we need a little bit more energy . And then our boy , uub , putting his hand up and I was like , here you go bro .

And I find that still interesting in that aspect because I'm like okay , so you pretty much admitted that the kid Buu that y'all got wiped with was probably significantly weaker than kid Buu that y'all fought , that Goku Gita had to fight , so that in itself had that been really like , admitted more into the story , which of course , they didn't really think that they

were going to admit . More gods , there was no storyline for God of Destruction by the time that you know Dragon Ball Z ended and stuff . There was no real storyline for that . So it's understandable , but so they tried to incorporate this course .

Maybe he got a little Zenkai boost when he was getting his ass kicked .

So then now my favorite part of the whole kid Buu arc itself was the fact that , like in CJ I love to see J I also did a great job in mentioning this point to this man . He successfully destroyed the earth and of course , we have this point where we're going to talk about this .

People really was like go cool , you will fuck shit , dan , you saved her cure over your own boys .

They can be wished back , that is okay , they can be wished back . But the thing about it is Goku didn't explain this plan to nobody . You made this plan but you didn't tell nobody . So the only thing that you see , let your kids die .

We're supposed to know , oh , we're getting in the Batmobile . All of a sudden you disappear . You're in , the Batmobile starts up . You couldn't say some shit , I don't know it .

And so when Batman had to talk to him , then it wanted to be at that point of like okay , see , explaining shit makes things easier , talking makes things easier . When you refuse to talk , what the fuck are we supposed to do ? We were fucked .

I'm going to kill you before Kid Blue does . You're not going to make it . You may have just gotten this life back from this elder Kai , which is awesome , something we're going to discuss .

And I was like , uh well , I didn't want to worry any of y'all about the details , but yeah .

Honestly , that's one of the biggest issues that we still have with , like you know , technically , with like our generation and our parents generation .

Our parents had to just figure stuff out , and then our generation we get looked down upon for trying to explain and teach things to the kids and it's like y'all talking too much and not being more parent and like we're parenting differently . Because we didn't like that . You just threw us out there and was like you'll figure it out . We didn't like that .

We appreciated to be explained to us so we can have an understanding . We are smart , Our children are smart , Our children's children are smart .

Now I will say I do understand and I will explain that to my kids . I say my kids , I need to be quiet right now . I will go back to them because my mom used to do this to me and there's one of these that absolutely appreciate . I will go back to them and let them know .

Hey , the reason I needed you to be quiet , for whether , whatever the reason may be was like you're talking over me , you're not letting me explain what I need to explain to this person . I need you to back down and just listen for a moment .

Or I just need you to back down because this is a conversation between me and him , or me and her , and you were interrupted per se , or it may even be one of those things like this is not something you're going to understand , like I could try to explain it to you , but you're only so , so age , you're not going to understand it yet .

So it's one of those things that just kind of need you to back down for a moment because , since you don't understand it , you'll have a bunch of questions that , even though I'll answer it , still won't make sense to me .

Like I go back and I explain that to my kids and they still don't always understand it , but they appreciate that I do talk to them and they know that I'm going to talk to them . You build that type of trust versus just like stay out of growth , those business , be quiet and then you just leave alone . That's it .

So at that point your kids no longer want to talk to you because they think your business is none of their business whatsoever . Why should they talk to you ? That means that my business is none of your business either . Your kids will not want to share their business with you If you don't share business with them . They don't understand that .

But again , one of those different things is important to have communication . As much as I hate that , all the new villains nowadays and all these movies as always the villains , not the person but you should have just explained it versus the fact that no , understand that there are truly just evil people out there . There's some jokers out there .

You still need to fuck them up . They still going to get fucked up . There's still . There's still evil people out there . Is it all the time ? No , no , I understand Sometimes it's better to explain things . But then there are some people that even if you explain it to them , they were still going to do the most fucked up decision . That's just what it is .

Some people just do it anyway , unfortunately , but yeah , but yeah . That's just pretty much like the main thing for Goku , had you explained it . But after they leave , kid blue blows up the planet . Of course he reforms himself and they're like so he just blow up planets , blow himself up , and to reform because he doesn't care , and it's like of course not .

Unless you destroy , just like with cell , actually a little bit more than cell you have to destroy every single atom , every single molecule that makes him up , because if you leave just one , he will regrow his own , because if you leave just one , he will regrow back and then like it's just like fucking cell . And I'm probably so dangerous yeah .

He was getting frustrated that Goku was beating him and he was basically being , like you know , with a straight face and it's like , oh , you think , now that you're Super Saiyan , you're better than me , I own you . I own this planet . You're playing it , I own this planet .

In fact , fuck this planet , and that's just a maddened at how I feel about module blue right now . It's like you know what . Fuck this planet and just blow it up .

I'm going to go to the afterlife and find them .

Actually , I don't think it was just one , I think he burnt more than one person , but he literally just sprayed up , obliterated some people and they were just like , oh my God , he killed us even in the afterlife . Yeah , if we die in the afterlife , there's no coming back . Hey , that's it .

He was like holy shit , he's just walking through , just climbing through , like you can sign up , y'all motherfuckers . Who was the last bitch one here today ? Let's figure this out , I thought you were going to be like .

It was like , oh my God , if we do not get him out of there , that's all right . Now , oh my God , oh my God , if we do not get him out of there , he is going to kill everyone there . There's going to be no way to bring people back . The world will be , the entire universe will be off balance and destroyed .

Goku's like okay , we have no choice , we need to let him know that we are here . He unleashes his energy and then Kibu's like oh wait , my smoke is here . I still remember literally like that was one of the best things about boo

. Boo went looking for smoke all the time , straight up , like no debate , no question about it . Every time he went somewhere , he was like hey , hey , hey , you promised me an ass woman , I'm waiting , I'm waiting for it to be delivered . Where yet ?

He's like I've laid the stage , I'm standing right here . Feel free to come at any time . Feel free coming anytime . I am here , ready and waiting , and just posted up there for 10 days until some people showed up . Kid boo was like with the smoke there's fire , let me start bringing the smoke to them and just ran over everywhere .

He's like we're going here , we're going here , we're going here , we're going here . Hey , haven't seen you in a while . We're coming here too . This is straight up , and then we will finally get the fight . So then we have the understanding why it is that Goku , why it was that Goku had to save Hercule .

And it wasn't the fact of Goku's immediate decision into this , it was all just plot . He needed Hercule alive . So that way , when they brought back Planet Earth , they had to have their champion say give me your energy , so that way they can finally obliterate boo , it was all for the plot . We made Goku look like a bad dad , just for the plot .

I don't know how to feel about that .

And though his Super Saiyan 3 may not be as strong as Goku's Super Saiyan 3 .

But also nowadays he's being chewed out because the plot demanded it .

And he's also a good person overall . I don't think he's the whole thing , with him being a bad father and a bad husband .

It's like , yeah , it looks bad , but at the same time , I feel like because of what he really does for the planet , fighting all these different enemies and trying to destroy the planet and mash it and all that shit , it's like he's being a superhero .

But he's also catching flag for not being available enough to his family , and I know that looks bad and I'm like you know what . I'm not going to even argue against that anymore , but all I'm saying is , at least the whole time I was thinking hold on , to be fair , just to be fair .

There's a lot of reasons why he might have did what he did , but then there's just something to just make no sense at all . That could have been all avoided . But then again , this reinforce the whole point that I'm trying to make . To where do you blame the character or do you blame the writing ? I wouldn't say the actor .

It was like a movie , but in this case it's an anime character .

Then the biggest point in understanding is like okay , as far as making them relatable is , the actor's job is to make them realistic . That's what I mean when I say not relatable . So let me change it to realistic . Does the character feel realistic ?

But if the character does not feel like , if you can't really understand the character like at all from any point standard , it was not written well , so Goku's decisions make absolutely no sense . That wasn't the character , that's the writing .

You know like how , back in the day where Bulma was willing to let him pick a pig her panties and he was like why do I need to look at your dirty old fanny ? I was like he's not being mean , he's just being honest and it's kind of cute in that way . And it's like , bro , like you don't say that , but it was kind of cute in a way .

So we kind of like thought it was funny , but that's just the whole thing . It's like Goku means well , but ultimately the writing is making him look bad .

Maybe in a few years I might be more comfortable talking about that situation , but I've been trying to avoid talking about that on the podcast Understood , understood , understood , but yeah , is this one of those cases , I'll give you a hand , though . I'll give you a hand though Aquaman too .

There's no reasoning whatsoever . But they wind up putting to that point of reiterating the kid party boo . That was probably the only thing that irritated me a little bit , because when he's first introduced he's no nonsense whatsoever , there was no trying to ballot out with him , it was just destruction and that's all . He was just nothing but pure destruction .

But then , once you know he finds his way there , he still kind of has that little mindset . You know , told me I was going to give me a good fight and so then he's like I'm going to try to play with you per se , and then he winds up , you know , somewhat enjoying it a little bit , he falls asleep . I think twice , let me see .

Because when he fights Goku first , then he fights Majin Buu , which was very short , then he fights Goku again , then he fights Vegeta and just straight up like that beat down Vegeta was . It was unnecessary , it was very much yeah , but you know what ?

Star was Cell was beating go , was beating Gohan and then , like Team Four Star said , he was like , oh and no , goku's in here , like I'm looking at his go hunt , he's doing proud I'm , so he's making me so proud . Like he's getting his ass handed to him out there .

And then the cell is beating up go hunt and he's like thinking of you , goku , why he's just straight up beating the shit out of go . Literally , you see Kibble do the same thing . He just decimates Vegeta and like looks over to Goku , like can I go back to fighting you now , because this was boring ?

But I will say the main thing that really gets you , the biggest thing that iterates as far as like the opposite of chaos , is understanding , as far as about true pride . And when I say that you see this happen again in super , when Vegeta winds up facing off against Toppo , against God of destruction , if you use go on Toppo or candidate Toppo , so okay .

But when you see this is the same thing that kind of happens happens to Toppo gets just frustrated with it . But it becomes very different for Kibble , where Kibble literally was scared for a moment because he absolutely decimated Vegeta .

Like literally Vegeta should have been dead per se , because even Kibble I think Kibble thought he did kill him at this point , but then it was just that point he's like okay , he should pretty much be dead . And then Vegeta still not only gets up , not only talk shit , he stands up and says I'm not done yet , I ain't done yet .

Bring that ass back here , we ain't done yet . And so it was that one moment . He was the only person that actually made Kibble afraid . Kibble had never been afraid like ever before , and so that's one of the craziest things about it . When you beat like , you hear this happen about all the time .

As far as bullies back in , like those old movies you know the old 80s movies , 90s movies and stuff where the bullies beating down the hero but the hero comes back up again , the bully gets scared because of like how , how are you still standing ?

You should stay down , you should still be down or something like that , and Kibble doesn't say anything , he just makes noises . So the fact of the matter , you still , he still had a moment of being scared where he was like how , how is he still getting up ?

And it's one of the only win moments that Vegeta has throughout the entire kid boot part was the fact that he was able to stall while Goku was da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da , I'm a charge in my attack spirit bomb .

So I literally I do wish T4 Star would have animated , it would have been able to do it . So that would have been so perfect . Because that happens throughout the Dragon Balls franchise so much . It's always your charging , your attack and somebody's got to stall , right , that happens so much . But yeah , so literally that becomes the point of .

Actually , I will say after Dragon Ball Z it does become more martial arts infused instead of like Key Blast , key Blast , key Blast . I will say that much there are more fights when it comes down to Super . I will admit into that aspect .

So , but yeah , like he gets to win for being able to stall long enough , because he did , he was able to stall long enough , while also , at the same time , he gets to win for , you know , actually making Kid Buu afraid . You know the fact that he's like I have beaten you down to where you should be , nothing and yet you still stand to oppose me .

Like you have some feelings that are like . I applaud you . I did not think that you were this strong . You have got my respect for the fact that you didn't just bow down . You still . You were able to still get up . However , I'm going to have to kill you now because nobody gets up from one of my beatings . That's not how this works .

But you know , luckily Vegeta did not get killed , came close but luckily he did not get killed . Now we'll say I only have one other thing that I actually did want to try to briefly mention real quick , and that was about the spirit bomb itself . So it had been a long time since we've seen the spirit bomb .

We didn't see the spirit bomb was sell like throughout the entire Salsaka whatsoever . But we get the spirit bomb again , because now we understand the true purpose of the spirit bomb . Because I'll say , in this aspect , the spirit bomb didn't work against Frieza and you could argue the fact that it's because it wasn't strong enough .

But I couldn't necessarily say that the spirit bomb is nothing supposed to be but pure positive energy whatsoever . What I really think is the fact that I kind of want to say Frieza , even though he's evil per se , is more so .

He's just prideful , because he prides himself heavily on the fact that he was stronger than everybody else and he would get humbled a little bit in the fact that Goku managed to become stronger than him .

So you can't necessarily say all the way that Frieza was fully evil per se , and that's probably why , even though the spirit bomb did decimate him , it did definitely do a significant amount of damage .

It didn't kill him , but I'm not sure the only person the spirit bomb successfully eliminated was Kid Boo , and Kid Boo , because it was nothing but pure chaos and evil . Of course the spirit bomb would eradicate him . You just straight up attacked nothing but Frieza with positrons .

If only that one technique that you had , like Starter's Break , I think it was . The way it works is that it only eradicates people of pure evil . If it didn't have that one thing , gojira would have probably won . And it feels like the same thing right here . To where , with Goku , with the spirit bomb . The spirit bomb is more effective .

It's more effective on people that are pure evil .

Why is it that Goku can't use the spirit bomb while he's super sacred ? Yeah , you have that about that .

Spirit bomb is supposed to be nothing but pure energy , pure positive energy . Can you truly be a positive person while you're enraged ? No , not at all . So anytime Goku is about to use the spirit bomb , what he has to do first is calm himself . He has to remove all those negative thoughts , the negative energy , the negative mindset .

So he has to calm himself first . Then he's able to gather all the positive energy to be able to do something . So something to keep in mind is the fact that there's a what now ? Time .

Super Saiyan 3 is the strongest rage form . This dude is practically poking out . However , anger is the strongest rage form this dude is practically poking out . However , anger against Chaos doesn't work . Anger vs Chaos does not work . It will not yield any type of positive results whatsoever . So he realizes I have to destroy pure evil or pure positive .

So he winds up saying I need to gather energy from all across the universe , from all the planets that have not been destroyed yet .

Well , technically they had already wished back planet Earth , so I'm pretty sure they were able to wish back the other planets too , but they wound up having to gather energy from all across the universe , from the entire planet Earth , in order to try to actually finally kill Kibbut per se .

But yeah , that was one theory that I also wanted to talk about as well too . In fact that literally you cannot see Goku use the Spirit Bomb in any type of Super Saiyan 4 whatsoever .

And if you pay attention also to even all the Dragon Ball Z games like if you look back at every single game that you've ever played that Budokai , tenkaiichi , even the Game Boy , advance games what was it ? Zenkai Fighter , stuff like that literally base Goku's ultimate attack is the Spirit Bomb .

The Spirit Bomb is not used in any other form whatsoever , and that's the thing that he has to call himself first .

use a variation of the Spirit Bomb , like you see in Dragon Ball Z Universe 2 , but also the Spirit Avatar thing that probably he can only use . That if he's in Master Ultra Instinct , which again he has to be totally calm .

In that aspect it's slightly different than that , but I do understand he would have to still be , yes , in a variation of Ultra Instinct in order to truly calm himself , so that way he could have that moment of access again .

And , yeah , you can even say that that Avatar , being technically his own God version of himself , can only be achieved through calmness , which is also the biggest thing about the Spirit Bomb .

So , yeah , there's a whole lot of theories when it comes down to the Spirit techniques and I call them Spirit techniques because it's very clear that you have to be in some form of spirit to be able to do it , but that is all that I have . See , I like the Kid Boussaga , as you can tell . I like it . There's a lot of aspects into it .

I'm thinking , maybe it's probably going to be late , oh , late , late , but because I was planning on doing X-Men this year , but instead let's put that off to next year for Deadpool 3 to come out . And then , as far as this year , I'm thinking , okay , so I got nothing .

As far as for the Academy Zone thing , I was thinking , might your academia might as well go ahead and tackle that , so that might be our next big extreme review later on . But yeah , with that being said , thank you for listening to the episode . Share this episode if you like it . Leave some feedback if you like . You know my and you know , stay frosty .

Cool things are coming and we're going to go ahead and zone out now Y'all , take it easy .