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Avatar: The Last Airbender: A Certified American Anime

Jun 20, 20241 hr 44 minSeason 14Ep. 20
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Have you ever wondered why “Avatar: The Last Airbender” still resonates with fans, old and new alike? Join us as we reminisce on the timeless allure of this iconic series alongside our guests, Kokugatsu and Saitama Smash. We recount our personal cosplay escapades, the show's unparalleled storytelling, and how today’s youth are just as captivated as we were. We even engage in a fun debate about whether “Avatar” qualifies as anime or American animation, and we land on the term "American anime."

Our conversation goes deep, exploring the complex character arcs and the cultural impact of “Avatar.” We discuss initial character inspirations, critical behind-the-scenes decisions, and the themes of war, genocide, and free will that earned the show its numerous accolades. Delving into Aang’s and Zuko’s transformative journeys, we highlight how ethical firebending and Aang’s commitment to non-violence shape their paths. With humor and insight, we ponder what-if bending scenarios and debate our favorite elemental powers.

From Toph’s groundbreaking metal bending to the emotional highs and lows of episodes like “Appa's Lost Days,” we leave no stone unturned. We dive into the significance of flames' colors and the psychological undertones of characters like Azula and Katara. Wrapping up with reflections on modern kids' exposure to mature content and the timeless humor of running gags like “My cabbages!,” we offer a heartfelt appreciation of one of the greatest animated series of all time. Tune in for a blend of nostalgic memories, thought-provoking commentary, and a celebration of “Avatar: The Last Airbender.”

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Avatar

Speaker 1

hello , what's good everybody . It's jeff black extreme and we are back at it again with another episode of the zone podcast . Today's topic is the legendary avatar , the last airbender , and , by the way , we're not really going to talk about the live action , like maybe in passing .

But fuck all that , we're going to focus on the animation and , without further ado , let's get active . Oh , my fucking god , I remember as a kid it was like I had my ratatouille moment to where , when I was getting prepared for this review , I felt like I went back in time back when I was like what , 11 , 12 ?

I know , it was like middle school when Avatar the Last Airbender was just popping off and I was like yo , the music , the themes , the characters , the fights , my emotions , and to this day it all holds up up and I'm very glad about that .

Now , if y'all have heard my madam webb review , then that was my first time ever going by the grade system , to where I kind of moved on from the star system and started doing the grade system . Now , this is definitely a plus . Fuck all that .

Uh , you got a problem with after last and better , um , go argue with your mama about it , because this is a certified goaded anime . And yes , I said anime because a lot of folks like to say it's anime based on the art style , even though it was made in america , or at least an american studio .

I'm maybe misremembering , but I wouldn't say it's an anime from japan . But we'll call it an american anime regardless , because I know guys like professor tuck will fight you to death on oh , you say it's not an anime . I'm like can we say American anime ? At least let's go with that . Okay , are you happy ? Now Fuck ?

Speaker 2

It is Western-style anime and it's still great .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , I'm not doubting , but technically no , but I'll count it as an American anime . Damn right With that being said we got Kogagasu and Saitama Smash making his return to the zone podcast .

Speaker 2

What's poppin' everybody ? Without further ado gentlemen , how are ?

Speaker 1

you feeling about Avatar the Last Airbender ?

Speaker 3

Amazing . There's no question into that . It's an awesome show . It's literally got it's got so many good ratings on the show that it spanned like generations . It's something that literally now little kids now will still watch . You can go on netflix and still watch the whole series and you're going to enjoy it , your kids are going to enjoy it . My kids enjoy it .

It's one of those ones that my son has the um . He has uh hang airbender shoes that we wound up getting from . We wound up getting a converse set and literally he went to school one day and then on the way back on the bus his little friend was like hey , you watch avatar last airbender . Oh , I love that show . He's in second grade .

It's like , literally , kids today love it , parents love it . It has great elements , story development . These characters go through so much . They build . It's fantastic . You can find a favorite character and watch them grow , watch them develop from early on .

And I will say one thing , something that my wife has always said , as she's currently watching Naruto right now these kids go through a fucking lot like , oh my gosh , they go through so much , but at the same time it's still one of those things that's like you get a chance to really see that growth and see how it changes the world , how everything is affected

like it's just , it's awesome you know what we got to .

Speaker 1

On that note , one person said that naruto essentially was a story about child soldiers and I've never been the same since I mean , it's the truth , because ninjas go through pretty much go through what spartans go through .

Speaker 3

You go through that stuff as a child . The only difference is Spartans are thrown into the forest and you just had to make it back by yourself . Versus , like the ninjas are like we're going to help you back , but you know , if you happen to just die on the way back , that's just because you suck . You weren't meant to be again in your tree .

Speaker 2

And Aang was just thrown into that like hey , here's a war . You're 12 years old . You got about less than a year to learn all more elements , Peace .

Speaker 1

And then you're like I don't want to do all that . I don't really feel like it .

Speaker 2

But I don't really feel like it . I don't want to .

Speaker 3

I mean you're telling me my entire life is dedicated To this 10 year old getting off his ass and doing something . I'm gonna be honest with you we're dead . You put that like modern day , gen A standard bro , gen Alpha , nah , we dead .

Speaker 1

Oh lord , we're in the day and age when Gen Alphaphas now a thing we are .

Speaker 3

Yeah , somehow or another it started over from gen z and went back to gen .

Speaker 2

A wait till we get to gen betas you , you tell me that the fate of the entire world is in my hands and I have to learn these awesome , magical superpowers by like the end of the year , or else this lord , actual lord , is gonna take over the world and probably burn it to ashes do I still have ?

Speaker 1

time to play Skyrim you know what , based on canon events , I consider Ozai the false king , like I'm just gonna call him the false king pretty much throughout this review because , let's be real , like his father wanted Iroh to be the Fire Lord , but Ozai was like , nah , I'm not having that , I'm gonna kill you in your sleep and tell everybody that they made me

. You made me the new fire lord too much he fought man .

Speaker 2

I miss the show actually on a fun note , I actually cosplayed as Aang when I was younger and I went to a cosplay competition and I got into third place and the first place was Katara and I wanted to fucking cry .

Speaker 3

Are you ?

Speaker 2

fucking kidding me .

Speaker 3

It's Katara , bro . I'm not gonna lie to you . Aang is dope , but like it's Katara , Like but she was also

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gorgeous . It was a gorgeous woman almost definitely based off of like in a lot based off like the , on the last two natives , like was it she was . She was based on the character design was based on Alaskan natives and Native Americans , but I'm part Cherokee . American women are beautiful but like gorgeous .

Speaker 2

I didn't know that you were part Cherokee .

Speaker 1

As part Blackwood , I agree .

Speaker 3

Right . So I'm just saying , like this is real , bro , like I got my kids is gorgeous , man , like my , both my daughters are beautiful . I'm looking at them , just like y'all are just gorgeous . You know what I'm just saying . Well , I ain't even hyping them up , just being honest . But for real , though , it's Katara .

Now , on a not-so-fun note , there are some things that we are happy that they didn't make changes onto , which you know we may wind up making a mention to the live action show anyway that there was some things that wound up happening from the original writers because most people did not know that a lot of the original writers had won some not a lot but some

of the original writers had left . They didn't like the development and how the story was changing . Some of them stayed . Most of them stayed because they did appreciate . So some of the things that wound up changing is iroh is the absolute one of the best characters in the show . There's no debating it .

But understand his entire development was almost ruined by one man , one dude had it written to what it was .

Is that at towards the end of the bat , towards the end , when they're invading the fire nation , that iroh was going to backstab zuko literally and stab him in the back and kill him because he betrayed fire lord ozai , because he is , was supposed to be a double secret agent and it's just one of those things .

I'm just like that would have completely , completely ruined people . Everybody trusted iron . You're telling me that we would have went through one , two , three , four seasons I mean technically it's only when only went through three books . There was a whole fourth book that never got animated but literally went through three whole books .

And you're telling me at the end of this , we were just going to watch iroh betray zuko . At the end all of this development saying I love it . Yeah , yeah , people was like , yeah , I would have been . People said I would have trust issues .

At that point I built my trust based on iroh , literally a person who was like I make mistakes and yet I could still come back to you and you say that I still love you and I appreciate you . I was just upset that you had lost your way and understand that that whole speech would have meant something completely different .

Right now it means lose your way as far as like going to the right path of doing the right thing , and that whole thing would have been . I was afraid you had lost your way , but I could see you did lose your way and you actually did want to betray your father . You never came back and then just would have stabbed him right then .

And there I was like , oh my god , are you serious ?

Speaker 1

zuko got betrayed by his dad and his uncle on that note , let's go ahead and talk a little bit about what avatar the last airbender is about . Then I'll hand it back to you guys .

Like I said , avatar the last airbender was a rating success , like critical claim and all that , whether it's from its cultural references , art direction , voice acting , soundtrack , humor , themes and the series themes , by the way , included um touched on , like youth entertainment , like war , genocide , imperialism , totalitarianism , indoctrination , free choice , free will .

It won , like five , any awards a genesis award , a prime time emmy award , a kid's choice award and a p-bite award . This show is decorated to the nines with accolades and let's go ahead and talk about just a little bit . So , excuse me , I'm had something .

So avatar set in a asianic like world , you know like a little chinese , you know a sort of kind of sort of , and of course you have the four nations , you know the arab nomads , you have the uh earth kingdom , you have , uh , the water tribe and the fire nation and of course , like they say in the intro , you know these four elements and these four nations

was living in harmony , but then everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked . So we have Aang , who wasn't really feeling his Avatar duties because , you know , it was forced upon him .

So he was like you know what I'm going to dip , what I'm gonna dip , and he went out into the ocean , you know , ran away with oppa , the flying bison , like creature , like what was he ? The fusion of a bison and what else I'm gonna say ? Like not really a platypus , but like it has .

Speaker 2

Like a platypus , but you know what he has like a beaver like a beaver tail on the . It has like a beaver tail .

Speaker 1

On the back , yeah , like a beaver tail . That's what I'm going for , essentially . They got caught up in a storm and they were like Near drowning and decided you know what ? I got an idea . Let me just encase myself in ice . And he was asleep for 100 years Up until Katara and Sasaka Found him Floating in the ice and decided to free him .

And that's pretty much where the story began , where , essentially , while Aang is Trying to Prepare to defeat Fire Lord Zai before he conquers the world using the Souls in Common , which happens during the Summer Solstice and while that's going on at first , keep in mind , aang may be the central character , but this is also the story of zuko , the exiled prince of

the fire nation , trying to hunt down the avatar to restore his lost honor , um , from his father . But let's be honest , like the false king is a fucking dick and I don't care what anybody else says . Azula is just as bad , if not worse , but I guess I get the attraction for some fans . I kinda get it , but I know the crazier she is , the meaner the .

You know what I mean . That's a little too crazy for me , especially near the end where she was like getting real paranoid , where to a point where , oh no , I need to fire all y'all because y'all gonna just turn on me . Either y'all gonna turn on me now or y'all gonna turn on me later . I can't risk that . Y'all need all y'all need to get the fuck out .

And then she was like trying to fix up her hair and whatnot . And then it's like , oh fuck , all this just started cutting up , like she was just having like uh , a mental breakdown . Saw her a vision of her mother , and I was like , oh , you always hated me , didn't you ?

And uh , her mother was like no , I always loved you , baby , you just scared the shit out of me .

Speaker 2

Well , she scared the shit out of everybody like everybody , she scared the shit out of everybody . Everybody knew that she was batshit crazy , even when she was a kid . She would use animals as target factors and she oh you know , that's usually .

Speaker 1

That was like Jeff Dahmer type shit . I'm just saying .

Speaker 3

This is true . Also , one of the things I really love into the story is the fact that originally , zuko was not going to be in the story , but in order to give some type of development for the characters before they wind up fighting against Ozai , they needed some type of protagonist that was going to like serve in place because they hid Ozai he .

They needed some type of protagonist that was going to serve in place because they hid Ozai . He was hidden throughout most of the first book until we finally got a chance to see him towards the end of the season and so getting a chance to understand that Zuko and Azula Zuko was made to be that protagonist .

And then people fell in love with Zuko for literally the same thing that happened to Bakugo . Zuko was not supposed to get a redemption arc , as I already had mentioned before , anyway supposed to be betrayed and stuff .

Speaker 1

Um , he was not really supposed to get a redemption arc and so because people the fans love zuko and wanted to see him better is why we wound up getting a zula because we needed to have another antagonist to keep things going , hold on , I feel all that , but at the same time , I'm starting to detect a pattern going on , because we talked about this with zuko

, now we talked about this with parker girl and we definitely talked about this with vegeta . I'm getting a pattern to where it's like oh you got that bad boy , anti-hero type character and the fans be like I say we need to give him a chance .

And then that's funny too , because uncle alvaro said himself that everyone deserved a chance to redeem themselves , which is fair , but the coincidence of it , though , no , no , it's not even coincidence , it's literally just a thing .

Speaker 3

That's what fans like to do . A lot of fans like to do that . And let's be honest , if I mean skip absolutely loves bakugou she's not on right now , but we know she defends him like no other Absolutely to the T . I like Vegeta , so it's like you know , yeah .

Speaker 1

I mean , yeah , like I like Vegeta too . There's just something about where I'm like I kind of like I like Vegeta too . Like there's just something about when I'm like I kind of like how inspirational he can be at Times .

You know , like some of the speeches that you have where like okay , maybe Not exactly A shining Beacon of you know like Righteousness of course , but like Sometimes the shit he says , I'm like I kind of feel that though .

Speaker 3

Something I'm actually curious about is the reason that and I'm going to use this as a per example for everybody , because if you caught up in the manga , so I'm not going to spoil it if you caught up in the manga on my Hero Academia , you're going to probably want to obviously say no to this , so I'm not going to use that as an example to this , so I'm

not going to use that as an example . But with goku and with um vegeta , I see , with goku and vegeta and with um , I guess aang and zuko kind of what if the reason our characters became extra goofy was because they gave all those serious notes to this character that was supposed to be like a villain that fans wanted to be redeemed and stuff .

So they gave them speeches , they gave those moments to those characters , but probably was originally supposed to be for the main character and they had nothing for the main character , so they made him extra goofy .

Speaker 1

Let me tell you right now . There are some characters that are written as black characters , like I said before with Goku to where he's the type same thing with Aang , by the way . Goku and Aang are those type of characters to where they're so solid right out of the gate .

They don't need a whole lot of character development , except for when the plot demands that they have to like either become stronger or they get challenged by like okay , what if you like become evil ? Like what if you have to like kill a man and whatnot ? And then essentially , their character is being challenged by the world .

But they're so solid that I'm like , well , damn , like you know what ?

Maybe you taught me a lesson , like how , when he , the Guru , episodes where Aang wanted to enter the Avatar state , to master the Avatar state , and he was going through all the hoops and hurdles up until he got to the point where he needs to lose his attachment to Katara and you know , love and all that shit , you know like go full monk mode .

And Aang was not really feeling that and he pretty much dipped , and even though the guru said , oh well , you'll never achieve your avatar state if you leave , and I'm like , nah , fuck all that I'll find another way , and he eventually does .

And then , once again , the MVP , uncle Iroh Aang , was talking to Iroh about it and he was , like it's very commendable that you chose love over power and perfection , true .

So my point being is that Goku and Aang , like , even though Goku's like an idiot , but he's an endearing idiot like even though goku's like an idiot , but he's an endearing idiot , he's the kind of idiot to where it's like , okay , you're so nice and friendly , it's almost like I kind of want to be more like you , but you know , goku just built different , like

that . But the point being that I was trying to make is that , while those two characters are flat character arcs , vegeta and zuko are positive change art characters to where they're the ones supposed to like , uh , challenge the life that they believed in all those years ago . Same thing with Vegeta , same thing with Zuko .

To where they believe that , um , they need to redeem themselves , um , for the sake of their pride , because , you know , both of them being princes and eventually they had to realize that they need to let some shit go and choose peace and all the other shit .

You know how , like Vegeta , the culmination of his care development was I , I would say arguably in the Majin Buu saga . Even though there were some precursors in the Cell saga , it was mainly taking place in the Majin Buu saga , and Zuko was right .

I want to say it was like in the beginning of season three , but it was more like okay , it started off with cutting their ponytails , all right , and then he let go of this persona of the blue spirit .

Ponytails all right , and then he let go of this persona of the blue spirit and essentially , after all this flip flop back and forth , he eventually started to realize the error of his ways and how he shouldn't be trying to get the validation of his father , but rather he needs to , uh , realize that he was good enough already .

So he doesn't really need his father To tell him that he's good enough , even though you know , like I said , the false king is an asshole anyway . So why do you care for his validation ? If anything ? Iroh said it himself . Well , zuko and Iroh both said it , but essentially Iroh is more of a father To Zuko than Ozai is . So that's their arc .

Speaker 2

True of a father to Zuko than Ozai is , so that's their arc .

Discussion on Avatar

Speaker 3

True , yeah , having a chance to have a dynamic character like Zuko , and I guess it was me aside having the static . But I will say I don't think Aang was so static enough , I think he still became dynamic .

Speaker 1

Yeah , he had some dynamic moments , but it's more like he was already a solid kid to begin with . He just needed a little more development . You know he was already on the right path , but he just needed more , just a little more .

Speaker 3

He didn't need a whole lot , but a little more and then also having that applause towards the end where he still stayed true to who he was , at the very end where everybody is like you're gonna have to kill this nigga . The very end where everybody is like you're gonna have to kill this nigga , you're gonna have to kill him , you're gonna have to kill him .

And he's like , no , there's nothing but violence , because violence , because violence . There is another option . I'm gonna figure this shit out . And you know , luckily , with the whole lion turtle situation , you know , he got an opportunity to be like oh , this is how I , how I'm going to do it .

And he's like I removed your bending , the lion turtles gave bending and I have the power , just like the lion turtles , to give and take bending away . And then I'm sitting here like for me it was one of those moments I'm like you have the power to give bending , so I could .

Probably was like yo , my nigga kid I , oh , I think I saw a little comic book where someone did that too . Can you temporarily give me the ability to bend stuff ? Just temporarily give me the ability to bend fire , or something like that . I just want to try it out for one time . It was a funny little comic that someone had made , but like For real though .

Give me some powers . I've been walking around here half-dead , half-died , all this damn time . Could you give me some powers ?

Speaker 1

You know what ? On that note , you just brought up a good question that I have . I'm going to get back to you . But I want to ask Saitama , saitama , if you could have any form of bending , any one form of bending like , even if you can like be able to deviate and make those different forms like just based on the four core elements .

Which bender would you rather be ?

Speaker 2

A defender and without , without any myths , there ain't going to be no pause here . It's going to be an offender . They have two subclasses and , with that being said , out of those two subclasses , I would have loved . Okay , fine , metalbending is cool and all . I think it's actually pretty cool . If you would have metalbending now , you'd be Magneto .

Speaker 3

Ha ha , ha , ha , I mean you can't fully say into that , because there is a limitation to metalbending . Once it's kind of left your grasp it still has to be like because , with it being kind of a form of earth bending , it still has to be like within range , like within a certain amount of range for you for it to kind of work out .

So I won't fully say magneto , but I mean technically we had , like I know , when I was talking about Legend of Korra had , I mean , top did make that develop and the only difference is that bag you don't can bend flat exactly .

Speaker 2

And the thing is is yeah , exactly like you can't bend certain metals that are that are too refined , or else it just it won't work . Now talk to me about lava bending , which you know . With any of the true fans , you know , they don't know this comes out in like the legend of korra .

But that's , that's the other subclass , which is lava bending , that is overpowered . All right , and the other benders who see that even other , like metal benders , taught herself .

She specifically stated that if you can do , um , lava bending , you're a rare class like you're a rare type of person that is able to perform this , because not many people , they don't even know that this type of sub element even exists , let alone people who know how to use it . That's rare .

Me , if you give me earthbending and tell me hey , congratulations , lava bending is unlocked .

Speaker 3

I know so level Like here's a lot of new stuff . Class Lava vendor yeah .

Speaker 2

Yep , yep , and I'm a oh , you know for a fact . You know for a fact that I'm going , I'm going to rag , actually fun fact , by the way . Um , one of my nicknames in in the group that I play with at Commander Magic the Gathering . Now that you mentioned solo leveling , he's a necromancer too .

Speaker 3

Don't give out your card deck . Don't give out your deck , bro . Keep that a secret For those who haven't played yet .

Speaker 2

Oh , they'll find out eventually , because there's only one commander that's a zombie commander that's blue-black and it helps me draw and it helps me get a zombie and the fans can go nuts on that . Later on they'll guess They'll be able to find it . Let them put up in the comments and see if they can figure it out .

Speaker 1

Alright Kogagatsu same question . If you could be any of the Four elements , including the subclasses that come with it , which one would you be ? Alright Kogagatsu , same question . If you could be any of the four elements , including the subclasses that come with it , which one would you be ?

Speaker 3

Air . I've been an air nomad all day . First off , understand this . You don't fuck with people who like to stay to themselves . That's some real shit . Understanding this airbending is so damn powerful . You don't need a second sub . You don't need a second sub , don't need like two subclasses , because fire , you got lightning and you got , um , I guess , explosion .

Technically , combustion is also kind of , yeah , combustion bending , so yeah , you got combustion and lightning , earth , you have lava and metal and then water . You have ice and blood , but really just more refined water per se . But I mean , technically metal is refined herb , so same thing , um , you know . So you kind of have that air .

You don't need no fucking subclass air itself . Is the ?

Here's the thing about being an airbender , aside from the fact that you know we obviously stood again having gotten to legend of korra , but legend of korra really told you how deadly these other earth but these other style bendings really are , aside from the fact that old boy like ripped the fucking air out of somebody , out that bitch's mouth , and just had her

suffocate on her own breath to death , which is crazy .

Speaker 2

You know , even even at the first season , I was already like dude , airbending is as powerful as hell because , like we can see that air , we can see airbenders doing airbend , but in reality , the opponent isn't able , isn't not capable of seeing this movement of air . So , to be fair , these people were just seeing like swish slash , whoosh .

Why the fuck am I in the air ? How am I two miles away now ?

Speaker 3

exactly so . One of the one of the best things about airbending is the fact that , um , like you said , you can't really see it coming because it's air . You just gotta like understand it's coming . Second thing into it is that , being an air nomad air nomads have a fucking spider sense . They talking about that shit . They have a fucking spider sense .

You can feel the airflow and anything changing . If a firebender is about to attack you , you can feel the air getting hot . If a waterbender is about to attack you , you can feel the water pressure in the air changing . If an earthbender is about to attack you , you can feel the shifts in the air .

You can feel the shifts in the air circulation in the ground because there's space between the slats of the earth . If you are truly in tune with air , being that true air nomad that you are supposed to be , and understanding that air is life , breath is life , you're in tune with everything . You can detect every attack coming to you .

And let's just say by chance , you don't , because my second pick was going to be earth because one of the things about I like how somebody had mentioned one time on youtube was I've been thinking about this as I was a kid .

Earthbenders just are too fucking nice because Toph has shown the fact that you can just bend the earth beneath somebody's feet and cause them to split and hit . They nuts on the ground .

Speaker 1

That just happens .

Speaker 3

Earthbenders just don't do that . But you can bend the earth underneath somebody . That's already powerful enough , an air nomad , even if you don't truly disassociate yourself . Nigga , you can ride on a fucking air ball . I can fly through the air . All you can do is just keep throwing rocks at my ass Congratulations .

You keep throwing rocks and I'm just dodging , dodging , dodging , and then I can go with the airflow . If I decide to be like , oh , I'm done dodging , instead of getting hit by the rock , I just ride the air current that the rock just created and get out the way .

Or if I decide to just be that motherfucking badass because ang did do this one time take the element , engulf it in an air bubble and shoot that shit right back at you . By that point you too shocked to be like holy shit , did you just bend something else ? I didn't have to be in , nothing else . I encased it in air and threw it back at you .

Now you're getting hit with your own attack plus an air boost Mm-hmm .

Speaker 2

Air on air bruh . Air on air was really dangerous and they knew that .

Speaker 3

And then spirit beings is what the spirit bending ? I'm the only motherfucker that can fight a ghost . Ghosts will whoop your ass . Ghosts ain't gonna whoop my ass because I'm a spirit being that motherfucker .

Speaker 2

Which is in and of itself technically like a subclass , but only very few people know about it and only very few people can use it . So very few people use it .

Speaker 3

It so people use it . That is not . That is not that nobody knows about . It is something that all air nomads do know . It's a goal to be achieved . That's the point of like your whole thing is like you're . You're aiming sorry about that is that you're aiming to be that point to where you can spirit bends .

You're aiming to be that point that , where you can spirit bend , you're aiming to be that point that you have gotten to that absolute control , that absolute lifting of yourself off the ground , to where you've disassociated yourself so much with the earth , with all existence , and you finally have pretty much encased in true , absolute enlightenment .

Speaker 1

I'm reading that spirit bending is under water bending .

Speaker 3

Spirit bending actually . I think they did move it under water bending actually . Yeah , that's right . I mean air nomads are able to do it .

Speaker 2

I mean air nomads are able to do this shit , then she was a perfect airbender , she was a master airbender and she knew about the entire ability Of like the spirit realm and using it as in her face .

Speaker 3

You're talking about Du's daughter .

Speaker 2

In Legend of Korra .

Speaker 3

Or who .

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah , korra .

Speaker 1

Unalaq taught it to Korra , but I know we're not talking about Legend of Korra , but still I was looking into it and I was like Wait a minute it's under waterbender .

Speaker 3

So technically remember , she is also based . She also has waterbender blood in her veins Too , because her grandma is a waterbender . Yeah , that's what you're talking about . So you want to be technical in that aspect , you can put in that aspect too . But the air nomads were able to traverse into the spirit realm as well .

Speaker 1

They have spiritual projection .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and don't ghost mess with me , bro , ghost fear me .

Speaker 2

There you go , yeah .

Speaker 1

I'm going to be real with y'all Now , with what Coco Gazz has said , he made airbending sounds so OP , which it is , that I would choose that . But I need to be real with myself . I'd probably be a firebender Like I want to .

Because here's the thing First of all , when you talk about breathing and it was like my breathing I make that a big deal when it comes to martial arts and shit , but also the fighting style .

You know how with each bender they have a specific way of how they move with the elements and fire just feels more natural to me to where I feel like I'm more of a natural fire bender than anything else .

I'm almost like Korra to an extent , to where it's like , oh well , you know it feels so natural to me , even though she's from the water tribe and all that , but not only that . But I just feel like the only reason why I want firebending is because you know it's cool and also I'm like a big catechial hitman reborn fan . So I'm like that's like the cool .

Thing too , you know you already know , but also Having lightning powers and combustion Is pretty cool too . So I'm like it just feels more in my element . So airbending is very Cool , and same thing with earthbending . Like , honestly , if I could be the avatar , I would be fucking around With all four of the elements .

To be honest , just like Aang when he fought Otozai and I was like all Four elements at once . He was Ready for war against that motherfucker . This is true , but I gotta be real with myself . Firebender would probably be more of my element . No pun intended .

Speaker 3

I completely understand . Honestly , I know we've talked about it before , but I definitely feel you as a firebender as well too . It's that moment of understanding . Fire is one of the best things about it , and I think it'll be a great fit for you as well in the fact that firebenders most people be like oh , you're just a hothead , you can't do nothing .

But I wouldn't put you into those firebending categories . I put you in the firebenders like the sun vendors yeah , the ones that , like that , understand that fire actually doesn't just come from anywhere , but it comes from within . It's not fire of rage , it's fire of breath , it's a fire of life .

Speaker 1

That passion within that shit that keeps you going , that perseverance , the purest form of fire . It's like a fire , that's like , even though it burns bright , but it's like , for some reason , it's oddly warm , yep .

Speaker 2

And they were the ones who understood directly , because they were being taught by the original Firebenders , which was the Dueling Dragons . They knew very well and they understood perfectly what the element of fire was composed of and the sunbenders ?

The sunbenders were in tuned entirely with this element and I'm glad , I'm so glad that they decided to put that onto the show and present that onto the .

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Speaker 1

And that's my main thing I'm not like one of those motherfuckers that'll be like oh yeah , I'm gonna use my powers to be a bully and shit , pretty much like a zula , but it's more like it just feels natural to me to a point to where , like , not only that , but like I would know better , to where I'm not trying to hurt anybody with it um , not intentionally

, not like , but more like because I have these powers , I should definitely know how to control it . To a point to where I only need to firebend if I absolutely need to . Like I would be as peaceful as Iroh with this shit .

Speaker 3

Oh , most definitely , and be that moment like the dragon flame , like just being like that moment . You be like ooh , everyone's like , oh , I'm so scared , I don't know , I don't know , he seems dangerous , seems dangerous and it was like man , he don't seem that dangerous .

I didn't seem dangerous because I have to show you , but if you really want me to show you why they call me the dragon , I can show you why they call me the dragon and then you got john .

Speaker 2

John just gatekeeping and being like nah firebender's dangerous and it'll destroy everything . Calm your ass down .

Speaker 1

Just because you're a firebender doesn't mean you're automatically a bad guy . It's just that you just happen to be able to firebend .

Speaker 2

He was gatekeeping the crap out of it . He was like no , no , no , you shouldn't learn firebending because it's so dangerous .

Speaker 3

You should go learn something else oh , you mean like bang , when he was first learning , when he was trying to learn , and he got completely scared because old dude told him control his breathing , he was like no , no , I just want to jump , I just want to do this , I want to do this . And it's like I'm never gonna fire bend again .

It's like no , you , you can't make that promise . You're the avatar you have to . You don't have a choice .

Speaker 2

You can't , you can't .

Speaker 1

I don't have any other options besides that and if I , if I really get pushed , it's not gonna even be firebending , it'll be more like firebending is like my core element , but I'm more specialized in the lightning generation aspect of it to where I can be like fucking Yusuke with a fucking speargun , except it's more like a railgun with two fingers and I'll be

like you really want the smoke fam .

Speaker 2

Yo , that would you know . Hold up , hold up , wait a minute , wait a minute , wait a minute , wait a minute . I just thought of something . You make a good point With electricity and rail guns . Oh what , yeah , I'll be like fucking Accelerate .

Speaker 1

Well , not Accelerate , but that one girl who's like known as the rail gun from a certain magical index . I'm sorry if I forgot her name , but I swear to God god , it was like on the tip of my tongue but fuck it .

But yeah , I'll pretty much be like that girl from a certain magical index or a certain magical rail gun , depending on your prerogative yeah , no , and um in , we're gonna .

Speaker 2

I'm gonna keep mentioning this , even though we're not really talking about legend of korra . But in legend of korra one of the main characters was specialized in the use of lightning and he was a good firebender , but his lightning was insane . Yeah . It's more like .

Speaker 1

I'll be trying to master making it so concentrated that it'll be a little railgun With two fingers .

Speaker 3

I have a question . So it's like Thomas Smash , I have a color . What color fire . Do you think JB is ?

Speaker 2

It really all depends . You got that fire in you . You got that . You're calm for the most part . You got that fire in you , you got that oomph , you're calm for the most part . And I would say that it's more or less of a combination . It's kind of like how Zuko had his own combination of around like four different types of between red , orange , yellow .

It's like a mixture there . I'd say you're in that in-between , with the red yellow turning into like a bluish , very , very pure , very hot , but calm at the same time .

Speaker 1

Damn he's not wrong Pretty much yeah .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I was going to say like green , because that would be that moment of like imagine . I can just imagine JB bending green fire . He'd be like it's definitely hot enough to hurt you ?

Speaker 1

No , but hold on . That's the whole point of the sky Flame , because you know storm , rain , lightning , sun , Mist , clouds , he Understand , except all .

Speaker 2

There's an extra chemical in there . If it's green , um , I don't know . Look it up .

Speaker 3

I don't remember which one it is . I think it's like sulfur or something like that .

Speaker 1

Oh shit yeah , that would be like a very combustible I don't remember which one . I think it's like sulfur or something like that . Oh shit , yeah , that'd be like a very combustible flame to where it's like . Essentially it'll be that kind of flame to where you can combine other firebenders together , to where it just becomes even more deadly .

Speaker 3

Well , the reason I ask it is because in technicality , based on the fires of the dragons , the dragons were able to bend all the colors , like when they were breathing their fire during the whole dragon dance , which also that whole segment was an amazing thing , for Zuko is a great character . I know there's a couple of things I do want to talk about .

Like , zuko's story with everybody was like fucking amazing .

But I was asked about the colors because of the fact that the dragons are able to bend all colors , like they hit a full rainbow of fucking fire colors when they were breathing together and then cultman and doing that fire pillar around zuko and ang and it was like you could see the blue , green , yellow , orange , red , purple and it was like a full-on rainbow

and it was just fucking gorgeous

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. But understand that every color has a different range of heat as well as also a different range of passion and calmness as well too , and based upon your passion , I would definitely say like a green flame to me fits like it would be perfect into that outside of the extra chemical combustion .

But having those moments that you like you know sometimes you may wind up having those moments . You gotta blow up like bakugou , you gotta start fucking shit up . Then you also have those moments that you're like I can be calm , I can do my thing . But also one thing to keep in mind to this too is the fact that azula's flame was blue .

But understand that there was a moment where her flame did actually go red at one point . It was right after she got defeated , and you understand . In that moment where her flame did actually go red at one point , it was right after she got defeated , and you understand in that moment where she Can we talk about that for a moment ?

Speaker 1

Can we talk about that Agni Kai to where , okay , she was fighting Zuko and the music and everything . Beautiful , gorgeous , I loved it . But it was like it got to a point to where Azula started playing dirty and you know , zuko was trying to goad her into using lightning bending so that they could pretty much clutch the fight .

But Azula pulled a fast one and played dirty by shooting it at Katara . Zuko blocked it . He was pretty much down for a little while . Zuko blocked it . He was pretty much down for um for a little while and then Azula started attacking um Katara until she found out there was like some water , um in the area .

So she kind of tricked Azula into getting to the right spot so she can freeze both of them and then move in within the ice . You know like a little bit of water in there . So she was like able to move within the ice and wrap her with those chains and shit , kind of restrain her and all that .

And then she healed duco and whatnot and she was like breathing fire out of her mouth , like she was just going fucking crazy about tears running over her eyes , and I was like you know , I don't feel no , no , hold on , hold on . I don't feel bad for her , but this , uh , this moment right here , is bringing down the mood , true .

Speaker 2

In one of the books and this is where it kind of Separates from the series . During the books you do get a second look At At Azula and you start realizing that the trauma that her father bestowed upon her just like Zuko , was traumatized by him . Her trauma primarily resides on her mother and you start realizing where she fucked up and where Azula fucked up .

Mentally . The whole story is just really good and it kind of it kind of just like makes you feel for her a little bit , but she's still a bitch yeah almost definitely , most definitely , appreciate you .

Speaker 1

Oh so , one of the things I was saying about that , because it's like if , um , I mean , if there was a sliver of a chance that she could have redemption art , I would have felt bad for her . But you know that bitch was gonna change .

Speaker 3

Katara would have won that shit if she decided to bloodbend .

Speaker 1

Bro , now , that's the first . I felt bad . Zuko knew she could do it . But no , hold on . Now , katara is someone that I felt bad for when that witch , hama , tried to trick her into well , not really trick her , but it's more like she revealed herself to be the one that was like kidnapping Fire Nation soldiers . You know that whole rigmarole .

And then , when it was Aang and Sokka , they kept excuse me , I'm eating right now . My bad , I'm crushing on it . I know Aang and Sokka catch up to them . And eventually the witch decided , okay , I'm going to use them against you . And then , you know , she kind of fought them off to the best of her ability . Okay , I got a better idea .

I , I'm gonna make them fight each other . And like , no , stop it . And then made her like katara was bloodbending and all that . And you know , even though the witch um was got arrested , whatnot , she laughed at all , saying like , oh well , you're a bloodbender now , whether you like it or not . And then katara started crying .

I'm like I felt bad for her in that moment because I'm like you know she had no choice so much shit bro , these kids go through too much shit in this show man . Oh , you want to talk about shit . Let's talk about the time when Appa got captured by sandbenders .

He got so mad he was like into the avatar state and all that shit and Aang threw away his no kill . He was like into the .

Speaker 3

Avatar state and all that shit . And that moment threw away his no kill rule . It was like Batman .

Speaker 1

He was like fuck that shit , and these

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niggas got that . Season 2 , episode 17, . Appa's Lost Days won an award from the Humane Society because that was fucked up the way they did to Appa . That was fucked up Like as an animal lover , like I kind of might jump in that screen and kick all their asses for that .

Speaker 3

Most definitely , Most definitely . And they were just like shit it's just another wild beast , who the fuck cares ? Type of shit . Nah , nigga .

Speaker 1

Oh , you gonna find out , you about to find out today , nigga .

Speaker 3

Like I said , a was like fuck that , no kill . If Katara did not stop him , a was gonna murder the motherfuckers . He was gonna be like fuck this shit , nah , bro . He said you know what ? Wasn't it that , like airbenders be like oh , we don't kill man , Fuck that shit . My master killed 25 , men I'm in .

Speaker 1

Who said the way any other than he's gonna kill ? Peace is made of steel , y'all took my best friend .

Speaker 2

Y'all left me without a ride and y'all think that y'all gonna get out of here without seeing a hospital bill .

Speaker 3

Bitch , that's it . They almost didn't see no hospital period . Bro , I tell you you about murdered .

Speaker 1

Aang would have pulled up with a fucking shovel and I'm like I hope you know how this is going to go down .

Speaker 2

Back to .

Speaker 3

Robbie , Back down when you're about to shovel there's like eight holes dug over there .

Speaker 2

Just throw yourselves in there .

Speaker 3

His name , Remember . Toph was having some trouble , but she did learn a little bit that she could kind of bend the sand just a little bit . She did learn . Toph learned every single point of her bending .

Speaker 1

Hold on , let's talk about Toph that's the MVP right there Because first of all , she got captured in that metal cage and I was like let me feel around . I'm like okay , I pretty much discovered metal bending now and also one of my favorite episodes like not my favorite episode all the time , but it's like an episode that I really like .

Uh , season three , episode seven , the runaway to where , while qatar was um expressing disapproval with talking , the boys wanted to um go out into town scamming Fire Nation street gamblers for some cash . Bro , they were hustling better than Ed , edd and Eddie for real in one episode .

Speaker 2

True , true , yeah . Yeah , they were underestimating a blind girl like nah , this girl don't know what she's doing .

Speaker 3

Understand . She a rich girl who know how the street work . Bro , that's a rare find . Like , what's the real shit ? She's like I may I may have grew up with a whole bunch of money , but shit , I know these streets , I run these streets . You don't know nothing , because I know all about this . Bro , like she was , she was so quick to just know how to .

She hustled the fuck out of here and they and they got so mad and the guitar got upset . She was like no , I'm going to turn you in . And then wind up getting captured herself . She was like oh shit , okay , maybe my plan didn't work .

And Top was just like see , had you just shut the fuck up , we would have had money and we'd just been gone and nobody your ass had to be Mr Goody , goody Two Shoes , didn't you ? You ?

Speaker 2

just had to be Mr Goody Goody , Two Shoes . She had to be all nice and shit and there you go .

Speaker 1

Why couldn't you just let you pulled a double D on him .

Speaker 3

That part , no , no , actually I can't even do that . Double D knew how to turn a blind eye sometimes .

Speaker 1

Sometimes he kind of get crazy with being um self-righteous and whatnot .

So he was like you remember when , uh , the kids in the cul-de-sac I know we're gonna talk about ed and eddie , um , like next month anyways , but my point being is that when the kids decided , oh well , you know , uh , let's fuck the rules , uh , our parents aren't here , whatever , whatever , whatever .

And then Double D got so had a mental breakdown over the rampant chaos . He was like I've pretty much gone temporarily insane and decided to snitch on y'all .

Speaker 2

I'm like what did you do that for ?

Speaker 3

I'm gonna be honest , double D would never let that down . That down , that's a permanent thing . Kevin was so pissed off at that point he was like why would you do that , double D ? We loved you . You was the one , ed , that we tolerated .

Speaker 1

But now he's just as bad as everybody else .

Speaker 3

You're just as bad as the rest of them , oh god . Bad as everybody else . You just as bad as the rest of them . Oh god , it was so bad , but no , like Toph . So the only bending Toph never learned of her subclass was lava bending , and she admitted that she did try .

She was upset that she couldn't learn it but our boy Bolin ended up doing it true , but yeah , so she . So she learned swamp bending , she , she got swamp bending , she got sand bending , she got um metal bending . She literally hit every single subgenre in in earth bending , except for lot bending , and that that says something . That really says something .

Speaker 1

I don't think a situation came up to a point where she needed , well , hold on , if she went to um boiling rock with um that boiling rock episode , you know , where uh saka was trying to um rescue um his dad but turns out um suki was there and uh , it was a whole um mess .

If she was there and was like , let me look around , and she's like , oh well , there's lava , I'm like , hold on , lava magma , that's like earth and fire combined . You know , she could have kind of finagled it to where .

Speaker 3

I'm like , hold on let me try lava bending real quick yeah , I think the thing is they did want to explain that lava bending wound up being such a rarity is the fact that you have to have a certain gene to be able to control , because it's like controlling the vibrations of Earth or something like that . It was explained in the comics .

There wasn't one that was explained in the show , so it was explained in the comics . So I was like , so I'm not going to go too much into that .

Speaker 2

I'm not going to go too much into that . I'm actually reading up a little bit of Earthbending , and even though Lava bending was considered only to be Something that was strictly For the avatars , since avatar .

Speaker 3

Zeta was the .

Speaker 2

No , roku was not the first one . Zeta was the first .

Speaker 1

He was the first one to lava bend Roku was not the first one .

Speaker 2

Zeta was the first . He was the first one to lava bend Roku . That knowledge was passed on to Roku Because obviously he's the avatar .

Speaker 1

Yoshi knows how to do it .

Speaker 2

Yoshi knows how to do it because she had to break up .

Speaker 1

The land .

Speaker 2

The island , exactly , and she used lava bending because of Zeta . But there's a possibility that Bolin might be a descendant of one of the avatars , like Avatar Zetto , even though I don't think he really even had kids at any point , or I think he did or whatever . But that was only strictly to the Avatar and people who can do it .

They have an odd connection , but that was only strictly to the Avatar and people who can do it . They have an odd connection to one of these Avatars and they are known to be very offensive and defensive . Since , let's be honest , I'm not getting near lava , and even if you know waterbending , congratulations .

How are you going to cool that shit down as quickly as you can ? You're going to need a lot of water to do this . As you can , I'm going to kiss the fucking floor . You know what ?

Speaker 1

That oddly reminds me of the first Fantastic Four movie where they made a whole science experiment on Doctor Doom . It's like what would happen if you super cool hot metal real fast .

Speaker 3

Oh yeah , Like rusted him shut . Oh , that was horrible , it was horrible . That would have been the worst thing , like the worst death that you could ever imagine . God almighty , I really hope they do . Fantastic Four have been the worst things , like the worst death that you could ever imagine .

Speaker 1

Just god almighty , I really hope they do fantastic war and dr doom some justice when they try to bring around . I'm like bro , like if the mcu fuck it up I will be rioting they're supposed to be getting a new movie I know , but I'm like , please don . I'm like please don't fuck it up .

Speaker 2

Please don't fuck it up . Look , we got a couple of nerds in that lineup for the new movie . These are actual people .

Speaker 1

These are nerds who actually like reading comic books we got some Henry Cavill's on our hands . Okay , gotcha .

Speaker 2

Yeah we got some good word .

Speaker 3

Got some good word on that . I will say um . So going back , because I know um , obviously for time , but we're gonna go ahead . I do again really want to talk about zuko a little bit more and understanding that his moments that he had with every single character . So we already know that .

You know , when he went to try to help teach ang firebending , zuko lost his bending because he lost his rage . Everything was built upon his rage and anger and then once he finally got accepted into the team , he no longer had that anymore . He's like I lost my bending and I don't understand what happened .

And then you know , wind up having to go learn to the Sunbenders and to the Sun Nation . And then they taught him it's because you just was bending the wrong way all the time . All y'all keep bending weak and shit . All y'all some weak motherfuckers .

That's not what they said , but I feel like , honestly , that's really what it felt , like they were just like hammering it in like over and over again . It was hilarious as shit . Then , of course , it went off on Ang . Your bending is unrefined and premature and primitive , exactly . And y'all has abandoned everybody , everybody . What the fuck is wrong with you ?

What makes you think that we should serve , we should help you out , since you abandoned us ?

Speaker 1

I was like damn you have to literally report yourself that part , um , but he had moments for everybody .

Speaker 3

He had moments with um , he had moments with Sokka when they wound up going and breaking into the prison in order to free Suki and uh , free um their dad , uh katara and um saka's dad from prison as well . To like that whole prison sequence was just insane because they were gone for days and like katara and aang were like restless .

They were so frustrated like bro , we can't , we can't send messages , we can't like check in on you guys . Like this is horrible , like what's gonna , what's gonna happen .

But that whole prison break sequence was like such a crucial thing um giving an opportunity also for zuko's more development and the fact that he's , like you know , may does love me and she's willing to betray her friendship betray her country for me before I forget , forget .

Speaker 1

I love how , yes , zuko quote unquote betrayed Mei . But at the end , when they get back together and whatnot you know they like kiss and make up and all that and she pulled some shit to where I kind of expected that from fucking Eska you know , the girl twin from Legend of Korra Like don't ever break up with me again . I'm like okay .

Speaker 2

Oh yeah . Eska was fucking crazy dude . She was nuts . Red flags everywhere .

Speaker 1

Hey , if the cooters fire , I get it . Hey , the cooter could be fired . But man , this is crazy .

Speaker 3

We went there .

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Children who was listening to this , thinking that this is just going to be over Like Avatar Last Airbender . The show is still meant for kids . Our podcast is not , so y'all know .

Speaker 2

They probably watch porn by now I was about to say yo , like I'm , like my wife is a teacher and like I get told that these kids know more about this underworld shit that we , as an adult , end up finding out in our adult age .

Speaker 1

No , no , you'll be so surprised , like to a point where , like we're , to a point where we don't even need to have the talk with kids . It's like , for some reason , they just find out like wait what happened how did you know ?

Speaker 3

to be honest , my mom never my mom never actually had the talk with me . It was one of those ones that , yeah , it was at school , it happened at school . It was one of those ones like I it was at school , it happened at school . It was one of those ones like I .

I found my talk was when the kids just straight up asked me one day jamie , are you a virgin ? I'm sitting here , I'm sixth grade in middle school and just asked me hey , are you a virgin ? And I'm like . I said hey , I'm like . I was like what the fuck bro , like ? Why are you asking me this question right now ?

Speaker 1

of course I'm a virgin like you're still a virgin .

Speaker 3

What do you mean ? Am I still You're not ?

Speaker 1

That's something you need to teach a therapist about no , no . It's like oh , if you haven't had sex before high school , what are you doing with your life ? I'm like whoa , whoa , whoa , whoa , wait , a minute , wait a minute .

Speaker 3

Hold on a second . Look , our lives did not go through what AIM , katara and Sokka had to go through . We didn't have to fight war . Them kids deserved a drink If they decided to have relations . I think they was well within their rights .

To be honest with you , because the stuff that they dealt with and there was no chance that they was going to make it out , that's just one of those things they needed that special jasmine tea that oolong tea .

Speaker 1

You know what I mean , that oolong tea . You know what I mean Like some sake , if you will .

Speaker 2

That nectar , that delicious nectar , and that is one of the things that I don't think a lot of people don't realize that same juice that Osaka Drunk ended up .

You know that one scene when he was just fucking bugging oh , the cactus juice , yeah yo , I was actually like I wanted to look it up and see as to whether or not , as to what is this in reference to ? And I was like is this ayahuasca ? Is this peyote ? Is this any ? Is this like something that is found in the real world ?

Speaker 3

And yes , yes , it is .

Speaker 2

Yes , it is .

Speaker 3

It's pretty much like cactus water Wine per se .

Speaker 1

It's like liquid LSD .

Speaker 3

Yeah , yeah , that too .

Speaker 1

I'll go in a whole different direction . I'm sorry . I'm like whoa , wait a minute .

Speaker 3

Yeah , we're not talking about no hard drugs or nothing like that . That's pretty interesting .

Speaker 1

No , no , no like not even related to drugs . But it was just a slip of the tongue , so don't worry about it .

Speaker 3

But for reals though it's like , but like Zuko had about it . But for reals though it's like , uh , but like , zuko had , like these great moments and then like , so he had that also , that moment with katara where he was able to , you know , hunt down the person that actually killed their mother , and that was such a big thing for her .

She was like , oh , I need to get this person , and that that moment was big in the fact that we got a chance to see she had that moment . First off . Remember , they found the . We got a chance to see she had that moment . First off , remember , they found the wrong guy . When they found the wrong guy , that was when Zuko realized , oh , she can bloodbend .

And he didn't question , he was like shut up , this is on you , I ain't got no business into this one .

Speaker 2

Would you question that ? I wouldn't question that shit . I feel uncomfortable If I find out you're a bloodbender .

Speaker 1

I'm sorry . I'm sorry Koki .

Speaker 3

If I find out .

Speaker 1

You're a bloodbender . I'll be immediately uncomfortable . I'll be clenching my body up like Back away slowly Right .

Speaker 3

Keep in mind on this . It's not even the fact that Zuko didn't know about bloodbending , because they had already arrested the bloodbending , because they had already arrested the bloodbending witch .

They already had arrested her and it was already made known amongst the Fire Nation that there was an area where there was a lady that was bloodbending and she was controlling Fire Nation people . So in his mind , oh , they captured her , they arrested her and he's watching Katara do this in front of him .

In his mind he's probably thinking , oh shit , that was her . Oh shit , let me back up . I'm going to back up . I'm not going to say nothing .

Speaker 2

Am I chilling with a fugitive ? Is this ?

Speaker 3

Is she going to be like a fugitive villain ?

Speaker 1

someday .

Speaker 3

That part . You really questioned that . You were just like oh wait , I don't know if I want to see this . Can you bend the blood out their body ? I don't know if I want to see this like can you bend the blood out their body too ? I don't know if I want to see that like I'm ready for this , but no that . Look on his face .

He was shocked and he was like , get that serious . He tried to go back quick on that one . I like the animation . They did that like they animated him having a shot . Look on his face like she just twiddled her fingers and dude is going on the ground like , oh my god , my body , I can't control it .

Speaker 1

And I'm like , oh no , bro this is what the dark side looks like in person imagine that moment that you just like and also think about this too .

Speaker 3

He doesn't know how long she's been able to do this , so imagine this moment . He's like all them fights . Did she throw the fight ? Has she been able to do this all along ? And she's just been letting me get away Dang .

Speaker 2

Maybe he was in immediate danger .

Speaker 1

I'm in danger , that's right .

Speaker 3

When she finally found the guy and the dude is just withered old and she was just like you're not even worth killing anymore , just live the rest of your life knowing that I could come back at any day , and off you if I decide to do so , but for right now you're just not worth killing .

Speaker 1

And then just bounces and bro Aang was like you know what . I'm so proud of you for forgiving that man and she was like I don't forgive him .

Speaker 3

He's just not worth my time that part and then he had to question that moment . He's like I'm pretty sure at that moment and went through what we went through .

You know we had talked about the fact that while we all have like this uh , particular female type that we've all been interested in because you know she go and you know , you know we have that , that type that we look for , I think at that moment Aang probably experienced what we was going through . He was like shit , wait , that turned me on a little bit .

Hold on a second . I don't know about this .

Speaker 1

It's like the witchy vibes , not necessarily like goth or whatever . It's like , you know , the witchy vibes , you know like she's kind of mysterious and a little crazy , or like she might know some shit that might really give you nightmares and shit . I'm like it sounds very dark but also so tempting Right right .

Just like oh , it's almost like you know how deep the rabbit hole goes , but you're just like fuck it , I'm dying .

Speaker 3

I'm gonna die then .

Speaker 2

Yo just imagine , like Aang , accidentally forgetting an anniversary , and then she just bloods out . She just bloods out .

Speaker 3

She's like going crazy , like she got the hair down and shit , like she's really channeling that blood witch vibe oh , from understandings , like from what we understand in legend of korra , like from what the their kids have talked about . There was moments that they had some fights and them fights was not nice . So it was like , yeah , they didn't always get along .

They had some moments that was like , and I was , and I was like dang , how bad did an avatar and a master ward have been ? No , that probably went bad . Ooh , I can't imagine . Freeze your dick off , try me . Ugh .

Speaker 2

Ugh , that's the first warning Right there . Just ooh , wait a second . The second one is nitrogen freeze , and that's it . I'm just fucking ripping right off .

Speaker 3

That part is just ugh . No , I'm sorry , I think I made JB cringe too hard . He was like wait a second . Remember , all these abilities are OP If you ever decide to actually like . If you , if these people were street fighting , like top top is a street fighter , top swipe , top swipe the ground from beneath people's feet to win a fight .

Speaker 2

she did that , so she , she was ready to win a fight , she didn't care one of the things that I was surprised that she didn't do at the end was bloodbend . And but here's the thing to all her opponents why can't she just like bloodbend to the point where it just gives everybody a charlie horse and they're just incapable of fighting ?

Speaker 3

because she's so scared of doing so , yeah , she's still really scared of doing so .

Speaker 2

So it's like she's so scared of doing so .

Speaker 1

Yeah , she's still really scared of doing so . So it's like it doesn't affect her directly , yeah . But here's the thing . It's like , uh , even if it's like a very , very control form of bloodbending to her , it's like it doesn't really hurt anybody , but more like just give her the edge .

It's more like , yeah , she'll probably be doing that , but then eventually it's almost like I don't know , it just feels like a slippery slope . So we feel like once you do it , once it's like it's kind of like a drug . It's like you just can't stop flipping . It's like the literal bloodless would kick in I would probably even compare it to like .

Speaker 3

So there's the um , the show that I was watching , the dragon prince , that you know , season six has now been announced and stuff .

There was a thing into that where I had mentioned into my podcast episode y'all please listen to that that literally dark magic , where literally was the point of like , once you've been tainted by dark magic , once you're tempted to do it again and it's like no , matter how much , no matter how much the main character was trying to resist , resist , resist .

Because he did it once , he wound up having to tap into it again . He found himself in a situation where he was like he had to do it again and it permanently damages your soul . It's like one of those things of just like the fact that I can do it .

It's one thing to know that you can do something , but if you can do it and you've done it once and got away with it , then it's like it stays in the back of your mind , mind tainted , that I could do it again .

And you're constantly battling that because if you succumb to that even one more time , you're gonna do it again and then I see your example and I raise you one example that we should all know by now .

Discussion on Fictional Characters and Lessons

Speaker 1

Proto and the one ring yeah yeah , most broto knew .

Speaker 3

At that point he was just like , yeah , this ring got going to the lava . I finally caved in . He caved in at the very last moment . It's the worst moment . All this time you went like what was it ?

Three weeks , three weeks , you never caved and all of a sudden , that time you're like um , and maybe just this one or if it was a I think it was an accident the first time wasn't it it just flipped on by accident when it was in the tavern . Yeah , yeah , it slipped on by accident . Even then , he wasn't tainted . He wasn't tainted by the power of it .

He like , he wasn't tainted until it was right about to be destroyed . It was that moment of finally realization oh , it can be destroyed . It's going to be gone forever . Oh no , it's going to be gone forever . You know , I never tried out the power like I really wanted to like , maybe just one time like . No , bro , that's not the time .

You resisted all the time anyway I raise you .

Speaker 2

you know , just to , just to go back on that , I will also raise you . Um , let's see here how much I have . I'll raise you in nuh-uh . I'll fucking go nuts if I have to shit Dark powers . Give me that shit . I've already said it before Don't give me superpowers . There are two options here .

I become like I straight up become a villain , or I'm an anti-hero . I'll probably say bias . Yes , I mean , I don't want people to get hurt .

But to be honest , if I'm stuck in traffic and I have the capability to lift up a car and throw it , and at this point if I can lift up a car and throw it , and at this point if I can lift up a car and throw it , I can pick myself up and just fly . But if I can just pick up a car and throw it , don't give me superpowers .

Speaker 3

The temptation is going to be to throw somebody else's car just because , like yes , the realization afterwards , oh , I could have done this afterwards . No , but the human mind of I'm upset , and when you get upset , your immediate reaction is to hurt someone else yeah , you're gonna throw that .

Speaker 2

I am not a firm believer of with great power comes great responsibility . I love Spider-Man very much .

Speaker 1

I love his beliefs you'd be more like Venom .

Speaker 2

The way we see it , we can do whatever we want , pretty much I'll straight up be like fucking deadpool bro , just fucking , it's a bad guy .

Speaker 3

No , no , you can't you can't use that one . Yeah , I'll say , punisher I was . You can't use deadpool because deadpool did have that . Since we're moving from spider-man to deadpool , deadpool did have that moment where he dawned on peter parker's like mask or he even also didn't he like .

He took off the mask and covered his eyes so he could keep the identity secret and stuff , and still wound up doing things the way that peter wanted to do it . Even though he had the capability of doing much worse , he still respected that .

Speaker 2

So I wouldn't necessarily go full-on deadpool , example per se , switching from Spider-Man , not that way but I can see the point and this is why you can't give me Earthbending mixed with some elements , because I will guarantee you I will crumble this planet going back into Earthbending Zuko and Toph , that moment where everybody was against Zuko and Toph , that moment

where everybody was against Zuko and Toph .

Speaker 3

went to go and find him and accidentally got burned .

Speaker 2

Ah , yeah , yeah , she got so scared .

Speaker 3

I wish this was fair , but she did . Can't everyone calm down ? She said it was a mistake . I kind of snuck up on him . I didn't let y'all know that I was going over there . Nobody knew I was going over there . Nobody knew I was going over there . I just went over there by myself .

So really it's my own fault and I'm glad that she would , being the youngest and being the wisest in that Moment of being able to be like . I can own Up that it was my mistake . Stop Pandering him .

Speaker 1

Yeah . I just dug out even Todd's parents like oh , she's just a Frail little girl , we need to go Rescue her . And then why don't you come up here and see my face ? You know she was ready to scrap , so I'm like the parallel .

Speaker 3

If Toph could cuss . If Toph could cuss , this whole series would be a whole different thing . I can imagine saying all types of words to be honest with you let me see you fucking try

Speaker 2

it .

Speaker 3

Avatar , the Last Intervenor that we could talk about yeah , I think I went over like Zuko with everyone , but still , yeah , like just those moments that he had with everybody was amazing . Well , zuko and Momo technically we can . Moments that he had with everybody was amazing . Well , zuko and Momo technically . We can't deny Momo being a character .

Momo is his Momo . He's one of the best characters in the show .

He lightens the mood all the time or knocks some sense into somebody when they need it , like Krogon from the One Pokemon I forgot which season series it was when Krogon wound up showing up and having to like poison pawn Brock every single time he was trying to go off on a chick , he was like , ah , bring that back ah , I'm trying to think that had to be

like the black and white era of Pokemon . I think it was black and white .

Speaker 1

I'm pretty sure Krogon was either 4th or 5th gen Right .

Speaker 3

I do remember that was on that one time .

Speaker 1

No , it was 4th gen Because it was with the one time when they Was chatting up With Cynthia and Crowgun . You know , brock was hitting on Cynthia , of course , but then Crowgun showed up , took one look At Cynthia she was like smiling . I'm like you know what , brock , I'm gonna let you have this one .

Speaker 3

He was like , oh , hold on a second , you might have picked a good one . I'm gonna back up on this one . You got this . Go ahead , it's hilarious .

Speaker 2

Do y'all remember when Aang was trying to Better learn how to use the avatar State and he ends up meeting the Guru in one of the temples ? Y'all remember that .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I was just talking about where he was trying to master the Avatar State but he bailed on his training when he realized that , oh , he has to give up his attachment to Qatar and people in general .

Speaker 2

Yeah , no , he could have just done both , yeah no , that's what I'm saying .

Speaker 1

He eventually did both , but that was just kind of the point , the fact that he gave up power and perfection for the sake of love , because , at the end of the day , aang is still a kid , you know , he's he may be 112 years old , but he's still a kid , so it's like he don't really care for power that much , like he just wanted to live a peaceful life

before all this shit went down and then the avatar um role just got thrusted upon him . So , in actuality , if Aang wasn't the Avatar , he's just a regular kid that just want to have friends , like you know develop crushes on girls and all that .

So like , aside from being the Avatar , he's not that far off from being a normal kid , so you got to give him a little bit more grace than that that's true , but you know , we were .

Speaker 2

we were kids during this time and we're receiving all of this wisdom and all of this like positive mental reinforcement while watching this episode . And I'm just a kid and I'm seeing this and I'm like , wow , this is about to change my entire life right , right .

Speaker 3

I feel like it helped us mature even more . Like all of a sudden , we just we watched .

Like once you finished and we finally watched it , we walked back in the school like that person that was always aggravating you , you just had that moment being like , no , I am calm , I am going to dispower all the this animosity that you have towards me and ignore it and be able to move forward as I grace myself in my avatar state .

Probably not even that much , I'm just being extra , but I'm just saying and then the kids at school start bullying . You smack don't say that weird ass shit , crazy enough

Childhood Bullying and Cultural Representations

. I will say avatar last airbender was the one show that I did not get bullied for . I got bullied on for dragon ball z yuyu haka show in yasha . I got bullied . I even got bullied on sailor moon . I'm not even a big sailor moon fan . Like I watched it . I'm not like a big fan into it . I got bullied into that one too . So I was like bro , how ?

Speaker 1

just leave me alone . Digimon for me , like if it was dragon ball Z .

Speaker 3

They would have backed me up , nah I got picked off . For Dragon Ball Z too . It was just like oh , you just want to be Japanese so bad . You just want to be in anime so bad , bruh like , so what ? I would prefer being there Than being here listening to you right now .

Speaker 1

I'm like man , reality is bullshit yeah .

Speaker 3

I'm like bruh , let's be honest . I yeah , I'm like , bro , let's be honest . Would I be doing that if I had all these special powers ? Or would I be sitting here breathing in your hot breath because you decided I'm too cool to brush my teeth this morning ? I ain't got time for this , bro . I'm so aggravated .

Speaker 1

I mean you're picking on me for liking Dragon Ball Z , but your breath smells like it has a black Belt in karate .

Speaker 3

Like , at some point you gotta let it rest , you gotta do something . Have you heard of breath mint ? Do you know that there's a thing called a Lysol ?

Speaker 1

Hey man , look , this is a little box here called tic tacs .

Speaker 3

You know , you know keep it , I think the best one . That was like literally someone had went to tic tacs , like , oh man , I meant to give you this box . They put they kept the empty box of tic tacs specifically for this joke and it was hilarious .

It was like nah , I meant to give you a tic tac , but apparently your breath was so bad , all the tic tacs ran away and I was like nah , I meant to give you a tic-tac , but apparently your breath was so bad . All the tic-tacs ran away and I was like , wow , damn .

Speaker 2

I like that one . There was one that I heard where this guy went yo yo breath smells like a dirty soft full of nickels and that shit . That shit hurt me . I wasn't even part of it .

Speaker 1

That shit hurt me that it should be a finisher move in Mortal Kombat that part . I'm like man kids were like fucking savage with the roast . I'm like man see , this is why I'm kind of . I'm almost glad that I grew up the way that I grew up because it's like bro , I got roasted and picked on For so many different things .

I'm to a Point where , compared to Some of these softies out here , I'm like hey man , like If y'all can't get roasted . Like once I'm like Y'all gonna have to get some Thick skin , my dudes like . Sometimes , like you just gotta roll with the punches . Sometimes you Gotta tell yourself you know what , y'all gonna have to get some thick skin , my dudes like .

Sometimes Sometimes you guys Tell yourself you know what ? To an extent I kind of deserved it .

Speaker 3

Yep To an extent Okay .

Speaker 1

In my personal experience . To a degree I kind of did had it coming .

Speaker 3

Okay , mine wasn't .

Speaker 2

These people are just assholes . It's straight up savage , only in hindsight , though .

Speaker 1

At first I was like Just leave me alone , dog . And then , you know , growing up you was like you know what man . I can't even be mad at the people that picked on me , because I kind of brought it on myself , you know , like wearing high Waters and all that type of shit . I'm like you know what . I can't be too mad .

Speaker 3

Well , I don't think I have anything else . The only thing that I would probably even mention is the fact that we also got really great backgrounds for the show .

Speaker 1

My cabbages .

Speaker 2

That part Every fighting style , every bending style .

Speaker 3

Always , Even to this day . People would just know my cabbages , you fall , my cabbages , oh no .

Speaker 2

I'm just ready for it . That shit hit so many seasons and I was surprised at that running joke . They kept it going for so long and anybody who was a fan . They'll be like oh shit , no .

Speaker 3

One for each head of cabbage , you would see him and you would know the line was gonna come . Even if it didn't come at that moment , it could have came like later on , towards the end of the episode , but you knew at some point it was gonna pop up . So apparently they , the writers , thought the joke was old .

It was like this went old before the first season . Like the first three times they used it so it was like , oh yeah , after that it's kind of old . But then they started seeing people was like making things about it and it was just like my cabbages .

And then it went to conventions and it was just like my cabbages and it was just like , oh yeah , they realized . They said okay , so apparently people love this joke and decided to continue doing it . It wound up being one of the few jokes that , although it is old , it's still funny enough that people still do it .

Speaker 1

I mean , think about it . Chances are , if you're a fan of avatar the last inventor , you might have been around for uh like golden age spongebob , to where you know . Uh , yeah , my leg and I was like bro like you , underestimate how simplistic some fans are . It's like you give them something to Attach themselves to , they will run that joke to the ground .

Speaker 3

My kids love it . Like straight up I literally went to McDonald's . They had like the little SpongeBob toy and it was literally Like my daughter literally got that's the one that she wound up getting . It was just a little ball thing , like the little character .

When you knock them over they just beam back up again , type of thing , like the little gravity stand toy . But it was Fred and I was just like oh . I was like , oh , it's the Mylet guy . She was like Mylet . I said , yeah , exactly , there you go . Everyone knows Fred . That one episode . They were like huh , you didn't break your leg today , fred .

You usually always break it . He's like I know right and it didn't , and then at the very end of the episode he breaks his leg .

Speaker 2

Man .

Speaker 1

They eat the lime bread . My leg , oh yeah .

Speaker 3

We were saying this that time . I'm so sorry no , you're good .

Speaker 2

It sucks that , like only very few people of our generation understands these references , and that hurts yeah , it does , it does .

Speaker 3

But the only other thing is like so yeah , every fighting style is based off of some type of real life martial art and they did a great job animating it , because they actually had people who practice these martial arts do it in the studio so they could draw them doing this in order to animate all of those fight scenes . All this was done on purpose .

The mocap was fucking fun . Actually . No , that's the thing . A lot of it wasn't even mocap , this was hand drawn . Yeah , they just had the people doing it in front of them and they were just drawing . It was hand-drawn animation .

So all those fight scenes is not cgi , straight up , all hand-drawn and it's like it's absolutely so literally the beauty of it in the fact that understanding that too and you're just like fucking amazing , um , amazing , disney could never .

Speaker 1

Anyway , don't tell that to Disney let's be real as far as like Disney TV shows like they were playing a little too safe when to act let's talk about Disney fight .

Speaker 3

Scenes non-existent anyway , so let's talk about Disney fight scenes non-existent .

Speaker 2

anyway , let's talk about it . Okay , thanks for listening .

Speaker 3

Exactly . That's all we have to say about it . They're non-existent . If you can find one Disney show , don't go to Marvel , don't go to Shang-Chi , don't even go to Shang-Chi . I'm talking about just straight Disney animated shows . Give me a fight scene from a Disneyney animated show don't exist , but anyway from american dragon shake long . They have right things

Nostalgic Chat About Animated Shows

. But then the second season completely cut all that off because the audience was too sensitive and the audience hated it because the audience was not sensitive and the audience hated it because the audience was not sensitive .

Speaker 1

You know what ? Once again , I'm so glad I grew up as a cartoon network kid because so that's fine , I'll give you that one .

Speaker 3

Okay , fine , we have one . And they killed it in the second season . That was non-existent in the second season . Second season was nothing but them flying around shooting fireballs at each other . That was it . There was no hand-in-hand combat .

Speaker 1

Did you watch the Yang-Yao Disney show ? Nope , cartoon .

Speaker 2

Network .

Speaker 1

No , it was different on Cartoon Network , maybe on Fox , like Jetix or whatever .

Speaker 3

Oh yeah , it was Jetix , because I remember Yang Yang Yo came on right after Super Robot Monkey Team Hunger Force .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I mean , come on See , that's the thing . You had to go real . You had to be like Fucking in the trenches to find an example , but that's what I'm saying . The action is so lost when it comes to Disney , they play it so safe , so Nickelodeon Cartoon . Network had fight scenes lost . When it comes to Disney , it's like hey , play it so safe .

I'm like man .

Speaker 3

So Nickelodeon , cartoon Network had fight scenes . That's what people fucking loved about it . So , yes , avatar , last Airbender , teenage Mutant Ninja , turtles , nickelodeon I mean Cartoon Network , had it for a short period of time but it wound up going . They sold it to Nickelodeon .

For whatever dumb reason , whatever dumb reason , whatever dumb reason they sold the nickelodeon . But , um , yeah , nickelodeon had fight scenes just saying we loved action . That's just what it was . So there . But yeah , like all that was hand drawn so amazing onto that . The other thing is the understanding also of the white Lotus .

The white Lotus was based onto a real thing , not off the real white Lotus , the real white Lotus and earth is not the Illuminati type shit , nothing that it was put to be in the show , but understanding that it was . It was meant to be a network of people who wanted peace . The white Lotus never really wanted to interfere in life .

It was just a way for everybody to exchange information . It was supposed to be just them playing a game , playing the board game that they were playing and then being able to just enjoy tea .

One of the things about Iroh's asphyxiation for tea and him having a very specific tea that he really likes , the Jasmine tea was because that was the primary tea of the White white lotus . I'm not going to go into that because one that would take entirely too long . That's entirely the whole thing for itself .

And plus on top of that , so many other people have done youtube videos on tour . You're more than welcome to look into that if you really want to dive into the white lotus and into the kung fu martial arts . You can see videos of interviews and stuff like that is amazing . I'd encourage you to watch it . Oh , I have to .

You can see videos of interviews and stuff like that is fucking amazing . I'd encourage you to watch it .

Speaker 1

Oh , I'm happy after you can I recommend cinema therapy for doing a uh analysis on zuko like ?

Speaker 3

because , it's good it is zuko and iroh . And I love the iron one because the dude was like it was a competition to see if he was going to be a better therapist than Iroh and he was like , look , nah , he got me beat he said I can't compete . He's like I agree with everything he says . There's nothing wrong that he said it's all correct .

Speaker 2

Uncle Iroh was getting mugged , and then he got un-mugged and then he became a therapist no , no , no , no , no .

Speaker 3

Duke got mugged and then showed him how to do it correctly he was like let me show you how to properly mug somebody ? Since you did not , I was like how , how damn badass is you into that ? Did you just like hold on , you're mugging me wrong ?

Speaker 1

no , no , hold on real quick before I forget . Can we talk about how , in season three , when Iroh got locked up and all that , and Zuko was visiting him you know the Fire Nation people was visiting him . You're like , oh man , you know he used to be a great general , but now he's just a crazy old man .

But as soon as they all leave he's like take off the role . He got fucking jacked . He was doing fucking all that . Hey yo man , you got that hard body . Now you got that prison body .

Speaker 3

I'm not fucking with Iroh . There's a quote that somebody has said before and it was like nah . This ain't it . It was like nah , but Iroh is that one ? Men want to be men .

Speaker 2

Do we have connection problems ?

Speaker 1

Uh , yeah , uh Wait for it .

Speaker 3

I moved my phone Just oh lord , what happened ? You cut off .

Speaker 1

Yeah , you got cut off . You were about to say what I was saying about . Iros where .

Speaker 3

I was saying IRO pretty much already got that Riz . I guess I moved the wrong way . I don't know . Stuff happens , technology . Maybe it's my phone telling me I've been on too long , who knows ?

Speaker 2

No , you got like at least 13 minutes , yeah , but I feel odd , because people keep mentioning the word Riz and I don't know what that means .

Speaker 3

Swag it's the new word for swag .

Speaker 1

Well , Riz is more like short for charisma .

Speaker 2

Riz Charisma .

Speaker 3

You're pulling up all the girls , pulling up all the hoes type thing is that why everyone's calling it a higher risk ? Yep , literally . I want you to understand most people .

The bad part about it is is that the same kids who use it will get upset when you be like it's really a dnd reference that you're using and they're like it's really a D&D reference that you're using and they're like no , it's not . No , it really is . It's literally a D&D reference that you're using Someone who plays .

D&D made it popular , and you just don't know .

Speaker 1

I like how Gravity Falls had a D&D episode and then Grunkle Stan like , fucking , like I want to say he literally killed Some D&D player spirits . But the fact that he said that , bro , only nerds think that charisma Is a fucking Superpower , I'm like wow , wow .

Speaker 2

Yo , I'll fucking , I'll run up on him right now and I'll beat his ass , cause most of my builds Of D&D consists with charisma , cause you get better shit when you have good charisma .

Speaker 3

Honestly what I think . Charisma . I think what it originally was . It wasn't just the ability of pulling people or something like that . Charisma was the ability to talk to people , it was the ability to be able to have conversation . That's just really what it was . It was that moment like I can literally just run up and talk to people .

Speaker 1

You know what I mean .

Speaker 2

It's like you're just so natural with this , like it's like a flowing river and whatnot , like god damn , he's so cold with it many of the times , with the modifiers and with the advantages , you can talk to this person and this person likes you so much that they'll be like , hey , don't go anywhere , I'll be right back , and then they give you something that

either you need or it was something you wanted , or something that is going to help you in your mission .

Speaker 3

Later on , yeah .

Speaker 1

Here's a perfect example of how . I was faced when we were doing the Cat Williams review and then MJ was like saying , oh man , I need to find a man that can meet my sex drive . And then I was like pulling a Holes reference and be like , hey , I can fix that .

Speaker 3

I can fix that right up . I do remember , because I was like dang , you said you dropped your shot right there . I was like , without missing the beat , you hit that on point . I was like homeboy rolled a nat 20 on that straight off the bat . I was like the homeboy rolled a nat 20 on that thing straight off the bat . I was like , wait a second . Jb .

Speaker 1

See , that's what I'm saying . Like you gotta have to give the gap . You just know how to talk to the ladies . You know what I'm saying .

Speaker 3

I was like bro , he hit that so quick though . I was like okay , wait a second .

Speaker 1

I hit her with a Keith Sweat voice . I was like welcome to the Zone podcast . Stay , have a seat .

Speaker 2

Stay for a while , take some sake , take some cactus juice , just relax .

Speaker 1

Sit back , we'll have a conversation .

Speaker 3

I wish he was here right now , bro , for real . Oh gosh , saka wishes he had aiz Sokka would be trying .

Speaker 2

Sokka got .

Speaker 3

Riz like he did , cause all of a sudden Suki , the moon spirit girl like bruh .

Speaker 1

Even Ty Lee was like hey , cutie . I was like what was she ? The lady's feeling me , though ?

Speaker 3

and we not talking about Legend of Korra , but that moment that people really speculate that one of Toph's kids is actually Sokka's and it's like yeah , I wouldn't .

Speaker 2

You know what , I never doubted it . To be honest , I feel like they confirmed that that's wrong .

Speaker 3

They actually , the writers specifically confirmed that that's wrong , like they . Actually the writer specifically confirmed that that was wrong . But the other people was like nah , the way you wrote to her wasn't the one that had the metal bending academies , that's the one that they were just like . That has to be . It has to be Sokka's talk .

Speaker 2

Well , toph , at one point during Legend of Korra they were talking about how , what was the father ? And it was like , oh , it was just some guy that I met . And she herself confirmed it was like , no , it was not Sokka . So nothing ever happened between them .

Speaker 1

Oh , can I give y'all another example . I got another example for you . I just remember I was hanging out with some friends At one of these restaurants that Not there anymore , but man , it was a Popular place , at least for us and essentially me and my Friends .

There was this Waitress and essentially they were trying to like talk to her and she was like , oh well , I can't really stick around , you know , I gotta keep it moving , you know what not ?

And then I was like , hey , if you ever feel like getting in trouble , have a seat and talk to us good lord , almighty bro , you don't hesitate to drop a wrist bomb at all .

Speaker 3

You just be like alright , time to roll . See what I got .

Speaker 1

See , this is why I don't be flirting All too much , because I'm like , bro , I'll put game on you , so cold like I don't play Games when I'm like , if I'm interested , I'm on you like Syrup on pancakes .

Speaker 3

Ladies and gentlemen , our leader is a real life bard who , straight up , can pass up musical numbers and just starts flirting with the ladies Straight up .

Speaker 2

And here I am just sitting here , just happy that I have a wife and I was able to pull that shit . I'm just sitting here just happy that I have a wife and I was able to pull that shit . I'm just lucky dude , I was just lucky to be there .

Speaker 1

Sometimes that's all it takes . Man Just be at the right place at the right time .

Speaker 3

Look , look , look .

Navigating Signals in Romantic Relationships

I'm going to tell you this story . This is how it worked out for me and my wife . This is a funny thing , bro . Me and my wife were going through some bad breakups . She said that she needed a week to just let off some steam . I was like I want to be part of that week to let off some steam . That's how it worked out .

Here we are married , five kids . It worked . She shot us . There you go , it worked shoot your shots .

Speaker 1

Hey , there you go actually , you know what I'm gonna put it to you like this , because this is something that I've been observing for a while now . I am a believer of the handkerchief theory . Here's the thing you know how , most of the time it's the dude that gotta shoot his shot first , because you know like girl's not gonna be so direct about it , right ?

But back in the day I forgot which era exactly , maybe like the 20s , somewhere between the 20s and the 50s , I don't know . It was like old school . But essentially , you know how those girls are , with like the dresses and whatnot They'll have like handkerchiefs and whatnot .

A guy they're kind of digging , you know , with a fan and shit , hoping that the dude would come up be like hey , ma'am , I think you dropped this .

If she's not like giving you the signal that she want you to talk to her , I would say you know , play it safe , but if she's dropping the handkerchief on you , shoot your chop fam I'm too stupid for that shit .

Speaker 2

I am literally too stupid for that shit . That would not work on me . You gotta straight up come up to talk to me , cause I am literally too stupid to figure that shit out . I'll be like , hey , you dropped your , you dropped your handkerchief . I could be like oh my god , thank you so much . What's your name ?

Oh , my name , okay cool , it's like Thomas Mash . Peace , I gotta go . I gotta , I gotta go home and finish my bionicle set well , that's another thing .

Speaker 1

That's another thing . You don't want to make it too easy , because if you're too eager it's a kind of a turner . It's almost like a cat and mouse kind of game , to where it's like sometimes you gotta give them a little bit and then eventually you know , when it's pretty obvious y'all kind of feeling each other .

Then I would say you know , like progress it , but don't be like waiting way too long , like don't do that whole shit for too long , otherwise they just gonna feel like you're just not all the answers , you're just playing games .

You're not trying to play games , it's just more you're trying to ascertain the level of interest , because you're not a fan of having your time wasted , right ?

Speaker 2

I didn't think so yeah , I am literally too stupid . I asked my wife I am . I was literally too stupid to pick up on whatever signal she was throwing me at when we were first dating . I was literally too stupid to pick up on that shit and up to this day she'll still mention the stupid shit that I did during one of our dates .

She'll still throw it at me and she'll be like you never caught it . You never caught that signal that I was throwing at you . You never picked up on it Hold on .

Speaker 3

I won't even put in that , I won't fully put in that aspect . Now , I'll be honest , I don't know your wife , but I know for a fact that there are some ladies who will throw a signal out there , but a lot of times that signal is like a level 25 boss and you're only like level 10 , bro . You're like look .

Speaker 1

It was normally possible .

Speaker 3

I you like . Look , it was no way possible .

Speaker 1

I was gonna get that , bro like I got so used to having hints thrown at me to a point where I'm like overthinking and over analyzing . To a point where , like not , to a point where , like you know , is she kind of interested ? No , no , no , it was like you gotta gauge that level of interest .

To a point to where I'm like , is she in pressure or is she just being friendly ? It's like it took me a while to like piece it together to where , like , I'm , to a point to where I started researching shit .

To where I'm like , from now on , when I see certain signs and signals , I'm like , okay , that doesn't mean go ahead and pursue , but more like gauge you a little bit . It's like , is she just playing ? around with you , you know , in a fun way , or is she really trying to , like trying to fuck with you ?

Because , bro , believe me , once you get to a point to where you have girls telling other people , oh yeah , that's my boyfriend , even though I never even had a fucking conversation with her before , that's how you know .

Speaker 3

I mean that's when it's in your face .

Speaker 2

I don't know about that I would be literally too stupid enough to even pick that shit up . And Zaka just only exists . Zaka only exists . And all the girls are like okay , yeah , yeah , yeah , I mean , everybody likes a funny guy exists . Saka only exists . And all the girls are like okay , yeah , yeah , yeah , let's yeah .

Speaker 3

I mean okay , everybody likes a funny guy , so let's put it in that aspect . The girls really like the funny guys . That's pretty much why they always kept going after me .

Speaker 1

I was the quiet guy that was like man , I am not trying to be bothered , why ? Why can't y'all ? I'm not looking for a relationship , why can't y'all just leave me alone ? And the problem is I wasn't being rude about it , just more like , um , I'm sorry , I'm kind of looking for a way to say I'm not all that interested . But it's not personal .

You know , I was young so I was like . I was just like okay , I'll be as friendly as possible , but at the same time I got that word that says I'm not really trying to be bothered , so all I .

Speaker 2

I got that war that says I'm not really trying to be bothered . All I need to do is just show them my Magic the Gathering collection immediately . Oh my God .

Speaker 3

But , guys , let me go ahead and get off .

Marriage, Kids, Avatar

All the advice for all you people who already have , who understand me and St Thomas Mash , we already have , we're married , we have kids . Everything that JB was talking about is , for you guys , real simple , so I'll just let y'all know .

Speaker 1

Yeah , for the single pringles out there . With that being said , we're going to go ahead and wrap this up anyways . As far as Avatar , the Last Endbredder , like I said , a plus material , go watch it , go watch it , go watch it . It might . No , I think it's still on Netflix . It's still going to be on Netflix . Yeah , go watch it on Netflix if you will .

With that being said , you know the drill already . Follow us on social media if you want to Remember to stay nerdy . Great things are coming we're zoning out here . So have a good day , good afternoon , good evening depending on what time you're listening to this and just take it easy , okay .

Speaker 2

And good night .

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