¶ Attack on Titan Anime Discussion
Alright , nerds , if that time began where we at the Zellis of Nerd Entertainment talk about some epic shit . Today we're gonna talk about Attack on Titan at last , Because after 10 years , the anime finally concluded . Of course , the manga readers , we already knew what was gonna go down anyways , but it's about that time we talk about it .
So well , what further do ? Let's go ahead and zone in on it . For starters , I have to mention that we have a new voice on the podcast , Mira Jane . How you doing today ?
I'm good . I'm good , Hi everybody .
Hello , hello , and join us with the future number one hero , professor Tuck , and the Mecha Manager , talos Gundam . How y'all doing today .
Exactly Talos , I'm gonna let you go first . I'm between O and K and I know we all gonna argue and have our own sentiments , but can we collectively agree that the music is perfect ?
Bro , listen that one trailer saw , where you know his name is Aaron Yeager , and they're like oh , I fell in love with that shit .
Talos . I don't think you feel in the music .
First off , the music is so great . This is alright , man , this is alright , but just know , there is no love today . There is no love today .
Let me put my red scarf on . With my red scarf , go ahead .
Put the red scarf on , because I'm gonna say it right now for those of y'all out there Ladies and gentlemen , boys and girls , children of all ages , this is that one true Gundam , the only Gundam that should exist , into your quality of mind . Talos Gundam . What it do , what the business is , first and foremost , I'm gonna give my disclaimer for the night .
This is one of those ones that I'm gonna tell you right now . I am going to rant , I am going to rave , I am going to cuss out everybody that's on the docket . So I promise you , if this ain't for you , you might want to go away , because I want you to understand I ain't your friend tonight , not tonight , I ain't , oh yeah .
Mira Jane , I forgot to mention that Talos Gundam is our resident boogie man Like if you think I'm bad when it comes to my criticisms , oh , he'll put me to shame .
He is the toughest critic . Oh my , they call me a boogie , boogie , boogie , that's what I'm here for .
I'm here to change my mind .
Oh , she be okay , he can be the best anime of all time . He be like . It's so poor . At best I'm like God holy .
You here to change my mind .
Oh , he remind me of buddy , where he's like you know , he had that vendor boost like change my mind . I'm like , oh , it's gonna be one of those .
I'm gonna let y'all have the floor . I'm gonna let y'all have the floor .
Go ahead All right , you know what , let me just go ahead and roll right into it . So we have humanity . Over a century Humans been living in these settlements rounded by these three gigantic walls , while Maria , wall rose and wall Cena , which prevented Titan from these giant humanoid creatures who eat humans from getting in .
So the story starts up with Aaron Yeager . We have Mikasa and Armand and essentially , titans invading , wrecking shit . Mama Yeager got chomped on all this . We're not going bullshit . We normally do like reviews , like kind of like you know , give some expertise , let's be real , let's be real . This , this is attack on time .
Let's just cut the bullshit , let the nuts hang and just get right into it . All this shit . You can kind of tell that this is one of those anime series that I dare say that you you have to watch it twice . You have to watch it twice because once you get to the end and you rewatch it , you start seeing shit differently .
And I got a lot of notes , in fact , like I am going to say the same notes with our resident therapist , kalei Kaisen , later when we do the nerdy therapy session . You can listen to that when we're done with this segment .
But I got some notes that I want to pass along that specifically aimed towards Aaron , but we're going to talk about the whole thing as a whole , but I'm going to really talk about Aaron .
Now we get to a point where Aaron realized that he wants to kill all the Titans , but he's in a world where his inherent nature is contradictory to the world that they're in .
The way I see it , the world of Attack on Titan is built on a time paradox where the island was destroyed because of Aaron's lack of agency in the story , to where he was just powerless to stop all these Titans , but at the same time , he was enslaved by his own desire for freedom and he's always been this childish character Like okay , let's be honest .
Yeah , I'm getting confused just by you talking , because the plot is so much , it's so intricate . Everything is worse than Game of Thrones .
Yeah , but here's the thing Aaron's goals throughout the whole thing and I know we're jumping , but hear me out Aaron's goals was to experience his own freedom and to assure that his friend lived long lives . Right , sounds good , right .
But after he gained the full control of the founding Titan , he modified that goal to where he knew how all this is going to play out . But he had to play it out to where at least things go in on his own terms , even though he never really got what he wanted at the end .
So in the end , aaron's motivation for everything he's done was just a corruption of Armin's dream to where Armin just wanted to see the ocean and all that shit in a peaceful way , and Aaron would kill motherfuckers just to get that kind of freedom .
And I kind of feel that because it also this kind of worlds where the people of paradise were isolated on this island , they would be oppressed by everybody else that was on the outside of the island and a lot of fans felt like , oh , I understand , like they've been oppressed and we're going to rock with Aaron as he kill off 80% of the world population .
Absolutely , I'm a Yageress , absolutely , oh my God .
I was confused . I don't know if I'm a good person or a bad person , or both . I'm a Yageress , but I'm also not a Yageress . I don't know . I don't even know what I am .
Here comes the , here comes that bullshit . From the beginning I cool .
Yeah , I got to do it .
It's basically what the fuck you saying is , and I quote this is how this shit went . I killed you , but you killed me . Hey man , why the fuck you killed him ? What the fuck you mean ? I didn't kill to himself , what the fuck ? That's how this shit sounds . That's what the fuck it sounds like . So , once again , right , tackle on tight .
Ladies and gentlemen , for those of you , that's really out here and in everything else , I won't try to hear me very clearly . It sounded my voice . First things first , when you first start the fuck off , hey , yeah , it's all right , it's okay . You think you're following along anyway . No , the fuck you're not .
Because plot twist , hey , everything is fucking ass backwards . What it seems like . None of this shit exists . God damn it . Your whole fucking life is a motherfucking lie . I mean , as I , as I sit , this bar blast over here , I want you to know something right now , in your motherfucking pain . This shit here is by far the most stupidest month .
Oh , I was on . I was on the side of glory for a hot second . I was on the side of glory for a good minute . I would have been with you . However , karma , as this shit progressed , this shit got progressively worse . I'm talking about nationwide , ain't even on that side , that's just how bad . Like legit . I cannot recommend this to any people , any person .
But God damn anime I can't , because this right here is going to confuse the non believers . They're going to believe hey wait , we're part , we're part of the people that that's supposed to protect the wall . Then , by the time they get here in mid oh wait , are we protecting the wall or we're going to destroy by time it gets in ?
I don't know what I'm supposed to do .
That's a fact . That is a fact . That is a fact .
So , so , right now , right now , right , right now , right , let's we whip my fat here you go , excuse me , folks , da , da , da , da da . Welcome to Anime Sports Center .
Right now , I want you to try to prove to me , prove to me , god damn it that these numbers are , that these numbers are fucking right , because we tell you some , these numbers are fucking awful .
This is not math .
How are you supposed to be a number ? How are you supposed to be the number one draft pick ? Been the game for a whole fucking minute , getting still right now . Your numbers are trash . They're ass backwards . Tell me skip , tell me , skip .
Why .
Hey , look in order . In order to look at this , you got to look at the beginning , right , but then you got to look at the end , because the end is the beginning but the beginning is the end . It's all out of way . I don't even understand what I was understanding .
Bro , I'm going to be perfectly honest with you . This is a world that kind of sits on predeterminism , so in other words , it's like saying that essentially they were trying to argue that did if Aaron knew everything that was going to happen . Okay , I need .
The air didn't know what was going to happen . No , no , no , no , no , no no no , it starts all the way over Wait a minute .
He didn't know up until he got the felony type before the power in time , when he had the attack Titan , he only had access to Greece's memories , and that's only because the way the attack time works . It's not that they can see into the future , but they can send memories to their predecessors .
So , in other words , greece was the last person that had the attack time before Aaron . So he was able to see Aaron's memories and pretty much kind of predetermined everything was going to happen . In other words , it was all according to Keiko . Essentially , they were trying to paint Aaron Yeager as the second coming of Eisen .
I knew this was going to happen the whole time and I just decided to go along with it because fuck it , fuck it .
He also openly admits that he wasn't capable of stopping this . We get to the end of it . He openly admits that he's not the smartest .
Essentially it was like a Doctor Strange moment where I looked at all the possibilities and there is this only one possible way that this is going to play out .
But I need to make sure that it plays out on my own terms , to make sure that at the end of this all , if they take me out , at least they look like heroes as they take me out , because the main thing is the whole thing . With Aaron and Mikasa , for instance , you know how Mikasa felt about Aaron . We know like . But here's the thing .
No , they family . She said it out her mouth .
No , no , no . But here's the thing , Sweet home out .
Fuck that .
No , no , no . Let's do this the correct way , not the wrong way . Correct way , mind you . So , once again
¶ Analysis of Aaron's Transformation and Actions
, skip . I'm coming to your side you don't want to talk about , so you're going to change my mind . But see , here's these numbers , right ?
So , first and foremost , how in the hell is it that this story starts to fuck over right , I'm talking about completely starts over all the way with Callaway , starts over , yet and still , like you was first coming out here as an attack type , putting up triple digits . You put up triple digits .
All of a sudden , all of a sudden , nine halfway through this month , you start putting up college numbers . I'm talking about low level college numbers Like you not even make , like you not even making it to state in high school numbers .
That's just how this is Tell us on the next time I'm right here .
No see , yo , y'all want to make it play out like oh well , you know , maybe Aaron's still alive , maybe he's going . He got reincarnated as that bird . No see , listen , listen . Between tell us or not , I don't know about , because honestly , it was like one of my princes when it comes to anime .
So I don't know how deep you are into it , but me and tell , I know that we spun around the bar long enough to wear shit like this is not even new to us , like I'm in the trenches .
I'm deep in the trenches now . I don't see everything .
Listen , listen . The man did what he did . He's not innocent . He was never good . He never even changed as a person . He's been like this from the very beginning .
It's just that our perception of him changed the moment he gained agency , when he decided that , oh , he had that talk at Reiner and was like , oh , so are we like the same , or like the same in spirit ? And I'm like , oh well , I don't know . I was like , no , I know we're the same , it's OK , take my hand .
And then he just transforms and it's like change the whole fucking script . I'm going to be honest with you . The way I see it .
I was like yes , yes , get him .
Now , here's the thing .
He killed all of them .
Here's the thing While Aaron , he always felt this way , but it is more like he wanted to take control of the situation . To where , ok , if we're going to end the Titans , I might as well be the last monster this world has ever seen , so we can end all the Titans . But the poetic irony of it all , with the attack Titan and the armor Titan , to where ?
The armor Titan started off as the , as the antagonist alongside the colossal Titan . But the script got flipped and now I see that the attack Titan , in his truest nature , is the sword that will cut down anybody that gets in his way , and the armor Titan is the shield that cracked under the pressure .
Because when you saw Rainer realize that he has to be that reluctant , tragic hero and become the very thing that he thought that he was trying to destroy , kind of like with Aaron , and he realized , oh no , this is not what I wanted the whole time and I kind of fell in love with these people inside these walls .
I was sent here to kill them , but I'm like these actually are good as people , like we had it all wrong about these people at Paradise . They're not devil , they're only people . And he's like so what the fuck's going on . And then he just couldn't take it . So he just , you know , went into that room and he put out the shawty and he did what he did .
It's sad , but shit , like this darkness like this not even new to me . Fam , like I'm like , honestly I'm like with Aaron . I thought it was impressive that he actually got away with killing off 80% , but he didn't completely complete the rumbling , because the only way he can complete the rumbling is at the cost of killing because of an arm .
And because he didn't want to do that , he allowed them to kill yeah . So , honestly , I'm going to put you like this he's , he's still , he was the protagonist , but he's also the antagonist . Do I feel bad for him ? No , not even . Not at all .
Once again I say how it is . One more .
No , no sorry .
Once again . I say it one more time I killed you , you killed me . That concept is so fucking stupid . I swear to fucking God , okay , because one .
If you're going to be the villain , if you're going to literally go out and say , hey , you know what , I'm gonna be the villain I'm gonna be , I'm gonna be OG badass , I've got control of the one that can literally destroy it all , but in the end I give it up All because I remembered how I was the hero .
If you don't go , sit your god , the magic body having ass down from them , where I do not give two parts care .
¶ Attack on Titan Plot and Characters
This in the beginning perfect . I was so fucking perfectly perfect . It was perfect , but what the fuck happened ? They ruined it .
They did now .
I don't think it was . I think it was a well told story . It was a well told story .
Yeah no 10 years , keeping you in , thrown into a story for 10 years . It was very hard and complicated .
Fuck that shit . Once again , we still won't support some . Yeah , I know , yeah , I know how the fuck you gonna tell me it's a well played out story . It was well drawn the fuck out . No , it was the beginning . It was well drawn the fuck out . The storyline was great . I was fucking great . It was them against the fucking world skip .
Once again , once again , once again , as a rookie , he was putting the numbers up Triple digit , triple double . This motherfucker had it great . And you telling me , once you realize , oh , I became king Once they . Once he felt like he was like , oh , king James , oh shit , yeah , I'm good , I'm going , I'm in buckets inside to get lazy . They hit lazy writing .
They start in five was amazing . They start , I was amazing . That's what I'm trying to tell you . You got , you got Captain Irvin . You know me , you got Captain Levi . You know , commander , commander , commander , you got , you got Irwin .
Irwin , irwin .
Irwin , Whatever it is . I mean he was tough , he was a coach , fuck it .
He was a coach . Fuck that . Let's go ahead and put it where it is Right . Let's go ahead and put it where it is Right .
Aaron was supposed to be the star .
He was a franchise player Levi came in and saved the motherfucking day . Levi showed you .
He really did .
Levi always did .
Levi that shit .
Against the Beast Titan . That was the greatest fight , the first , the first time , the first time , not even just then .
I'm just saying that was that fight was . Epic though he was , he was already whooping ass left and right . He was this little fuck even as a little kid . Yeah , so tell me some , right .
I mean he's an acrimonium .
You saying , you saying this shit is supposed to be great . Tell me what's so great . I want to hear from you . I want to hear from you we hear from anybody else because you say you're going to sell me . You're going to sell me the cocaine that's living in front of me . I know it's drugs , I know it's bullshit . This shit back , this shit back .
Tell me why I shouldn't walk off , right fuck now . Tell me what the the big time .
It was still true in the end , that it was the Eldians versus the Marlins . It was still true . Marlins still came back and was like , nah , we still don't like all the Eldians , we still don't care . It was still true .
Yeah .
Aaron was right , he was what , what ?
No oh .
Let me just say something , let me just say something . No .
None of Aaron's actions was worth it , because it will all happen again .
Listen , listen , here's my stance . I hear where he's coming from . This is the same thing with moderate I hear where y'all coming from , but I don't control the way you're going about it . That's my main thing , because it's like hey , he's still a murder at the end of the day , he's still murder 80% of the world population .
I'm like the Thanos route , yeah , he did . It's like , yeah , we kind of we get where you're coming from , but you still I don't like , I don't know man .
I'm like you know how much space available in the world now , all because of Aaron .
I'm . It's great for the environment .
I'm trying to tell you Natural selection , I guess .
Absolutely . Hey , I want to tell y'all something I hate . I absolutely hate Connie . I could not stand him the whole the whole time . I'm so glad he'll type he deserved it . His mama deserved it for birth in him . It just was perfect . Bro , I hate Connie bro , I hate his whole character I'm just gonna like Gabby . Oh yeah . Who kept giving her a gun .
She kept giving guns out of nowhere .
And Sniper Rifle's at that .
I'm saying this girl giving all these tools .
You know what ? I'm glad y'all said that . I'm very glad y'all said that because it brings me to my next point . Sasha . Now , this chick , she was , yeah , like she was funny . She was funny in the season one , definitely , and then she evolved in season twos with she's not just a comrade character , she's like she's a little more well-rounded . Okay , fine .
But here's my thing I did not feel bad about her dying . You want to know why ? Because Sasha is more than just a person in that story . She is a symbol , a symbol of hopelessness . Why ? Because the moment you kill off someone like Sasha , that is the story telling you Shit is not going to be sweet from here on out , it is not going in .
Well , that should have been your hint and a half , right there .
Yeah , because if they kill Connie , nobody would care .
Right , but when you kill off someone like Sasha , someone that people for the most part like , I mean some people might not like her , I don't know , but for the most part I like her . So I'm saying I'm speaking for myself .
The moment I thought it gives me the feeling of it .
Start bro , pretty much . Like once you kill off that one likeable character , I'm like , oh , I know what kind of story this is . Okay , I gotcha . It's like I can make out kill . It's like Game of Thrones . It's like fucking Gronlegon We've been down this road before . Yeah is one of those stories . Okay , gotcha , but I still say it's top 10 for me .
Like I still enjoyed it for the most part , like the way it's like it kind of compelled you to like rewatch it and try to figure shit out all over again , like wait a minute , what the fuck just happened ? And then you go back and I was like , okay , okay , you did try to tell me , okay , I see , we did Check off done . I see , you see all me .
But that's me . I know it's going to rip this show a new asshole . I'm like in my credit . I'm like , look , five star anime in my opinion . I don't care , but it's not a perfect story , but it was a great story in my opinion . You know what you got ? Anything Anybody .
Look , look , I understand . Yeah , it was great . It was great for what it was at the point . But I'm still saying how it is they fucked up . They fucked up bad . So don't look at me sideways for saying what fuck I said . I had a great storyline to begin with . Why the fuck is it that you're going to go and be like you know what Shit ?
Hey , we are already killing everybody off . Let's just go ahead and just reverse this shit . What , what , why we gonna go back to the beginning ? Why , yeah , yeah , now he got his memories back , now he realized he a villain . I mean , but if you're going to quit with this . Amnesia ass trope , nope , nope , talos bad , talos bad .
Sometimes writers literally try they hard , so you go , gone back over him , yeah .
All right , I have a question .
Go ahead .
Ask it Irwin or Armin , who should have been saved ? Oh , oh , I got Armin . Neither one of them .
It's the damn point , neither one . Let them both die . Let them both fucking die . God damn it .
It's a dark fantasy story . People are going to die . I'm like I'm not surprised . I'm like , eh , what ? Yeah , he is the same right . So ?
but , Levi Levi fulfilled his last order by killing Zeke , so you know what I mean . He , you know Armin should have survived . And then Armin , you know , I don't know , I kind of didn't like Armin . I like how smart he was but he wasn't really showing his smart strategy .
This tool saying Armin got more people killed .
He saved more people too . I don't know the commander was that .
I just see with Irwin , same thing with Sasha . In my opinion it's like he was the kind of guy that kind of inspired hope and camaraderie and whatnot . But this is a dark fantasy story . I just kind of knew he was going to bite it at some point . I just didn't know when , I didn't know how , but I just had a feeling he was going to bite it somehow .
With Armin it would kind of make sense for him to survive . But at the same time I'm like I just can't imagine this kid reproducing with some chick .
Yeah , wait , wait .
With that coconut head , Justin Bieber .
Irwin went out like a G2 . Oh my , his death was perfect . That's how he envisioned his own death . Had to . He wanted to die as a true soldier . Yeah , and when Levi saluted those dead scouts I was like , oh my , that's perfect .
I had some tears on me . Oh who will song we haven't talked about yet . Oh , what's his face ? John , you know the dude that wanted to be in military police , but he had in the yeah , jean , john . How were they pronounced Like ? See the kind of pronounced name .
So , sean , it's like it's Sean John , jean John .
John Pierre or whatever .
Pierre Escargot .
I mean we can't do that because like we be getting like some people from different area codes and overseas , so we can't be too .
That's all that . That's all that . That is Keenan . The 90s was lit , true , I don't know . He ain't really like responsibility . He wanted to live a good , easy life , which you know , that's . I wanted to do that too .
But once again , this is one of those stories where it's just not going to be sweet for you . Life is not fair . You're going to have to fight , kid , so get on that front line . We need you .
We need you more than they'll ever need you I wish he would have took more charge , though he should have been taking , you know , more responsibility and more charge for him would have probably been perfect as an Indian , not .
Well , yeah , but that's just the thing , like , if you started off that way , then I guess it's just rounds out his character . Yeah , it just kind of rounds out his character . We're okay he , he wanted to be that little not knows on kid when , oh yeah , I'm going to live that cushy life and I don't have to worry about shit .
And then he realized that , yeah , it's just not sweet for you , man , you got to have been a time too , because he was so would have been drinking that wine , the spine wine . I know you would have been .
Man , I can't even picture him as a , as a tight I don't know , but okay .
Oh , what was that ? That old , the other commander that turned into a Titan , the ball head one with the mustache Turned into a Titan man . He was so ugly as a Titan . I was like , yeah , he looks almost exactly the same , but he just looks so weird as a Titan . You know , I'm talking about the ball head dude .
Yeah , I don't Fuck .
He was . He was the commander , after the commander , after the commander , that it was so many deaths . Yeah , boy , those commanders was not last the boy .
I mean yeah , like you know people next man up . Yeah , next .
Wait , not to go to the mustache .
Yeah , the mustache . Yeah , it was when it was , when , after everybody that drunk the wine , turned into Titans . He was the commander of the uh the uh the interior .
Oh , that guy . Okay , I remember now . Yeah , I mean I didn't pay that
¶ Attack on Titan Theories and Discussion
much attention to long story . I'm sorry it just some , some of the shit , just some details , honestly kind of got blurred . So that's why , once again , I'm saying that it's one of those series where I'm going to have to like look at it more than one so like get the whole picture after 10 years .
Yeah , yeah , Like see that's the thing like with all the okay to be fair between season one and season two because of structure , because they want to make sure that season two kind of go out in a bang and then season three , okay , starts off slow , but then it goes off in a bang in their way , and I kind of get that .
So that's why they kind of waited four years . But , um , sometimes those fighting scenes , like for instance that Levi versus Beast Titan scene , did you know that it took four months just to make 45 seconds of that shirt ? See , it was worth it , yeah .
So that's why I'm saying like I kind of I'm not saying that , I'm going to be kind of understand why , uh , with the handle , you know what . You know what happened .
Studio Wit was working on Attack on Titan for a while and then , well , I want to say season four and onward , or maybe the final season , that's when the guy handed over to Studio Mappa and with Mappa , ah , there's some shit going on with Mappa to a point where they're kind of putting some pressure on the animators and people are going on striking shit .
And let's just say that , um , mappa's been on some bullshit for a while now . So I kind of see why I tell him saying like , at some point , there's just something about Attack on Titan .
He just , you know , had something , then , you know , losing us , um , but I feel like there's some correlation , um , but for the most part I still kind of enjoy the attack . I'm trying , for the most part , like it's .
I just kind of wish the season came , I like , a little bit more quicker , so that way it would have finished like maybe two , three years sooner and it would have everything would have stuck more better , instead of me going back and listen , looking at all this and like let me see if I'm not missing anything , oh fuck , I'm just a lot of shit happening .
But um , mirajani , you have some theories on Attack on Titan . Um , what were they ?
Oh hold on .
Take it time .
Oh , it's some juice in the fridge .
Take it time . Oh , oh , oh . So I had this theory that Attack on Titan was connected to the Promise Neverland and Promise Neverland is the aftermath of Attack on Titan . Because , it makes even more sense now that it's over , because when in the second season of Promise Neverland , they're in the woods right .
And all of these are all the kids and they're going through , and there's this main focus on this one tree and , for some odd reason , attack on Titan was obsessed with one tree . So , and then you guys think about it , the Titans do eat people , and why not breed the best of children to feed to the Titans , to keep them at bay , right ?
So this is like a what if scenario on what if ? Aaron succeeded , right , and we just had nothing . The Titans left and the Marlions were only left to exist . Why not , you know , raise up your smart and intellectual children and feed them to the Titans to keep them at bay ? But that's my theory .
Okay , I can kind of see it , but I'm going to have to debunk that Promise Neverland With Promise Neverland . First of all , I think those creatures that the children being fed to were demons , not exactly Titans , and that would have worked if it was something like what Hero Masima did with , you know , rave Master , fairy Tail .
I think they're trying to do it with Eden Zero or whatever , maybe that new manga that's coming out that he's working on . But point being is that they have a shared universe where there might be some elements from different stories that might bleed into the other , like blue , you know , the carrot nose dog . They just send almost every one of his fucking shits .
So it's kind of like , okay , that little wink right there , it would have made sense in that sense . But not only it's not even by the same studio , but not the same writer even did Promise Neverland and Attack on Titans . So unless Isayama and whoever wrote Promise Neverland got together and was like , hey , yo , so what if we connected our stories ?
No , I don't see it . I'm sorry , I don't see it . I mean , I kind of like the idea , but I just don't see it . Yeah , who wrote this on ? Kairu Shirai did Promise Neverland and Isayama did Attack on Titans . So I can't see how they like almost the same . Well , not concept , but like elements . It's similar elements , but nah , it wouldn't connect very well .
That's just me .
Bro and Mikoso was kissing Aaron's head bro , decapitated head I was like what ? Why is she kissing this head ?
You know it gotta be one of those last sentiment things to where you know , indian , she still has love for Aaron , even though I would have kicked that head .
¶ Attack on Titan Debate as Mecha Anime
I got a question for y'all and it's kind of getting weird that people are saying this , because personally I don't see it . But oh my God , I'm going to say this and I know this is going on Chapped pillows , ass .
I know what you're going to say All hell loose right .
No , no , no , God damn it . Well , do the Kogai review soon . God damn it , took , I got you but chill . But in related note , attack on Titan Does it count as a mecha anime or not ? I keep people keep saying it does and I don't see it .
But let me ask y'all , I don't see it either .
Like see , look , I don't . I didn't see a single giant robot being piloted by a human in that show . I just saw a bunch of humans transforming into giant humanoid that happens to be cannibals .
So what are you doing ? It's probably the ODM here , but that's probably scientific advances Like technically , technically those robotics is scientific advancement as well , which is probably what they get in that it's a hard stretch and sale oh yeah , yeah , but no , stop that , please stop that . No , I wouldn't consider it mecha .
Yeah , I like it would have been dope if , if humanity would have came up with any kind of mecha design .
But I mean they wouldn't , have the material .
They wouldn't . They would run out of material .
Yeah , like , can you imagine if they were like working on making giant robots to fight the Titans ? Like , ok , I see where y'all going this . Ok , at least y'all trying to give yourself a fighting chance without having to become a Titan to fight Titans . Yeah , I kind of get that . Yeah , not , that's not the route they went .
But they probably could get more materials if say they don't know destroy 80% of the population .
Yeah .
I think they can do it .
Oh , the characters these are like the baby scene , that little baby . The little baby Titan .
Yeah , no , the baby in the colors came back and it was all beautiful .
Oh yeah , that was good . I'm sorry , I'm kind of fading , I've seen that baby ?
I said forget that baby . Yeah , I ain't care about . No , like all care about was 80% of the population being destroyed . They should have went for 92 . Because ain't nothing worse than a human . Humans . Don't start everything all over again . They should have just they should have wiped all the memory . That's what the founder did .
Right , Right who did that , he couldn't wipe the memories of the aftermines , though .
Yeah , I mean kill all the aftermines . See how that bullshit that you talking right now . Kill all the aftermines , see that bullshit that you talking right now , right , I mean , this is goat level bullshit . I'm talking about goat tear oh you heard that Mecca stuff . Oh , I heard it all . I heard it all . I heard it all over here .
I want to see how far y'all are going to go down the rabbit hole , this shit .
I want to see just how far y'all want to go down .
I did , I did . I want you to know something . I want you to know something Once again . Once again . It seems y'all thought I was the Lulu . No , these , these other ones look pit as more the Lulu than me , because ain't no way in the world you gonna sit here and tell me oh yeah , you know , shouldn't have stopped at 80% , she's going for 90 .
So we just going to allow mass genocide ? Oh okay , big feet , that's what I'm saying .
I'm like bro , I can't let that slide .
But you are you already at 80 . What's another 10 ?
What's another 10 ? First off , why are we going to even 80 at this point ? Beginning ?
I mean , we're all a little mass genocide .
Skip . This is why you can't . This is why you can't tell me name . You can't . Look look when it's okay .
But it was okay when he did it .
First off , I want you to understand something right . What you understand Some right . Listen to me . Listen to me . I'm gonna say this for a while . I'm a big Thanos fan . I'm a villain . Most people call me Thanos . I'm a villain Wholeheartedly . However , comma , however , comma . When Thanos did it for a chick , that was the full bitch .
Lady death . He did it .
And the funny part is Lady devil rather chill with Deadpool than Thanos Wait , wait , wait , wait .
I'm confused , now I'm confused . Yep , yep Comic book canon , that was in the movie .
No , no comic book comic book canon .
I need a further explanation .
Oh , oh , oh , let me . Let me hit you with it , right ? So , even though it's not , it's not in the movies . In the movies , he did it to protect everybody in the universe from the Celestials . But that wasn't the only reason . In the comics , in the comics , he did it because of that , but also because he wanted to impress Lady death .
But Lady death didn't give two fucks about him . Lady death didn't care about him . Lady death would rather knock boots with the one motherfucker that can literally fuck him up seven ways a Sunday . So , yeah , he got upset about that . Yeah , but back to this bullshit . Hand Cause , I'm gonna try to nose on him , right , goddamn skip .
I'm gonna be up here and tell my son , I'm gonna swear , I'm gonna get you inside .
I'm sitting here thinking there's no way you're gonna get me to agree that mass genocide was the answer . I'm sorry .
There's no fucking way .
No way .
Goddamn what you gonna tell me . Oh man , the whole problem .
Ladies were fused to change . What are you supposed to do ? It's to give up their ideas .
Give it you all right . Want to know what you can do .
No , listen , I'm a business .
It make you think about our current society and what would happen if other stuff happened .
You're right . You're right . But when we tell you something and this is something I fucking hate Goddamn , they turned Aaron into a goddamn I'm gonna fucking stand on business . Nigga Type of nigga . He don't stand on business , he stand for stupidity .
I mean , I can't tell me , being serious , y'all can't tell me legitimately that any of that bullshit , any of it , would have worked out . We're in the hell In the Titan fucking Playboy . When any of that had worked out , it would have worked out .
It wouldn't because you .
All you had to do was wipe the memory , because of his fucking father , because of everybody , including himself . The motherfuckers put themselves into a perpetual loop .
Yeah , yeah , like , basically , aaron was like gaslighting Zeke and his father on the whole time . You remember that one scene with the Rice family was like , okay , grisha was sent to kill them all , but that wasn't his memory , that was Aaron's memories , that was . You know . I already explained that
¶ Discussion on Aaron's Motives and Actions
shit . But then Aaron was sitting standing over this . Dude , I'm like amen , I thought you supposed to be about your shit , like what . I thought you came here to kill the Rice family , so you might as well go ahead and do that shit , pick up that fucking knife and finish what you started .
I thought you supposed to stand on business , nigga .
Yeah , he did say that that now he did .
Yeah .
But like I said , what you doing . Get that night . Like I said , I did it Right . Once again , once again , because y'all still keep up here , still trying to be like , oh yeah , oh yeah , this shit gonna work out . Yes , them dumb motherfuckers put themselves into what is known as a goddamn loop . They got them .
They got them getting jutsu , the entire fucking world and themselves included .
Pretty much yeah .
Okay , can we just start with Yamir ? Yeah , can we go back to the person who really started all of this ? If Yamir Yamir really started this loop because she fell in love with her abuser , okay , stockholm syndrome .
It's a motherfuckin , it's a motherfuckin thing and that shit exists . Yeah , you right , you dance . All right , you dance all right . High up a comma , high up a comma , right . I want you to know something . You know something , right ? That don't . That don't is huge shit .
That don't is because a motherfuckin man them kids dumb as fucking rocks when you are giving the keys to break everybody out of the fucking ginjutsu and you start on the path , but then you remember , wait , I started the ginjutsu , I must finish it . Then you lock yourself and everybody else in there , bitch .
It's a self-fulfilling prophecy .
Man , once again I'm told motherfuckers buy writing stories while you smoking K2 . That shit don't work out . I don't like that shit .
See what happened was . Are you all familiar with Newcombe paradox ? Yeah , it's essentially where , say , for instance , you're playing this game and one of the players can predict the future . If it's already predetermined , then what's the point ? That's pretty much it . There was no point .
Even Aaron admitted himself while he was talking to Armin , like that little cut scene where he was like okay , Armin kind of knew the whole time that Aaron had some kind of plan , but Aaron wouldn't tell him the whole thing , Not at first , but he eventually laid it all out on the table eventually .
But over time it's like Armin kind of knew that Aaron was up to something but he didn't know what it was . And Aaron was like at this point , like you know what , man , I don't know why , I want to do it , I just want to do it . I see , that's just the thing . It's almost like that one time .
And see , that's why with Sword Online it kind of made me a little cautious , where on one translation they may sound like Kayaba just had like no fucking reason to trap thousands of people inside his game , to have them like kill themselves or whatever , and made it sound like oh , I forgot why I even did this in the first place .
No , like he had a reason , but the Japanese and English translation kind of fucked it up . But the Japanese translation gave a more solid reason and that's understandable . But that's just my thing . It's like you mean to tell me . It's like , essentially , there's like no real reason why Aaron should commit to activating the rebel and other things .
And well , he received these memories that he was going to do it . So it just sounded like something that he would do because it's inherent nature to where he always wanted freedom and he would kill anybody to get that freedom , Even as a little kid .
When he like trying to save Mikasa from those guys that were trying to sell off the Japanese people because Japanese people were rare in that world , and he ran in there trying to stab that man , I'll kill you . Yeah , I'll kill you . Yeah , I'm like bro .
it's like Aaron has always been a stone cold murderer . He's like dude but he come to us .
He's always been like that .
And y'all have sympathy for this dude . I'm sorry .
Like look and he slept like a baby after too . You know Listen he even gave her his scarf .
As an antagonist . I like Aaron as a character . I kind of like where they were trying to go with him , but I don't sympathize with what he did , but like he's still a murderer .
Bro after he killed them two when he was little . Then Mikasa started killing everybody for him Like golly .
It'll be awakened her acumen abilities yeah .
And that's . That was another thing , like how some people were saying that oh , do you really love me or do you just love me because you're an acumen and I'm a Titan ?
Oh , that was a weird thing , I didn't even , yeah . Hey , you know what ?
was crazy If Mikasa would have just gave him some cheeks when he asked how she felt . None of that shit would have happened .
Oh , she's None of that . Shit would have happened .
See cheeks . Unite us all .
I mean , I think that's what my that was . That was what I was trying to say .
I think Mikasa wanted Aaron to get the cheeks , but the thing is , aaron was like our love could never be , because I already know how this is going to play out and I don't want you getting involved in what I'm going to do , so I would prefer if we just not even go down that road , because if you going down this road with me , you're going to die and I
don't want you to die . I know you want to live for me , but I'm not going to allow you to die for me .
I mean at least I had a baby that was going to continue the seasons to make it , and that's the thing like he even .
He was even saying like bro , there was even a moment where I thought you know what , when all this is over , I'm going to run away with you . We're going to share our lives together . But no , no , I want to do the rumbling . I'm like why ? I'm like I don't know why , I just want to do it .
What is committing
¶ Attack on Titan Anime Continuity Discussion
to doing . The rumbling actually broke the cycle that you're mere started , because all of the founders . They would get their memories and be like no , let me just die out . In the next 14 years .
I mean , that's pretty much what .
I mean what is his whole entire purpose was to break the cycle .
Hold the hell on .
Now you want to sit here and be like wait , what is ? His whole entire purpose and process skip was to break the whole entire cycle . Once again , we roll back and I'm going to roll with me on this one . We roll back to the point that I just made right about hiding the fuck . You supposed to start off breaking the goddamn ezenagi curse , right ?
But yet still you put everybody else back into it . So now all it does is , if you watch it from the end , like you all have said , you got to watch this bitch twice . And if you watch it twice , you got to watch it three times why ? Because you're basically going into a fucking loop . This shit was redundant from the get go .
If his daddy had had some balls and either a just decided you know what , we're going to erase everybody memory , or B left everybody alone and just say , hey , we're going to fight these other fuckers , like we supposed to .
Or at the very least when Aaron was giving him some shit , I'm like look , here I'm . I'm your father , you're not gonna talk to me .
You can leave me like you left the rest of your family .
This one in my wallet .
Look , here I am .
You know what would have been crazy if he would have named his name , his name , aaron Zeke , and he had two Zeke's . Just you know what we should name them . See , we get the name from all know . That's just thought of . Hey , you know .
Right now . Right now .
What about around ? The y'all like runner .
He was . He was alright at first , but then he was kind of going out kind of sad .
Season two to three was peak for him . You know we hear identity disorder . I .
Mean the review .
I kind of like to review it because the way they try to made it all subtle and shit like oh , by the way , I'm the armored tighten , he's a call so I like , oh , so y'all just doing that casual , like that , and then that transformation they made it look as epic as possible , kind of do a little contrast to where it's like oh , so y'all made the reveal
casual shit , but then when y'all decided to transform and prove that y'all are the colossal and armor tight and y'all just made the Animation for all that shit like as epic as possible , you know , I'm like , yeah , okay .
So Titan colossal is shit .
I Mean I wasn't a fan , look , understand that it was kind of hard between trying to blend in 2d and 3d animation , but I Was just not digging the final look on the colossal , even though I understand that he had to like , do like more movement than just like static movement , like it's not like the second time he showed up , you know , when Aaron was thinking
like , okay , yeah , but we just graduated from the Academy , we're gonna do this , you're gonna hunt down the Titan , and then they see , you know that's close to tight just pops up and then he has that fight . It's not like that .
To where it's like okay , the Animation for the cost , I was a little bit cleaner , but with this one it was like okay , because you have to actually See him like , like , attacking and whatnot , like more fluidly is like oh man , it's not gonna look good because the design of the Colossal Titan is gonna make the animation of it even harder .
So you can kind of tell they had that like cut corners with some of the design . So I'm like ah , I was not a fan of that , but I was
¶ Attack on Titan Characters and Themes
. I did like how the fact that Reiner was the armored Titan and Bertolt was the Colossal Titan . And then you once again rewind and you look at the shit . It's like bro Aaron told y'all about how , oh yeah , I watched my mom get Eating by a Titan and they would just sit in there like , oh damn , bro , that sucks man .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , play a hand in that shit and the Oscar goes to , because they played that shit off like they had nothing to do with that shit . Yeah .
Why Connie tried to feed old buddy to his mama . I Really hated that . That's why I couldn't stand him already and I couldn't stand him for that . He wasted a whole half of episode Trying to go save his mama . She was there for four years .
Oh yeah .
No Trying to save the world . Jesus Christ but having the . But Connie . What one thing I did like about Connie was , you know , he did save Armin , he . They went there to kill their friends . Oh man , armin couldn't do it .
We can . I mean , armin's always been a passive it .
So he was . The mouth was just hanging out open . Oh yeah , dude , shoot him . Shoot him . I yeah , let Connie do it , connie .
I'm like Armin was never really a fighter , I mean , even with a Titan . I'm like he was never really built to be a fighter . He was more like a thinker , tattition , a politician , you know the the kind of guy that the diplomat in the sense of like he's not a fighter .
You know what , as I say to think about it , skip Armageddon . I have been saying I mean .
Yeah , armin had more experience Earned . It was actually a diplomatic person .
Hey , he stood on business .
Yeah , y'all ain't got .
But y'all ain't got but one or two more times with that stand on business .
My boy let a whole troop today there , oh horses , for no reason . How you get people to do that ? Can't get people do . It was his voice , yeah , the majestic voice .
That that don't mean shit . That don't mean he was standing on business , he could have got . He could have got he could have got .
I don't know .
He could have been one of those things to where you know , oh well , you know that should sound good .
So he might have got an endless .
It's like saying man , I don't know what the fuck you saying , but it's so good , so we rocking .
I want to pick neither fucking one . You had to save somebody . Oh okay , cool , cool , bet . Guess what , guess what , guess what I'm gonna say . Guess what the fuck I'm gonna say ? I'm gonna put a bullet in both the motherfucking head . I saved some space . Goddamn it , that's free issue .
You saved some time .
I need it later .
I agree that there's nothing wrong with a little bit of mass , you know .
No , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no skip , no , don't you dare , that's your mama . However , however , comma Listening , listening clothes , mass fucking genocide is never okay . I'm never . I don't give a damn if he , I'm gonna damn if it said hey , we're gonna save the rest of the population , but we just got to kill this group of people here .
Oh , okay , cool , these big oh , you know what ?
You know what ? First of all , I'm gonna say that I agree with Talos . But let me add on to that , I'm getting prepared to do a review on Twilight and , by the way , I am not gonna be nice about this review on twilight . I'm gonna have shit bricks on this whole franchise , sparkly bitches , yeah .
But here's the thing no , listen , listen , in the very first movie , edward , he was selling this girl . Listen , I kill people , I am a murderer . And she was like , oh well , you know , that's cool .
That's what that children , that's what we , that's what we call stupidity , that's what we call that . I understand , I want , I want you know something . Matter of fact side , no , it's a hot fucking note . I understand , right , because of this , furries were boring everything else because , ooh , you're supposed to make monsters relatively Fun and nice .
Guess what , ladies and gentlemen , they're the ladies this gun them whole hardly , can tell you whole hardly . I'm not nice . I'm afraid I'm not nice . My , my OC's free . She and he is not nice . They're not nice . They're not nice a bit . Why do you ask ? Because , at the end of the fucking day , they're monsters . They have to fight for survival .
Yeah once again , ladies and gentlemen , I say this for the people in the back drugs are bad , okay , stockholm syndrome is bad . We're not here to placate you with your victims . We're not here for you to be like oh yeah , the predator . This predator loves me , so I gotta love him back . It's okay , I know he's just not tell us listen that shit .
You know what you know . I think this is Just the whole thing's weird . Oh well , you know he may have done a lot of bad shit , but I can fix him , I can save him . It's okay , Like like he didn't do anything wrong . Listen , listen , like they're still good in him . I'm like you know , Aaron .
Aaron is doing this for the great guy ? What ?
you say you even need to attack . He even need the attack time to be a monster , like he was ready to kill people . What a fucking butter knife .
It's this man too , I can fix one I want to say they can change . I don't want him to change that out there . I don't want to change it up . If it went for the , if it went for the point being , if it went for the simple yet Go ahead , that that people say they are in a certain universe . You know and everything else and whatnot . Guess what .
I understand it , but I really wish beyond the entire shadow of a doubt that these motherfuckers somehow , some way we're to end up in the Animated universe of common writers . Why do you ask ? Because that means they are on the side of a world , just literally in case by them . Okay so then that way , if I just want to , I could drop a comment in there .
I think One tight into another , tight , you get a kick , you get a kick , you get a kick and watch them all die in peace . Fuck then .
Erin said , and he didn't . Let me tell you how Aaron stood on business Season one , episode one . He said he wanted to kill all the Titans . Did all the Titans die ? So throughout all the seasons he stood on motherfucking business Fact . Now , that that's not it . That's concluded . I got a question .
Okay , who is your favorite character and why is it captain Levi ?
So happy you knew , I'm so happy you knew . Yes , captain , levi cat and Levi could give it . We gonna stand on business round , okay .
I'm gonna kill you , but .
You just dance .
My boy . He going for the fingers . First you go for the fingers , you can't touch nothing , and then you can save . Your neck is old . Oh , that boy . Levi man , I'm gonna go watch that scene with the Beast Titan again . She's Gonna post that on my tiktok .
Okay , my bad , y'all like my connection was being weird , like , yeah , I was , I couldn't hear y'all at first and then it just cut on me . I did not hear shit . What were you saying ?
I'm a captain . Levi was a he our favorite character with that really , we all think .
Kaleeva still on business as it is , as it stands and as it should be . I must leave you all because , hey , I have a D , I have a D&D game . I have to go do , however , come up before I leave . I want to make this statement very much so , skip , thank you so much for coming in . This was very fun and entertaining with you .
¶ Attack on Titan's Rating and Ending
I enjoyed this shit , but you still have not sold me on Attack on Titan . You have not sold , especially now in the later seasons .
Oh .
I can give my rating to this now , as a whole attack on Titan has earned a 2.5 for me . No , a 2.5 out of out of 10 . Yeah , once again , y'all know I get ready , mary and Joseph not based on five . I give a rate ratings based on a 10 and it got a 2.5 out of 10 .
The first seasons , the first season , if I was going to do the first few seasons , first seasons , yes , they're great , they're awesome . They're awesome , they deserve that nine . They deserve that nine . But as you get into later seasons , no , it waxes and it wanes off and that's something I cannot deal with . That's , that's something I cannot deal with .
That's , if I'm being real serious , it was basically like you do the rush job and even in the manga , even in the manga , it seems like y'all were just trying to get through this Because this is not what you want it to do . Hmm , so it's like you're grasping for straws and it doesn't , and it doesn't sit well with me .
This is one of the few anime I give a low score to . That started off good , so good , wholeheartedly no , but with that I I bid you all I do for the night . Um , I will catch you all later on nerdy news . Yes , there love you all stay nerdy number . Peace , as always , stay nerdy . See y'all later .
All right , oh , just to prevent outages on my end . So we just gonna go and wrap this up Because I'm sorry y'all , like the editing is gonna be kind of weird , like trying to get this together but maybe , um , trying to do something about it later .
All right , cool . Forget what , forget what he's on about . 7 out of 10 . All right , I got it , let's try it . Rated one through 10 8.7 .
Well , I do the story system . So it's a five-star anime for me because I just feel like , with the way they did the characters , the plot alone is five-star .
Yeah , plot idea like the plot like well , at least what they were trying to go for with it and the animation , very distinctive is like you're not gonna find an art style Like attack or Titans anywhere else , so I count . I like how memorable that art style is , especially that one scene to wear that one person , yelena , and she just had that ugly ad .
Look on that her face . Y'all know that look and it . It just kind of sticks with you , like this certain Art styles that you know kind of sticks , and obviously the music was great yeah .
Six point five out of ten .
Okay .
Yeah , it was solid what I Compared to all the animes I've watched over a long period of time . Spent a lot of anime but I can . I give it a six point five out of ten .
Would it be your top ten ?
It's in my top 15 . I ain't gonna tell you what's in my top .
I'll just . I don't know if it will be in there top 15 . Yeah this is a long list of anime but , yes , solid story .
I loved the topics they really touched on . They touched on like oppression and the rejection of that oppression and how Erin really dealt . I loved how they show those emotions and went through that . It's not a lot of stories that can do that and start off with so much action and so much passion and then and carry themselves for ten years right .
So I gotta give it a solid six point five because it did keep me for ten years . I can't say it didn't . I was ready for the next season .
Yeah , I just didn't like all the parts . Part four , season 567 . This is the final season , part three like I leave .
This is final season . Part three , second core .
Bro , just finish it and then drop the season .
Yeah , that was very annoying . Like , bro , I had Co-workers and whatnot and we were talking about how , bro , like , did they really had to cut it up like this ?
Every time and you like , okay , that's it , but then that's another part .
Then next we get some movie because they in finish cuz I came back from the dead like Godly .
Literally only two episodes came out this year and they had to split up in six months , six months apart , crazy . But you know , at the end of all , I Kind of enjoy the journey . Of course , not everybody's going to like attack on Titan , but you know , two-easter own with the meat cake , you know whatever .
With that being said , let's go ahead and wrap this up . We're gonna have our nerdy therapy session with Cali coming up on rather than this . So , with that being said , let's just go ahead and jump into that . All right , now joining me on the attack on Titan review is my boy playboy how you doing today , man ?
I'm doing good , my god , you're doing .
I'm doing good , I'm just chilling . Attack on Titan . That's after ten years , the anime fighting concluded . How you feeling ?
Oh bro , I was literally right before this segment . I was just talking to my girl about it because it's like I wish I could start and watch attack on Titan again from the beginning , Just to see all the foreshadowing . But I'm gonna go back and watch it again .
No , that's the thing . That's just the thing . You have to watch it twice . That's what .
Yeah , definitely have to watch it again . But like I'm gonna go back and see , like if I can Know this , the foreshadowing that was thinking there was a lot since season one , but the ending , perfect . Man , like I'm not , I know it wasn't a happy ending , but right it was .
I Feel like it was an appropriate ending , like like right , you have to understand it from both sides Situation like everyone wasn't wrong . Like I don't think right , his , I don't think his , his approach to the situation was wrong . Also , I want to say he wasn't wrong because he didn't have a choice .
When he was talking to Armin about it , he said he tested this theory , he tried it , he , there's nothing he could do about it . This is destiny , this is fate , these these having memories of the future . So it's like he remembered this gunna happen . I don't even know how that type of oxymoron happens . Attack on Titan is just a fucking mind , fuck bro .
But it's like man , that ending was perfect . Levi shed his first tear in the whole series . Oh , yeah , yeah , it was a very heartfelt final chapter , man , and I'm glad to be here for it . I'm glad I got the witness that I'm not gonna lie .
Yeah , I think I did Alright . Well , I got some notes for you and I pretty much agree with you on the
¶ Eren's Drive for Freedom in Attack
most part . With Eren , I feel like I understand where he's coming from with wanting freedom . But here's the thing the world of Attack on Titan is based on a world of predeterminism . So in other words , he , like you said , he really didn't have a choice in a matter , because the memories that he was getting is not that he was seeing to the future .
Well , he was , but at the same time he was receiving memories from his father's past . Remember , he was the previous Attack Titan . So Grisha was getting memories from Eren's future , but at the same time Eren was getting memories from his past . So it would make it look like he knew about he gonna activate the rumbling .
But it wasn't until he got to the founder that he got full control and he realized how everything was gonna play out and he was like , okay , it's already too late with my actions , so the best thing I can do is make my friends look like heroes as they try to take me out .
So it's like a cold Gia's type situation where , you know , lulus , he became this emperor , dictator type dude and he got his buddy to . You know , take him out , you know kind of stage and stuff like that .
Oh yeah , like with the Tajin and Sasuke .
Right . See , in a way it's like it had to be set up like that . It was like a Doctor Strange moment where they thought of all the possibilities and it's like this is the only way you can play out right , even though , yeah , eren died after all that .
I'm like yeah , I'm not new to shit like this and also you gotta consider it's gonna be kind of awkward having to do that . Killed off , 80% of the world population is running around like nothing happened .
I don't know . Yeah , somebody gonna get that execution . Yeah , that was , that's wicked man .
Yeah , but oh yeah , I got my notes .
So essentially , eren's drive and motivation for freedom was a corruption of Armin's Charlie Wonder , which , meaning that from the moment he had that , they were looking at that book about the ocean and all that , while Armin was looking at it as oh , the outside world sounds great , and Eren looked at that is like , yeah , real great , how come we don't got that ?
And then that's when it's already began .
Yeah , yeah , because it's like damn this what they've been keeping us from , like y'all keeping all this good shit to yourself , this green and nature , like I mean bro , it's like Wakanda in reverse . Yeah , basically yeah .
Yeah , it's like everybody's closed off on this one island and the Marlins . And everybody was like , yeah , y'all need to stay right where y'all are . And everybody was like no , that's not fair , especially Eren .
He was like no , that's not fair , we need to , we deserve to experience this world , just because , you know , we came from this lineage of Titan shifters and whatnot . Like no , that's not fair .
And there was like some political aspect that got misconstrued on Twitter , of course , but honestly think the storytelling was very great , where it was not only one big check off gun like what we just discussed , where essentially some of the details that we kind of overlooked was actually more important than you think when you see it play out at the end .
So you have to go back and see all those little details . You're like , oh shit , they did try to tell us . Like , for instance , the main thing is Aaron Yeager . I thought he had a negative change arc , but no , it was a flat change , or he never changed as a person .
Only our perception of him changed to where we thought he was like okay , here's this annoying loud mouth kid . Think he's gonna kill all the Titans . Okay , whatever , whatever .
And then he we thought that , okay , he changed where it's like okay , he's the villain , he's pretty much making things happening with the rumbling , but the thing is it was all based on this desire for freedom . It was always to make sure that him and his friends can run around free to do whatever they want .
It was always about that , but the way he went about it was different . But his motives , his attitude , that was all the same .
I mean , think about it was the same kid who saved Mika from those people that were trying to round up the Japanese people , and he was like stabbing dude , like I'll kill you , I'll kill you and I'm like bro , like you're not surprised that the dude that was like stabbing a dude , like like a little menace , turned out to be the dude that killed up 80% of
the world population .
I am not surprised yeah , now you know what . We've been seeing , that in scary movies the killer usually starts off as a child with it or twisted in some type of way .
We should know , yeah , and he needed therapy and funny enough , I'm gonna have a nerdy therapy session with our resident therapist after this segment that's crazy .
That's funny because I'm just saying this dude definitely is fucked up because , think about it , he is in a world where he's not allowed to have freedom , but he's the type of dude that wants freedom more than anybody else . It was like born in the wrong world in a sense , and it feels unfair . But that's just a thing .
Life is unfair , kind of like that , to where sometimes we're born with disadvantages and you see , all these other people have born into money or born into having like these really good looks and whatnot they taking advantage of well , not in a malicious way , but , you know , playing by their strengths kind of way , and I can't even be mad at them , but it's more
like damn dawg . It's like everybody else seem to be having a whole lot easier and they hear us street nerds where , okay , we're trying to make things happen , but sometimes it just seems like we were just born in the wrong spots .
Because , you know , if we were like born in like the bigger cities or the cities where you have like more opportunities open to us , then there'll be a whole different story . But we were dealt the cars that we were dealt and Aaron was in the same boat where he was dealt the car that he was given and he had to play him .
I mean , the world is cruel man , it is cold and I understand where he comes from , in a sense , where you know , growing up before you see , tap , you know , send the titans , breach the walls . You're just a child and you're unaware of it because I'm pretty sure nobody talks about it , but you see it happen , you know what I'm saying .
So , for example , let's just put ourselves in the world of attack on titan .
Let's put ourselves behind the world I mean behind the walls for a second and just and speculate how we would feel coming to those troops to understand that , okay , we are lineages or related to these titans that's coming to the wall and they're being sent here by another group of people to keep us in a bay .
We're there , we're our people or our kind is being used to basically keep us at bay , to keep us that cattle . So they had us , they had the Eldians killing themselves off .
In essence , they had the titans eating titan sifters , if you want to be honest it was like natural selecting said it's like , okay , let's keep all the monsters inside the walls and let them eat themselves , like you know , let them kill themselves off yeah .
So you know the malice of humans is very it gets very wicked . So you gotta understand how fear is he had to be and think about it , most of those titan sifters .
They didn't have a choice in the matter , like they didn't ask for this life , like like Aaron forensic , like he got injected by greece him , because you know the memories and blah , blah , blah . It's almost like it was predetermined , but at the same time . Aaron never asked for any of this .
You know almost forgot about that .
He did inject him yeah , he wasn't born as a titan sifter he , yeah yeah , he did inject him . So yeah , even if Aaron's memory is like Aaron manipulate greece into making all this shit happen . It's like a time loop . That's the whole thing .
It's new comes , paradox , essentially to where they made it , to where this dude can see and do something and do something , to where this dude can see into the future , but he doesn't have full control over it .
So he's just been sending memories of what he would do or what he's going to do to his father so that his father can like pretty much do the whole domino effect of having Aaron born . And in the moment where Aaron was born and greece's first words to him was you are free .
But in reality , the whole point of attack on titan is that none of them was ever free . But the moment Aaron was born , it was like okay , now that you are born , everything else is going to play out to where , exactly how it was and really everything that happened with the walls and what not everybody getting killed off .
Aaron didn't have the power at the time , but when he did gain the power , he still lacked a little agency to actually make things happen . He still had to play by the rules of the world up until he decided you know what fuck the rules I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want .
And that's when he gained true freedom of choice , just like he told yamir in that scene where , you know , like the goddess girl to where she had all the power but she didn't have the willpower to use her power . Meanwhile , aaron had the willpower but he just didn't have the actual power .
So when he met up with her it was more like yo , you got the power , all you need to do is choose . And that's pretty much the whole . That was like a major point into the story for me . That is to where , essentially , aaron , once he got the power , he gained agency .
And then that's when he started on experiencing true freedom , even if it out the cost of mass genocide of anybody who would try to oppress that freedom .
So Aaron was a freedom fighter in a sense , but it was like , oh , he was going about in a stream manner , like he was willing to kill everybody else just to make sure that his people can be free yeah , and I guess my only curiosity is are those the only two races like , only two bloodlines , like LDM Marlins ?
because if not , then I think his revenge should only been towards the Marlins no , that's the thing , that's the thing .
And before I get into that , let's talk about him and Reiner for a moment . Because with Reiner first of all , him and Bertolt revealing themselves as the armored and co-op , so Titan respectively the way that they did beautiful , oscar worthy , that was like bro , we did not see that coming .
The way they not only revealed it so casually , but the time when , you know , they were chilling with the one year for training corpse , how Aaron was saying , oh man , you know , my mom got eaten by a Titan , and they were like , oh damn , bro , I'm sorry to hear about that . And it's like , weren't you all play the hand of that shit ?
yeah that's what I'm saying Oscar worthy . I'm like bro , they played that off like oh damn , like that's crazy both of them because they got different personalities .
It's just , you know , reiner come off as like tough and aggressive and Bertolt got this like shy , timid attitude about him and it's like they're both fucking savages and it's like the one that's the shy one is the big main one , like he's the fucking colossal . Colossal is like you would never , be told to be damn near one of them , at least .
The fucking colossal bro
¶ Eren's Actions and Motivations in Attack on Titan
. I didn't even know how . I don't even know how I reacted to that moment . I think I played that shit back .
I was telling people when I read that in the manga , like wait a minute , though , it's one of those stories , okay , okay that shit was catching me .
I already knew . I already knew what I would get myself into . By that moment I was like oh yeah , I'm locked in . I was like I'm locked in because that was a fucking turn like I didn't even . I was still trying to put up with Reiner .
I want to say that it's funny how you know , when Aaron was talking to him about how oh , we , we're not , we're not so different , you and I , you know that talk and one um , reiner told Aaron what he needed to know . Then that's when the agency started to shift , where Aaron is now became the villain .
From that point , for what Reiner felt like he had to protect the people that he thought that the devil is a paradise , but also the Marley and people , so he was like a double agent in a sense .
But what I'm getting at is that the I like the analogy to where , with Aaron now being true to his attack Titan nature and Reiner being in his more natural , armored Titan state , in that fight it's like watching the sword , the attack Titan , cut down anybody who oppose him and the shield , the armor Titan , cracking under the pressure because you know how Reiner
couldn't even deal with the ramification of his action , so he did what he did in that room with that shotgun . But that's just . The thing is like it's one of those stories where it's like , yeah , life is unfair , but we're dealt with the car that we're dealt , so we got a plan . But um , fuck , um , we're gonna talk about um something else .
I'm sorry but what's that to that ? I know I said something about like where the other races I was right , okay , okay , got it , I got you okay .
So Marley and Eldians , those are the only two . Right , you're right . If it was just the Marley and that was trying to oppress the Eldians , then it would just make shit . It'll make sense to target the Marley . And but here's the thing Aaron told Armin .
As you know , he was the most truthful to Armin about what he was about to do , but not not upfront , like he kind of hinted at everybody , but he didn't want to give himself away too much . But in the end he was most truthful to Armin .
He told Armin everything before shit played out the way it played out , and what I'm getting at here is at one point he told Armin I don't know why , but I just want to do it . And at some point he was like okay , I'm gonna kill all the Titans and then I'm gonna kill all the Marlins . He did say that . He did say you just gonna kill all the Marlins .
He did say that . But he was like nah , that's not good enough . Everybody gotta die , everybody who isn't an Eldian , they all gotta die , yeah . So it's more like uh-uh , even if the Marleons are all gone , that's not good enough , fam , I gotta wipe out everything . He even said himself that I'm gonna flatten every surface on this planet .
That's tough man . That's the only part I'd say he was probably fucked up about . But at the same time , if he wanted to be realistic , we'd have to be in shoes . He was probably out of . You can't really tell somebody how to react to what they want to do . Like you say , he been injected . You know what I'm saying ?
He lost his mother , he lost his father , like and , and shit , like yeah , he went overboard . He definitely went overboard . I'm pretty sure he knows it , but it's like in some aspects it was out of his hand . It was out of his control .
Right , that's pretty much the whole point of attack on Titan . Like , can you really blame Eren for being built the way that he's built , given the world that he was born in ?
Right , you know what I'm saying . You gotta think about it , bro . Imagine having power and being . Do that . You know what I'm saying that ?
we could have had that . Really . Listen , he had power , but he wasn't even in control of his own power . It was more like he pretty much was a puppet to his own desire for freedom .
So it was like the moment he was born , he was just playing a role that he knew that he had to play , and even though he had choices like he he even once told he once said that there was a time where I would take Mikasa , run off with her and just spend the rest of my life with her , but I already know how it's going to play out , so our love could
never be . That's why he was so cold to her , especially in that one moment where he was saying like I always hated you , mikasa , and Mikasa was like you don't mean that .
I ain't gonna lie that whole thing . I kind of felt like he was doing the tough guy . I ain't gonna lie that was the only thing Eren didn't get past and I'm like , okay , you're fucked up , but I'm not buying it , Like I honestly did not .
I didn't believe that . I didn't believe that . Yeah , I'm like you're only saying that because you're trying to create detachment from , because you know damn well that this girl will live for you .
But you're like nah , I can't allow you to die from me , because if you , if you were really committed to being my ride or die , you already know that I'm going to end up being killed , becoming the enemy of the world , and you're just going to get killed along with me , and I'm not going to let that happen to you .
So you might as well keep your distance from me , so that way you can stay alive .
Yeah , see , that definitely makes sense . Yeah , yeah .
So I'm like I understand what you had to do , but that was like kind of cold in the moon boy .
It was like you got to go back and think about it Like yo , like he was really trying to protect Mikasa and everybody else by trying to create distance from because if he was to tell them straight up like , hey , there's nothing I could do about it , I've linked up with the founding Titan , I'm going to do the rumbling and I'm not going to target you
¶ Attack on Titan's Story and Impact
guys . You guys are free . Even if he told him that straight up , he knows they're going to do it was . Yeah , he is going to be the same thing regardless . So the best he could do was make it . I feel like he wanted to make that easier by trying to push him away .
But you got to think they're his own , they're not going to go , but that's his , that's his only way of doing it . Like damn , maybe if I do some fucked up shit , say some fucked up shit , they'd be like man , fuck him and we ain't gonna fuck him no more and all that . But Mikasa and Armin ain't like that . Nope , they saw through it just like we did .
Yeah , in fact , it felt like the more loyal they were to him , the more he got upset with them . It was almost like their loyalty to him was pissing him off .
Deco versus class one there again .
Yeah , doesn't it not sound like that , though , when you think about it ?
Yeah , like they was pissing him off , bro , and it's crazy because , as you said it , I see images of him looking at them . You can see him getting more pissed off and more mad , like Aaron was . Yeah , you can see the transformation Aaron had . Man .
But that was the thing . It was more like . He's always been like that , except it was more like the more he came to the realization of his role , that's when he became colder and colder , because it was like he started to realize shit that he was predestined to do . So it was like , oh so , that's how things , that's how it's gonna be All right .
So it was almost like writing a final will and you're like you're just doing a bunch of shit just to make sure that you get your affairs in order before you actually do the deed . Oh , yeah , yeah .
You gotta think the same Aaron from 10 years ago . He's not a kid , no more either .
Yeah , so it was like that same desire for freedom and whatnot that never changed , but it was like , as he grew older it was just more like he came more into terms that he will never be free .
So he minds well , make the events of the rumbling and everything play out exactly the way it is , because in reality , the only way he can be free is to be free from a world that doesn't allow him to be free . So his only true freedom was in death and that's that's that , bro . It's like the protagonist that became the antagonist .
That's like some shit that we rarely hear of , like not always .
You really hear that , though , because , like I said , like I said I thought I thought burto and Reiner was the bad guys , and it began . Then it turns out they was , you know , actually had a good cause .
Yeah , it was like they were double agents but at the same time it was like they didn't really know what was really going on , like it was really like a whole big mystery lying underneath , like with the tie ins that was inside the walls , like literally inside the walls .
You've seen that one one , you know the like half the face of that time was inside the , the interior walls . So it was like a whole bunch of mystery shit and like with the basement where he had like a whole bunch of secrets that they had to figure out .
So there was like a whole bunch of mystery and shit where I I'm not surprised that Reiner , both burto , annie and everybody else just didn't know , know why all this shit was playing out .
But with Aaron getting closer , to the truth , political is very political . So if they're soldiers of war , you know , when it comes to politics , when you're a soldier , bro , all you know is your , your duty is your job . You don't know what you're fighting for , other than your side of the war . But you know , yeah , that's that's .
That's what happened in the real world , where a lot of soldiers are just fighting a war and it's not even their fight , it's not their war .
Yeah , and it's like even with soldiers when you think about it , notice how you never call a soldier a murder if they actually kill people in combat because they were just falling water like they can't help us .
So it's like you can't count that on that record , for you know fighting for their country or their island land , whatever they're fighting for you know , and that's another thing that was brought over and Armin and Aaron was talking .
He was like , um , no , was it Armin and Aaron ? I know they both kind of had this speculation where it was like , okay , yeah , I'm doing good , but to us it's a good thing , but what about the people I killed ?
And that's when that whole river there was that turn to blood and stuff and right , it was like my kid , a lot of people like it might have been good for us , but what about all the people are killed ? What about all the same things that have been ? You know that was Armin who said that . I forgot who he was talking to .
But yeah , it's like speculation of the same during that time . But I know Armin had , he had a realization like that . He was like I mean kind of like what is good and what is bad ? Like is there really a good and bad in the essence ? In a sense like this , because I mean , when it comes to war , it's like .
It's like that one um , it's like that one line that I just heard recently , to where there are no devils , only people .
Yeah .
So it's like fuck , really tough situation . You know , I just got handed to Isayama for making this story because this is very first story , by the way , like he was working on Attack on Titan when he was 19 , I believe . And he was fucking nailing it right out of the gate , but I'm like fuck .
It's a 65 page novel there isn't a copy of humanity versus Titans .
Yeah , and what can I say , man ? Like it was just brilliant the way that he was being very meticulous about how he wanted things to play out , to where he pretty much conveyed the message he wants to convey in that story .
But he did it in a way to where we couldn't catch on to it too soon , because then that would just give away the mystery and all that shit and that would be like , okay , we pretty much figured out the gist of the story , but now we're just waiting for the payoff . But meanwhile we attack on Titan .
Like in the end you're like wondering , okay , how the hell we get to this point . And you go back and rewatching things , like , okay , you started to know some shit that you didn't really pay attention to at first . And you start to piece some shit together Like , oh , so that's what he was trying to tell us .
Yeah , but yeah , other than that , great anime , manga , series , like I told the others , five stars series . In my opinion , how you feeling like on a scale of one to five , oh well , five stars or one to 10 , however you want to do that .
I give it a five stars per story , five for animation . It's , it's , it's , I like it , I like it , man I want . I can't put it in my top five because of the nostalgic anime I have , but story wise , I definitely put attack on Titan right behind Naruto . Can Naruto , my number one ?
But it's , it's , it's , man , like , bro , I'm gonna watch it again , like I'm definitely gonna . That's the anime that I'm gonna restart from season one , episode one , because I just have to , you know , say there's just stuff I have to go back and recap , but overall , bro , it's a great anime and I recommend it .
Hell yeah , and that's funny too , because now that you mentioned Naruto , that would happen to be one of my top 10 as well .
Like so so far in my I don't have them like in order just yet , but I just know that at this point I have like four , definitely four , maybe five , it would be attack on Titan , full amount of Aquamist , naruto , kotechio , hitman reborn and maybe girl are gone . I might also add JoJo's , because well , jojo's and one piece like that's a bunch .
That's why I'm saying like it's hard to break it down . I saw so much shit is like y'all asking me what's your top five , top 10 . I'm like , bro , that's not fair man , because after all the shit I've watched , like there's old shit , new shit , and I'm like thinking , damn , I have to really think about this .
As far as , like , storytelling and everything , that's why we attack on Titan , I can definitely say is a top 10 anime , because the way they told the story was in a way to where I'm like , oh , that would definitely stick to your brain for a little while , yeah , yeah .
So same thing with Naruto to where there was a lot of shit that went on in Naruto , to where each arc had like this different level of emotional payoffs , where it's like , my God , like it's hard to even pick a favorite arc out of that shit .
It played out like each art played out in such a different way to where , okay , some of them was more action heavy than emotionally heavy , but then again it's like each art did a different thing to where . I'm like , bro , I kind of fuck with this article .
It's like there was a lesson in each of them .
Right , it's like . It's like you had to really think about it , like , but you know what , not to get too derailed , we got to work on some other shit . So , playboy , I do appreciate you being on for this segment of the attack on Titan review .
I'm going to go ahead and slap this on to the previous segment that I did with the rest of the gang , and then we're going to do the nerdy therapy session with Kali Haikai-shin and we'll just wrap this up and add it in .
All right , my God , y'all got a date . I don't want to be late at eight .
Gotcha . All right , man , you go ahead and take it easy , all right .
All right , my God , you do the same man .
All right , ladies and gentlemen , it is the nerdy therapy session with our resident therapist , Kali Haikai-shin
¶ Attack on Titan and Its Themes
. First of all , how you doing today .
I'm doing all right .
I'm a little bit tired from having to take care of my babies , but I'm super excited to get into this , since we've been waiting a really , really long time to talk about attack on Titan , since you know , they decided to do season four , part one a , part two b you know all of that madness , so I've been super excited to talk about this for a long time .
Of course , of course . And speaking of which , how are you feeling about attack on Titan in general ?
I had really bitter sweet feelings because I read the manga first , so I knew exactly how this was going to end . Of course , like I said , I finished that one , the Hajime , so I'm gonna finish it at least four or five years ago minimum , so it's been a long time coming .
So I've been waiting for such a long time for this to be animated , and I mean there is a completely like large gap between season one and season two , I mean that sort of thing . It took such a long time . But attack on Titan .
There was actually a reason for that actually Really .
I don't think I've ever saw what it was . What was it ?
It was structured . See , the thing is the way season two you know how it was shorter than the first season . Okay , so they knew that the way the whole story was structured , if they had started season two with the usual 24 , then the season two would end up on a kind of a low note .
You know , it would have been kind of like petering out , kind of boring , and then see what they could have picked up . But by doing it the way they did , they did it to where season two would have like this iconic moment , to where it's like just leaves you on , this cliffhanger keeps making you ask for more .
And then when they transition to season three , okay , it started up a little slow , but then it got impactful later , so it was really more of a structured thing .
Okay , that makes a lot of sense and plus , I remember when it was around that time that they were trying to catch up to it . I think one of the things of the production studios I definitely wasn't map .
Yeah , it was between Studio Witten , Studio Mapper and , oh my God , like there was like sorry , go ahead . There's some bullshit going on with Studio Mapper , like they're kind of up to it once again in recent times .
But this is not new to Studio Mapper to where it seems like , okay , nobody else could really fit the deadline to make season two of Attack on Titan , but Studio Mapper was the only one that was available at the time and , as you can see , in recent times Studio Mapper is kind of putting some pressure on the animators to a point to where some people are
striking for their unrealistic on standards . So this is not new for Studio Mapper and that's why we got what we got , even though not bad . But you can kind of tell that there's just been some handling of the . You know it be on . Sorry , I'm kind of .
Essentially , attack on Titan was handed to another studio and because of different standards , instructions , whatnot , that's why it took a little longer than usual .
Yeah , that's like because I think it was that and then I think the they had caught up , I think , to Isayama like making the manga , like literally writing it out .
So I think they were trying to give him some time to get ahead as well , because I mean , obviously like he has his crew and everything in the in his manga studio but obviously he's the main one doing like a lot of the drawing and stuff . But I guess I should get back to the original question as far as feeling how I feel about the series .
Attack on Titan is definitely one of my top 10, . I would say because I I looked , I liked it at first when we were talking about like , okay , killing these Titans , killing these gigantic monsters that just come through and eat people .
And I remember when I was reading in the manga , when it decided to completely step over and get more like political , when it had the arc with Historia becoming the queen and everything like that , and that's when Levi's uncle Kenny came into , came into the story and everything .
When it made that completely like flip towards political stuff and having to talk to all of the religious figures and everything , I was like what kind of why are we going in this direction ?
I thought we were just killing big monsters , but now they throw in everything into this and , of course , we find out that it's an even bigger like political issue with the Marlians and the Eldians and everything like that as they find out after they cross over the sea .
So it started out as a simple yeah , let's kill monsters and it's like , oh , wow , this actually reflects some bigger issues like prejudice against specific people and blaming them and like generations of hatred and stuff .
And it's something that we see even now in like our society and I feel like I think I remember somebody made a juxtaposition I think that's the right word to use of the persecution that the Eldians felt towards Jewish people during the . Holocaust , so I feel like it's a really good .
A lot of people have played around and said that Isayama made it to seem like like it was the Jewish people like rising up and like getting back at the Nazis or something like that , and I think , if I remember right , he was like . That is not my intention . I can see where you're making the comparison , but this isn't .
The Jewish people fight back and kill everyone else in the entire world . They don't go and massacre 80% of the world , like Aaron did .
It's more like he wasn't trying to do a political insert . However , the fact that something like that happened in reality is like a mere coincidence that it had that correlation .
Oh yeah , I mean people , creators yeah , creators are , they pull from what they know . But I don't think maybe he may have pulled inspiration , that's my word May have pulled some inspiration from it , but I mean , we're not unfamiliar with the idea , like I said , of prejudice and social issues and political issues talking with people , that sort of thing .
So that sort of thing is always going to you see the real world in media and you see issues of media in real life . That's just kind of one of those things . That's kind of what's the word . It happens at the same time , like simultaneously .
Happens dance .
Yes , thank you .
Honestly , I would agree that this is also one of my top 10 anime manga series of all time because of the storytelling . But the main subject I want to get to you about is our protagonist , aaron Yeager . This guy , he has more nuance than I thought Now .
At first you're thinking , okay , he's this kid that his mother got eaten by a Titan and he swore vengeance on all Titanists to kind of free his people from the tyranny of the Titanist . So , like you said that it was started off about killing off all these human giant monsters .
But then we find later on that all Titans are pretty much humans that got injected with this syringe that gave them this power .
¶ Aaron's Transformation in Attack on Titan
Well , I was playing it more in the storytelling part of these review , but I want to focus on Aaron Yeager specifically because there's a lot about him that people might have misinterpreted . One thing is it's very well possible that Aaron has always been like that from the very beginning .
Like you're thinking , how do you go from being like the hero of the story to the villain ? And when you really think about it , see , that's the thing with Attack on Titan . It's one of those shows where not only dare I say that it is a five star anime , manga series .
But it's one of those series where you have to watch it twice at least twice to fully understand what happened . Because from the very beginning Aaron has always been this savage .
You know , like the moment when he saved Mikasa from those people that were trying to round up the Japanese people See once again another political aspect in there , but unintentional , of course , to where he was stabbing those people like I'll kill you , I'll kill you .
And I'm , like you're not surprised that the kids that pretty much killed an adult in cold blood , like with full rage , will turn out to be the guy that ends up killing off 80% of the world population . I don't know , like it's not that obvious , but here's the thing Aaron's drive and motivation for freedom was a corruption of Armin's Childlike Wonder .
Because when you see the book , when he's Armin had this book , it showed him the ocean and everything else outside of the walls and Armin just wanted to see the world outside of it . But you know , not in the sense that Aaron wants to see that freedom . He saw things in a very different way to where he willing to fight and kill for that freedom .
But even then he finds out way too late that the freedom that he's looking for will be ultimately unattainable . Now , aaron transitioned from a character who strived for freedom and fueled by vengeance against the Titans , to the very monster that he swore to destroy .
Now him annihilating 80% of the world population was not even a necessity for him , but it was more like a whim or a primary motivation , and you can also see that with Reiner the armor Titan , he became a reluctant hero that ultimately wanted to protect the people from the threat that he thought that the devils of Paradise S so they were depicted as he thought
he was going to be a hero , but in fact it was the fact that he was kind of forced into into this life , kind of like Aaron did , and it really we really want to break it down . Hajime Isayama made a world built on predeterminism to where there's only one possible future and the past determines that future , and it's also built on a time period of swear .
The destruction of the island of Paradise was because of Aaron's lack of agency in the story , and the only way he gained agency is when he realized that he had to become the bad guy in order to gain the freedom that he always wanted for himself and his friends . But once again it's not exactly what everybody else wanted .
So he had to be real low key about his goals from the very beginning . Because with the attack Titan they say that , oh , he can see into the future . But it's way more . There's way more to it than that . But before I continue , cal , you have any input so far ?
Um , well , I feel like actually what you're saying between , like the comparison and the contrast between Aaron and Reiner . Like you see , when we find out about Reiner becoming like the armored Titan , you know like that's , that's the big reveal . I think that became like a meme or something like that . And you can see the look on his face .
When he's revealing like who he is , he just kind of like nonchalantly brings Aaron over to the side with Bertolt . It's like hey , I'm the armored Titan . And Aaron's like what are you talking about ? And he goes .
Yeah , it's like they just said , it's so nonchalantly . He's like wait , whoa , whoa , whoa , whoa , whoa , whoa , wait a minute , hold on what .
You're just gonna bring that up Because I mean , at that time everybody's like , who is it ? Who could be the armored Titan ? Who's the colossal Titan ? Because I mean , at that point they had already figured out , okay , the people that are Titans . Excuse me , hold on , let me get my words right . People become Titans .
Of course we didn't know at that time it was specifically Eldians that can become Titans . There's like , well , aaron can become a Titan . That means other people can also become Titans . So during that time we were still trying to figure out who it could possibly be and I liked being able to see how .
¶ Analysis of Reiner and Aaron in Titan Attack
Once it got to the I think it's I'm trying to make sure I got the events right when they're in Liberio , when you're trying to figure out everything that's going on with the Brynner and he figures out that Aaron is there in the city , it starts out we become what's the word ?
Sympathetic to Aaron at the beginning , because it's like , okay , well , eat wants to go out and see what the world is like . Because there's that iconic image of him , kind of with the long hair pointing towards the ocean , saying , if we go out there , will we , will we finally be free ? And that's kind of where that's , I think , the end of that season .
I think that season two that kind of leads off on that and it's I feel like that's where it's kind of interesting , because it kind of shifts to Ryner during that time , because he has so much guilt over what he did in killing the people in the walls , like you said , because he's supposed to be going over there against the devils of Paradise Island .
He's supposed to be going against them and putting some fear and shock into them , starting kind of like this little mini war and killing them . Because that's what he was sent there to do , literally as a child soldier . Because we don't sometimes we , we might forget that they're only 15 , 16 years old .
I think they were even younger when they were sent over there , because that's when Galliard and stuff like that were there and Amir came into the picture and took , took their bodies or became the jaw tightened that they were literally only seven or eight years old when they were sent over there to kind of infiltrate .
So Ryner , bertald and Annie had already seen so much blood and murder and everything . That's what literally they were brought up to do . So Ryner becomes sympathetic in that way that he's kind of a tragic hero . But like during that time , I think , when we were trying to figure out who he was as a person , you're like , no , like he's an , he's an asshole .
He killed all those people . And then we find out as we learn more about the depression that he's felt . I mean , I think he even mentioned in the Liberio part and that arc . I think he mentioned wanting to kill himself because of how much guilt he had . Am I correct ?
Yeah .
Or it was more of a . If he died , he had to commit it to that . Yeah , it was more of that kind of passive , suicidal ideation where it's like , well , if I were to die , I like wouldn't be upset with it because of what I've done , that sort of thing . Or he was like I deserve from what I've , what I've done .
Cause at that time he realized , you know , he was put put up against the devil's on Paradise Island . But once he came back he was like , oh , um , I killed probably thousands of people and he had to live with that guilt for a longest time . You could , I mean you could see how much that guilt had weighed on his face too .
I mean he looked so much , so many more years older . I mean , of course time had passed , but he looked . He looked physically older because of the emotions he was feeling . Do you understand what I mean ?
Right . And here's my thing , though , with Reiner . He even made a point to where he his mission was to eliminate the devil's of paradise , right . But when he got to know the people he realized , oh shit , I'm going to feel bad about what I'm about to do . He is almost like he had his . Anakin Skywalker moment with .
You know the children and had to like kill him off and whatnot , but ultimately , the way I see it , the moment where he had that talk with Aaron about them being the same , and . Aaron shipped into a Titan and started attacking and all that shit . You know that scene . Yeah , that was the moment when you realized that .
That's the moment where Aaron gained his agency in the story . He became the villain at that point forward and , like you said , reiner became the reluctant , tragic hero . In other words , reiner became the shield that cracked and Aaron became the sword that cut it down those who opposed him .
So , yeah , I kind of see how , in the beginning , we would have never known that , like we were never known , this would have played out the way it is . But that's just the thing with how I see , how Jim EC I'm . I think this was all one big checkups gun to where he was being very careful about giving us all the right information from the very beginning .
So , that way , when we get to certain points where we need to , then everything else makes sense , Like that one point where Erwin Smith , when he was keeping my this , was back when Annie was a thing , to where they were trying to figure out , okay , who's the real enemy ? Who do you think the enemy is ?
He could , he didn't suspect Aaron at first because he was with Hanji at the time , so it couldn't have been . He wasn't suspect the Aaron . But Erwin was onto something where he was thinking what if the enemy is within , inside the walls ? And not only were they like among us , but they were literally in the walls .
So it was way more to the shit than you thought and ultimately it was just the end of a predetermined world that is the Yama created . So essentially I see that with easy yama he was being very particular about this story being his very first story . Believe it or not . Like this is the very first thing he came out with .
And that was impressive to where , essentially , he created a world where it was contradictory to Aaron's inherent nature . He was more of an active , he was more like the kind of protagonist that was supposed to have agency , but he was forced to have no agency . He was forced to be powerless and he did whatever he took to get that freedom .
It's crazy , but yeah , I got some . I got a whole bunch of notes that on need to go over . In fact , as far as the whole thing about the devil's a paradise , Really there are no devils , only people . But you got anything else you want to add on ?
Kelly , I can't think of anything else . I think that's . That sums up that part .
Okay , For me All right . So I got some more notes that I want to slide by you the part where I said Aaron never changed . Only our perception excuse me , only our perception of him did , Because one of my favorite lines power makes us more of ourselves . And another part where , when Aaron kissed his story's hand , he experienced future memories .
He didn't see his own future , at least not until he gained the power to founder , but rather he saw his father's gricious memories from the past , which were Aaron's memories from the future thanks to the ability of the attack .
So , in other words , think of it like a time capsule being put into a time machine , to where the current inheritor of the attack , titan , can send memories of themselves to the previous predecessor . So that's why the bond his father was able to see the future . He was only seeing , a future that Aaron wanted him to see .
So that's why people are saying that Aaron pretty much gas lit his father and his brother the whole time and it was all according to K .
The thing is , aaron has always been the villain , but it wasn't until he gained agency to where he can actually gain power to do something about that , he embraced of his destiny , even though it's not exactly what he wanted , like
¶ Aaron's Tragic Hero Journey in Titan
in fact . Here's the thing Mikasa and Armin Well , mainly Mikasa . You know how there is this . Where is this ? You really love Aaron ? Or is it because you know she got that acronym DNA to where she just magically drawn to him for some reason ? But no , it's true love . I don't want to believe it's true love .
But here's the crazy thing Aaron loved Mikasa too . And there was this part to where , of course , he imagined running away with her and living the rest of his life with her . But because he knew the events , that was going to go down . His love , their love , could never be . He had the distance himself from her .
That's why he seemed all cold and she is like you know I'm sorry , cali , but you know , mikasa , it was like all Aaron has to do is say assumed position , and she was soon the position , and not to be that crass about it , but let's , let's just say she , she , mikasa was .
Aaron knew that Mikasa would live for him , but he won't allow her to die for him as he become the enemy of the world . So , as much he loved Mikasa , he had to distance himself from her in order to make sure that the events that plays out plays out exactly as he has foreseen .
That's why that whole scene with he was saying that , oh , I always hate you , mikasa , and then she had that face like you don't mean that . But for the most part it seems that Aaron lied or omitted the truth to his friends and others about his goal to create the task in order to ensure his future .
He had seen he was the most truthful with Armin because he trusted Armin the most . But he distanced himself from Mikasa because he just didn't want her involved in what he had in mind , despite loving her and wanting to spend the rest of life with her . And Aaron's goals was to experience his own freedom and ensure that his friends live long lives .
But after gaining the full control of the founder , he modified his goals to where he will end the curse of the Titans by making his friends look like heroes . In other words , aaron made a compromise . Knowing the memories that he seen his father's memories and then later on he finds out what's going to go down .
He made a compromise to allow himself to be stopped in order to get everything that he wanted to begin with , but he knew from the very beginning that the freedom that he wanted is unattainable . So in order to ensure that his friends live long , happy lives , he has to become the bad guy .
In other words , he had to become the world's last monster for everything to rebuild . And all that and it's not even that the Titans can see into the future , but rather at the time the current inheritor can send memories to the predecessor . Essentially , it's all come down to Newcombe's paradox .
For those of you who don't know , what Newcombe's paradox is is in philosophy or mathematics . It's a thought experiment involved in a game between two players , one of whom is able to predict the future , and Fox A can always say , for instance , even though , in this predetermined world , even though they knew the future , it was already set in stone .
So the best thing Aaron can do is just let things play out , even though he has the illusion of free will . So even with Armin , he was saying I don't know why I want to do this , I just know , I just want to do it . So in a sense , it's like he always wanted freedom .
He always wanted to see the world and live peacefully , but at the same time , he just wasn't born in that kind of world where he was allowed to do that . So he had to become the very thing that he swore to destroy in order to get everything that he wanted , even though he didn't live to actually see it . And that's another funny thing , too , erwin Smith .
He died before he got to see the events play out to where . Okay , well , the hand I played and all this . I know it's going to be a stepping stone to something potentially greater , I hope , but I'm just not going to be alive to see it . And yeah , in that part , that is kind of tragic . Um , yeah , I think so . Um , you got anything .
Um , let's see I'm trying to go back . Well , what was that first note that you had before you started going into that like the new comes paradox ?
Okay , Um there's .
There was a thought that I had that I wanted to expand upon , but I lost it after we you kept going .
Okay , I'm sorry You're all right . I'm trying to think , so let me just go back . Oh fuck , I remember Um , he was it about um , how the attack tighten words , or maybe the one before that . Okay , um , yeah , I'm sorry he was leaving them in life , but so was it about his goals .
Yeah , that's what it was oh yeah , okay . So the the fact that that's what he wanted to do was to be able to , like I said we were talking about earlier , with , like the , the themes of freedom . What exactly does that mean ? Is it means exactly free will ? Does it mean wherever you can go , that sort of thing .
Right .
And for for Aaron , it was kind of it was kind of both at the same time . But as you're kind of talking about , there's a lot of the predeterminism . Is he actually making these choices because that's what he wants , or is it something that's already predetermined and so it was just going to go a specific way ?
Because it's just going to go that way particularly ? I mean , he was even talking about well , I was going to do things this way , but I knew that you guys would come and kind of counteract me .
I think he said that he went through like multiple scenarios and it always came out to 80% of people dying , that sort of thing , and he's like thought this range in the end game . Exactly . It's like I've run through all of these different scenarios and everything , but it's always going to end up being like this .
So I feel like the fact that Aaron still decided to go through with everything it's it's odd because he knew exactly how things were going to end , but he still wanted to go through it , like you said , to kind of like make his friends the heroes .
They're the ones that , even though they were the devils of Paradise Island , so to speak , they were the ones who were able to stop him and they would be able to be revered as heroes and everything would work out better .
So it's just really it's interesting to think about how he decided to go that route , even though everything else told him that maybe he should continue on and like continue trying to continue the rumbling , try to kill more people , that sort of thing , cause he could have just I mean , there could have been the decision , I guess , at some point to make it through
, but he just decided to stop and just kind of , I guess , cap it at 80% of people , because it was more important for him to be able to have a better life for his friends , even if it meant that he wasn't going to be able to be there . So he's kind of like I said , he's kind of like another tragic hero as well .
He's both the protagonist but also the antagonist at the same time , because he , like you said , he kind of becomes the villain . It becomes more okay , he's the protagonist in the first season , maybe even the second season , and then from Ben on , we figure out okay , he's actually the bad guy and he was always going to be the bad guy .
He was , but oh , that's what it was . You said that he was always who he was going to be . Our perception of him just changed . Because , it becomes to that point where it's like , okay , he's working with all the people he's working with flock and everyone he's like actually killing , like his comrades . Okay , what's . Okay , he wants to kill everyone .
Okay , what's what ? Is Aaron thinking ? Like that sort of thing ?
So it is kind of he's such an interesting and complex character and the fact that he had the attack on excuse me , the attack Titan ability to be able to see so much of what's going on and he still decided to go through with everything when , I don't know , he could have just kept his mouth shut and continued on and killed .
I think it was .
What's that ?
I think it's one of those .
I think it's a self fulfilling prophecy in a sense , because if he can see future events happening , even from the predecessor because you know this whole time paradox loop that they have with the ability of the attack Titan , and essentially he was able to see part of his own future because he was able to see the memories of his father's past which was sent to
future Aaron . You know that whole rigmarole that happened . So essentially this is a self fulfilling prophecy to where so , believe it or not , I know I used to know a guy like this to where essentially he kind of knew from jump that he was going to do some shit that's going to make everybody like stop fucking with them .
And instead of avoiding that possibility , he's like no , I just like making things harder on myself on purpose and I'm like Okay , I don't know what to tell you on that . You do , you , I guess . But yeah , some people kind of do it to themselves . It's where kind of makes you wonder did Aaron really have free will ?
So , because if he knew that this all the one one I'm sorry , I'm tripping on my words If he knew all of this was going to go down and he chose to act on it anyways . Then essentially , he decided to do all of this based on his inherent nature that he wanted freedom by any means necessary .
And also , he's always been childish and a little pathetic , let's be honest . Not in a sense where he's like , not in a disrespectful way , but it's almost like pitiful , like sometimes .
Like , sometimes he can be kind of pitiful , even when he was a little older and it was like this one panel in the manga where he was talking to Armin and he was like sitting in this puddle or whatnot . And then Armin was like why are you looking so pathetic ?
And I mean that that was kind of like Isayama's wink at the audience to where , essentially , aaron has always been like this , like he's always been a little childish because , remember , like I said in the beginning , aaron's motivation to do all of this is merely a corruption of Armin's charlotte wonder . It was because he saw things differently from Armin .
That's how his inherent nature kind of led into his Titan nature . I guess you can call it that . It's weird , it's like . That's why I say Aaron has way more nuance than I thought , because you thinking , okay , he's just like this loud mouth punk , that thing . He can kill off all the Titans because he got something to prove and all that shit .
But when you dive deeper into this story you're just like Holy shit . I kind of see why the whole depressed Aaron meme was a thing . It's almost like he knew his future and he's like , yeah , this is not going to end well , so minds will commit to .
It's like that favorite line I like to say is like , well , I already dug this hole , so I might as well strike for the goal . You know , go for the goal . So I guess even he felt that he couldn't avoid this future . He might as well commit to it At least .
I want to say that if he can't avoid this future , he's going to at least try to make it seem like he wanted this future for himself , like he , at the very least , is more like a power move to where this is what I've always wanted in a world where he was predetermined to do so . It's crazy .
Hey , jeff , what ? Yeah , I apologize , I'm gonna have to cut it kind of short today . That's all the notes that I had . I've got to go help my husband . My children are passing .
That's all good . Well , with that being said , I thank you for joining me on this session . You go ahead and take it easy and , ladies and gentlemen , thank you for listening to us ranting ramble about this show . However you feel about Aaron Yeager , I don't know . But , with that being said , y'all take it easy . Okay , final edit .
¶ Thoughts on Attack on Titan
With Attack on Titan . It's one of those shows where it kind of grew up alongside the anime fans that have been there from the beginning .
A lot of people agree with Aaron up until the end and , to be honest , like I said with the others , it's one of those things where you understand where he's coming from , you understand the situation , you understand how the world is , this harsh , unforgiving and predetermined world and I get the motive , but the outcome it was a tough sell .
It was like , whether you like the ending of Attack on Titan or not , whether you like this series as a whole or not , it's just no denying that it is a very popular , if not cult , classic series at this point , because you see a lot of people dressing up as these scouts and , like , I've seen one person dressed up as a scout and at work one time .
But it just goes to show that a lot of people like it . Like I have a bunch of friends who were saying , oh , what's going on with the basement and whatnot . And I was reading the manga a little ahead at the time and I was like I can't say much . I'm like I don't want to spoil it , for you See , that was the thing .
I was kind of diving into the manga a little bit because people were saying like , oh , something's going on in the manga . So , okay , let me look . And I'm like , oh shit , yeah , yeah , can't wait to see what the anime fans are going to feel about all this . But I'm still standing by what I said Five out of five stars .
I like the animation , I like the music . The characters were great , I like the plot that they were going for and it's definitely going to be one of those shows that's going to stick in my head for a while now .
With that being said , I'm going to end off the Attack on Titan review and honestly , I'm going to be real with you Between guys like Giga , totally not Mark invaders . Oh , that's with two Zs . A bunch of people said what they said about Attack on Titan and I agree with them and , honestly , what can I say ?
That was already been said , attack on Titan , it's an experience . With that being said , stay alert , my friends , stay hopeful and we will see you later .