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A Deeper Dive into Teen Titans (Season 4): Raven's Potential, Social Issues in Animated Worlds, and AI's Impact on Creatives

Jul 22, 20231 hr 47 min
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Ready to uncover the complexities of Raven and Trigon's relationship in our enlightening chat on Teen Titans? Get set to join us as we dissect notable episodes like 'Stranded', engage in a lively discourse about the never-ending nerd wars, and demystify the differences between manga and anime. We promise an emotionally animated discussion, filled with humor and insight that will leave you with a fresh perspective on your favorite animated series.

In a world where technology is continually evolving, what impact could AI have on artists and creatives? Could it be a tool for progress, or a weapon for manipulation? We tackle these questions and more as we draw parallels from an intriguing episode of Black Mirror, debating the ethical boundaries and potential abuses of AI, and examining the possible implications on an individual's image and perception.

As we navigate through the layers of Teen Titans, we address critical social issues like racism, relationships, and workplace dynamics. From Cyborg and Starfire's confrontation with racial bias to Robin and Starfire's ambiguous relationship, we leave no stone unturned. We wrap up with an exploration of Raven's struggle with depression and the importance of a support system. Strap in for a roller-coaster ride navigating the highs and lows of your favorite characters as we reveal the symbolism behind their actions and the lessons we can draw from them. So, are you ready for a deep dive into the world of Teen Titans? Let's zone in on it!

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Teen Titans Episodes and Fandom Debates

Speaker 1

Alright , part 4 of the Teen Titans Extreme Review . It's gonna be centered around Raven and her relationship with her father , trotagon , the big bad devil of the DC Comics universe . Well , is he like the devil ? Well , I know he's not really the devil , but they kinda treat him like he is .

Anyways , it's gonna be exploring that for the most part and some other episodes that we kinda like . So , without further ado , tokyo Gatsu , let's go ahead and zone in on this .

So the focus is on our girl , raven now , and , even though her thing is not gonna kick into like the third episode , kinda like the last season with Cyborg , there is two episodes before her arc kicks in that I kinda wanna touch on . But the first episode don't touch that dial .

Basically , control freaks back and he's on television hopping from channel to channel using the same device and the Titans get inside the television dimension , kinda like channel chasers .

You know that fairly odd appearance on a special episode , yeah , and the chase between the Titans and control freak and the monster that control freak was on creating , causing damage to the viewers brainwaves , and I like how in this episode , the best way to beat a couch potato is with another couch potato , with our boy , beast Boy .

Speaker 2

Yep , I mean , that's the biggest thing about it , like real talking . We used to hit this on like real thing . The best way to beat a nerd is with somebody else . Like the best thing about it is when you have one person that you constantly out here trying to fact check everybody , fact check , fact check , fact check .

And then somebody comes in with the real facts and be like no , bro , you forgot about this and this and this Cause . Then that little back and forth between control freak and Beast Boy when it was like well , I had what about this and this and this ? And then like Beast Boy was like no , what about , but about this and this and this ?

And the control freak was like no , this and this and this and this . And then it wound up like that back and forth banter was hilarious , but then ending with the fact that , nope , in the end Beast Boy is the bigger , better and better couch potato .

He knew all this stuff way more than Beast Boy , way more than control freak did , and it was just like bro .

Speaker 1

I just like how this essentially was one of those things where , keep in mind , this is something that's not brand new to our culture , but at the same time , it's more prevalent than ever online , to where you post some shit online and you best believe there's going to be some people that's going to be making sure that you are on point at every step of the

way , otherwise they will flame you for it .

Speaker 2

Like , for example , the biggest thing about it is there's two main different Dragon Balls . Dragon Balls Okay , there is the Dragon Balls no , actually no correction , I have to change that . There's now four . There is now particularly four . There's like there's the , the community that has seen all of it , that has actually seen the original Dragon Ball .

There's a community that knows the manga , because that's a big difference as well too . There are some changes from the manga to to the anime , from the original Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z as well , so there are some changes into that . Then there's the community that has not read the manga nor seen Dragon Ball whatsoever . They started at Dragon Ball Z .

That's a whole community in itself . And now the fourth community is a community that has only seen Super and seen shorts or bits of Dragon Ball , like maybe the most of Dragon Ball that they have seen is the little TFS clips that circle around YouTube . They still have not actually seen the original Dragon Ball Z .

They've only seen , actually been watching , super , and that's it . That is the fourth onto that . So , because it's such a big differentiation in the huge community into this aspect , it's it's always going to be a big issue because it's always going to be somebody fat checking something else .

Well , goku never did this and this and this and this , and you be like , well , did you know that ? It's like , oh , the best command man wave ever was the , the sliding command man . And then like , well , I mean , I love that sliding command man that he did . That was definitely boss . It was bad as it was unexpected .

But real tall Goku has shot a command man wave out of his feet and before he could fly , that's how he learned , that's how he flew , like that one fight . Like he didn't have Nimbus , he couldn't fly yet because he ain't learned how to do it yet . So does Niggas . To give himself some propulsion , he shot a command man wave at his feet .

That was still pretty boss , especially for the . He did it during a fight and he never did again . It was another one time only situation . The warp command man was still pretty boss , even though realistically it was still kind of stupid , but it was still pretty boss . When it happened , we was unexpected .

We was like , holy shit , this niggas just teleported with the command man . Oh my God , like it's not the first time that he'd have shocked us , specializing in this command man wave in different ways . But then you hit , you mentioned that , and then like bro , what are you talking about ? He ain't never shot in a command man , way from his feet .

I know exactly what community you from , I know . Now , at this point , I'm cutting this conversation short because there's no point talking to you about anything else further , because you do not know anything , and I'm just going to walk away and I nope , not happening , not entertaining nonsense .

Speaker 1

That's honestly me at this point , when the company social media , because I'm like , I'm to a point where you know what , I'm not even trying to argue with people . If you got a good point , fair enough , I'm going to let it ride , even if I don't agree with your opinion . I'm like , whatever , I'm too old for this shit .

But ayo , in dramatic fashion , is that our boy professor took the number one hero for show the show .

Speaker 3

You know what I mean Always out here . You know my , my predecessor , deco . You know what ?

Speaker 2

I mean .

Speaker 3

He didn't tell me I had to make sure I make an entrance , because this predecessor all my always made the entrance . You know what I mean .

Speaker 1

No see , our boy Deco . He was on that vigilance shift for a while so he was like kind of channeling that Batman energy to where it's like . You know the plan , so you just go out there .

Speaker 3

Just laying out enemies dark wing duck style , you know , let's get dangerous .

Speaker 1

All right . So we were just talking about episode one , where you know Beast Boy versus control free and basically being like a bunch of nerds cross referencing shit , where I was like , nah , your fast , Now I'm pointing , here is the real deal and you know shit like that . So we were just clowning on that .

Speaker 3

Understandable . Did y'all do an overview of the season ?

Speaker 1

No , we really just got started , so like we just get him right into it .

Speaker 3

All I just want to say about the season as an overview is like this gives us one of the best character studies , right , and it shows us Raven's prophecy . But I can't even with that . I can't decide which season is the best . True .

Speaker 1

Because , even looking back , I'm like all five of them are good on their own , but it's like you can't really pick out a favor . I want to say the yeah , like they're good on their own , but it's like it's hard to pick a favor . Yeah , Episode two , the quest Okay , so I like this one . This is the one where okay , that do Kataro .

He was losing fights in martial arts with Robin . He was in a fight with this new dude , and then keep in mind that Kataro's one of those dudes that's like he kind of fight a little dirty and have like underhanded tricks . So Robin was like feeling defeated . He decided , okay , I need to go to Asia to find a true master and train him in martial arts .

And that's kind of funny too . Like coach got to , we talked about this .

Speaker 2

Nick will never go back to that man .

Speaker 1

That's why you know exactly what I'm going to say . No matter what , he is not going back to Batman . I was like yo I would go all the way to Asia , but I would not go back to that man .

Speaker 3

It's like a being a puppy , bro . You just not going to go .

Speaker 2

Right , we finally escaped . I finally escaped . Like I think that's not Robin and T in this T and Titan show never said that , but like Nightwing has said this multiple times , when he's finally left , he's like I will come back to visit , but I will never stay .

Actually , the funny thing is that something that my brother said , that my oldest brother has actually said when he first moved out , one of the things I had asked him before . I was like how come you don't ever just like come and stay for a long time ? He said nah , bro . He said this city , that we in V town .

He said nah , he said it sucks you back in real quick . He said once I left , I said I'll never go back . I said I may go back to visit , but I will never stay longer than a week . It will not happen To this day , no matter what . Whenever he would visit , he would never stay longer than seven days . He would never even push an eighth day .

He would be gone seven on day . Seven . They would be gone .

Speaker 1

No see , at this point I kind of feel that sentiment . As much as I got love for V town , I'm like this is not the place to stay . I'm like I need to get up . Look out here .

Speaker 2

Exactly , but no . Some realness , though , is this but no , he would not go back . He would not go back . But real talk on to this one is the fact that . So the issue for Robin is this aspect . Now , I like this episode because the true master , really he doesn't teach Robin anything more than he doesn't already know .

It's just the fact that the issue is that you doubt yourself too much . You actually have all the skills . No , no .

Speaker 1

Listen , listen . It's like it's a couple of pandas moment where the group sorry with the golden scroll , where Paul looked at the scroll and I was like wait , there's nothing there . I was like that's because it was all within you the whole time . I was like oh , it was kind of that .

Speaker 2

That was funny .

Speaker 1

It's kind of like saying , oh , another thing , space jam , you know how with bugs , where you thought , okay , here's this special water , right . And I was like bro , it's just regular water , they just need some confidence . It was kind of that .

Speaker 2

So I'm true . True , it's like Robin had it . You already knew how to do , how to beat the guy . He just he was just beating himself up Like at this point , robin , he's already faced against some villains that he was not able to beat before , so it was just beating him up onto this aspect . He's like , bro , I keep coming across these villains .

That's like extremely tough and Batman can fight him . How come I can't fight him ? And it's like you can just push , like just keep pushing . You got this and really like that's just kind of the whole thing of the episode itself . A lot of times

Skill Specialization and Versatility Importance

. It's like sometimes you don't need to learn a new skill per se , you just need to maximize what you got Like . For some people , like let's put it this way , I know for me and Jet Black it works out well for us to be jack of all trades . We literally do a little of everything like literally , and that works out for us .

And it's not that we don't spend time trying to like really try to master something . It's just that we still have to be able to explore options and be able to do various different things versus some people yeah , versus for , like , some people .

You know they have one skill and the thing is , master that shit Like even for yeah , and that's okay , and just like I make a reference to Bakke in this aspect here too , or Love Million .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah .

Speaker 2

And even like well , putting this up , because like Bakke has him and his dad masters , multiple different like techniques and stuff .

But there's one master that Bakke still has some trouble with sometimes and he's a karate master , and one of the things that he kept getting picked on all the time about was this like I think it was like one season we didn't focus as much on Bakke , but it focused on the other masters and the prison riots , the prison breakers , like that one , the karate

master , was the fact that everyone kept picking on him . Even Muhammad Ali Jr picked on him too , and it was like you're just a one trick pony .

And his dude say he's like see , the thing about it is that y'all keep messing me about the fact , saying that , oh , I only like , you only know karate , you only know this , you don't mix it up with nothing like that , you only stick with this . He says you don't understand it .

He said because I stuck with this one thing , I've refined it to perfection , to absolute perfection . And then , like when you still lost some fights , he said that's just cause I'm human , I can get caught off guard . And he said but I learned in almost every single time . This dude has never lost a rematch .

Even if he doesn't win the first fight , this dude has never lost a rematch at all Period , and it's like that's how much he's refined his technique onto that point . He's like nah , bro , like yeah , okay , you may have beat me round one , but a round two . Your ass is grass also real shit .

Speaker 3

Hey , that was really listen to buddy from um demon slayer , the one that can only do that one attack . Yeah .

Speaker 2

Zenitsu , literally the fact that the attack is so fucking strong as hell . It's the fact that , even unconscious , this nigga will hit this attack back to back to back to back to back , even like was it ? I don't want to spoil if I don't want to spoil it too much , but just don't spread shit when he goes up against the upper moon demon .

Even the upper moon demon was like damn , this kid's on a whole nother level , like he keeps doing the same move . But shit , it's actually tough as hell to fight this dudes . That one attack is refined to such absolute perfection that even an upper moon demon is having trouble on that . Like just Also real shit .

Sometimes that's just how that works for some people . Your skill can be so great in this one aspect that nobody else can top it . Like it is straight up your skill and that's okay .

Speaker 1

My main thing is I just wish more people understand that these two schools of thoughts need to coexist . Where Sometimes it's okay to be a jack ball trade , sometimes it's better to be a master one , but don't project that , oh , the master one need to be more like a jack ball Trades .

Or the master one is projecting on the two , the jack ball trade saying that , oh , you need to Be more focused on one thing . I'm like it doesn't work for everybody . So it's like you're just kind of Assuming , based on what works for you , that it will work for me , but we're built different . That's it , and I'm cool with that . Are you cool with that ?

Yeah , that's all it is .

Speaker 3

Do you know how villainous it is to follow somebody there to try to steal their apprenticeship ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , okay , no , no . Another thing about this episode this dude was taking shortcuts to get to the true master . And the true master like brah , like how can I train you if you're willing to , not even on learn the proper way ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , but you know what ? You ain't even fit to be able to beat me up , because I'm finna follow you .

Speaker 2

Even the worst part about is that this dude literally took the shortcut every single time and he was like how come I can't learn this skill , how come I can't learn to do this ? And do say , because you shortcut it , you say he earned the skill he's like . That's not fair . I said I made it here first . Before he did , he said it doesn't make a difference .

That's not how this works . It doesn't work to who gets here fastest . It works to who truly earned it . Yo ass , didn't , he did , and that's why he's about the mountain floor to us . There we go

AI's Impact on Artists and Creatives

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Speaker 1

Actually , that's actually funny because I just saw a meme on Facebook talking about how this one dude like he's like big swole and all that , but he went through this Treacherous road and all that you know , with all sorts of obstacles and whatnot , and then there was a dude on the right to where it was just this sidewalk and he was just like perfectly fine

walking and all that and the whole point was that sometimes taking the tougher path Makes you stronger . But some people were saying that , oh well , if you're equally happy Taking the easier path , I might as well just take the easier path . And I'm like You're not wrong , but I just feel like I would feel better if I knew I earned it .

Like I , that's like with um the lake chemist annual says it's like Essentially you want to . If you're cocky like someone comes over cocky about what they're doing , is like did they put in the work ? Then they have to write the field cocky about it .

So it's like , it's like a satisfaction knowing that you earn the right to be cocky , you earn the title of whatever you do in your life . Rather than , oh well , I'm just gonna breeze through life . I'm like , yeah , I mean , it's easy and I guess you can't really complain , but at the same time it's like I don't know , just Not for me .

Speaker 2

I'm not saying look , I mean one , take this opportunity , because the artist and this is a hard thing , this is a real thing for me Special is going on with the actors right now too , because you know that , writer straight , honestly , hollywood is on complete standstill . They've stopped a lot of shit because it is AI .

Ai is just a shortcut for companies , for corporate , to rip people off . That's just all what the fuck it is . On some real shit , like I stand by one of my fellow artists , armani , like I , literally just I love this dude's art .

He's working on his own little comic right now too , just like I'm working on mine , and like I love I love looking at his shit too , and he always like he always shares some my stuff also . The thing about it is is the fact that I agree for whole hard .

What this dick says is the fact that literally , he says he one thing he absolutely hates is that people be sharing the AI art and Make it seem like this is their art and it's like .

No , what you did was take a picture , put it on the app and then the app did the work for you and you sit here , look at all this work , look what this work that I did . Oh my god , you put it .

You literally clicked an app , click the picture and now , all of a sudden , you should get thousands of views , you should get all this type of money and shit .

No , like we spend hours upon hours working on our crap , like we literally improve ourselves , get better and shit like that , and you just trying to like steal from us Hell to find out and the actors like underwriter and writers doing the same shit too .

We're literally just like no , because it's corporations are literally trying to pay people for like one day of work To get them scanned into a computer and then they will never get paid again for that project and then say you have to sign over your likeness forever . We can do whatever we want to do with it . And I'll put in this aspect .

There's literally , literally . There's a show on Netflix I will hope we get a chance to talk about it one day , but I mean it'll be a long discussion but there's a show Netflix called black mirror and specifically what this Is AI , going crazy and just not before real .

So the newest season that dropped recently Got a chance to watch with my wife and there's an episode where this shit happens . There's a girl , literally Because she downloaded like for her it wasn't Netflix , but it was like another little stream app that was just like Netflix and because she downloaded , she never read the terms of conditions .

In terms , of conditions says that they can record your life as you're living it and make a show out of it . And so what winds up happening is is that she's literally , yeah , on surreal shit . Look , so she's doing all this type of stuff . She's , unfortunately , she's cheating on her . She's cheating on her boyfriend .

She's as she's a man , she's a supervisor , her job and she's pretty much an asshole . And all that shit gets put out there like all of a sudden , a New show just pops up on the show and then like yo , what's this ?

And then like , but that's my name , and it winds up being an actual Actress , is portraying her like another actress is playing herself , that's playing her in this show , and so what winds up happening is she tries to sue the company because it puts her life out there .

Everybody's coming after her about shit , and what happens is is that even the actress is trying to get on , put a lawsuit in , but part of terms of conditions into it is that , oh no , they are able to do whatever they want to do with your likeness and they don't have to pay you any money for whatsoever , and whatever happens on that show , people will just

see you do it . So , literally like this girl's life is up there and she'll do . She could do the most obscene things . I'm not gonna spoil it , but let's just put it this way she does something really fucked up . And she does something really fucked up on purpose to see if it really will actually air on the show . And it does .

And that's what prompts is actress to file a lawsuit , because she's like y'all cannot make me do this up here . And they're like well , we didn't make you do it , we made an AI computer did that . And it's like okay , but that's just destroys my image .

Like people are up here looking and looking and there's just seeing me do this and they're thinking that I went up there and actually did this and had a recorded and put on TV and streaming service . And they're like well , there's nothing you can do about it .

You can't file a lawsuit , you can't do anything because you sign Allow your likeness to be used and we can do whatever we fucking want to do with it and there's nothing you can do about it and you won't get any type of compensation for it whatsoever . And that's literally what that episode is all about .

That's literally , and they put that episode out specifically because they , like the writers , literally talked about this . They're like they're , in all honesty , this is exactly where we're seeing is gonna happen with AI and go figure , that's exactly what the corporations are trying to do right now . Hell to fuck . No , just like so for this episode . Fuck that .

Robin earned that shit , fuck that artist , actors , writers we earn that shit . Fuck the AI stuff , man . Like there's one thing to use computers to help make things better , it's another thing to use computers to completely steal our lives . That shit , no , fuck about it . I .

Speaker 3

Feel that I just what they use Al Gore internet for for real .

Speaker 1

Yes , Bro , it's like we keep saying that , we kept Talking about AI . To where you know , with the way they're going about it , it's almost like the people who's participating in it . It just they have no blatant care of the future Remov occasion .

The main thing is it's almost like they want the instant gratification now , or mainly like they're catching in now and Okay , let's just ride the wave while it's still popular . But once the future ramifications kicks in , there was like , oh , we didn't know any better . I was like , oh right , like Bro , like it's been in the media for years to wear this .

This is something that , oh , oh , my god , I'm sorry , but it's like the Simpsons , south Park , just a whole bunch of shows in general to where they foreshadow shit like this , shit like in the comics and movies . They foreshadow shit like this .

To where , yo , like , at the rate that things are going , this is going to be our future and Funniest part is we're ironically Buying into it where , yeah , you know what ? Let's go ahead and have an idiotic receipt where we just have our robot overlords Tell us what to do and shit .

Speaker 2

Yeah , like I can't bro . Yeah , every day we get close to close up to that movie Every day and it's scary . But my apologies , I really had it like I . Obviously we use our platform for good and I'm gonna use my platform for good . I want you to understand for the AI . Shit bro , Look at that no .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I got this .

Speaker 2

We kind of use a little bit on some of our own stuff but , like I said , it's one thing to use it to help make improvements again . It's another thing to completely steal someone's lifestyle away from the bro , like I spent years , years working on my crap , working on my art , and I'm still improving myself to this day .

So to completely be like outside because Somebody coded up something . Again one thing it's a skill to code on something too , but you're using your coding to steal from other people and that's fucked up .

Speaker 1

I mean honestly funny enough . It's not even like Advanced level coding too is like just put in a sentence into a computer and then they just generates the image . I'm like it's , it's a laziness behind it . That's . That's what pissed me off . Behind it's like you're basically saying that Laziness should be rewarded .

Speaker 2

It's like I understand that on .

Speaker 1

I understand that sometimes For a fishy site that you might want to cut down on some of the work floats , where it's like it's not as tedious to do all this shit , to wear some tools , okay , to at least to agree , there's mainly a human element to using certain tools , so that was fine .

But when it gets to the point to where the machine is pretty much doing all the work for you , it's like it's kind of hard to pat yourself on the back , unless it's , like you , just Shameless about taking shortcuts in life .

Speaker 2

Exactly .

Speaker 1

But if that's your thing , I'm like , okay , you know that's your thing , like I can coexist with that , but not for me .

Speaker 2

Yeah , look , I'm gonna say this one last thing . There's another reason why I was the safe , like they are shit , and then I want to . We can go ahead , move on to .

Yeah , we got a Thank you for this shit happened onto this is because , like so , there was an artist I followed on Twitter Literally took a screenshot of the DM message that somebody sent a private message where it was like hey , I really like your art .

I have your permission to upload your art to this AI app so I can use it on for a sale that I'm trying to do right now . And they're like wait , you're usually like my art . So instead of saying hey , can you draw something for me ? Hey , can you do this for me , can we partner together ?

Some you say , can I steal your picture so I can get paid and you get nothing .

Speaker 1

Really , yeah , it's really funny too , because I shared a post with our recently it was someone else's on 3d model , and then somebody was talking about hey , can I use this to make NFTs ? I was like , bro , first of all , this is not even mine .

Second of all , that is a very weird thing to just Introduce with and third of all , I know your deals where you just probably just gonna steal anyways , like you did , like how that one dude did our friend monthro to where it's like hey , can I ? use your art . I was like no , I was like that's too bad because I'm using it anyways .

I was like bro , what the fuck ?

Speaker 2

Like people really don't care . That's why nowadays , the only way to get some heart is on patreon . I'm gonna give my compensation for it If you don't still have . At least I got paid for it . That's just a shit . I got paid for it , some form of that . Yeah , I don't really shit . But I mean , look Either way . So we're gonna go ahead , move

Discussion on "Teen Titans" Episode

on . But again it is just like kind of still points of like the quest , everything is the quest , everything is the journey . Like the journey is the most important part . It's not just the destination , it's the journey getting there . So skipping .

Speaker 1

This is why people don't have a bound full appreciation for one piece , because you know all those episodes . They're like I don't know a thousand episodes just to find this treasure . I like a row , like you're missing the whole point . It's about the journey , not the destination .

Speaker 2

I mean that's making it important . So this is the journey getting there that makes the destination better .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so I mean real shit .

Speaker 2

Anyway , move forward .

Speaker 1

when we finally get a chance to talk about Raven , let's go yeah so Raven's birthday approaches and of course she has no interest in celebrating it and she in fact just wanted the whole day to pass . Sometimes when I have birthday , something like you know , I just wanted a day to be over with .

But if I do have something planned , I'm like , okay , that depends on what I have planned . But anyways , uh , the Titans they tried to throw a surprise birthday party , but brave move is just not having to destroy all the decorations .

And later on Titans get alert and they find out our boy , slade , has returned with new powers and has a message for Raven From her father for telling her destiny . So during the battle between Slade and Titans , raven stopped time with her Slade and Robin , unaffected . And yeah , cook , you got to anything to add on to this ?

Look , this episode to me was very interesting because you reintroduced Slade .

Speaker 2

It showed that this nigga's a badass on some real shit . So look , avatar reference , okay , in Legend of Korra . Remember , this is one dude . I can't remember his name , but he's the . He's the leader of the red lotus , the people that's supposed to hunt down the avatar , but he has no bending ability yeah , but he has no bending ability whatsoever .

But as soon as he gets a bending ability , he has a here . As soon as he gets a bending ability , he is the most dangerous and badass motherfucker there is .

Yeah Damn show they're gonna some real shit Still in air like literally stealing the breath of air from people , just killing murky people left the right , like damn , like that's the same shit that happened with Slade . Slade . The only thing he had was just like combat ability . He's also difficult to kill , but he just had combat ability .

This mother was like oh , I have my combat ability now I can then fire . Oh , Slade started mopping slow mother fuckers like it was nothing , just straight up , just murky , like not murky and killed nobody , but still like just straight up , laying people out left and right , left and right .

And it was like bruh , we thought Slade was dangerous before this news showed up with fire bending powers . Oh , so the point , and then the bad part about it , is this his only job was to reawaken the birthmark in Raven . That was the only thing he had to do .

Speaker 1

Every this entire episode was just him having fun and I was like pretty much bro , it was basically fighting the title for just something to do , but I was like okay , this is what I really came here for . I need to activate this birthmark .

Speaker 2

Activate it . Then just bounces like niggas , just like straight up , just made , just made Raven cry and moan all types of shit . Then just like I did what I needed to do and just bounce like that , I'm like how you do anything like this . Oh , I'm sorry .

Speaker 1

You just actually reminded me how you remember how we were talking about how , back in the day . New grounds has some very interesting videos , some of which had something to do with the Titans , and One of them had to include Raven and slave .

Speaker 2

Don't look at .

Speaker 1

No , we're like Joe from all the media movies , not the stage plays , but the movies we were . You was like out in um . I was like don't do it , don't do it .

Speaker 2

Don't do it . Maybe don't do it . Don't do it , Don't do it . You're telling you not do it . It is for 18 and plus . Only don't do it Now .

Speaker 1

Moving forward , I mean I Was like I mean , we're explicit , pause kids . We can say that , but hey , we're not . We're not saying , we're not trying to Bring your attention to his life , just a reference . Just don't look at it , don't get it . But uh well , we have you . Um , you have any input on this episode ?

Speaker 3

I get it was . I think it was a great start to like her story , but I do remember being creeped out by the episode when I first watched it , because Having slave return to the land of living bro that she was kind of like , oh no , but it did what I do like .

The highlight about it , though , is that it gave a permission of the season finale , which was interesting , um , yeah , but besides that , her being able to stop time , that was a great addition to her powers .

Speaker 1

Even though she ain't , she didn't see the intention of it , though .

Speaker 3

So , but other than that it was pretty good . It was a callback to um , to the haunted episode when Robin talks to Raven about her being in the mind , and then a never , the never more episode for show too , um , with dr Light .

Speaker 1

Yeah , no , you know what ? Y'all this remind me of something . This is the second episode in a row they don't do it anymore , but this is second episode in a row to where they have this foreshadowing of Trigon coming , and every time they have these episodes , dr Light is somehow involved .

Yeah , because in the opposite , of darkness is like I mean I know , yeah , we talked about it in the Previously Bob's fans , but I just like how they really trying to lean on this whole concept doesn't be scary , they may .

Speaker 2

Every single time dr Bright shows up that , like there's something about , the light shows up . Damn wait , try guns about to happen . With his light there's darkness . Oh no , so don't say it with a smoke , this fire , that's just what .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , I'm right .

Speaker 2

But no , it's a real shit though . But yeah , cook a team to anything else you happen is episode like I .

Speaker 3

Know , that's basically it . I do like how they link stuff up to the season finale . It's just like building up .

Speaker 1

Right , I want to say with episode four and five . Honestly , I don't have much to say on these . Like episode four was about cyborg somehow getting thrown five thousand years into the past , I have to help out this woman named Sarah Sim . This tribes under attack by a horde of creatures .

While he's become the tribe savior , the battle wears out his batteries and there's no place for him to recharge . So I don't got a whole lot to say on that Motherfucking Duncan boy .

Speaker 3

He was in that episode . So you said about four and five or just four , just four . Go cuz five . What ?

Speaker 2

the fuck . Yeah , hold on a real talk . So for it was a good filler episode , one that kind of gave side work his own little like side story , just kind of move forward . It's the entertaining episode as a standalone . There's not really a lesson so much into this one other than like don't rely so much on technology , rely on your own weight as well too .

It's kind of the only thing I may have gotten from it , but I don't know there was like a lesson to this episode other than this was just like a good entertaining episode to put out there . Like for a filler episode . It was pretty decent . Yeah , don't rely on me .

Speaker 3

I'm not saying with you don't need no arm . Yeah , what the pot is like .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's like um , it's like what Tony starts told to Peter Parker's like I'm nothing without this suit . I was like what , maybe you shouldn't have it .

Speaker 2

Exactly you got you got it . It's not about this out , it's about what's inside . So I probably like the main thing into this was like Cyborg was nervous . He was like there's nothing I'm gonna be able to do , but he was able to make it work yeah .

Speaker 1

I really know this .

Speaker 3

I reference Friday pops over there like so what are you doing with the gun Ceci-fi ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , oh yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , definitely man rest in peace . So many good people just go home , All right .

Speaker 1

I was just telling friend of mine . I'm sorry , but I was just telling friend of mine recently , like you know how , with Jerry's springer passing away out like bro , I've been watching Jerry springer episode like every now and I like that's how I've been watching Bulldogs .

Speaker 3

man , I'll be watching bulldogs like damn , we'll never get pops again , buddy yeah .

Speaker 2

It makes me give him a little more respect for season four . You know , season four still was Not the best season .

Speaker 1

No , I mean how y'all gonna do a pork Friday without pop .

Speaker 2

Yeah that's true . I mean Technically , you can just be like having montage .

Speaker 1

I mean oh yeah , true .

Speaker 2

It just won't feel the same I mean yeah . Now , you only showed up a little bit . He was at the beginning when he dropped them off , but he picked them up , that was about it . It was like really short .

Speaker 1

But not . But even then it was like his bitch was funny . It was like , oh , you know how he had to go to the bathroom , shit , like it was still kind of funny . So it's like he still kind of stole the show when he had the spotlight .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we are . We are like has somebody related to like that you ? Know , Employee of the month .

Speaker 1

Yeah , this one where a mr Series of UFO raised on farms with the targets being cow to everyone's multiplication . I mean , come on , ufo is trying to steal cows like we kind of . It makes no sense , but this is like a trope that we're not . It's not like we're not used to this kind of trope , you know I mean .

So anyway , beast Boy wants his moped but got no money of his own . Robin won't buy him one and Cyborg won't build him one , so once again , it's a callback to where you gotta earn it . So he gets a job at mega meaty meat , this restaurant where it sells nothing but meat and you know , beast Boy , being a vegetarian one night , you don't like this .

Yeah , but amen , it is money , so gotta Suck it up and deal with it . But his workplace proved to be more than just a restaurant , with this villain named new food yeah . But um anybody got any nooks on this one , I .

Speaker 2

Mean . It's important to do what you're supposed to do , but if a job is horrible , don't be afraid to walk away and leave . I guess I don't have nothing for this episode .

Speaker 3

This one was just like trash .

Speaker 2

Trash , because the thing about it is like episode four at least , like it was very entertaining . This one was like as a kid I enjoyed it , it would have a lot of laughs to it , but like there was nothing to hold on to in this episode . This is an episode that keeps , that gets real , that got reruns like that . So I don't know .

Speaker 1

Gotcha All right . Ladies and gentlemen , on , at this point in the season it's gonna get real heavy because yes but all these episodes at this point ? Yeah , we got something to say about these facts so episode six truck .

So you got this villain named Val you are right , he and let's the help of the Titans to fight this enemy of this vicious fighting on machines called the lacrosse .

And Despite his trans curse , bravery and all that shit , we noticed that he has this very , very this thing for starfight and the rest of the Tamarani and Khan , even giving starfighter this nickname , trock , which causing some discomfort among the team

Racism in TV Episode Discussion

. Now they say that this episode is a special episode about racism , to where the funny thing is it was cyborg , the main one , that at first pros star about this sort of thing , and At first , you know , starfighter was trying to be cool with value or being mad , disrespectful , and then , when cyborg was like what's up truck ?

I was like don't you ever call me that again . I was like whoa , whoa , I'm sorry , but I didn't mean to offend you . I thought you meant it meant nothing . I was like , yes , it literally means nothing . He's saying that I am worthless and I was like , well , why he say that ? I was like bro , that's just how it is .

But some of these people have value , or it's like they just think Tamarari is just another but savages . So they just call his name just kind of like free to call him saying his monkeys and whatnot . You just gonna have people that just gonna think less of you .

And it's funny because you know , cyborg being half black man , half machine , it's like this will be one of those things where , oh , I see what's going on here , but you know , and then later , eventually , the rest of the team called on to LA map . We didn't like what you were saying to on star park . We're on to you now , buddy .

And I was like , hey , man , just chill out . Man , no , no , no , no , no , she's our friend . No , she's more than just a friend , she's our family . And you come at family , you got a problem with the whole family . Yeah , so it was one of those moments I was like , oh , I thought y'all are different . I was like , yeah , you are .

Speaker 2

I want to mention something real quick before we make this fast and furious reference . Okay , I have to say , bold as hell as these writers to make an episode and call it nigga and then just go to the episode and say and say what's up , nigga , nigga , nigga , nigga , nigga , this nigga . That was something like literally the whole episode straight up .

That's what nigga was before .

Speaker 1

If you were a black kid , why can't you do exactly what's going on ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , it was . Black was nothing . You was , you was nothing . That was it . It was worthless . That's exactly what it is being called . Nigga meant worthless , so straight up on solution . They just called a whole episode nigga . That's what exactly it is . That's the whole . That's the name of the episode . That's the whole episode .

Speaker 3

It's like saying I don't know , calling non magical folks muggle or similar to like I don't know Draco calling Hermione a mudblood bro .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you said it was something like once .

Speaker 3

Excuse me , yeah , but it's great episode because they had a great message on the door Right . Once the Titans understood what it was , though , they was like , oh hell , no , they was so understand .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we ain't doing this shit , no more . Hold the fuck up , bro . We and I thought we're starting fire bro .

Speaker 1

I really thought we're up because she shows her stuff to be the bigger person , and that's what you , why we always got to be the bigger person , though I was like no , no , no , Look , look , I like how you said that , because they remind me of a post that I saw to where sometimes being the bigger person sometimes translate as except the disrespect I was like

exactly , oh the .

Speaker 2

Teen Titans style All of us we got in there so yeah , I know I'm just saying .

Speaker 1

That's why I'm saying like you know , we get to this episode .

Speaker 2

Exactly this . Also one of those episodes where you know like , like Jeff , like this goes back also to what you had mentioned as well , too where I know I have talked about before where a lot of times is it's like robbing the first one , the first one that catches on , is something wrong .

Like for the past three seasons , rob is always the first one to catch up the norm that something is wrong into this , but in this case , cyborg is the first one to catch up on .

Speaker 1

It may just be for him to .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it may sense for me . And also adding on to like you said , he is a leader of his own too . So you had that into that aspect as well . That he does . He's the eldest and he has those extra those also leadership roles as well too , so he was going to be able to pick up on things that maybe even Robin may want to miss it .

He can help pick up the slack because he can look at the other side of it . He's able to see those different things .

Speaker 3

Yeah .

Speaker 2

So it is another thing that does make it sense , while Cyborg is also a great leader in his own too .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , but yeah , it's like layers to this shit . I mean you're thinking , okay , yes , but it should be obvious .

But it's like you got to think more into it to where it's like , not only because it's like you have this alien that thinking superior to this other race , but it just goes to show that , considering that the team is considered like it's a very mixed race , a mixed bag I'm sorry I'm brain farting today it's like a mixed bag of characters .

You have a white kid , you have a white girl who's like half demon , you have a boy who has green skin , a half black man , half machine and a straight up alien . So it's like you could say they don't really see color .

But it's not even like that , Just moral lines of hey man , like doesn't matter where you come from , it's just how you treat people , that what matters , Like it's a matter of you shouldn't think so highly of yourself that you have to bring others down .

Speaker 2

It's kind of like that I don't know .

Speaker 1

Like am I making sense here ? I don't know .

Speaker 2

You are . You are most definitely so . It's just one of those things is just like you really got to be careful how you treat people . I think also one thing I want to mention as well too . In this aspect we already know understanding that Starfire never lies . So throughout this whole , like most of the time into it , they say yo , this is Starfire ourselves .

So what does it mean ? Nothing , and it's one of those things that , like they think that you know , oh , it doesn't mean anything at all . It's always nothing to worry about , but Starfire never lies . Starfire is always straightforward with what she says .

Speaker 1

No , no , no no .

Speaker 2

So if you drop something to say it means this it was a complete miss . But it's an obvious miss because you don't really think about it like that . When someone says I was nothing Like how you feeling today I'm okay , and sometimes you'll be like , yeah , I'm okay , I'm occupied thinking about killing myself .

No , okay , like sometimes , okay ain't the right answer , but it's the accurate answer , but it's not the best answer and you want to really try to check into that .

Speaker 1

Right , no see , hold on . You just reminded me of something . How I like how Starfire was so stoic about it , you know , like she was in control for emotions , to where she didn't just flip out on value , or because that wouldn't make her the more mature person by just flipping out on value , or for calling her that .

And so in a way I want to say , in a way I want to say Starfire , here's your black card You're welcome to do on cook out .

Speaker 2

Bruh , I'm surrealist though , but yeah , no , like I'm surrealist . Like she did , she stepped up hard onto that one because it's one of those ones that you like you know what . Like if you did step on me like don't you dare call me that shit , Bruh , I don't like that .

Like that's one of the things like sometimes you got to step up for yourself , like right on some point . I'm just letting nobody call you like that . If it's disrespect , you let them know up in front . That's disrespectful . I don't like that , you know . Otherwise you're allowing the behavior to continue .

If you're just push passive one time , you're saying that you are allowed to say this to me every single time and I will do absolutely nothing about it . I don't care , Absolutely nothing about it .

Speaker 1

Honestly , it still reminds me of that one , always sunny episode . The context of the episode doesn't really matter that much , but they just had this one moment where Mack was talking to this black dude who was dating this girl who was a tranny .

Essentially he was quoting the scripture in the Bible and excuse me if I'm miswording it , but essentially what the phrasing was going is that if the master strikes his servant and he's broken , then you know he has to like compensate for the servant . If the servant gets struck and gets back up with it again , then you know it's all good .

I'm kind of mistranslated . I'm sorry , but it was the thing . And point being is that as long as you accept their disrespect , that's like saying okay , so it's okay for me to treat you this way . I was like no , it's not , no , it's not so . Yes , you're right , yeah , so you do need to stand up to yourself at some point .

But I still like the way how she's like trying to be in control to where it's like she's not trying to give him the satisfaction , to where she's just she just proving him right about being a savage and whatnot . So at least you try to conduct herself . But she doesn't like completely dismiss it . You know what I mean , so I know how I would feel .

Speaker 3

But how was y'all feeling that situation ? Because if that was me and I would start for her . But I would value your ass , bro .

Speaker 1

Honestly , no , no , I literally had this moment

Navigating Real Relationship and Workplace Issues

at work . It was like an old job . I literally had this moment to where there was this dude and he was just being mad about something , something about the AC is like okay , I'm gonna need to turn AC down , and he was just complaining and shit . And then he went to me is like apparently he was just yelling and all I heard was something about the AC .

So I was like , okay , let me just do that . And apparently one coworker's like split to me hey man , you really handle that well . I was like you know , it was whatever . But I didn't even hear him say that he was calling me the hard ER . It was almost like my brain just blanked out the whole time . When he was saying that .

I was like , okay , I'm gonna pretend you didn't say that for the sake of my job . But you saying something about the AC , okay gotcha . But yeah , when I went back to that kitchen I was like , yeah , you'd be every really lucky . I was on the clock .

Speaker 2

As far as for me though I already pretty much said it I don't know . I've grown up never to accept disrespect like that . That's just what it is . I was raised by a single black mom . Then the substance Like I was not raised to be to be disrespected whatsoever . You disrespect me .

I'm making it very clear that you disrespect me and if you continue to disrespect me , situations will occur . If we are in the workplace , understanding situations will be handled on by superiors . Superiors don't handle that situation . There's always a higher chain to go and I will go as high as it needs to to get your hands on , and I have done that before .

I will do it again as needed . If we on the street understand this , you ain't never gonna cross my path again , period .

Speaker 1

So yeah , you can kind of understand , ladies and gentlemen , how we feel about this episode now .

Speaker 2

Yeah , like it's the same . Like you said , all of this real onto that one , like the quest wanted to be real to us too . This is also one of those ones that this is a real episode , like a lot of these episodes talk about , address real issues and there's a reason that it needs to be addressed .

And this is this one of the shows that got a lot of praise on Cartoon Network , because it's all the time around the time Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and Disney was doing this Because I think around the same time this was happening , teen Titans was getting popular with this stuff , my real talk that was happening .

We had that's so Raven was happening , some real situations that was happening . On Disney Channel we also had a couple of Nickelodeon shows that was like addressing actual , real issues that was starting to happen and like it's actually becoming an issue nowadays to where a lot of there's a lot of parents as far as what I've mostly seen .

So I'm not going to make a full judgment , but what I've mostly seen is usually conservative white parents . That's usually what's become most notable on the internet . That's just what I'm going to say on that .

But a lot of these parents are frustrated because they're like you don't need to be teaching my kid about this and that and that and they don't know sometimes that lack of understanding it will make your child like come out bad , because one of the things about this is two ways to handle a situation . No , actually , yeah , there's three ways to handle situations .

A lot of times these situations is that you can be someone who's doing something bad . You can be someone who's the victim of someone doing something bad to them . You can be the accuser , the victim or the bystander , and the bystander you don't step in and do anything . You're just as bad as the accuser because you sat there and watched it .

That means you're allowing this , allowing this to happen , and you're allowing this behavior to be shown to you . As far as this , is okay for me to do as well .

Speaker 1

You know what . You just remind me of something . I have a question . I was in this situation to where I had this friend and she was in a relationship with this dude and no one else knew , even knew , about the relationship . So for me and maybe a , maybe two other people , and point being is that come to find out that she was getting cheated on .

But the thing about it is because they were trying to keep the whole thing under wraps anyways , it was more like um , I don't know what to say in this matter because , like , supposedly I was supposed to stay out of it , but with this new information it's like okay , let me slide to the do . And he was like , yeah , don't tell anybody .

And I was like , uh , yeah , here's the thing . I don't normally do ultimatums , but in this case I have to . Either you're going to tell me what you did or I will , because , fuck all that .

I don't want to be in a position to where I'm like I have this information and I'm just letting it slide because you know , just to protect your fuckery , but it's like it'll make me look just as bad for keeping it a secret . So you tell me , am I wrong for like letting my friend know that , yeah , he's not the bullshit A little bit .

Speaker 3

It's 50 , 50 .

Speaker 2

Look kind of .

Speaker 3

I mean it can go bad either way for you , because if you don't tell them , they find out , you know something like it comes bad .

Speaker 2

They don't get mad .

Speaker 3

But if , even if you tell ? Them and they don't believe you , or you know what I mean it can still look bad and then sometimes , depending on the person though sometimes what happens is like they get mad at you and they don't even get mad at the person .

Speaker 1

Okay , well , to be fair , see , the print did believe me . But when I tried to express that okay , I am sorry that this happened , I was like , oh , no , I don't need your pity , or anything like that . I was like , okay , and that was just about it .

But I was like , hey , to be fair , I just thought I don't know , because I would have felt bad for just keeping it a secret . It's like it'll be even worse . I don't know .

Speaker 3

Yeah , that was my first time by my business .

Speaker 1

Yeah , that's why I'm like , from now on , you know what I'm saying out of this shit .

Speaker 2

From now on , because , like that was just a situation , that because it really varies , I guess , because , like Okay , well , look for me , I'm gonna have to say the same thing . It varies for me on this , and here's why I say this . Okay , I say this because it does depend on the person .

Like I've already made this reference on the previous episode , like I was thinking what ? Two episodes ago I think , I made this reference to Jeff Black , where I was like to get cheating and his friend was like I invested in your wedding . I'm getting my money's worth shit like hell . No , he's like you see . You see the ass of that girl .

Like no , no , no , you see the ass of your wife . That's what you need to pay attention to . Yeah , no , you talking about bro . Your eyes is for your wife only . That's my best . Me is paid for y'all to be together .

Speaker 3

You were all the money to go to that wedding .

Speaker 2

You've seen it . You've seen it . You've seen it . You know that . But , yeah , like and honestly , it really depends on the person . I have been in that situation before where a friend of mine literally he was cheated on by a girl , by a girl and I knew the girl too , and that actually did it happened to and I was like , bro , this is really fucked up .

And it was one of those ones that I was honest with . I was like , look , I'm gonna be honest with you and like you , my friend , you like a sister to me , but that's really fucked up .

And because you like a sister to me , I'm gonna look out to you like a brother would do and , as a brother , I'm gonna tell you that was really fucked up , like for real , it was real fucked up , shit . I'm like , you know , tell him , because he's a homeboy to me , too Awesome . I said you need to tell him .

If you don't tell him , I'm gonna have to tell him . And I'm like and it's not even as if the attack against you , but I don't need no more homeboys having this shit like that . If this happened to you , if he was doing it , I was doing the same thing . I would tell him that he had a better , that he better tell you , or I'm gonna tell you .

And whatever happens happens on stage . I don't want to lose another one of y'all at the same time . It's fucked up and that's the thing .

Speaker 1

That's just a funny thing is , I think , with the whole I think this is going to be kind of biased , but not that I believe this , but more like . I think it would be easier if it was more like .

If it wasn't , if you weren't in friends with both of them , like if you were different with one of the other , then it's just easy to be like okay , yeah , like I don't need to even be in your business and like , oh , you're cheating on them , whatever , that does have nothing to do with me , but if your friends were both with them , then it's like and you

know that shit is like .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you have to choose sides at some point , and sometimes even like choosing to be neutral is still choosing a side , and that's something that a lot of people don't know understand . I'm so that , like I didn't choose a or B , I know you chose option C . There's no option C . There is always an option C . There is an option C .

Speaker 1

You can always stay out of it .

Relationship Tension in "Stranded" Episode

Speaker 2

Look actually why we hear this is an important thing , Like why we talking about this , because this actually does pertain to the next episode . Really quick . No , sorry , I'm not saying to make so . Next episode was prophecy . It pertains to the episode after strand , the episode 47 . So forgive me .

Speaker 1

Oh , yes , I want to talk about that one . Go ahead .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we're going for a brief moment . We're going to skip just the prophecy . We're going to skip that . We're going to start a raving episode , not because not important , of course , but to tie in what we're talking about right now .

So stranded happens when explosion winds up landing all the team , titan , stranded on pretty much five different directions in five different areas of stuff . So , and the thing about is that this episode winds up deriving a lot of tension .

We've had so much tension built up between Robin and starfire , where Cyborg wants to making a joke about Starfire and Robin and it rubs them the wrong way and it was becoming an issue . And now Robin and Starfire are really trying to figure out themselves as far as like , is this who I really want to be with ? Is this really how I feel ?

Because Robin wants to responding in a way that makes Starfire be like oh , I'm not as important to you , and then Robin's like no , that wasn't bad , I was just like responding because I was embarrassed and it became a whole big issue in this . So this episode is real .

It's into that because at the same time , you trying to find your way back home , while trying to find your way back home mentally and physically , like and you see this happen a lot of shows and movies where the character is lost mentally and physically and as they're trying to find their way back physically , they're finding their way back to themselves mentally as

well . This is a really intense episode and unfortunately , I'm sad to say , this is also a second episode that is not available on . That is not available on Max , but it's also not available on Prime either .

But unfortunately , unlike the Mad Mod episode , the Fourth of July special episode that they had , where you can still watch it on YouTube and Voodoo , you cannot watch this on YouTube either . The reason being is because , with it being such a very emotional episode , because of the fact that it deals so heavily in relationship tension , it wound up airing .

They did a couple reruns of this , but not much in . The reason being is because parents actually complained that it was giving their kids Mix , confusing feelings about their emotions and relations with opposite sex .

Speaker 1

No , no , no , that's it up , because here's what I think the Connected like . Hold on , hold on . Hold on , because what I like about this episode was Okay , they got stranded and separated Cyborg and these boys working on the t-shirt Even though these boys being these boys trying to bug cyborg , but it was whatever .

Raven is off on her own trying to deal with these . Yeah but then with Robin and starfire this the one I mainly want to talk about how essentially cyborg on cold Robin and was like a yo , so we're strength , we're gonna try to get the t-shirt up and whatnot .

And they basically tried on taunt Robin , saying like oh , don't worry , um , we'll make sure we rescue you and your girlfriend later . And she was . He was like oh , she's not my girlfriend . I was like what , wait , I'm not . Yeah , what's the girlfriend's like ? So if I'm not your girlfriend , then what am I ? And then you say Because no .

Speaker 2

No , because your friend at all . I'm a girl .

Speaker 1

No , I'm not your friend . No , listen , listen .

Well , I like about is that this was genuine confusion from starfire , but it was the implication that we know in real life to where sometimes Whether it's like man or woman , like it could be , them do that's doing it or the woman who's doing it , to where y'all be having these Situationships , being friends with benefits , y'all fooling around , but you're not trying

to put labels on it and then next to you know one of y'all be like . So what are we ?

Speaker 2

This one , those ones and you like so . So they call me your girlfriend . I mean you a girl that's my friend . Yeah , like no , call me your girlfriend . I mean we talking .

Speaker 1

Not yet , but it's coming , it's coming .

Speaker 3

What I want to tell you about is the space monster , right . If you remember it's similar to echo . Echo , I want to have that to be like his natural it is . It is actually .

Speaker 2

It is definitely because this one , like , has like the slime drooled , it's like fucking acidic that can harm them there like literally anybody . Yeah , so , yeah , oh , but no . So this , but this episode like it one of cause and makes feelings because of the fact that tackles on to the term girlfriend , boyfriend .

Oh , this is my boy , that's my friend , or this is my girl , this is a girl that is my friend . And it became a lot of mixed confusions and it was like it's causing too many problems . Kids are not understanding and real talk what honestly I think would have been a really great response .

It's like maybe this is a great opportunity for you to have the birds and the bees conversation with your kid , because obviously they really thinking about it anyway , instead of you trying to skip on this conversation , but no , I mean this is team Titan , so it's like he's gonna be a matter of time . Yeah , you think about

Discussion of Teen Titans Episodes

it . The episode is specifically tied to , like , ages eight and up . Like , even though kids six and seven Be watching this . Literally , the age reading on this shit was eight and up , ideally preferably ten .

Speaker 3

Yeah , but Only other thing I got on this episode , like I thought we're starting , for you know , I always thought we're starting fire , but she was using a bow and arrows and that was dope . See , it's just like using both narrow . That was pretty cool .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's boy .

Speaker 3

I board they always a hoop . They good together . They got good chemistry too . And then , uh , raven was treated like royalty .

Speaker 2

She was like like so also one important thing to understand . Here too , it also turns into exactly how much star fires emotions are tuned into her powers as well . Just so this is actually a great call back to the episode swapped , where Raven and star fire has swapped Bodies for a moment .

So in this episode as well , the more that star fire doubts herself , she starts losing her powers . She first started losing the ability to fly . She was unable to fly because she no longer felt the emotions that gave her that ability .

And then she started you losing the ability to shoot her on star bolts because she no longer felt the righteous fury that she had anymore . The more she doubted herself , she limited herself literally , and it wound up my not hours .

Speaker 1

My , not boyfriends making me feel some type of way . So I'm not feeling it today . And you wonder this is where we're .

Speaker 2

Robin had to step up and the more that he was able to like , apologize , give more explanation and also this is a crazy part about it the more Robin explained it , the worse she felt , because it made her understand the fact that this is exactly how she felt about Robin , but it was not how he felt about her . Would you actually ?

Would have been one of minute ? No , no , no , it's . It's funny because I was also going to mention that Robin was trying to explain it without friends owning himself exactly , exactly . It was like I don't want to friends on myself because it's an opportunity that this may happen .

Speaker 1

But it's like I was not expecting this .

Speaker 3

Good over . Like girl you , my moon is stars . I have been on .

Speaker 1

I've been on what ?

Speaker 3

Robin trip . He try and like Batman to one .

Speaker 1

I had this whole six month plan and it's like this is not part of a plan .

Speaker 3

But Raven though , yeah . It's something about God .

Speaker 1

Speaking with some . You don't want to go ahead and talk about episode seven a little bit , because I said I got . Yeah , I got . It Okay , Cool , cool , anything else on episode eight no , I see . I get okay , cool , all right . Episode nine overdrive basically .

Yeah , cyborg is trying to install the new computer She'll be trying to like overclock himself , I guess , and trying to increase his strength and his speed and efficiency eight times over . And this multiplying um metahuman Billy numerous appears to on the scene and give some cyborg some trouble .

Now , not much , but playing enough , considering what's just going on , because tough you already know . But Think it up , billy numerous kind of remind me of twice from my here at academia , especially in recent times where I've like oh man . Yeah , but that's all I gotta say on . It really is like yeah , this is the episode , the thing .

Um , anybody got any notes on that ?

Speaker 3

just Billy numerous .

Speaker 2

He very entertaining as a villain , so that that really made the numerous was actually like he was goofy as well , like , honestly , he's a villain that , um reminds you of mirror master when it comes down to flash sometimes , right , so I think that's probably in that aspect there . So I think this is , but yeah , definitely he was pretty funny in this aspect .

Yeah , hold on real quick , because I know this one's kind of a simple one into this , but I know we still we wound up skipping episode seven , the prophecy .

Speaker 1

Um , no , that's what I'm saying , that , yeah , anything to say . Those episode seven I thought y'all were like , okay , no , I'm sorry .

Speaker 2

I thought you , I thought you literally thought you said episode eight . My bad , that was on my phone .

Speaker 1

No .

Speaker 2

I mean episode seven winds up being one . It's another little Proceed move forward about raven Getting closer to like the prophecy is one of those ones that , even though we had a couple filled episodes , it's kind of a reminder that hey , uh , don't forget raven . Even though you have any other adventures , your birthday already passed , I'm coming .

She's about to go down , like don't forget .

It was like damn , raven can't have no calming periods whatsoever , like no matter what , she can have no moments whatsoever Without somebody stepping in and be like hey , I just want to remind you real quick , but I remind you real quick , you fucked yeah that's like that moment of like , it's like that bully that tells you that , um , at three o'clock he said ,

when school bell rings , meet me outside . And then , like every class period , he walks past . You like Don't forget three o'clock , nikki , you've already told me five times . Yeah , how many times , bro ? Are you just ? You so bad , you so badly want to get your ass laid out , that you ?

Speaker 1

just want to keep the perfect .

Speaker 3

Hey , y'all fuck with um game of thrones . Yeah , it's similar to that bro for thousands of years , these motherfuckers talking about . Winter is coming , but then she went to camp shit .

Speaker 2

We'll say the end of times is coming . We keep wondering all the time ai is about to take over . Can the robots about to take over our robots ? About to happen , bro idiot .

Speaker 1

Actually about to happen , bro Watch it's like the white walkers pounded their fists against their palm is like winter is coming . Mother fuckers , just wait .

Speaker 2

Oh , even it's the witcher yeah , like in the witcher series , keeps getting reminded all the time Of the fact it's like a a the wild hunts coming , wild hunts coming . Yeah , bro , it's definitely bruh . This last season was so fucking good but yeah , but no , that's okay , that's all I got for the properties that , but it is one of those ones .

Primarily is just the fact that bruh Can't get a break for shit . Bruh , all right , but no overdrive . Overdrive is also one of those ones where it's like it's another call back again to cyborg , embracing his robotic side and his humanity side as well too . It's just .

It's just pretty much one of those things I'm like hey , cyborg , you have the ability to keep upgrading bruh , just don't stop . Keep going , keep going . But yeah , it's just also really fucked up . Again proves that the titans tower security is bullshit , broken into all the damn time like bruh .

Speaker 3

Because he don't fall Brother blood . He don't fall slayed and billy numerous and give you a hard time but Ain't no way .

Speaker 2

I mean Look , billy numerous is it's the fact that he can like joke , it's fat . He get on your damn nerves because they might . This way it Talking shit to somebody . It throws that game off like when the person has a whole new head . They can do whatever , but like .

Speaker 1

It's like imagine If you were in a fight with spider-man and Deadpool , but they multiplied and they just cracking jokes on you the whole time .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I don't know . I wouldn't even need multiple spider-man's bruh , just one spider-man cracker jokes on me as he's .

Speaker 1

I mean , but consider spider-verse though . Consider spider-verse though .

Speaker 3

That's all I'm saying when I be talking shit because I play , uh super smash brothers and I be wearing ass out .

Speaker 2

So yeah , but pretty much . That's just how I work out .

Speaker 3

I talk shit the whole time too .

Speaker 2

Oh , very , oh , man , that's funny , that's funny , but no , yeah , you know , that's the pretty thing about it . Like , literally , you have , adonis is the muscle , the billy , numerous is distraction , that's all it is . So them two , they don't work well together , but they work well together enough to make shit happen there , and it just it was aggravating .

So what happened , though ? Now , this episode was a trip , mother , may I .

Speaker 1

Yeah , basically the tight .

Speaker 3

About the employer the month episode .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Hold on , hold on . This is the thing about mother may I . Okay , mother , the mother may I episode to me was the teen titans version of the pie episode . With the eye crest from kentacomb they kiss next door .

Speaker 1

Oh , oh . It's like the the look on their faces when they find out that y'all eating eye crust in the apple crumble I like Number two just kept eating .

Speaker 2

He says it's delicious .

Speaker 1

Man , we do got no , chili did not care .

Speaker 2

But no , for real , though .

Speaker 1

This is what this episode fully reminded me of no , no , no , no , no , listen , listen , remember that one feature on episode where they went to um the slurring factory and , even though it's fried , no , what's in slur ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , my boss party all night . So much .

Speaker 1

So , yeah , essentially you have mother , may I uh , she was summing through this enchanted by Excuse me , enchanted pie delivered to the tower , and she induced his mind control over the titans , mentally regressing them into children . Um , obedient , sweet children that look like regard her as a mother .

And when star fire , as the dental , gets knocked out of the mind control during a mission against the high five , she realized the truth behind mother . May I intend to bring to her fellow teen titans back to teenage maturity .

So , yeah , star fire was essentially the MVP for this episode and , like I said before , even though star fire is the only one who didn't have a whole Season dedicated to her , to be fair , she had a lot of episodes throughout the series . True , she had a lot of moment to shine , so We'll give her that .

So , um , anything else y'all want to add on to this episode ?

Speaker 3

No , this one was just . I hate that episode .

Speaker 2

This episode was trippy as hell . I was like this one was one of the writers was awesome , smoke Shit when they wrote this episode .

Speaker 1

I mean no , no , let's think back to what we said on in the season one part , to where it was like okay , season one , we got to be a little experimental .

It's like the first time we're undoing something like this , so we , then you , make a great impression and as soon as they like you , I was like , okay , let's unload the rest of the bullshit that we put on there . Let's get a little experimental on .

Speaker 2

It was Literally the follow-up to like this goofy as episode . We're probably one of the scariest episodes to date to me . On to this one , this episode Now we enter the three part finale . Unlike all the previous seasons when we had a two part finale , this was a three part finale where shit is getting real .

But part one scared the fuck out of me , because this is one of those ones that is like For people who have had , or have ever had , any type of suicidal thoughts . This is a very real thing and this is one of the scariest things and , unfortunately , bringing back me , arresting peace to Jason David Frank .

This is exactly Um something that he has done , same as Robin Williams , um , arresting peace to him as well , too . Both of them have done this exact same thing that Raven did for this episode , where she knows the end is coming in like . It's this foreshadowing for multiple different things .

It is specific about the show itself , but foreshadowing for multiple different things . When , then , someone has accepted the fact that the end is here , that their end is coming , there is nothing that they can do about it .

They have finally reached all the different forms of depression , all the different levels of it , and have reached the final stage acceptance and they accept that nothing is going to change , nothing's going to make it better . The only solution is to end it all , and that's literally the episode being called .

The end Even more solidifies that and what , unfortunately , a lot of people have done . This is something that psychologists have majorly urged on the people .

If you are ever dealing with someone not dealing but if you ever have someone that constantly has always been reserved out and out of nowhere , they're just Trying to make it like the best day possible for you , want to take you places , want to provide and give you something . They're just randomly started talking and seeing more happy out of nowhere .

That is always , always A drive for concern .

Yeah because when someone has been reserved and they are randomly just deciding to be open out of just happiness , it's usually and in many , many cases it has is this They've accepted that the end is happening and there's nothing they can do , and they're wanting to make the final moments to be as good as possible Before they finally end it all .

Yeah , and it is a scary shit , because that's exactly what raven does in this whole episode .

Speaker 3

I only want to talk about this episode , no more . I'm getting sad . Let's go to the bar . I'm sorry , let's go to the bar .

Speaker 2

I'm sorry but it is . But it's a real episode and again the season Tackles on very important things into that and it has to be mentioned and it's one of those things that again there is help out there . If you really feel like ending it all , please don't . We love you . Thank you for listening to us . We care about you . Family cares about you .

There is somebody that does , please seek help

Symbolism of Depression and Inner Demons

. The end is not the end like . No , there is , there's always another option . Yeah , there's always an option , see , because there's a part two and a part three , exactly but obviously , yeah , it wasn't the end , and then , on top of that , we got another season afterwards , so literally , it's not the end . So in a whole movie after that too .

So come on , but no for real . But this is a real touching episode and the fact that it was a being , it's a great symbolism that addresses a real issue .

There are many people who will do it to try to make the last moments as happy as possible , not for them but for the other people , because they know that it's going to hurt them when they end it , and that's just where it becomes scary . But that is my thing on this episode . It's a very important thing that has to be mentioned .

Um , it touches base very personal on me . I have mentioned on our podcast before that I have had a moment , I've had multiple moments of suicidal thoughts of where I really thought about ending it and Luckily for me , like I've had , friends and family have been there for me , so I never did it .

But it is one of those real things into that that has to be talked about . You can make it through . There is better . It doesn't always feel like there will be , but there is better . Just don't give up . Don't give up and in this case , luckily Raven didn't , because now we have part two . But what do y'all guys thought some part one ?

Speaker 3

I know tux says he doesn't want to talk about so that's some real shit , though for real , because in that same manner , like In that same manner , yo , because like you're not the only one either . Like because I do also have . I have PTSD and severe depression as well , so with suicidal ideations at at points , but you know what I mean .

You just got to hunt the good stuff and you know what I mean . Just do what you can . It's good to have a good support system , so as long as you got your support system in place , usually that'll work . Now I'm not saying it's gonna always work . There'll be caveats to that , of course , but that's a good lesson to learn .

It's good to see it in the show , too , because it helps you too . It literally it helps millions of people around the world . So it's good to talk about always , to discuss it .

Speaker 2

Yeah , but yeah , jack Black , what you got .

Speaker 1

Um .

Speaker 2

Damn this hit . Hit that hard to you , man . I'm so sorry .

Speaker 1

It's , it's all good man , just you know , damn , just damn .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and the thing about it is I'm not even coming up this just just because and I like that actual writers did say that this episode is actually a major talk and talking point into that , those points of depression , so they have input , the belief that there is hope outside of doing this since we were kids , because there's been a lot of people that have not

been saved and they trying to save us , so like I think literally shows like this is one of those things that helped me Be able to like realize that there are other options .

You know , sometimes I've been raven , where I just wanted to just like accept it all but then , just like raven did , I also accepted my friends and decided there is a way to push through this . You know , it's just what it is Trygon is . You could call him your enter , you call he's . Literally is ravens interdemic .

It's unfortunately her abusive , horrible father as well , but it is literally her inner demon and it's that battles all the time and she battles him on a daily basis . She has to meditate on a daily basis to control herself . Her emotions lash out when she , like raven , is the full embodiment of depression , of severe depression and anxiety , literally in the comics .

In the comics and in this show , and it's one of those things is like she has to be able to control her emotions , because some people when they deal with depression , they can't control their emotions . So whenever they like , when they express emotion , it's never like simple , it's like zero to 100 , like all of a sudden you was like you was reserved .

Now you just 100% angry , like you just jumped out of this and it's like no , I was balling up these feelings all along , just never Let it out . I never got to 20% , never got 30% . It was just every time I was there I balled it in and that's what raven does all the time . We talked about this in previous episodes .

You know me , jet black , we talked about this in previous episodes and even in the swapped episode two when it became where raven first understood . You know , sometimes it's okay to let out some emotions .

You don't have to let it out when you're at 100 , let it out when you're at like 20 or 30 , you know like you can let it out early on Before it becomes a big , major blow-up , and that's one of the things how raven's powers is . Her blow-up of emotion is a literal blow-up , burst of her powers . It causes issues , it causes problems and so it's like that .

That's like raven's entire story , for this whole climactic thing is a symbolism for depression and anxiety and stuff and it's like it's some real shit . It's important to understand that you can keep pushing through and fight your inner demon , no matter how much it feels like your inner demon may be destroying the world around you .

That is destroying your friendship , it's destroying everything to you . But in real talk , if you believe in your support system , they are there to help you . Like in his one of those days and understanding and I'm probably jumping a little bit ahead onto this one but in part three , where Raven had to understand she's been focusing so much on her inner demons .

She forgot her inner angel . She forgot her mother side of a family , like , even though she says her chance as Rezmethion , xenthos is the champ that she learned from her mother as far as literally the mother's planet and understanding there , like them as a control to keep your inner demon under control .

She forgot what that really was , you know , until part three , where she understands the reason I'm saying this . The reason this incantation is the way it is is saying that I am better than my inner demon .

No matter how much I feel bad , no matter how much I'm constantly being beat down by my own negative thoughts , I am still better than my negative thoughts .

Speaker 3

I'm gonna tell y'all , like a young hero told me you two can become a hero . You hear me Exactly .

Speaker 2

Exactly . But okay , that's my two cents on the three part as like the biggest embodiment of these three parts , because it is important

Teen Titans and Trigon's Power Discussion

. Everybody wants a face in multiple different things , but part one focuses specifically on Raven trying to make everyone be happy Before shit hits the fan .

Speaker 1

Part two I just want to throw out there that I just kind of like how these villainous version of Starfire , cyborg and Beastboy were called nega starfire cyborg and beastboy respectively . And first of all , it's like , if you like , mispronounce that . It's like , okay , you're getting it right now .

Speaker 2

Especially considering that they're like black Wait wait , wait , wait , hold on real quick , real quick . We've seen this meme all the time . Crocker that one episode of a failure appearance . It's the nega chin .

Speaker 1

And the second thing is I like how this was a thing like five years ago and meanwhile we get Scott Pilgrim versus the world where there's nega sky .

Speaker 2

Oh , dark link .

Speaker 1

Yeah , dark link . Oh , there you go .

Speaker 2

I just want to throw out some .

Speaker 3

Since y'all throwing that stuff , I want to throw out Tropic Thunder . You people .

Speaker 2

What do you mean you people ? Yeah , what do you mean you people ? Rdj sat under him .

Speaker 3

He invited to the cookout .

Speaker 2

I don't know , bruh . I still it's still pretty questionable why it is they had to do him versus . There's a lot of stuff into that . This is a whole story .

Speaker 3

He made a good black person ? I don't know .

Speaker 1

No , I feel like that was the whole point of it , like you know , because it does happen in real life , where you have these castings and his role in the film is like that's literally the point of it .

Speaker 2

I got you , yeah , but yeah , I know the , definitely the . So your Robin starfire , cyborg beast boy find that try gun is turned all life to stone and it's just like that . That was one of the scariest moments into that , like I , this is where you had Dr Stone vibes the anime Dr Stone vibes before Dr Stone vibes , because understanding .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Some of these people were probably still conscious and some of these people were crushed , so everything didn't just go back to normal people who died .

Speaker 3

I think they still died . That's one billion percent fat .

Speaker 1

I want to say yeah , but with the way Raven kind of reset , you know , kind of like reset everything , I think they had theories to where not only did everybody , okay , everything's back to normal and it was pretty much everything back to normal before try gun took over the world but there was also a theory based on when they went back in to that cavern that

they thought , ok , what Raven did also release Tara from her being turned to stone . So they were like , ok , let's see Tara's back to you and she was gone , but there was no explanation to how he got free from the stone .

Speaker 2

So it's like one of those things , but whatever , I mean , but that kind of happened before this one , so I can't really feel it when going to that one .

Speaker 1

I know , but that's what I'm saying . There was rumors that there was some fan theory . That's what I'm saying , though . Some people thought that that's what happened .

Speaker 2

Hey guys . Yeah , the fan theories were lined up chronologically .

Speaker 3

I'm a little bit confused .

Speaker 2

We've already learned that we're not chronologically .

Speaker 3

I'm a little bit confused . Is we on part one , part two , part three we talking about ?

Speaker 2

all of them . We on part four .

Speaker 1

We're pretty much like .

Speaker 2

We're still . Honestly , it's kind of a generalization all together .

Speaker 3

So right now . They all match up . They all match up .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah . So it's still kind of all together , but I mean primarily I guess we would say primarily part two , because part three is like when they finally fight Trigon and like OK so really part three also , I don't know for real .

Part three is already getting interesting because , like we have this point where , like Trigon betrays Slay , which Slay has fulfilled his role as faithful servant , and Trigon promised and Trigon like pretty much essentially promised to restore Slay back to life again . This is true self .

And then we've come to find out that because we find a Slay , that's actually a zombie and that's pretty yeah , oh .

Speaker 3

When Slay got his mask knocked off I was like what the fuck ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , I want to say , I want to say that Slay kind of gave me Fucking ghost writer vibe . Oh yeah , with fire and all that yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , definitely . So , yeah it's . It was definitely like straight up , like y'all got beat by a zombie at that too . This nigga's arm and neck was falling off while he was fighting you . Also , he can't hit you with no muscle . It was straight up bald .

Speaker 3

And I mean , I was like damn bro .

Speaker 1

I mean to be fair . I'm not even surprised anymore , ever since I saw that one anime called Is this A Zombie ? The way , even though the main character is a zombie , that's a very overpowered zombie .

Speaker 2

True , true , this was very overpowered , zombie , yeah , yeah . And so , but yeah and then , yeah , raven wanted to lose because Trigon , his power , derives from Raven . So , literally , because of the fact that he was sealed away , the only way he can come back is use is through Raven's power , and that's the only way that happens .

In fact , I will say I don't want to like , I'm not going to spoil it , but that becomes a major plot point and I've already said this before I absolutely hate Teen Titans go , absolutely hate it , but the Teen Titans go first of all . Oh , oh , oh .

Speaker 3

We're not going to stand . The Beast Boy got the good song , okay , okay , okay .

Speaker 2

And look , there's some aspects Teen Titans go .

Speaker 3

That's pretty funny so you don't like Beast Boy songs ?

Speaker 1

I mean that one song he tried to sing to Terrell . It was good at the first time , but then he just kept repeating it . I'm like , bro , like you're real funny . Okay , look the same , the good song , the only song , yeah .

Speaker 2

That like okay , look , no , there's multiple songs . There are multiple songs . Beast Boy is honestly funny as sh okay , like I said , there's some aspects I just don't like . Teen Titans go per se as itself . Plus , on top of that , like the most hated character in there is Robin .

Robin's never been my favorite character , but still at the same time , like bruh , like he's the butt of every single joke and it gets it feels overly played out a lot . Yeah .

Speaker 3

But there's no . We're talking about it Now . We're talking about this . I don't really like Batman .

Speaker 2

No no .

Speaker 3

I just want to put that out there . I just want to put that out there .

Speaker 2

You're not supposed to .

Speaker 3

No .

Speaker 1

He's great detective though .

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah , but you're not supposed to like him . You know what . You know who I do like in Teen Titans go yeah .

Speaker 1

You know who I do like in that show , starfire , especially when Starfire is about to take you . No , no , but hold on . I just liked how she had that one episode where she was like , okay , I'm going to be the villain for today , and she was being so cute about it up until it was like , oh , it's so cute .

She made like a cardboard fortress and I was like , no , don't underestimate Starfire .

Speaker 2

And there was an angry death trap . Yeah , my kid showed me that one . I was like I'm going to make the moon explode .

Speaker 1

I was like wait a minute , you're not going to do that . And then turns out she rigged the whole moon to explode . I was like , bro , do you not give a fuck about the Titans ?

Speaker 3

Hey yo , this thing got nothing to do with nothing , but I wanted to tell y'all . I told y'all before on the last podcast we did like I've been watching on Justice League so that I can watch your Justice .

Speaker 1

And I can't stand .

Speaker 3

Batman , bro , you always got a contingency plan for some shit .

Speaker 2

It's because it's Batman . Like if Batman don't have no contingency plan , it gets fucked up . That's just on some real shit . But anyway , hold on , hold on . But I've just noticed what Teen Titans Go vs Teen Titans .

That was being a major importance in the movie , like they pretty much announced it early on in the movie , like at the very beginning of the movie they announced it's going to be a major plot point , that it has to do with Raven's powers , but it's just pretty much that's kind of .

Something very important on for this episode too is that Trigon heavily relies on Raven's powers , like he relies it used to be relied on all of his children's powers , but the only children that he really has , that actually it has a power that intunes to him is Raven , because her demonic side , her inner demon , literally , is that fucking powerful .

It's the only thing that's powerful enough to fully embody him and all of his energy , and that's what makes Raven that much more deadly .

Speaker 1

Hold on , because , I mean , I know these two characters are completely different , but the way it sounds , I'm like is Raven essentially the total rookie of this series .

Speaker 2

Pretty much yes , pretty much yes .

Speaker 3

There are all the aspects to be a main character , just not a main character of the series I would even go so far as to bring forth a character that I know Professor Tuck absolutely hates . Oh no , please don't do it .

Speaker 2

Peter Quill .

Speaker 3

Where the fuck Peter Quill ? We want to add a whole movie . Fuck him .

Speaker 2

The guys in the galaxy volume , too , is from the same thing . This bitch , remember , got me paying for Raven , the only child that , the only child that this planet had .

That literally is like was pretty much the embodiment of him and the only person that actually would have been able to stand not so much stand up to him , but it's the only one that would have been a full embodiment of him . And he's like I can pass on my energy to someone finally , because , like he's , like all my other children were worthless .

Nobody else had it .

Speaker 3

Nobody else did anything but Peter . He should have gave it to somebody else .

Speaker 2

He couldn't , nobody else could handle it . Well , he should have kept that shit and went to the grave .

Speaker 1

Cool guys . Can I just say that I really like and respect how you just couldn't let us lie . It's like oh , you got took . Finally on the podcast , how do you feel about Peter Quill from that last joint I know you want to talk about ?

Speaker 3

it . I know you want to talk about it . You ain't so mad bro , I swear .

Speaker 1

I mean we got like five more minutes . We already done with the part three and all that shit . So I'm like you know , like how are you feeling about that joint , by the way ?

Speaker 2

Real quick , real quick . I just had because part three is important the final battle wanted

White Suit Raven and Therapy Importance

to be a little great . We finally get the true embodiment of white , of white suit Raven . It's one of those ones like white suit Raven is as badass as Black suit Superman , like on some real shit . Literally having like the ultimate embodiment of your true power , we get white suit Raven Actually hold on , I take that back .

Speaker 1

I want to say that in a way Raven is kind of like Todoroki , but also she kind of give me like mob psycho vibes now Because like okay , it's one thing to where it's like , yeah , it's , she got to keep her most in control , so she can't go like full 100 , but when she does , yeah , when she finally I never finished season one Like we finally had the

opportunity to let out your rage and you can let out in the best way possible .

Speaker 2

She let her rage out on her inner demon , on her father and , like on her main issue , the person who's the reason for all of the bad shit in her life is literally him . And so she was finally able to let out all of her anger , emotion , everything out and she like that was the therapy that she needed .

She needed to work his ass , and sometimes that's just kind of how it is , you know . That's why in some therapy they have the boxing gloves , the little like boxing moppers or something like that . No , bop them sockers . That's why it's the bop them sockers .

Speaker 1

Sock them boppers .

Speaker 2

A pillow fight , pillow fight . That's why it's important in the pool noodles . You know , sometimes you got to lay some smack down , but without actually interest .

Speaker 3

So should I watch mob psycho 100 . I watched the first six episodes , but I watched it at the time when new anime came out , so it got pushed to the side .

Speaker 1

Oh , dude , like you missed it , like you missed one of the best fights , past season episodes . It's like go back watch it . Mob psycho is this September , ladies , I'm gonna watch it .

Speaker 3

I'll watch it .

Speaker 2

But yeah , yeah , yeah , no mob psycho is worth it . Absolutely , absolutely , go watch that . She's right , absolutely , but yeah , okay . So yeah , that's all we got , but that's the only thing I want to mention . Like whites , I like her white outfit , but I like having her finally having that embodiment .

Like I've mentioned before , the end doesn't have to be the end . Sometimes , you know , seek help , get that therapy . A lot of times you may have to finally lash it out .

There's some people who've been , who've had their childhoods fucked up , and it might have been a relative , it might have been someone that they thought was a friend , it might have been someone that the family trusted all types of shit . You don't have to end it .

Sometimes you just get the therapy and get the help and you have to be able to learn to let , to be able to let that shit go . It's not easy to do . Letting go does not mean forget . There's no forgiveness , there's no like oh , forgive and forget .

No , you forgive , but you move on and you continue to learn and grow from the lessons that you learn from this situation , even if this mistake is not something that you caused . It can be somebody else that caused the mistake that unfortunately caused the trauma to you and it sucks . It is completely unfair .

At the same time , you owe it to yourself to keep pushing and keep moving . You owe that to yourself . Keep going , keep pushing . You got this and that's like the biggest thing for like this entire , like three part finale is keep pushing . But that's all that I got . That's my little ending point on to this one . I enjoyed this season .

This is one of the best seasons out there . I enjoy that fucking stranded episode . You know , like parents talk to your kids , bro , don't cancel shows . That brings up good questions , good questions , okay , like , for example , I'm putting this way I pray with my kids every single night . We pray every single night before we go to sleep . It's important , okay .

My son asked me a question tonight . That's very important , okay . My kids like watching Peppa Pig , and my kids actually asked my son , my oldest son asked me . He said daddy , he said why is it that we pray when we go to sleep , but Peppa Pig doesn't pray when she goes to sleep ?

And I'm like that's a great question , not one that I can answer at 8.15 at night , when your bedtime was at eight o'clock , but this is a great question to ask . Like you know , your kids have questions and it's important to educate them and let them know .

You know you don't have to let them know all the details of shit , but at the same time it's still important to explain and talk to them . And if you need help on how to talk to your kids , guess what the internet is there ? The internet has still got some bullshit , but there's some parts of the internet that is actually helpful .

How do I talk to my kids about religion ? How do I talk to my kids about love ?

Speaker 3

As for me , in my house .

Speaker 2

I'm just saying there's help out there , like you can look it up . You can figure some shit out . You know if I was most comfortable to you that fits you and then you can grow from there .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I got a book by Gary Chapman , it's the five love languages . But of course I got the five love languages for children too . So just spare my this five love language for children separate from five love languages .

Speaker 2

Exactly and honestly that same writer . He has reiterated this book in multiple different forms of fashion . Like every form of fashion , he's reiterated the business form of the five love languages for business aspects , for growing up aspects like not just for kids but also like teenagers and adolescents , and understand that your love language can change .

You can have a love language as a kid . It changes through your teenage years and as you have an adult it's very different . Like as a kid , I never really liked receiving shit . That was just me . Personally , I was a very weird kid . I never really liked receiving shit .

For me , my love language was just knowing that you appreciated what I gave you , or just appreciating the love that I got . As I got older , I liked receiving shit . I'm just putting it this way . I got a Nintendo Switch . I love playing video games .

You know , like someone wants to buy me , like my brother's bought me my Nintendo Switch for my birthday a couple of years ago , I appreciate that . Yeah , I play it on time .

Speaker 3

You know what's crazy . I got a Nintendo Switch two years ago for Christmas . I only played it one time I play .

Speaker 2

Super Smash Bros .

Speaker 3

That PlayStation 5 came out . Man , I don't know what to say .

Speaker 2

I ain't got money for a PS5 right now , so you know .

Speaker 3

I didn't even want to get it , bro , but Hogwarts Legacy only came out of PlayStation 5 first , so I had to enjoy it to my hey look look .

Speaker 1

Well , to be fair , getting a PS5 is easier than ever now . I understand if money is trapped , but it is easier than ever so it's like I'll be honest with you , I'm broke right now .

Speaker 2

I might not be broke by the time Kingdom Hearts 4 comes out .

Speaker 3

Everybody going to be broke when GTA 6 comes out . I know we going to cover it in there $150 for GTA 6 , but that's crazy . I'm going to buy it , but that's crazy .

Speaker 1

I mean a lot of PS5 games coming out , Spider-Man 2 .

Speaker 2

Spider-Man 2 , yeah , mortal Kombat 2 .

Speaker 3

It's about time for that nerdy news . But yeah , we can go get it .

Speaker 1

That will be . Yeah , it's almost on the end of the month , so we're going to get there . But yeah , let's go ahead and wrap it up , just as Adam .

Discussion on Upcoming Events and Self-Improvement

Speaker 2

Go ahead , I'll say I'm good , okay .

Speaker 3

Yeah , Jim Black , you got anything else coming up first ?

Speaker 1

As far as reviews , I'm playing on Doing Sailor Moon with Usagi Invader . Zim is this weekend . No , no , no , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 3

Oh snap , I'm going to sing the Doom song Doom , doom , doom doom , yeah yeah , invader Zim is this weekend .

Speaker 1

We got the Hunger Games on next Sunday , metal Gear with Joe , like I said , ben Tennyson , august , a whole bunch of other shit , but I'll let y'all know in just a moment . I'll give y'all full docking of everything . But to the legends , gentlemen listening , thank you for listening to us rant and ramble .

We are going to proceed with part five in just a moment . We can have it out by tomorrow because you know we're trying to put it out in parts . So we are going to work on part five . And , with that being said , just to add on to what Koki Katsu was saying , yeah , parents have to talk , don't let the TV be the only pair in the house .

And also the racism , like the race in the episode is like a yo's , like sometimes you have that talk to racism is not okay .

Um , it was something like , uh , yeah , I'm sorry , I'm sorry , but it was like I'm kind of again , I'm kind of praying for it today , I'm sorry , but uh , oh , yeah , one more thing Sometimes with our circumstances , how we grow up , it may not be all our fault , but , like what Koki Katsu said , that , uh , we do owe it to ourselves .

We do have that responsibility to do better for ourselves . So , with that being said , it's like , yeah , just do the work , don't take shortcuts . Do the work and you probably have results , like you just keep pushing forward . It's like what that one quote said by Winston Churchill uh , success is not final , failure , it's not fatal .

Is the courage to continue that counts ? Yeah , so yeah , with that being said , that's all we got . Uh , we are zoning out and remember to stay nerdy , and great things are coming . Take it easy , ladies and gentlemen .

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