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#1924 Doing Better Than You Feel - Harps & Tiff

Jun 25, 202537 minSeason 1Ep. 1924
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Sometimes you feel like physical, mental, and/or emotional crap but the situation, role, task, or job at hand requires you to step up, when you feel like lying down. This is a conversation about that. Enjoy.

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Speaker 1

I get atf welcome to Look. I don't know if you've heard of this. It's called the You Project. My name's Craig Harpy. You can call me, you know, Fatty Harp's Jumbo whatever you like. Just don't call me late for dinner. Hi.

Speaker 2

How are you rings a bell? You the you pro?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Look, you look been around for a while, you know, I'm my ship doesn't think I'm fucking amazing, amazing. Imagine we'll say even I don't say that, and the people definitely don't say that, so we know that's a crock of shit.

Speaker 2

They bloody do though. This is the thing they do.

Speaker 1

I talked myself up once and one of my best friends shot me down in a fucking blaze of glory. What a prick.

Speaker 2

You should punch them in the face.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was I going to say to you, we were just talking about and I wanted to talk about something else. But I don't know, Maybe we'll get there. But we're talking about how you know, sometimes you show you've got to show up. You've got to do a podcast, or you've got to do a presentation. I mean, in our lives anyway, not the but you've

got to do whatever it is that you do. Yeah, you know, and it might be you doing parenting, it might be you doing selling apples at the mark, doesn't matter.

But especially when it's kind of I guess communication based or interpersonal or people based, and you just like, you know, you're a five out of ten, but you don't want to look like you're five out of ten, or you don't want to saund and you want to you want to do a ten out of ten job, and you're kind of there, but you're just like, fuck, I'm not even feeling what I'm saying. You've had a bit of that.

Speaker 2

Had so much of that, so much harps.

Speaker 1

So you will tell Look, we're all here for you. What's going on? Now, We're all here, everybody. I just want you to lean in and you know, just put out your hands and come on, yeah, loving the Lord's wrong. We don't want to be right, so you just open up. You're in a save space, I.

Speaker 3

Think in pictures, right, So as you were saying that, everyone was leaning in with their arms out, ready to.

Speaker 2

Give me a big hug.

Speaker 3

But then all of a sudden, they all put their arms out in this whole evangelic cool thing going on.

Speaker 2

I was like, oh that changed, all right.

Speaker 1

Well you can just have the hug or you can have the prayer. So you've been all the well wishes or the positive vibes or whatever it is that works for you. So what's been going on? Like you were about to kind of downline, and I went, fuck it, let's just tell everyone, because I think it's the human experience, isn't it. It's like, yeah, so so go well.

Speaker 3

I feel like I talk about it all the time recently because all of our preambles have been oh, TIFFs, foremones, tifts, tired, so it's all, you know, like it's just a bit

of a continuation of that shocking sleep, shocking energy. And I said to you before, like I've had a few podcasts lately or meetings where I'm just you know, when you're sitting in the middle of it and you're like you are, oh, the any critic, Like, brain's not firing, not my usual self, I can't engage the same way, aren't thinking as fast And then just start observing that and criticizing myself in the middle of it and just being so embarrassed for myself, just like, oh, God, like,

what's wrong with you? Plan to pull the pin on the whole thing. You might have to move to blow Canber and get a job washing dishes somewhere.

Speaker 1

Wow, that's I mean, I don't know, but I would think there's a couple of steps between where you are and shout out to the Canberrans too. I mean, let me know.

Speaker 2

I'll send you my resume.

Speaker 1

I think you've just thrown canbra under the bus. I mean, I quite like. Camera just seems to be like the low rung on the ladder, the geographical ladder moved to camera. Shout out, shout out it is. It is an interesting thing though, when you have a job and everybody that has you know, a job or a role that they feel or whatever, and you you know you want to do the best at that, but you don't feel the best,

but you can't. It's like I say to my clients, my trainers, I should say, everyone pays the same amount for you, So whether or not if you're training with TIF at seven am or seven pm, you should get the same tiff because I'm not paying more or I'm paying So the challenge for you as the coach or the speaker or the trainer in this example, and the challenge for me was trying to have as much energy, focus, attention and quality of product at seven pm when I

got to the gym at five am. And so now we're fourteen hours in because they don't I can't go, oh, look, I'm really tired. It's been a big day. You're my thirteenth appointment, so you know it'll probably be shit, but you understand because I'm tired. Well, no, you know that's got nothing to do with them and everything to do with you. And I used to talk about this idea. This could become the title or not. So there's two

terms for it. One is your performance threshold. And your performance threshold means how much of a certain thing can you do at the level that you want to do it before you need a break or a rest or, you know. So that could be training clients, that could be podcasts you might know. I mean, of course there are other variables. But you can do three podcasts in a morning and they all be pretty good because you've got half an hour an hour between each. But by

lunchtime you've done three, they're good. But you probably can't do six good ones, right because it's just it's mental overload or physical overload, and you get angry and with

nobody he fucking wants that. That's terrifying. And the other term I used to use for it, other than performance threshold as shit threshold, and it's the same thing, but it just means how many whatevers can you do, how many hours, how many sessions, how many phone calls, how many lawns can you mow, whatever it is that you

do before it turns to shit. And I used to say to my trainers, figure out what that number is, and then don't do more than that number, because people don't deserve that people deserve if everyone's paying a premium price, and of course we're human and all of that, but as much as humanly possible, they need to get the same level of quality each time.

Speaker 3

Well, otherways had a low number in terms of clients, physical clients for that reason because I'm very like I'm very animated and very energetic, and I know that's what I bring to the session. They're not there for me to look at a clipboard and read ex is out in monotone.

Speaker 1

Oh, don't start me. Don't start me on fucking generic personal trainers who don't actually prescribe exercise. You people, you know who you are. You train all your clients the same way. It's fucking so unprofessional, it's so inappropriate, it's so dangerous, it's so lazy. Stop fucking doing it. It just drives me nuts. You're being told, ah, fuck you if you do that, you're not a personal trainer. It's

well you are, but you're a bad one. Like your job is literally to prescribe people individual programs, exercises, experiences based on a myriad of variables. And if you like, I won't. I don't want to throw anyone under the bus. But even lately, I've seen people who would come to

the gym, They'll be trained by a trainer. Then the next person and who's nothing like the previous person, essentially does the same workout, and then I'll see them another day, and then there's like a complete another person doing essentially the same workout. I'm like, this is not personalized prescription. This is a generic program that you're comfortable with. It's

like you go to the doctor. Ten people go to the doctor for ten different reasons, and she gives them all the same drug because she can't be fucked you're all getting the blue pill. You're all getting predness alone. What but I've got a headache. Oh yeah, but my dick's falling off. Yeah but I've got heck and whatever. It's like, No, you're all getting this. It's ridiculous, But

that happens, you go go see it fucking annoying. I feel like there's about ninety eight percent of our listeners gone, well, this is completely irrelevant to me. You know, it's you can apply that idea. Yeah, there's two percent going, oh fuck, that's me. Well, I mean the idea of personal training is that it's not the same as you know, it's you're not doing the same thing as everyone. Ergo personal, ergo the name. It's in the name. Otherwise it'd be called generic training by Brian.

Speaker 2

One on one generic training, boom, Yeah, one.

Speaker 1

On one generic training. You're all getting the same workout. Yeah, but I'm here for flexibility. Why am I bench pressing? Shut the fuck up? Yeah, I'm here to become a powerlifter. Why am I dancing? Oh? Just and three two one step? You know it's like ah, anyway, steps down off high horse. But so how do you manage that? Like when you're not having a good day, or were your energies three or a four? Or your mindset's a three or four? Are you're frustrated or because how do you do you

just soldier on? Or do you have a hack where you can get yourself kind of.

Speaker 3

Back Because I'm I don't have a lot of back to bout clients like they, you know, I normally have two or three at a time and then that I'm done, so I don't overload myself, so I can normally get through.

Speaker 2

And training is different.

Speaker 3

When I'm podcasting and I'm sitting down, there's I'm.

Speaker 2

Not playing a role.

Speaker 3

I'm not playing the trainer that's there to kick your ass and teach your stuff and lift the mood and energy. I'm I don't know that's not there, so I'd struggle more. And it's cognitive, you know. It's that It's that not being sharp, not getting a bit distracted in my head, being just a bit fairy, bloody fairy, and then noticing that and criticizing it. That's where I struggle the most. So it's in the in the podcast more than the training.

It's very rare that I that I am The only times I will struggle on personal training clients is if they're in the afternoon and I'm and I'm really run down, and I've only got two sessions that I run in an afternoon for a group and they are super fun. They normally just lift me up anyway, So I'm like, thank God for that.

Speaker 2

But yeah, it's I don't know, it's bloody tough.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, I mean it's it's it's all of us, you know, And it's I think you just and of course people understand, like if you feel terrible, you can tell people, but you can't you know them down well, you want that to be the exception, not the rule. It's like, I would rather not see someone than bring my bad day to them, do you know what I mean. I'm like, I don't want to inflict me on you at the moment, because it ate your job to pick

me up. Now, I'm talking about in a professional capacity here, I'm not talking about friendship. Yeah, you know. And the the amount of just because I've done so much right and even though it's a very small percentage, maybe one or two percent of the time, but because I've done so many sessions and talks, still ends up being quite a number of sessions where like I remember, I've told

this once, I think on the show. But one hundred and fifty years ago, when I had a girlfriend when I wasn't old and weird and hermity, Me and the aforementioned girlfriend had been having all night conversation about some of the challenges, right, and it was just that's not me. I've only ever done that once in my life, and it was that night right where it was just it was going around in circles and anyway. It wasn't a very it wasn't to but it wasn't a great it

was anyway. So I literally had about maybe thirty minutes sleep, and then I had fifteen appointments. I had six am to nine pm, back to back one hour sessions or maybe fourteen or thirty. And this is back in the day when I was young. I used to do. I was like a weapon, Like I could do lots and lots and lots, and there would be you know, because I owned my own business, I would sometimes which it

seems inappropriate, but in the context it was fine. I'd eat my lunch while I was training someone, but it'd be you know, like i'd have a protein bar or a little bit of and it'd always be with someone that I knew well and they're fine with it, and i'd do a workout with a clientel. But I remember just I didn't even want to turn up for the first person, like, I was emotionally drained, I was exhausted, I was sad, I was anxio. I was the opposite of what you need to be to do that job well.

And I just remember thinking, the last thing I want to do is to be an inspiration to anyone. I just want to fucking cuddle. I just want to I just want to lie in front of the fire, like you know. And and I guess I could have canceled everyone, but it was my business and it was new and I was yeah, but that's you know, I mean, in the context of no, I just got through it. But in the context of real world problems, I think I had one cancelation, so maybe I slept for thirty minutes.

But in the context of you know, somebody having cancer, or somebody being in a bloody war zone, or somebody not having clean drinking water, these are these are not problems at all. But you know, the reality is like for us as individuals, whatever it is, hard for you? Is hard for you? Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Yeah, this morning I woke up forty three, so I had a real turbulence sleep lately and went to sleep reasonable hour. Woke up at two forty three, wide awake, and I was.

Speaker 1

Like, ah, today was this today?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 3

And this has been happening a bit lately, and I was like, here we go a big day tomorrow. I've got clients early, got it up at that time, did not go back to sleep at all, and then and I just thought I'm gonna be rake. You know when you feel really awake and then six am comes, just before the alarm turns off, you just doze off and then you wake up and you feel like ass. I was waiting for that to happen. It didn't happen. But

I played music, positive music. I listened to some shit to get like I just I put so much effort into changing my state because I was like, okay, because this is because this is happening frequently. At the moment, this becomes a story real easy, and I can either drag my fucking bottom lip all the way to the gym and drag that story in. But like I put yeah and I've been good all day, still been it's good, not like not sharp, not good on cognitively, but.

Speaker 1

But emotionally you've been all right, Like you're not walking around SADDI mac sad stuff.

Speaker 3

Nah No, And weirdly haven't haven't crashed yet four you know, fourth thirty, We haven't.

Speaker 2

We haven't had a nap.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think it's I mean, you know, peaks and troughs, right, but it's it's trying to figure out in the middle of all of that too, which we're always talking about, figure out what's the best operating system for you, you know, knowing you know, like I guess a good idea for you tonight if you could would be to go to sleep at eight o'clock, if that was an opportunity or

a chance. You know, it's like I like I'm doing I'm up to my eyeballs at the moment in kind of the run home to what's called submission where you submit all your work for your PhD. So but there's still a lot of work to do. But I know that if I do it somewhere around eight am till midday or not that that's the totality of it, but for that particular cognitive task, which is not a fun task. I'm much better in the morning. So one of the mistakes that I've been making is, you know, doing other

shit and then starting my PhD at four. I'm like and going, I'll just do this between four and ten or whatever, and it just doesn't work. It does, but for other people it does. Like there are other people, as you know from pH three sixty, where like later in the day they come alive. But for fatty harps

like my brain. In fact, it's funny because for that kind of cognitive load, that kind of work, that kind of task where it is real intense focus and problem solving and trying to understand stuff, for me, it's earlier in the day. But there's things like this where it's not that kind of work, you know, it's not that kind of brain work where I'm just banging on with you and I'm quite present and I'm not saying this is the world's best podcast or the world's best episode.

But I find this easy, but I don't find the other stuff easy, you know. So I think it's figuring out your own timing with everything from training to sleep to you know, food to you know, cognitive performance.

Speaker 3

I have found it really hard finding that window of time in now that I'm doing a course and doing some study and some thinking and some creating, I'm finding that really difficult, especially with what's going on with a lack of sleep and everything. At the moment.

Speaker 2

I'm a bit like you.

Speaker 3

I think I'm good in the mornings.

Speaker 2

I simp this.

Speaker 3

So I got something popped up on my socials the other day about body doubling. Was on an ADHD page and I sent it to my mate and I said, this is a thing, and that just had these things about having a body double in the room, like just a person in the room.

Speaker 2

While you work, and I was thinking about it. I'm like, that's so me, Like I need.

Speaker 1

I don't understand. I don't understand. What do you mean having a person in the room, a body double.

Speaker 3

Just having a person there next to you and you're like, oh, we're doing the work, and then you do work together and then like it's like your focus.

Speaker 2

It's such a thing.

Speaker 1

Get oh, I don't get what do you mean a body double though? Are you Are you talking about an imaginary thing or an actual person?

Speaker 2

No, Like I mean just a person, a real person in the room with you, like you're in a classroom, or like you're in a group.

Speaker 1

Why is that called a body double?

Speaker 2

I just was on the Fuck Ups.

Speaker 1

Well, I'm curious. I've never heard the term. To me, it's something in a movie.

Speaker 2

I have to find the creator of the the reel now and send it to you so you can find Okay.

Speaker 1

So the point is you're saying, if you're doing something but somebody in the room, there's someone in the room with you doing a similar something or also working, you're more productive.

Speaker 3

Yeah right, Yeah, I think I've focus better if I think I'm doing things with someone. That's why I gets so in my head or so distracted with things. So I got we're doing this now?

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, so I similar to that, right, if I've got to do typ work or I've got a bunch of work coming up with conferences, corporate stuff and then public stuff. By the way, everyone, we're launching some public workshops soon. We're coming to everywhere except Canberra because Tip said it's no good. Then yeah, no, I actually don't know where we're going. I actually like Canberra and I've

done workshops there before. But if Melissa's got to do some you know, typ stuff corp stuff like events stuff, business stuff, and I've got to do stuff. Quite often, we'll just jump on zoom and we'll do we'll do a lot of it together where we're just working through something and I'm typing, she's typing. Her head's on the screen, My head's on her screen. I'm like, what do you think of this? Okay? So when should we launch that? She's like, have you written a copy for that? I'm like, no,

when do you need the copy by? I go, all right, well, what do we how much money are we going to spend on that? What do you think? Blah blah blah, you know, do you think we could go with this? Do you think okay, what do you think the price point is for that? Should we do an early bird off? Or do you think? You know all this stuff? And you know we're going to go to Perth alright, so do we want to like try and get two hundred bums on seats or five hundred bums on seats? What

do you think? And what venues do you think? And like just all of that and we get ten hours of work done in and out? What do you laugh at? So?

Speaker 2

I think we all got the point about ten minutes ago.

Speaker 1

Keep going, Oh, that's very rude. Too many examples.

Speaker 2

No, I got it, I've got it now. You just nailed it at the end. I'm with you.

Speaker 1

Shut up. I don't like you anymore. You know my friend, my friend. You can't be my friend anymore. That's it, everybody. Hey, I need a new friend. Just apply the project facebook page. You want to be my friend. If you want to replace Tiff, there's an opening. She's shit. She's a shit friend. Makes me feel bad just because she woke up at two forty three. She's decided to be a you know what, you know what? She's being one of them one of the words I can't say on this show.

Speaker 2

Apparently, Oh, dear, choke.

Speaker 1

On your chicken. I hape your choke on your chicken breast.

Speaker 2

I have a chicken breast tonight.

Speaker 3

Did you know?

Speaker 1

Clear? I hope you choke on it. I don't really. Everyone, don't send me an email. All right? Well, so are you saying I'm a little bit verbose? Are you reinforcing what sister Catherine said in grade four?

Speaker 2

Got there and nailed it, And you've got a body double. You and Melissa a body doubling to get your work done.

Speaker 1

I don't even understand the relationship between the concept and the term, but okay, I'll take it. Yeah, I think. But also, like to that point, there's a guy called Alex. Shout out to Alex. I'm going to say Alex, and so he can listen to himself on the podcast. Alex sits at the cafe every morning about fifteen feet from me. And Alex is an investor in the stock market. Like that's his job, is the stock market. Like I've got no idea. I wouldn't know a share from a bloody

desert boot from a banana, right, so I don't. But that's his and he's a genius at it, and I think he does very well at it. But he lives in the apartments right next to the cafe. But every morning when I get there at stupid o'clock, he's already there, and he sits there with his computer, sits there with

his phone, he's got earphones in and he's working. And he also often has this like spiral bound book or this little diary where he's writing with a pen in that he's working on his computer, and he'll be there before me and after me. So he's there for hours and then sometimes not often, I go back in the middle of the day to get a coffee and he's still there and I go, have you been here since six o'clock? He goes, nah, I went and worked out and I came back. So he literally lives thirty meters

from that table. But he's much more productive in the middle of Mayhem than sitting in his apartment by himself, like beautiful apartment. He's like, yeah, I need I need stimulus. I need stimuli around me. And it's funny. You would think that that would not be good for focus or attention or productivity or efficiency because there's so much shit going on, But like, I'm quite productive in the morning too, because I do a bit of work, then I say

low to someone, then they go. Then I do more work than someone else, and then yeah, it seems to be me sitting there completely engrossed in something for five hours. Typically ain't happening when I.

Speaker 3

Was walking sometime this week I can't remember, when I was going out for a walk and I was thinking about content and stuff that I had to plan and create, and I was listening to a podcast. And when I'm moving my legs and listening to a podcast. Part of my brain works fucking perfectly for thinking and creating and coming up with ideas and planning, And I'm like, how can that be happening when I'm doing all these other things?

And then I come and I sit the computer, and I'm like, right, all that amazing stuff and everything just shuts down. And I'll find it weird that I can listen to a conversation and then have another method of thought happening in my brain creating an idea at the same time.

Speaker 2

It's so weird to me.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but that's often the way I mean, you think about like developing your show, coming up with ideas and thoughts, stories, messages that are relevant but also interesting, and that is cognitive, but it's more creative, right, And I think, I mean, there's I think there's a bit of evidence to suggest that when we're moving we're more creative. And you know, yeah, you come back, you sit at your computer and it's like a creative desert. There's just nothing going on. I

need to move, you know. It's like I feel like I have which is probably not true, but I seem to have really good ideas in the shower and the amount of times I get out of the shower wet and then write something because I have a big whiteboard in my room because I'm a weirdo in my bedroom and I get out wet and I just write this thing on these ideas on the whiteboard before I forget it,

or before I forget that. It's like I might have two or three or four lines which are the start of a post, but if I don't get them out of my head and onto paper or onto a whiteboard or onto a computer screen, they vanish.

Speaker 2

See I've done that.

Speaker 3

I'll take notes when I'm out, and then i'll get back and still I'll look at.

Speaker 2

The notes and go, so, yeah, right, what was your big idea, mate? What's so profound?

Speaker 3

I'll think, Oh, that's really that's just interesting. I'm going to record a podcast on that when I get home. That's really interesting thought process. And then I have my little notes and I read them and I'm like, what's your point, cookie, it's a big idea here?

Speaker 1

Do you know what a trojan horse is?

Speaker 2

Something that gets on your computer when.

Speaker 1

You Okay, so no, not that not the virus. So the original idea and I should have looked this up before I so for all of the historians who were more have better recall than me. But so the idea

I can't even remember who it was. But you know, one one kind of war LORDI dude, he built basically this great, big, huge, as big as my house timber horse, which was beautiful and amazing and it was on wheels, and he bought it kind of as a he made it, and he built it to this ruler king whatever as a gift, as an offering to you know, and the king the other dude was like, oh great, I know

I'm mangling this everyone so o emami. But anyway, they opened the gates and they wieled in this big, beautiful present of this ginormous timber horse, which was majestic and all of that. But inside the timber horse were a bunch of his soldiers and warriors who came out, and that was how they got inside the walls of this

compound to then attack the people in there. Right. So that's called a trojan horse when you go in kind of under the guise of oh, look we're doing this nice thing or we're doing this thing, but really we're actually doing something else. Right, And I was thinking about

this idea of psychological trojan horses. Now this is how my mind works, right, I'm like, how do I share human behavior and psychology and you know, all the shit about theory of mind and metacognition and all these kind of dry, boring ideas in a kind of a psychological or cognitive or conversational trojan horse. And so you tell stories or you use humor and you think about like, really, for the most part, the you project is about you know, it's about how do we think better, do better, be better,

create better. It's about the human experience. It's about your mind, it's about your body, it's about your potential. It's about all of those things. But then how do we get to that, Like what's the between the intro and getting to that point where? And so often it's about like, you've told stories today, you woke up at two forty three.

I've told stories which you shut down like a motherfucker about how Melissa and I work, which apparently I talk too long and it was incredibly fucking boring and you should have put a time out signal in front. No thanks for that back in therapy for fatty harps. But anyway, but I mean, this is how we get to the point of, oh, how do we talk about these interesting things like performing under pressure, and how did we talk about like trying to work at an eight or a

nine out of ten when you feel like a three. Well, you tell stories, right, because this is part of the human experience is you're going to have days where you feel like shit, but the reality of the day is you've still got to show up, you know. So yeah, for me, that's that kind of conversational trojan horse where I don't stand on a stage and go all right, everybody,

I want to talk to you about your mind. You know, I just go, hey, put up your hand if you're an overthinker, and everyone goes, oh fuck, their hand goes up and they go me and I go, how's that working out for you? And they all laugh, and you know, I go, it's exhausting, isn't it. And then so we have fun and we have interaction, and I'm telling a story.

And then but I'm opening the door on this really important issue is the relationship between anxiety and fear and overthinking and self sabotage and all of these interesting things that you need to kind of kind of get in the trojan horse and surprise them, you know, by ah, look, I'm not just telling you a story or being funny. I'm teaching you something. But it's coming in a kind of a conversational trojan horse.

Speaker 3

I always leaned back on thinking about how like thinking about boxing for me so lately because of that inner voice that in a narrative beating the shit out of me in the middle of podcast, telling me I'm pretty shit,

and she'd just wrap it all up. And I think about the stories I tell and the times when I was sparring and doing the same thing and feeling like I was never getting better and I was shitty shit, and then being told by my coach it was the best session ever, and like the times that it just but boxing always hurt. It was always hard, and it wasn't overnight, and it was every day, and it was fucking hard work, and I loved it anyway, Like it

was hard work all of the time. And after remind myself of that when I'm doing what I do, that I chose to do, that I love to do, and I chose it because I love it, and you've got to do it every day and you get better and better but it hurts and you get punched in the face and in the middle of getting better and Betty, you tell yourself shitter and shitter at times.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, yeah, I mean choosing choosing to do the thing that most people wouldn't do. They wouldn't make that choice. And obviously we're not talking about reckless silly, but yeah, I mean, that's that's you know, I mean, as we say all the times, it's like consciously doing hard things, doing hard things by choice. Like it's all cliche, but it's you know, go where you grow. That's like the biggest cliche and self help, but it's kind of true,

Like what where do you build resilience? Well, not sitting on the couch, not not taking the easy option, not avoiding the decisions you know, you know, not by stuffing stuff into your body that's bad for your body, like you you're fucking killing yourself and sabotaging yourself, your own genetics, your own health, your own potential, you know, by not trying anything, by you know, by letting your fear control you, you know. And yes, it's all easier said than done.

And just me on a podcast, just saying shit doesn't mean anything, right, but when you actually go, look, I'm real scared, but I'm going to have a go great like that now you've conquered some fear and that now you've been courageous, and you might fuck up, you might fall down, you might win, you might learn something. It could be a disaster, it could be good, it could be somewhere in the middle. It could be a bit of both. But you're probably not going to die. You're

probably going to learn something. You're probably going to develop a better resilience and a bit of insight, and then you do better, Like when from the first time you put on gloves to the best moment of your life as a boxer was just like a long journey and you start off with no skill, no confidence, no awareness, no ring craft, no knowledge, no science, no fucking anything. But nobody's ever started boxing career with twelve fights under

their belt. Nobody's ever started nobody's ever got into the ring for the first time and been good. Yeah, like this is literally where you start. You start being bad, you start being inept, you start being unqualified, you start being unskilled, you start being scared. Like that's the starting points, but you know, we can't move to like for people who want mastery, well, fuck, mastery comes with miles and lots and lots, and you want to be a master

at something. You want to be better than not anyone else necessarily but maybe, but you want to be way better than your current level in whatever it is. Will then just keep working, Just keep working and stop looking for the magic pill you know, and go where you grow. I know it's cheesy, but all right, Well, I feel like you better have your chicken breast. I really hope

you don't choke. I feel super bad if you do so after you've consumed that, if you could send me a text say it's actually calm down, well, just make sure, really make sure you chew well tonight, could you?

Speaker 2

I we'll do.

Speaker 1

I feel like I feel like your mum and dad might be mad at me for a very long time if I prophetically kind of announce your demise via a chicken breast. What happened to Tiff? Well, you hear what Harp said. You put the on her? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah she was chewing but ended up there was a bone in there, and stop it. You'll be fine. You'll be fine. Maybe just have some McNuggets instead, just to be safe.

Speaker 2

I don't know what's worse.

Speaker 1

Al TIF, thank you, Thanks everyone,

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