WrestleMagic Team Interview with Former ECW Star Gary Wolfe

you know, my dad put me in this school. Then I went to a Greenway academy which was for bad kids, and some kids was picking on me there and I threw them down a flight of steps. I didn't care at that point, you know. So then my dad sent me a military academy. It was called the Hardgrave Military Academy in Chatham, Virginia. Bad school ran by all Vietnam vets. Tough, mean motherckers man. I mean, they beat it at me

every day. I mean it was rough, man, but it was good because it got me tough, you know what I mean. I was there from like nine years old to like probably fourteen fifteen. When it was time to go to high school. I went back to my regular high school and people didn't even recognize me because you know, I have had big arms and I was in shape, you know, because military school made it tough. You know, I was gonna be airborne Ranger Special Forces. So that

was my plan. You know. I had my own businesses on the boardwalk and like that. My Grandpap invented the first poker machine. And I don't know if you've been on the boardwalk where you shoot the water gun game and you go into the clown's mouth and it blows up the balloon. Well, my grandpa invented that really, so all the all them Carni games. You know, that's where I'm from, you know what I'm saying. Uh, it was.

It was very weird growing up because to hell, Vincent Price used to always be at my grandpa's house, which was very odd, you know what I mean, because he was a movie star. My grandpa had friends with everybody, you know, he was just that type of person. Yeah, but uh, definitely a quaranty. So I grew up as a quaranty. On the boardwalk. I would always have a skateboard in my hand period, you know what I mean.

If I wasn't a military school, I'd be surfing, boogie board and BMX bike and I always was doing some kind of sport, you know. And then eventually, then eventually bodybuilding got in my mind. So I started working out young, which was good because when I decided to become a wrestler, I already had a pretty good frame going, you know what I'm saying. So I was we were bigger than most tag teams, you know what I'm saying. That young.

That they're called tours, and you have only two hours a day of free time and you could do, you know, play football or you know, do whatever you want to do, but you got two hours. My two hours were staring at a wall getting water boarded, you know. For I had one hundred and sixty eight hours. Man, I broke the record, and I was like, you know, my second year there, when I got there, I said, I can't beat these guys. I got to join them, you know, I decided you know, let me just go with it.

And they broke me down and changed me. You know what I mean. I mean I was a sniper. I mean I hit a quarter one hundred yards away. Wow, in seventh in seventh grade, you know, so no bullet. I was ready. I was. I was. I wasn't even going to go to West Point like they had me set. When I graduated high school there, I go to West Point for four years. I told them, no, I'm not going to college because I'm going to end up going to a war. And you know, I walk on the

field as a lieutenant. You know what I'm saying right off the bat, But I'm not going to go there to college for four years while those guys are fighting, you know what I mean. And then pop up, I said, Dad, I don't need to go to college. You know, I was already. You guys taught me what to do. You know what I mean, that shoot people and get ahead. You know that that was it. So I said, I

don't want to go to college. I'd rather go into the service and get those four years in there, and I just get out four years sooner, you know what I'm saying. That's how I looked at it, and they have respected that, and they were cool with that, you know. But then once I seen, you know, I was going to be airborne ranger. You know, that's where they drop

you off on the opposite side, you know. So but my scene what they did to my uncle, and because he was in the military, and that's when I decided, you know, in ninth grade, tenth grade, I want to go back to high school. I want to get out of there. That's what I did.

another guy named Waldough. He had passed away, but his wrestling name was cry Baby Waldough. Big guy, like four or five hundred pound guy. It was huge. So they asked us, you know, yo, do you want to do security? And we were like, yeah, you know, that's cool. We don't buish Bulldog was going to be here. A lot of good big names were there, so we were like, hell yeah. So we snuck in the building Monday afternoon

before the show. It wasn't until Monday night. So we snuck in and we jumped in the ring man, and we didn't know what we were doing. We just you know, started hitting the ropes, taking bumps, and before you know it, that ring whooped our hands so bad, Like I couldn't go to the gym for two weeks, that's how sore my body was. I had no idea what I was doing. I had no idea how to take a bump, you

know what I mean. I remember Dick Whirl, he was sitting in the audience sitting in the crowd in the chairs. Nobody was in the building, just him. He was just sitting there watching us, you know. And then I sat next to him and went up and started talking to him. And he's like, who's that big blond guy. You know. I was Andy, of course, and I go, oh, that's my friend Andy. He goes he's huge. I said, yeah,

he's a bodybuilder. He goes, Man, he's going to be another haulk Hogan, that guy, I said, naw, I said, he the same for him. I said, he's going to Hollywood and you know he wants to acting like that, you know. And he was like okay, and then he just checked us out, and you know, I just remember the next day waking up being so sore, you know, and my partner Anthony was just like, yeah, he was sore too, but I was, you know, he's he kind of liked it. I was just like that, man, I

ain't doing that. It's just not you know what I mean. I don't know how to do it, you know. And then next thing, you know, I had like a Hamburger Chief Steak place on the beach between Mary's Peer and Hunts Peer. So I had a beach grill, and then I had some water ice carts on the boardwalk and on the one of the piers, so I'd open up every day. And I figured, let's go to the beach.

And we're in the beach about knee high water and we're practicing like soup lexes and like that, and we're doing it in the beach and you know, and about water up to you about knees, you know. So the water broke or fall and we didn't really get hurt.

And that's how we started learning how to do. And then right after summer it was winter time and when we went back home and come to find out, the Monster Factory was only forty five minutes from our house where we both lived in that town, that small town in Hamilton, New Jersey. So Anthony one day came up to me and said, yo, man, they have a pro wrestling school right there. Man, the real original nature boy, Buddy Rogers opened it. It's his school. Larry Sharp runs it,

Charlie Fulton trains with him. You know a lot of guys been in there, you know, and been out of there, and big names, you know. When I went there, Bam Bam Biggel, I was just leaving, you know, and the Godfather was still was just leaving to go to Japan, you know. So we got in there and he told me he signed up, and I said, well, give me like about thirty days to make a couple of hours. And I remember going talking to Larry and he goes, yeah, Anthony's been here a month, and he goes, what do

you want to join? I said yeah, and he goes and I said, at that time, it was three thousand dollars to join a wrestling school, a legit good wrestling school. And I told him, and I got five hundred I could put down and I'll make payments. And he said, absolutely, no problem. And that's how it started in nineteen eighty eight.

was great, you know. And we started off as baby faces there, you know, and the Nasty Boys weren't even there yet. And I remember, like I kept telling Robert, I kept telling the Paul Jones and George Scott. I was like, look, man, I said, let us can we do a heel promo? I said, you know, I like being baby faced, don't get me wrong, but you know, I just have a feeling we're better heels, you know. And he didn't believe me. So finally, after a couple

of weeks he finally got one of the tapings. He said, okay, just to shut you look up, you know, cut theffing promo and then I don't want to hear nothing else. And I said, okay, no problem. So we cut the promo and he got pitt his jawl hit the ground and he threw his notebook down and he goes after he put his hands in the air, and Paul Jones just looked at us and said, you guys are natural heels, you know what I mean, like natural born killers. Man. We were. We had it in us. That's how we are,

you know. We're Philly Jersey guys. You know, gangsters. Man. We don't give them you know, sorry, but but you know, you know, that's how we are, you know. And they were like, Okay, well the Nasty boys are coming in, and I guess they're going to be the babyfaces. I said, yes, they are, you know. I was like, cool, we turned the nasty boy's baby face. That's pretty impressive, I think, you know. But we were lucky, like you got to remember, we were We worked for Jerry Lawler and that was

six seven nights a week. We worked for Jeff Jarrett and his dad. You know, when Jarrett was a kid, you know what I mean, he's only I think he's my age, maybe a year younger or something like that. But I was on the road with him when he was in his twenties. Man, and his dad was our boss. You know. We would do five, six, at least six seven shows a week, you know, so we were lucky.

We were able to hit those territories, you know. And the last one was Paul Jones and George Scott in South Atlantic, which was good because we entered in the stable and they worked out because Vince, you know, he sent us there. You know, I remember Cowboy Bob Warton came down to the school. Always a lot of guys from WA would be there. Uh, and he was in the office talking to front of Larry. Now he left, said goodbye to us, and then Larry said, come on in the office, I want to talk to you guys.

Because we were already working for Vincent eight nine while we were going to school, we were working for WWS. But we would do all like Tri state area, like New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania. We would do all their shows, you know what I mean. And then we got in good because Grillham monsoon liked us, so we then we started doing overseas tours with that. So I'd be on a two week tour in Austria. You know, it's me.

It's the pit Bulls versus Jimmy Snook and Brutush the Barbara beefcake I mean, come on, you couldn't ask for anything better than that. I mean, that was cakewalk you know, easy, easy, and we just and us we looked at it as we're learning, you know, and that's the best way. Nikita, cole Off and magnum Ta. There's so many guys out there, Lex Luger, they didn't go to wrestling school. They learned

on the road, you know what I'm saying. So we did both, you know, and learning on the road, especially going in eighty eight, going to going to New Zealand against the British Bulldogs was a fantastic I mean, that's what got us over because those guys went back to work and everybody talks, you know, how was your tour? It was good man. We worked against you know, these guys and they were cool, and that's what happened, you know, because the first night wasn't It was a scary night,

you know what I mean. We were young kids all the way to the other side of the world going in front of fifty five thousand people against the British Bulldogs and they don't want to give us a finish. They're like, we'll call it out there, see out there. You know, that was a test.

fun going all over the world. I only don't give it if I work in the United States, I'll be honest with you. That's where we were at at one point, you know, you know, because and then when we were in South Atlantic when Japan came looking for us, you know, out of the blue, you know now was just from talk. That was from the malinkos coming in, the fantastics coming in, you know, and British bulldogs that you know got to work with us, and you know they talk. Everybody talks.

You know. We ended up wrestling the Wild Samoans and it was over from there because they would all talk, you know, because if they're doing an independent show. The booker back in them days would be like, who do you want to wrestle? And the Simons will go bring to Pimples and they're local and we would do it, you know, and it was perfect. You know, we ended up being really I was. Kevin Sullivan was like a father to me, man, you know what I'm saying. And

he opened so many doors. He introduced us to Don Morocco, King Curtis, you know, Jimmy Snook who ended up marrying my girls aunt right now before he passed away. You know what I'm saying. And you know, it's crazy because I never realized I'd be able to be a part of the business because back in the day, you know, I'd look at these guys. Even the first time I was in their locker room, I couldn't believe how big

men these guys were. You know what I'm saying. We were kids, man, these guys were men and they were big. I remember Ted DBIASI was, I mean, this guy's a big dude. He hit me so hard. I hit my pants okay in the ring, no bullshrub. He hit me right across the face with the clotheslines so hard like I said, Man, it was like because you know, when you got butterflies in your stomach and you're going in front of Yeah, I'd never been in front of thirty

something thousand people. You know what I'm saying. You know, you know when I first started, you know, our first match was against a Heart Foundation. You know what I mean? You know, we were kids, Thank goodness. Gorilla Monsoon was doing commentary with Vince McMahon, and Gorilla was tapping him on the leg like, look at these guys. They're only like twenty years old, nineteen years old. Looking, they're already built, you know. I mean, let's get him out and look,

let's get him on the road. Let's get him ready. That's what happened.

you know what I'm saying. And next thing, you know, man like she's just started happening, you know, you know, the American pit bulls versus the British Bulldogs. You know, we drew fifty five thousand people in New Zealand. You know, we filled the Olympic Stadium. It was amazing, you know what I mean working against them guys, and we did it in two weeks, which was awesome, you know what I mean. We learned. We went back again against the

Guerrero brothers. Okay, that's Eddie Guerrero's dad, Hondo and Mondo okay, and then Ray Mysterio's dad. You know, I went back again against the Bushwhackers, which were the sheep Herders because they're from New Zealand. As the sheep Herders, they were hardcore. It was crazy. So you know what was good about us is you know, I talked to Vince McMahon, you know, and I said, look, here's a contract from New Japan Pro Wrestling. Can you match his contract. If you match it,

I'm staying here. If you don't, I'm going to go to Japan. Okay. There's guys that are working for Vince McMahon right now that's never been to Japan, Okay, especially on their own. You know, they'll probably go with WWE, you know what I'm saying. But you know, I was going to Japan because they scouted as Tokyo. Joe scouted me as my partner and said, you guys are japan material. Man, Look at you. I want to see more sue plexes.

Because he came in. He would come and visit us in North Carolina, you know, but we were kept going to NWA. I kept going to the NWA shows anytime they were in Charlotte because I was trying to get a job with them. You know. I was into the Rick Flair, the Magnum, the Ora Anderson's and the Four Horsemen, and you know that was more grown up, you know, to me. When I would look at WWE, back then, it was all characters. It was like, you know, a comic book strip, you know what I'm saying. Even though

it was great, I mean, the work was easy. I mean, you barely. I mean I would have to make eye contact with the boss man just to make sure I knew he was hitting me. That's how late he was, you know, even akeem how big he was, he would drop an elbow on me. I disappeared. People would think I went through the ring. I barely felt him. I mean, you know, one man gang is an awesome guy. Man, he could work as apt these guys are. You know, I didn't realize what work working was until I went

to Vince McMahon and started working with them guys. You know, the Rougeau Brothers, and you know the powers of Pain. You know all them guys. You know, they were all there. We wrestled all of them and it was a great experience. You know. It helped us so much, and it got us respect from them, you know what I mean. Because we were young. I mean, they could have took advantage and beat this out of us. You know, we would have took it. We would have gave it back as

much as we could, but we don't. You know, when Devias hit me with a clothesline, I had to come in to me, you know what I mean, because he set up the spot. You know, he told me, he said, listen, I'm gonna send Virgil over to you. This was for TV, because Virgil is going to come in off for you one hundred bucks. You say, no, get outside the apron, get outside the ring. When I come over to you, I'm going to come and hit you. You can give me a shoulder tackle and then slingshot yourself in the ring,

give me a sunset flip. And I'm like, okay, no problem, yes sir. You know, we go out there, I do the spot. But I try to hold him down, man, I would I tried to hold him down on purpose. I don't know why. I don't know what I was thinking. Man, Honestly, I really don't know what I was thinking, because but I knew he was gonna nail me. He got up and he cut me off with a clothesline. Like I said, I show my pants. Man. I had to go before I had to go out there anyway, so I was

probably squeezing it might anyway, you know. So once he hit me with that clothesline, bro, I was just like fu. But he came in the back room and he was waiting for me to I could just see him because he kept going like this with his hand, you know, rubbing his jaw and opening his mouth. You know, he was waiting for me to break his balls, you know, dude. I walked up, shook his hands and think very much. You know. Of course I changed and already showered through

that shaway and came back in. You know, when I seen him, like I said, he was waiting for me to fin. I just said, thank you, sir, I appreciate it. Sorry, I was a little snug on the sunset. I said the receipt it was nice. It's all good, bro, you know what I mean? That was it, And Virgils like, give me that fie hundred hour build back. He took

the hundred dollar build back. And they both were like talking to each other as they were going away, and I heard Debios say, see that, now that guy's gonna last because he's not big, you know, because that's all they he was waiting for me to say, is yo, what's all being stiff? You know what I mean. I'm not gonna say that number one I had it coming to. I mean number two, I'm not gonna bet anything ever like that. We never did that because, believe me, I

potato people a lot. I'm snug, you know. I like d Russell.

and we had a great match with them. Guys. I remember Paul haym And pointing to Ray mystereo and Move in two and saying, you're wrestling these two guys. And I look at Paul Hayman and I said, they look like they're twelve and thirteen years old? Are you sure you who'd have wrote them here? He's like, Conan brought them here. He goes, they're lucha doors. I'm like, oh, oh, okay, so they wear masks and stuff so nobody will see their face. He's like, no, nobody will tell. Nobody's going

to know how old they are. So I'm just saying they look twelve years old, you know what I mean? Ray is tiny, you know, but we went out there and we were actually balls at a wall man for like thirty five forty minutes. I mean, Paul was actually kind of pissed and be be honest with you, He's like he gave them too much. I'm like, yeah, but it was fun. I mean they could really they really work great, you know what I mean. They fly all over the place. You know, you just got to catch them.

So that's what we were doing, you know, And I ended up becoming good friends with y. You know, it was cool.

a Tellnis gym it was called. It was like it was like a gold gym, like it was for just for Jim rats, you know what I mean, guys, I just want to get big, and that's all we would do. And I would, like I said, you know, I'd had my businesses on the boardwalk, so it was like a vacation and I work. I'd work all summer, but it was like a vacation and they I would I would

work out twice a day. It'd be like early, like before I would go to the beach, I'd work out, and then I would when I would get done bouncing at the club at two am, I'd go do another. I'd do a small body part before I'd go back to my place and go to sleep. So I was I wanted to be a bodybuilder. I mean, that's what I was getting myself ready for, you know at that point. And then like I said, and I found wrestling, and you know, there was there was I used to work

out with Johnny Jackson who's a pro. So, I mean I've been I've trained with pro bodybuilders in my day, many pro bodybuilders. The lifestyle I have eventually realizes if for me. So that's when I realized, you know, you know, let me try wrestling to see what happens, you know, and and ended up being good because we had good attitudes. You know what I'm saying. You gotta have you know, you don't have to like everybody, but you don't let them know you don't like them. You know what I'm saying.

It's like you know what I mean, It's like you gotta like it's our business is very very very political. You know what I'm saying. It's like you got to know how to navigate your way through, you know, and be cool with everybody. You know. Robert Fuller would introduce me to to Maniac Matt Bourne, and you know when I met him, I would meet I would meet Mark

Callous who's the Undertaker. I met him and said vicious together because you know, Robert Fuller training them guys, you know what I'm saying, and meeting them, you know, I became tight with the Undertaker at a young age, you know what I mean. He was cool with us, man, he liked us. He'd come up with good ideas, and I remember one time he's like, man, I want to bring you guys in and make these the mad dogs from hell. You know what I mean. You're in my yard,

you're my two dogs. You know what I'm saying. I'd come out with you in the chains. But he would mention it the Vince, and Vince would say no because Vince wouldn't come up with the idea. Because that's how Vince says, you know, getting his idea sometimes he you know, if it's his idea, you know, you got to make him think he came up with it. He'll do it.

Back then, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall are making nine hundred a piece a year. Because you got to realize, Ted Turner use that wrestling company has a write off just like ae w's Dylan, you know what I mean a w I mean, they're oil money and they own the Jaguars, you know, so all their loss is going to be the wrestling. You know, that's all a right off man. The old man gave it to the Tony Kahan and said, here, kid, get out of my hair,

go do something with your life. You like wrestling, so I bought your wrestling company, Now do something, So it's a.

so I'd be very honest them. I said, well, I suggest you put your thinking cap on. And they're not stupid people, they're smart marks. So if you would try to insult their you know, insult their intelligence by doing something stupid, they're going to tell you about it. You're gonna hear about it, and they'll never gonna let you forget about it. So don't mess up. And I always tell people that you know, and if you mess up, make sure you recover quickly and they'll forgive you.

they would Pritchard would come up to me, Bruce. You know, you gotta remember Bruce was working for Vince McMahon when he was eighteen years old, so he understood me and Anthony because we were young. You know. They would tell They would tell me and Anthony, you guys, you guys got fifteen minutes, you know what I mean, have a good match, you know. And when we get up to the curtain, he would look at us and be like, all right, four minutes, you know, and then we're looking

at each other, like four minutes. We talked about a match for fifteen How we got to cut it down to four minutes? And it's like, okay, go you know that's how That's how hard it was for us to learn. And that's the position. They what I said, Because TV is very important, we realized, you know, every minute counts. So it's you know, when Bruce Pritcher is sitting there looking at the monitors and he tells Bret Hart to go out there and cut a promo for five minutes

and come out. Brent's out there for fifteen minutes, and you know, Bruce Pritcher's pulling his hair out, you know what I mean, losing his mind because you're losing all that time, you know, and that's a lot of time. So you know, he could trust guys like Triple Ags. He could trust guys like Heartbreak Kid, you know what I mean, Sean Michaels, because you know they knew to keep to their times, you know what I'm saying. That's

how it was back in the day. You know, I'd go to shows back in the day and first match, I mean, they don't even want to see a clothesline, you know what I mean, A couple of arm drags, maybe a body slam, you know what I mean. That's about it, man, you know, save the rest of the killing for the main event. At Rick Flair, tell me that.

I'm doing an hour against uh Under Lagger. You know. They would tell me forty five minutes pit bull against Lagger, you know, and I'm like, holy, you know, thank God, I was in good shape, you know what I mean. I was. You know, I made sure I was in great shape before I even went to Japan, you know, because I was told ahead of time, you know, you better be able to do five hundred free squads and you know what I mean, you should better be ready to do an hour. You know what I mean is

what I was told. So me and my partner were in JAT when we first went to Japan, man, I mean, we were in shape like motherfucker. I mean, we looked like bodybuilders, but we were wrestling shape ready. Three week tour, first tour, it was rough. We were there with the Killer Bees, the Samoan SWAT team which was Yoka Zuna and Sambu, the Canadian Canadian guys who was Lafont and Doug Furnace, great tag team, Ben Ben wahb would be there with us. Jericho Owen Hart, Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrero,

Sad Boo. I mean that was the clique that we kind of hung with, me and my partner because we were all short guys five nine, five ten. You know, we weren't big guys. We were you know, short guys, but we do it. Just made up for it, you know, in our moves and whatever we did. You know, Steiners also would be there with us, you know Bam Bam, Invader Chung Lee who you know, Master Chono, Master Saito, Tiger Jet Singh's dad. Okay, I mean I got to work with these guys. You know, these guys were silver

medal gold medalists, silver medalists. You know, I hurt myself one night. I blew my hamstring. Man I remember, no, actually I blew my quad. My knee was blown. He was shot and masters it was a zuki, Yeah, the one that was in the Olympics and won a silver medal. He saw my knee and was like really pissed off.

He was just like, what happened? And I told him what happened, and he started he started hitting Tiger jet seing one of the referees Tiger, and he was like, why didn't you take him to the hospital, you know, And he's like, WHOA, I don't know, you know, He's like, take him the hospital, you know. So he told me to the hospital. They didn't did just gave me regular X rays. They didn't give me an MRI, so they

couldn't see what was really wrong with my knee. So to them, they're just like, oh, bad bruise, bad bruise. So I didn't care because I didn't want to get sent home, you know. I wanted to still stay. So I just kept icing it and icing and icing it until the swellen went down, and then I'd had the black Cat. He was called the black Cat. He was a tape master, Like he knew how he could tape, Like I tore a hamstring once and he would tape

my hamstring and I'd give me it. He would tape a hamstring to my body so I could still work. That's how amazing this guy was. So what I told him to do is I can't. I had dead leg. I couldn't raise my like sitting down. I could not raise my foot, okay, because my quad was completely torn off. So what I told him to do is tape it like a fin peg leg, you know what I mean, like a stiff leg. So that's what he did. Because we had to wrestle Haasei and Sasaki in the Tokyo

Dome in front of sixty five thousand people. And I wasn't gonna miss that, you know what I mean. Hurt or not hurt, I still wrestled. We lost, but we cut the ring off. We wrestled smart, and I still we still got the respect from the fans because I mean they would come up to us and they said, look, we understand you lost, but you had a good fight and you didn't back down. You still fall even though

you were hurt. I had one leg. I still would body slam them, you know, fall to the ground, roll, use my other leg, kick them out of the ring, you know, roll outside the ring. You know. You know I'm hobbling around, but I'm still picking them up and body slamming them on the concrete. I don't care. Then I would tag Anthony and throw him right back in. You know, we would just cut the ring off. I mean it was a good match, you know, we lost, but we still got the respect of the fans. They

liked us anyway, so they would. That's how it is in Japan. They respect you even though win, lose, or draw, as long as you don't act like a baby and you know what I'm saying and do something stupid where they make fun of you. If you're tough and you give it your all, and they see that because they sit there and watch you work, they don't clap unless you do something to impress them, you know what I mean.

Just silence, man, You can hear a pen drop, and so you do something where they all will stand up and clap for you. That's how it was when I was there. Man, it was very different than.

demolition Okay, yeah, I never worked dem militia. Yeah, I mean, I like I said, people don't realize how many guys, how many people we've been in the ring with. Man, it's you know, I can tell you that I can just go off. Roujo Brothers, Heart Foundation, British Bulldogs. You named the tag team we went against them? All Money, you know what I mean, dB Irs, you know what I mean, The Windham Brothers, the Malinkos, the Fantastics, the

Rock and Roll Express, Steiners, Lesion of Doom. You name the tag team we went against them.

in W, CW was bringing it back. I mean when they signed, when they were going to sign us, they were signing us for the December pay per view was going to be our first night out, and they were putting us against the Steiners and the Steiners were dropping the belts to the Pitbulls on Christmas Night pay per view. That's what they told us, and that's why we said, well, sign a three year deal, no problem, because I knew once we signed that three year deal, I knew we

would get another three year deal. I knew he would, so then we were going to retire and we were done, so unless Vince went to bring us back, like ninety eight, he called us up. They put us against the head Bangers. We had a pretty good match. I thought we had a great match, very easy. They were going to put Terry Reynolds as our manager and they were supposed to

bring us back, but then they never did. So that's when I moved to Melbourne, Australia, and I worked for Hardcore Championship Wrestling there and I was there for almost a year, and we were the tag team champs there. And the guys that were there were no slouches. The Bruce Brothers were there, the Samoans were there, the Canadian tag team was there, the city else who else was there? The Headhunters, I say the Headhunters. Headhunters. They had a good tag We had to get a really good tag

team division there. And they put the straps on us. Just like Puerto Rico. They put the straps on us. Man. We always, I don't care where we were, we got the straps, you know, especially down South. They threw the belts on us in South Atlantic. You know, we were in the stud stable with the with the tag belts, nasty boys chasing us all. They always wanted the heels to hold the belts and have the baby faces chase them.

That's how it was, old school style. So being a heeled, they would always throw the belts on us, you know, So it was cool. I had no problem with it.

don't remember, because that's how you messed up. We were not much. We partied. I mean, you got to remember when I was in the Vince McMahon's locker room in they ate the late eighties. They didn't even have a drug policy yet, they weren't even testing anybody yet. Okay, it was insanity. Man. When I walked in that locker room, I was like, whoa, you know. And then eventually and

all the other locker rooms it wasn't like that. And then next thing you know, I'm in the E. CW locker room, And what a different locker room that was. I mean, I mean I was in the Philly Click, so you know, we were like the city was me and my partner, City Bro. I ran all the security and all the night clubs there. So anytime we were in Philly and we went out afterwards, I would take everybody out with us, you know, and we'd get in

the clubs for free. We drank for free. I mean, we had everything handed to us, you know what I'm saying. That's why I remember, you know, Vince called us that in ninety eight and we went I mean Dwayne to Rod Johnson I remember Dwayne when he was a little kid. He was like ten years old or something, you know, or twelve years old, and I met him. Next thing I know, I see him in the locker room. He's a grown man now and he's like, come on, man,

Pitt Bulls, you're gonna take me out. You're gonna take me out, right, take me out, Philly, show me a good time, you know. And I look at Anthony, I'm like, do I'm not. We're not taking you out, man. All we gotta do is take you out, and you get in trouble. What's gonna happen? You know what I mean? Rocky Johnson's gonna be knocking on my door. Oh man, I ain't having that, you know what I mean. I don't want to get in trouble. You know. Then Heartbreak

kid would be like, you know, Seawan Michaels. You know, he's like, oh, Marty told me about you guys. You know you guys are partiers. Man, You're gonna take me out, take me out. I look at my partner and I'll be blunt. You know, why would I take Shawn Michaels out. So then the next day he tells everybody what we did, you know, just to show on us, you know, make us get in trouble, and Vince don't want to hire us, you know what I'm saying, So what do we do?

We were tight with Steve Austin, he's my boy. You would be at my house. He would come. Steve Austin would come hang out with me at my house before we would go to the E CW Arena because I was only about ten blocks away my house, So we would party at my place. Rick Rude Mango, anybody that went through ECW would always be at my house, in the pit Bulls house, and we you know, and that's that's how it was. I mean, we had a reputation. If you're in Philadelphia, get with the pit Bulls and

you're gonna have a good time. Hell yeah.

oven for about fifteen to twenty minutes. Take it out. It's like a chicken parm So you guys can eat your pizza cheat and still get your protein. So that's my secret recipe that I'm giving out to you guys. Awesome, great right before I put it before I put my cookbook out. But don't forget brothers. Also, just so you know, I am interested in wrestling the Billington Boys. Really, yeah, I do have a I just signed a new tag team partner. He's pit Bull three because pit Bull two

did pass away in two thousand and three. So I just signed finally a pit Bull three, and uh, we are interested in going against the Billington Boys, So step up, shut up getting the ring with the pit Bulls. I think we'll make history like we did with the Bulldogs. I think it would be a good thing. I love Dynamite. He was a really cool dude. I got along with him and Davy Boy very much. Also, I own the Women's Hall of Fame and I own the Tag Team

Hall of Fame. And we're gonna be inducting Soreya Page's mom, Julia. Is that her name her first name?

and I'm going to make that happen. I'm still doing signings. I'm still doing wrestling in the ring. Any promoters need to get in touch with me, they can go through you. You can contact me, brother, I have no problem with that.

and enough horse tonight for like two weeks. And I was like what. He's like, yeah, you ate horse. I was like, oh my god, I got sick and throw up man, because I felt like I was going to pug anyway. So they got me good on that, me and my partner.

The only sad thing is it would have been better if I had pastry around the side as well.