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Episode 91: The Butter Beans update?

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In this episode, DuDs and Jimbo discuss the recent announcement from Mojang that the Caves and Cliffs update will be split into two. The first will be 1.17, which will be released in summer without the new world height or cave generation (although a datapack will be available); this update will include the Goat, Axolotl and Glow Squid along with the new blocks, items and ores. The second update, which will be known as 1.18, is planned for release around the holiday season and will include all the new generation of caves and cliffs. Unfortunately, archaeology will not be included in either of these updates and will be released at a later date. Plus, we have snapshot, 21w15a, for Minecraft 1.17, that allows the Goat to ram anything that moves, including armor stands, among many other changes. Also, we have listener comments from High Hopes, Beanman6649 and DirtyBlonde655 and a very topical Mending Minecraft.


Caves & Cliffs Announcement: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/a-caves---cliffs-announcement

Minecraft 1.17 Snapshot 21w15a: https://minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-21w15a


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Transcript

Everyone welcome to weathering effect episode 91. Today's date is April 18, 20 21 and I am Duds or Duds versus none to the rest of your webs. And I'm Jimbo, you may know me as Jimbo slice, 23, we got some pretty big news today. Hmm, you're getting it today but before we do that, let's get into what we've done this week. You want to know what I'd done this week? Yeah would you do not own your

business? Now just past, I'm gonna giggling mood, it's Sunday afternoon whatever we do the Sunday afternoon recordings, I get giggly for some reason. It's weird actually I know exactly what it is is because I have a king-size re C cup. Oh, that'll do it sitting right next to me and that's for whenever we're done recording this, My little, like, treat for doing a good episode. Yay. And maybe some Milk Duds on the

side. I'll do, they were selling Milk Duds at the grocery store and I almost bought a box just to spite mr. Beast, that, that was a thing going around our Discord. If you guys are unfamiliar with that, should join our Discord. It's a fun place to hang out. It is, I found a bunch of Milk Duds in my kids Easter candy. Mmm. And I pretty much took them all. Hey, you go, they had plenty The other Guinea. But yeah, I loaded up on the Milk Duds this week.

I finished. My another tunnel not the nether Hub part that's coming next, I have the design for the another Hub. It's going to be a large cave. Okay. Which I'm like, why did I do that? Because it's basically just another Mountain. Yeah, and inside like I already don't want to do the other Mountain yet. The worst part is. So I spent stream. Working on one of the final Rose of the mountain and I was like I

got halfway through this road. That's I only have half this rope finished and then I can actually start building on the mountain. I was like, I'm not going to bed tonight, till I finish this row and then I didn't get on Minecraft the rest of the night. Mmm, I just got caught up doing so many other stuff like this weekend. I was in the garage all weekend between cleaning my car and detailing it and then I clean the garage and reorganize the shelving in there. I was like, Like on top of

housework this weekend. Yeah, once you get like a rhythm of a house work, it's hard to stop. Yeah it's just hard to get motivated sometimes but once you get going man, you feel like you know, one thing leads to another well, the worst part is so I have one of the biggest garages in the neighborhood and it's just a two-car garage and to say I have the biggest crush, you physically can't park a full-size pickup truck in it because the garage is too small.

Ah, that tells you about the size of Is in our neighborhood. Yeah but I have a Mustang it fits in that garage. The problem is if I get out of the driver side, I have to walk back behind the car and then back up around the car because I have to pull in all the way up against the wall. Yeah. Okay. I can picture. And the problem is my roommate. I have been stacking stuff up against the wall, near the door.

So to walk around his car, I have to side step in like Shuffle to get to the door and I was like I'm sick. And tired of doing that. Well, I went in there and I just clean the entire place. And now I can walk like a normal person to the door, for my car. Yeah, and I'm proud of it. That's what we do. We have a one-car garage but it's to get out of the garage and go inside is a longer walk than us. Just park it right out front. So I'm like we're too lazy to park in the garage.

Yeah. Now as I never have had a garage until two years ago. So every car I've owned and I have a Some nice cars and they've just all sat outside and they're constantly getting dirty in. The paint is getting ruined from Sun and stuff because I don't use car covers anymore. I used to for the longest time there's like I need to hurry up. Get my car, go get something won't let me spend 10 minutes taking this cover off the car before I can go anywhere and no. It's so when I got a garage, I

was like it's really small. I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do no, I found a way to store everything in a way. I could park the car in the garage because I have a Garage. Dang it. I'm doing it. Yeah, needless to say, my car is in the garage. We're all good didn't do much with Minecraft since my episode went out on Friday. So basically if you want to know everything I did this week episode came out.

I did a trophy wall played with the Mini-Game a little bit helped Karel out doing the north tunnel but yeah, Minecraft kind of has been put on the back burner last, two weeks for me and it's not getting burned out in the game per se. It's just I found The things that I really needed to focus on and I did that. Yeah. Sometimes you need to how about you, what have you done this week? I've done a good bit. Well, not too much Minecraft, a little bit of Minecraft but a

lot of editing. Yeah, I had my eye surgery at the beginning of the week and just kind of been taking it easy on the computer but too much recording, but I did do a little scene with Abdi where we'll save it for the show, but I edited the crap out of Of it, you know, just got a bunch of different angles, trying something different, and having a lot of fun with it so far. I think I'm actually 12 minutes into the episode from doing all that editing.

Nice. Yeah, so I should have it out by the end of this week, got one more project to do on the episode and that that will be about it had to clean up the egg hunt. I did that yesterday, you know, it's been a week today since or two weeks today from Easter, but every person, A prize except for one, there's one box left. So it's cool to have leftovers from the hunt just for like, memory, I guess. Yeah, I notice you.

You made a trophy room. That's something I like to build and put those in. Yeah, when you have this perfect spot above your storage room. Yeah. To do trophies and stuff. Yep. Ever since you mention that that's where I plan on putting it, obviously had mentioned that my trophy wall gives them the idea of he needs to do more things. That would cause us to get trophies. Yeah, I was just like, yeah, yes, that's a good point.

Never really thought about that. I'll besides Minecraft though, I did get an upgrade to my setup, I ended up purchasing the legs for my desk, that go from sitting to standing like motorized. Nice, think it was $200. You just put it pretty much, screw it to the bottom of your legs, or of your desk. Took the old ones off screwed it on Air and it works great. I always had back issues.

So now I could just stay and whenever sit whenever my even do it right now, I don't know if I'm feeling crazy enough. I might just stand up and talk. I don't want to hear it Motors going and already got connection issues. Yeah. You know what the great thing about playing on a controller is I can already just stand up. You can you could stand, I can't really take my Keyboard around my 40 dollar controller was way cheaper than one. Its Lakes. That's true, but you now you

gotta look down. Haha, I just take a step back. Yeah, I can't see that far. I like you. I like, I like my mother desktop it. No, no. The motorized desk for you to stand up are really cool. We've been talking about those at work because we have desks that are sitting on wooden blocks. And then we have like these stools Have to sit at so quite literally all day. I am hunched over for 10 hours, just in a hunched position and

it hurts our backs. And we we've all talked about just converting to straight-up standup desks to make it easier on us. Yes. Soon as that thing came in my wife laughed at me. She's like you're never going to use that. You're always sitting down. You're not going to stand up. I was like watch me. So every time she comes in a room, I make sure I stand up. It's like a running joke, like look-see. Saying and then my feet start to hurt and I just suffer because she's still in the room and I

have to prove a point. They have those padded mats. You can put underneath the desk stand. Yeah, it's what I need. I have a concrete floor underneath me. So in order to utilize this'll standing thing, I might want to softer ground to stand on. Yeah but still cool nonetheless if I got my slippers on its soft anyway. Yeah, I got my house slippers. They're comfy. Anyways, should we go ahead and move into the news because we have a decent amount of news.

We need to cover. Yeah big news this week so we're going to start off with the big announcement that came last week and that's this updates going to get split into two. We weren't sure how they were going to name the updates but it turns out they release that information this afternoon. We're finally head of the curve for once. Yeah. That's right. The summer release which Jimbo is going to go over what's involved in that and the holiday released are going to be 117 and

118 respectively. Kind of think that numbering stupid. Yeah, I would have been fine with like a 117 and then a 117 one. Yeah, because to me, I'm still going to view them as the same update, but if it helps Mojang, and their terminology and stuff, I mean, it's their game. They can do whatever they want. So, yeah, whichever but before we talk too much about it, I'm going to let you go over. What's going where the first update, right? Yeah, this is 117.

World height has been switched back to 116 levels, none of that deep deep dark as of right now. No noise caves and aquifers have been switched off Cave and Ravine Carver's have been turned to their old settings. Crack, Carver's are have been switched off or distribution has been returned to the 1.16 set up copper now, generates between the bottom of the world and height 192 being most common around height 96 tough.

Now generates In blobs between Heights 0 and 16 worlds, created and snapshot 21w, 05b, or any earlier version can. Now, once again, be open and worlds, created in any version between snapshots 21w, 6A and 21, W 14, a can no longer be opened now so you can see whether drawn the line at basically when it comes to mountains and caves there. Yeah, Tron why they're drawn the line at caves and cliffs.

They did say that all the blocks that we've been shown already are going to be in the 117 update. We don't have to wait for the naturally generating stuff for 118, which I think is really cool. I'm wondering how they're going to do that. There is also a data pack. You can download and put in your world file, that will give you the height generation. Mmm. So there's that.

Yeah, I was getting ready to have the best Bet of the Year again, with you on when the next update was going to come out and I was going to say, let me see, I had it marked on my little calendar thing. I was going to say, October 8 was when they were going to release this one for the second update. This was before I knew they were

splitting it, okay? So my bet would have been that 117 came out October 8 which to me just so happens to be in the middle of where I think they're going to release 17. 118. So it's like I think I was going to be kind of right again. But obviously they're splitting everything now so it doesn't matter. Yeah. One of the things they mentioned is they don't want they don't want to be rushed. Yeah. We don't want it to be rushed either. Yeah. And I'm a completely.

Okay, with how they're doing it one. See. This is the way they originally were telling us. They were going to do it. You remember years ago? We're like yeah, we're going to have a smaller update in the early parts of the year and then we'll have a much bigger. Or update towards the end of the year. And so we were going to get to updates a year. They said that and then they immediately just didn't do it. Mmm. They went back to doing one big update a year, right?

So it's like, no Mojang. We're okay with you releasing small little stuff whenever you feel they're comfortable and ready to be released. We don't have to wait for giant updates. It's nice. They put the snapshots out there for us to play with it. Yeah and see you know if they needed Is split it up.

Most of the issues I'm seeing, you know, with the, the new generation, the new why levels is the rendering, you know, how are they going to keep everything, a smooth playing performance with all the rendering. It's got to do gives them more time to figure it out. Let's not forget, they're bringing shaders and stuff and to yeah there was no mention where those are going to fall. Yeah. That wasn't really brought up. I haven't failing. That'll probably be the 118 more than the 18. Yeah.

But some of them seem to think that the shaders weren't going to be that big of a deal. So it may be. It will be 117. Yeah. Didn't hear about that? No. But do we want to talk about the snapshot that came out last week? Yeah. So I'm just kind of throwing everything together because it wasn't a huge snapshot. The announcement was more of the big thing. Yeah, 21w. 15. A goats will now Ram anything that moves including armor stands, which I think. So, Is.

Yeah, like that. Here's the thing, we had that with the zombie pig lens, remember, because you're using those, in your which Farm? Yeah. Pretty much a attack anymore. Yeah. So, is that the armrest and things kind of funny? I'm sure there will be a mini game based on goats in armor stands. Oh yeah. Now bone meal is going to give a crinkly crunchy sound. When used and more bone bone. Sounds bone. Sounds are awesome in the game. By the way, I love the bone.

Sounds me too. They've Add some blocks in the building blocks Tab and the creative menu, I didn't list which ones but I'm sure it'll be easy enough to find goats will avoid walking on powdered snow. That works creepers won't dare

mess with goats. So creepers are now scared of cats and goats yeah they say they're scared of them, it says they won't dare mess with it. So I have to assume that creepers would walk away or what they're saying is if a goat head butts a creeper it won't explode Maybe. Which might be a different thing. And I'm good with that because obviously, you don't want something, you can't control a destroying a build. Yeah. And if a goat spawns right next to a creeper and they both spawn together.

Yeah. That right? That's something you can't control recipe for disaster. Yeah. Kind of makes it sound like other mobs, besides the creeper mess with goats because it says, don't dare mess with goats, but I think you're right. I think it's just prevents them from exploding from when they get hit because we Ino, Mojang stance on there. They don't really like giving functionality to two different things when it's already in the game, such as creepers being

scared of cats. Mmm, now I'm not saying this isn't true. I didn't see anyone talk about goats running away from creepers. Mmm. So I'm assuming this is creepers art just aren't going to explode when a goat head butts them which yeah I'm good with that. Hmm. Yeah, I'm okay with that. The main menu background has been updated. I'm assuming this is to show the cave and cliffs update. All right. Can it really be called the cave and cliffs update?

Now if we're not getting any caves or cliffs in the update? Yeah, blocks and mobs update. The Deep y0 now because you're not getting the Deep y0 now, now, you don't even get 0, just get one. Yeah, the Deep one, what we need are a new boat or something, something caught goats and boats. I do, can we can we get like a boat's guys and boats. Well, I was thinking, well, we got raw, oars and immediately went oars and boars, but we already have pigs. We got pigs last update.

Yeah, in the hog lens, so that doesn't work either. Yeah, anyways, you guys, tell us what you think would be a great name for 117. Now, that is not going to be the caves and cliffs update. That's a good question. It needs a new name. Yeah, let's see. Tweet textures of raw or items. I did see that the new textures do look pretty good. I didn't hate the old textures. I just felt. They felt a little off. The new textures feel more General. Yeah. And just like other or

materials. You can now craft a compact version of the raw or to save inventory space. And this is where I want to go. Back to last week's, we had several comments talking about the saving inventory, space was meant for when you were digging in deep slate and then you were digging in regular Stone. We would obviously if it was so touched, you get two different or types the steak, Yup, two different inventory spaces, but then I go with.

Well, I'm still fortunate in these things now, so I'm still getting double the amount. I'm still using up inventory space. The fact that I can now craft this into a raw or block, I'm assuming you can. Uncraft it from said block version. Yeah, this makes more sense to save inventory space. So this is this to me is the bigger inventory, space saver, which I'm happy with. And they all look like beans which is hilarious. I've never really Notice that.

Yeah the the raw form block. That's definitely going to save inventory space. Yeah, the whole the whole idea of there being all these different ores that, you know, now that you can stack together. It was going to be brutal on the inventory, if not. Yeah, but I really like this change and I never noticed the beans texture. You have to look at it will different, dude. They look like beans, 100%. I don't know if the texture update is now, including the or Rock version.

But yeah, it looks like beans and it's funny because I've always called gold butter. Yeah, because a gold ingot. Looks like a butter stick does. So now we have butter beans. Oh, no. Yeah. They're butter beans because it's cold. Yeah, boy it's great. Other than inventory space, which this now makes sense. I just like the fact we're getting different blocks. I don't care. I think I know there's People who are not liking the new textures of these were all or stuff and I get it.

I was that way with glazed, terracotta command. I was just like, I'm not going to use this in the game. This is so ugly, but I still kind of do it with the / / and stuff, but the more I kind of just start winging stuff and just throwing blocks on walls. The more I'm finding even what I would consider an ugly block. Really can't look good in the right build. It's just not as versatile as other blocks. Yeah, yeah. Bring the beans on. Let me build with some beans.

I'll figure something out. All right, I plans for these beans. Yeah, I didn't know they were beans when I made plans for him but I do have plans for the the raw or gold Block in my design. So we could probably cover that in the next topic which is a question but about you know us updating, you know, when do you update? It should be relatively easy to guess. Yeah, it's or do we just want to go ahead and jump into Comments.

Yeah. Before we do that they did note that they're not going to do the archaea archaeology update. Yes. They're going to hold that for a future update. So as of right now, it doesn't look like it's going to be one. 17 or 18 is 18. Is the second part of the update. Yeah. Um, what are your feelings on that? I honestly don't mind, they didn't really get into it too deep for us to really capture what it was about. You know, I love the idea and

everything but Right? I didn't get enough of it to really, you know, say no, we need that. That's what I was saying, I don't mind the idea of it but I felt that there wasn't enough information coming across from me to going, I really want that. So when they said well we're not going to have archaeology one 17 or 18. I literally just went. Okay. Yeah. Pretty much all right.

Which stinks because I will admit I was looking forward to pots because I think that would have made a difference in the game. I really didn't care. Much about the shards to create your own story, telling pot. That's something I would have been after the shards just for

collection. Yeah. And see when we saw the shards are like, well don't worry about the way they look because they're going to look different when texture guys get their hands on it and stuff and I was like yeah but that's all I'm going off of is what they look like. Right. Everything else about this doesn't really stand out to me a little bit but yeah, this gives them more time.

To do more stuff with it that I'm 100% fine with that never once have I complained about, they need to hurry up with an update. It's you need more time. Take more time. Get it right. Take your time. That's how I am. Now, some people were complaining that it doesn't feel mine crafty, and that, I think that's one thing. I did want to look at to make it feel more Minecraft because it is a little bit out of the box. Yeah. The whole archaeology, you know, shaving down, blocks to find.

He's hidden shards. Like you said, they do want to make it feel a little more Minecraft E2. Yeah, I think what I would do so I understand the whole brush and shaving down the block thing. Like to me, that makes sense, obviously, because that's the way you do it in real life, but to make it feel more Minecraft e. What I would do is let the player use a shovel and click the shovel kind of like you would do to make the pass block. But if you do, It on an archaeology block.

It would do a doing animation and like The Shard or the treasure would pop out of the block and that block would disappear. Yeah, to me, that would feel a bit more Minecraft either. Because everyone when they saw that block being shaved out immediately went, I have dirt half. Slabs now. Yep. Half slab everything. Yeah. And that's not what they were trying to do. Was once you start shaving a block down that block has gone. Hmm, right. Kind of speculated it. Yeah.

Maybe doing the shovel. I know it doesn't make a ton of sense when compared to real archaeology but in Minecraft that might it might come across a little easier and better. Right? Plus how cool would it be if you're just making a random path and then all of a sudden you hit a block and then poop out. Comes a pottery Shard. Yeah via another way to find those sites. Yeah you be like oh this is an archaeologist site. I need to start setting dig Camp up and start getting my pots

ready? Ready. Yep. Set up camp. Yeah, we're not going to see that for a little while. I mean, I think they wanted to release that in this update because it's called the caves and cliffs. It would make sense to put it in this update. So yeah, pretty sure they're disappointed. They can't release it with this update but we know what their plans are with it. So when it does come out, we have an idea. Let's your comments.

Yes, we actually got three. We'll start with the one Jimbo was already hitting at this one's from High Hopes, my you all these comments. From our Discord. That's the best way to get touch with us and stuff. I hopes, right, curious, what you guys would like to do concerning the update split, continue the world you're in now and reset for the holidays or reset for the summer.

So basically reset for 117 or reset for 118, I'm pretty sure ripple effect is unanimous at least from what I've seen in the Discord so far. Jimbo what was your take? What would you rather do? Oh, I'm definitely going to wait for the full release that the end of the year. No reason to set up a world and then reset it up again. Yeah, our world generates just find it says, even with the

notes, we've read off. 116 levels are going to be in the new update so you won't have to worry about any of that. And if you update, you can always just get the new blocks and mobs. So you don't have to really change too much for the the first update. But the second one's going to be a game changer so might as well wait till then. Yeah that's the other thing. I see a lot of people going. Well I don't know if my words going to be compatible when I update to the caves and cliffs.

It's like guys Mojang would never make you in De world to upgrade to the next version. Yeah I don't know if there's ever been that done in the past but with the team that's in there now they won't let that happen. They're going to make sure it's compatible and that's probably one of the reasons that are having to split this update so they can work out the Kinks and allowing that to happen. But that's Another reason why I'm okay with the split.

Yeah, I have there's a lot of things on my base, where I noticed in this snapshot, or in this update. There's so many different blocks that I could use on my base, to make it better. I'm been complaining about using the Delta is that what what's that block you talking about Basalt Basalt? It's PSI called it Delta just now. Yeah, that Basalt would look so much better as the Deep slate blocks and now I could use Is

that buy one an hour already? Put the basalt and place so it would be a pain replacing all that. Yeah. But like I said, I want to use the gold or the raw gold or blocks. Yeah. There's just there's so many more possibilities to bring in the block sin mobs towards the end of our season to really polish our bases up a little

bit. I think I'm one of the few, that's really far ahead, and obviously, I was planning on, being done with my base by 117. So, I'm, at the point Now where I need to slow down because I still have almost an entire year left or I need to think of something more. Now, I'm not, I'm not crazy Lee putting out videos. I'm only on episode twenty seven, I released and we've been in this world for almost a year now, right? No, no. It couldn't be a year.

Yeah. July, I think, because June was the update and then July, we started this server. Yeah, so my plan is I'm going to continue on the pace. I'm on now. And when I finish my base, I'm either going to like dive headfirst into Community projects or I'm going to become a Hermit and just move far away, build a small starter home or something with some of the new blocks and live my life out with very little Redstone as possible and see how that goes. Yeah it's good.

You see I have a I do have a story line. I'm kind of working with huh. I need to throw into the episode. It's towards the end of the season. So it's good to know. They give us that heads-up on the separate updates so we can actually, like you said, you could take your time now. Yeah, we have an idea of when this is coming out. If you do the 117 you got you feel a little rushed. But with the 118 holiday timeline, you can actually take your time. It's nice.

Mmm. I got a lot to do to so much to do. Do you want to read the second comment? Sure, being man. Six six four. Nine asks, what do you think? The idea of changing the look of older armor specifically the chain mail and making it look more like Knights armor. I'll go and answer that and changing it to make it look more like Knights armor. I'm not so sure about that because I think the armor or iron armor.

I don't know why. It says, the term the iron armor would be more likely to represent traditional Knight's armor. Yeah, but I am for changing the way armor looks. I've always complained about the way. A armor looks my fact, I complained about it and stream on Saturday about how boots were just cubes on our feet. And I think it was obvious, I was chatting to about that. Like, there really isn't a great way to make Minecraft boot armor, differentiate other than

color. So, I would kind of, like, a way to figure that out, especially considering we just got all these new villagers, one of them's, an armored. It'd be cool to have a new way of making armor and tools and stuff. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how it would implement it, and obviously Mojang's on to bigger and better things.

So yeah, maybe when they do the combat update, it would kind of make sense to update armor a little bit, but until then, who knows what about you would you change? Old existing armor. I would definitely change old existing armor, I'm with you with, you know, any any armor head than Knight's armor. Look, it would be the iron armor. Yeah, just switch. Yeah, each armor up to look different. They all All, look the same besides the nether, right?

You have that it stands out. It's got a little more detail. Yeah. But like all the other ones, look, exactly the same. It'd be cool to just get different textures on those. I'd be okay with just that change in general. Even if you know, didn't color it, or make it look too different, just give it a different texture from all the other ones. For sure, that's pretty much all I do.

Yeah, I think you would have to start looking at some of the role playing games when it comes to armor, but then in your starting to make the I am a bit more complex than it needs to be because Minecraft kind of walks that fine line. Yeah. It's hard. I mean, obviously you have modded Minecraft that does all this but that's why it's monitored and not vanilla. Yeah, most things that come out, that's new, like, even the nether right? Armor. People are like, that's a little off.

It should look like the other armors because that feels to modded. But once it's implemented in the game, yeah, it starts to feel a little more Minecraft e. Yeah, I completely forgot that the net the right helmet does. Does not look like the other helmets at all the it's completely different. Yeah, I change armor up. I don't, I wouldn't know how to do it, but I would change it up.

Mmm. Finally, our last listener comment was from dirty blond 655, and they asked if you own Minecraft for one day, what would you do me? I would, I would start with a brand-new world and play survive. That's what I like to do. Just play some survival Minecraft or 24. If I had one whole day, And that's it. No more Minecraft. I'd stay on all day and play Survivor. I think they were more talking about. If you physically owned the company that makes Minecraft mmm.

Well, that's different that's very different. I read it different. I'm with you if I own Minecraft for day I jump in survival in place rival. Yeah. It's my favorite part. Yeah. See how far I can get mmm before I die. Probably not too far. Yeah. But now if you had the company, what would you do? What would I do? Oh man, I don't know. I obviously had messed something up if they let me own the company. Something would go, you know, stocks would go down.

It wouldn't be a good idea for me to own it. I don't know what I would do to be honest. I was thinking of a different question. Threw me off. Yeah honestly I wouldn't change a lot because I do think the people who are running the game right now are very capable. And very smart and no way more than I do. So I'd let them do their thing. But I would do an emphasis on Inventory management right now.

Yeah. I know they're in the cave and cliffs and stuff like that and there's their stuff looked really good but with it being split up into two inventory update. Yeah, that be. We need it. There's there's been a lot of great suggestions. I still stand by my suggestion of Of every Row in your inventory. Would be a hot bar. You could rotate through to me. That's the easiest inventory. Fix ya. See I wasn't thinking about changing something in the game

with this question. Yes. And I you you just want to play like I want to play Minecraft. I softly My Graph. Yeah. Yeah, I could. I could always, you know, say add stairs and slabs. Yeah, but realistically, I don't know if I would really Don't know, I know I'd fight for concrete stairs and slaps and those would be the only stairs and slabs. I would fight for.

I know there's a lot of people who are going twice for me and I'm no to me concrete, stairs, and slabs make sense because you can really have concrete stairs in real life. You can't have dirt stairs and slabs. Yeah, I'm with you there. Yeah I guess arguing it something I could do, I would do. Yeah, I don't know. I would not leave myself to any final decisions Yeah, that's where I'm at. You hate me, the company. I'll hand it to the guy right behind me, probably. All right.

Well, thank you guys for those comments. It's awesome. Like I said, those comments were as from our Discord and are discords. The only place you can talk to everyone who works on the show, easily, just take C-3PO as word for it. Hello interwebs. I'm C-3PO a member of the withering effect Discord, a great place to talk to fellow like-minded Minecrafters and to get to know the people from the show. Sometimes there are even puppy pictures, don't delay. Join the Discord today.

Link is in the show notes. Tolu Duds made me say that Thanks again for the Discord, add C-3PO, like I said, you guys can check us out on the Discord, it really is a good place to ask questions stuff. Literally, every time I write up the show, I throw something in Discord saying hey anyone have any listener comments this week and literally all three listener comments that came through ended up on the show.

Yeah, but speaking of the Discord is the only place where you can get involved in our mending Minecraft out. This week, we asked you to choose between three structures for us to discuss and improve. Your choices were dungeon, nether fortress and igloo and the winner of mending Minecraft. This week is The dungeon congratulations. Dungeon we have 33 votes for the dungeon 13 for the nether fortress, and 13 for the igloo. Lot of Threes. Yeah, man. But I kind of, I kind of figured

dungeons was going to win. We aren't seeing an update with the new cave release. So people were kind of in a tizzy. Yeah. Yeah. A few things on the dungeon dungeons. Also referred as Monster rooms in their Are structures that appear in the Overworld. That contains spawners, dungeons are small rooms made of cobblestone and mossy cobblestone Cobblestone and contain the spawners and up to two chests. I love me some mossy cobblestone you here.

Is that how it came out? Oh, that's came out almost responders in the dungeons contain the skeleton. Zombie spider / cave spider. We weren't too sure if that was a dungeon. I'm not too sure. Yeah. Even though it's in a mind. Shaft. I'd can still, I'd still consider it a dungeon. Yeah, it's just a mineshaft

dungeon. The spawner is always in the center of the dungeon room with chess located around the walls of the room with each room, varying from 7 to 11 blocks length, / width, and height of 6. If the Spawner in the dungeon is broken any tool or item? It will be destroyed forever. Try not to break this. It's cardinal sin. Yeah, can't do it. I have high, I've done that with the A spawners. I had a creeper blow up a skeleton spawner, right? Under my, which Farm could a double that.

Yeah. And proving a dungeon was a lot harder than it sounds. Everyone's like well they're such plain rooms. This should be really easy to upgrade and make better blink famous. Yeah you back to Minecraft and Mojang want the game to be a relative Blank Slate. So you can use your creativity to upgrade these. Things and we do that with spawner Grinders and everything like that. So, if you went into a dungeon in the grinder, was pre built for you. I mean, that's not fun.

Hmm. So how could I make dungeons interesting while still making them a blank slate and obviously different nowadays? And my first thought is instead of a quote-unquote monster room or a quotient rule dungeon, we now have dungeon caves so it's a new cave type. Okay, so that Adding some of the new decorations of the caves and stuff into this dungeon room, which means the terrain can very obviously. Now it's just a, it's a flat room, you know, exactly where it's going to be.

You can fire arrows in the dark and guarantee, you're going to hit something because a, how often we've seen the same shape structure of a dungeon, right? It's a box relatively easy, these cave types, with all these new caves and stuff. You might get a Concave at the dead end of a cave tunnel, you might get a dungeon cave that connects to another cave. So now it's a pass-through. So, not only do you have to worry about the monsters spawning from the spawner.

Now, you have the monsters that are behind the spawner coming from the other cave to attack you to worry about, I would like a new block and this area, it's kind of a lot to ask for, but Mossy Cobble, such a recognizable dungeon cave or in a dungeon. Dungeon block that when you hit one of those underground, you know, that's a dungeon.

So I would like some kind of Telltale block for the caves doesn't have to necessarily be Mossy Cobble even though that's kind of a good one to use its things out, it stands out and we're used to seeing that immediately thinking spawner. So that might be a good idea. I was toying with the ideas of having more types of spawners but no I think this Partners we have now are good. Everyone's gonna be a creeper spawner. No, that's Opie. And plus they're just going to blow up their own spot or

anyways. Yeah, most likely you're gonna go and you're going to try to deactivate it with torches and stuff and you're not going to pay attention and creepers going to spawn on it and and pal, it's gonna blow up, not fun. Yeah, odds are good. That happened odds are really good, aren't you? Could you might, you might get lucky once in a while but got like five percent chance that spawners going to survive. Yeah, especially if we're thinking about this. Jin cave idea have where I want.

Varying terrain. I want you fighting monsters in a cave. The best way I can put it into terms is in common Craft season 2. Freddy Bush boy built a mini game that requires you to travel down to this cave. And we had soap touch, spotters in and he set up spawners inside this cave. So as you were going deeper and deeper into those caves, you were fighting monsters left and right.

Yeah. Let's have some of that maybe have the chance to have more spawner spawn inside these dungeon areas because right now you're it's always like oh here's one spawner and you might get lucky that. There's a second dungeon near. Yeah that you can activate both of the same time. I'm saying what if we have two spotters on top of each other in the same cave? Yeah. More challenging. But worth the reward, right? That was my big dungeon fix. I didn't want to push it too far.

My other worry. What is that? If you put like it and glowberries around this area. Now, you have spawned a dungeon that automatically deactivated itself. So I didn't want that. I want these areas to stand out. So, like, moss, blocks Mossy Cobble Vines stuff like that. I want it to feel like a gloomy Lush caves. Okay. That makes sense. Now, what if these dungeons, you took the spawner out altogether. Like, there's no spawner. It's just like a natural. Ali spawned.

Hmm caves or dungeons that form you know small caves like you're talking about, not so much a box sets, they're pretty boxing now. You know, you walk into the room, you know, separated by a certain Stone like you've mentioned that really makes it stand out. Something that that says there's is a dungeon but there's no spawner. They just naturally spawn in that cave. Maybe there'd be some mechanic behind it to where you can measure out. So you're talking like a

bounding box. It's kind of like a witch hut, right? Exactly like a woodchip, except no Spawner in the middle of. Now, the only thing about that is you might have you might build a base and skeletons are spawned in midair, you know, right. That's the only thing that would have to be lit up in that area. Yeah, I got really excited for that until I realized there's not a way to permanently deactivate it, like there is now. Yeah, you can't deactivate.

That's the only thing that sits at Depart. Yeah, everyone jumps on top of people who break spawners, but if you're just casually wanting to build an area and you didn't want to build a grinder. Now this spawners in your way, you can just break it, get rid of it, it's your game. You can do what you want. Yeah.

If you had a bounding box to a cave type that just basically meant that area is off-limits to build and I can't tell you how many times I ran into a zombie spawner that I'm like, I'm not using this one. I have a Skelly spawner over there. This thing's just in the way. Break. Yeah. Sometimes they need broken and moved. Yeah, we can't really move them. Just removed, I guess. Yeah, really moved by. Yeah, I was just thinking I love the cave idea. Hear you walking into anything,

but a box. Yeah, anything but a box. Yeah, but I was just thinking, you know, the spawner altogether. I love the idea of the, which, at the, which idea is one of my favorites and like, the what is it? The ocean. Ruins. They have naturally generated. What are they drown that spot in there just once? But like, have something like that instead of a spawner. Yeah. Fragile Mark. Mentioned votes. Lime chunks and stuff. Yes, I'm chunk. Same difference.

Yeah, that mean that's been annoying for me all season because I built under why level 50. So, I've got slime constant spawning a base which means nothing, I build can be full block. Yeah, everything's a half, cyber stare. Now, if you redo the It's on a spawner. You can make it to where they don't just spawn in a dark spot because they don't need a block under them to spawn. It just needs to be dark. Maybe it needs a spawnable spot

instead of its spawning and are. Yeah, that's the only thing that you could change to make it work for you not having to have to break it, but just avoid it by their own carpet down. Well, now that fragile rocks, mentioned this in the live chat, I can't get out of my head. I would much rather have a slime spawner. ER, than a slime chunk. I get that. That's way less efficient, but we have Magma Cube spotters now. Yeah, so the lure is in place

for this. Now again there are probably a lot of people who will complain that it makes them less efficient but it's like, do you really need 12 double chests of slime like really real mango? Maybe I get the argument of. Well I only have two AFK this for an hour and then I'm done it's like yeah but If I had like the idea of Grinders and stuff and making a slime grinder, that's cool. Yeah, very different. Yeah. Usually, they just work on them owned.

Owned them owned on their own. Jesus like it. But word hard. I can't talk today. This is getting insane. I know work hard Jimbo words but I think that's kind of it. Do you have anything you want to add to it? No I mean there's there's a bunch of suggestions. In the Discord, most of them are, you know, changing the dungeon from like a small area to like a whole cave system, like a big No-No. Almost like a fortress type of deal. Oh, okay. Yeah. So taking my idea just like amplifying it.

Yeah. Making them huge. So we're, you know, there can be rooms with different multiple sponsors. There's there's something there but I felt like, you know that dungeon is supposed to be You know, tightly compact, you know, not so much square, but smaller area. We already have the nether fortress idea in the Overworld with the stronghold. So I don't see a point in doing it with dungeons. I could see adding spotters to the stronghold that would make sense. Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm sticking

with my dungeon cave idea. Yeah, like a smaller kind of cave. Yeah, I'm not blowing it up to massive. My sense I just want varying levels of train so you can't blindly look into this box and solve it. Yeah you need some actual thought process behind it. Mmm. Or maybe 11 dungeon has four separate rooms like every dungeon does and there's just you know that random chance that you could have one spawner, which is a good chance or for spawners to get your multiple spawners.

With just one dungeon that could be a Oop. So that was one thought I had. Now, it kind of goes with what some of the disk or members were talking about make it a little bit bigger. A little more spawners, which could make it a little little more challenging, but I like it. I don't know. I kind of like it. The smaller compact size. Yeah, I do too. Spiders are great early game for Grinders and expertise up for the psyche heaven in urban farm. Lot of them. Don't get used. Really?

The skeleton one and spiders. Are the only one worth anything just because of string and bone meal, mmm, but at the same time you have a which Farm which produces lots of string, right? Not string which is Farms, don't produce string? No, get sugar sugar. That's the substance of second of, what else? Produces string, nothing else other than spiders, spiders cave spiders, that just points.

Okay, skeletons, and spider Farms are still kind of you Cool cats and making a cat forms kind of mean though, right? Yeah, it is we'd have C all over us. Yeah. Breathing down our neck and it will safety. All right, but I think that's going to do it. Do it for us back to Carl. Did you change the script? Yes stop chains are strip. Think that's gonna do it for us on today's show before dribble

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