Hey everybody. Welcome to the Wither effect. Today is episode 4 on July 8 2019. I am Duds also known the Duds versus a most media circles and I'm bunk out of apple or bank for sure. And today we're off of special guests with us to talk about to Minecraft. Welcome garl. Nice to see you to get. Riddled with us. But if you have been up to this week, I'll well this week. I have been very very busy on the ripple effect server.
I've been sorting out the buildings and the Redstone over our new Capture the Flag PVP area that East Road anchors cat is beautifully landscaping for us as I speak. And I've also been building up my for module iron farm that's going to be in my next video and you don't want to miss that because I kill a lots of villages and a lot of zombies trying to build up that farm and that's what I've been working on
this week. And from what I could tell from the picture is trying to crash the server. Oh, yeah, I literally logged in yesterday and there was just I Golems everywhere and I don't understand why because my base wasn't loaded. I'd literally logged off and there was no golems and I logged in and there was like 50 just around the farm. It was it was mental. Yeah this week. I've been doing a lot of bass
work. I don't think I've left the Basin like two weeks or whatever, but it was actually the beginning of my multiple streams a week and kind of skipping and episode week and it's been working out pretty well. I've enjoyed it. I've been bouncing around from Project to project which is something I don't normally do but I have enjoyed that plus I'm closing in on 500 followers. I'll make sure I think I like eight away. That's really nice.
What about you bank? I have a quite a busy week in real life yet again, like one work they of 12 hours, which was insane, but now I got the fication so I should have a lot more time. I didn't work around my base a little bit just a bit of decoration just like last week, but now that is vacation. I'm I said upstream and get that going a little bit see how that works. I q-- streams. No big promises yet, but you know I should have the time so they could be fun.
That's Checkmate better stream. Yeah, I'll announce it on Twitter and that kind of stuff when I get ready to it.
Do it Bank do it now not right now. alright, so let's go ahead and just get into the Minecraft news because it's light news technically compared to what we're used to so pretty really is to for 114 for has come out this release the like we're just going to do the big heavy hitter bug fixes and stuff villagers now stock more items villagers will now remember their gossip after becoming a zombie villager improved performance for or of villager pathfinding villagers can now Work without also
restocking at the same time gossip about players who converted a zombie villager will now last longer and player activity button on realm screen has been removed thoughts. Not particularly. Yeah improved performance of villager pathfinding still one. I'm kind of like Yay because I plan on building a better trading Hall in my base and I saw that that that was giving a little bit of a pain to a lot of players. Oh, yes. That is that's a big problem. What I said was a thing that
fixed. Yeah. I'm kind of excited when I set up my Village a trading halt. I find that the villagers will Li literally lock on to work stations on the other side of the trading halt. I had to go around and put double carpet in and let them all out when it's work time to move about and stuff. It was so annoying. So I'm glad Fix that one. Yeah, we got it does sound like a nice fix indeed.
I don't think any of us your play realm so pens just another are fix that we're not too worried about. The gossip lasting longer will be nice, but I don't even really know the original and timeframe it last. I haven't really played around with the Villagers yet and 1.14. So it's all haven't really looked into all that stuff yet. So it's pretty pretty news to me all together. Yeah. What about you Carl? You said something about villagers now stock more items.
Yeah, just just on that zombie villager thing for a minute. I didn't realize there was a time limit on it. So that's that's interesting that there is because I cured a zombie villager and then got into talk to all my guys. I wondered why some of them didn't you know, go down in trade price. So it's good that it's now longer on that one going back to as you say the more store this stock more items. I watched a video by doc M77 who showed that this current pre-release.
Anyway, it's only Villages that are created in 114 for that get the bump trades if you have Villages that are from Teen free or 114 two or even one 13 then they don't actually get that bump. They stay the same as they did in the previous version. And I could see that I mean it's hard to was a back program a villager that's already been created and had his trades locked and things like that.
I wouldn't expect that to be technically what fixed for 114 for I kind of assumed that just the way villagers will be moving forward. Yeah, most probably I would have thought it was like some on the underlying coding for the villagers that it would do it. But it seems as you say that it's / villager and I think that goes back to when they added the 114 Villages and they needed a way to separate them from the 113 villagers. I think.
Where that that code comes in and that's why it's separate between the versions that you also we have a ask Mojang video series. I know nothing of this. What do you guys know? I also know nothing but it sounds like they're gonna do a video series themselves for the answer questions or something. Yeah. I think Mojang has been criticized for not being very transparent, especially with the one 14 release and how badly that went and the not really saying much about it.
And I think this is their kind of way of putting that right is to ask for questions using the ask Mojang hashtag and taking questions from the community and actually answering themselves in a video series and I think that's kind of their way of getting back with the community after one for teens main release. Okay, hashtag. Ask for Yang. Have you listen to episode 3 of the podcast take anything from episode 3 to improve Minecraft in just use it. You have our permission though.
I would like a Duds Easter egg in there somewhere. That's a good one. Dude last podcast. I thought we did a lot of great work again how we would improve. Yeah, we came up with a little fun stuff. Especially those fireflies. They still stick their I know right? I would love some fireflies. There was some really good ideas in that podcast. It was it was brilliant the creativity you guys were coming up with last week was just brilliant.
Tiny Minecraft Geniuses right here should do that more often. I guess coming up with ideas for Minecraft we should is there should be like a monthly podcast. in itself and we just steal ideas for a certain aspect of the game. Yeah. Oh trust me. I I told bank one before we started the stream or this podcast and I'm thinking about making it next week's podcast
title. Sure. Let's do it. But we do have some listener comments to move on to and Carl. This is all you written all over it. I'ma let you take this one. Yeah. It's a lot of my stuff in the the first section here and welcome to Whether this past Sunday the 7th of July was the Ripple effects birthday.
Well one well while the other day and as as a celebration of that over the next 12 days from the date, we're recording this there will be images on our social media channels which are in the show notes showing off some of the great builds from the server. So we've got our and Island coming up. We've got the nether Hub coming up. We have the which Farms which
are amazing. So make sure you follow us on social media to see some of those pictures up there and that's all leading to a stream day that we're looking to have on the 20th of July. We haven't confirmed any times yet, but I'm sure you guys will have some information on that in next week's podcast. Yes, I can't wait. I love the stream days. Those are really fun. We should definitely be doing a lot more of them. Definitely. Yeah, maybe I'll be streaming
separate need this time as well. Oh thanks videos. Maybe we should get you on the 20th Bank. Yeah, that's the stream they right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's Bank confirmed for the streamed a later date confirmed. Okay, but let's go ahead and start moving on to some of our
main topics of his final cast. So the way we've done it this week is a little bit different each one of us has come up with a topic we're going to talk about so my topic this week is called so you want to play Minecraft Minecraft has Really come around and become a huge world win again after being basically dormant for I want to say three years kind of one of those games that yeah, people are playing it, but it's not all over the place and then all of a sudden now you have these really
large YouTubers and twitch streamers coming back to Minecraft. What started that I don't know but I'm sitting here and I'm watching some of these guys and they are struggling in the game. mmmmm, and I mean like what I would consider basic day one items like I don't know they find a zombie spawner and they have no clue what to do with this. So they just break it and you know, I'm just sitting there staring at the screen going. What are you doing? Just little things like that.
And so this topic was like if you could talk to these guys and tell them how you learned to play What Would it be like for me the way I learned to play Minecraft was watching a ton of lets players. YouTube's and stream and you got to try the different platforms. Don't just do YouTube. Don't just do twitch go to mixer.
Also, you got to have guys all over the place because everybody plays differently and you need to find out how you want to play and find someone who's playing a lot like you and kind of I wouldn't say copy, but let that be your inspiration. The other thing is you also got to know who's a troll and who's not a troll because I watched guys. I don't know day after day donate $5 and say hey if you have silk touch on pickaxe, you can silk touch that spawner.
And it's like no, he's playing vanilla, you know, he's playing vanilla because it's in the title and you just tricked him into breaking a spawner for five dollars. Not cool. What about you Bank? How did you learn to play Minecraft? Well those it's definitely an interesting experience skills. Well, I play I played a lot of games and it took a while before I started on Minecraft. And and one thing I definitely never did was look up on how to play a game.
I would just play it and I'd figure it out and usually get a tutorial which you can do first, but with Minecraft I was in the game and it's like what? I don't know nothing. They explain nothing at all. Yeah, it's a shove you in the deep end. Yeah, so I just I had to Google stuff which which then let me do the Minecraft Wiki which was and
still is an amazing resource. I think and that that they have like little videos and stuff which then let me to YouTube where I found obviously YouTubers who helped me along and all that sort of sort of guided me, but it was it was a strange sort of experience go. Because you basically had to Google how to play the game which was interesting and they came a long way from there because now they have like sort of a tutorial and the crafting book that gives you just all the
you know, crafting recipes. You don't have to Google those which is nice. Yeah. Yeah. Go back to seeing some of these guys come back the fact that they see that little green book in the crafting menu and they don't know to open it and then when they do like the little light bulb Above their head and saying oh, so that's what this does. I can do all these things now and then they find out that the red shaded Box means you can't do that right now.
Yeah, pretty much. I mean it's still not perfect. Like you said they still have to figure out how to open the crafting book and stuff, but it's so much better than it used to be. It really is. What about you Carl house? I was just for you when I first got into Minecraft. He was kind of by accident. I was so long ago now, but I was on YouTube and I came across.
This videos on Stampy's Lovely World, if any of you Aviva review of ever watched any of those and then from there, I found Mumbo and the hermitcraft group and then came across this in and that's how I got on to the ripple effect. Well, it was late loud guy at the time and then we moved over
to the ripple effect. And in terms of how I went about finding out things as you say back then we didn't have the crafting book and As someone who played Minecraft without it when they added it. I was a little bit like I don't know if I like this or not because I kind of enjoyed the finding things out rather than looking it up, but when I did need to look it up, obviously as you say the wiki tutorials Let's Plays are definitely the way to go and that's where content
creators come in as you were saying and that's where you know People Like Us come in and the podcast and things like that as well to kind of help. People long in that journey, and that's that's kind of how I got started in Minecraft. I'm thinking for like a good podcast topic might be day 1 Minecraft. What do you do like that could be a fun topic definitely to kind of cover a beginning tutorial you listen to us for an hour talk and we'll get you through day one. No problem.
Little bad idea. Actually, we'll have to throw that in our ideas list. Yeah. All right by bank, I think your topics up next what you got. So I'm quite a minimal going the guy I guess a Minecraft. Uh-huh. So my base doesn't doesn't have that much Eugenie and that gave me an idea like what's what's in your essential Minecraft base goes from E. It's pretty much an analogous and a bit and then they could be
dumb. I mean, yes you chests would be nice, but I don't That many because I met ender chest is basically my storage usually and then for the rest, I can go out of things quite quickly. It's not too much work. I think so. Basically you're saying you live in a tent pretty much. I mean, I I built bigger things just to sort of for the fan of building it right and decoration and the kind of stuff but I don't need that much just actual
essential stuff as well. Normally I play on the server so so We're going to spoiled for Farms right normally. Yeah, well do do build and then I've built one or two, but you know, you can share a lot which is awesome. If I wouldn't play on the server though, I definitely have some kind of food farm and like an iron farm. Those are definitely kind of essential things to have. Yeah. I was curious. What do you guys because I know you guys are a bit more
elaborate on that kind of stuff. Yeah, I am. I'm really a lover becomes that stuff. So a storage room is basically the first room I build in a base. Once I have the general shape of a base. I want to build which is usually inside of a mountain if anybody's watched any of my videos for any amount of time. I'm inside a mountain.
Yep. And the way I do the storage room is I like to have the blocks kind of laid out in front of me. So even if it's not every individual block, I want to see the plank versions of the woods so I can get color palettes and I'll put stone blocks in your stone blocks or craftable blocks near craftable blocks and dies near like wolves and concrete stuff like that because there are many times. I'll sit there like, okay. I want to build this room. I need a pallet.
So I just go and stand and my storage section. And stare and it's like 15 minutes of my guy not moving, but it's just looking at my storage room, but that's how I create pallets. So the storage room is just a super essential room for me. And I mean that's where you have the auto furnace. I've got trash cans built in there. I usually have some kind of overflow storage built in stuff like that.
Now when it goes on to building Farms, I love building Farms, but I'm always super conscious of server lag. So all my Farms are relatively on a small scale and that's because I sit for 15 minutes in front of my storage room looking at my pallets. So the Farms are just kind of always running in the background. They're not really doing a lot of cause I'm not going to get a double chest of items in an hour not a single one of my farm.
I can do that. It's the way I don't I mean I built a celt form that is I've already filled up three shoukry boxes full of dried kelp blocks and it's like at this point. I just go ahead and start throwing these things away because obviously I don't need anymore. I'm probably good all season same with my wolf are my boot a wolf alarm a couple episodes ago. Well, they're double chests are practically filled out. So I'm going around and I'm shutting the wolf arms off.
It's just I don't believe in large-scale farms unless their Community wise and so I'll design my base around tiny Farms heck I built a single cell iron farm for the first time at this base because we weren't going to have a large-scale iron farm for a while. But then Magoo and Carlock built a giant iron farm. We're giving it away, but that's different. Plus. I just started building aesthetically in my It's usually if it wasn't functional I didn't build it and this is kind of the
first season. I'm pushing into the aesthetic ideas of an essential Minecraft build.
What about you Carl? So in terms of storage most things I keep in my Ender Chest a lot like bank, but I have like a color-coded and numbered system that's based on exhume avoid system and I've kind of like improved it from my point of view and there's a a video of that on my YouTube channel and I basically keep everything in there from my diamonds right through to every kind of wood every wool concrete terracotta
everything in there. And that's so if I go to an area and want to build something I can grab a few schalke boxes out of there. And as you say put up a color palette of blocks open them up have a look through see what goes with what and then if I need more resources.
I'll go back to my base. Where I usually use manual storage systems, I get quite sort of a therapeutic feeling from tidying and organizing things into chest just like I do in real life really kind of like organizing stuff is really, you know is really good for me and that's what I like to do in Minecraft as well. So I'm not a massive fan personally of automated storage systems.
And the good for like bulk blocks like the and Cobble and stone and all that kind of stuff, but for every other item, I personally like to sort of do it manually.
It's kind of something. I like to do in terms of farms again, like I like small farms as well, but run sort of all the time in my base rather than massive Farms that I run every now and again and like the server to death and then in terms of So that they give me a constant stream of items then instead of having a big Harvest all at once right you are saying with your wolf arm. I'm having the exact same
problem with mine. I now have double chests and shulker boxes full of purple wool and you don't what I don't need any purple wall. Let's think about it going from this kind of situation in 113 wear wool was one of the hardest things to come across because it was Emmanuel Farm. Yes, you could set up some kind of a FK system for it.
But it was you know, it was a manual Farm in its Essence and to come into 114 and having that all automated now and just shows you kind of the kind of progress that Minecraft is coming into with Automation and it means that now we can build anything out of wall where before it was really hard to get we've now got an abundance of it. That's kind of how I got into Minecraft. What I like to do with my bass
and stuff. Yeah, I would love to see them take more automation steps Like the Wolf arm was completely out of left field when I saw 114 and I want more of that and thanks to my neighbor who decided to mow his yard at this random time of day and I don't have a big yard. So he is literally like right outside my wall. So if you guys can hear that in the background the podcast say thanks Jerry. It's all his fault. It's Jerry. Name is Jerry. That's awesome David. So I immediately picture that
dude from my camera ready. Yeah, he doesn't look like that but it kind of feels like that. That's amazing. I'm pretty sure yeah pretty sure he's doing it because I heard his wife yelling at him when I pulled into the driveway this afternoon. So it's one of those moments where yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah going through the topic.
Yeah, I noticed something which hadn't really noticed before but we all seem to have sort of similar build style like you like to look through the blocks to create sort of a palette and you like to stand in your storage room and create a palette and then start building I guess. Yep and myself and I guess that's why I keep like my under chest as a storage my I'd like to have to the surrounding and
the building. Self sort of create the pallets of like to have all those blocks around and being able to look at it just like Carl set and it's kind of interesting that the way you kind of build stuff makes how you do your storage because storage as always and you know, it's always a big discussion in Minecraft and how you do it. So many ideas on how you can do it and this sort of gives it an extra interesting insight into it. Like why people do certain types
of storage Roaches. Yeah, I mean for this season, I really thought about how I get ready for a project. How do I go build something and I have found the way I normally do things is I grab a bunch of random blocks Phil Show lockers full of blocks go build something come back. And now I have these shoulder boxes full of random blocks. So the way this season is I was said, I'm having an automated storage system. I don't care for breaks every month. Which it basically does cuz I'm
stupid. I will not blame the automated storage system. It works just fine when I'm not stupid. But yeah, I can I could literally just throw a bunch of soccer boxes into this shocker Crusher thing. I came up with is Joker box unloader per se and it just runs automatically through the system. It puts everything back nice and eat everything is exactly where I know it's going to be because of automated machine does it now the downfall is if I have two
full show Curb? Axes that I need to run through this machine. I better be prepared to sit there for 30 minutes to let it work and that sometimes stinks but a lot of times I found at the end of a project and doing it. I I'll just throw my choker boxes into the machine and I start editing the clips and stuff I have done and it really works out pretty well in the lineup when I'm done editing. The machine is done.
So I've really enjoyed my setup. I think every season from now on I will have some form of this setup going forward. All right. Yeah, that's that's kind of so you clean up your books. Yes.
I like to keep them around for a bit of all the random stuff in it as it were because if I want to continue building and that same area on the same thing or when I just adore whatever I still have the building blocks and usually a few you gonna build near it you gonna use the same kind of stuff anyway, so I always the more I sort of build that a place the more I get like a specified books for it. Yeah, and then when I'm really don't know I'll clean it up or I'll put the box somewhere else
or whatever and I found I've done that a lot with outside my castle exactly what you were saying is because out front of the keep is just a constant. Well, I'm going to spend 30 minutes re doing some Landscapes or I'm going to build a quick little house or I'm going to do some lighting effects, maybe build a custom tree. So I do have boxes spread out in that region. But that's right in front of the base and to me that's still kind of inside area.
So I'm not really counting that. Fair enough. I mean, I guess the further you go the less of a storage you got you don't want to run up and down all the time. Right but I do that and it keeps in Marla's Rocket Shop in business because I'm pretty sure I buy him out of rockets all the time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's I mean even though I got this system. I still travel around a little bit in my base and I Do by my fair share of rockets as well. Yeah.
Well did I think I went this. Last month without really buying any Rockets because you basically couldn't fly in the nether know and yeah, it was awful mastic. So hopeful just flying into unloaded chunks and just like seeing pigment and lava or just being stuck there and wondering whether you could have Plum it into the lava or whether it's actually going to load was one of the most freaky things ever and being able to fly now is really good.
I Was pretty sure they were supposed to fix chunk loading and I'm pretty sure I remember them saying Oh, yeah, Chuck one is fixed. And that's why we updated and
it's just as bad as it was. I think it's 114 phrase slightly better in the never for me anyway, but yeah, the chunk loading in the Overworld sometimes is really bad still and it's something that they I'm sure they're still working on it now with In for these updates are coming thick and fast now, I think they realize that they've got a lot of issues with the new rendering engines and the new light in engines that they implemented in 114 and I think all of these kind of problems
will be fixed properly eventually and I think that's why it helps that a lot of these big name YouTubers and streamers are coming back to Minecraft because the light is on Mojang. It's like hey fixture stuff. There's a lot of people looking
at your game right now. They don't want to see a bugged out version of it. Yeah, the amount of bad PR they got from hermitcraft Over. The initial release of 114 was just astronomical the amount of videos that were coming out from that group and you know millions of people watch hermitcraft and you know, seeing the game from that point of view cannot be good for sales and for people wanting to try Minecraft again, so I think they really know that they Need to get on it with
this. Yeah, for sure and let's not forget that what was it at? 113 Minecon are the first Minecraft Earth. That's now not Minecraft Earth. That's not mine con live who knows they promised to releases every year. Did you really believe that thoughts did you really believe? No, I didn't believe it at all. But that's what they promised and I went. Yeah, right and here we are. We get one release a year and it's extremely buggy and mowing used to step it up.
I mean going on the on the thing of State they got they got a lot of light on them. And even though the bad negativity I heard on the radio the other pay that apparently Minecraft past Fortnight again. Yep. Sure. There's definitely a big increase in players on Minecraft again trying to cool. But yeah, they got to fix that stuff. Yeah. I love that Minecraft's getting all this publicity because I still think it's the best game
out there. Granted there's games that do stuff better but in an all-around package, you can't do as much in other games as you can do in Minecraft. Definitely. Yeah and kind of the community aspects of Minecraft, you know, we as a group The ripple effect, we could be playing any game, but we choose to play Minecraft and we all get on so well and it's brought us all together for Right across the world from the USA to Europe to Australia.
It's brought all of us together and we're all great friends and that has happened because of Minecraft and that's something very powerful that not a lot of games can claim. Yeah, well put I think this perfectly is going to lead us into the next topic and that is the future of Minecraft Java Carl. This is all yours.
Take it away. Yeah, I kind of was thinking about this when Bedrock came out and since Minecraft was bought by Microsoft in 2014. With the introduction of the Bedrock Edition for Windows 10 mobile and console and they've kind of gone to this kind of area now where they're starting to sell things and with mashup parks and resource packs and it's all tied to Xbox and Microsoft platforms and we've Bedrock not being available on Mac not been available in Linux.
Oh kind of wanted to get your guy's opinion on the future of java and where You see that coming. I'm not talking about 115 or even 116 but kind of like where it goes in the future. Do you think that Microsoft will keep Java around long-term. Do you think that they'll bring these stores to Java or do you think they're going to treat them as separate entities forever? I went over because that lines up perfectly with my thought so about keeping Java round. I think it's a race right now.
I think it's a race between Java and Bedrock which I think is C plus plus on which one can include all the features and run at the highest performance possible C++ runs right now edit way better performance, but it can't do the Gently huge worlds Java can it doesn't have all the features. Like the left hand isn't fully there for them.
They can't even do shields because this and I think Java as long as you can keep ahead in the features and keep its performance increasing its going to stay around but the second the Bedrock version takes over java and performance and features. I think you'll see see the main version of Minecraft switch to the C++ version which I will be okay with if they keep to the heart of the way the Java works as its kind of the experimental ground. It's letting people do mods themselves.
It's letting the community push the game forward because its face it Mojang really does pay attention to the modded Community to get their next newest features. I don't know how many times I saw villager trading and villager. It's the year leading up to 114. And then bam. There's 114 heck Tango Tech was designing new villagers the like months leading up to 114 and sure enough. It felt like at one point million was just copying his mind.
So I want to know like just how far our is the community pushing my yang or are they sneakily smarter than all of us and playing these things here in Ants but as long as Java can continue to push forward and they really just need to focus on their performance. The community will show them where they need to go creatively they will stick with Java but II Bedrock overtakes him and features Bedrock will take over they'll ditch Java which will be a problem for you know C++.
Well, yeah C++ runs on Windows fine, but the in Java was I don't know this for sure, but I would guess the reason Java was chosen originally was because it was cross platform and yes to limit it to Windows as at fault. Yeah, you guys know this but the audience probably don't I'm a Mac User and then trying to keep it Windows only concerns me. There's rumors that mine. Dungeons will be Bedrock powered. So it will be Windows only it won't be Mac or Linux.
And that that kind of rubs me up the wrong way a little bit. We'll have to see whether they actually do that or whether they do make it cross platform. But I think to kind of the community aspect of Minecraft of including everyone I think is very important and I think to limit the platforms that Minecraft can be played on is heading in the wrong direction, you know in a way Oh, yeah, I don't think that's something they'll let happen. I think for Bedrock to take over
java. It's got to be able to do Max it's got to be able to do Linux because there are still people who play with Linux and dungeons. It's running like the unreal 4 engine which is a huge gaming platform. So I'm sure it's going to be able to do Mac. Even if it's just a port over. Yeah. Yeah, but I think they're just slow on announcing it because porting something over to Mac. Probably the last step for them to do it. It might be like a month after it's released or something.
But I'm sure it's going to be coming to Mac. I hope so because I hope there's going to be some multiplayer involved in dungeons as well because I think our group playing in dungeons together would be really cool as well. Yeah, I gotta get my Ninja on. So there's a lot of interesting things being being set as far as Java and C++ and my neck. I'm not actually sure all now Mac is programmed and all that which is weird. I kind of shoot.
No, but Java and C++ are like eagles Java is ones created to replace see it works slightly differently. From there are equal in quality, which might be the reason why they want started making it in Java cause I probably could go either way for the PC industry. I guess when it comes to bedrock and a Java version. I remember us having a me and that's having a conversation about this bike long time ago. And I remember saying that one thing I think.
It makes Java works. So well, I mean a big big part of the community is like the red stone or something technical guys, right? Yep, and Java does sort of create the real kind of books that aren't books that we like to use within Redstone take the book powered.
For example, it's it's, you know, it's a bug it's not supposed to happen, but it's something that happens and now we're happy to work with we be kinda use But a lot of the Farms are sort of based on those kind of little glitches and stuff better or goal is seemed to streamlined to have those kind of things. So unless they sort of lose
their perfection. I guess it's going to be hard for them to surpass the Java version of Minecraft also, like you said modded is such an important part of Minecraft and a lot of games actually a nice example Skyrim lasts, really long already, maybe because of their like modded. Yes. Well, I don't think Minecraft will or Mojang will step aside from that. I will be they would really rub against their Community, I guess. Yeah. So for that, I think the Java version is at least safe for a
long time. You said that when when Bedrock Edition is going to get more features than Java they they might run risk. Yeah. Yeah, I guess you could be right. Right. I'm not sure it's really tricky because they got a stick through to to Java Minecraft. I guess. That's the Minecraft probably most people know. I'm like, yeah, and I theory is that this isn't going to happen for a long time.
I still think the Bedrock version is a ways behind but when I started playing Bedrock was like three years ago when 1.8 Minecraft for Java just come out.
I remember I had one door. I could have a wooden door and that was it. I remember looking over in Java going wait, you can have like six different doors and I literally bought a $450 PC to build built my PC just so I can play Java Minecraft and have six stores compared to the one and now you look at bedrock and is it's almost neck and neck with the Java Edition, but they're still just especially the not infinite world to me. That's what's going to hold
Bedrock back is the fact that they can't have the world sizes. Java has and Java is made to just keep going and going and going and going. I'm I don't see it happening for a long long time. But that's one of the big features Bedrock would have to fix for it to even have the slightest chance of dethroning. Java. I think that's kind of be a problem for Mojang this over.
So I'm think they're fully aware of that issue like that broke and Java aren't the same they're getting closer and closer to each other and it seems like they're working towards emerging but I think Mojang knows very well that they can't they come get rid of one of the two they gotta keep. Yeah, but you can't merge it and keep both parties happy and both parties are so big You can lose one.
They yeah, they have they have something to work out, but I'm not too afraid that they'll mess things up too badly because still lose such a big player base if they do. Yeah, because even when I was talking earlier Minecraft was kind of in the bottom-dwelling popular games list for a while. It still was a huge game. Like it wasn't like there was maybe a thousand People playing online at a time. There were still millions of people playing this game on a
daily basis. That's a really accessible get accessible game, right? It's quite a cheap game. It's like what 20 20 dollars or 20? Euros that that kind of it's fairly cheap. You don't need a really strong be see-through run it like you can run this final Micah 10 year old laptop.
Well finding this may be a big word, but you can you can I mean you can play the game if you want to yeah, you know, it's it's so accessible which is great for like kids obviously, but I think also for adults anyone really Yeah, I think I'll be good for the for the future of Java for now.
Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I think hang on crime going to jump in. Imma let you finish out your topic, but I think the Microsoft purchase could only have helped logging and just by the fact that gave them a bigger was ladder to stand on because I think Microsoft understands Mojang's and full control and they're letting mugging have the Rings. They're just like hey, here's a bar. Can you hit that bar and
millions? Like well we can do this and Microsoft just goes here's some money find a way to get there. Well not to forget that experience and knowledge Minecraft or yeah Microsoft has an S can share with Mojang like they could manage Mojang a lot about well the technology, right? I mean Microsoft still a giant company and they're going to find ways to make money such as What Carla's saying the Xbox store where they're charging for skins and maps and stuff like that to me.
That's all well and good because those are optional things. If you don't want them, you don't have to buy them and Minecraft is such a you want it. You can build it game. So as long as they don't put important things behind pay walls. I'm okay with stuff like that. Yeah, really at the end of the day there are company and they need to make money. And as you say as long as it's
optional that's perfectly fine. And I think Microsoft are smart enough to know that they need to keep the player base happy and if that means keeping Java around and that's probably what they'll do and you know, they might add a few stores to it. They might add these mashup packs that are optional that they have in Bedrock and bring those over to Java and do that kind of thing. But yeah, like you say as long as As long as they're optional I think that's that's perfectly
fine. And they need to make money on the two billion per billion dollars. They spent on on Minecraft. So yeah, they need to recoup some of that somewhere like you were saying it's it's a very cheap game to start with, you know, it's 20 pounds 20 dollars and for what you get for that is amazing, you know, you can see games that aren't half as you know, the longevity of them isn't as much as mine craft and their 50 60 dollars. You know 50 60 pounds and you just get so much for the price.
It's awesome. And when you were saying about being able to roll it on anything, I have a server my own personal Minecraft server that I play on with some of my friends and that's actually hosted on a Raspberry Pi in my room and it worked perfectly fine. So running on that little processor and that little amount of ram it is quite astonishing that the game can run on some Vince oh so underpowered. I think you'd probably say but yeah, it's an amazing amazing game. Yeah, it is.
It's I bought this game for 20 $25 three years ago. I haven't had to put a dime into the game since then and it's been my daily driver game for 3 years. Like I think at most I've maybe not played it for a month or two
in three years. So the fact that I had not having to constantly pay I remember buying NFL Madden every year and it got to the point where it was just a roster update and now I'm over here playing Minecraft where I spent $20 and I'm getting free updates on a yearly basis that just are constantly expanding the game massively. Yeah it you can't find that anywhere else in mother's AAA games. Well not to mention. They don't really have a steady stream of income.
Well, they're starting to get it now, which is I guess why all the little transactions get in there but up until now they did it by people just buying a copy of the game and that's it. They've been able to update it really a lot.
I mean if I compare this to well other games, the only one I can think of is Skyrim and for the rest you had things like World of Warcraft. That lost s long maybe a bit longer, but they need like a monthly payment, right you get all the surfaces running and to keep it running and all that. Yeah, of course off didn't need it.
Well until now and I guess that's another thing the the little transactions they do in the Bedrock addiction, which is legally away from me. They obviously there to help improve all aspects of the rest of the game. Yes sort of Of a bonus for us that they do it. Although it's it looks a bit terrifying maybe woman you look at a new younger kids. Let's say a middle school kids picked up Minecraft. He wants to play Minecraft with his friends. So his friends bought Minecraft.
Well now they need a server to play on the server's aren't easy to set up on your own. So Minecraft gives you the option for a realm, which is straight up Mojang saying here. Here's what you need to play. Minecraft just play don't worry about anything else and stuff. Like that is awesome. Not to mention loading custom skins on Java addition while it's not super hard but someone who doesn't know how to work
that system might just go wait. I have to go to some random third-party website to create my own skin, but I really want a skin that just looks like this. Well, the Bedrock version has a skin that looks just like this in a store and I can pay two dollars or whatever it is. Is for the skin and now I get to play as my favorite movie character so stuff like that is
really cool to me. yeah, kind of making it more accessible and making it so new players can jump straight in and get the skin and get a mod pack or get a mash-up Mac mashup pack like the new Toy Story for one that they just did and kind of having that kind of ability without acting to mess around with server files and you know, all these different skin designers and things like that for a group like us setting up servers and doing all Kind of add many stuff in the background, which is a
lot more work than people would imagine I've been doing a lot of it last few days. And yeah just taking all that burden away from people and putting it onto Mojang and saying for this amount of money a month will sort all that for you. I think has really helped them to get to the position that they are now as the world's best selling game for sure. But I think we're going to wrap it up their Banks. You want to go ahead and leave
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