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Episode 152: Which is better single-player or multiplayer?

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In this episode, DuDs and Jimbo discuss the release of Minecraft 1.19.1, which adds Allay duplication and a new player chat reporting system. Plus, We have our Spotify poll results for 'Which Minecraft item(s) you would like to see in the game?', as well as listener comments, the first is from Xenith about how Minecraft could be turned into a tabletop game like D&D, Pianocat492 asks about which specific weapons, armour, and artefacts from Minecraft Dungeons would they like to see in vanilla Minecraft?, and finally, Torgax asks about how they approach big projects in the game. Also, in the main topic, DuDs and Jimbo discuss the pros and cons of single-player and multiplayer.


Minecraft Java Edition 1.19.1: https://minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-java-edition-1-19-1

slicedlime: What's New in Minecraft 1.19.1?: https://youtu.be/GFH9RWHrjSc


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Transcript

Hey everyone. Welcome to the weathering effect episode 150 to today's date is July, 31st 2022 and I am Duds or does versus known to the rest of the interwebs and I'm Jimbo you may know me as Jimbo slice 23. So what have you been up to this week Duds? I made my spider farm, not suck. I saw actually working pretty well. Yeah, you help me do the design of the Filling chamber room, hmm, But the farm itself doesn't suck at all.

I had the great idea of allowing the spiders to climb the walls because it only seemed to be the one wall the wall where you're standing in there. Looking at you, right? That seemed to be the wall that they wanted to climb 99% of the time. Mmm. So I let them climb the walls and they ended up climbing the walls all the way up into a water stream and his water streams about Three blocks. I didn't want to do just a downward water stream and push them down.

So what it does is they climb up the walls and then this three wide water stream just basically throws them back into the farm. Hmm. And usually after they get thrown they see me and they're like how get that guy? He stopped me from climbing my wall. Yeah, it's fun to see to you know, it's not just functional. Right? Yeah, it's actually pretty comical. I think it'd be pretty boring if you just had water falling from the ceiling.

Plus, you would need one block. Where the water didn't interfere with your water streams, pushing the spiders to you. So then they would still probably try to climb that one block and not go into the farm. And now you've just got spiders stacking up there and that one block. Whereas this you allow them to climb, get it out of their system and just toss them back, right? Yeah. It's not like you don't really see it but you can see the spiders falling from this dream.

So yeah, like in your face, you know, it doesn't mess up the look of the farm either. It's pretty cool. Yeah, you see them go up and then you see them just kind of Splash right back down. Hmm, normally they'd be stuck up there. That's how it works. I was pretty pretty happy with how it works. Yeah, the other thing is, I had to design a shop for this farm. That was one of the hardest things that I've had to do in a while because our shopping district now is not to season

shopping district. We've already said this a couple times on episodes and streams. We have a bigger shopping district being worked on called The Oasis. Or some water and it's gorgeous. So you want to save your good builds for there, so you don't want to put a ton of effort into these temporary shots but the same time you don't want to build something ugly. Mmm. I've got to find a happy medium and I ended up challenging myself to use jessa's palette for his Gate House.

Or as I've been doing it, my patio, and by just using the palette, build something that says Duds. And I think it turned out really well. Like it says your name. Oh yeah, 100%. Okay. No, but when you look at it, you're like, oh yeah, that's that's bill. It's a dead field. That's what I thought you meant. Yeah. Nice simple small cell in the shrinks on the eyes. But most importantly, I'm selling season passes to the farm. It's all honor system based. You just come buy a season pass.

There's no lock node or anything like that. Just use the farm. Yeah, I got some string. They're just letting you know if I plan on getting a pass, okay, passes are cheap. Yeah, what's funny is like as you play, you accumulate diamonds that you probably never go to spin this how it goes when you play multiplayer. It's fun to use to buy things but you accumulate diamonds because you sell things and you buy things and you constantly getting diamonds that aren't used.

So yeah, it's nice to have things to spend spend on, I don't mind. Passes. Pretty useful. Yeah, you want to be lazy, you can just go ahead and buy some string by your eyes or if you want access to it. You won't spend a couple hours down there. Go for it. Mmm, I spent an hour and a half down there. At first. I was like, I got about 45 minutes to waste. I'll head down there. I'll make a new sword because we talked about I'm still using an

iron sword. Yeah. It's a very good iron sword but I'm still using our answer so I was like, no, I'm gonna go ahead and upgrade to Diamond. So I made three diamond swords. And I go and chanting, I didn't get anything better than sharpness three. Okay. Everyone's while I'd get an Unbreaking 3. Every once in a while, I would get a what is it? Sweeping Edge 3. There you go, no looting. I got eluding one once but I got Bane of Arthropods over and over again.

It's like it knew I was using the spider farm for XP. Yeah, it's like come on but yeah, an hour and a half I was just like, hmm. I'm done swords, are dumb. Yeah, I noticed some of those enchantments like looting easier to get them on books like you get them more often on books that in feather falling, you enchant books. So bring some books with you when you want to chance certain things for them on the table, see what you get out of them.

Because, usually, that's where I get my feather falling have to try that because I'm Giving Up on, like almost the entire enchanting mechanic in Minecraft. It's so Leaders have broken so many things, but honestly, I think this is just a more of a unwillingness to update, huh? So I don't know. I thought about converting a sword to another right sort because you do get higher enchantment rates with another, I'd just like gold. I heard that, I don't know. Right now, my iron sword does

just fine. I'll keep using it. And then finally, I started doing some layouts to my actual base. I can't wait to get into my base. Or this season. I'm pretty sure it's going to be happening real soon. Nice, what about you? How is your week going? Well, I didn't do much Minecraft but I have edited my intro.

Do my intro all done out right before, you know, the music comes in. But yeah, there's a skit at the beginning with me and Arrington and it's pretty comical and it kind of sets up for the storyline I'm using this season. So it's a fun beginning. I do have a lot of editing to do and Some building actually finished my starter build, at least the outside it's Phyllis, but I just got to go in and dig out the inside. And what I really need is a

storage. So I need to get storage room set up and go from there because I have an Electra. I have never write armor, I have shocker boxes and I don't have a storage system, not a system, just storage in general. I don't have one chest that has my items in it, so I'm kind of playing the game backwards. At the moment. Yeah. So have to do that and that's going to be on this my latest episode, so stay tuned for that. And I'm going to go do some interior design because like I

said, the outside is finished. Yeah, and there's a lot going on on the server right now channel 64. So, like to show a little bit of what's all happened. Awesome builds. Great builds. Same here, I haven't done much walking around on camera as there were a lot of Unfinished builds while I was working. There, there's a More builds being finished. So I plan on doing a little walking tour at some point in this episode. Yeah, that's pretty much it for

my week or two weeks actually. Oh yeah, this is two weeks because we had last week off because Carl was on vacation. Mmm, let's have a week off every once a while. Oh yeah. Should we hop into the news? Yeah, a lot of news here. 119 one is here. Yeah, we've talked about chat reporting to the Max and honestly after spending an hour on Twitter, anyone tweeting about chat reporting any more, either way for or against it

think. I've unfollowed, I just got so tired of hearing everyone down there each other's throats. Hmm, it's just like, come on, man. Chat reporting's here. We haven't had any crazy bands that doesn't. It's not going to happen. I've always been under, I'd rather moderate ourselves more so than have someone else moderate us. But at the same time we don't know what has led Mojang to do this. So there might be a perfectly good reason. It is what it is.

Yeah I mean there's always a chance that because it's words being written or typed it can always get taken out of context. You know. You might not mean to say something a certain way and then it could you know that's really the only thing I'm worried about Right.

But the Saving Grace is that there's a human on the other end, determining what's out of context and you don't get just the comments that have been submitted, you get some comments before and some comments after to get more context, the only thing that could go wrong is someone's in voice chat while other people aren't and yeah, either way the bug fixes that have been around for a while such as if you cure a zombie villager they don't restock their trades that Finally fixed.

Oh good. That was a bug that I couldn't believe they were waiting on this stupid chat reporting before fixing like that was a serious book and you think it would have been caught sooner than, you know, the release date. Yeah. Figured. Someone was playing it and they tried to convert villagers or on the pre-releases. Yeah, but it's fixed now, so it's fixed. Now you have the duplication of allays or breeding or creation duplications just it sounds like the wrong term to use for those

things. I like to me, it's an l.a. creation, breeding don't even think is breeding, because you're only doing, like, you only give all, this is only one to one. So you're creating another one from one, not breeding to to get one. Yeah, two different species. Yeah. Either way, I think they're still dumb as in their AI is not improved much. Okay? I love the look in the mob. I like the sounds just I'm pretty sure there's a lot of Todd's out there.

Yeah. For those of you who don't know watch Jimbo's episode number one. Hmm. Not the brightest makes for some funny moments but keep them on a leash if you can or I've noticed a lot of people been putting them in boats or Minecarts great idea. You know to keep them keep more of the Rat. It's not like you can make these things sit. Yeah. So you have to contain them well and it seems like a waste it's like Like we get a flying mob in the game.

We have to house it in a boat, mmm, because if you don't take it out for a specific reason, they might get themselves in trouble. Just saying, hmm? Well, at least now, if you're Todd dies, you can make a new one. Yeah. Might want to do that before Todd dies. But well, as is a, you have one. I catch your drift, that's constantly dancing that you're creating new Todd's with as let's, let's move on to some listener comments. Had Carl constantly change the size of this pole.

He put the Spotify add pull in there but it's so small. I couldn't read me neither we had some text chat back and forth. Hmm But yeah our last which Minecraft ideas would you like to see in the game? It was tied between Oasis and double jump and chant both at 17%. Which one would you pick? I'd love the idea of the Oasis in the desert. But I see the double jump and chant being more useful. Yeah I'd probably go double jump, I mean it's an

enchantment, it's hard to n.c. Beginning else I don't want it. What everyone else wants everyone else wants the jump. You can now fall and then right before you hit the ground, hit jumping in to save yourself. I don't want that because I gets rid of the feather falling and chant. I think it should be jump and before you start going down in y or Y value, you can hit jump again and go up again. I like, where if Good jump, anytime you use your second jump in as soon as you hit the ground.

You're double jump is null and void, but can't combine it with feather falling. Yeah, you'd have to you know, somehow I guess I could see that make it work in that sense. But yeah if that's the case I can see that can't combine it but then again you can still die from feather falling. Hmm. Whereas this double jump, you would never die. So that's your head to the void. Yeah. Or can avoid the lava?

Yeah. Or if you just bad timing, some Lister comes, I'll start with Zenith and they say, I'm late. But if you are into trading card games, you could discuss which Mobs and items, you'd like to see as cards. Minecraft is a tabletop game like D&D. Even I'd play a Minecraft theme tabletop game, but totally nerdy. And I would like, or I want to make Minecraft trading card game now for myself, man, I cannot read tonight. Yeah, it's brutal. Well, I'm trying to breathe at the same time.

You can't tell. I've got stuff knows clogged throat. So fun allergies but yeah I don't play mini tabletop games. Yeah, not anymore. At least you have to have friends for that. He's like a group of friends and stuff. Yeah. The idea of tabletop sounds fun. Yeah they like the idea of D&D always interest me but I've never had anybody that was into that kind of thing. So and I've never really got the gist of how it all Works. And it does, it does look and sound entertaining.

I have a buddy. Who's huge into DND, who has constantly begged me to play D&D with them and I have I've never done it but at the same time I think if someone ran a Minecraft server D&D style, I'd be down for that. Yeah, I'd be a part of that. You see, so many of these people making these custom maps for the tabletop to show the Any or whatever like where you are and stuff like that. Hey, it would be so cool to have that in Minecraft as a world.

Yeah. They also asked which mobs are you could discuss with two Mobs and items you'd like to see in as cards? I like to see all the mobs. Yeah. You have to put everything right now again I don't know the specifics of like a DND. Maybe this Minecraft tabletop game can be different than D and D. You know not absolutely the same but yeah. Yeah.

I mean, enchantments the works. I would like to see all that, but the come up with the game would be difficult for my view because I've never never played D&D, never played anything like that. I haven't either, I've seen some people play it. Not like all the way through, I've never sat down and watched an entire session because they're quite long. Yeah, I know there are streamers that do D&D sessions. I might start checking out some of those me to, to see if I like it.

Yeah, just be a fly in the room. Actly or you were on the stream. Probably sounds better see how it works. You have a question on Jimbo? Yeah, there's a from piano cat 4920, right? That's towards the bottom but they asked. Hello, I have a question. What specific weapons armor and artifacts from Minecraft dungeons, would you like to see in vanilla Minecraft? Personally, I love to see sickles ocelot armor and corrupted. Beacon would love to hear your

guys thoughts on this. Keep up the good work, you know cat. 492 was Unstoppable with this dungeons gear in vanilla Minecraft. I think it's a question we've already talked about. Yeah, a long time ago, like you've recently, I've not played dungeons, I haven't either and I'm being too so much. I love Dungeons and I just haven't picked it up in the longest time and they updated it all. Oh yeah, yeah, oh they did the, the levels the tower. However, we talk.

Yeah, the tower, we've talked about this. Yeah, that looks cool. They've done some Things. Since then to yeah, dungeons is such a good game and I hate how little I've played it. I've honestly been considering hooking up that in. Do switch to my computer, so I can stream it and that will kind of be my. Hey, I'm taking a day off of Minecraft building. Maybe I'll just play some dungeons on stream or something. Mmm, still use the Minecraft content though.

Yeah. Is there any weapons that you remember using the sickles are amazing. I'd love to The sickles you like to sickles, mmm. I like the movement of the player using the sickles how you can combo attacks. That's the big thing. Like I've always wanted combat in Minecraft to have combo attacks, but at the same time, like be smart like someone

carrying an axe. We know the axe does the most damage especially on a critical hit out of all the stuff in Minecraft so you wouldn't combo giant axe wings but right small thing like the sickles you could combo those pretty easy sword. Maybe if you Do a big, sweeping Edge swing. You durn small Jabs. Maybe that could be a combo, the armor sets and dungeons is really cool. Well, some of them are really cool and I'd love to have them in the game, just the customization in Minecraft.

I feel it's a Sandbox. So everything's playing because it's up to you to customize it at the same time. I wish it wasn't plain. I do remember. I think whatever what Like the Wolf armor, I know it's probably one of the very first armors you Get but I like the look of it but I don't see, I don't see Minecraft bringing that to the game, you know, wearing a wolf skin know and it's disappointing. And it's also kind of crazy because people did wear things like that.

Yeah. Like a tribal type of deal. Yeah, I'm trying to remember the armor. I liked wearing the most. I think it was like the minor one that had the little candle as the Hat. See, I haven't seen it. I always thought that one was pretty fun. Did it matter? What armor you had was better than others, or you could have Armor. But yeah, no, it did. Okay, no armor has levels on it too.

Yeah. And there's like iron armor and stuff like I said, like we would get normal Minecraft but it's not like that, but it was just always so big and bulky. It looked weird on my character and yeah, hmm, the armor customization in the game is super cool. I really like it and this could all be used in the trading card game as well. Yes, very well could be mmm bring in dungeons. Our last comment is from torque acts. How you Roach big projects in Minecraft once farms and also builds.

This is another question. We've so on this chord, we asked for some topics because to put it in perspective, we've been talking about the deep dark and wardens since episode 65. And we are now one episode 152. The updates have not had a lot of variations in them for that long so it's becoming real hard to come up with Topics in Minecraft. Yeah. Slim Pickins. Yeah. Nowadays you know, we pretty much covered everything. Yeah. It's a very vast game but at the same time you start to talk

about stuff. But now that it actually has been a while since we've talked about this. Hmm and I figured we could put our input on it again. It's nice to get you know not just like listen or comments but listener suggestions for topics you know would be nice if any listener has some pretty cool topic. That we haven't covered before. Throw them at us, that'd be cool. Yeah there was one from core otter about revamping. The food system. We've talked about that a couple times.

Yeah, Omni does a great YouTube video on revamping the food system and there just hasn't been anything added to the game to change. How we would revamp the food system yet. So that's why we haven't talked about it yet or again, hmm. Yeah, that happens. Check out our news video if you want some more stuff on that, do very good, big projects I think everyone does big. Projects differently. Yeah, quite a few in the past big projects for me. Isn't something you just knock out? You know.

It's not like you sit down. You knock out a big project. Well I guess. Depends on the scale. Like big farms can be knocked out at once but like big builds. Big Ideas basis in general. Yeah, you're not. That's just not going to get knocked out.

So for instance, I had a prison very Mountain while building my Mountain. I had other things to occupy By my time with like if you if you focus on one big project at once or one big build, sometimes you can get bored of this and this could lead to burnout but if you jump on little things back and forth, as you chip away at your big project, it helps you get get through this. Exactly. But you're exactly right little projects to kind of run interference with the big project.

It's huge to avoid burnout. If you're talking about planning out big projects and like big bases, and Put farms and stuff in between there, as I don't know. For me, I never go in with a definite plan, like this is going here. This is going here. I have a general layout like I do this bubble map and generally I do a central storage unit and an easy to access storage unit because you're going to the storage room a lot.

Yep. So you want to easy access Central storage room and then kind of draw some bubbles off of that. What you would like To be where as you're building. Keep in mind, you have a farm need so much space to be built. So now you're adding empty space to it. I found it easy just to build farms as deep underground as you possibly can and just pump the items up to you using water path. Yeah. I'm the same way.

I don't really know where everything's going to go, you know, you get a layout of what your base, what you want to kind of look like, Like I have an idea what it's going to look like I haven't got to put the blocks down but once I start putting blocks down, it starts to come to.

You like this is where my storage is going to go, you know, and then you you kind of pick a sword system if that's what you want, you know, automatic or just regular old storage that fits in this area and the Farms that kind of Branch off of there. For one, it's nice to have the forms that you need. Right off the bat to help you with your builds. Yeah. You can go from there and add Farms, you know, that you just want to build that to help you get through the game in general.

Yeah, it's I'm sure everyone does this differently though. Yeah. But that's that's usually how I do it. Just start start with a base, put down some blocks and then eventually you'll find the perfect spot. This is like the least helpful. I think we've ever been. Yeah, I'm trying to like I could see it in my head. Yeah. That's just it, it's a vision. It's a vision you're going off of. It's not a It's not a blueprint and you kind of have to feel it out.

You kind of have to know the size each Farm or no Farm room needs to be to build off of it. Yeah. Yeah. You definitely want to know how much space you have and it's being Jimbo or so bad about. We're not creative Builders. We barely go onto a creative world and design something. If we're on a creative world designing something, it's because we're struggling, we're very much Wing, It kind of players.

Yeah. Yeah last season my ripple pirate Mountain. The only thing I knew is I wanted a mountain that had a storage room. The had a lake in it, that had a rock in the middle of the lake, that's it. And then I winged everything from there. You have a lot of time. It's not when you planning these projects, it's not set in stone, you know you know add things you take things away, you want to fit something else in there, you know, this doesn't fit, I got to

move it somewhere else. Now you change out my Out. Yeah, that's okay. I was going to build three mountains. And inside those three mountains, I was going to hide all of my Farms inside of them. After building. The one mountain I said this is stupid. I hated the grind. I didn't want to do it anymore because when I build mountains I don't they're ours, no spawnable, spots, everything is stared and slabbed. Yeah. So it gets annoying and I was like, I've got to do this two

more times. I don't think so. So I built the. It was easier for me to build a dome in the ocean underwater. It was for me to build a new Mountain. Now I'm going to look I'm going to look at this question again at a different perspective, okay. Because they asked to ask about Farms to a let's not think about basis.

Okay, let's think about if you're going to build a farm my suggestion would be to build the farm and design around it design around it. Sorry, I think I slurred there but yeah, get your Redstone and place or like that said, make sure you have the space to build this thing. And then decorate it, you know, you sometimes expose Redstone can look good but think it's nice to hide most of it.

But yeah I suggest building the farm and then covering it up with details if you can put a building around the farm. Yeah, that's the thing. A lot of people don't like doing that, which I understand because I'm also one of those people that don't like building buildings around forms. Mmm. Build it underground. Yeah. If it's exposed build around it, a lot of people I see just have these Random Farm. Above-ground and Minecraft farms are not the prettiest thing in

the world. I mean if you're going for that Redstone technological, look it can work. But yeah. Hide it underground. Pipe all the drops up. If you alright, mmmm that it for our comments, I believe. So I hope we answered your question. Do I hope that, too? Yeah, those comments were from our Discord and see only place where you can talk to everyone who works on the show. Easily, just take cast as word for it.

Is this thing on? I'm cast and I'm here to figure out why you have yet to join the withering effect Discord. It's a great place to hang out with other Minecraft enthusiasts and the creators of the show. The link to join the Discord is in the show notes. Thank you for the Discord. Add Cass. And speaking of Discord, is the only place you can get involved, are mending Minecraft vote this

week. We asked you to choose between one of three structures for us to discuss it improve in your choices, where Pillager Outpost desert pyramid and the iceberg and the winner of mending Minecraft. This week is Desert pyramid with 18 votes second is the iceberg with 17 and 6 for Pillager Boost. I was thinking desert pyramid would win this. Yeah. Honestly, though, the votes have been kind of dropping, I don't know if people are just not happy with the pics permitting Minecraft.

But yeah, I mean, there's only so many structures items and mobs in the game issues. From when we do many Minecraft, your these are going to like Pillager Outpost an iceberg will come back around, you know, eventually like no one likes them now, just imagine how it's going to be when they come back around next time and also, So putting out there again, we've known about the warden since episode, 65 right? It's episode 152. So we haven't been getting a lot

of new mobs in the game. Hmm few things on the desert pyramid before we start desert pyramid often referred to as desert. Temple is a Sandstone structure sometimes generated in deserts, it contains four chest under the floor in the center, protected by AT&T trap. Don't let it fool you. Mmm, Pyramids are constructed with normal chiseled and cut Sandstone, orange and blue terracotta, and Sandstone, slabs and Sandstone stairs.

It's like a tongue twister. There's one main interest in the front, two more interested in the back and both left and right, sides near the top of the pyramid and a one block wide hole on the top, a secret room spawns under the temple, Bound by destroying the blue terracotta block, just don't fall in there. The secret room contains four

chests that are trapped. With the pressure plate that if activated TNT is ignited and destroys all the loot, the four chests will explode some notable loot in these chests are diamonds diamond, iron golden horse armor enchanted, books enchanted, golden apples Saddles, golden apples, iron, gold and emeralds and that is all for the desert pyramid. You're so bad at reading lately. I did I did okay, there, I was proud of that. It was a lot of notes.

Mmm, it's strange because it's a lot of Foods for the desert pyramid, which is a boring structure. Yeah. Besides the chests, you know, once you, once you seen it, mmm, and I like how it says, you break the blue terracotta block, you don't want to break that block can write. You want to, you want to go two blocks over and dig down from there because? Yep, you don't want to fall in the blue terracotta and sometimes sometimes mobs will just spawn down there.

There are spawnable blocks down there, where they can spawn. And hit the pressure plate for. You get down there. Yep. And also remember, break the pressure plate and take the T and T that's underneath don't let an item fall on the pressure plate, right? Yeah. That blue terracotta block that you break could fall and ruin everything. So hmm, just just like, you know, but you said the magical phrase that leads me into fixing the desert for me because I actually like the look of the pyramid.

I don't think the look of the pyramids. Import. I think it's a very good look in the game. It's one of the more detailed structures we have in the game. It's just the inside. That's kind of like yeah. And once you've done one, you've done them all, you know, exactly what to expect. Even even a jungle temple is a bit more complex than the desert temple. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah and this leads me to desert temples should have a labyrinth underneath them.

So take out the Trap. It doesn't need to be a Big Labyrinth and I know that will you can just buy passes by mining around. It's like yes you could that's the same deal with the Trap you bypass it by digging around it so yeah I feel the Labyrinth could be a bit more fun than the normal. Drop down two blocks to the left and dig their but also maybe have a bit of a sand boss in the middle of the labyrinth. Not some kind of like crazy hard like has a red bar. Yes, I'm thinking like, for

husk. Maybe. Mmm. Oh, I'd like to get rid of this cough so I could breathe when I talk. But yeah, have a couple husks. In the middle of the labyrinth, you gotta kill the husks to get to get your prize, maybe have low light levels, use some glow lichen so maybe there's a chance. Some other mobs can spawn inside the Labyrinth to you know what? If there's like a spawn. Well yeah yeah. That that would kind of be loot itself. Yeah, you can have a husk Spawner in there. That might be okay.

Okay. It's nothing crazy. You know? Ask spawner nah but to me that's better than the for chess and TNT. You get ya some time but that's it. That's all I had for desert temple. I didn't go crazy because I really like the Labyrinth idea and I wanted that to be the main focus, okay? Think I think I mentioned a while ago, a boss being in there that was a king cobra. All I think that was for the jungle temple. It might have been for the jungle temple. Yes, snake boss.

But yeah, I remember you. Point a snake Boston and I said no snakes in Minecraft I don't like snakes. Yeah Jimbo once a mess with me. I put bees in his base. He'll put snakes in my base. Put a giant Cobra boss in there. Just go to Temple and lure him out name tag them. Get you new home? Yeah I like the idea of a boss like a smaller boss. Yeah doesn't need to be anything crazy hmm. Even some long the lines of a warden you know they just like spawn when you get to certain level. Why?

It's some kind of crazy? Yeah well I mean nothing too difficult. No. The cries of a thousand players who have died to the warden. Mmm, not too difficult. Yeah. Oh, I'm not saying the Wort is the difficult. I mean, he's, it's hard to conquer, but also wanted to mention the the design on the outside of the pyramid with the orange terracotta. It's actually it's a stems from the ancient honk. It's like a ancient. The ankh, it means like life or something.

Infinite life. I don't know if you're familiar with that. I thought that was pretty cool. There's a little bit of the lore involved with that nice, and it's sure getting to our main topic. Yeah, this one should be a fun one. This one actually was suggested from Jess and it was the pros and cons of single player versus multiplayer. So, what we did is Jimbo took multiplayer and And I took single player. Hmm, I'm thinking Jimbo. What we do is we somehow managed to get for pros and cons for

each. Hmm, I'm thinking you read a pro multiplayer and I'll read a con single-player, okay, or try to match up your pro to Mike on to see how close we got. Okay, let me start. Yeah, go ahead. My first pro 4. Multiplayer is collaboration? Yeah, it's awesome playing with Other creators, you know, especially if you do content or stream anything that variety, there's more people to hang out with and it helps helps create content. I have no co.labs as my last con

playing with people's fun. Hmm. So having other people around while your buildings. Great. Right, mmm. What's your next Pro I go? I go again. Yeah, my next Pro for multiplayer is more items and blocks available. I noticed every time you know we start a new world hurt, doesn't have to be a new world but there's blocks that you don't have that. You have to go far or have to go gather up.

Well there are a lot of other players on the server that may have the block that you need and they're not using it so it's nice to ask around. Have other players available to see if they have that blocker item that you can use or trait. So love that I am right there with you. My number one cotton was you're on your own. Not only does this mean no co.labs. It means you have to gather the resources you need by yourself. Right? Yep. That takes more time. No friends to help.

Nope and I noticed you have the opposite for this next one. My next Pro for multiplayers inspiration. Mhm. Builds everywhere you know that it's a lot of times if you're building in the same area you can kind of go off of that build and then you see different ways people are using blocks, you know. So you can use them in your builds and it's just, it's just a good way to get inspired. Yeah, my client was no creative inspiration. Mmm, except for just like the

game itself. Exactly. This Village, your house isn't very inspiring. Well, there are some landscapes in Minecraft that are absolutely gorgeous and can really inspire you to build, but if you're looking like we did in the desert, I have such a struggle building in there because it's a flat surface. Hmm. Chose the one piece of terrain I felt stood out and I built in it.

Hmm. And being on the channel 64 server, you can see how people were utilizing the desert and, you know, just their Creative Landscaping and it's it's pretty amazing to see how they do it. And, you know, you, you're able to use that yourself. So my last Pro for multiplayer, is more game variety. Like you can play the game a certain way single player. Our but there's so much more to do if there's more people for instance, there could be a parkour. For course that someone set up,

you could play that course. This isn't something you made this is something someone else made your other games at that. You know, not just that but someone could set up a maze or someone could set up a scavenger hunt that you get to enjoy in the game. You know, you get more variety with the game. I don't have a con that goes with that. My final con. Was that servers can take stress off your PC.

It's not like 100% stress fee, free on your computer but it does take a load off on some of the things you're trying to do. Okay. So some single-player world you can't play because too much going on it. I wonder if that's the same for like console, I'm not sure. Imagine be similar, maybe some stress. No. Well, I know when I played console the world was on a person's console like we didn't

have a realm or whatever. Yeah, so like someone had to be on. They didn't have Realms back then but whoever owned the world, had to be online for you to play on it and I guess you're pouncy, would still have to render. What was out there.

Yeah, I'm not sure. All I know is, I can tell when I get on a server from when I load a single player world, it works a bit quicker and smoother on a server and not a huge amount, but just a little bit and it's usually that first world load once everything is loaded up about the same. Now, I think I'm going to go ahead and say the pros for single player and you try to match it with your cons, okay? My first pro is, it's your world.

You can do what you want, you want to dig it, dig a giant hole, dig a giant hole so you get Dino. Yep. Take it down home. Sorry I have so much mucus buildup in the back of my throat. I can't breathe. I do have a con for that multiplier con. My first one actually is lack of free will. There you go? Go. Now this isn't something. I don't know. It isn't too bad you know but yeah.

Wouldn't you when you play with others you got to consider playing with others and what they build and everything. So yeah it's just a fact that this isn't just your world. You have to play with others. You know. You can't just burn. Someone's building down. That's not something I get enjoyment out of or anything but you could do that in your world if you wanted to but in multiplayer world, it's not frowned upon her. It's frowned upon. It is frowned upon.

Yeah, you don't have that freeway, you can't do whatever you want. Like you can't just leave trees half up, you know, I guess you could. But, you know, this, it's not your work but being considered you'll be playing on that world very long know. People get upset right about doing that. Yeah, but you got to be considerate which isn't a bad thing, you know? But yeah, it's not just your world while in like I have something that can go off that. That it is. It's you don't have to worry

about clashing builds. Say, you want to build a medieval build, but the guy next to you or girl is building, I don't know, a futuristic spaceship. Hmm, doesn't make much sense for those. Two bills have your right next to each other, right? Or the say they're, they're doing a dark evil palette and you're making an ice castle. Yeah. The clashing builds. Yeah, the one I could see that could go with. That is a Others May play. It then you. Now you could see this as a con.

You could see this as a pro but you know you could see people doing certain things that you aren't a fan up. You know, mean that they're playing different than you. So that's the only part about that. That is the con like, for instance, maybe they just leave junk everywhere. Yeah. Make a mess on the server, you know, that's the way they play, you know, they just don't pick up after themselves, you know. But yeah, yeah there's there's always that.

I have another one that could kind of go off that too, and it's the no embarrassment. And that's, that's the wrong way to phrase us, but I couldn't think of a better way to say it, and we've played with people who have said that while the builders on here are too good. I don't feel like I'm good enough and they just stopped playing, and that shouldn't never have to happen. If it's no one's fault because people are just kind of building but on a single player world,

you don't have to worry about. All right. You don't have to worry about looking down upon your own stuff and comparing it to another person's build. It seems like there's always a build that outshines another in a multiplayer and yeah, like I've had some really good ones in and I had some bad ones. So trust me. We're all in that same boat. Yep. I really don't have one that goes with that one. Other than you know, other other players might not get along.

Yeah. That's a con with bought that That player, you know? I mean you could get along with most of the people but maybe there's one person that you just can't get along with ya I guess this could go with you others play different than you but maybe just thoughts and opinions even you know not game-wise that you don't find. So appealing with other players. Yeah you personally don't get

along with this person. Yeah he said something about my mother type of deal you know one this was something we had to do with on common craft a good bit because we were a white Sit public server so anyone could really apply and you try to get to know someone before they come on the server, but a couple hours here and there talking doesn't mean you're going to know all about them and sometimes you just don't click and gel and it makes for a rough ride on the server.

Yeah. Especially for public servers. You know, that seems to happen more than more often than not, but yeah, I'm even even if like you get along with everyone, there's two people that don't get along. That kind of rubs off on everybody else. Yeah, it's just, yeah, not fun. Not fun to be around. Yeah. If you got two players, constantly bumping heads, it could, it could wear on the other people playing around them. Write my final Pro for single player.

You don't have to worry about server connectivity, right? Yeah. Yeah. That is good one. Hmm, don't have to worry about. I'm not able to connect to the server at this time. Oh, my Wi-Fi is down. Nah, you just jump on me play. Yeah, and that Really goes with Mike on well last multiplayer caught is server lag. Hmm, I guess you could put connectivity in there because that's where a lot of lag comes from. Yep, when your connection isn't right? But yeah.

And also playing with others, it expands the world, like the world's working a little bit harder because more, it's loading in more the world at once, so the you could get lag from that. So, yeah, connectivity server connectivity, that's it. That's all we got. Got that's our pros and con list of single player versus multiplayer. Yep. And I'm sure we're missing some. Yes. Like, we actually came up with this topic before we recorded.

So yeah, we put these down just off the top of our head, so I'm sure we're missing something. Well, we come up with every topic before we record. Yeah. But what Jimbo means is, like 45 minutes before we report. Yeah, we're actually what we're supposed to do this yesterday. We're like, man, you know that we look and see that? We've been doing what caves and cliffs since 6560 fifth episode were like wow yeah no wonder. Yeah it's hard to come up with

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