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Episode 109: Deeper than the Deep Dark

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In this episode, DuDs and Jimbo discuss the fourth experimental snapshot of Minecraft 1.18, Caves & Cliffs, which includes a number of changes to biomes, brings in more iron and bigger copper blobs, and reduces the likelihood of rivers being cut off and turning into steep dry river gorges in mountainous terrain. Plus, we have listener comments from The 1st-er, asking about Minecraft music and if it needs to become more complex and relevant to what's going on in the game, and FragileRock asks, which tool or object DuDs and Jimbo think is under-utilised. Also, DuDs and Jimbo talk about a recent tweet from Kingbdogz about which is more important to be fleshed out, the Warden as a mob or the Deep Dark as a biome.


Minecraft Experimental Snapshot: https://minecraft.net/en-us/article/new-world-generation-java-available-testing

Slicedlime Video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zzFgC43D9yI

Kingbdogz Tweet: https://twitter.com/kingbdogz/status/1427952557440253957


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Transcript

Everyone, welcome to the weathering effect episode 109. Today's date is August 22nd 2021 and I am Duds or Duds versus known to the rest of the interwebs and I'm Jimbo you may know me as Jimbo slice 23. So we'll start off with what you've done this week. Does Pranks. I've noticed I've been in the pranking mood. Yeah so I needed payback you a pranked me a while ago and I had been biding my time until it was time for revenge and that was this weekend. Well, really this week.

So I haven't got the sea yet. But I've saw the picture. Yeah. Because I posted the thumbnail in the weathering effect chat. Yeah. We do we like to share thumbnails with each other. Just for suggestions. Go. And I saw a see my base there. Any storage room. And I'm not going to spoil anything, but it makes sense. I get it. I mean, speaking us, what that in the episode will be out tomorrow for us, but it will be

Monday for everyone else. When everyone else here is just the episode should have come out like two or three days ago. Yeah, right. Okay. Yes, it's not really spoil it. What it will be for you because you don't know the extent of the prank because you haven't been in your base yet. Yet? Yes, you just know your base has been pranked. I can tell you what we did to prepare as base.

Okay, so you got a base and in the middle of his Lake, says, big tree here, just put a sign, any kind of outlined where he was going to put the tree. And I was talking to Albany because Omni obviously help me do the pranking, you'll see that in the episode. Let's just do a really giant ugly birch tree right here. And he's like, yeah, cool, let's do that. And so, This trees like a hundred blocks tall and I want to say it was 15 like 12 to 15 wide for the trunk and it used an entire show.

Core box of birch wood. And then we use like three or four shoulder boxes, full of slime to use the leaves. It's just as massive, ugly, ugly tree. Is that what you use? Yeah, slime and Birch. See, I didn't notice the perch. I have to check that out. Again, the thumbnails really dark? Yeah. Yeah. You can't tell on this thumbnail? Yeah, but I had mentioned that was like, oh, para and Jimbo's prank looked pretty at least until now here.

I am with the ugliest tree ever made, it's like, yeah, well, he's going to rip this down the second. He sees it anyway, so yeah, I guess my the prank you did on me, is it? Technically ugly now and it's the second you get into starting to use your storage room. You're going to rip it down to write yours is more of Prank of you not being there for so long. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, you left your base abandoned. So mmm, we made it. Look abandoned right again.

None of these pranks were Hard. Clean up stuff, slime is going to be super easy. You just punch it breaks perch words. Going to take a little bit but the slimes you a maid took me about two and a half hours to get away. Anyways. So yeah, that took a while, I'm probably not going to take that long. Come on up. Looking at the picture. Know if you take longer than 15 minutes, clean your prank up. You doing something wrong? Yeah, I am going to make a scene out of it, that's for sure.

Yeah, I will say your prank only took me an omni about 20 minutes to put together Paris prank took about 2 hours and recording time. Mmm. And I had to condense those two hours to like a minute and a

half time lapse. Yeah. So yeah, that that one clip to A lot of work this whole episode to episode 38 for me is probably one of my most edited videos and I don't think anyone's going to be able to even tell that it's highly edited edited because I took a lot of time trying to make the edits smooth and precise and I'll take like a five-minute clip of me talking. And I ended up chopping it in multiple places to make it only like two minutes talking.

Mmm, I'm going to look for that. Yeah, see if I notice see. If you can see it, you'll find a spot where it took just a little bit jerky. You'll see my guy change direction. Just to smallest amount. Yeah, they can do to me in the editing that you've done. Yeah, I do it occasionally, I can't get my words right but other than that, I've been working on my streaming stuff.

I've been wanting to get back into streaming that was a little bit more ref because I do all my overlays and stuff like that by hand and it it doesn't come naturally. Lie to me, it takes me a lot like, designing, a thumbnail for

a season. Takes me a good day or two to put together so overlays do the same especially when I'm trying to like have numbers moving on the screen and make it look interesting without covering up. A lot of the fun stuff to look at and throw in a Susie Cam, that uses an odd Dimension because I'm using an old webcam. That's at an angle. Yeah. It's going to take a little more time than a thumbnail. Yeah, I've got new color schemes

and everything in place. Now, it's just getting the couple design Works done and it's coming up with the new stream time. Saturday mornings, got really rough for me because I was doing a lot of housework, mmm. And Saturday mornings are a good time to do. All the housework and stuff like that. Thinking about, maybe going back to Friday night, that's where I would used to scream a lot. Okay, we'll see. We'll find out. I've got, I've got a fly in my office. Hang on, get it.

It's like the first fly this summer in my house. What the I'd rather have flies and mice and snakes, I'll do. I got those mice. Figured out. My house is spotless. Nice, says the fly. The one fly because I know what the fly came for. It came from, I was grilling steak, and I was in and out of the back door. Oh, all afternoon. Yeah, that's where that came from. But other than that, I played a lot of dungeons, but we're going to save a lot of the dungeon talk for our post show.

So if you guys want to listen to that, I think it's a dollar a month for the A show which is a pretty good deal. Yeah, we're going to be talking dungeons here in the future. Hmm. We have a Dungeons developer on the show. Here's coming up soon and we want to get in this. We want to get some dungeons in. We want to experience this game to the fullest. There's been so many DLCs the come out with it.

I haven't played any of the DLCs you've been playing a little bit of it. I tried to download or tried to buy it just now and I And for some reason, because of my card is acting up some kind of error. Maybe's, operator are probably but I'll figure it out and hopefully we can stream it. Yeah, we were talking about that. Maybe get a stream in, that'd be nice. But yeah, what have you been up to this week Jimbo? I like dominate that conversation for like s last 8

minutes you go ahead. Well, we were just covered your week but I've still yet to record anything. Yeah, well we just got finished up at work with our big job that we were doing where I was working weekends and late days and we finally finished it and now we're just cleaning, we cleaned it up this week and this weekend would be ideally ideal time for me to record. It was my 10-year anniversary.

Mmm, with my wife. So we went to Pittsburgh state up there in a real nice hotel and then you know went out to eat just had a good time. Out at Pittsburgh. And that's pretty much where I spent my Friday and Saturday. And here we are Sunday went this morning to a Bow Shoot and now recording mmm. I got a lot of cleaning up to do too because I have a, my fantasy football league starting up. I have a party at the house with everyone involved in the league.

No man. Yeah, so I got to get ready for that to a lot on my plate right now. But I have an idea. I talk to you a little bit about About the episode. I plan on coming out to where I actually come back and there will be some Duds Jimbo collabing. Yes. Yes. We kind of have it figured out. I do want to mess with the, you know, the story line a little bit but I have things in place already already messed up like

seven minutes. I lost seven minutes of recording time when my computer went down and I lost a bunch of stuff so I have to start from scratch and it's just it's a hassle but I have a pretty good idea. Of what to do. And I'm going to really take my time and edit, like you mentioned. I'm going to try to on a bring back those different editing techniques that I was doing, where I had how to, some of my best episodes. And I want to try to bring that back and use that a lot more. Yeah.

In this episode. So it's I want to make it something like a mega episode. I might even mention this last week, be honest. You did. Yeah, so yeah a little bit longer than usual. Ooh, but I want to cover everything that I missed. You know, that people missed out on, they didn't miss out on much because I really haven't been on. But what you did miss out on, I would like to cover it and get a lot of work done. That's the whole reason.

You got pranked, by the way, is because you were on at one point. And then, what was you an omni I hopped on said? Hi. I'm Nate said hi. And you didn't say anything back to me. I did. Yeah, 10 minutes later you signed off. I went Jimbo didn't acknowledge me and And then obvious like okay, let's prank him. I didn't even realize what I think is I said I think I said we should prank him. Not means like yes he was all for some pranking Abdi did that too? He said hi.

And I didn't even notice like when I get on the surfer, I immediately say hi to people. And then when people jump on, sometimes I don't notice that. They're jumping on. It's down in the corner. I'm dazed the confused, you know, in my mind. Pretty much just not paying attention. You ignored me and the walrus. You deserve to be pranked ya. I ignored him to maybe, not that time, but either earlier, that day or another day, but I noticed, he said, like, three things to me and Chad, and I

didn't say anything back. I'm like, oh man, albany's on didn't realize it. No, but yeah, when I would jump on it be like you know to plant things to plan out, what's going on. Next, you know, maybe throw some blocks down, get an The of what the next build is going to be or how things are going to look. But besides that, I, you know, I haven't been on and been playing much but playing on changing

that here soon. Yeah, before we move into the news, I wanted to bring up something that my roommate came across. So he was coming to me saying my games crashing, I was like, okay, well, you're doing something wrong because he's had more Minecraft issues and glitches that I've ever seen out of any Minecraft player of all time, and he plays job. Right right? He's like this happened. When I tried to build this farm and I was like no, that didn't happen.

That's physically impossible to game, can't do that. So anyways, when you told me about this glitch, I made him physically. Repeat the process and show me what was going on and I was able to break it down into. There is a real glitch and it's when you're trading with villagers. So your villager is not at max

level yet. So he was trading glass with a cartographer and A never that Qatar refer XP would not want to say max out because it's not maxed out would become full and ready to level up. You know how they get the little purple swirl or over their head? Yeah whenever that happened, the game would crash and I thought it was really weird and I was like, okay, it doesn't happen until physically, those purple swirl swirls popped over the head.

If you could jump out of the Villager you could jump back into Ooh, the Villager to trade before those purple Swirls. And you were fine, but if you saw the purple swirls done game crashes and found out, it's an OptiFine thing. If he would, if he got out of OptiFine, went into just the regular mode or regular launcher, worked fine. So, we went ahead and updated his OptiFine to the newest. It's still a pre-release, but the newest OptiFine and the

glitch still happened. Ah, so Something with OptiFine and villager trading. If anyone's having that issue try taking off Define off. Now it's not happening if a villager is already maxed out if you've already trade or traded with them a ton, then it doesn't matter because his villagers that are max. Level aren't a problem. All of my villagers are max level and I couldn't replicate it either but it seems to be whenever you trade with them enough to level them up that it would crash.

Hmm. Yeah that's a pretty inconvenient. Yeah. At first I thought Thought it was like all the XP you get from the voters because he had it, where did none of the XP could get out? As like, you understand, there's a ton of exit XP orbs Behind These villagers. He's like nah, you break the chest and or the work table in front of them. You just your doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo doo-doo-doo-doo-doo? It's like, yeah, doesn't villagers. Give you a lot of XP now, don't leave that sit in there.

Yeah, if you guys are having game crashes with trading with villagers, and you're using OptiFine and get rid of OptiFine to see if that fixes it for you. Yeah. Or shout out to optic. And fix your class. Yeah like I said, I couldn't replicate it online, but all my villagers are max level. So and I wasn't going to get a new Village or to breed just to test the glitch and then kill me. Yeah, right. Anyways, so we move on to the news because we had some news.

Yeah, a little bit. Literally, like, one day before we put out last week's episode, here's experimental, snapshot for mmm. Kind of have a feeling it's going to happen again. By the time you guys here as talk about for Our mental snapshot 5 will probably have coming out probably but one of the things we mentioned last week got changed. We talked about how we liked desert temples being partially buried. Mmm, they are. Yeah, they're back to being

buried there. Not a, they're not super buried, and they're not level dependent. I don't think. No, it doesn't sound like, it doesn't look like at least. Yeah, other changes is Desert and jungle temples won't be spawning on water anymore. Yeah, it does. I doubt you see him on like Cliffs or Mountain type of. Yeah. High elevation possibly but I don't see him at a certain why level every time he said. So it looks like correct snowy. Slopes are less dirty for real

this time. So more snow less dirt. This is we should get prettier stuff. I think stone is actually taking place of the dirt and all that, I'm thinking about it, think that's what they had said. Look the higher up the Morais you'll find also. So you're not going to find any dirt up there. Well, one of the things they had changed to was the what I called the freeze line where you start to get snow accumulating on like Treetops and buildings and everything.

They actually raise that up higher so you wouldn't have to worry about snow as much landing on your builds or Tree Tops or something like that because I remember that was an issue. Ripple season to my base wasn't actually High in the air, but the top of it always got snow on it. So I was placing string around to keep Snow from getting in trees and stuff. Yeah. And sometimes actually most of the time snow can be more annoying than rain. Yeah yeah.

Rain can be it, can mess up your view and stuff but it's not going to leave a physical layer of water on the ground, right? Like snow will, mmm, so that can be annoying. I'm come, that's a good change. Yeah, no, I like a change. Yeah in the warmer biomes like that surface freezing it's just gone. They went ahead and got rid of it. So like desert Badlands Savannah I don't think it matters at what height anymore you like you cannot get any snow or whatever in those areas period.

Good sounds about right. Sounds right. Even the like this shattered? Savannah. Well yeah, I don't know for sure. They didn't go over that and this is experimental. Yeah, whether or not it's working. Correctly right now. I don't know. And they're those shatter ones can get a high. Why level at times? So yeah I mean they literally just says removed surface freezing for hot biomes. That's the note. But watching sliced lime fly

through the new snapshot. If you guys haven't seen his video it's like three and a half. Four minute long and it goes over everything in detail super quick to and gives great shots of the mountain terrain and everything like that. Yeah, it looks real nice. Nice. And I really like, what they've done with the generations of different Stones, like they reduce the number of diorite and andesite and granite blobs on the surface. It kind of gives it a more

clean. Look, they're actually, well, there's actually more I think on the surface now but they're laid out in a way where they're longer strips more so than blobs. Yeah, they're not as blob blob. Like, right. Makes it so they it looks way. More natural. It doesn't look like I think the phrase they use last time with someone was spray-painting an area. Mmm. Yeah, it doesn't have that look to it.

It's really nice. Mmm, they also included calcite yes to expose layers in the at least a mountain area, right? And see that was one of my talks that I love calcite, but it did feel a little on the harder side to get not super hard because I Obviously, you can find these geodes, pretty easily and 117, but limited, but it is a limited thing.

So now that we're finding them and surface areas, I think you're going to see Server setting up Quarry areas where you can dig out the calcite and stuff. Yeah, hopefully we can get traders that, you know. Can ya trade you some calcite? At least would be nice. Yeah, that's how I've used. Most of my Court's decision is trading with villagers. I could see calcite becoming very Popular. I mean it already is.

So it's a beautiful block. Be nice to find another way to use it her to get more to me it's a cleaner diorite. Yeah I always saw it as solid as like a smooth that I write, not so much as a policy we have polished but like a smooth die, right? Yeah, let's see. Extreme Hills, they made the train less. Uh, next ream. So yeah. Yeah. Whenever that means, I guess, More extreme would be the better way unless it it became less extreme after a snapshot so they had to make it more extreme from

that. I don't know. I think it has to do with you know, them raising the why level probably like it would be extreme extreme if they were to take it to that limit. Probably look crazy because I love building an extreme Hills. And I can't tell you the amount of times I've traveled 5,000 blocks for an extreme Hills biome. Just to see that the tallest hill was 20 blocks tall and it's like, that's not extreme that. That's a Foothill. Yeah, hopefully we get bigger

than that. Yeah. As someone who lives in the Foothills, that's a Foothill. Hmm. Yes. Up very big. Now, I mean and so many biome tweaks, like swamps are now swamp here. So these swamps were tweaked just a little bit. Mainly to keep swamps from extending far out into the ocean. So, they're kind of Stay closer to the Shoreline and the water levels in the swamps will be more shallow. So that'll be really nice down to MMM. Yeah. Usually seem connected to Rivers. Hmm. Yeah.

And along along oceans. Yeah, so that's not, that's not a thing in real life. There's not too many connected to the ocean. They are but they don't extend far out into the ocean. Okay. That's what they mean. Yeah, ocean water. Kind of takes over right? Pushes a swamp back. Makes it more beachy yes, won't be plus I think I'm trying to remember my time in Florida, like swamp water is mostly fresh water. I think.

Yeah, it is. So you wouldn't have freshwater swamp merging with a saltwater ocean, right? Without some brackish water in between it's rare enough. Anyways, you won't have that Hardline 50 blocks out into the ocean where there's a swamp. Mmm. Now, I wonder, are they going to change river water color because Member that still like a bright blue when it run through a swamp, is it? Yeah, at least. That's the way I remember it. I haven't been in a swamp much

this season. I was right along a river in a swamp, but I never owned a never really looked at it. Now that you mentioned. Have to go take a look and see if that's the case. Yeah, I'm not too sure. I thought like, once the river flowed into the swamp area, it was swampy water, but I could be wrong. I think it does make sense, you know, Rivers colliding with swamps, pretty sure. That's how That works real life, they reworked microbiome collisions and all that kind of

stuff. So, no more, or I should say, less microbiomes were a cure. They were working on that. Last time, that worked on it again this time. So there's that Badlands and deserts are larger and less likely to show up as microbiomes splotches, terracotta bands. Obviously, go higher now, because the raised, Is why level and Woodland or wooded Badlands grass trees, start higher. So making room for more blocks. Mmm.

Yeah, it's always annoying when you dig out terracotta and you want the plain terracotta and there's just so many different layers of colors that you're never going to use dig around them. So hopefully they widen the regular terracotta layers out. That's that's one of the reasons I've always been a fan of hermit crabs like Any terracotta can be dyed aspect makes a lot of sense for a server, especially server like them who uses an absolute ton of blocks and stuff.

Yeah, I didn't know they did that. Imagine if everyone needed terracotta and you had, you could only die that one, kind of terracotta, they'd be out in no time. Mmm. Oh yeah, as much as it use second to last item is more iron. Yeah, yeah. It's exactly where iron spawns now or is. Is going to spawn, but there's just the blob sizes are bigger. And I believe you find that, you can find that in, was it andesite? Strands visiting the site? I haven't heard iron connected to anything.

I know copper is going to be granite in the granite in irons and something I want to say it's a name the site because it's not entire right? Oh, that reminds me. I miss something copper. Blobs are now going to be in dripstone caves. Also bigger copper blogs blobs. Years. Yeah, words, so you can get copper, pretty much everywhere. Now, I mean, you find a dripstone cave, you're going to get a good bit of copper.

You can Farm it from the ground and, you know, because we have our oars dropping as Roars. Now, we're getting a lot of each or and you all you already got a bunch of iron now. They're giving you more. So, yeah, I think they're kinda offset that That iron farm and how easy it is to create right? Yeah I was just going to say that it's going to be less iron Farms. I bet not me. I'm going to have an iron far yeah.

If you don't mind as much if you do - I bet one mining session you're coming out with a good five stacks of iron. That's if you do it all my Farms are based around the fact that I just don't have the time to grind for blocks. So if I can make a farm that keeps me from having to grind, I'm doing Iron Farms are fun. Now, they are very good time but

I do mind a lot. So I might know, might go without the iron farm will see the big update, like this is one of the bigger changes that I am absolutely in love with this update. And it's reduced the likelihood of rivers being cut off and turning into steep Dry River, Gorges. Instead, they're going to end up cutting fjords through mountain range, or raise the train to. Orm saddle, valleys between the Peaks. It looks so good, trying to think of where this part was.

I can't think of that spot. It's hard for me. I can just tell you, if you wanted an example of what it was like before hand my season to base, you know, the back bridge that went to where my tree shopping area was yeah, half of the bridge covered a river and then it went into this dry riverbed. I ended up having to cut out a lot of it and fill it with water by hand to make it a complete River. Okay. So now we're not going to get that as much. We're going to get actual Rivers.

Yeah. Going through Mountain areas. Okay. Yeah. They a lot of them cut off. Yes they do. It's annoying when you're trying to boat around and you can't get through because the river stops. Yes you go. Another five blocks, put down your boat again. Jump back in the river. Yeah, always seemed unnecessary. Yep. It's a good fix. It really is and it's a beautiful one. Mmm. Yeah. The video we watched they did have shaders.

He did have shaders on. Yes, made it look really nice, but I really enjoying all the new changes in the experimental updates. I still wanna see it for myself though. Still have to get it. You gotta play Minecraft first, you know to yeah. Well actually you got to play Dungeons now so yeah. Oh man, what am I gonna do? So much, you're already three levels behind me your that your level 3 actually. I'm level 4. No, but I've only played three

levels. I ended up going back and playing the first or creeper Woods. I think is what it's called like three times trying to find all the loot or whatever till I realized that, they probably block off parts of the map based on difficulty within. I should just come back later. Yeah. You probably right there. Yeah, but let's go into Listen, your comments as we get to comments. We're going to share with you guys. Today, I have a comment from the first, ER, am I reading that

right? The first or that's the Discord name? Yeah. Dance. Do you think that Minecraft music is missing in some areas especially in the most climatic moments in the game like beating the ender dragon? Or will new more complex music that fleshes out? Missing areas will take away from the classic Nostalgia. It's a tough one. Mmm. Can see, we're after being the dragon, you would like some kind of climatic movement or music. The problem is, is getting that trigger that plays a music. Yeah.

Because Minecraft is such a huge sandbox that anything can be done at basically any time. So to be able to cue music at certain points, would get a little tough, right? Yeah. I was just thinking music, while fighting the Ender Dragon could give you more of a, I don't know. Of a rush while fighting the dragon. Then again, there are times where you got to fight the dragon over and over and over to open up and Gates and it could possibly get annoying.

Yep. And like you said, sometimes you're not there to fight the dragon. Yeah, sometimes you're there to go out into the end and if you go and you start hearing that music, it doesn't really relate to what you're doing. So, yeah, you're yeah. There's like a trigger that needs to be pulled for certain times when music needs to play. Right now. They just have, you know, while you're playing it randomly plays, if I'm not mistaken. I see.

I don't know, because as YouTubers, I turn the music all the way off. Yes, I'm here because I have to put my own music over that during the episode. So, most of my background music in my episode is Minecraft music, but because of editing and chopping and recording and stuff, the music won't line up. So you have to put music over top of What would already be game music? Yeah, when you're making a video is nothing more annoying than something completely cutting off.

Like, if you were playing the game, hmm. You hear the music in the background and you cut one thing. You're cutting a piece of that music which is really noticeable, going to be noticeable in a video. So yeah, maybe maybe that's part of it too. Maybe they you know, include the video makers or the creators when they think about putting the music. The only thing I could think of, as a way to change it, for the better would be. If you watch decoys all I'd ever did series.

He has music specific for locations, mmm, and that's really good, but decoy is really good at making music. So the music fits the location like flawlessly, it all feels natural, right? I would love something like that. But again, as I'm recording and making YouTube, I have to turn my music off. Anyways. Yeah. Wish I could make music like that would be nice. All right. But next question is from fragile rock. They ask, what to or object do you think is useful but underutilized either?

Because you forgot or are not in the habit of using or crafting for me? It's into pearls me personally. It's potions. Yeah, potions done right? Or extremely Opie but I don't think I have one brewing stand in my base right now and it's And used its kind of a time and a place. Yeah, we use potions. Yeah. You gotta plan for potions for me. I think it's Shields. Yeah, Shields are another one. Yeah, I always forget that I could use a shield to block, you know, any project out.

And I think I died from a skeleton with my first death almost every season, to be honest. Yeah, a shield definitely gets major uses early in the season for me. But now that I basically carry around the totem of undying the hump and not so much. Yeah, honestly a shield is probably way more useful than a totem but I have so many totems it wouldn't make sense for me not to you and you kind of you don't need a shield run around

your base. If you ride spawn, proved any everything you should be relatively safe and approaches used to be a thing where I never use them. Never realized that. I use them all the time. Yeah, this base. I To season made it so much easier to get around with ender pearls because of all the different levels and building up high and low kind of get used to them. Always have at least 16 on me, unless I start using them, but they're easy to get are easy to come by. Oh yeah.

But yeah, thank you for the comments. The first stir and fragile rock. Those comments were firm our Discord and our Discord is the only place you could submit questions for upcoming guests. Here's lower for Mojang with more information. Hello, everyone. My name is Laura, and I'm a senior game designer in the Minecraft dungeon Steam, and I'll soon be joining dots and Tebow in one of their future episodes.

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Remember to get your questions in about Minecraft dungeons in our Discord. Speaking of the Discord is the only place you can get involved in The Mending Minecraft vote this week, we asked you to choose between one of three mobs for us to discuss your choices, were butcher, dolphin, and slime. And the winner of many Minecraft this week is Slime. Yeah. Slime. One with 35 votes actually put your head 18 dolphin with 14, few things of on the Slime.

It's actually slimes pretty unique for Unique mob. Yeah, slimes are bouncy. Cube-shaped Hostile Mobs. That spawn deep underground in particular chunks or at night and swamp biomes, there are specific locations in the Overworld, where the Slime spawn called. Lime chunks, where slime spawn below, y40, regardless of light level. Also, in swamps at low light levels between why levels 50 and 70 near its near the surface. Yeah, and it doesn't have to be nighttime.

Just depends on the light level and I think didn't say here, but when the moon is full, I think you get more spawns. I'm not mistaken. I think I've heard that too, but I'm not sure. Yeah, at least that's what I was

told. Didn't see that on Wiki, I don't know, didn't really look for it. Slimes come in three different sizes, large medium or small also measured the sizes from 1 to 3 3 being the largest wind slime larger than one dies, it spawns two to four, new slimes equivalent to its size / to rounding down a slime that has was named with the name. Tag produces smaller slimes with the same name, when it dies, I didn't know that. No kept the Name I knew that I

had no idea. If he slime size is 18 drops 022 slime balls. This can be increased by one per level of looting for maximum of slime slime balls for a maximum of five slime balls. There we go. It's a tongue twister. Not really but that's all good. Yeah. So mending the Slime was actually more fun this week than the last couple weeks.

Last couple weeks, we seem to have been choosing mobs that really had no way of being mended without creating something new this week, we can they won't be like super different in any way but I think we could have some fun with slimes. Now, I want to start out by saying slime chunks kind of suck. Hmm, they're great for farming, don't get me wrong slime, Farms are incredibly Opie and awesome because of slime chunks.

That being said, Said as someone who built a base underground and had slime constantly spawning his base until he half slab. Everything they kind of suck. Yeah, that being said, one of the discussion Channel mentions, I forget who mentioned it, talked about a slime cave instead of a chunk, which I really enjoyed to me, that seems like a better fix, obviously, we're not talking about fixing slime chunk talk about fixing slime, but it was such a good idea.

I wanted to At least mention it, there's that. But one of the fixes for the Slime is, I'd love to see different colored slime, maybe based on the biome, they spawn in the Slime can be colored coordinated to that area. Yeah they don't have to act different, they can just be slime but the ability to drop different colored slime balls or just have different color slime in general.

Like I said all of it, can function exactly the same but just the fact that you can catch different colors, A slime and put them in a windowed box and watch them. Bounce around. Seems really fun to me. Yeah, another idea I had is slime. Should have a fear like haugland and Penguins. They're scared of the Warped, mushroom or whatever. It's called fungi, maybe slime has and something like that. It scared of maybe it's like sand.

Maybe maybe slime doesn't like sand or gravel or some gravity falling block because of the next thing I have What if slime could jump on an item? And it would suck the item up kind of like how I've is zombie walks over a loose item. It can pick it up and carry it, that'd be cool. Yeah. So a slime would jump on a loose item in it, which pick it up and you could see it like inside the Slime. And then whenever you would kill the Slime it would end up dropping the item.

Yeah, wouldn't despawn either with the item in it? Correct. So if I sign where to jump over sand and gravel would be like, oh now I'm covered in sand. And yeah, it's stupid. And these weren't going to make the slime super different or super cool, but they were just like fun little things. I would love to see happen to slime. You make it even more Derpy. Exactly. As it is already, the Slime is one of my favorite looking mobs in the game.

Hmm. And it's nothing, it's not a special looking mob, but it's such a great creative Derpy looking mob. Yet that face. It's like this. Writer. Everyone is like the Striders ugly but it's so ugly. It's cute. And that's the way slime are to me. Yeah, you're right. Well, I know. I'm right. They didn't look like a hostile mob. No, they don't. They look like, you know, something you could cuddle with. Hmm. But yeah, they're not that nice. Now, they're not like the big

ones are act. They hit pretty hard. You're not careful. Yeah. I've been killed by slime. Yeah, I'm looking for the Slime caves real quick. It was a chimpanzee. Ain't there we go. Age of paint? Yes, mention some kind of new cave by. Mm, yeah, there we go. Yeah. It's on bad suggestion. No, yeah, I was looking for soon as you mentioned it and you didn't know the name as like a better find out who that is is that kind of like it.

I was going to be like Jimbo. Go find it but I didn't want to sound. Like I was being bossy, anything cause I'm on it. I was on it. Awesome. But that's all I have for slime unless you have something Jimbo her, I was going to suggest different color slime bag. Lee. Oh, there we go. You guys see you had it on your notes then being by him specific would be a great way to make

them different colors. I was thinking they could spawn different colors of possibly the slime blocks, even though it's not technically the Slime but make those, you know, diable, but it's not technically the mob. Yeah, I mean, how could it be again, doesn't change the functionality of a slime block at all. You just can't change it to whatever. What color you want? Hmm. Granted that adds like 16 new blocks to the game right. You got to watch out for that but yeah, that should we move on

to our main topic. Sure. Our main topics coming from king bee dogs. Twitter. That seems to be where we get a lot of our topics lately but he had put out a tweet asking if you could choose. Would you prefer to flesh out the deep dark as a biome or the warden as a mob, which one was more important to us, and We go any deeper than this then you got to play on words. They deeper than the deep dark. Yeah, I'm using my words perfectly this time.

We don't know enough about either one of them to really give a good solid answer, I'll put out there. Yeah, everything can change with the more information we know as of right now, I think we know more about the warden than we do. The deep dark, right? I'm a huge fan of the warden. I want to see the Warden, I want to fight the warden. You know, I want to interact with it. I want to know what it does, what its mechanics, or to sit respawn. It's just it's Unique, you know, it doesn't see.

It could only hear from the vibrations. I want to see it so bad, but as saying that I would rather have the biome just because of all the new blocks, the new look, I want to feel the deep dark, you know, not just see it, but feel The way it's made. Then again it wouldn't be as dangerous without the warden. Yeah, I'm going to go out there before I say my answer that other than the skulk blocks. I don't think the deep dark sea going to bring any new blocks

that we have seen. Haven't seen it yet. So I don't think we're going to get much newer other than skulk blight being said, I would also choose biome just because to me once you've faced a mob 510 times, the fight becomes super routine when it comes to Minecraft. Yeah. The only time it doesn't become routine is when you get swarmed by hordes of mobs and it doesn't look like you're going to fight a horde of warden. Yeah, we're that first fight that first interaction.

Yeah. But once you get past that it's the same. So unless you're going to be farming Warden, which as of right now, they're not dropping anything. So it's really not worth it to kill. The warden is well worth it to Sneak around, but we don't know where were sneaking around.

For obviously, if I'm going to go sneaking around the deep dark, with this big giant guy, who can smash my face into many pieces, the got to be some good loot there and honestly other than in cities, a lot of these areas for loot are not worth the hassle. Yeah, but the deep dark has a chance to be a more fleshed-out area and even how I put this every area or every Temple every biome and stuff, it all changes with World Generation, so they're never identical.

The structure itself might be identical, but some of it might be buried. So might not be buried part of, it could be floating and if this is an actual biome instead of a structure, it's going to be even more tweaked based on generation. Did it. So that means, every time you go into the deep dark, it's different, which to me is way more interesting than fighting the same mob for the Time. Hmm. I would like to see larger deep dark areas like yeah.

Like your you are going to run into one at y5 or what is it - 60 or however, logos the lowest till you get to the Bedrock area. Well, that's just that we don't know for sure. We don't know enough about the deep dark. We only see the little piece of the deep. Dark is like one little corner. Actually a little looting area. Everything right now is an experimental. Snapshots anything can change. Everything could change? Yeah, as of right now, in the

ground, we have our mine shafts. You might run into a, what is it? Where the end is? Oh my God, I can't believe I forgot stronghold. I keep forgetting the name of it to the stronghold. There's not, there's not much to explore. B'sides caves, unless you run into something like that, the Deep. It'd be nice for the deep dark to be an extension of something to explore. You know, that has branches of it and I don't know. Like I said, I would like to see it bigger.

Yeah. If possible don't make it one hallway is what you're saying? Yeah. I don't want like a strip of a biome down there. I don't think it is. I think it's going to be things. Going to be like a maze. You're going to have to try to find. Find your way around. That's yeah, that's the way I would like it to be. Hmm. Now, having said that it'd be nice like the warden. If he could attack you think it would be this way if it would attack any mob that you know,

made vibrations. It looked like it didn't attack the spiders, I'm not mistaken. I think it was spiders that were crawling around. It didn't really get aggro over, but it would be nice to use for farming capabilities and mechanics. If the warden would attack other mobs that made vibrations, it could be way more useful in that way. I think they're going to yeah, I don't see. Why wouldn't ya?

The vibration has to be over a certain level I think because they remember there are playing with skulk sensor vibration levels or whatever they're going to. They use a different word than vibrations but I think that's what's going to happen because I was like well the way I would attack a wardens go in there with a bunch of chicken eggs, start chucking them around wherever I don't want. To be. Yeah, that's how I get around the warden. Yeah, they mentioned snowballs

anything. Yeah. Anything that could make a vibration. But I think we're on the same page where we'd rather have a biome that a mob. Hmm. Now, I don't think it would be the same without the warden. No, it wouldn't be as dangerous. Now, I'm not saying get rid of the warden at all. Yeah, I'm just saying if you were going to put, if you said, all right I only have Let's use a stupid number. Let's use five hours. I have five hours to work on this biome and the warden.

I'm going to put two hours into this and three hours into that, which one gets the three. I would hope it's the biome. Yeah, that's the way I was. I was going to me, biomes change, everything. They're not going to be the exact same finding hiding spots from wardens based on terrain generation is going to be big. Yeah, and what we know of right now, you know, these deep dark areas There are little cave openings with your loot chest. We don't know what's in the chest. We know.

There are no candles scattered about. So it is there is some kind of life down there or used to be. I don't see the warden going around placing candles. Maybe there's some lore of the candles but it is like a dim lit place kind of hoping they implement the zero light level spawns. You know, it has to be 0. So 27 I have a feeling Going to see mob spawning underneath a certain level cut off, because remember, they're changing how

moms are spawning right now? Mmm, making a mob far closer to zero doesn't help increase rates anymore, right? So you can put them off arm anywhere. And I have a feeling they're doing that because like, all right under why - 25 nothing. Sponsor. Unless it's a warden that was just going to mention that you imagine going into the deep dark there being a warden. Also 20 other mobs because it's so dark.

The warden would be be occupied. Yeah, it just get distracted so I don't think they're going to want that. I think they're going to want just you versus the wardens your job to outsmart it yay could be right there or maybe you know the candles are little more abundant maybe they do try to light it up a little bit more have less spawns or maybe just make it very rare at the bottom that they spawn. No, that's still up in the air. We just don't know yet.

Yeah, we just don't have enough information. It's a great opinion. Tweet to put out there. I want to say the last time I checked on it, 85% of people agreed with me and you and it was do the biome over the warden. Yeah. How many of those people were choosing that? Because we know such little about the deep dark.

I don't know, but as someone who plays the game for hours, upon hours, upon hours years, on years on years, The mobs get super tiring and super repetitive relatively quickly once I have full gear, unless it's a giant horde or I do something incredibly stupid. I'm not dying to a mob. Yeah. Now, obviously don't even wrong the wardens, a completely different beast and can basically knock you out in one hit. But once you figure out how to beat a warden, I'm sure you just

going to keep doing that. Same way to beat it over and over again, like the reason we cheese Withers and All that stuff nowadays. It's like, yeah, you do one where their fight naturally, and then after that, forget that women put his head in Bedrock and we're going to get the nether star so we can move on. Yeah. Or Enderman or in termina pretty easy to take care of. Yep. I died to Enderman so many times

in my storage room before. I realize I could just stand in the lake in the middle of my storage room and hit their ankles and call it done. Mmm. See unless I'm incredibly stupid, the mob won't kill me. You know. I was I was just thinking You know, well maybe they give Warden a weakness like that here, the guy can't see. So that's probably the weakness

blind. I mean, maybe the weakness is, it doesn't like Bright Lights. Yeah, so what if you start lighting things up, where rabbits rabbits it does have a thing for rabbits, maybe it really hates bees. That'd be funny. Oh, so you're basically saying the wardens a giant Jimbo. Yeah. It's like a giant. It's a jumbo jumbo. It can't see. That's just like the normal Jimbo right. I'm partially blind so, but I don't get around on vibration. I just pictured.

You going into the deep dark facing a warden face-to-face, and you both go brother jimbob. Give him a big hug here. He took care of the bees. I'm sure he would give you a big hug to and squish you against the ceiling. I hope it attacks bees. I can use it. You in the hatred for B's man I'm going to fight. There's got to be a mob. It's going to take care of the bees for me. So I don't have to eventually it's called water. That's not a mob do but it'll

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