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Episode 104: Experimenting with Caves and Cliffs

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In this episode, DuDs and Jimbo discuss the first experimental snapshot of Minecraft 1.18, Caves & Cliffs, which includes changes to the light level in which monsters can spawn, Integrates mountains, caves, and cave entrances, and adds natural variation in terrain shape and elevation, independently of biomes. Plus, we have listener comments from Beanman about favourite, least favourite, and most disappointing updates, KitKittyCat2 about favourite atmospheric addition to 1.17, and two questions from High Hopes about what types of Minecraft content our hosts like to watch. Also, in response to a tweet from kingbdogs, DuDs and Jimbo share ideas on how to transition away from the F3 screen for coordinates, biome boundaries and more.


Minecraft 1.18 Snapshot: https://minecraft.net/en-us/article/new-world-generation-java-available-testing

kingbdogs tweet: https://twitter.com/kingbdogz/status/1415247601922883588

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Transcript

Hey everyone, welcome to weathering effect episode 10 for today's date is July 18, 20 21 and I am Duds versus known to the rest of the interwebs and I'm Jimbo you may know me as Jimbo slice 23 they we got a really big show. Yes. Said that we It's probably going to be Regular Show when Carl gets done with it, it'll be the size of her. Yeah, it'll be a Regular Show. So what have you been up to this week? Cursing, yellow, flying things. This is that what I think it is?

Yeah, we'll start with what I did in Minecraft real quick because I worked on a project. I'm super excited for it's called Fisherman's Cove. I think I mentioned it. Last episode, I was working on it and I ended up finishing it Friday. And I am just in love with the final outcome. And that's mainly because of must block Moss, block is awesome. Mmm, and I I use just a tiny bit curious, how it looks. Yeah, it's the perfect little detail.

I'm super excited with that. That episode should have come out, Monday for everyone. Who's listening to the show on Wednesday or later? Spoiler alert for me because it's Sunday. Yeah, yeah, I haven't got to see it yet. I know we're in the same server, we're not too close, but usually I get a heads up on what you're building on the next episode, but I haven't been over there in a while. Kind of curious to see what looks like. It's pretty good.

I want to do a couple armor stands over there, but I knew the armor stands had been kind of buggy on the server since we updated. So I'm kind of waiting for that to be flushed out. I think it is flushed out now but I just want some confirmation to make sure it's good. Okay. Other than that. That, if you're part of the stream crew, that comes and joins my streams, every Saturday morning, you notice, I haven't been screaming much lately.

That being said, I streamed this Saturday because of ripple effect livestream day. Yeah, it's not true. You just dreamed. Yeah. Well, that was a prior engagement. Basically, I'm trying to revamp My Stream up at least once or twice a year. I try to refresh the stream and I'm noticing now that covid. 'Z kind of Dying down a little bit. People are starting to do a lot of stuff on Saturdays. When I'm generally streaming the time I chose was because everyone was at home not doing

anything. So I was like at least I'll bring somebody some entertainment. Well, now, everyone's doing stuff so the guy should probably choose a different time to stream now, so might do that a bit but yeah, I'm reworking the the panels and overlays and stuff like that. So I always have fun doing that though. It's not that big of a deal. Yeah, it's not bad. I enjoyed also. Yeah, this weekend's been super busy as I had to fix my ductwork. I know I mentioned this.

While me and my dad had been working on the the air conditioning in the house. Well, I needed some new dampers for a couple pieces of duct work. Those finally came in. So I did that this morning, I put new door stoppers for my office doors because they the handles were smacking, the walls. This, I can't have that. That's a brand new wall.

So I got some door stoppers and then I went to mow the yard last week and the fence gate fell off the post like the nails and everything that were holding it in weren't deep enough and the woods, 20 years old. So it had dry rotted a bit it just fell off. Yep. So that was the big project to do after I had done on the instant because you want to get the attic work and stuff done early in the morning because it get hot. Hot. Right was doing that.

Got almost done had to run to the hardware store, I come back as I'm working. I feel a little pinch in the back of my leg. I don't think anything of it because I was wearing my compression socks. I wear those everyone. So on they cover basically my entire leg so I was like yeah whatever. I probably just smacked a thorn or whatever because I have those in that area. So anyways I come inside, I tell you hey I'm going to run jump in the shower real quick decide

that if I'm going to reuse. A shower, I might as well watch the dog because my dog stinks. So she got a bath and as I'm sitting down to bathe the dog, I go to take my compression socks off because I don't want to wear those into the shower because I've got like a little bench seat. So I can sit in the shower as I'm cleaning her. Hmm, I look down. There's a yellow jacket. Stuck in my leg. Wow, the whole time.

It had stabbed me in the back of the leg and then got stuck in my compression sock and couldn't get free. Mmm. So for example, A good 35 minutes. This bug has been stuck in the back of my leg just stinging. Pumping you with poison pumping, evil, evil needless to say it met its maker called the toilet

and I flushed him. But yeah, I sat there and I was in the shower and he got me good because it blood just continue to run down the back of my leg, wound up having to go get a bandage and put it on after I got in the shower Zoo, one staying or Was he able to get you a couple? Just one sting? Yeah, he got me the one time and it just stuck in there and stayed in there. Yeah. Usually they could only get you once because you know, the Stinger falls out and then they

don't make it after that. I got stung by a bumblebee a few times and it was caught on my shirt and I freaked out a sort of run around the house. I ran around the house for like, two minutes. Just that Screamin and yellin top of my lungs and it was on my shirt, all I have to do is like wipe it off my shirt. It stung me three times yeah during that lap. Yeah. So those those will get you multiple times. Yeah, but this means there's a yellow jacket Hive somewhere in

my yard. I've got to find and destroy because this is getting ridiculous. The fact that I can't go into my yard without getting stung and they always get you. The back of the leg is like what kind of wuss are you? You can't face me man, to be that they get me on my back most of time. Yeah. Like a little punks needless to say, I got The gate Fink's fixed temporarily, that was a bit of a

pain at some point. I'm just going to have to rip it down and put a new one up, but I don't have that kind of money right now. So it's at least fix. Where opens and closes without falling off the post? That's good. Yeah, other than that, I've had a pretty calm week. What about you Jimbo? What do you been up to? Well, I went back to work this week. Mmm, finally, you have been out of work because of my eye injury different surgeries and whatnot.

Then a cataract. Just everything had to get cleared to where I was medically able to go back and I'm back back to work. I'm feeling a lot better. Still working out and stuff try to get to the gym beforehand. Second day back at work. I was stung by a bee. Yeah, good figure and right I didn't know you got stung too. Yeah I got stung by freaking be went at work safety-wise, You Gotta Wear Yellow Fest. Hmm. And this yellow vest attract Bees.

Okay, another reason why I don't like bees now, that's not my fault. I'm not asking for it, you know. I don't want them to come after my yellow vest but I was come out of my truck. I had to drive a couple hours away to drop some stuff off to accrue and I get back in my truck to go leave. There is one on my back and I sat back in my seat and it, stung me. I'm like what you have got to be kidding me. Like the second day back, I It stung by freaking be. Oh my God. So that's three.

Stings between the two of us in one week, right? Yeah. Wow. There's there's that. Glad to be back at work, though. Glad to have ya doing something, it kind of got in it. Kinda what am I? What am I trying to say? Here, it got involved with my recording time. Mmm, Yeah. I'm not able to record as much, but I did record a little bit. This week also I started my episode. I'm trying to on my megabase, I have those four Towers in in the middle.

Have a smaller Tower. Yeah, and I'm trying to do the design, the Dome design for the smaller Tower. I want it to stand out, it's the middle point of my base. I wanted to look cool and I'm hitting like a creative block right now. So, my plan is when I hit these creative blocks, I like to go online and see if I can find. And something that really sparks my interest or Sparks that

creativeness again. Yeah. Oh yeah maybe just Google Dome Towers or Dome designs or something like that and see if I can piece that together but yeah that's that's about it for miweek. I got really tan out in the sun. Yeah. And he's huge Tan Lines. Yeah, I got like a red face red arms and In else's really white, it looks weird.

Yeah I'm kind of the same way I I'm always wearing a watch and I switched ever since I started walking I switched to one of those Fitbit W watches so I can keep track of how many miles a day I'm doing. And I wear like, the short sleeve shirt of the cutoff sleeve shirt. So my arms nice and dark and tan except for that watch is giant white ring right around. My Wrist. Yeah, always looks. Yeah, if you're good with what we've done this week, should we move on to the news?

Yep, let's move on. So we've got the 118 experimental snapshot, and that words, important because it could mean all of this makes it into 118 or none of it can make it into 118, right? So remember that kind of like it? What I'm seeing though? Yeah, that being said, I kind of hope all of it makes it into 118 I and I think I've said this multiple times in the show and people can attest to it, I was not that excited to see the

caves and cliffs update. Matter of fact, I pretty much called it the cave update because we hadn't seen a single cliff and any of the previews, what we got Cliffs now. So mmm. I'm pretty pumped about that. Seeing a lot of the natural variation and the train happen is really cool. So like the height of an area won't be Predetermined by the biome, right?

So used to be if you wanted a bit of a hill you need to run across the certain biome not going to happen anymore which that's one of the things I am Loki. Super excited for we mentioned this in the pre-show when we were talking about underutilized biomes for Base building and I love Savannah plateaus but I would love a more Greener Savanna plateau and I'm thinking maybe this natural variation could happen maybe we could get at Tyga Plateau. How cool would that be? Yeah.

Or at least some higher elevation you can flatten it out a little. Yeah. Make yourself a plateau. Exactly. Looks like it's definitely doable with this experimental. Snapshot exactly. Pretty excited about that. Yeah, they gave us the height. They gave us the depth. They gave us some biomes. Yeah. We got some new biomes. Yeah. Right here. They mentioned the lofty. Peaks snow-capped Peaks The Grove Meadow and snowy, snowy,

slopes, I haven't yet. Pinpointed those that have, you know, I meant to re-watch a zoom avoids video before we sat down, but it was so rushed on time me too. I didn't get a chance to today. Yeah, this is one of those were recording in like, mid-afternoon, which is really weird for us. But quite literally today, this weekend's been so packed for both me and Jimbo that. This is the only Only time frame really had to fit in.

What's funny, is I say, I wanted to watch exhume avoids video about it just to refresh my memory of watched it once. But then again, you found me playing on the server. When we are way past our time to record your like Jimbo, what are you doing? We're supposed to record my oh man. Yeah, I'm just recording so we were supposed to sit down at 1:00 to record. Well, I came in at 1:00 to hey I need like 30 more minutes. To watch the dog and take a shower. And you were like cool. That's fine.

I just walked through the door. So I said okay 25 minutes later I'm down, I sit down, I go. Are you ready? And he doesn't respond back 10 minutes after that I post a question mark you ready doesn't respond back and I can see on the Discord that he's at his computer because it hasn't fallen asleep when you sitting right here. And so I joined the server and sure enough, he's sitting, there he goes. Oh you waiting on me. Yeah, I'm waiting on you. Are you ready or not?

It does. I'm sitting here waiting on you and now so yeah, that was kind of funny. Yeah, we didn't get around to watch exhume avoids video, but we do have a bunch of notes here to refresh ourselves. Yeah, but one of the notes is new or distribution they put out another chart guys, honestly, I'm not going to talk about or distribution again until it's done. Yeah, it's probably going to change specially experimental. Yeah, it seems. Every update, there's a new or

distribution. And every time I look at that chart, I only see, slight changes. Yeah. Nothing too big. So it to me, it's not enough to keep bringing up on the show until it's finalized when it's finalized, and that's the new way, it's going to be. Then we'll bring up, we'll talk about it, but on the snapshots, I'm just going to kind of skip over it from now. Mmm, just because it's really going to change again the next week. Yeah, they deep. They did show those larger

veins. Mmm. I thought we were going to get those in 117. Yeah, but they're waiting for those I even did that I was like oh there's granted here. Mmm, I'm going to dig out this granite and find some copper because that's where the copper or grows in those large Granite veins. But no, they showed it for the 118 which I'm a pretty big fan of I like that. Yeah, I definitely like the large or veins and I like the fact that you thought that Lush caves were in 117, that was funny.

That was so Last month. Yeah let's see. We got the new cave generation cheese. Spaghetti noodle making me hungry. Where's my pasta? Ya Basta caves, that's it. This is the pasta update. Why wouldn't they just call him pasta caves? All right, when I change, officially the pasta update, another thing to look out for are, at least for the experimental is mining levels. Usually, you mine. It why? Even at least I did one 18 lava levels are going to be in

different areas. Like yeah there's not one set spot at y11 that you would mine at so you got to be careful where your mind now because the water and the lava levels underground at least are going to be random. Yeah. Was it localized is what I think they're calling it. Yeah. Which I'm okay with that from digging in the nether. You got to be aware. If it anyway so yeah and it's a lot slower in the Overworld should be able to avoid it.

Yeah it's some of the other stuff I'm a super excited and seeing is the integrated Mountain cave entrances. Hmm. It looks so clean and so cool. They create some really awesome formations one of the things I think is a bug but I'm really hoping they leave it. Is there have been Lush The caves spawning on the surface. Never noticed. It looks so cool. Yeah, I'm sure that's a bug, but it's a bug but I kind of hope it stays because it's such a cool looking thing.

It's not big enough to be its own little biome, but it's such a cool natural feature that you're like, all right, we need a rope this off. This is going to be a National Park from now on nobody touch it. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting idea. Now was it just the Lusk caves that are broken through the surface? I've only seen the Lush caves but yeah I would have to think it could happen to other caves the Lush caves men. So good.

Yeah. They showed us some of the dripstone caves to now I thought I was going to run into those and 117 because I obviously wasn't paying attention or short-term memory loss. I don't know. But we you do see. Down on the surface sometimes like in the water. But yeah, they showed what the caves look like. And they're pretty massive, at least the ones I saw. Oh yeah. They might even form in like the spaghettis and the the wide-open ones. I'm not too sure yet.

But as far as I know, those drips in caves, look, pretty big. Like, you had to borrow dripstone off me. If you found one of these caves, you would never need drips down again. That's how much there is all the dripstone. I have I borrowed five stone blocks and three-pointed dripstones from you and that's it. And everything else I've gotten has been from my dripstone farm which is not super fast, that's for sure.

I think I only have almost two stacks but it's a tiny little farm that kind of runs in the background. It's nothing impressive. Let's talk about the big Part of the update though. Department made people go. Ooh, yes, the most experimental. Yeah, monsters will only spawn in complete darkness. Yes, please. I love it. Hmm.

It makes 110 perfect percent of knowledge and stuff because everything Minecraft tells you is Darkness equals danger except for it turns out it's not Like Darkness, it's light level 7 and Below. Yes, which is just kind of some weird arbitrary number. So you could think you have light there, but you don't really not enough anyways. Yeah, and it gives you the opportunity to play with these light levels and not be almost on a mushroom biome exactly.

Like you can actually have light level 2 and it be safe. And like you were saying when we were talking I think it was Today, how you could walk down a dark cave and see a little bit of light and know, there's a little bit of safety there. Yes, which makes complete sense. Let's not forget about some of the new light sources. We've been getting the soul fire stuff. Doesn't get above 10. Light level. Some of the candles if you don't put down was it for candles together?

They're relatively useless glow? Liking is a light level 7 so it's useless. Except for now. Now with monsters only spawning in complete darkness. All of these lighting options now are there like legit lighting options. Mmm. Yeah no more. Well, this is a cool light but it's only really used for decoration. You know, this is a legitimate light that can stop spottings Perfect Right. Gives you a little more use a little more usefulness, net glow. Like in again, it was cool for Decoration.

Yeah, you know, just to put up around, it's not going to stop spawning, but will now a can. So exactly. And one of the main things you mentioned about the the new caves and cliffs update is the pain of lighting up the caves. Yep. And now you can actually spread the lights pretty thin to where you can light them up a little bit easier. That was my biggest gripe since day. One was, how am I supposed to keep spawn? From spawning in this cave.

So my in my Farms are enjoyable to use and this fixes that yeah you're still going to have these large things to light but you're not going to have to spam torches everywhere to make them spawn proof just a little bit of light will do it now. Yep. Spread them pretty thin. Mmm it's great. Yeah. I really liked the idea so to be just 0, right? Like the level 0. Yep. I'm curious about like the nether, would that be the same

for the nether? Like I'd be okay for the nether to stay how it is and I know the Pigman or the pig lens, they don't necessarily need seven to spawn, right? Yeah, I want to say that light levels don't stop spawns in the nether anyways. Okay that or it must be like the light level 15 is. The only thing that can like the maximum light possible is the only thing that could do. Do that probably wouldn't affect like Enderman and skeletons. They might have to abide by the rules.

Yeah. But most nether mobs at the gear, Right? Light level doesn't really affect much of their spawns, right? And putting this in there, this isn't going to affect slime spawns in slime chunks. So yeah, you're still going to have that. Don't have to worry about that. Exact eggs. You can actually spread those lights a little thinner. If Thing you used to have to spread it out so much, but now you can spread them all thinner.

They did mention that this is basically block light level and not Skylight level, but I haven't seen anyone go into a descriptive of what exactly is going to be the difference. Obviously Skylight is, you have an open roof to all the way to the sky. Build Limit Up, basically So I don't know how that affects it because I think that still seven and Below will spawn. Hmm. So like you're outside of your base.

Could still be relatively dangerous, it might need more torches, but inside won't, I'm not sure how that works. Now, that doesn't make any sense because the second you put a roof on something. The Skylight is 0. Yeah, I'm getting something confused. Yeah. Unless it's like above ground or under why level. It's got to be Go now doesn't matter. We use block. Light level to spawn proof everything. Anyways. Mmm but this all came from. We saw a king bee dogs mention it.

In a tweet saying it makes no sense to have to use the F3 button to determine if you're safe or not. Yeah, and how true that is right. The less use of the debug screen, the better, I agree. How nice would it be to not have to worry about that screen ever again. I feel like there's To put more on the screen to guess. Like, it almost takes up your whole view because they keep adding new things and new things. I feel like it's more of a

creative thing to use. Use it when you're doing, you know, just creative and experimental builds. Yeah, actually one of our main topics, hopefully we can get to that. We'll be talking about that. A minute. Is there anything else you want to talk about for the 118 experimental? Not that I can think of it does look great. I Forget to play with it yet. I did want to, I think you have to go outside of Minecraft to download the experimental

update. It's not like in the, in the main window when you start up. Yeah, I think it's a datapack. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's how you get to play with it. Yeah. Yeah. You guys know what's me and jimbob are kind of the we like to wait for the release to finally set foot in it. Hmm, Lester something. I'm like real antsy to see. Yeah it's this is one thing I really wanted to To see this, I plan on downloading it and checking it out because you know it's experimental and everything.

I do want to see what may or may not be coming to Minecraft, so stay tuned for that. All I got to say is again. Yeah, these are all experimental it could mean that none of it makes into the game or all makes into the game. But I really hope everything they've shown right now. Makes it into the game. Yes. Same here. It looks so good. Yeah really. Really What they're doing with the game right now? Especially the monster light levels. Mmm, pretty big one.

I think Cub fan has a video, explains it. Yes, a lot. So having good. See that one yet. But moving on from that, we actually have a few listener comments that we're going to carry over to this week. Some of them are short and quick, some of them are going to require a little bit explanation, but I'll start. This one's from Bean man from our Discord. Matter fact, all of these are from our Discord so you guys have enjoyed our Discord.

It literally Ali is the easiest place to get in contact with those were active on there all day every day, right? But being man asked, what is your favorite least favorite? And most disappointing update. My favorite update has got to be probably, the Shocker box update when they would. Is it the color? Yes, and they brought in the concrete and the Shocker boxes. Yeah, I wanted to say Redstone, I wanted to say a light, ra a light ra.

When they brought that in is when I first started playing, And so really like the Redstone was kind of already there already got to play with it at first, a light Ra was just getting there. It was cool and all, but you had to use your bow to go, you know, take off or whatever. But I remember when they brought the Shocker boxes in how much of a game changer that was, yes. And I think I was most excited to see that as of right now, I agree to be different though.

I will say either the bees and bugs update just because of how much it really cleaned up Minecraft the amount of bugs at that time was getting really long. So for them to take time and say, hey look Des updates just about fixing the game and basically making the quality of life, a lot better in the game. I really like that one. I agree that it's my least favorite. Yeah, all, that's your favorite, okay. My least favorite. Yeah, they brought in the bees

can't support that. Sorry, least favorite up till now was gonna be caves and cliffs just because 117. Gave us deep slight and deep slaves. My favorite block, but that came out and 117 not caves and cliffs. But that being said, I don't know. It's really hard to pick, it's hard to say any of them is disappointing, you know? I mean, right. Like none of them has been Been disappointing. You, there's always something

with one of the updates. Yeah. 113 was absolutely amazing and adding all the fish and wildlife in the ocean, but the amount of bugs in lag, it created was the disappointing part. It was almost not playable for the first two to three months. Yes, that that was a huge issue at first I think they went all the way to one 13.6. That's how many Times they had to fix the bugs, have not sure it was up there. It was up there. I remember that. Hopefully, we answered your

question be man. Yep. And next question is from kit, kitty cat to question. What was your favorite aspects atmospheric addition to 1.17? I don't think there were any atmospheric conditions, 2117 right? I mean you can count the Spore Blossom because that's in creative if that's what I was thinking. Yeah. When I think of atmospheric I think of like when you walk into the basalt Deltas. Yeah, the terrain. Well, the particles in the air cools the shading of the Fall bog. Yeah.

So stuff like that. You get that yet. We're going get that yet. Maybe the sounds from walking on geodes. You could throw in there. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we really got anything like that in 117. You like the look of how when you're real low in the world almost to like y 0, when the Deep slate covers, most of the underground and the caves with the Deep slate. I do like the Deep slate caves pretty much. I like that atmosphere. Look if anything.

Yeah, I haven't found a cave in deep slate yet, so it does look really cool, but it does only seen a couple though. It's not real big. All right. Next question is from High Hopes. They asked Is what is your favorite kind of built to watch a megabase, a certain style like tutor or modern anything and a time-lapse. Those are simply examples, not part of the actual question again.

Thank you High Hopes. I like every kind of build if that makes sense of someone's time lapse in Redstone, I'll watch it if someone's time laps ago, simple starter base, I'll watch it. There are some builds that are not fun to watch it all depends on how well, someone does the time lapse like, You're doing a first-person time-lapse and it's just basically, let's play footage. Sped up. I won't watch that.

That makes me sick to my stomach, but just about any other kind of time-lapse, I'm kind of down for, if you're doing grind, work. And I don't mean like, digging out a whole because at least, then you're still seeing progression. But if you're doing like grind work, like running around trading with villagers or crafting, a bunch of stuff that's not really that fun to watch. So I don't watch that either.

But yeah, I don't care what kind of building style your Building, I'll watch it. Anyone willing to put in that kind of effort to make a time-lapse or video out of it. Yeah, might as well. Yeah, I agree. I think it is more. It's more fun to see how creative a person can get on any type of build. Let's see how different they can make this. How what blocks they can use for a certain kind of house or yeah. Like a mega base like you mentioned.

So yeah, that's exactly I get more excited based off block pallets than I do the actual build. It's cool to see like it is there a combination of blocks? I haven't thought of that. This person's using, I've got to see ya. Like, whoa, there's looks so good together. Yeah, I say that to myself. Wait a few times. That being said I am being burned out on megabases you. I don't think they're, I don't

think there is cool. As people are saying, there are watching someone build these big large bases over and over again, especially when they're essentially. We filled with the same things over and over again. The exact same way. She's does. I'm sitting right here. You don't have to be so harsh. This is your base is the first time you've built something like that. So yeah. Like to stuff them full Farms. Yeah.

And mean, you talked about this in a call last night with Carl, I think people who watch me next season, will understand what I kind of want to do to counter that. So that'll be cool. Yeah, I want to stick with. My mega base theme but I want to like build small inside the mega base. You heard what I wanted to do and you're like yeah that's not a bad idea. Hmm. But your megabase idea for next season's going to be kind of cool. That being said, good luck. I don't, I don't want no part of

that. Burn me out, just looking at. It might shrink, it might shrink. It might be a mini Mega base. I don't know. Anybody could. I have a medium combo with that base? Right? Yeah. IMA get a medium combo base. Yeah, let me go for. All right. One more question? Yeah, High Hopes asked. Yes, me actually Jimbo same style of question but regarding the story element, do you prefer hearing about the lure of a world storyline Arc storyline arcs like the hermit Civil War

or more movie-style. I have an answer for this one. I like watching the Let's Plays but I don't know with a storyline going on. I do like videos that have just the storyline, it gives you something to look forward to. But just, I don't know, just in general when I like to make videos I like to have something different. Like I have my base going on. I had my Farms I'm building and then I like to mix it up with. Let's throw something in there.

Like, like the bees, for instance, Maybe Bees come to attack me as I'm building this base. You know, I'm just not building a base, there's bees coming, you know, or something along those lines. It doesn't have to be like, like you said, a movie style motion picture, but just some type of storyline to make things interesting. To mix it up a little bit, I think that's more like the hermit Civil War, loved it, loved the fact that everyone was taking on a character.

They were all, you know, you Did this, you did that, let's fight over this and that and it made things fun. They brought a different side of the people out there not just building in that case. And I do love love the way they build but it just it, mix it up and brought in a great storyline. What we're what were your thoughts? I could care less about the hermit Civil War. I love the Civil War for about two, three, maybe even four weeks. I stopped watching hermitcraft videos.

Just because I got so tired of it because it's always the same. Someone does something that can be easily explained, but yet it gets blown up into a civil war style story. I na. They're good. Builders I watch them because their Builders I don't watch for that kind of stuff. I like it. That being said, I know why they do. It makes complete sense, why they do it, there's no reason for them, not to do that. Those are probably some of their highest viewed videos and interactions.

So it makes sense. So I won't Down and it's just it's not my cup of tea. So I just kind of wait till they get back to normal and then jump back in more of a world, I'd like, but if you're not watching from the beginning, he's just can't jump in. You've missed so much, that's true. So that's kind of hard and when it comes to movie style, I introduced Jimbo to this and I'm going to introduce you guys to it but neebs gaming. Yeah, very much TV MA mature and everything like that but needs.

Has done the Minecraft series a couple times. They're on a break from it now, but they shoot everything. They do in a cinematic style, and it's quite literally just them doing a, let's play and having fun, but they have camera angles in production style, that Rivals anybody and it's very well done, and I absolutely loved it. That's my favorite way to watch. If anyone on hermitcraft, adopted, that style. I'm done sold.

Yeah. I remember watching neebs the thing is it started I started watching them on 7 Days to Die. Hmm. And the way they did their videos and how that made it like their little story it was kind of it was just like a, let's play. Yep. But they made it into like the ruin little story and then I saw they did Minecraft. I was like oh my God and then I started watching that and it's so different than any other style of yeah. Minecraft video you would ever see.

Hmm. And yet I Highly recommend it again. It is adult. Yeah, content. I love needs gaming. They're very good at what they do. Hmm. No. Minecraft lately. But I have a feeling they're going to come back to it with this new update. I don't know. They've got a couple series that are hitting on good cylinders right now. Yeah, depends what they're into. So what they're going to play. We'll find out. But highly recommend it. Yeah, thank you for that High Hopes.

And this is the last week you can get involved in our listeners. Survey, we mentioned this in the pre-show, please, if you guys are one to help us out, fill out the survey answer, as many questions as you can, it really does help the show. We're changing the show based off this last survey again. So people in the pre and post-show know what's going on and really helps us out. But High Hopes, your you got the Marquis again. Go ahead and take it away with some more information.

Hi everyone. I'm High Hopes. The withering effect is running a listener survey to find out what you think of the show included a questions about our Discord. If you would like to share your experiences or have ideas for new features, you can help shape the future of the Discord by following the link. In the show notes, the survey will close at 10:00 p.m. BST on Saturday. The 24th of July, 20, 21, so don't delay and get involved today. All right, thanks for that High Hopes.

Remember to get involved with a survey and give us your feedback before 10 p.m. BST this Saturday because that is it. We're going to head and we're going to start patching you guys about the survey and everything that that will be back to normally scheduled program. But let's talk a little bit about the Discord as being as the only place you can get involved in our mending Minecraft vote this week, we asked you to choose between three items alms for us to discuss and approve and the

items were potions. Horse armor and Trident in the winner of mending Minecraft. This week is Horse armor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, not not a bad choice at all. I have theories on this. Yeah, I saw Trident in the vote now is like, there's no way tridents going to lose it. Going last actually try to get 12 votes potions with 18 votes in the horse armor with a whopping thirty nine votes. Julie since horse armor, I'm 100% blaming hermitcraft on this vote, by the way.

Yeah, a lot of horse activity, lot of horse activity this season, so I think it's brought the horse stuff to the Forefront and that's why it won the vote this week. You could be right, could be right? Yeah, a few things I have here on the horse armor or summer is a special type of armor that can be given to a horse to wear only normal horses can wear armor. Donkeys mules, Undead variants such as skeleton horses. And zombie horses. Cannot be equipped with armored horse.

Armor, does not decrease the fall damage of the horse or its speed when worn other armor. Other only. Oh my God, only leather where summer can be crafted other. Horse armor can be obtained only from chess loot from some generated structures. There are leather iron gold and diamond horse armor. Unlike Are armored horse armor does not have durability. This means a single horse. Armor can be used in infinitely unless destroyed. And leather horse armor can be dyed. 12 million, 320, 6391

different colors. Yeah, that's pretty. It's pretty wide range of colors right there. Mmm, it's a whole, it's a whole freaking wheel, the whole color wheel. Yeah. Okay. Okay, so when coming up with the way to fix horse armor, we've got this thing in Discord passing around and I'm going to try to explain it again. When it comes to mending Minecraft, we try not to create new items. We're trying to improve the

items are already there. If we, if we constantly create a new items, that's all we, that's all we would end up doing for mending Minecraft true. Because we're trying to fix something. So, the best way to fix something as mix of new, but we're not. Here to do that. So when horse armor one, the question came up. Well, iron horse armor leather, horse armor. Do those are all different items, it's like, yeah, but horse armor was the item, not so much Diamond. Horse armor, leather, horse

armor. If we did that, that would be insane. You guys would get tired of us having a horse armor to vote for. So putting it all under one category. These all kind of go together. I'm going to start with nether right? Horse armor where R UB. What is this? Why we know have this option. Good. All the other ones bright, well, except for chain mail. Yeah, chainmail would be too bad. Either horses. Wear chain mail and Medieval Times. Yeah. Along with the night's, hmm.

I remember. I've seen that in movies and movies. Of course, not that old. Yeah, I'd be okay with you still need to make another, I can get. And then upgrade Diamond horse armor to get the nether right horse. Like, it's not something you can find, you would still need to craft it. Mmm, I'd be good with that. The other big thing is saddlebags, I know. We kind of have that would donkeys and mules and llamas, where you can put a chest on

them. And depending, on your breeding, depends on how many chests, Lots or whatever you have. But what if saddlebags quote unquote work? Like bundles. Mmm. Yeah, I said it saddlebags saddlebag, Bags. Maybe you can only have five or six slots available to you period, but it's kind of weird that you can't carry anything with the horse. How cool would it be if you had a to-go box always in your horse? Yeah, it would make it a lot more useful. The final thing is Enchanted armor.

It makes sense to enchant horse armor. Especially when we read that fall damage is still affected two horses. They Affect speed or whatever, how cool would it be to have sole speed for a horse or just speed in general? That's not based off of potions or beacons or anything like that? I don't know if beacons affect horse speed but not sure. Yeah let us enchant some horse armor, that'd be cool. Yeah. Or new enchantments just for

horse armor. Exactly something like that to me, that's the easiest way to improve the horse armor. We already have in the game. It's used mechanics that are in the game, just tailored to horse armor. Maybe what is it like a feather falling for horse armor, but not feather falling, but like slow falling. Like maybe they Glide down maybe like if you're on a mountain you can jump in like Glide down almost like a pegasus who like a pegasus enchantment. You can't fly, but you can

glide, I don't know. I'd be more adapt with your fellow feather falling idea. If my horse just Doesn't die. When I fall off a cliff, I'd be okay with that too. Yeah, it is, it's not fun to find the ways down Cliffs or maybe even like a swimming enchantment for your horse, where you can actually take it across the water. Yeah, we're float enchantment. I can't remember just Frost Walker work. If you're wearing Frost Walker on a horse, does that still work? Has it ever work? I don't know.

I want to say I remember reading somewhere that does but I don't put Frost Worcester Frost Walker on. My boots because I destroy every Farm in my base if I did. Yeah. I mean, you're not technically walking in that case. The right, you'd be frost riding whoo, I'll be walking. But yeah, something like that for your horse armor. Some a better way to get them

around easier. If I feel like there's times where you gotta, you have to Dismount your horse and go on foot because the horse will get stuck. There's nowhere for it to go. There's a huge amount It's a pain to climb over it. Maybe the horse armor can have some different enchantments to help you get through these obstacles. Yes, I would really like that. Bring the horses back. Yeah, well, I mean, that being said, I don't think a horse will ever be able to defeat the elytra. It just can't.

Yeah, sorry. But if you can make horses more enjoyable, it might be worth writing horses. Maybe there's a mechanic and legends out of breath of the wild where if you get on a horse and you start writing on a path, the horse will automatically take over and just keep continuing on that path until you tell it not to. So maybe if you're using path blocks and you ride a horse on said path, it will continue on that path just like breath of the wild does. So it would act kind of like a

minecart. And the fact that you don't have to necessarily navigate the horse, you could take a break and rest a little bit crews, could Yeah, you look at another. I so use mine cards to get back and forth to my base when I could easily just make a flying tunnel and fly back and forth. And that's just because, yeah, slow down enjoy the ride. Mmm, I'm looking at the notes for the discussion of the horse armor. And someone Prime gamer 3133

mentioned, Pegasus armor. Oh my God, we actually think alike. Well, Tango tank did an entire video. Basically of that, did he? Yeah. Oh my God. Geez, I thought that was like something. I thought of quite literally mentioned in the video, we should have a slot where we can put in a light truck in the horse and create Pegasus armor for the horse. Yeah, let's do that. Let's do it. See, I was trying to be more original, not copy that. I'll see. I was just thinking of it more

of like a slow falling. Not so much. You can fly but just Glide death. I'm slowly plugging in my headphones because they're die. Sorry, you're fine. Like, knocking stuff over it which is a group have to just bang. Bang. Bang. Pegasus bang, bang, bang. I'm ready. Okay, but I think I'm done with mending Minecraft. We have a few minutes to get to the main discussion topic, unless you have anything else. No, that's everything good.

Then we have time this perfect because their main discussions, not a huge topic but it felt like something worth talking about and it's another tweet from Ki King, be dogs, mentioning the F3 screen or the Bug screen and he says the ideal future is to not even need the F34 position coordinates. The problem is simply adding an item that shows the coordinates is also a really bad immersion breaking or is really bad and

immersive breaking. It's an interesting design challenge to think of. So I thought, is there a way we could come up with a way to add coordinates to the game without necessarily using the F3 screen? I mean First thought is a compass. Yeah, that's what I was like, either a map or Compass. I thought was the best way. We they've had it when I played it Xbox. I'm not sure about now like do Bedrock.

Do they have they don't have the cords on their also, do they Bedrock does not have the debug screen? Yeah, they have to like, special options. They could get it though, just. That just the chords. Yeah, I think there is a option. Now it used to be you had to turn cheats on which means you don't get advancements and stuff. I think that's gone now.

Okay, I mean we in the Java world, we have vanilla tweaks has the HUD that you can turn on and off that will show your coordinates and stuff but and item a compass. Just seems so practical to have a compass. Be able to tell you coordinates and maybe it's you have to craft a compass and then you have to craft that compass into something else to GPS. Maybe surround the compass with maps and then all that does is that Compass will then just give you coordinates underneath it. Yeah.

I mean you make a map out of a compass but it's with paper, right? So you're using Maps using Compass with compasses while I'm saying like if you surround a compass with the map because a map tells you exactly where you are. Mmm. But maybe a map surrounding a compass. Will act like a GPS and tell you your coordinates, I don't know. Yeah, then there's There's there's there's so many different features to F3, you know, not just the coordinates has, mmm. That's the whole problem.

Like you would need F3 like, like we were saying earlier, I'm okay with it being just a creative option, if they could give us another way to use chords, ordinances is the main thing and light level, and light level. We could throw that out the window. If we owe this whole experimental, snapshot is here to stay with the zero light. Spawns, exactly. That would be okay. Yeah, I'm trying to think what else you would use the F3 screw. I mean, I use the looking at

dimensions. A lot to line stuff up. Mmm, I don't really use that one. Just click count. I do it the hard way, knowing what biome you're in. Yes, if you're edging out a biome, that's a big one. That's true. Yep. Especially if you're in a Mooshroom. Hmm. There's places along the sides that could be spawnable that are beaches M. If you have a lake in the middle of your Mushroom Island that spawnable? Yep. Drown Farms. You need know where that River cuffed cuts off.

Hmm, the lot of different instances but thing is a compass a map could tell you these things. Yeah, I mean it's same, that's the same feature.

Light level might be a little different, but again, you know, with like level 0 being the choice of monster spawns, probably wouldn't eat it. In that case, this is an interesting question and it's Hard for it really is to find the answer because, you know, if Mojang is having an issue, putting their heads together, it is something to really think about one of the games I looked to was scrapped mechanic.

So when you spawn in survival, they are you spawn with a journal and in the journal, it tells you the time of day because monster spawning is affected by the time of day. Not so much light levels and it tells you your coordinates and allows you You to Mark directional beacons if that kind of makes sense. So the idea of having an item that you can physically, hold instead of going to a debug screen makes complete and total sense to me, it's just crafting

an item like that. What exactly would you want the idea of a journal is pretty cool? Especially, if you can flip pages and write little notes with chords, there would be cool. Like, hey found a skeleton spawner at Discord Discord. Cord. And in the upper left-hand corner, it tells you your current coordinates along with time of day or something like that. That could be super cool. That'd be super useful. That's a book. You'd want to have in your

interests all the time. Yeah. What if this is going on through really going out there on this one? Okay, they crafted something like a cell phone. Like I know this is Minecraft and you're not going to be carried around a cell phone, hmm. But that would be like the The only thing I could think of that could give you so much information in one item, but we're not going to get so fat. So let's be real. We're not going to get cell phones in Minecraft. Yeah.

No, you play with your cell phone on your cell phone. Like, come on. Mmm. That's not gonna be a thing, but just saying it'd be funny. It was a joke. Jim was like laughs. Dang it that we're not going to get cell phones. No, I graph. It be funny though. Steve pulls out whips out. A cell phone BBB. It would not be funny. We are at y17. I'd be very upset that if Steve got a cell phone before we got

concrete stairs and slabs. Yeah, can't make concrete stairs and slabs but let me call you let me make a phone call. No. I like the idea of an upgradable Compass or in upgradable journal, something like that. Could be very useful. The more I think about the journal to me is where I wouldn't lean but just because of the ability to judge Down stuff as you're working is really cool or like an atlas and Atlas maybe you can call it an atlas. I don't know.

Enough about atlases. I mean, it's kind of like a map. It's a, yeah, it's kind of a large map, really? Yeah. Yes. Some along those lines. Stop throwing stuff. In my head Jimbo. I'm trying. I'm just thinking. Yeah, I what the thing is, I've seen this tweet and I never really thought about the question. And here we are main topic time. Now I'm getting going. Yeah. Oh now I'm like, okay. Now, let's think of some ways to figure this out because I have been thinking about it.

Hmm. Sternum out there, I'm really curious what the Discord says about it. Yeah. You guys have any cool opinions. Definitely send this those and want to hear what other people can come up with that. Could be very cool. We do have a lot of interesting, suggestions in the discussing Channel, over mending Minecraft, be really cool to see Will

people think now? We'll try to remember too, if you guys take your time to come up with a way to fix the F3 screen for say, make a note and bring it up in the next episode. So we'll pick our favorites and talk about them early in the episode. And in the Tweety does mentioned, you know, the problem is simply adding an item to show coordinates has and probably other stuff that the debug screen shows you. I'm I think I'm okay with adding

different items To show you. Yeah, different stuff but this would mean you know, working on the inventory, of course. Hmm. Yeah. Inventory update next update, please? Yeah might need it. All right but I think that's going to do it for today's show before I have Jimbo reaches out, I want to say a huge thank you to all of our patrons who are supporting the show. Our milk level patrons are Omni Chief. Big Bear Croc deadwalker fragile rock oh beep. Stone figure and viperous tuna.

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