This week, we're joined by our first real guest (but not listener), Super Husband, who talks about how he knew Ed Chen before the murders, what it was like to find out, what Great Falls was like back in the 90s, and his own takes on the story of the Chen Family Murders. Look at us! Who would've thought? We also talk about Super Husband's SECOND brush with a murderer, which is, frankly, a bananas sentence to type. Also: how many dolphin statues is too many dolphin statues? Things mentioned: Thund...
May 06, 2021•1 hr 5 min•Season 1Ep. 27
Hello, listeners... We're taking a break from Beyond Belief for a few weeks (but staying in the 90s) to cover a true crime case that is local to MM's neck of the woods and we have a coincidental connection to: the Chen Family murders in Great Falls, Virginia in August 1995. Ed Chen murdered his mother, father, and brother in their home and went undiscovered until 2002. What exactly do you call a gathering of Chads? Do you still find out new things about old friends that are surprising, like mili...
Apr 29, 2021•1 hr 15 min•Season 1Ep. 26
Season 2, Episode 13 of Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction goes out with a whimper and its leftover stories, but that doesn't mean we don't have a blast covering them and coming full circle with our nostalgia and love of mysteries. (And full circle with something inexplicably going wonky with Katy's audio.) Pro tip: If you're holding a baby, try to hold it like a human. You're not getting out of this episode without an Animal Crossing Corner. Frakes knows how to hold a cat. Is MM's autobiography goi...
Apr 15, 2021•1 hr 3 min•Season 1Ep. 25
In this episode we break our record for how long it takes us to intro the podcast, but don't let that scare you. Welcome to Season 2, Episode 12 of Beyond Belief, Fact or Fiction where the theme(?) is a ~touch of evil.~ We're headed to Florida (honestly, they could set a whole season of this show and it would all be fact, amirite), a demon-infested suburban home, a murderous used car lot, a convenience store from HELL with 90s toughs, AND a trip back to ye olden timey skewl days. Please address ...
Apr 09, 2021•1 hr 20 min•Season 1Ep. 24
This episode is purposefully in a shambles, listeners, since Season 2, Episode 11 of Beyond Belief focuses on DISASTERS. Can rings melt together to save you from a fateful voyage? Can someone sense a volcano eruption on the other side of the world in their dreams? Can a director stop these actors from mouthbreathing? Do angels pick a few people to save on a flight instead of the flight itself? Do you trust a random parrot? Let's take a wine shopping journey with MM, shall we? Gotta start that da...
Apr 01, 2021•1 hr 12 min•Season 1Ep. 23
We are obSESSED with the late 90s references and styles on Beyond Belief, listeners, but not the casual late 90s racism. Katy's guessing again for Season 2, Episode 10 this week, where the stories are animal-related and exasperated-sigh-inducing. America is obSESSED with motorcycles, but not Danny's Hog Heaven or random Jay Leno name drops. We keep expanding the Beyond Belief Cinematic Universe. Fact or fiction: there's another Animal Crossing tangent. (Fact.) Just watch Midsommar next time inst...
Mar 25, 2021•1 hr 12 min•Season 1Ep. 22
Y'all ready for this? No, listeners, you are indeed not ready for Episode 21 of the Wine Times Mysteries, where MM is in the hot seat for Season 2, Episode 9 of Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction. Katy got Animal Crossing and her life is different now. MM always bets on ghosts. Somehow, everyone survives a haunted bucket. (Not a haunted chair, though.) A ghost communicates with flair and drama. Dick Van Patten is also here (HEY ABBOTT). After our game today, stick around for some bestie storytimes a...
Mar 18, 2021•1 hr 12 min•Season 1Ep. 21
We continue our coverage of Beyond Belief Season 2 with Episode 8 this week - it's Katy's turn to guess FACT or FICTION on stories as varied as a murderous animatronic gorilla, committing some light B&E for a hot ghost, a sleepwalking cop with an improbable beachfront home, an evil chair, and... people running late. Nothing special, just... ten minutes late. Add creepy animatronics to MM's list of ~things~ (this list also includes teeth and mayo). We accidentally have our first guest this we...
Mar 11, 2021•1 hr 18 min•Season 1Ep. 20
Bonjour, les auditeurs! We're back with another assault on the French language, errr, episode covering Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction. This week it's Season 2, Episode 7, and MM is sorting through the "ambiguity of truth" (okay, show, calm down). Will MM improve her guessing record? One of our tales is full of French accents as performed if they'd only had French described to them loosely from a barely remembered fever dream. HON HON HON! Another suggests you can learn telekinesis from a book, l...
Mar 04, 2021•1 hr 1 min•Season 1Ep. 19
It's that time of the week again - join us for Season 2, Episode 6 of Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction plus a bonus live wine selection as Katy picks her delivery for the month. What counts as foul language? Beyond Belief cribs from Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. Katy was bit by a spider but all it gave her was a hot take: Seinfeld was bad. There is a long tangent about having a friend to look at your gross stuff that we're not sorry for. Apple Cop meets a tragic end. You should always believe...
Feb 25, 2021•1 hr 11 min•Season 1Ep. 18
And we're back! Editing Gremlin Katy's brain has rebooted, so we're back with Season 2, Episode 5 of Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction and MM's back on the hot seat. Play along at home and tell us how you did! Our scores are not intimidating. Katy kills all plants despite her best efforts. We remember Titanic fever. If there's a psychic teenager predicting your doom, maybe don't say "Tch, I'm going to Brad's party ANYWAY." You can be #Hot40 or #AlmostDead40. You don't need to scrapbook your arson. ...
Feb 18, 2021•1 hr 10 min•Season 1Ep. 17
Beyond Belief really half-assed their theme this week, listeners. It's time for some (sort of) Friday the 13th tales! For Season 2, Episode 4 of Beyond Belief, MM tells the stories and Katy does her best to guess if they are fact.... or fiction. Play along and tell us how you do! Are the Beyond Belief writers tangentially responsible for Oscar-winning movie the Wrestler? Is this a prequel to Prison Break? We learn, as always, ovaries before brovaries. Our haunted calculators just keep repeating ...
Feb 03, 2021•1 hr 4 min•Season 1Ep. 16
Do you have ghosts in your blood, listeners? We're back with Season 2, Episode 3 of Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction, and MM's our guesser again. Play along and tell us how you do! <Stefon>This episode has everything.</Stefon> Demon children, possessed chalkboards, A+ Frakes Phrases (tm), a telltale handprint, an astral projecting Crayola spokeskid, a baby Aldis Hodge sighting... MM's going to blow this cocaine ring wide open. Chocolate chip cookies always come through. Katy's serious ...
Jan 28, 2021•1 hr 4 min•Season 1Ep. 15
We're still buzzing over yesterday's inauguration, listeners. This week, we're talking about Season 2, Episode 2 of Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction, with MM telling the tales and Katy on the hot seat. Looks like the theme is "But they died ten years ago!" MM enjoyed a glass of rose with the help of some magic. Katy has never felt so alive. PA Oliver Queen shares his opinions. WHY ARE MEN. What on earth does "putting the bite on you" mean?! Things mentioned: Mocking Spongebob meme: https://knowyou...
Jan 21, 2021•1 hr 11 min•Season 1Ep. 14
It's a new era, listeners! Welcome to our first episode covering Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction - this time we're watching Season 2, Episode 1 because, as you'll hear, we both felt very strongly about starting in the Frakes era. We're in our feelings about the insurrection and coup that happened in DC this week. No jokes here, just... sadness and anger. MM gives you some Frakes and trombone trivia, a Venn diagram with a surprisingly large overlap. Katy speculates on the weird Beyond Belief mansi...
Jan 14, 2021•1 hr 6 min•Season 1Ep. 13
It's 2021, listeners! To celebrate, we got you a... very rough episode about the Unsolved Mysteries reboot episode, "Stolen Kids," covering the 1989 kidnappings of two toddlers in Harlem. MM names her upcoming memoir. PA Moxie rebels. Katy dodged a bad tattoo. Buy Nothing drama abounds. If there's a dunk on a podcast but the person doesn't hear it... is it a dunk? Google Machining/Links Mentioned Oprah Magazine , "What Happened to Unsolved Mysteries' Christopher Dansby and Shane Walker?": https:...
Jan 07, 2021•54 min•Season 1Ep. 12
Happy New Year's Eve, listeners! This week, we're talking about the Unsolved Mysteries reboot episode, "Lady in the Lake," about the 2010 disappearance and mysterious death of JoAnn Romain. *** Trigger warning : The police believe that JoAnn Romain committed suicide and we discuss their theory (and why her family thinks the theory is total bs). It does not go in depth but does reference the theory that she went into the lake on purpose several times in the episode. Please be advised.*** MM has a...
Dec 31, 2020•1 hr 5 min•Season 1Ep. 11
Hello, listeners! Happy Candlenights, merry Crimbo, and welcome to the ghost episode! MM and Katy cover the Unsolved Mysteries reboot "Tsunami Spirits," about the 2011 tsunami that devastated Ishinomaki and the Tohoku region of Japan and the reports of ghost sightings and spirits that have happened since. MM gets confronted with all her anxiety triggers. Katy only recently learned that most people have fully functional fingers when they wake up. Katy explains what a COVID test feels like. MM tel...
Dec 24, 2020•1 hr 6 min•Season 1Ep. 10
Hello listeners! This week, MM and Katy get into episode 3 of the Netflix Unsolved Mysteries reboot's second season, "Death Row Fugitive," about the escape of convicted murderer Lester Eubanks from custody in 1973. Eubanks was in prison for the 1965 murder of Mary Ellen Deener and has evaded capture since his escape. Some ideas are real bad ideas. MM and Katy write an 80's jam and a create a pitch for a new show called Fruit Cop. Don't leave your dryers unattended around Katy, the Florida Man of...
Dec 17, 2020•57 min•Season 1Ep. 9
Hello, listeners! This week, MM and Katy are all aboard the spy train as they talk about the Unsolved Mysteries episode "Death in Oslo," about the 1995 death of an unidentified woman found in the Plaza Hotel in Oslo, Norway. **** Trigger warning : one of the theories surrounding this woman is that she died by suicide, and we talk about this theory. From 40:19-43:30 we talk about the specifics of the theory and how investigators think it's debunked, which includes details of how the police assume...
Dec 10, 2020•1 hr 3 min•Season 1Ep. 8
This week, MM and Katy cover the first episode of the Netflix Unsolved Mysteries reboot's second season, "Washington Insider Murder," about the 2010 murder of former White House aide and veterans rights advocate Jack Wheeler. This episode is powered by vodka and brought to you by trash birds. Katy bought a big girl mic and no longer sounds like she's in a submarine. MM has her second Unsolved tattoo inspiration. Our apologies to George Stephanopoulos. One big unresolved question this episode: wh...
Dec 03, 2020•1 hr 10 min•Season 1Ep. 7
Hello, listeners! MM and Katy get into episode 6 of the Netflix Unsolved Mysteries reboot, "Missing Witness," about the 2006 disappearance of Lena Chapin (based on police reports(tm)). MM has some dreams that are a little on the nose. Katy plans an epic tattoo of Maryland culture, hon, and MM gets her first Unsolved reboot tattoo inspiration. If anyone tells you we're off buying fighting roosters, that is a red flag. And finally, we ask the important philosophical question: * why * is MM? This e...
Nov 26, 2020•1 hr 5 min•Season 1Ep. 6
Hello, listeners.... and welcome to our first murder-free episode! MM and Katy react to "Berkshires UFO," episode 5 in the Unsolved Mysteries reboot. We also establish our belief baselines - do we believe in ghosts? Aliens? Have we had any paranormal or extraterrestrial experiences? ****** Get in touch: Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespod MM | @truecrimewine69 Katy | @katyhoss [email protected]
Nov 19, 2020•47 min•Season 1Ep. 5
Hello, listeners! MM and Katy dive into episode 4 of the Unsolved Mysteries reboot, "No Ride Home," about the 2004 disappearance and murder of Alonzo Brooks in La Cygne, Kansas. You'll also start to piece together more of our backstories as we both relate to parts of this case. MM learns about Katy's mushroom coffee and has questions. Plus some mysteries from Katy's neighborhood Buy Nothing group - from whence came the street eggs? (We're working on Katy's audio, we swear. Podcast babies!) *****...
Nov 12, 2020•56 min•Season 1Ep. 4
Hello, listeners! We're back and talking about Episode 3 of the Unsolved Mysteries reboot, "House of Terror," which delves into the 2011 Dupont de Ligonnes family murders and the disappearance of the murderer, family patriarch Xavier Dupont de Ligonnes. MM and Katy do their level best to not insult all French-speaking people with their attempts at the French language. Also, learn Katy's family mystery about her grandfather's orange pajamas, a truly epic tale. ****** Get in touch: Instagram and T...
Nov 05, 2020•58 min•Season 1Ep. 3
MM and Katy are back to cover Episode 2 of the Unsolved Mysteries reboot, "13 Minutes," about the 2004 disappearance and murder of salon owner Patrice Endres. In this episode: Truly harrowing flower arranging, Steel Magnolias references, Katy jumping to conclusions (this will be a series-long theme, we're sure), a heinous Build-a-Bear suggestion, the always good idea of biscuits before buzzards, a turducken of remains, and an impassioned PSA for life insurance (#thisis40). Also in Cumming, GA/Fo...
Oct 29, 2020•1 hr•Season 1Ep. 2
Hello, listeners... Welcome to the first episode of the Wine Times Mysteries podcast! In this episode, MM and Katy cover the first episode of the Netflix Unsolved Mysteries reboot, "Mystery on the Rooftop," about the 2006 disappearance and murder of Rey Rivera in Baltimore, Maryland. In this episode: MM has thoughts on Baltimore, y'all. Born-and-raised Marylander Katy defends Ballmer as best she can. RIP Robert Stack (and winning career day). Never trust fancy names and schools for fancies. (Not...
Oct 29, 2020•1 hr 14 min•Season 1Ep. 1
What are you (and we) doing here? MM and Katy give you a quick intro into this new project and what we'll be talking about each week. ***** Get in touch: Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespod MM | @truecrimewine69 Katy | @katyhoss [email protected]
Oct 21, 2020•2 min