Where you are listening from is seven pm work suffric in Time. My name is kalu Aja and it's on the episode of Xmas Twitter spaces with me. We're talking money, the economy and of course personal finance and as usual, want to make it personal to you. How do the economic topics that has happened affect you personally? This week we've got special guests in the house.
Effects just conclude a code cash Crop four point zero Hackerton And if you've been following, we do a lot of retweets on that and what it is really is we're trying to bring together three those three elements agriculture of course, fintech and finance. We're trying to bring it together and see how we can scale right, how we can scale a greg bring the young into agree, bring tech into agreg and then of course have not just this planting and sowing,
but they behind the scenes. How can we make farmers more productive? How can we making investors come into that space, How can we increase yields? How can we know how this interplay and increase productivity, improve employment and all those positive outcomes. That's what basically CECC code Cash Club Hackton four points where it's all about. So today I've got special guests. I see Michael here. Already we've had the hackaton, We've had winners. Someone went to me
about ten thousand dollars. Only here who it is, And I don't know how they came about their idea and how they believe that idea is going to be essentially move the needle in terms of agricultural productivity and yields. So Michael, how you doing. You want to go about and on the mute brief intro, tell us about yourself and they will get down to away. Good evening, guys. My name is Michael Navel. I'm a software developer from
Kenya. I'm currently in my fourth year of academics in the University Terminal Zoo, Kenya, University of Melicults and Technology, pursuing Telecommunication engineering, a software developing the founder of a startup Collution will speak more about it, but in a natural in say, is a comprehensive solution for small holder farmers. Provide
farmers with information on the right crops to grow in their locations. Also provide them with adequate links to people who are selling approved input supplies, aggrements, plan and digitizing the aggravates industry in Kenya and in Africa, persons are linked it directly to the market, so ensuring that maybe with a farmer every step of the journey. So that's I'm saying a natural aspeth and see HD doesn't perhaps right? Yes, yes, yes, just say that's that's only forestallingly
foresilla. Are you saying you in the first year? Did I hear you say that? No? No, fact, I'm going my fourth year. I'm going to give me fortirsty which one. Yes, it's called nat International University of Ariculs and interesting, Well, welcome to Nigeria in quote right, So you think we're gonna come back to you and talking in depth about your your presentation on how you felt what you're doing is gonna move that middle. I've got your cougle here, your cogle hide. I'm good to how you
doing? Everyone hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Go ahead. I mean you're going to meet up with from Elvis and I thank the unisity and we had to have the culture innovations and how we can sustain economic and development to what we have pat this evening okay, yeah, to go to some I'm gonna do you take time and walk on the audio. I think you're bringing out your connection or the audio work on it. I'm don't. I'm gonna speak to Michael and I'm gonna come back real quickly. You
are just walking again back in. That's fine, yeah, Michael. Let me come back to you. Michael, give me just give me an idea. How do you hear about the cold crash crop? And what did you do this? Did you do your presentation because of the competition or something you already had going and this was just the competition allowed to showcase it, and so we had to do We had started, we had competed in a few
competitions spread to podcast crop around three or four. We had dot a couple a goal, but not to the skill that is effects could cash crop four point two. So how I came to know about cold cash crop is one of our sponsors is called Marina School. That's also a school where I've done my SELFT engineering at. It's our soft engineering school here. So they sent me the application for cold cash crop was very very intensive, I must say,
but it was very interesting. I made the application and you know a few weeks later I got a call from Natasha who is Allison here in Kenya that have been selected to participate in the competition? And how was it you
presented and called you that's it? Yeah, I am so once I was called actually couldn't managed to go for the first day there or some demonstrations center in a ruby, So I actually just went for the second day and the ablish act that only the only four of us who are selected to participate in the competition, not only in k and the heart of Thoms usually find you know, a hundred people there at least time all was elected. So my hogs are you know? Have so it was it was so much, so
so much easier to say than what had experience before. For sure in terms of the numbers of competition. To tell me about your solution? What is it? A into? You said you're doing the right crops to grow? How does it work? Is it an if I'm a farmer in my locality? Is it an I go online, I can talk my GPS, it will tell me what to grow. Tell me a probout how a normal farmer would use what you what you presented, okay, so hard farmer will approach
this system that you have. Is that you come onto the platform that you have. You select the location that you're in, the exact location that you're in. Then we'll give you recombinations of the best crops that will in that location. We're hoping to provide the family with at least three recombinations that they can trust from. So you have, for example, you can have banana's
service and beans. You also given not simate costs of productions for hits of this, so depending on your bad that you can know which crops is the best to go with first. After that, yes, you're go on come. So after that you added to a list of selected crops. Then you cannot enter deep into it. So for example, if you decide to learn more about me is you can get this information in are currently in so Helium
in English. But one thing I learned from Cold Cash crop is that there's so many poles that you know can listen to this native language, is that they cannot really read them. So you need to make sure these things can be orderly influenced to our farmers say, you know, they can listen to all this information instead of just reading it all. But currently we just have a system where you can be able to translate to get this information either in
English or so or Heali. They can also download it as a PDF. Then now yeah, then I've broken it down into steps. So list Upon is plant planting, so in planting and giving them information on how to best planting plant, giving them the best ways to prepare their land, the best sites to select. After that, they're giving them access to financial They're giving them access to Aggravates for selling through a platform. This is one of the
ways that will be making money. Aggravates will be paying a subscription fee to be another system. If currently partner with a company h Can called pig paid the laws YouTube transacts freeing in currency so you can be able to transact in Nigeria and era Can and Shieldings can be able to transact their card so you can buy directly from the aggravates and they can be pro directly to your farm.
After that, the firm is given enough marketing intelligence when as the Nigeria realized, they're also facing a problem with your currency abilities at an all time law Also, occurrency is very very low as you speaking, so you know today something may be going for one hundred, two hundred, the next day
it's three hundred. So we're giving the former enough market intelligence to know what exactly which point to press the goods that after a feeling them directly to the market, so they our platform, American post their goods and any commercial Platformeric and ourselves as a prisoner. It tells me when the process are high, you say exactly, yeah, yeah, and this is only for Kenny and like I know, he says in English and maze, but can of Nigeria
download this and us it and say happier state or it's only kennya. Well, the mains of problem will definitely face is collecting this data, but we plan on using letters for this. So currently in can you have color and CALP who have this data breading so when the counts and scale will definitely look
at regulators. So we also ensure that we're not giving a former UNI information that we've just pulled on to think here, so that would be a challenge, but it's also an opportunity for us to to be able to kind of collaborate with this invest doesn't regulators in this sandal and both times for that intro and about what the app does and in generalities, we are let me have that Ilieud did right Iliudro roo get. Yes, this is a little how are you doing? So welcome to this is with me Carlo Aga. I'm
just asking about everybody. Yeah, I introduce yourself, tells about your app and if you don't know, guys are speaking to the three winners. I don't know if you there are three winners? Who who was the ultimate winner? Who want the main prize? How was it? How was it was in Michael, what's your couple? Your couple? It was a prize winner? Then we have Michael and Luda. We're all finals at the countries.
We're just talking to you guys so we can learn how you guys approach this possibly then see how we can sort of you know, use or copy or you know, interpret what you guys are saying. The person will be do
back here. So look quite introduced yourself and just tell us about your experience and what you're presented at the Cultash group from point zero by Effex Okay, thank you very much, Klou. My name is Ludot and I'm the founder of Silo Africa, where we transform brain storage in Africa using digitized silos. Basically, we find that farmers in Africa and especially Kenya where we found me, which is our main staple group. We experience a lot of losses as
a result of the post salvist issues. One of them could be the afflatoxin poisoning. Secondary would be infestation from the weavils the past and also the rodents. So what we've come up with that is a solution that is tamperproo is actually bullet proof. We are providing these farmers with We are providing these farmers
with our silo, which is digitized. We've been at a date with the post service loss detection device that in the event of any infestation, the farmer can be notified and the farmer can be able to place the immediate intervention to prevent loss of grain. Interesting, is this like a physical silo? You guys? What has tell me about? What is it a silo in my families? What do I do I go to? You tell me about it? Okay, Basically, you're a farmer. You're stationed in your farm.
So our solution is own family are coming to your farm where you're located, and we are giving you We've designed a metallic silo which is tamper proof and the rodents cannot cannot infest these silos, and what we've gone ahead is to put this device where which we're embedding it inside the silo and it is able to check the environment of the silos so that in the event of any infestation,
the farmer is notified. So the farmer is metallic in nature. We are using aluminium to fabricate the silos and we could do it on site where the farmer is, or we could fabricate it in our location, our site location and then transport it to the farmer. So basically the farmer, depending on the carry the amount of produce the farmer has during that year, whether it's twenty bugs for an aca, of farmers bring an acre to ten birds.
Basically are targeting the small, older farmer, this one who cannot be able to tack the produced maybe to a warehouse for selfe storage. And yeah, maybe because of the high cost of transportation, the requirements maybe by the government in terms of the moisture levels and all that, and we are providing
this solution to them. They're able to store the grains safely and it doesn't you don't use any chemicals during storage and you can store them or the grains up to six years without any infestation or any changes to the quality of the grains. What about the humidity, Like I know that's a problem with drying out the base. So situda or its just store as you put it in us. What you get is that before you stow it, you there's a
certain requirement you have to meet. The mesture levels have to be below fourteen percent so that you stow it safely, so that we you don't put an
environmentally exampler toxin or any more to grow. So we first dry it, we ensure that the firmer drives it well and in the processes that in the future, in the near future, we are looking into providing mobile mobile drying facilities for these farmers so that we ensure that the grains that are being kept inside the sign of First of all the beds they required the require patrics in terms of the right temperature, the right moisture levels, the right CE or
two levels, so that when and put in the in the silo, Yeah, it is well and safe. And this is only for green Can I like store like cocoa or can I stall mango? It's only for grain basicallyforna it's green, it's great. Any grain any any what do you call them? These land tales at all? That gotcha? Gotcha? Okay, So there's some place if I go to Yahoo right just to experience about the cash crop four point zero? How do you know about it? How to join?
What? No? Just give me your brief you know on party on that elliot Okay, I joined. Actually saw these the advert for FX good cash crop on LinkedIn on LinkedIn, but be a day before that a friend of mine who is also in the Innovation Spencer and the architect Innovation Spencer also sent me that advert and I was able to place that application and lucky we were shortlisted might Amos shortlisted from Saulo Africa and we went to present at Marina
School. It was before that child there's our training a day where we were going we're going through some trainings and it was it was really an eye open up for us, simply because you have this big solution, you're wondering how you're going to take it to market and it was really don't for us.
And I looked out, betters, if you're thinking where to start talk to effects the cat the called cash crop is one place a good place to network understanding all the nots and bolts of what you want to do from ideas to exactly. And when we were shortlisted as a finalist with Michael to go to Nigeria, we were really excited. It was one of a kind of an opportunity. Yeah, very very excited, one as happy excitement. You wanted to come and see Legos? Is that it? Yes? Yes, yes,
yes. We've never been to West Africa and we used to hear about pain Nigeria. We didn't know how about it wasn't really good. Interesting, my brother, I'm gonna talk about the high you guys, you experence by Nigeria. What the food you at all? That we're gonna get to that? Right, Michael has dropped off. I was gonna go to Michael had to ask him this experience. So Michael hop back in worst you can let me not to hop back in once you can, right, So let me
come back to Michael, Michael, give or take right? What was your experience like? What was it one thing that you learned in the Okay, I've got your co back and I'm gonna put your cobo, your cooka, your company. Can hear me? You? Can you hear me? Now? Can you speak it's just going to some mightyel real quick, let's go back to my mightel worst right, it's hitting I guess not just Michael experience. To you, what was the key thing that you think you got out
of this code crash Cup experience? Like I passed from just the pitch itself, what would you advise someone is listening and I'd like to do a pitch and I have an idea. What key elements do you think that you have learned that you like to know to teach me or to pass onto me that I should incorporate in my page, or how I operationalize my idea. I'm also gonna say the same question, so Michael, go ahead, I think
so much. I think what I really learned from the whole experience was that everyone has ideas, but it stakes it stakes genius to be able to turn those ideas into businesses. That's what really makes some ministers startups feeling is that they they end at the addition stage. You you know, you don't push U to market. So one thing I learned is that you you have to just on the market custima. I don't know if this will say that affects all right way to say. But someone was telling us that you know,
go to have to go to your customer first. So for example, and to impact small older farmers have to go to small builder farmers first. That's than the top three problems they're facing. If I'm solving a problem that it's outside the problems they mentioned, there is no need for me to build that system or that application. So that's something that really affected me. I realize that I have to build for the pinpoints of my customers. All right,
So test the market talked to the market is how I'm here? You say what the customers wants? Go I should be ord is that it? Yes, that's exactly a question for you. Corporal question for you. Do you think that solutions are created and then customers buy or customers want a solution, then they get a solution. So like take it to brush, no one used a tooth project was created, right, but it was created equal amount or now we all use it. So to take it to ag culture.
Do you think people wanted what you provide you or you have the the app for the make me know what's what to plant in myself? Is that what the market wanted? Or you have basically created this product now, and then of course markets will follow you. As say, before I plant, I'd like to know what the soil is talking about and how I can basically use that information of ride. What do you think is small like it? Yeah?
So currently, first I think we jumped right into making an idea and building a small lymppy first just for you know, testing it out, validating the idea. So you had first to validate the idea since the idea is something that other people think is an idea that gold work. But definitely point go to the market. You need to go to these farmers and actually know if they really care what were they mostly care about? Do they care about
the as well? Do they care about the rainfall? Protect? And then teach our up or our system to best suits these customers that you are solving. Understand, So your couplem comes to you, we wouldn't get your intro because you are in and how I like to just induce yourself talk about the solution that you presented, why you think it was the joice founded, you know, like number one percent? Just give us an idea. Then we can then catch you back up with Michael and look ahead so very much?
Can could you win everyone you could the meter from firms Center Intelligence. I think the basic thing we do at firm central intelligence comes from the positions of nalergy. Right we realize that so small not really because they are small because they don't know exactly what it takes to from point A to point being right, So in nangerl okay, I think I'll just tea then most reta right now, internet is one firm show coming online data are you're suing you right
now? So now when this stay happened, how do we expect our farmers to them? Right? So for a farmer right now that we've talked to a firmer where we were to the easy fertilizers in the firm, it's it's a very bad And there they are point in them where we go to the firms and we talk to firmers about how they can increase your production. And
you know we are met with radio because like Inverness level too. So we believe that if we can give you firm as the right education, the right inputs, they can be able to move them from one point to the other. Take take about exampl Right now a firmatter firms on ohere hectors there is a production he can do right there. There is a limit to our mogic and work bad day, there's a limit to a mogic can make permounts have a way we motor firmer from our hector toctor hectors and while we are doing
that, want to make sure where it isn't the workload. So that is where we mechanization. And then the bigger problem we take it is that we believe that every solution can be sold using technology. That is true, but your acting is if you don't know the problems, if you've not figured out in the solution, there's no way way you can apply to them. I think from my friends or point of thought, tech is just the second dimension
and application tech is meant to scale the product. But first you must understand the problem. You must not the solution that work. Then it's only when you have tested these hypothensis and get your actories, so then you not think, okay, how do I scale it from mound ready to one thousand, from one thousand to one meal users using technology? But we believe that we can sit down behind our computer, roll up anub and you know, take it to the firmers and like Okay, start using it, but how do
you want to do that? There's the from technology works. But the thing is they are a famers that have interact with most of them don't use a dreadful most of them, they still help them to retard their god of So these kind of farmers, if if it's why we are dealing with, then we need to do something right, something differently right. Were not come into the field and said we have a not No, we have to talk from the perspective of the beginning, like let's talk up from the foundation and part
of it. What are you doing wrong? What are you doing right? And why is this not working? The how cap come into you put that only when we the most treated that to work many times many cases that we're not talking how do we scale it? So our job at FANCI is Morphi consultant. Of course we focus on small d the farmers because they account forlidated millions, right, and we believe that if we're able to scale these farmers from points one to point ten, then they're able to provide for the generations
or the country. But then the other thing we do that is systematic introduction of news. Many youth want to graduate and you know see them being computers and press codes and all of them. The reason why it's so, it's because it's easy to do that. You see them behind the cities, you're not doing your work the point of value. There are many you think that, okay, going into agriculture is exhaustive. We have to go compulas some
of that. But what if there's a will can change the narrative. What if there's a will can tell you that, okay, you be an agriculture don't know me. You have to pay them and courting with the other ways. You can't do that, even an agronom mistare or somebody coming from the perspective of agriculture. When you graduate, you don't want to come back to the feet. But there's a way we can do it. We can, you know, we can solve that that problem by just what we do is
that we systematically introduce students to agriculture. First, we guard these farmers into a group of closters, each each one of them specially towards they plant. Then we introduce a kind of small corporative. You see, people like to do things together. You know, no matter how we we say it, people like it. When you see other people doing the same thing. In my relate the skin I can't remember in them, but you know, we have ten farmers and each seat one of them together. They go to each
they are family. You know. Tend people in one firm today ten people in another firm, and they're able to do much more work than having one person who working in you know, individual firm for ten days because the results you get is not tending, it's undering. So the work faster, smarter, and you know, the interaction this day. So if we're able to introduce this scamp system, amount of our fumbers, they know what they know
what, so there's information sharing. They know what other peoples are doing. And so what we do is after gathering them together, they formed the small computive. Then we take and annoy it's a graduate from a Greek or a nights to them from my Greek. We trained them for like three months and we introduce them to this former. So they serve as a consultant. They serve to guide these formers. Of course they go with our app right,
so they collect information writer than dos and they know what to do. If they hit a point where they don't know what to do, they don't know how to con so we think just what the app is, what you wach presents so we can follow what do you guys actual contents present? Alright, sorry presently. Now what we have now is the kind of data is that contain better information best farming practices. So and those best farming practices itself to
farm a true I interactive voice systems. We don't want to use us as as we know as really work. So now with that, the farmers all with the basics small food the future of food, they ractually calling to get information so they could we could follow up on them. We have a well targeted marching learning behind it that follow up on the farmers at every steps of going systems and we use guiding them as the counselors. We're able to monitor
them, may move them from one point. So while doing that, you're also providing them between sources like fertilizers are inputs and all of that. So at the end of the day we can track how much they have done better and want to move. So and they offered the multiple languages, each one of them specific to the farmers languages, so local quick ship. I was a farmer in Abyan, not to the far farm can how will this work? And I will go to the side and I'll say how to farm cas
server will give me a use that have worked? Again what to use? So the first move is with our officers. So if you farmers that's farming cast Ambias States, you are going to join our groups of other farmers are family in Abia States. So you quickly go to a little training about what we do and our solution here because right now you've already been contines. Our
solution can help you. So having joined that close groups, the next thing is who give you the mobile where rolling into the systems where you get a personalized systems so if at any point in the movement you needed some help, you can just call him. And it's not like we have to be there at one side. We've set up a system that so to maintain the solution so that it's use your key word based on what you say. Beyond that
as a family to need kind of tubers and all of that. So how do you get the best one because now we've just told you that the one you're using those or now we don't really want to plan tomorrow. Are you getting me? Yes? So this this looks like lockdop. Now are you saying that you have agents or is an a that's basically tracking? Is the track me where you support human like both personalize human in an AI. So the first day I used to change it. That doesn't make sure it's giving
a personalize with sugar. But the base of it, though is detained somebody behind you because I do the advisory services. Okay, that works on me. From now, I will just quickly get farmer I have just in case farmer a Calaby is my good friend, just to make him have an ink before we go on, and we want to open up the floor to comments. I'm going to come back to Michael Elude and your coupo. But farmers,
do you have a comment to make on Watch you pet? So far we're talking about the code crash propoint zero that it's finance and we call fin finance fintech agriculture within that intermix where we're bringing the solutions from the I to the farms to increase yields and all that. From my point, you don't have any comments or you want to go ahead? Yeah, yeah, thanks, thanks so much. Call you. First of all, let me appreciate the young amazing men, young people have done an amazing world in beauty.
The solution to serve as an enabler for the agglic sector. You know. My passion over the years, for two decades is building technology solutions that would help add value to the ADWIC sector. And I've listened to all of them, and one thing I always say is this, if you're a beaulting a solution to solve problems within the ecosystem, you mustn't show that exactly solving the
real problems. I was chatting with a young gentleman sometimes, like I said, look today we have one I s in Google Store, play Book play Store that we have a low ecntual solutions developed. But is unfortunate that in then Injuriant set, then Endurian factor, it's still very very difficult for a small order farmer to integrate properly into these solutions. Not that they're not there,
it's existed. But how do we begin to educate us world the farmers to integrate properly on how these technology solutions will solve their problems, you know? And it's simple. We must start within a community, within our local governments, within groups farmers group, our stations, clubs or you know, trade unions that around us. Let them know what we're doing on this technology, you know, on how it affects farmers and how this joy can solve
problems affect their farmers. A typical example of what I did. We're working on something right now with the particularistic governments and if the farmers retister book, the state does not have a collective data for their farmers across the entire local governments, and it's difficult for government to make decisions if you don't have data. So the first thing we did was to create a after it did a register, Well, farmers will have you know, access to these data and
help government or let's say government to make improvi decitions. So I want to say, it's fantastic. I love if what effects has done in being bringing these younger generations together and building solutions to drive their cultural set or fantastic very present effects. So thanks time, Thanks mother. Do you just get the temp party contribution of what I will see, because I'm really impressed again by the age and the solutions that have been presented, and I can see that
I can use all three. I'm not a farmer, but I can use my curls. I can use alot, I can use their Google solution. And this is why I like it. It's not some thing that I have to be a PhD or a large farmer. I actually tomorrow use this solution that they have presented. They had the code crash Club tomorrow. I can emplace it tomorrow and I start to use it. Let me come back to Avia. Just in terms of the pitch, right, I did ask Michael the same question, what do you think you took out of that pitch?
Like if you had to do advise maybe your friends back home, you can go for a page maternal at a business plan. It doesn't be for the culturable. What are the key elements you go from? You know, from with the communist that you find that effect that you wouldn't like to tast out first longs to folks that you want to like. This is how you should do it. This is the key thing you should touch on when a pitch
god itself. Okay, thank you very much. Can The biggest takeaway in the Trainings and the Cold Cash Cropper was that your problem has really true. You have to really identify the problem and justify the problems that you're trying to solve because if you're not in touch with the small holder farmers on the ground, looking at their problems, trying to devise ways to understand it because most most of the time we normally rush to coming up with a solution, but
you haven't really gone deeper. They'll deeper into understanding the problems that the small holder farmers are are going through. And as a Cello Africa, these are the things that we that we normally experience as farmers. Ourselves, our maize or brains are normally affected by a flat boxing. They are affected by the wives are affected by the rodents, and we lose for every twenty birds,
we lose five pads. And that one we've experienced it from one firmer to another that we've spoken to, and from these trainings from the cold Cash Growth really came to understand that we really have to understand the problems that we're trying to solve. Now, when you're going back to the solution, you don't you have to take an expanse expansionist kind of strategy. Don't come don't come up with one solution and say that that one will be the solution to your
problem. You have to constantly italiate. You're going to the firmer speaking to them, coming back italating. Then your solution will be able to at just the problem in particular. And secondly, you as an innovator, you're not only innovating in terms of technology, because the solution has to be it has to be innovative. And thirdly, the business model that you're taking that you're willing to use to approach the firm and also hit the market, it has
to be innovative. Like with Silo Africa, we realize, yes, the silos are it is the best solution in the market. It is the best solution to the firm. But is it affordable to them? That is one question we asked ourselves and realize, no, it's not affordable to them because of the high initial course. So we had to go back an innovator again,
what is the right financial model for us as Silo Africa. So we came up with the pay as you go model where we now have to source for funds our own funds that we're both strapping and thus that we are looking also from other financial organizations to be able to find this pay as you go where you fabricate the silos, take it to the farmer and then they're able to pay in installments and that could they're able to pay maybe in two three
seasons or maybe one season because for the five bags that they're losing, that is able to cater for the cost of the silo and that silo goes. Is that the lifespan is around even twenty years. So we have to constantly innovate not just the problem, not just the solution, but also the business models that try using. I like I like the fact that you keep out the solution. The market spoke to you, You went back, fine tune I either pay pay as you go. You know they can afford the capital
cost initial you went back and did a rental cannot break. But I like that talking to the market and recheck it. I really like a lot of thighs for sharing that. Also you could the same question, what would you think your experiences like martaining the cold classroom? What did you get from there?
I know you have the text side a bit, you have to go to the market, but what the effects really give to you When you were doing network and I think I saw your fade, your own your only because I saw when you presents and all that I was able to watch it, But what does did you get from that experience? Like like soone to share, thank you very much. If there's nothing again from effects is the importance of you know, speaking with farmers. When I came into the POS,
my intention was to design and app and us as the internets. However, after observing and taking some classes from the especially from the effects of Commodity X and the effects it repuilt, so I realized that even though effects seems to work from the technical side perspectively, but the main job was done in the
background, which we do really see. So there is the people's or the feet of these as and all that were constantly you know, engaging with famers physically to make sure because in and you have, like I say, physical can get my really matters based on our cultures and who we have become. So we cannot just say okay, this is what it wants. What we get to help understanding problems that exist and secondly the the need for prove. We want to be able to prove to them that okay, we're not just
saying it or can the most thread liked work. So after it is an intin class we have to go back to the our design and said, okay, we cannot just give from my USC they're not going to use it. However, we notice that from every farmer IMD which are from I can make the goal. You could receive a coal harbor. We fly to get Ibero solutions so that we can we get this fromizing Highberal instead of the us AD. Right, those are the first thing. Then it's accounting about. It
is that we need to be able to measure skill. We need to be able to measure results effects have been doing this way done so at any program they like, they always have in these statistics, the analytics and everything, so you know what is working and you can iterate further. So mostly you have to be able to measure disources manual. You have to talk to the people. We have to engage with them and show the communities. So our community a god was physically from me things. I think that get the idea
for because we know we can your see down and reader tradition. We have to integrate. We have to bring this from our good. We have to have community. We have to keep engaging and from that with and get sustainable that that moves further. Loot that look that I'm here, that back and forth the you know of constantly go back to the market to refine we can
have a solution. I think it's the best. We have to keep all refining our solutions to bring it to the market where the market that laffers accepted. Let's get a second high guy to speak if I come out with your coble Michael and an aloo, the guys from the Code Crash club for pointzero Hackton. Let me get Hardy here at Hardy. I've got you here at Hardy as hiding saying, listen to us, propertible, what's your take on?
What about Teddy Tardi going one, Tardi going Edwin? Mister Edwin hiding, Sir, I knew you're coming all the way from Switzerlander believe Taddy mister Edwin. Yeah, I can hear you. Hello, Hello, friends, Hello, everybody ever come. Yeah. I think I was speaking to the guys fanelists that the four point zero hacked on talking about how we're killing acting models across Africa. And I don't know when you joined, but we're talking
to some really bright guys that had speaking. I watch your take. Yeah, I'm happy to join in and anyway, just a little bit of my background. I work for more than three years with Swiss agricultural sector, so we build a high tech solution for the corporative. So I find it very interesting that Young was taking the effort to build a digital solution. So I just need to give some share some of my experience working with Swiss and the
cultural sector. So the the name of the industry is called Finnacle. They are closed to modern five. Even though about agricultural sector from make production to maize a different kind of productions. So the the what is the main driving force for Swiss finals? From my experience, the most important thing is corporative. So the biggest driving force is the corporative society. So the industry we work for is a corporative. So it's not the veriest not for profit organization.
So it's a very big, powerful corporative. So what had what did they do? Now? If you look at the life cycle of fame and fam, I'm talking about not only honorary five. I mean I'm talking about about portray, I'm talking about how reality. So all those processes are integrated. So apps is a good thing, but behind the scene, there's a large fire away a lot of processes, business developers, researcher as, research
institute, farmers. So let me let me just use this simple case study how it goes, so that maybe I can share some of your ideas. A Swiss farm, a Swiss farmer every season they get from the society what they have to plant. If you're planting, this is in necessity might be planting put it now. The institute sometimes they can do through the system requests
for soil sampling. So the organization they decorporated, we send researchers to the farm and then they would check the exampling of the soil and then they can deter me the kind of fatalize that they need to use for the seasoned farm and whether the land would be because you can fund every year, there's some they do crop rotations, some of lenus in securities coop so and then when they start farming, the corporative also provide most of the tractors, the technologies
they use for five with the machines, so they don't even buy them. Most of them they run from the communities. And now when they are harvesting time, they say community will provide them those tructors and the trusting thing comes
in when they are harvesting. They have to sell most of their products also to the community, to the corporative society who we also sell it to a post of the big warehouse, and sometimes they combine the the product add for exports or for locus, so they know what trust itself to the today seller market price or is it like a guaranteed government price to you to have a
size and that look their communities. So the community, corporative community decide they com produce, society decide the price so they can have Because every year most of the farmers get the opportus aware they have to produce to avoid the production or less production, so they have the government to through the budget stipulate what amount of maybe for example NUCs rice that we have to import and how much rice we have to produce locally, so they jungle with these figures and then
they share with the farmers. Okay in a back looking you have to produce only fifty thous this year, we're expecting maybe pomper have less, we have to import, so they kind of less player and not the government to regulate or control the famine industry, so we do not have overpopulation, over production or less production. So to get it right in nature, I think they're
doing the writing. So one I'm trying to say is that not only to take the behind They say it's a lot far will lot of complicated p finding process. I can tell you from my experience we have a system. We are by the farmer at less people got another cycle. I think good points You've made an if you can frown cycle, Okay, let round up. So the few points I want to share is the one is cooperative society is very important. Two is, like the farmersticus say about all science, talking
with the farmers. Find out where their problem is before you move to tech. So you have to get the farmers. And then three is I don't know how far There's a Swiss company in Cando set so I don't know how much how involved Singeenta is. Most of them are taking industry, so they are very flexible. You can reach them if if any of you need help. I can contact them because I have contact with the head office in Switzerland, so if any tech industry want to have a collaboration with them, I
can help out with that to work. You see, so they have when they called higher crofts. They are not genetically with the flying that they are crofts that helps produced high if you feel in fact. So I'm here just to see how I can thank you for so much for that, and I do up shore to the insight. Coming from a tech party, you cannot the experience in Switzerland how they are connecting not just the tech finance, also with the off taker at the corporated. Very very important point. I especially
like what a text has done. And this is the first one. I have no conversation of linkin thin tech and Agrik and I think this is young guys avolution, that it's not just a talk, but it's at least meet behind it. Let me ask you guys like this this question right on, what would you say has been the main contribution? This is for Michael of course Ya Cobo, I don't see earlier. I think it has dropped up Michael Lecubo. What would this have been the main contribution of effects to scaling
your your solutions? Michael have mentioned that you you have gone for previous Hecaton's in Kenya. In terms of this Hacoton, what you say is the main contribution of scaling these solutions that you have now generated. How would you rate
the what would you like to see happen? Go ahead? So well, first of all, I'd really love to thank ex for the competition we had in kinds of the idea that we had prayer to when we're pitching or being given h these talks on how to best pitch ideas, how to best present to ideas and when it comes to the main competition that was in Nigeria. I really love the firesight chats and the panel sessions that we had. Some of them are really you know, it was like getting so much information from
from legends in the game. I remember, I don't I don't remember a number those. This lecturer I believe she was a lecturer from Lagos. Maybe you can't remember how she was listed for one of the panel panel panel Gaza particularly spoke to me a lot, spoke to my solution a lot. So let's say mostly what effects really helped me or all the advice I got from people who have been in the game already got you? So what's more less the the whole out, the whole apart from the networking. Is that what
you're saying, the whole camarade? Yeah, I thought you guys have been from you, guys have been games some part from your presentations. Did have all help? Yes, yes, that that all helped in in shaping our ideas and making us you know, better better a group people in the industry. Did you learn anything from any other contest and like copy something? Did you that they touched you that you're now implemented in what you're doing, which
are a solution? Yes, yes, mostly from your coogle and when he really mentioned about you know is a Ruboman but you can you can read you also in game muscle that really spoke to me. I thought I had I was genius and you know a lane for translations from different languages. But I realize that's also a problem because so many people can drink but hos many people can understand that they can treat their languages instead of that, is there a
language for farmers? Would you say English or natives can be a better way to communicate tech to farmers like Magias Soult the lesters in mobile phones. I don't think it's all those things not in English. But do you think a farmer that's not educated, not literate right, can understand say a simple tech on a phone without having a luck English. Do you think that's possible? And it is what we will should buy for It would be possible for urban
farmers. But in our systems I believe we need to have inclusivity as a whole systems. I believe. So if in a way you can have your system start starts people from all alongases can understand it, the better. If yousould not interact for a certain niche make take further to look. All right, couple, So your couple just the same question, right, how has the effects platform supported the innovation you're scaling? Really? How has effects like
supported your winning solutions? What do they do? And what do you do to keep on making higher and higher? And of course helping the productivity here priculment acquating jobs all that better? All right, thank you very much. Let me start from the perspectives of mentorships and room with them many competitions and most times although their texts and agriculate your body, they are not reading into the autoing them systems value just trying to get you moving with bonding. But
for effects they were there. They were then defeat that is what they do. So and when you have somebody that does something, it becomes easier for you to kind of copy them because they were not They know, they know the problems, they know the solutions, and you know you are you are with them. They give it the insight point of touching the particular application of it, and you know that okay, this work, this doesn't work.
Then when I moved down to the mentorship the class I had a the fault book can really opened my eyes design thinking, product management, all of them. I could measure the names of people, but it's in the exhaust Then talk about the people that came in. There were people who have much more
experience than I do in different agricultures. So we inter elected and you know, I was able to get to my day things I think was working or what it was right, and I also able to value the detail that I'm able to them moving out for they were freed was also like top notch.
It is one of the kind they also moved out to. With the pitching section, here, I think I have my mentory, my pigitary so for correction them that was mysteried and he has to chain my pitch several in swapping over like me was during the session itself or when when did he when was this happening? Okay, So after the first boot camp, we were asigning mentors that we have to reach out when the process, you have to send me your pitch so that you can rebew it and you know, correct the
writings. So and during that time I had to write the hook bogs of Peach and asked to make sure it's going and I literally remember he woke up adding twelve foot clock in the morning. He died to the main competition where he was revealing it how to kind of mentally do everything kind of practice practice, timing everything, how I deliver everything was kind of practice practice practice.
So by the end of it, how I cannot well people, even when I came to this stage, I know exactly one I need to say, even without the peat tech, and exactly work point that needs to because I've done them as a band to bagain and he swapped those things so much that I like that because he said that it is not about you actually speaking. You need to know your idea of it. You are not going to be giving it points every time when you're meet invest or, when you need to
talk to pout. So if you need a part point or help, you're not afraid to convey your physic idea and I miss you to learn what you're doing, so you have to swap in many times so that I could. So moving on to that, I also had some team from you know, the exposure, also giving myself to partnerships and go to middle of people's partner
with them and of course it's it's a little going on the way. Thanks my great a, put my child and your I'm going to come to as a final question on I'm going to ask you how you see your app in the next five years and how you think what's your friend from this? A text like at all will take your app awareness today the next five years. But I'm not going to clear as folks. I want to speak to their hands ups and I'm going to ask them to speak. I'll come back to
you ask the question for what Michael Yakobo I can't seem to find. I think it's dropped up. I'll set him the question for Wait, you see your app in the next five years and how do you think what you have laned at the apex Hakaton. It's going to take you day five years. Let's get one pole on poles. Hello everyone, thanks for having me.
I'm from Brazil and I've been your conversations like the last one Ricks they have the chance to speak, but it's very interesting to understand and know about Nigeria. I spasically want to actually ask you the main challenges of the A Group business in Nigeria. And I would like to add as well. Then two years ago throughout the Rotary Club some of you knows Rotary, my dad was
governor and we are doing it. We started a program. We started a conversation with a group in Legos Lagos, right in Nigeria in your to exchange some programs. You know, Brazil, it is quite it's quite a head regarding Arcrow technology education. We have a case in a certain region of Brazil, the center west of Brazil where ANARI attendees to twice the size of Nigeria.
That was not you couldn't form there at all. And throughout certain programs partnerships, education, financial programs, coaching and follow up from this Embrapa, who doesn't know Embrapa, please take a look on Google. We have very good programs that we could share with Nigeria, you know, so we're trying to do that, like a couple of years ago. We had actually a meeting with the back then I think was the assistant of the Secretary of Agriculture.
I'm not I'm not sure, but it didn't go through. So it would be very nice to know the main challenges you have and and how you see throughout corporation with other countries, other companies from these different places. Than what do you do in order to help you in this challenge? Is actually that's make question. I would say, speak of myself, and there's a pomer here, speak of myself. I think the main problem in Nigeria is
power supply. So across urban, rural industrial, the power supply Nigeria is non existence or unreliable. So what that means is that if you go to rural areas where you have the actual farming, you can do post production. So take for instance, maze which is or rice right is a staple in Nigeria. The mills need power or generator us to run. Hence their cost
of production does go up. So when the final output is out, it's expensive and most niger adds very low income can afford it, even though we have to party rights in Nigeria. When we process it out, the cost of processing makes it very expensive, so power supply very very expensive. Fetializers are also expensive in Nigeria because most of the farmers don't can afford the vices are so yield director also very very very very low. They're talking about things
like irrigation. We're still doing a ring fed farming in Nigeria, but the bo the northern areas where we have the bok farming, we have a few dams there, but irrigation is the problem. Then you come to storage where we have bumper harvests, but we only have corn in the count season, really have mando the mano season. We don't have the capacity to stare and a truth of cold chains or warehouses where we can keep these products and then
use them all year round. So it books like impects at the speech and to do the warehousing to get that market where you can take a good as a farmer and put But these are the main it's really an infrastructure problem for Nigeria. You know, in terms of the family yields. Where the largest producer of yams lisperser of cassava, one lisperser of milliads, so cute, nothing that can grow in Nigeria but store it to take it from the raw
agricultural produce to take to post post harvest processing story. That's where the main bottomneck lies in Nigeria. Family is very difficult. I'm not going to talk about insecurity because that's a different level altogether where we have serious insecurities in the food basket. But even before we have that, we have this issues of power, infrastructure, logistics and all that. We have many guys come try
to fix that. We've had the US do the acage, which is to take like Legos Cannol and to create cold chains and warehouses along that corridor hasn'tly panned out. Affect is the private sector concern and also do warehouse in a quator context change. They're working on that. And so if you just into this podcast and blacks are about break, you see where the problems in Nigeria are. Finance is something else. So you see this syst a lot of
thin tech and all that. So there's a lot. I mean, if you want to get connected, I can connected to effects or I feel like guys, if you want to send me ADMA can just hand you up and say okay, talk to this person. The problemsure are a lot and I'm trying to be, you know, to be really patriotic. It's a lot. There's not one thing that we have fixed in agriculture in Nigeria. We can't say we have fixed power or infrastructure or storage or financing. So that's
the problem, yea. So maybe if we can add something, then it's quick interest this part of ours Nigeria. He wanted initially and specifically to manufacturation ration for the cattle because he said, you have several issues regarding culture where the cattle it actually doesn't stay in one place, right, you don't have the grass bridge. So then we came it's logistics and energy issues regarding the companies. They want to go there and build the silos and manufacture some part
of this ration there. So it was a lot of challenges honestly, and it's exactly the same as you're telling Quick. At the time, Nager was going to imput grass from Brazil to feed cattle and the ranches. I don't know if you're aware of that. There was supposed to be a big thing I think was the past first ten of the past administration soup from twenty fifteen
twenty sixteen. We're aware of that, No, no, specifically, not specific, Okay, Yeah, we wanted to import the grass, the grass that order to feed the cows in the ranches because that we have this blue branded culture of Catalan natuas where to put ranches bringing the grass growing so the farms could eat on side of the ranches where that pitted out a will. So yeah, thanks for jumping in under shame or talk to appreciate that. Yeah, farmer, you go. You have a quick quick question that I
will go back to your elude Michael. Yeah, yeah, cause so one of the things that you said that God really laughing hair was where he said those farm already have is a language they really communicate, you know, where you say they're really good laughing hair. And and you're very correct because I altered a book called the Rise of Digital Agriculture and that these are simple from
the mental issues or problems that actually affects a cultural solutions and technology. You could build a systematic, you know, beautiful solution app either true and web enabled or through an absolution. And you finally very difficult that you can't.
You can you can make a small older farmer possibly living in somewhere let me use REGAA inflating karad rate card where you have large light tones of farmers in clusters the actually farminge soybeans, and you have a super platform or superweb solution whereby it's easy for them to make transactions or for them to do contract famine or whatever I want to do. Because your code they stepped using in English
Langue and you don't understand how do you communicate this to them? Now, these are simple gaps that technology providers, solution providers need to begin to close up as fast as possible. I was I was working with a group of guys start up guys in Kebby just about last year. So they have these specific solutions which would build and the idea was it was localized so that using the part of AI. So when you speak out language okay and you grab
that automatically, they app understands what the farmer is your question for. So so every up developer needs to begin to look at how that the big ow they could localize their solutions so that it could feed into the world of every small or the farmer. And don't forget that not all small other farmers do have Android phones. Do have to do have your ideas or your Apple or your you know, superphones. Some of them are to working with your SSD.
Okay, I'm sorry your your future phones. So as you working with you know, those small phones. So how do you communicate your simple solutions so that so these are gaps that actually are still existing. I begin to look at ways we can actually begin to close those gaps for a typical smaller farmer that doesn't even understand English. But we'll be able to use your ab effectively and make some sense, you know, using it, and everybody makes
money. So those are the gaps that are still quite existing because our farmers are still typical lookal, they don't not all of them understand English. If you into preach for them, isn't an extension officer, but you need to bring solutions down to the farming area where they could easily absorb and they really
easily use it, you know, at their comfort zone. Simple. Great, Thanks, thanks farm And maybe even when I meant with a serious question, like when I when I see United Voice y voice making cold, they'll say they're doing x XML. Whether you're doing from New Daily, or you're from near Weed, or you're from San Francisco, they seem to understand what they're saying, so they speagnoses, they are code, they're writ and whatever
it is, and they seem to get along right. So I was saying, if there's something that is there that it's okay, a farmer in Kenya and a farmer in Nigeria would be able to just convert or conversate about soil, about climate, about rainfall. I don't understand what they were saying, right, Like, I really love Michael's solution. I want to us an happier states. If I plug it in, we'll just give me visual to say, song, I'll see here the song or I see red there's either
the soul well things like that. So I could pick up on him even if I don't speaks what heal, I would understand exactly what he's uh,
he's saying just basually that's actually where I'm going to. So that is a fantastic So guys, let me try to because on hours like and let the guys go back and enjoy at your weekend and almost at the hour if you guys won't make a start of spaces immediately after this, so you can do a normal spaces for guys, Let's start from in held at The question is I'm going to be elude your coble And of course, Michael, where do you see your app your solution? Tell us about it. Where do you
see it in the next five years? And where do you think or how do you think what you've lent from this APEX could crash come from on zero Hackton would end. Would basically empower you to get there. So what is your app in the next five Go ahead and go to flow Elude, then
your couple then of course Michael, Okay, thank you very much. Calou I can say, first of all, I was very empowered being being a finalist the called cash Croup and like I said, the highlight the highlights of the event, apart from me winning coming second coming hard actually the second runners was that ill I got approached by the Worlderful program to work with them, to partner with them. That was the biggest highlight, the biggest dilight you
can and the world yes, to work with them. Is it going to be in your specifically or where you're gonna work with them? Is just really starting the go ahead? Sorry, sorry I lost him right? Are you going to work for them just in one country or across Africa? Where are you going to basically work with the world. Basically we are starting with the key because this is where we are piloting the program. But it will be scale the definitely to all the African regions. But can you be using it
as a as a as a launch part. So that was actually the highlight. So just to encourage their innovators in this case, like you never know who you're talking to when you're going to pitch, you never know who you're talking to. One person in the audience can change your life. And for us was that it was you effects you give us a platform that is I don't know, I don't know how to express it, but yeah, it
was begger for us a self. Yeah, well it facts. Good job it facts, good job elude, I mean, good tim very happy pen I minutes. On the personal level, like I said, this alone has changed to watch your channel your ass up the next five years. But if you work the ones with program able to scale this out, that's gonnably just massive for you. I wish I can bring all three of you in five
years. But to say where are you today from the five years, I wish I could do that in five yess that we never know, we might not to do that. They are, but keep us in your little nextwork. Let's just let me know what you're doing. I would appreciate that. Correctory couple send with you. Wait to see your happen next five years and how do you think it particulate? Thank you very much. For us, there's one thing we are driving at this I think innovation and for us look
like automation and mechanization. But we know that that will not happen without solving the under rot problems. So, like I said, the first thing we need to do is to bring our firm at awareness through education. They need to know what is wrong and what need to be done after they gonna move them. For us, we save, we serve as startup as one startop the heap automate. Like you mentioned, a lot of problems right that time, logistics and all of that, but we believe that with the right technology
we could solve that. Of course that's the're glority to solve that yet or how do you the systems that need to take place that could have So for us, we're kind of clearing the olde. We are trying to see how automate farm in the smallest way, starting from fertilizers, prayer Joan sprayers down to can automate logistics, well, can use even if it's helicopter, we're
going to use what the vice is. There was a scene how we can introduce mechanization, which means the family need to move from the celebrated lands, those smaller land they used to a very people and which involved was working with movements and some other agricultural bodies. Then the education factor, irrespectable of whatever language of education, they should be a language and you're the shuperial language from we understand and that language is skill. So we need to be able to
scale those farmers. And at the end of it all, we should be able to bring youth to this game. Many ut runs in with because of our cultures. But if we can drive in technology, they can bring you them so and that you tear ourself in the next few years. More for research more from application input perfect perfect, Thanks circle by again. Contractions on your wind person you want to go to with your windings? Okay, thank
you very much. Right now, we've been discussing endlessly with most competive and we we've started segregating our formatic closters. Presently, now we have then closters eaching, then closed our meeting closer content them people. So right now my team already on swift trying to build us them where why are some of them are already talking on defeats. So but of first we need to identify the
problem. So we are talking to people like my ITAs and all of that are trying to gather the datas because it's all we know the mainments of itater that we can effectly solve it. So we then we're trying to build your first joucture and drive technology. So I could say that we thank you. We focus on on trying to get the little that dos and need to or results because let me get that resor we can come back to your west and like, okay, we thank you. This is well we're able to do.
If you give us one then we can do timestain of these kind of times. One days of these within these times gives So I get that aping now perfect, perfect, good jobecable and I'm good in Michael. As one policy you're an able to make you speak at the Michael. So Michael, go ahead and thank you so much. This questions the question that you just asked, things like the usually asked in the interview processing and care in five years and we can kind of a judge your best off the answering give.
But I think it's a different context because what you're building is a service for people. So the real answer that's question is well seem saying five years as where the market places it. So if the market fixes it and that set sits in a way, I believe in it can be hopel in Limin Can for mostly Huban farmer school. They've moved a new place. I don't know
what's to grow where to grow it. I believe it can be a hub where farmers can be able to talk to each other because you also have community space such that you can be able to talk to farmers who are growing the similar crops that you're green too, you can talk to them. It can be the way that st digitizes it. Agree with industry, which is a billion dollar industry in Kenya and I believe I multi billion dollar industry in Africa.
So I've seen s bewhere the market places it in five years? Got okay simple a short times Michael. I'm looking always your best food you as whilst you were in West Africa Nigeria. Did you remember any tust that you at. I only touched you. Yeah, I love the jello fries. The jello fries was really nice. But the first way not all they give us. Everything was preparative. But to tell them now to turn it down, Okay. Then finally I believe I had some Jello fries, so it
was really nice accent. Just so you know, right, Jello frice was independent in Nigeria. Only Nigeria do jello fries, No other Africa countries. So you seek Anya after you Delo frizing model Jello fries and Nigeria export right, So just just let you know when you go back to East Africa that Jello fries is Nigeria and Nigeria. Yeah, man, all right, super one, Paul, you had you had at your hands off, sir,
Yes, sir, thank you so much for having me again. Actually a specifically to Allwood and everyone here that it's interested in the topic, actually represent the Chamber of Commerce pursue in India. We're doing a specific emission in January in New Delhi. Where do you think about thirty to forty companies in the business regarding tech food processing and tell you with your program, your actually your program is great. I was taking a look about CIO Africa. I think
you could share a lot of things. You know, Pursue has a lot to offer and to learn. You know, can share a lot of things. So just give give you my invite. Then the ones they're interested who could talk in DM share experiences. Maybe we have people here to invest and work together. And if you guys have the chance, please go to Newdall in January. They would be a very important meeting regarding this specific area. Yeah, at one point, if you want to go on to DM and
share, I can do that for you as well. If you DM it, I can also yourself you share case books or not what it's talking about. Swim going to be there and also Calude Yakbo Michael also if he wants to also stem DM dm me maybe like a fly that's not your link, what your solution was and all that, that would be wonderful. So folks that listen to you in case I want to go to that spec pick up
or site and see what you'll do with that. Just dm me is something that can I can retweet that will have the solution or watch or whatever it is, right it's folks, and just follow and see the progress you guys. Make it down also be fantastic. All right, guys, thank you someone. We try to spend an hour just so we can have this record is going to be on of course the Twitter's x space to record and also going to be on the podcast link. The podcast is just going to be
on my profile. It's also going to be on the youtubeer and go back and you know, just really rewind and rehear this particular presentation. I'll just say special, big big big text to effects up. I'm saying their name rights. You know, not a lot of corporates do the talk right, also do the work. It's always a lot of we are supporting agriculture,
and they say this because they want to take that box of Nightgeria. Because once in Niger you say your support agriculture, it's like saying you are supporting a lean. You know, it makes you look that you are quote and quote you know, patriotic. But they go for them. They're doing this, you know, they're they're taking you to and asking them what is your
idea how can you scale agriculture? And these are very very easy solutions that are talking about these are not far fit solutions are not like esoteric solutions, are things you can do tomorrow. And they're basically bringing it and saying this is what we have done and we can scale just the idea sharing a loan.
Were on Twitter space now talking about because we talk busts from you from Kennya with guys from Nigeria and about how their solving progress and Apex has made that happened with the price money, with the networking with the constant shares on social media right and they have their own day job. You know, in their day job, they run not a warehouse in the communities exchange in in Nigeria. They have on a note that they are basically so we see markets
and allow you to invest in agriculture as a retail investor. So as a recent investor, you can buy their note as a community exchange you as a farmer, you could store your grains in their warehouse. You can investor in party Rascal because you could buy products from them and trade. Also heading to head inflation. So they're doing a lot and we'll see more called for it to actually go down not to rule and to the actionable level and impact and
culture at that very very low rural level. That's what we want to see. The more we do that, the more we bring in the tech and the thin to agrek that, the more we can scale all those of advocate has been left too much to just rainfall and pour from us going to go into that space and really bring it back up, because once we bring out
of culture up in Nigeria, that's a way to kill poverty. Tenty percent of Nigeria's n point of your culture ten tips and of our GDP contract your culture, so just to one percent shift and agriculture, it's going to have a massive impact on an employment and poverty. So what Affects is doing is fighting poverty at the very very roots of it. Are using as we say,
a de alop metal. So I appreciate them. I just want to say I would have wished a lady would have been here as either or a winner or either as a finalist so we could just get you know, their insight. I think the ladies have a lot of ideas. They are a lot of exact lo on Twitter that are doing lots of stuff with the poetry
space, in the community space, in the practice space. So I don't know if there's going to be a quote to have, but I would love befext to to really target and say, we want to make sure we have you know, that participation. We want to get those folks in here so we can have them to talk about the experience as well. In Africa. They're big. I mean, they are more than the workforce have to work force in Africa and they are involved in that space. So Michael elude yakobook
conditions to you guys, you're all winners. Thank you all so much for helping onto this space with me this Sunday. We're here every every seven o'clock at seven post African time, and so we're gonna just end this not right here and next week are don't have a guess. We're gonna talk about Nigeria, Canada, US immigration. We're going to do hr invest thing. We'll easily going to be about if I want to leave Nigeria and go abroad, what do I need to know both to get a job, both to invest
abroad? What do I need to do to buy a house? That we're going to give you the fast the figures, you know, like experts ideas, so you don't go there and you're struggling for advice and you lose what or two years or you do the wrong thing. So I'm sure you have to do it right. I'm going to make an HR guy from Canada to just talk to you. So bring you questions and we'll try to answer them next week. So their po. What's a good time on that now, guys, let me let you guys, well go. If your team won'ts
soccer this weekend, good job. If your team didn't win, well, there's a lot next week. I'll see you guys next week. My name is carlu Aga. You guys have a great day. Thank you a lot for dragging in epics. We love you, guys, or a guys by ticket