Power Tarriff Hikes, How can the consumers save money?

And today we have to we say it's still money today, right, we're talking the new power tariffs, not the tarret itself. The times I hear power has increased, the cost of power has gone up, and as consumers and as folks as spend money, we want to find out how we can save money, how can we not get a tariff. So we're not only going to talk about the tariffs per se. We don't want to talk about

band AVE, band B and the policy around me. We are simply trying to say, hey, what is technology out there that can allow me to save money for my family? So not that's in that scary like if you use your egg conditioner for five hours, you spend a thousand night round one thousand per night just to use your air conditioner. So it's a lot. So I'm not an expert, but I know it's been good for bringing expert here that understand how they can. That's what it is all about. So

it's good. And here I have a few guys that want to bring them up and they're going to talk about their solutions and hopefully we can pick two from there. Also share the flyers that they are called to action. So if you're interested in them. After the space, you can reach back to them and then hear what they have to offer. That's essentially what we would

like to do today. First of a follow me thank our kind sponsors who have agreed essentially to sponsor the space for us, just to shout out to the guys that Market Intelligence and g I use them essentially if you want to trade in Nigeria. They give you actionable data. You know, sentiments and ask and all that you subscribe you get that information allows you to trade more informed. I also share the handle on the space as well, and so you guys can just be also full. So let me start with my friends

giins. I got three of them today. I'm gonna start with my friends gains. This is from Energy spelled A R N E G y R Energy. Thanks for space. If you guys want on the mute, just on mute and we can start the space. Thank you so much, Hid everybody, thank you for having us here tonight. So my name is Joshua and from Energy. And also i'll be having one of our class executives who is speaking. His name is Peter and I believe that he's already I see him.

Yeah, I see him, so sending him an invite already, yes, quested, and we'll add him. So both of you are on point. Now, yeah, there we go. All right, so Energy, welcome to the space. I mean, the folks that you didn't hear. We're not power experts. We know what mega is, I don't know what difference is and all that. What I want to know release how I can save money. But I just start to just give us an intro about your company. Who are you guys? How did we get to power? Let's

know? You take it off? Go ahead, all right, thank you. I would allow okay to take it up from here. Energy is a renewable energy company where we deal in clean energy and we we look and hope to enhance thisbility and reliability of electricity of energy within homes and businesses. And further on that, I would just like to hand over to the redentity from the organization who has been prepared to take from here. Sure is all right? Please happy that you're muted. You can hear me. All right,

So we wait for Peter to okay, Peter has dropped off. So Peter has dropped up. I'm gonna add him again. So let me just make sure he's back and there he can speak. Peter, go ahead, hell, yes, we can hear you. Go ahead, shoot everyone can Yes, go ahead. Thank you for having us and giving us his platform to interact. Good everyone, pleasure to be here. My name is Peter speaking of the allergy So thank you. All right, So I mean give us

your journey. Really she's the company. Then moving to the power story real quick, who are you guys? What do you guys do? Go ahead, all right, thank you? So Energy Solar Limited to me because still hear me, I can hear it's echoing a lot here, all right, I just power show. So yes, Energy Solar Limited is an alternative,

reliable energy company. We've been around for ten years now in the market, really coming in when the solar space was still as infancy or solar as a solution was still as em fansy, particularly you know in this part of the world. And over time we sort of like have played out played in different spaces, from powering minigrants to providing alternative power sources to residentiales and offices.

So Energy today ours you know residentials from your you know apartment's be owned to standing lowe houses as well as also providing power to SNS offices as well as industrial complex. So that's energy to be gotcha, welcome some let'sters get into it right. You've seen the power tariffs in simple and short term. They expensive for most Nigerians we earn minimum wage. Like I said, I saw that. Yes, this someone set to use the egg conditioner for for one

night, they're gonna play almost a thousand era. How can energy exist for me? If I have a house in car or Legos? What can you guys do to this? To my deal? That's what wants to do? Really? All right? Great? So as as you're aware, we have different types and the power consumption of homes defer significantly, right, So what we have done is we have standardized as solutions to fit different patent types.

So a typical two bedroom apartments, we have a drinking are a sept that would typically power you know a superdroom apartment before and how sold that's conservative in your consumption? Wow? For a three bedroom for bedroom apartments, we have you know, people using between five kilo arts to ten kilo at systems to

power their apartments. Right again, just to explain how this works, I think Nigeria a lot of us understand generating sets and you know a simple way to compare this would be to see that it typical generating sets that powers in two apartments you know, will be getting you between three to five kilo apartments of energy. So that's we have a solution that basically matches that generating sets

in terms of capacity. Wows when you sort of like skill that to you know, your disil general to you know, those that typically our larger facilities. You know, so you have the system which is a changing the wards system that can sort of like our four terrrist building and and and oh he dropped off. I was enjoying with Peter. If you can hear I can hear you, Peter, Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, I can. Yes, you dropped off a bit. Let's just just perfectly just poof

follow right. I have a four point five KNV generator. What is that if I converted to like watch your say, like a four point five what what would that be if I converted? Thank you? So if five that would convert I give you and we currently have you know, variations of that give you system in our you know products. Now, what the major different that we typically have with our products is the amount of battery storage that we

layer on top of the system. And again for people who are not very familiar with the solar, what typically have is you have parts on your roof that basically provides energy from the sun, right, and when you generate this energy, it's typically powers the load that is put on in your house at the time when that TV is generating energy from the sun, and then whatever excess power you're generating that you're not consuming can destroyed in the battery from nights

consumption. Right. So typically, yes, what gives you an even better that matches the size of this generating capacity that you mentioned. So the closest in our product book to what you have mentioned or be a five k inverter. Now that means that in terms of the loads that you're able to put on that generator set, you will be able to replicate the same amount of load on a five kV In fact, Now, what do the panels do for you, which is to a unit of kilwards our peak, they basically

generate energy. So you will have as many panels as possible and build up as much generation from this sun as possible. There's no full world, that's no matter how much scale up your panels in the roof. The only loads your house can power as a time is to the capacity of your inverter. You compre sise to side with your generator set is the invert capacity. Okay, okay, I got that point. If we are to go away from this call with anything your generator set in terms of size, you can match

that in capacity. What you time means if you can put on your or not okay, you can put on your fish, freezer and butter and the microwave. It's basically depended on the size of your So quick questions okay, quick uick questions? Can can be panels? Generate power? If there's no song light, like there's no sun, there's just light, still generate power. There's no sun, but there's power, but there's just lights. Can you still generate electricity there's no song light, it's like the cloud. Can

you generate power? Yeah? So the the efficiency will be very very low, right, that's the reality of right. So in setive, for example, if anyone the legal in time, the generation will be very very low. However, the you have the option of always having sufficiency to ensure that whilst you're consuming, you could still have sufficient to store your battery. And the beauty of systems that are sophisticated is the visibility that you're able to get.

So typically, when I had the generator maybe fifteen years back, you know, I could never see, you know, data on the generator real tipe. I just know that when before well finishes in the generator and the top of right at best maybe I could see the gauge of the well, you know. But it is the beauty of it is that you can monitor your consumption. You can monitor your generation, and you can monitor your bors

how far your battery has charged. And then also that can also give you clear ideas on how much battery life your battery has in terms of consumption as the second load you're currently priory in your house. So what that means is that the same way we use our iPhones android phones, where we look at our battery and we know that, okay, we have sixty percent of charge on our batteries and this will practice suffice to go without charge for the next

six hours because we understand the usage. Similarly, for the solar systems that we have in the markets to do, which are quite sophisticated, you're able to actually monitor real time. You know what happens when you reduce your consumption and you see how many more hours you're able to consume for And then you see that as you also increase your consumption, perhaps you turn on one easier saces, it would also reduce the amount of hours you would be able to

keep the system on fold. So those are some of the things that constomers tend to benefit and how we also become more in expeficient because they have data to guide them. Okay, so let's get some boats of this. Right, the new band a has increased the power cost of If how much is this inverta? I would save me money if I had to put a five kV inverta all in and I did, whatever, how much do they cost me? How do they cost me this whole? So in five kV invertera?

And again it's important to know that the invert does not work in isolation. Right, so you probably need to have a full installation done but an inverter. If I give you the price, it may not be just getting this inverter and your work. So I just got to put that clarification. But if you want to know the price, again, it ranges depending on

the substication of the inverter and the several products in the market. Energy does not sell an invert isolation typically sell you know, a fully integrated systems that comprise of panels in better and batteries. Right in some exceptional cases we could we could decide that because of the building type, or just both inverta and

a battery solution, which means it's a storage solution. But you're not generating energy, so you're probably storing power from your energy sources so that you can when you're you don't have power from other sources, you can utilize what your story batteries question. Yeah, I'm just going to get the cost. Like if I come to your office, I want to buy a five case the whole package, the solar panel of to just go how so what we have done and I would I would ask you a question, but to give you

a sense of how we're thinking about the market opportunity for customers. We have ensured that first thing is we mentioned that the life span of the insplution that we bring to the market is long, so that customers get to put it's over a long period of time and can fix their energy costs for a very long period of time. What we saved it inflation is that you know,

power keeps power. Conscripturising is costly prising, but it's so that the real beauty of it is that when you make the investments today, the maintenance fee is very minute, almost insignificance. You can enjoy it for as many as ten years. So what we have done is that we have two product types. We have the product type that on both product types we can see you

that you would enjoy these assets for a very long period of time. We have one way we give you a five year warranty and we have another product where we give you a ten year warranty. What that means is that any product video would be completely managed by the company. As you would imagine, the price is rate depending on the length of guarantee that we're able to provide. So what we've done is that we've been sensitive to the markets and ensure

that our pricing. You know, we give different options and variations to customers for utilities. So even for five years, then we have three products categories. We have a products that you know you will get spar typically around four point six million, and we have another product at nine million, and we have another product at teteen million. All of these different products is just miss

the customers at different entry points. And what we also don't make it easy for customers access is that we have partners with several commercial banks where they're able to give competitive interest rates to allow customers pay over one year or three year

period. So even though it has the prices it's from like you know, it's in the millions, but they are customers today who are been fitting from our partnership with the banks that allow them pay you know, between one hundred and fifty thousand a month to three hundred thousand and write a month over a period of time. They're able to pay a completely commut full ownership of those

assets. Of course, the require just to be clear, right, So what's the the four point five is the four point five point nine want? What is it? Like? The core difference is they warrantee yeah, yeah, very good points, sir. So the difference between the cheaper option is one of the warrants is right, so on on the on the cheapest option

we have the warranties are shorter. Also in terms of the look and feel of the products, the the the look of the products, right, the nine million products, you can put it in your sitting room and it would be there. It looks very presentable. Right with the with the cheaper option, it's you know, it's it's a discretion. Now that would I wouldn't suggest people put that in there in the living room. The product it looks different. But also in terms of the length of time that we also able

to support you and give you a full warranty of the products. It tends to be shut and so the warranty, the in esthetics more or less determined. This just costing more less different, Okay, And then you said, so it's going to be the cost is give us take about four and nine. You have banks that are going to step in and fun till name those banks in case A take notes in them. Yeah, great, it's great. So today we work with four banks, and we're signing more partnerships with

other commercial banks. So today we work with s C and D Access Banks, Selling Bank and ambid Bank. So if you have correct account you currently are an account that we lose banks, you can go through your account office or Conto Energy and we would connect it to the right in those banks to help you fully set up. So typically the processes that you get an invoice from us once you accepted the price of that sking voice, but would connect

it to the bank to go and get financing. The banks stores would come install the system for the customer's consumer finance. Okay, all right, So gotn't the first question, which is the cost of Nigeria. So the second question is that if I inst four point five or nine million, am I saving money? It is a business new band increase a saving money? Yes?

So I think it's it's a just yes, right. And the reason is that we also do a computation of the levelized cost of electricity today, right, and we know what the levelized cost of our solution is, so we can compare our pricing our through the pricing of the grid and today in the solar space, we call it is great parity. Right. We will say that the pricing based on the bistens increase in the great price. We we have seen that our solution is as great parity. Now to explain the

constant of great parity. Basic it means that when your alternity source of energy, typically renewables, comes to the same price of the grid or even shaper and today we can tell you that you know, side by side, very objective independent and that it shows that our pricing of our solution is now below the price of the bad ay. And one thing customers need to also understand is that one of the major drivers of costal solar to go upward is dollar.

Right, So because a lot of the pricing of the components are index to the dollar or source off show if we have further evaluations in the in the future its solar, the price of the solar go indeed. Then we had this steep jump to about one thousand cities and engine exchange its our prices were had. But one thing we did as a pump thing was that immediately we saw that there was more stability with effects where able to crash our prices

downwards again just to make sure that the customers can access these reducts. But one thing customers need to be mindful of is that there is that relationship. So today the entry appoint is ship and then if the Nira slides again to the dollar, which we don't hope for, the price of solar would go up again. So now maybe a very good time for customers to take advantage of it. And the beauty of it is that once you've made that investment,

fix your power costs. So if you're coming and you're like, you know what hour on the or your solar solution, depending on the solution it gets is stop two hundred. We can tell you that if you completely go up great today at that price if the data, if goes up, your pricing doesn't change. If goes up, your pricing doesn't change because you're basically fixed your investments in power. And once we've seen with a lot of our customers well use energy for the last five to seven years, a lot of

them are coming back to us say upgrade me. I want to go completely upgrade. And what that means is that you are your independent provider, right, you independent power. You know your facility, your home, your businesses right. And we've seen a lot of offices also take on this opportunity to say, you know what, I want to run my cyber cafe, my small kobs completely off grid. Right. So those are the opportunities that I

think the customers can benefit. And indeed the present is cheaper for band a A. If I was on the national grade and I was on your solution, yours is cheaper for me today, it's cheaper, right, But I also wanted to establish that because of the price point of the door that today, that's why we're able to achieve that. So if customers take advantage of the dollar rates today becoming cheaper. But this thing, the product is also

index to the dollars. So sometimes if the dollar, if the dollar that price in my school, again, I just talked to put that out there. And also I think everyone should be by fool that this direction. You know, over time all all the bands would have cost relative tariffs. So now it's still the right time for people in bad b which would be next to it, you know, sort of switch to a more sustainable, predictable

costal power. So I had to I had to just say something now that that thebout the dollar price is lower, it's an opportunity for go to invest at the utant called lower dollar price because the color goes back up the price. Traders and the general absolutely that's directly all right. So I think I think the bulk of what word to hear from you, and if you guys want if you don't mind, if you want to stay hand see let me guys, I have never had questions to ask you can access if you can,

you can come back to you. I have two other guys that I also like to speak. So if you're hanging there, I'll take a few questions. I'll come back to my folk and then we'll see what mister stone, mister stone diamond, how are you? Do you have a question? Uh? How are you going? Can you could go ahead the question? Sir? What's the question? Say? All right? Actually very very very also want those really really everything now everyone? And all right, I got

you, good point. Let's get my journey notative ques, please go ahead really quick. Okay, watching the works, it's just like the wors. But there is this what's be true? Thick maybe my last probably so now when three kill, that is only the most I think the power, but it has not played a wrong. That's all last and how long it will last depend on what we call the battery. The numbers have the size of batteries and all the energy density energet kill our guys. You were inscribed by

our power forward to the companies. So what I want to ask is I want to know by this but this killer was our what capacity is seltenets? Do power? What's and again how much it is we're head of that us is easy deep side legs. But let us batteries and the last long the number of years last before you use that one? What are you going to start from investments? Okay, let's let's let your man. Let lets you man say okay, tell him so let him ask the question about one you

I did you talk about how long the butches would last? Number two? I had to talk about worst type of batteries. You're talking about the break even point? If I invest four or five for nine million, when do I break even? So let me let me get let me get in to answer people great questions. I mean number one like you said, how what kind of battery when you're working for go ahead? And what can I put on that? Can I put an air conditioner on this set up? You

have and have an air conditioner? Great? So thank you, thanks, thanks for the big question, very very respectful. Again, I think that the way I hear the first and second question is very similar. So the answer is that today are solutions we use little your I own batteries. Right, this is the latest battery technology and whatsider the one that keives the longest livespan, like you rightly said, it's the same batteries that we have in

our iPhones and the same batteries you have in an electric vehicle. Right. The beauty of the litium batteries is that it's has you can get two hundred percent discharge from your batteries, as against the aspect batteries where you can only get fifty percent discharge. What that means basically is that you can use the battery from full charge to zero presents, just same way our food batteries work.

Also, another beautiful thing about this is that you know, unlike the letters batteries that have you know, total for your lives, these batteries can save you for longer than ten years. And this is also why we're able to give you product assurance for five ten years. And this is largely because of the type. So we should and we don't just do that with our batteries. We also use you know, don't see you know panels that can give you to fight your lifespan and they will also you know, bring give

you a won invertters which we also build. Those same warrants is to come

in terms of the playback period and your investments. I think it's largely depends on what you're comparing this tape, right, So if you take the great price point today of the party right, the pay back period tends to be with sugar right, we're looking at depending on your consumption, that could people between two years two to three years you're getting full paper period and for the bands, for those that are still on the old band which is bad before

pricing, paid period tends to be between five to six years, where you would definitely have you know, saved more money than the investments that you have put in. But also let's be mindful that this is assuming that you were consuming twenty four hour supply from the greed, which we all know that even

on the band ad today they're not guaranteeing you twenty four hours. So when you're data pricing you, it starts a fatter in the fact that you know, it's not like people use only Great independently in Nigeria today most people are doing patrol generators and grid some people are doing diesel generators are great. So depending on the current power bill, the payda period tends to be a lot

shorter depending on how high your part is. So a goold way to look at it is applates cost of having twenty four hours power in your house today from alternative sources means perhaps you're getting up to ten hours from the gud right, and you know how much your bill comes to at the end of the month. What that means is that the balance hours that you need to run

your office or household. Let's see the balance hours is indeed fourteen hours, and you power your house it's diesel or with patrol for the balance forteen hours. When you take that cost and multiplied by the number of these months, right, you can use that to divide the cost of the solution your buying. That will determine your paper period, so that in a sense you can say that your payper period could be shorter than a year if you're going off

grid. Propically interesting, Yeah, so you answered the battery type you pay back type. I think you've answered this question. Okay, let's hang on, let me let me hoping the differense track. Peter, I want to bring together that is just doing you guys. Are you guys are new quotes and quote pet me YouTube you don't mind? Just okay, So, Peter, you guys are quote unquote big company more or less mimusing that word. I want to bring a guy that is doing this on his own, maybe

he has a smaller footprint. Also to give us his own perspective to start focus listening. Also get a second perspective, so and energy types of information I want you guys, please hang on. I'm not bringing promise promise, ok one he sent me. And again, guys, what I do today is to give information out on where you can go and get various types of options you can connect to create. You can do the alternatives and all that.

If you're an alternative power provider. As long as you can put on your flyer or make a promise that you'll give a discount, or you can show me savings and you send me your material, I will retoot it bo cost to you and to me. Any guys sent me something for the weekend about a competition, you do a video and you need an inverta, I will after the show if you if you have an alternative to high grade prices, were you want to offer a discount and you want me to share an

information set to my DM, I will share on your behalf. Don't bring in promise promise and if you can hear me you can on muse, I'll just go and do a brief introduction and then we'll just get your own perspective on what you are off into the market society. So promise, can you amuse please? Yeah, okay, probably introduce yourself and all that. So for politics or like a very big or three business and the other type of bucture we are. So what I noticed in this is that most actually do

what you want. They're not like energy efficients, you tend to waste sometimes, but like let's say like staring from the preventing, like let's say five I was on a rap and really for like two months or one month and am for like one week. So it was verified that the one that isn't the five thousand four for one week. It's wings around I'm doing. You

know, what is good to be reliting is one money? You need good stuff, so you're not like an efficient to go and we tend to waste this And actually because this one it's from the because it is free, what are you doing for it? Open? You know alternative now before it's a system. Clients, we want to know what I want to consumed, so many to do work to consume because we are looking it goes go to the

house. This house like it too. Let's give you some five kiving into CONFI system at the end two power the house we got the attend to have modudes you ten have models system at shut down. So what we do won't we go to the customer house? We do a better energy audits. What I want trying to singing? So once together the energy or in the world I wanted not sizing better to the party size and a number of family work.

Now said we have a back. We have the leads me and we are going backs now the religion that is more expensive than the letters it because we don't go long lives. Family don't let char thank you as around then five years depending on your usage. Okay, tell me asking directly right those director. So if again, if I came to you have a whatever flat or house, I just want to have power in my house. You know, I know the free jency all those things. But I have a four

point five key generator. I'm on band A, so I used four point five among band A. I have an usual fridge. Acy what what what what would you? What be your package? What would it cost me? And what will be your advice? To me just so that folks can get that from you and and all that. Yes, this system so it's going to be fives or let us. So now this has different on it. If five system which is that is going to go for some one point five

So now it's constibility, it's fat five hund you need too much. The diver is an ability, but that's not as controller. There's any better judge. Controler needs the number of so in five flower systems superwer in my business classes now and the size if you are going but I should really do it more than you do into fifty percent we save bring to the love longer lives.

Found that I got that mostly mostly what is the damage? You don't get them twenty to overload the system then starts shotting and sometimes it gets So this is the cast stay for up to five to ten, playing for months. So what do you if I have a four point five KP? What with if I load in better to five kep without overlook Now this is over. Let's say if five water cantiage, let's say in that type one,

I see take your CV take the stuff now like five pew words. Then for eventual you're not annound somebody command decide to own all the fleish on to what is easy as unless you're fivecy or decide because of another efficiency expance to

wrun one easy at the time. So when you lib in put on foes as first, put on about the lighting, put on the TV without you are using an internity which is so so you really know what is a sense overlo can show them so mostly sure that this is not used to desire like that, sure that system put it on trying to pose the system on so I know what I can get, Moms, I won't go on game losing where more room that can't take fire like the worst to go. Gotcha?

So just the last question, last question from this right, So if I had to get my package from you, send the package from energy. We're not competing, we're not trying to compare. Say if I were to get a package from you, you know, like I said, sol annals inverta control and all that. What would that set you back on? And how do you also finance? They do a lot of working with the banks for for counting my credit. How do you finance your guys? Do you guys

have to pay you? Go ahead and go ahead, okay, I with them. People show jerdey financing partner blessing for instance a client, so what you do pay thy looking we have the claimed the most of a this season will come up me. So we have to be thirty percent of France. After we've done the back check checking localisto socurse, I know that legibly for the season. So the give or your feedback, yes this was my is a legible now. It cost now is eighty percent and the interest will be

completed on the balance after the episode of it. That is lessening. This is only today and will reticentially thirty thousand. It's left with seventy thousand. Now the interests to be computed only seventy thousand. Most food on two thousand willet wish to give out because it's eighty ten percent of this, so we are left with twenty percent usually seventy thousand error now so we have for mostly for companies, it's also one year. The finance is also one year.

Also that's the individual it's for three more. But when we check for predic schools, obviously that when we play is strong. That's called that one. Depending on the size le system guessing, so one the system of different one the SY system that you so also the sizing of s also going to play. Okay, So but what would the cost if you could, like you want to be your own like appront cost for the system if you could okay, okay, the interest that will become is between it's only between five to

fifty cents after after you put your initial sense. So what was the total cost for your system the whole thing? And I don't know if I got that part you mentioned the total cost? Okay, P five in the work system it was for seven or five and also the war system. That are some that I did into analysis between won't give you system and the least, which is that the basic guy doesn't lighting. I'm fine, so those ones probably won't give you sist from one give you syslos and I want to go

to competing lose range. So the cha plays. This is the one global system goes for let me check my this that goes for thousand. It comes with let us too. The one't give you system focuses of one two work conners, then twenty hours with the one giving So that is us for this smaller package. K. That's how much problems? How much is that? Yes? That's for it. Yes, it's you see okay, God, that's what the look OKAYLST one okay, and the west one is one TV

what what what about the the five will be the five five? Okay, that's what the that's what I already get. I want to get that other spectrum of the market, I mean, energy has given you that does get the spectral pricing as it were. So promise, Thank you so much. I'm mister Peter. Let me have you back in real quick before I go back to my last my last guest, is there any other solution apart from solar? Like everyone I've talked to online and d M is mostly solar and

all that. What about wind? What about maybe bio fuels? What about maintained? Is the anything that we can do illegal for instance? Or this is apart from solar? Peter, I know if you heard my question. Did you have my question? Yeah? I think I got, I got. I was just saying, is that is there any other optional apart from solar? Of course, of course I hear you. I heard you tek you so I think today as we all awhere, there's several other renewable sources

of energy, right which you have carefully listed. However, the one that is commercially problem to be is solar and this is not just from Nigeria. This is for most imagine margins where we know that are skill solar words and indeed, so I can actually meet the energy demand of the world. And that's like data drilling and proven. So once we we would see with other renewable sources, that's over time, as innovation continues to improve, some of

these other solutions become more commercially viable. And I commercially viable, I mean that compared to the other prices the other energy sources, that the price would now be comparable, right, and by comparable in that like the unique costs of providing the same amount of energy would be in relative terms similar. What we find is that with most of these because again scale hasn't happened, that's a lot of players, you know, you know, building these components,

you know, in the mass market. So most of these prices tend to be more expensive. And what we find is that people who are currently using systems either use it for you know, aesthetic benefits or also just the sort of like proof of concepts. Most of the of these projects tend to be more proof of concepts to show that you know, they're exploring these new opportunities or new areas of power, but they are not as you know scale or

market operations today. Interesting now in terms of alternatives, I think one major ortality which is more utilized for mass housing projects like bigger states as well as commercial is CG. So that's thet So that's another opportunity that's several very large you know sps today and other parts of Nigeria use as well as industries right connected to the pipelines. Gotcha. So I'm gonna really come back to the manufacturing of the invitas and solars. I don't have another topic on that because

we talk about the commercials the cos. You want to say, now, if you're not the pricing happens, the promise is surprising. But I want to talk about the manufacturing that that side of the of the market now. So Peter, I'm gonna come back to you, But let me get mister Kaleb in here. I think he has the founder of a score. So let's talk now about the manufacturing because, like Peter said, these things are

priced in dollars. So if we're able to keep the dollar ate low to have no con drown over or if we're able to manufacture locally, this might be a should we say, loophole to keep this price lower. So calib and if you're online, I mean you're here if you can commute quick intro and that it can come to you, mister calib Yeah absolutely I can, sir, Please go ahead, sir, I can. Awesome. I'm sorry for the ballground. So yeah, so my name is actually generally for the

manufacturer, I mean businesses. So yeah, we just very very I don't really know how how in manufactric now, uh, the system is manufacturing virus specifically side so okay, So so so let let's go there. Just let's just stick to yours. Right, So let's just let's go So you said indigenous manufacture one hundred percent. So are you saying you make everything locally? Departures and made in Nigeria from you? Everything local? Yeah? I said? Okay, but then ours around all in Nigeria. Yes, where's your

where's your factory? Wait? Where do you guys manufactures? Understand we don't mean then we do manufacturing? Gotcha? Wait? Where is your factor? Asks? Interesting? Okay, So let's so let's just find up from you, right, do you know how much an important but will cost and how much yours will cost? What's the price difference between if I bring it in and if you make it here? Just to give you a context and information,

so different the different opportunities. Yeah, price, so that would say the same that so so it's a uh you can find c see around two kinds of six course you sail sing a three point so that's that's so is that you like okay, you important the compass and you amble in Nigeria and in Peter as well. So the course to calm down okay, well actually just course down farewell, this is the fact be as yet those complaints and

do those manufacturing and sam quality by ourselves. So yeah, so the driver of the cost what in terms of course and everyone a company at listeners and this is going to be happy mind to We've been working on listening to figure out the RESU bring this barrier now. Theselves are very expensive. But what was recently they have begot mine informational museum from nasal I as one of my famids and want to be a bunty plants. I would be doing this the

party sales engineer, I don't the first ever. Uh, but manufacturing plants being in this interesting and what's the name again? Just so I don't go to the finance this topic, but I only hit you guys on the finance particular way reading capital you're gonna do a public of because very interesting to me that you want to manufacture batteries. There's a huge demand for that. That tales means a lot of product that would need lots of funding. But I

don't to go finance yet. I want really talk to you guys about the about the funding. So I've had to speak let me get it Peter, It's Peter. My question for you guys, guys, what again, are you guys really back great shot for batteries because that seemed to be the she said the two points right, the batteries, yea great point. So I first I want to, you know, say, well, don't you guys are doing something incredibly import for our country. It's just trying the fact that

you guys are taking is actually comment you guys all written for you. Just speak to other players like killing very very much to speak to other local companies to do shout out. There's another covering called manufactures Panels looking and has started to also buy panels locally from there, just taking to sort of like support for local production. So obviously we need TORTI and also monitor his purpose. So gonna, how did they make that? Where is it? What?

I didn't the free Trade They have some good supporters. We have similar investors to them, so we obviously have you know, some level of relationship. So yes, they are located lakes in the Free Trade and they have quite massive skill plants is very massive, and they also worked on the right accreditation to sort of like ensure that in terms of standardization of their products, you know, it can compete at at global scale, which is why we hope

that our local manufacturing can get to. In terms of our business today, our strategic focus is you know, assembling the Solis linearing our own I device

on top of it. So we have our management system and a remote monetary functionality which is developed locally by us, and we assemble our systems and tickets and markets, so we are more you know, fully integrated to you know, provide the systems locally, also ensure that it gets to the end user, and also provide support to the end user in terms of backward integration. Maybe that's someday we can look at the future as our market gets more right

from manufacturing. I think that's over time, hope that Nigeria will get a lot of base rights that would support support local manufacturing and those areas that would be explored in the future. But today we're fully integrated. You know, we provide this OLM support today in Nigeria by assembling these components that are mostly source of show and to the extent that we can continuously increase the local content

in our system. That's something that we're really really striving for and we're working there always following the market systecy when is available locally so that we can swap out the dollar spent on the product so ensure that we can sort of like make it more available and as sourceable accessible to the customers. I don want benefit that you know obviously comes from also have local production is that the lead time to get in all the inventory we need in our factory is much shutter,

right, which means that we are more hampt efficient. So it's very very good for the market and we're hoping that more look out manufacturers able to you know, expand their operations to deliver the batteries and the right commity, in fact the right commities and also the panels. And we also hope that you know the market and the government doesn't pretend to support this company to try and be around the launch. Very interesting because I was when you were seeing

legals and I remember that I did. The paper was on solar and basically this the solar panels, the silker sand, and I know Catsina and Car Dinner had this large silker sand deposits. There's actually a solar manufacturing company in a Bujer. I'm not sure if it's off the government. I think the government set it up and then I was sourced to a private company to run. It's in a Bua and they were making super panels using the silker from Catsina and a Buda. I'm not sure where the company is. Do you

do you know anything about that? Do you have no Peter about that before? But we're happy to do. Yeah, I'm looking for that. I know I wrote about that I would get this name for your sending to you. Yeah, they were, Yeah, I'll care for you. I mean, let's just go back to what we're killer for, Killer for for Peter and also for the Peter, thanks for the shot of the guys making the

solar solar here. So if we are I hear you say the dollar So what I hear you say that if you guys can get the cells, the power sols locally cheaper that way important or were subsidizing the impost, then we could release scale up the use of solar panels, solar inverters in cities like Legos, even in the rural areas. I would then drop the demand for bret power. Is that what I'm saying dolls and funds the importational manufacturing of

those things locally local power drops. I think I think one important thing is to ensure that we we don't you know us too, you know, I think I think the way the way it is, we definitely want to see

this sector continue to grow. We have single rapid groups in recent times and we know that, you know, even with local manufacturing, it needs time, it needs time to develop, you know, just to ensure that we're having the right county and we're also getting to the right skill to make the demand there isn't like you that we would still need to always have access to you know, cheaper you know, sources of this component off shore. Just

to keep context in in America the manufacturer solar panels. In Canada the management manufacturers panels. But for some reason the panels that comes to this part of the world come from China. And the major reason is because because of the economics of scale that China is for printing up and to get the price in to a price point where it's easy for markets like hours to absolve this.

Right, even with myning panels from from America, of you know, the European markets, the price point for Nira times would be won't be talking about great party, right, I won't be saying that's comparable to great price. So one thing is setting that you know, without subsidies as well, it would it would take some time for Nigeria it gets to the scale way, the price c scope and before we thought of like start to ensure that you

know, local price points are the saver. As you know this suthing this from China, I think that was the most important is that we solve our power problem first, so that means we consist continuously have to keep our markets open so that these products are coming in from the market to where they had the competitive advantage of producing and selling off show maybe the suppers day already have from their government. I think that it's important that we first power our countryad

quickly try when the backward integration. This goes down to you know, the the the the the lower imputs, the smaller imputs that make up these solutions. I think the point you made around you know, the material has been sussed. Castina is a good example ways that actually the cereal is also available

locally, so we can overtime build competitive advantage us. Another good example of having lithium available in Nigeria in the natural states as saying that if we build batteries because we have the medium available, we have the deposit availble in our country of the time, we can build competitive advantage in those areas. So that's something that comes with skill comes you know, with a lot of you

know, improvements in technology, know how, technology know how. But I think that this means that you know, aspert in these spaces with's hopefully more foreign investments, we know how it can be transferred to the Nigeria and maybe in the next decade or would see a lot of these solutions be able to you know, compete price wise. Now I'm saying a lot of that's to

say that we have a opportunities to solve seting products. Sure where the competitive advantage today, and then we can continue to leverage that to ensure that Nigeria. I guess the point where you know twenty four our power. Yes, it's a given. It's advisible to anyone that you know wants to you know, access to such solutions. I found I found a bitter and call. So this was the company. It was set up by NASINI. The any

and I does. The national was the National Agency for Science Engineering Infrastructure. So this company is seven point five megawatts solar planel production plant. This capacity twenty one mega wat. I know if that's what it means, the capacity megawatts. It was set up ten years ago, back in twenty thirteen. Too many in in Karashi is in Karashi, Abuja and they basically we're making panels solar. I think they nere handle it over. We're probatly guy,

I'm really not sure. I can't get more information, but this is the company. What about it's a semi own plans thirteen, it's in a I will get more info. Trying to keep get guys to speak calib don't you want to ask the question just as we're rounding out that right, what is your biggest cost in your factory in color in portar court and what would you think? What support do you think it's gonna make came to you like says what can we do for you to crush your presence process? What would you

answer? What's your biggest cost think you're gonna do for you today to crush good? Thank you very much for the really amazing question. It might be a very easy answer. What I would like I'd like to take a different round so that my biggest question is UK equipments like atomitted equipments for instance,

to many functioning battery those your power bank factory cells. So if the fact contained like about eight thousands, so just to give me a context of what if one of our products is by the way, it's an only one device as the invert your battery, your charge control in one solar funnel and then it gives you energy to have a allows you uptimaility over one from your energy and all due to this in house for powerselves. So that's your question.

Each of the part about one thousands of those batteries selves. Right now, you need a machine that comprens human beings, we definitely have at some points. So now so I could isn't tell me that the machines that the person are very very expensive like one of those missions like you won't have also read album one of those missions and that's just one. You absolutely others equipments as

well. But I will tell you the expensive part for me, which is the value around now is one of the it gets values is the ability to think our mindsets. Now all of the massines do that need is for we use them by ourselves in house. I mean it's almost a shock, and this is because we had Now this is something that we have very you very

well. We need to certain limits, two certain engineering boundaries. I don't believe that we can completely just like in Africa like you feel like, which is we are car so a more advanced that my years of experiencing and calib calm I've taken up. I took a great question for you, but it's a great question like what do you need and what is your biggest cost? Even though he's listening, so I would say, hey, my biggest cost is this, and this is what I need, I would sit at real

quick. You don't know who he's listening. I what is in this valid want you to answer that question real quick, just to put it out there. Yeah. So so for the what's the reality my biggest okay, what's your biggest cost? Like wait, you look at when you look at your your income statement and your expension, what's your biggest expense in your factory gets? Also is almost the same as is that like the importanduty or the transportation?

What is the specific cost what they're getting? What does that cost? Is the cost of important or the cost of moving the clerics? What was the cost? Okay? What of important? Uh? Okay? Because so if some question for you, right if the for instance, the sovereign weld formed, for instance, came to you, I said, we're going to

invest in your factory to expand it. But in the meantime, do we're going to place in massive order for components batteries and we're going to cause them to not charge your duty it would come into Nigeria and no duty because we're going to generate power locally. We do then sort of get people like promise promise is but I'm not asking promise if you were getting batteries at half the

price, would you go to this your own price by fifty percent? If if if you're Caleb and please I gave you a battery at a lower price, do that translates to you taking your puys down by fifty percent? Yes?

So wa wain okay excellent? So what guide us from you? So what we're saying now is that if there's a way at the government, because we don't manufacturers at scale in Nigeria, if there's the way we can bring in solar panels and where we can bring it batchy packs and tell the customs not to charge import duty so he comes in into Nigeria, because we're going to use that impute to make wealth in Nigeria. So there's no point customs charging duty. If you can't pay the freight it comes in, you can

take it to your factory. Like that, he can make more locally manufactured batchers and selves. That would be a force multiplier, as they say, for the natural economy of the right. Yeah okay, So I mean so you want to Yeah, great, I just want to get that point across pit I want is this something I just wanted to ask to that point that the government it did has programs like that already. Okay, so there's something

called by friends in the space also know that. So when you're set components like batteries, you can't get your waiver, you know, to ensure that you don't have to pay duties. I just got to share that, so that of the ages as as well, to be clear. So you said that if I a in part, if I'm importing those components, duties and adant customs exactly, so you're able to apply. So whilst you're you know, confirmed your shipments, you can also immediately apply to the government to constums

for an idea and that idea gives you weaver opmigunity for your shipments. So this could combine matters and batteries. So just to say that, you know the you know the agency agencies doing to support you know, the growth of the industry and they setting with asdiately. So as we do want research, we can also ensure that we're getting the best prices so that we can transfer

those we can. Peter answer the question, so it does exist. Why why are people like why lower if we can bring in these things without paying custom why everyone doing that? So I think the information is very important. This is why we're using this platform and this is why we're very wayful to you for you know, creative performs like the industry players together. So information

is important. Also, some of these are new developments, so sometimes it takes a while, you know, for all of this to sort of like become mainstream. And it's a lot of these place. Also the times is so that we perfect them and do it that scary. So I think those are those are those things supports largely. I think that the you know, the country has not just inmo the new rate of the dollars, the dollar wasn't wh it was today, so ab some of these benefits started to come

in were hit by significant jump in the price of these equipment. A lot of the people in the space know that, you know, and it's because less than that the price it is today. So the systems were telling you about Ninelio today, some of them were read on, you know, in

genera of last year. It's just to give the context that obviously, as if the evaluation impact hits the market, some of the value that's brought from tariff redocution or weather or weavers where you know, it wasn't a You know, we're able to see the immediate impact of those simons, right, so I think that over time as we are just I would see the benefits that are also, you know, the goverment has done to sort of like the industry. Okay, so I'm going to just sort of close out the space

if you guys don't mind with this question to you. And I mean again, I'm a caliber as like when you're aware of this importanuty with a thing for batteries, where you're aware of it that exists, let me try to use it. I beg, I beg, I beg. Share that with me. Please let me just broadcast so in case all the folks that want to do this, they can be aware of this space. So just d

M me or shirt me and make sure broadcast. And again just yes, sir, and I'll just to make the point again, this is a space where trying to find solutions on this space of not I not criping or saying because no, I want to find solutions. Power going up. And what I read in the papers is that in the next three years, the band A price is going to be applied to band B, band C and all that so this band A is coming to you, so you don't say, oh, Peter has said that, and A is great, neutral and all

that it's coming to you. So if the dollar stays where it iss or dollar goes up, the path is gonna go up. So you are basically educating yourself now on how you can avoid that staying down the face. Even if great power is available. This can be for your rural home or your village home, or even for your business. You can move some equipment onto the inverta that you can have as emergency power whilst your prey. So this is not something that you say it doesn't concern me. It will concern you

one way or the other. Right, So we're doing this space to get the information out there. I have learned a lot of Trytor, really, I want to just learn, and I've been a lot from Peter Promins and I kind of coming here, but I'm just sort of now go to the finance side of it. Right, Peter, I saw you, I saw you guys picture with bullets. He came to visit your factory. I'm gonna talk about scaling, right, are you guys? I want to start from Peter, I are you looking at for you investors, how are you guys

funded the money part of it? I you guys don't do an IP if you can, you don't have to say that. But what is the plan for you guys going forward to list that's a space for you then go ahead. Thank you, thanks, thanks for mentioning that. So today energy is supported and you know has been invested in the search arch. Some of the investors of manage to be include notable DFIs such as you know, the Norwegian

Development Finance Institution, which is no fund. Also, we have the DFI as one of our investors, which is the European the df I, like you mentioned, break Through Energy Ventures, which is led by the Gates you know, is also one of the investors of energy today. And we also have all One, which is a harm of Shell you know that focuses on

energy access. You know, it's also an investor in energy. Again, we believe that there is a lot of you know, capital flows in the climate space today, right, So I think from the private capital standpoint with the business as you know, has been heavily funded you know, and has been venture back over the last five years, right, which has assisted the

business in growth. Right, So again, we continue to leverage the capital availability, the development space and in them that investment space to continue to grow the efficacy of our solution to the markets. And if in the future it's as we also bring this opportunity so they properly to take you know, ownership in the business and also to raise more capital. I think that's in the future. That's the day that we could explore. But that those are conversations

that would happen watch later. I think what you're likely to see more, you know, in the net medium to net end is maybe accessing the the capital markets. You know, so true commercial paper issuances, you know, board issuance is where you know iNTS can get also participates supporting the guts of the convince and energy and the space as a whole. So we're looking a little more of debt not equity, I get that right. Yes, so

the business is well for in equity today. You know, we have a solid capital pies and we continue to have response that believe in the business and want to continue to back. Oh yes, well we would most likely be the market. Okay, but I'm not I'm not putting on the spot, Peter, I'm not putting on the spot. But I'm just saying that even if you guys didn't listening on the market, not to responds, just like maybe in listening by production, that's also going to boost the Natuck plus market.

Of course, put your guys out there so it can just be listening another naturally ENGINEX has a it's called the group board, just to be there, and I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying that it's something that's want to look at. So we also expanded deep in the junk Apore market. But great work. Very impressed that you guys are doing so fast. Thank you so much, and thank you again for the opportunity. All right, welcome mister Caleb also as well. I know you are more you are

still you are really really at the start up or consutional stage. What's your plan? How are you forming? Are you going to raise fund from the custo market? Are you being dead? What do you have in mindself? Okay, you very much. So we have so at this point to skill we have like uh as for meated uh, majorly from real estate, and we're also looking to yes, we are very much uh what yesterday? Okay, So I mean this is a different, different but you've got to go.

So you've got to go now. I have to speak an investment banker. I start to package documentation. You know, if you want to skill, you have to have the right paper and say this is what we are doing. These are our numbers. We want to get funding to do X, Y and z. I think you have a good product and the environment now suits you. Even if it's not commercial funding. I think DFIs will also be very interested in you. Ministered going to be interested in you.

I'm surprised no one has has invested in you. But no many people a d M order my system. So you should organize yourself intell, right, so if you come and knock on your door, you can say this is what I'm looking for. This are my non is My doesn't just advice right that way? You know people want to impest in opportunities, right, so

make yourself an opportunity, right kill all right? Okay, yeah, okay, ready, okay, I can help you with that if you DM after this, If you have something you can send him, I have a few I can on it by as well. Promise not not not to leave you hanging. Promise I know you are not quote unquote manufactor anything. But what what is your own sense You are funding your your your customers, bere the but in your own self, how are you also going to scale? You

are doing as training? What is your own idea of scaling or would that be if you scale? Looks look at for you going to be a star front retail outlets out there better? Yeah, my skill is going to be in form of pretty by offering the services because I noted that we have so many solar install of them don't know about out installer, Like you're not going

through the business. It was dropping from the city into installation. So I'm kind of looking for like a partners by say all these beings for the company get installation install like certifying Stoller to go and do the ass for them coming there see for instance installation and like this over that thing because looking from the rest is that Okay, Okay, I'm probably promise question for you. Are you are you trained? Are you certified? How did you how did you

become satisfied? Okay, so you have to I'm giving advice. You have to create your Twitter paid around your business. Right, I don't see promise energy look at look at you see you see the handle. There's energy, so you want to do the same thing they've done. You want also put your on your picture, your your fight, put it out there. You've paid for it, so put it out there. So you sort of credentialize yourself because people want to do it with some as it's a corporate if you

have like I said, it's just a guarantee yourself. You just saying they give warranty and you can say the price difference with the warranty. So you want to imitation the more flattery. You're never gonna ahead of you copy of that young private yourself. You're here with them, you know, and you can grow now you have a footprint. So I see you people already asking you question on Twitter, take advantage package yourself and then the world is all

you say, your oyster. Yeah all right, so good job. So we're gonna close. I know if anyone has any clothing to comment thoughts before I shown on the space. I w've got a few guys here. A lot of it is not anomal space, guys, but it's a space for information. We are always looking at how money will have your money if you

can mind your money. And this is the biggest story if you want to ask me this week or even this year, because what it means is that if you are paying more for power, you have less money to invest any budget that you had. And this is maybe the saying is great, but like I said, this Grade A will cut across the board because if I'm a bakery and I'm paying Grade A, I will pass the cost onto you

down go the refinery will be out right. And if don't go to refinery, is that means diesel will come to the Julia That would more or less help the costing of diesel power. Yes, so I don't know what the negative effect will be. If it did that diesel will will kick off the expensive great here, I'm not sure, but this is going to be a major change in your budget, in your spending, even in your world. Right, So what you want to do is to find out how you can

sort of, you know, head against this. That's what to do on this space. So let me just take a few questions. I think I've got to guys I want to speak, let me get tell me, let me see tell me the world, who is our sponsor? Tell me the guys from UH and shell me. Please go ahead and use yourself. I know you you sponsored this space today. Thank you again for doing that. Yeah and only we have but thank you, so please also talk about I

can hear you thank you for using market intelligence for your markets takes. We are so watful for that. I'm really exactly about this space because most of the guys book about something that will really step before and that's what I want for. What this book about is the iduty tools that always have to monitor what you use. So let me tell you what I think most like, just need to learn how to manage what we have. So if you have in five KP and you wanted to last for four hours, you should put

the exactly load to put on it for that period. And that's why the idols that most of the comperections have a very important so you're able to monitor what to need, what conswer or give an example where I was living in the part in Nigeria or using that I was to wait that way able to use a chad for it for next six hours. I used for hours basically because power does the things that we need where we needed because you know what the consution is. Now like the other guyport his name when you put too

much load on your products. He brownces and people who just you know the one you have five sis, you have six secs. You have this. You do need to use all of them at the same time, which one is privately and when one is in the sitting room, which is working. Now if you're not your room, you don't need to have your life on so that it spends the the lifespan right from the analytics, because you can see it from anywhere. You can call your duran say, look, you

guys, switch these places because it's just service. If you blow it out, because remember you have to charge and you blow it, you have to lean out to you because the more you put on it, the more you would train it out. It's like it's like marchanalytics where you have to learn to look at it every time optimize optimize optimists. You get more long term because if you if you use it too much like you've got it because it's

brand new, it tell he has to become five years. Unfortunately. That's just this was my total the developments that they are doing, the iotes and the connections that they're doing on their side, which is for me manufacturing, what can manufacturer and when it comes to developing so you can help money and save money. This way, I am cure what they're all doing. Well, these are entrepreneurs take going into the ditches to manufactured power products, all

of them from the peas or color probably all in that space. It's not a difficult place to be in. But they're doing it, you know. So we have we given that. Thank you so much that Tommy, I appreciate you doing that and also produced posting the space. Also, can you talk about your own mathemaetics? What's happening this week? Just in case are we going to make money this week? Well, you have a marketizing I

need people make money and lose money every day. It depends on what you say to the market and why the people you don't as will say you reports right, but the ares that you need Actually when I say actually, for example, people will talk about in marketing, so in stock market or doesn't

speak to the givide of brands. It's just an overview right things around as if we give's around the top five top ten, right, it's good information, right because how would you know with brands to investing, how would you know which one is growing up? We want to but you will say there's stump and dump in stop market. If we have are used moning sights, right, if we have been a date on your dash for for example, you have with to date, you have month to dates. We have data

analytics. What that HAPs to do is if you see today to know who is grewing? Do you understand on Monday Tuesday was this brand is growing up? I'm plugging at the right time. If you have more to date, you know your product because it's the last one month, right, and if you here today you see a products because it's for the longer your So don't happen because what happened with you with what we get quected from maybe procas that the police they take top five right, top ten are the lowest five at

all. And now what happens is I Mandy particular brand has plowed ten two days, right, you have close ten two days, you have percent today, you have ten, the next twenty percent in one week. But as to start dropping that going by two two percent for the next thirty days, because you are two percent, you're in between the lawyer and I are you not appearing any of the reports of the broadcast? Now what that does for you is you would have thought you were doing twenty percent by one month of

two percent lost without forty percent? Looks do you understand? So it makes sense for businesses to understand where to stand by using proper analytics reports to do what they're doing. And it's good that we'll be formilier and I need to do to put it out there. There's lots of visions about you are injured and just gives you information. Is the place where you're the I would like

it. They give you as more information as possible, but it's between information and inside and has any when you say sales, I say profit to trees, it's just the vanity, but probably tells you exactly what the business is doing and how you can go. So they are tofer. So we provide trying to put data because of all this probably has said any guys that this to it, kind to it and we take it back from the market to

build the insights right and I'm very happy with that play. The Sibian as said, places back we go to raise money, there's no banker and raise money back data and I can't tell you for free who banker is. Money we have doing and a machine learning and I'll tell you why that is so the business day. Every investor wants to know the fluctility of your currency before

if I invest in your business. They want to know. So if I put money here, like what happens toward recently, over the last year as well last sixty years, well last twenty five years, what is the percentage change in currency in four years? Sego, so that I know if I have another eighties the currency will change by two percent, will lose by two percent or by five percent? Yes, next eight yes, these people's crazy, right, will lose percent maximum now we have recently is just outliers.

They are not our siety. You need to know seasonality, you need to know patterns, you need to do traits, and every issue needs to have that standing because if you're an issue and you don't have those, those insights in resource will find out and we will tell you based on this information, I can't invest that because before ratility you're in your country? Is this?

You tell them our siety is this. We have our fliers at this point, this point, but this is worth our maimm change loss for over the next five years, and I'll tell you thereabout we won't lose what a ten percent except different preables that we have with system changes by CFOs that look you need to do. Make sure that your brand uses analytics to keep your share price up because the kind of fair price will have its all determine type of

investors you have. But I'll tell you why. If you if your share price keeps going up and comes our looks, you attracted short sellers. And what that means. What that means is that short what that misses for short selling if your enterprise goes up to twenty, they buy at sixteen when it gets twenty it self because they know it will come back to twelve, and you buy again at the lower price. Gotcha, gotcha. You should always attract shows based on the way of your your profile, your stocking or if

able to keep it properly. You can't show your business because if the business keeps going up and open up where you buy a fifteen, when are you going to sell? Because he's at twenty, he goes twenty two, you can never go to you to say it because if you sell it, that's eighteen the next time you want. But we are twenty two seven. So trying to sustainable way of managing that one investments with you for a long time and like you can. It's like you said to me, top market is

where wealth is built. Stay all of them, don't. You don't speak like nineteen In ten years, stop market did two percent two yes, and I just say ten years two two percent is nineteen point. But you know you had undred initial understand so that gives it one on nineteen percent combinder to tool. So if you're to build long term wealth to the stop market, but you need to know that the insights that getting to plant is more important than than just gotcha, I got you. Yeah, good point, good

point. Yeah, I don't. I don't crowd out Peter and the rest of the so guys, so let me just Peter promised, Uh, let me take the last I think he's been here for what. I let you guys go for the day. I appreciate you guys real quick. I am Sagio Classic brand real quick at the last game, because you don't been waiting. Sergio don quick comments before we shot down the space Sergio Classic. Alright, Sagio, thanks for requesting Peter promise and Caleb. I appreciate you guys

for coming. Short notice, favorite short notice for coming and for sharing with the community what we can do. The key point for me that I picked up is that this this pros you guys have is great. Neutral and new word for me mean that if I use them correctly, it's almost at the same cost as the grade. So I make an initial payment, but initialment pays me back and I'm able to control how I can use my power. So that's savings for me. If I'm not at home as produce off.

Maybe if we start feeding times literally next year, I could make on it from it. For now, I can control that cost as long as the initial capital outly, it's a huge capital outlet, but you're gonna have said that. Listen, we can get the capital, or we can get a loan from banks, and cannot to share those banks without sending we promise, so it's not all cash deal. I can finance that that offer and also

be impressed that they're making these things locally. People who share that. We can also even import these things at zero maybe lower tariff, so that with the cost can come down. Our whole goal is to bring down the cost so that the household can have more money to consume. The issue that is the lack of consume shut up where the companies are not investing on hiring people because nobody's consuming this. Tiifts PMS dollars all up to removing funds from the

household that it cannot consume. So again, thanks guys for it, for coming here. That's that we're gonna shot shut the space down guys next week. Last say your last Peter promise and calib and we'll be here on an hour minutes Peter and the last words I think, let's promise Peter, you can have to get picture my promise and the last words from you before we go. Yeah, I just don't. I want to appreciate it once again

for bringing onto this. I won't read Niger manager energy meaning is arning on some more degrees than an efficiency, but by this seems to be sugar money and energy efficiency. The system last longer. What down this specified time is

there? Thank you? Thank you so much for that caliber. Any quick closing words from you before I come out to Yeah, so thank you very much for this one opportunity and also thank you for PROMI for boy you said, and just to add to that, won't be viewed that this for our mover actually helps you to manage the energy conveniently without stressing your head or brains.

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in ink, what's like goal? This system immediately gives you new time that you have inceded man and if you calm down immediately to sort up with However, it is completely a enable and addition freedom that we need to run into energy. Excellent. Thanks for Kailer, appreciate you find out for us. Peter, how are you, sir? Thanks for having Thank you so I would just say that thank you again for giving us this opportunity to stay here

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