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2025 Personal Finance Checklist

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Speaker 1

Hey, good evening everyone, and welcome to another Money Space with me calu Ajab for those who know, we're here every seven thirty west pm West talking time. Of course, we're talking money, the economy and personal finance. The aim of the show on X what you call the Money Space show, is to learn together about money. We want to be better in business, right, we want to understand how many works for us. And the only way we can just understand the interaction with money, the economy, politics,

you know, what does it all mean? That's the idea. So when we come to the space, we're all learning together. We have lots of great guests that had come and they come and talk to us about topics. And then of course we can learn the shows that are recorded and you go back and you play it and you and that's the whole idea. Everyone. Really, it's a great space to be on Sunday because it prepares you for

the next week. You learn something you might have known about and you can take for the next for the next week. All right, guys, I just want to review for this is going to be our last space right in twenty twenty four, and it's been a fantastic year for us, right, we all made it. That's the first thing we all made it. Were at the end of December a few with the new year. The new year is a financial event, which means the new year you get to reset your entire finances, you get to get

news during your income. But even it's the same thing. You know you're going to start from January first, and whatever plans you have psychologically you are starting from January. It sort of gives you, you know, a boost, a new year resolution. You can start whatever I want to do January first, on tap a budget on the track from January, and it does not allow you to know

to power through an entire year. So last night or yesterday, I was looking at my podcast because what we do when we when we have the spaces on Twitter, we saved them on the podcast. Oh it's there forever and I know the podcast is the way I see it. I think I've shared the links also my oh my, on my timeline, you can do that link there. We've done west about in November twenty twenty recording the podcast. Before then, weren't on the podcast. From November to sixteenth,

twenty twenty, we've set to record the podcast. I counted about two hundred and forty five episodes that were recorded, sixty in twenty four alone. That's a lot. That's more than normal four a week because we're here every Sunday. But we've done more than that, So that's fantastic. And we've only done that because you can stop tuned in here. We can week out to listen. And I do appreciate it. Was I was looking at the top podcast. We've done, the very very top episode. We've done the number one

episode does better? How to buy a house in teny six months as an imigrant? That was space we did in January or two grade too. I think we did it again, and especially I laid out how as an immigrant to travel to the West maybe in the UK, the US, Canada, the same principles work. How you can get the house in the six months. It's possible. It's

twenty four expected, but it's definitely possib to six. It's not like motivational speech to give you the step by step how if you leave Nigeria today and you go to the West, Canada, the US. Okay, it's possible to buy a house in the six months. And why is it important? Because buying a house is a popular to middle class in America and you in the West. When you own a home, you own equity and that puts you into that with the economy that is structured. When

you own a home, you have equity. You can then pass on generational wealth. The difference between the demographics in America if you look at the white Hispanics and the blasts home ownership US. Homeownership allows you to write a check on the appreciation of your home, that loves to send your kids to university. That gives you a low interest on business. I'll give you an emergency fund. Most blacks do not have a home, so they do not have that place they can run to get a low

interest credit if they need credit. That's that's the main difference. There are all the things, they are all the things, but the inner ability to get a mortgage. That's why you had on the jim. You had the red line because the guys that were quote to racist understood that if you keep people a home, you're putting them on the path of self sofiictancy. So not having a home, not having been on that pathway, it's a big big when you can you get rich of at home yes,

but the pathway is you're coming. You get a mortgage, or you g educated, you get a job, you get a mortgage, you're on the pathway. The equity is yours. That everything is there is you know, So getting a it is very very important for you as as an immigrant because you have to stay somewhere. Right, is that you pay rent or you pay a mortgage rather pay a mortgage on the home. You're still going to pay anyways, right, and the mortgage is going to be cheaper for you

down at home. And that was the biggest episode. And of course I have a way to invest a billion. We had the Apple tell us how to invest, not really how to invest in? How to do aster location? If you have money, how can you invest? Where do you put it into? If you're this, if you're in Nigeria, if they give us Nigeria, give us the UK. And of course the guys from Clever was an app that allows you in niger to put a bank account abroad, right, so they we're also here. It was very nice people

listening to them. And you can see the theme of this train of this tree highest grossing top downloads, how to buy a house, how to invest, how to on the bank. People want to do things. We want simple financial topics that they can listen to and I can understand and they can implement. So we're glad to be there right over the last model don't three episodes the first episode of Financial Health check who walked about your income,

your expenses, and of course your budgets. Then the next week we then did assets and liabilities and assets application. We said, okay, we now know you want to do a budget, but if you have a budget, where do you invest? Right? That's what we then talked about where you can invest, how to build an ASSAT application if

you're younger, and all that. So this week we sort of want to like close it out with a checklist for you for two and twenty four and again, guys, it's the last podcast of the year, so feel free to request to speak or leave a comment if you have a question as an outset of topic, will be glad to take them, So don't restrict yourself to just what's on the topic. If you want to speak, request to speak. I'll ask you on you and ask your question.

It doesn't have to be what we're talking about all I just want to get across before I handle over the mighty folks. Is just this concept of having a checklist. There are many non financial things that killed you in twenty twenty four that you want to get done for twenty five. And I've shared if you got to my tut page, I've just shared a checklist from my book Let's talk about your Money. So page two fifty four

the appendix, talk about your checklist. And if you don't have that checklist, it's right down on the Twitter page. Just go there and it's listed from number one all the way to number seventeen. And this is a thing that you want to do at least take them off on your checklist that you don't have what doing to be Four. If you'ven't done, then it's very very important to get themsel five. Number one track all you track all your expenses, write it down. I prefer this for

tray month. This is what we talked about two weeks ago, right tracking your expenses so that you can then create that budget. So the abilities you track your expenses, you categorize, you're look dollars dollar or narrative your expanizations. That's a budget. That number one, so we say track your expenses. Number two track your income, especially passive income. And of course you number we set passive income. Because we set passive income,

it's what makes you retire. You are only rich when you have passive income, not when you have active income. What I means is this, if you're a footballer and you get to pay them million dollars a week, you are not rich unless you convert that one million dollars salary into passive income. When if you take that salary you buy a house, a housepace your rent. Your rent is your real income, not the salary they're paying you. Same we keep in the bank your active income, that

income you make from going to the bank. It's not your wealth. It's when you convert that active income, so passive income, it means income you make me not there as well. Number two track you all your income, especially passive income. No, the tree creates a shuttle of your assets and liabilities to cap with your networks. So income is different from network. Like I said income. Then you buy an asset, the asset goes to your by a sheet.

It's the difference between your assets and liabilities that is your networks. So if you earn money, you're not rich. It's only when you convert that money to an asset that stream of income, your salary whatever it is, to an asset that pays you income. That's when your network can go up. Right, which are also before track your

discretionary and your non discretion expenses. The trick is this, you want your passive income as you are working to cover your non discretionary expenses because that's when you can retire. Retire is an event, it's not an aid. Retirement means when your passive income can cover your non discretionary income we're having there. Number six, create a fund to cover your three to six months of your non discretionary expensive dision emergency fund, so before you invest, before you start

to invest, create your emergency fund first. Why you don't want to invest and how to sell your assets to pay an expect your gross knock when you gets sick, So you do majisty fund first. Then of course you do your budget right. You will be your balance sheet by this number eight. If you're balance sheet, you want to identify high interest debt and have target to pay them off. So when you attract your income, you track

your experiences, you do your balance sheet. You want to look at your balante and say, what are the high interest debt there? I want to pay them off into twenty five that because the targets are going to extract from your balance sheet. Right. Number have talked about investing. We've said number one and Majesty fund. Number two. You want to pay off your high interest that we haven't talked about the investments. Number three, you want to buy

life insurance. If you have dependents, you're going to do all this before you invest Number one, Right, you want to have the Milissy fund. Number two. You're not paying high interest debts, high interest deb not all debt high interested. That is very expensive, very short off. Right. Number three, you want to buy life insurance, which means if you are if you have a family, guy, you have a family, you have dependence, you want to buy insurance. There is

nothing like life insurance. You can ensure your life. What you are ensuring is the loss of revenue should you not long be there. So if you're not only are there. Who pays for the school fees, who pays for the mortgage, who pays for the day to day living. That's what you are buying. So if you end a million, you can say, I want to buy five times my annual income.

I want to buy Lifa durants for five years with me that whatever happens to you, your family is away for five years, So you buy life insurance if you have dependent. If you don't have dependence, you don't need it, so you don't life insurance. If you don't have dependence. Right number four, what else you do? You have to sign up for your employee pension plan, so if you have an arrest in Nigeria, make sure you are contributing. You don't see the economics bad. No, you want to

keep on compounding in your retirement service account. If you're in the US. Very important. You want to make sure that when you what do your penis your team so that when you go for a company, they will tell you if you pay your dollar or will match you. You want to find out from your HR what that match is and you want to make sure you are contributing the minimum to that match. So whatever if your company is matching five percent, you want to make sure

you are country in at least five percent. You don't have to do six, but make sure you are doing the match because it's more at the table. The company is saying if you put a dollar. We're going to give you fifty cents. Make sure you do that dollar to get the current mooding match. We haven't talked about investing number one. You might just see fund number two, pulp your debt number three by life insurance number four.

We are saying to do your retirement plans. They want to check this guys on on Twitter bait, do your retirement plan. After you have done all all this, that's the only time you can then go in and say you want to invest where saying open up an investment account. If you don't know what to do, try and do an index fund. You know, index one means you're buying top down, you're buying the whole exchange. Right, you buy that, you understand the market, then you take it from there. Right,

you buy an index phone. Then you can then go to a sector phone. They can then go to the individual phone. Right, because you don't know what you're doing, right, and you don't want to just buy someone that you think it's going to go up and I force if you want to diversify your risks across the board right top down, So you're going to say on to buy Nigeria or on the buy us and then from the US you're going on to buy text sector or by

the banking sector. Then you walk your way down right, and then we say no bout thirteen your automatic cost black cost average. We miss from being consistent. Investing's about being consistent. You don't investigate and stop even if it's ten error. Be consistent right, And it's only when you have done all this you're cann talk about having a mortgage right or no, a charity or you know, or

getting a credit card to build your credits. So it's all detailed out there in the appendix street so you have taken so long as now the floyd is always open. If you guys request to speak ACTID they've dropped off, so requests to speak now if you want. But it's just one to talk to you guys about. Don't forget to sort out your estate account right? Your estate part of your financial plan? Do you have it next of king? Is it listed in your organization? Do you have it there?

Do you have a bank account? Do you have a beneficiary on that bank account? Very very important. All those nothings that you might take for granted or not put a lot of emphasis on, is actually where you want to put some you know some do some housekeeping on. There's no point not having lots of money. I'm not

having a shadow of where your assets are. You want to have this ship where all your assets are, so you can know where they are and then you can off like manage them and if you want, also distribute them. So very important, guys, the point of making so let me just go straight to DM. Sorry about that, So we have first real question is here? Please go over the investment in the pain of my debt. I do this, yes,

so please start asking. This is from Obaka. He's asking if you should Why should you pay off your debt before you invest? Well, because look at it this way. If you are paying a debt or fifteen percent and you invest on you make fifteen percent, it's not the same thing. When you pay off that debt, you're making one hundred percent return. If you are owing so on and you paid the percent off, God you made one hundred percent. Y why because you now have all that

money available to invest somewhere else. So if you are paying, if you are investing in the property sometimes giving you ten percent, and you are owning, so one ten percent doesn't make any sense. The best investment can take to take that ten percent and pay of the debt so you don't have any debt. It helps your networth, It makes you reach because you're using your debt forever and you're leasing cash note back to you. So you want to do that because that gives you a higher return

than actually going to invest money. That makes sense, I work. You want to invest first of all in what gives you a higher of return, and pain down your debt gives you a higher rate of return. Yes. Also, let us questioning here about emergency fund. Your emergency phone is three to six months of your non discretionary expenses, which means when you list out your expenses, you want to ask yourself which expense is the most important expense? Which expense do I need to do? Like I have to eat,

I have to buy gas? You list those expenses out. When you list them out, you want to save at least three to six months of those expenses, not all your expenses of the emergency fund expenses. Right, and it's whatever are you list as amgencive pon an emergency fund?

Speaker 2

Now?

Speaker 1

What will happen is this if you you don't have to have to hold three months immediately, because you want to have at least a phone where it can start to contribute to do all that three months. And what you also want to do is you want to keep that phone in cash or near cash asset. So you don't want to keep your megency phone in stocks or property. It has to be in cash or on cash. Yes, Unfortunately, you have to ignore inflation. Don't keep it in cash,

because that's why it's an emergency. It doesn't have to be in the bank, but it's got to be in cash or near cash. That's the point. It's got to be cash or near cash. So great question there on emergency phone at, the podcast available, Yes, if you go to the DM, if you go to the what's called if you go to the tl my what's it called? On Twitter? You said the podcasts, it's called Let's Talk about Your Money. It's right there. So you can get all the episodes on spreak at. The podcast is recauded

on spreaker. You can find a podcast on Apple, Google, on anywhere literally you have podcasts. You can find our podcast. Lots of great topics there. So yes, it's on my DM, it's on Twitter. It's also on Spotify, Apple podcasts and all that. So anyway you have podcasts, yes, you can find the podcast now. Having a lot of guys requested to speak one of what are you guys? Okay? Perfect? Okay, yeah, I hear you. Yeah, So you can record to speak, guys. I'm just going through dms and most of them are

repeating themselves. But I prefer to do the live. So if you want to speak, just hit me up on that guy. Let me read this one. Last week we talked abut let me see it. Last week we talked about investing in shares. Also, okay, so last week we talked about investing in shares and you and you were talking about ETFs, so okay, okay here, so last week we talked about ETFs. That's exchange traded for So exchange

phones are not different from the index. Exchange funds can invest in the index, so for restarts, if you do not invest in Nigeria or the US, you can buy an e t F that invests in the index of those shares. That's what I mean by that. Sydney, how are you doing your first guest today, Sydney? Casey, what's in my Sydney?

Speaker 2

Hit?

Speaker 1

Hello? Everyone? Happy Sunday.

Speaker 3

Okay, So I've been trying to take.

Speaker 4

My personal invests like investments most series I we need to ask on like additional mode. So that's one thing I'm trying to play out at least by by the middle of changes five, I'm planning to that's also out. So I had a a A question is based on after sorting out your interest news, really start investing and then just say you have a little bit of knowledge on the global financial markets. You have your full time globe.

And I've heard from like different financial experts that you cannot like invest you you cannot like three differentancial markets as as good as you do. What is your take on like some food like professional and another professional be treating.

Speaker 1

Like on the side, Like what what's you take on that? Yeah, so look at it this way. Let me give you a start that will surprise you. Right if you pull up every year they pull up a start and not more than almost eighty percent of firms do not beat the market. What that means is that if you look at all those guys trade on the stock market, stockbroker that are taking your money on trade, almost eighty percent

of them do not do better than the index. So if you simply buy the index, index means that there's there's an index that tracks all the funds in that exchange. For instance, you see S and P five hundred that's tracks five hundred stocks in the US market. You see NNGX that's n and All Share Index Nigeria that is all the shares in Nigeria. That index has the return

in Nigeria, the index is like tenty six percent. So what they're saying that if you give you money to a stockbroker, it might not even be that six percent. So what's the point. If you're not going to be trading actually and you don't know what to do, it might make more sense for you to simply buy the index that Nigeria has an all share index thirty. They have pen coom In's called pen coom index that have a bank index are like indexes that are tracking particular stocks.

So if you just buy what those that indexes buying and just forget about the security for an entire entire month, we make as much as the index. So I would say, if you don't know what you're doing, try to do index funds. They are cheaper to buy, they are more than specified and you're putting your quote and quote faith on the entire market. You're buying the market. I don't like day trading because you are trying to trade against people that are more experienced than you. When you are

day trading, you're doing what's called scalping. You are buying one sell at one point one and make one goble. You only make a lot of money with day trading if you have a lot of capital, because when you make ten goble spread, but you're both in million shares, it makes sense if you have a million Nira, what are you day trading? If you're converting in Millionario two dollars, it's like five hundred dollars. You can day trading. That is too small. If you make one hundred percent from

five hundred dollars, what is that? That's a thousand You get the points and making. But if I trade a billion dollars and I make points, zeros us lou one of that, do you know what I mean? So I would prefer that if it's based on your objectives, based on your age, if you know, if you're not sure what to do, just go buy index phone. If you're in the US, if you're Nigeria. Go to your broker. Listen, buy me the injects index or buy me the banking

index or buying so it's it's cheaper for you. Then you learn more about the market before you then go into individual stocks. Does that make sense to you? Yes? Yeah, so that's what I'll suggests for you. Right, try to do the index side first before you go into the individual stocks. I don't think you should day trade. It's to takes your time, it takes capital and you can lose everything.

Speaker 5

Yeah, okay, perfect, Great, Let me get more more fe I don't spoiler than a rock.

Speaker 1

It's thin. It's thin. Fullum, sorry about that. People dragging right? More feeling follower, more feeling follower more? Are you there?

Speaker 6

Yes?

Speaker 1

How are you doing?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Fine?

Speaker 1

You you've got the personally, I apologize, yes, okay, great.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so I'm just I'm just turning.

Speaker 1

So far.

Speaker 3

I would say, very nice information, but I did not.

Speaker 7

Get the part you mentioned of the party mentioned about the podcast one can listen to I. I have a lot of little cash. When I say looking Cass, I'm saying what's in both.

Speaker 1

My and invest and I'm looking for this is to invest, So I'm.

Speaker 7

Not just talkers having my money, just staying I do and know that, but I need to understand I.

Speaker 2

Don't just want to invest my investments.

Speaker 8

I don't just, for example, to say, okay, put your money.

Speaker 7

Here, I will like before and now it works out to my world's exponent.

Speaker 1

Okay, let's let's use you. Let's use you as an example. Right. So again, just just I'm not giving you financial advice. I'm trying to just pointing right eation, right. So everything I'm doing here is educational. I'm not giving you financial advice. I'm not your financial advice a right. But the very very first thing you should ask yourself is what is my plan? Why am I investing? That's a very very key question because once you answer that question, it determines

ways to invest. So if you say why am I investing? Am I investing for retirement? That's the statement that I convert to me in long term. If you say, I'm investing because I have this money, but I'm need it in two years for my project in my head, my financial head, I here two three years. So why you are investing is very very key to me. So I'm not sure if you can share it or if I should just talk and you can take it down and

then operate what you had your conversation. Do you want to share or just go ahead and you and I continue? What do you want to do?

Speaker 3

So?

Speaker 7

So I'm looking at medium and long term?

Speaker 1

Yeah? What what this medium ten for you? Five millium? Yeah? Medium? Medium is two three years years? Okay?

Speaker 3

Yes, do you want to look in a long term?

Speaker 1

But I'm looking for.

Speaker 3

Whatever I have right now to multiply.

Speaker 1

Okay. So you want you want to risk your principle, you want to do principal appreciation. I would I would not say no, I'm going I'm going to risk. I'm going to risk. We're just talking about your objectives now. So you want to You're saying you want to invest for two three years. You want to risk the principle. You want to multiply that principle, right, right? Do you need liquidity to during this time? Not so much? Not so much. I prepared to wait for two three years

if that that investment can grow. But you don't need liquid it. Okay, let's talk about your risk profile. It tomorrow the market fall by one hundred percent, are you okay? We live in it? There because you have a three year more ultimatum on my sorry timeline, or you don't take everything out what you're taking on this, I'm taking it. I'm sorry to have Okay. So it's the problem. It is the problem. When you are risk address, you can't risk your principle.

Speaker 8

You see.

Speaker 1

So if you want if I hear two three years, I'm yet shot ten. I'm not hearing stock markets at all. The stock markets are for investors that want to put their money minimum four, five and longer. Why because it's compounds. If you invest in say Tesla, look at Tesla before the elections, Tesla was how was worth one Sunday regip after the elections is about four hundred dollars. So in

this short space is gone up. It's gone down. So for someone like you that wants your more principal intact, imagine if you had bought maybe Testla or the op positive Testla. Imagine you had bought Moderna, but those COVID injections they were up there. Down in two years time you want your money back, it's no longer because it's gone down. So stocks are not for you for a

two year investor. Also, you said you want to grow your capital, but you don't want take a lot of risk, so that the two goals that not do not mayage. You understand, it's got to That's why I ask your objective. So your main objective bis on what I'm here, and you say is more or less a short term investments, right, fixed income where your capital is preserved. But to give you in biggers you say in more why that happened to make larger or return on your principle? So it's

no longer ruler. Principle is making a return on your principle? Right, Okay, let's do so. Now do you want to invest in Nigeria or dorte to invest abroad?

Speaker 2

What do you think you mean investing.

Speaker 1

Now in Iraq? Correct?

Speaker 9

That's not.

Speaker 1

Said. Okay, So if you're gonna do us the investment and you want a high rates of return, what you're looking for are going to be certificates of deposits you're you're looking for those guys. Now, if you do city in America, you're going to be getting anywhere from four percent, So I tried from about three percent to about five percent. Three about five percent if you can talk to your bank and your broker, three to five percent, if you want more. You can't tell your broker you don't want

fd ICY protection. What it means. It's not guaranteed, but it expluses yes. Now can you live with a non FDIC. You can say, well, this bank will not crash. It's in America. There's an implicit guarantee. You can see that, right, But you don't have the fd I guess is two thousand and below. So if you know, if you tell, if you tell a broker, listen, you can give me a city without fd I s. That means you can

get I will pay you five percent for now. Remember this week today is artificial because the high invision in America is going to calm down. So for also like you, that's what I'll ask you to look at. I won't actually look at bonds because you're looking at a short term two three years. That's a CD. I would go to a CD or a money market for your kid is going to be a money market because the move longer term and you can withdraw it out. Turn my program, can you give me the FDIC option, give me non

FDC option. When it gives me poth of them, I'll look at it. Built on my risk profile, I can decide to do. I can spread an investment into three or four companies, you know the CEM amount of spread across, or do a lot a lot. That means you do three months three months, so three months, six months, nine months majority, So every three months is mature and you're standing, we take that money you have, you divide into three

six nine, So every three months is maturing. So if it's mature, you like it, you invest from that three months. If you don't like it, you take it out. Things like that. But that's how that's how we would invest for you, because you're in and all that. If you have come to me and your said give me another objective or that this profile, you don't ask a class. So there's no better or best investment. There's only an investment that meets your objective, which is what I've just try to do today.

Speaker 2

Okay, thanks very much. Just two more questions.

Speaker 3

Okay, So first and first question.

Speaker 2

Would be.

Speaker 3

This also open to none of the citizens of the US.

Speaker 7

And secondly, because you mentioned I mean just between broker, I don't have one at the moment.

Speaker 2

This is something that I can maybe look to find something.

Speaker 1

And secondly, yeah.

Speaker 10

I just I just wanted to bring you back to part of the question.

Speaker 7

I asked about the respources I can used to you for knowledge because I.

Speaker 10

Like I said, I just don't want to be in best for investments. I also want and why I'm investing on the pigs or the instruments I need to be able to me for investing.

Speaker 1

A lot.

Speaker 5

Are two fantastic questions. Let's do your first question. Non US residents.

Speaker 1

Yes, because you're in the West, right, If you talk to your broker and you say you want access to a US city, I think you can get it for you. I know you need a US social to buy US depository investments, but I think your broker will find a way to buy it for you because they have funds wanted market funds that do that, right, especially if you're in the UK or SO, they can get away for you to get an exposure. Yes, so talk to them and say I want to get exposure to US cities.

There are also more cities that pay you more if you want, if you can take the risk. Turkish bonds are paying late ten percent, so you can go across the world. Just ask it, just google it, just say city heels across the world. They will give you lots of wills. Nigeria is paying in dollar terms dollar Nigeria for thirty years. So if you bought a euro bond, you should buy Nigeria to make about eight point. But that's the coop one. If you look at the yield,

it's more than eight. So if you buy that the rope bond, you should buy Nature. You get more than that from the secondary market. Right, And that's what I was ask people to do Niagien because you can do nicety a dollar. Also it's better Niger. But if you talk to your broker, I'm sure they can keep you away because you're getting the West. It's harder for in Nigerian to invest, but you are already there. They don't mok yc and you, so it's easier for them to

basically get that for you. So talk to them. They kind of hear on on on how you can grow yourself. My brother, it's the same way that you are. You a football lover, it's the same way the same way you lend what offside rule was? You watch football your uncle said offside, you did what they're talking about. Then you watch it again offside, then you actually up. Then you're not all offside means the same way you lend offside,

learn about the best You've got to go studied. Here people talk and I always recommend you to go to YouTube. So YouTube just just put YouTube outing about investments. You see tons of resources with videos that will break it down for you, explain to you in the way you can understand. Also, read books also with podcasts. Also listen to Bloomberg. Let me recommend my book as well. I'm a Nigerian guy, but I've worked across you. You have worked in the US as well, and after all, my

life is apart from when I started off. I don't finance, mind you. Money is for rich people, manage money in pension funds, manage moneys across the world. Right, So I've tried to write it very simple, but you understand. So if you get that book as well, it helps. Also on Twitter, just do the hashtag thin plant books. I'm going to shad thin plan books. That's hashtag fi n P l A n b A who kis. I also

created lots of books that was perfect for you. So if I want to do other books, just use that hashtag. You see lots of books that put there that are just great for you to read and learn. But I like you too. Like podcast just that many podcasts on money that I like. Every day you hear podcasts everything without the time. If you're driving, convert your card to a laboratory of learning. Just listen to music, podcasting money.

You pick up the terms. You pick up the terms, you understand how it works, You understand why there's offside, why there's this, why does this penalty? The same way. That's the best way I can advise you to go ahead.

Speaker 3

Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Well, yes, thanks so much.

Speaker 2

Ja.

Speaker 1

Okay, I've got a did did see I did? Come see me at this? So? How you doing? I'm doing great, excellent, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2

Yeah, good evening.

Speaker 3

So I am.

Speaker 11

I am should I say an employer employee?

Speaker 12

I'm employer people, and I'm most working for people. I think think I have two issues. I'm trying to manage my finances. I'm trying to manage my own income from my business and also from my job, and it's very difficult. It says that I make a lot of money per month, but to be able to manage it, to be able to attach.

Speaker 1

It to go to service, which.

Speaker 2

Goes to investments, which are spending.

Speaker 12

On myself at the end of the when everything becomes clumsy and I don't even know how I spend the whole money and which one went to the ritual and it's always clumsive for me. So I don't know if there is any way you're going to able to track my finances, how I make my money and how I spend them.

Speaker 1

Okay, So the first question is, so you you have a gig and you're also employed, well done? Are using an it app to track this cash flow? Are using at all? I want you okay? Because I think I think it's very I like this this question. I wish I would like to work with you really right to the first thing you have to understands to have to separate boat incomes, the income you mix and the income

business mix. Will have to separate both of them. First of all, I think I'm not sure, but I think there's a lot of core mingling of incomes and expenditures. And I think comingling is because you just haven't had the structure before we go into business strategy. I think the simple th introduce is ask you do you have where do you pay the gig income to? What bank? Does it not not know the bank. How many bank accounts do you have? I think I do have three?

So one so is anyone for yourself personally? The only one that I have.

Speaker 12

Personalities my big event.

Speaker 1

So that's your if you want to buy you where do you take the money from? Piggy best.

Speaker 13

Money?

Speaker 1

And it's the money point account for the business or.

Speaker 2

For you.

Speaker 1

From the business. I hear you, so you see. The first thing we're going to try to do right that most we can do but is to try to separate everything. If you separate everything you from your business, we can have a better sense of what's going on. Do you have an accountant that you're not that you're not that you're paying every month? Do you have someone that has audited your books before? Okay, that's fine. You can do

it yourself. There are many apps you can use. Right, you can buy an app and you can key in like I'm not sure if that your offers that where the app can go into your account and record all your transactions. You might have to do it yourself manually. There's an app like Mint. There's to be a Niger app or the longer available where you get this app you key in all your expenses and then the apput

code it for you. So Utilities supplies power to code those expenses for you on what you are doing on your business side and also for your personal side because you are losing a lot of money from not cleaning. Do you pay don't answer, but do you pay taxes? If you pay taxes and you cannot get your expenses listed out, you are listening of money. You're leaving money on the table. So you want an app that you

can code all your expenses you are making. You buy sua, you enter a cab, you buy cook Those are business expenses, but if you don't code them, you can't claim them. Also, if you don't code them, do you don't know if you're making money? Do you know how much profit you make? And how much income you make? Do you know that?

Speaker 2

I know?

Speaker 1

I hear you? Fantastic?

Speaker 9

So let let's do this right, just.

Speaker 1

Let's walk send me a DM right. First of all, if you go to I have an app that I can give you for free. I created it, right, it's on its online. You can keep coding your own personal income and your own personal expension, but it's not for the business. So for instance, you can go in there and you can say this is the income I make. It can couple the passive income from your business. But

that is only for the business. If you want to do three, you can do three and have one for your personal self and then do one for the business self. You can do that on the app. It's on my website. It's not my website, it's my name, Carlo Aga or orgy. If you better going to see financial calculator, it's a big red columny that if you hit it, they're going to give you. You see where you're putting your goals. You see your income, it's your expenses, it's your cash.

It wasn't automatic for you, so once you're putting your income, you will sort of like dopyting else for you. What you want to do today, this is greatest twenty and five is you want to have three books, Go and buy two exercise books. You don't do this computer one. Buy three exercise books, one for yourself, one for the business, one one for business.

Speaker 2

Two.

Speaker 1

You separate everything. If you make income, write it down. So when you have an accountanty, just give him. If you want to have an Excel sheet to the exact same thing. Excel one for the business one Excel two for business too. Start to track the income and the expenses just as well on this program. Track your income, track your expenses. Just do that alone. When you get the expert, you give that to him. He will give you your balance sheet. You'll give you your income, you

give you expenses. If you want to send me a DM, let me work with you. I'm not gonna charge you, don't worry. Just want to use you as as you say, a key story, right, So we just to organize all that for you. So but you have to show that you want to be too popper about right, So let's

do that for you. So first and first, we're going to separate everything from generally first, right, so we're lucky, so generally rest you should know every income that comes from business one, from business too, and your personal so it's all separated. That's what you do. Then Nomber two, you record them. Can you do that for me? Just separate and record That's all I do today. Separate and record them by generally and we get an song that will come and do your your audits for you. Then

you can have a picture. You might be making losses you don't know by making property.

Speaker 14

You don't know.

Speaker 1

Let's let's start out with you send me a DM go to the website. So that's for your personal but today you're gonna do separation and recording. That's what we're gonna do from generator first, separation and recording. Right, thank you very much. Welcome. Second question, what's the good question?

Speaker 15

Really?

Speaker 12

Really many things about to correct the space to have aged about it and have probably say if you back you would you buy it, sells about it.

Speaker 1

You see that going to lasday and tomorrow and you be seeing it.

Speaker 3

Down that what is happening to you?

Speaker 12

Don't say it's going to like what crazy ship is happenings.

Speaker 3

I just want to have any knowledge about it. I'm not diving into it yet.

Speaker 11

That's just it.

Speaker 1

But do you have any investments at all currently? Yes? I do have buy on picking so just live on you just you just have money, we pick invest like just see money with them. Yes, okay, okay, any of the investments so that the commercial paper is an investment. The service is not right, so that's all you have, right, Okay? Do you have an rs C? Do you have an RSS okay? So can you open up a retirement service account? Is it possible. Yes, okay, do that. So you've got

the piggy that's perfect. Let's do our RSSA. Then we can start you with buying. And how young you are about to sound, I'm gonna say so if you sound younger, I want you to do more of equities, So to invest in equitizations because then you can take advantage of your age and compound. Right because at your what's the interest you're making from piggy bes cepeple, what's the interest?

Speaker 6

Do you know?

Speaker 2

Okay, as I do.

Speaker 3

Or something.

Speaker 1

Let's let me let's let's give its fifteen percent inficiality in Nigeria. Do you know what do you think it is? So it's about it's about it's about ten percent. So the Piggy Best money you're making. You're making money, but in real terms we're meeting. In real terms, we're not making money. So we'll look out. I want you to look at it this way. The piggy Best can be your fund right, the CP. The CP can be your little savings like okay, short time things. We'll have to

get you into one that time savings. That's how I do mis account. And we're going to try to buy you some equity, US equity and your equity. We get two of them, right, So but one thing, you're going to separate your back account for your personal Like I'm going to have three accounts on Excel, on an Excise book, or on an app if anybody has an app that doesn't send me a d M or shared, but separate

and record. That's for what you're gonna do. Nomber three, you're gonna put up an r C. And number four, I try to open up and app and allow you to buy shares. There are three shares, there are three companies.

Speaker 2

I like to do this.

Speaker 1

That's secretary start Chacker, Cowie and Bamboo were talking amount give you my mission. So I want you to get into longer term investments. That's we do all before crypt That's what I'm going to this man story. I want you to do all this because the crypto is going to be one to tell them. The portfolio. It should be a great portfolio. You want to be You want to take advantage of your age. Your age is a big factor. It's you are younger, So take avantage of

that crypto. Right yeah, perfect, all right, super super nice questions. Appreciate you, thank you. Let's guess who is your sir? Who your.

Speaker 3

I am going to thank you? So I'm busining a state and my question kind of like one of them, is the E T E turns stands similar to.

Speaker 1

MH.

Speaker 2

Is there any like.

Speaker 3

The other?

Speaker 1

But that's the same thing. Mutual funds, So ETFs exchange traded phones, mutual funds. The message that you can trade the mutual fund during the day. That's et F exchange traded fund or mutual funds. So when you burn et F you can sell it by PM. I buy three PM. The mutual fund you have to wait till the end of the day to do any like a unique trusting Also, ets have some tax advantages that that mutual phones don't have. So I personally prefer ETFs that mutual phones and all

that flexibility. Yeah, but the same one, the same thing, no difference.

Speaker 3

Would you add.

Speaker 6

Langer or the US, because I don't the US is lower with turns and new there I think have done it can be.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know, no, I can't give I cannot give advice on social media. Let me just put that car in there. But let me let me let me ask this way, if you tell me more about you, I can tell you your so. No, but look at this way do you buy would you buy Messy if MESSI was playing very very badly or MESSI was playing perfect? When would you buy Messy when MESSI mess you Let's say Message is playing bad or ex playing good? When did you bad good or bad? Tim buy him? When I was playing bad good?

Speaker 16

I was playing good?

Speaker 1

But if he's playing good, will his price go up or down? So you buy him good or bad?

Speaker 2

Oh?

Speaker 1

Him bad? Why why are you buy him bad?

Speaker 17

Because become good?

Speaker 1

So you know he's no good? So you know he's good, right, but it's cheap because it's bad because he's playing bad now, but you know he's good. I be good. But would you buy me if I'm playing good or that? Would you buy me?

Speaker 16

Yeah?

Speaker 1

You would you buy me? No, you won't buy because when you buy me good or you buy me bad, it doesn't matter. I'm not going to play well, so you don't buy me at all. So the answer is that if you don't invest in Nigeria, I want to ask if it is Nigeria is good investments? Look at it this way, four out of one not for African Nigeria. Nigeria has football has gas, has coastline, has arable land to the civil power, the largest number of diaspora outside

Africa from Africa, the most educated Africans. It's so with all this, do you think that this is a good place for money in? Obviously yes, the question is when should make the money in and where should we put money in. We can't put money in and for ten years it's a look of place with the money's just going to waste because people will just steal it or do nothing, or you can't put money in. After five years the place has a good president and we're just booming.

Speaker 3

We don't know.

Speaker 1

So because you don't know, I would say if you have one that you can invest and forget about. Niu has the perfect way to invest, perfect way to invest, because if you're going from dollar to Nigeria, right, you are buying Niger on a discount. If I take a million, it's by take six hundred dollars. That's a millionner. If I take a millionaire to my village, I can buy lots of farmland with six hundred dollars. If it becomes good, I can't buy a round again with six rd dollars.

So for the foreigners, amongst us it that's brand. You have an advantage, you have made more expensive currency. Do you packause you are buying Niger at a discount. You take a dollar and you buy the round stocks. You're buying an implicitly discounted mark. Kids. So that's the answer for you. If you believe that Niger will turn around tomorrow, it's a great time to buy. If you think it's all over for Nigeria. Don't want your money, keep it back with you, But it depends on your attitude to

risk how long you want to invest that money. I know a guy that took money and invested rents and he built the university's and house in Nigeria. He's got his money back. But when you message want to doors, it's nothing, But he gets his money back. So I told the guy, you haven't lost your money, you just don't have a way to invest the returns. So if you take your money there you go and buy palm canel,

or you buy a cashoe and you're exported. You tink you've got the willing back, but no one has that time, you see. So that's your answer for you. Really, it's it's a disgusted market. If you want to buy the best. You can't go wrong. But then again it depends on your objectives and your risk profile.

Speaker 17

It's gonna be in the US, like.

Speaker 1

I would give you, I would go, I would do Vanguard or Fidelity. Why Banguard because they are cheaper. Vangard is the largest, so your cost to purchase they have very very low expensive You know about VT VTVT. This has all Vanguard. So if you buy those stocks, you are buying. If you want to buy, let me give it. If you want to buy all the stocks in the world, like I live ones right, you just buy something called

VT VT. That's an ET that buys all the stuffs that are going to buy a Microsoft, Tesla, Samsong, Toyota, all the stocks in the world. That's VT. But if you want to buy just five thousand, four thousand, Fiveulus stocks in the US alone, buy vt I. That's just VT but just in the US VT I. But if you want to buy in the US also, but only five hundred stock, I want to buy four on I don't buy five min stucks in the US. Then you buy v oh oh, that's five minute stocks in It's

how I'm coming down. I went from the world VT. I went to VT I which was stocks. I got to b O O with his five on the stocks. But if I don't want to buy the US at all, I want to buy some song, and I do want to buy US, I buy v x U S. That is all the stocks, and I was the US. If I want to buy bones, I buy b n D. If I want to buy property, I buy v n X. This is our whole banger. So why Bangard because it's large,

So the cost to buy one stock is cheaper. You buy the same stock, but it's cheaper with Bangard all so I always go with them because of the cost. Here they're not paying me. They don't pay its thing because I use them, or you go through your back. I normally buy to my bank and all that. But those guys also give you a good deal. Yeah, welcome, I've got giant, a giant hyry a giant olu. Yeah, Hi, go ahead? Can I speak up? Can I speak up a bit?

Speaker 13

Yeah?

Speaker 1

I'm good evening, Hello, say go ahead? Yes, all right.

Speaker 3

My question is also ask about the investments network.

Speaker 18

Do you have investments network or a group of funders.

Speaker 19

I'm interested in.

Speaker 3

Firstructural investments in.

Speaker 18

We have for a couple of frits, specially uh.

Speaker 3

Ants Milly grets yourself.

Speaker 1

Somewhere you're going I understand where you're going to, Okay, but we don't not the right space for it. I don't. It's not not the right space for it. But I only have the bettles I can do this. Did he drop up? Yeah? Not the right space for it, per se. And even if I had investors not here, maybe send me a d N. But it's not something I think I do. I don't have an I can't be an invested. You need to need to talk to angel or seed or private equity people. That's why you talk to There's something.

There's something called legos injurls network. Stef can google its legals injureds network. If you can google there and if you can get some some because I don't do Google power see, someone can invest in you. You get get an investment, local investment, get a large one to get for investments. So if you can go over there and if someone can invest in you appreciate that. Let me get Frank. I've got Frank, mister Frank f Flo.

Speaker 3

Yeah, give me everybody.

Speaker 5

So have.

Speaker 20

You said something about inflation being that stripper.

Speaker 2

I don't know if I got that brod that someone is making money in the.

Speaker 3

Pat she's not really making any money.

Speaker 1

So my question is.

Speaker 20

I will have an investor mm hmm, give me in the business, the profit and laws.

Speaker 2

So we've found out that.

Speaker 9

We made around you know, it's a millionaire profit, and then we did expense.

Speaker 2

Of forty million era, then we didgaquity and then we are taxteen million ere short.

Speaker 1

So I couldn't account for.

Speaker 2

That because I have I know the basic knowledge of accounting.

Speaker 1

I missed that, frank of that, I couldn't rank.

Speaker 2

I couldn't.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I missed you.

Speaker 1

You dropped off? Can you cover over you? You loved what I said. I'm not nothing, I'm calling.

Speaker 3

Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1

So I said.

Speaker 2

I was able to do the bookkeeping. I tried got the expenses.

Speaker 3

So we did the perfectly.

Speaker 2

Made and it is also the same as the expenses made.

Speaker 1

Okay.

Speaker 3

So what we did we played what many in the business. We were eighteen million shots. I couldn't account for that.

Speaker 1

Pause pause, you invested how much in the.

Speaker 3

Business around the hundred million?

Speaker 1

About that goes to that goes to the balance sheet, right, So now you said, you made your you made this stop profit and loss. So how much the profit or loss did you make?

Speaker 2

Sorry I didn't get the question.

Speaker 1

So you invested one hundred million, that's your balance sheet. So I'm asking let's go down to your profit and lost statement. How much profit or loss did you make? Eight million? One eight million? Okay, So there's no connection with your one hundred million, and you're eighteen. You know that because eighteen it's your profit. So this test team then you're looking for saying you cannot find it. Wait, did did you it's in your balance sheet? It's not

in your incompetement. I'm not sure if you you're fooding what I'm saying. If I take you a one hundred million, I invest in my business, I buy head office, I buy a car, I buy a computer, and I do business. The business gives me eighteen millions. That's that's that's revenue or revenue does not have the connection with my balance sheet. Person, So when you say you can't find test million, are you saying you you can't find where you invested TESTI million.

Speaker 16

Like testimon was seen from the equity, it'sposed to see it in the equity.

Speaker 2

Like everything in the business.

Speaker 1

No, no, no, no, what do you mean by it? Says in the equity? The equity is your car, your office, cash in the bank. If I bring in a hundred million to do a business and I take ten millions and buy an office and computer, so I have office and computer maybe to two million, then I should have eight million the bank. So what are you saying? I say, you don't have the money the bank or the computer or what are you saying? The equity I'm talking about is just this stock. Let's talk the inventory.

Speaker 3

Yeah, the inventor, yes, yeah, So so.

Speaker 1

Now that's your balance. So you bought maybe you bought gala. You can't find thee to the someone's to the gallon Franky songs. The inventory because if you bring in raw cash as capital and you buy stock, which is inventory, that stock is on your balance sheet. The way you sell the stock, the stock comes to your income. So you bought let's make it simple, you used the one hundred billion and you bought stock. Do you have balanchet

what one hundred million? Then you sold eighteen million. That goes to your income as statements as eighteen million sales. That means that we do your audit your eighteen is a different book attire only your asset side. You should have one side to show your stock a one hundred million and your capital one hundred million. So when you sell that stock for eighteen million, right, the balance would

still be in your warehouse. Now, when your balance sheet, you should balance your stock should balance with your sales. Maybe your bank statements or your debt of sticks should balance your stock. Because the stock is leaving your your company to be converted to cash or debt. So each stock will leave your company, you're going to get cash or debt. That's where the difference is.

Speaker 2

Is.

Speaker 1

I'm not gonna make it complicated. If if we've missed it somewhere, it may do a record. When you have one hundred bags of rice and one bag of rice lead your warehouse, you should have on the corresponding side, cash or debtors should balance Your hundred bags should balance to cash, the bank or debtors. The point I'm making it so do you an accountant, Yes, So that's an easy that's an easy answer for your accountant. They can't give you the answer fire you got somebody else's That's

that's easy answer for your accountant. Frank it's a simple call for him. It's a simple call for your accountant. When you sell goods, you either get cash or debtors, and the cash was debtos should be equal to your inventory, so your balance to balance. If it's not balancing, that means either somebody stole your stock, or you have no cash in the bank, or you have your sold money on credit. I do know who you sold it to. It's one of these three answers. Either your student.

Speaker 2

With inflation.

Speaker 1

It's not doing with inflation, because you are going to carry that stock and still sell it. When you sell your eighteen million, is where you are going to put

your inflation, right, you're uprising. So if you bought your one hundred million goods at a one hundred million IRA right when you want to sell, you can add your inflation and say, okay, I'm going to sell each bag of ride at one hundred Ira plus percent for my inflation plus my real profit, so that when you are send that eighty million, you are capturing all those costs.

So it goes back to my answer. The inventory will not be equal to your revenue, right, that is your inflation adjusted revenue, right, and that revenue will go to your bank or to get us. That's the different question asking now that when you're putting your pricing, you should have taken to account in fiction and your cost of sales to add to your COSTO. We don't have that leverage because moving. What are you saying? What are you saying? Frank, you buy a tenne error, we sell not much, but

you have to sell it first at what price? You don't have any imagine? We are the imagine like around, How do you demine? Imagine? It's just that's a selling so you can be able to sell. Frank, you have accountant now, no, no, each you can't do that. Now you have you have a cost. When you have a cost, you have to sit down every day or every hour you ask yourself, this is my cost a B. You have to know what your break even is. You have an accountant, write it down. What is your break even?

Your break even is the price that you must sell that commodity to make a profit or even to cover your cost, not even profit, just to cover your cost. In that break even, he will put infusion, he will put nepper, he will put in the last man, he put everything that even. You will tell you we must sell out for fifteen error to break even. If you sell a fourteen making a loss, that's where your capital

is going to. That's why your disappearing. If you sell to the loss, your capital will disappear because on one side you have a one hundred million, on the other side you have bank balanced less than one hundred million.

That's the test, Sar you're looking for, Frank, don't because for you I can fully, but I'm giving you all the insight for you now right, you are counters and given the outside it's very very simple thing you're You're just not either you're not not capturing your costs properly, or are not capturing yourself properly.

Speaker 3

The reason we are is because we are we are.

Speaker 2

We are distributed.

Speaker 1

It doesn't matter cost, it does matter. It doesn't matter. You have the cost. You must have the cost of sales, then you sell and take a profit. Well, I did enterprise every second. If you can't do the business, you can't stay in the business. You get what I'm saying, Frank. If you want to talk about DM, right, but let's I don't want to keep put yours. I can consult for you on this, bro. But it's a very simple thing. You're missing the very best simple things that the number

one you're not capturing your cost properly. Number two people are owe you on a tree. You're not capturing your sales. It's there, it's There's not a it's not a hard thing you're asking, but is more what you say it.

Speaker 3

So do that.

Speaker 1

I beg Yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, let's get l v H D l BT.

Speaker 15

Okay, I have a big question that is concerning government part securities and assets and yeah, so you know, I've been doing some reading recently and one trend is the increasing levels of foreign and domestic that I.

Speaker 3

Don't think it has app is high in trend.

Speaker 15

History with the risk significant risk of declining areas for revenue.

Speaker 2

I think he also said something like that earlier today yesterday. My question to you is that are their.

Speaker 15

Concerns, you know, concerns when it comes to UH risk when it comes.

Speaker 1

To government defaulting on their debt obligations.

Speaker 3

And the reason I see that.

Speaker 15

Is because ordinarily one of the government assumes that it is supposed to be used to fund capital products.

Speaker 3

Things that would a revenue. But I think what we're seeing, especially for the domestic is that the spread and morning to get up some of that publications. Well for the foreigner taking on that to pay off existing debts.

Speaker 2

So do you from your perspective, do.

Speaker 3

You think it default is in the future.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean, if you look at the year, was it IMF or not FITCHU was Fitch this weekend has said that I don't how to look at their physical deficits. What they were saying was this that with every project we've had, this year's budget, last year's budget, what we basically do is we say we end ten era, we're going to spend fifty, so we have a deficit project. This is what we've done for as far as I can remember, but especially the last two budgets. We at

ten error. This is plus oil, we end tener, we want to spend fifty. So the gu is cutting a quote according to her size, not her plot. That's a big problem. The problem is this, we are borrowing eurobone, which is dollar, and we're also borrowing naira in nyra debt. We can print money and pay The last administration borrowed the equivalent wait for it, the dollar equivalent of fifty billion dollars, and how do we pay for that? Fifty

billion dollars. We've printed did forty billion or whatever, forty billion dollar bond. We've printed that money. So now you is printing nira to pay back n ira. If you look at the budget, forty five percent of board is going to debt servicing. So if you pay the debt and you pay salaries, the entire budget is gone. We are borrowing to pay borrowing. We are borrowing to pay salaries before you ever get to billion roots. But it's a big problem because what happens if tomorrow oil price

goes to fifty dollars in barrel, Now it's done. We're done because at up even now that's why we're not now. But god, this price, we can't pay the debt. But that we have, especially urobod Andreas light as oil something like that frecks. NNA is n NPC, but NNPC is not in the budget. If you pull up the fat but you don't see an NPC, You don't see it in any state. But what do you see? An NPC's in a softidy payment that you're paying. NNPC pay is subsidy.

But look at what is doing. NPS is also borrowing dollars and using the collateral of the NIEUA and Ira npiece revenues to pay. So NPC is borrowing. Nigeria is borrowing in dollar nira. We borrowed two billion dollars in December twenty twenty four to set this twenty twenty four budget, not no typo. We're borrowing in December twenty four two billion dollars to finance the twenty twenty four budget for

the big huge promise. As a matter of fact, is the biggest of Nigeria today because if oil goes to fifty because of battle, we're done for now. That's a big risk. The only thing that gives me a bit of confidence in Nigeria today is than go to a refinery because as Dangote keeps on up, he can export more products and gets more dollars into the country than is a revenue source. I don't think he would budget.

Guys have and will have the ground so that they might save the balance sheets, but I don't know how much because I's fighting him, you know. So when he exports his byproducts, that's the new revenue stream for Nigeria. He's already the largest non oil exporter with you real fertilizer. Imagine what he starts to export those other byproducts, that's going to be a big saving. So that's my answer

to you. Right, the biggest risk today in Nigeria is the oil price no fall to fifty or sixty and we cannot not money that not any enough to pay salaries and police police. So lt that's the answer. It's a big problem that the principal today.

Speaker 2

And that brings me to my second and final question. Thanks for answer the answer that you're provided.

Speaker 3

Looking at the fact that you know the United States is a.

Speaker 15

New president is coming in your president that believes the franking and standing our production of energy.

Speaker 2

Right, that's crude all.

Speaker 15

I believe this could impact the global oil market, which could follow up bring down our process on the on the global market.

Speaker 2

I don't know if.

Speaker 15

It is a wise idea now to invest in government backed securities.

Speaker 2

I mean my drank of packed securities, which honestly is like a money printer looking at the interest rates.

Speaker 21

So would you advise someone that is a innovement so to say that's fit in the drum market? Would you say the government backed securities would be a stable source or a stable.

Speaker 15

Investment or trustworthy investment.

Speaker 1

For that So I should what you're asked investgation by anan predocmentary. That's what you.

Speaker 3

Accent.

Speaker 1

I hear you, So look at it this way right there. No again, I'm not giving you advice. There is no good or bad investment. There's only an investment that marches objectives. Yes, I saw that the risk free really doesn't. Invest in Nigerian government bonds today for one year you're going to get twenty nine percent risk free, which means you don't take any risk. It will not default the bad default on.

You know why because they will prints pay. So if you give Nigeria one nira, they will give you back in one year one nira. Technico go risk free. Why should I go and invest like a day comes he's doing? Why should I buy the shop when I can get ten too percent? Niger Government risk free? So is paying me more than banks on pay me. So it's a big problem for the economy because if the government is paying you more than banks, ever's gonna go to the government.

No one's gonna go to the Banks's amo's gonna create jobs to the big, big, big problem. But it's the best investment today in Nigeria. That's the problem where else would you invest. There is no investment today that is regulated that is bus in inflation. Only the Nigeria stock market as an index. It's busing inflation or a they have particular individual stocks bused in inflation. But where else

do you invest? So the answer is to you if you want to do bones and money market, that is your mind is looking at short ten returns, short term returns. You can't find a short tail retails in nature that is safer and the venog bombs that is gonna be with nine percent none, So the size if you're looking

for a short term that's your best bet. If you have but you don't have fifty million after the big boys, your your best is going to be in federal sibbings bombs that are two and three years and pay you like eleven percent, and I think it's ten percent because you have maybe five k. But if you have fifty million, your best bus is pedogment bombs because that's the per saved best investment. I'm sorry to say, but it's a big problem. It's not it's not a good thing. It's

bad to ten percent. So you take it if that's your If you have a short investment and you don't want to risk that's your best investment. All right, You're welcome an any time. Let's get tech tech and solar energy. Pious.

Speaker 3

Good evening, mister Cable.

Speaker 1

I'm so glad to be here. Thank you so much for what you do.

Speaker 3

Mine is a very simple one. I was need class like this or what's up?

Speaker 19

And the person was talking to us about investments, especially fixed the posit and that I want to mysty I'm thinking of doing something in that area we are I'm looking at is I'm thinking of using because I've looked at the impest one is the target sven is fifteen percent and they fixed.

Speaker 1

Ahead. What's the question?

Speaker 22

Okay, my question is this the person who the somebody told me that if any bank or whatever is giving you physical is more than five percent, and the usually runs fig.

Speaker 1

So I'm seeing this.

Speaker 3

And I'm scared. I don't know if I should do it.

Speaker 1

So what I would say is, if you want to invest online, I think only only uses SEX registered platforms, and I'm going to just share a tweet now on the SEC registered investment apps. Now, I'm not saying that the other ones are not safe. I'm just saying this. At the second registered ones sex has fund rested, so fully registered. I mean Big Invests has a license right and all that only in put your money in the world that have a license. I'm the guys, so I'm

going to go towards sex. That's what I'm gonna just share tweet. I think it's bamboo, just share it now, Bamboo, it is registered, Bamboo, Bamboo is there. Then we have howy wise, so let's put calorie wise.

Speaker 3

The o W.

Speaker 1

Why your carry your eyes? Then we have shacker. Shacker has been bought by I think Rise, so put shocker there c h ak so this I don't say the ones shacker. How do you spell shacker? Who knows your chacker? Dogs? So I don't share this. This one's are the second registered. Once I know if I've missed anyone Perstan the DM added, so number one only goes through these sepects. That apps number two, my brother. Interest rates go are revolved and in what we call the m p R, m PR

and monetary policy series is almost twenty five percent. So banks paying you five percent are cheating. You should put more in any bank paying you five percent, but you should not put on in the bank paying you one hundred percent, I'll be worried. So I would say, like I said, the father is paying you. You can get many guys that can pay you legally more than that we had. This guy is from most of your name.

I do want the space pain almost percent. If you for the first time, let me get their name for you. Banking Bankly, I know if you are here. I shared Bankly a long time ago, were here they were as almost percent. So if you go go bankly, they are they're micro fenance bank right. They also have high interest. You can also go with them as well. So there lots of legal folks that can pay you more than that five percent. That that's why I would go to.

But again remember this is savings is short term. I don't think to put money in the Civies account for a for a longer term because it's fixed income. It's not basic inflation. It's a short term exposure. Did you have a flow before on?

Speaker 3

I'm okay, I'm okay, you're good for sure?

Speaker 1

Perfect, sure, perfect, that's a mazing no Mas, what's up man.

Speaker 2

London clay As.

Speaker 3

It was system system?

Speaker 2

I wonder really wise, like Jordan and best reforms doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1

Simple outside is no is no. So so if you if you are in the West and you are not you're your student, or you don't have a job, get a credit card, not because you want to spend, but because you want to build your credit score. That's the only reason you should get a credit card. So I would get a credit card that gives me points. So for instance, if I spend the dollar, I get points. Either it can be cash or it can be mild. I would use that credit card, not my debit card.

So I build up a lot of points and I use the point for free. But I'm only doing that because I want to build my credit history, not to take a credit to credit loan. Should never use a credit card to invest because what happens in the first of all credit cards and a stupid you will not see any investments in America that will pay you more than a credit card. No that will pay you. So you can't take credit card money and investigators that make

more money. What people try to do is because credit cards don't charge you for the first thirty days, So people try to sneak and use the credit card, do business for thirty days and pay back without paying interest. But what if you feel, and you didn't have to pay interest, you've lost all your money because credit cards are the most expensive form of borrowing America, almost ten

percent percent. So it's not a good idea. So if you're a younger guy, you're in school, you don't have the means to pay off your credit card every month. Get the credit card, but don't keep a balance on it. Get it for the points, get it for the credit history. Don't try to use a credit card to invest. That's a simple and amazing thank you about so much perfect. Let's getting trust in camp. Trust up, trust in camp. You are alive, but you're not speaking ahead, thinks that.

Look mister Christ, mister Chris, how are you doing? So let's mister Chris go ahead.

Speaker 14

Yeah, I agree, I'm fine, Okay, I've been listening to you. This is my first science speaking on the space. I'm going to cross lood. So I don't really know what to do at this point. I already have a lot of stocks. I'm a business man. I have a business that I'm doing commonly in an area. There is a small business here. But this is fetching me a lot of money in sta So I mean you're planning to open another.

Speaker 1

Business, another kind of business.

Speaker 14

I'm that kind of business, of which I'm not even I don't really have any knowledge about it, but at least I have someone close to me who is going no money in the business. So I don't really know what to do, because you know, keep your money in the bank. I don't think it's addressable, but I really want I already need your advice.

Speaker 1

I can't give you advice on what to do with your money. It's not possible and social. I don't know you. I have a risk analysis on you. I can only do that. I can hold on a mine. I can only do that when I understand your objective is what you want to do. I can give you advice. I don't do that. You can send you a d M. I will charge you whatever. I can't tell you what to do your money. I'm not I can't give your advice, so you can't do that round. Yeah, perfectly, ad.

Speaker 3

I wanted to ask you something.

Speaker 1

I was thinking of starting a farm.

Speaker 2

Business by nesty or.

Speaker 23

Sellar is not up to the minimum, which and I don't know if there's a way I could go into.

Speaker 3

It and still go ahead with my own normal feeding and all this stuff like that.

Speaker 1

Do you think it's possible? How would you buy the fertilizer? I was thinking of.

Speaker 23

Joseph making use of manual. Mean's like this local fit from.

Speaker 1

She's from chick Let me, let me, let me just, let me just I don't want to be stand But if if you don't have capital, you can't go into business. It's not possible because your business its capital. So you can. You can start off a small guardian farm, you know, for yourself. But I don't see how you can do business. Family is a business, right. If you found chickens that you have the eggs, how will you get those eggs to market? You know? If you need that less of

how you fund it. Perhaps you start up a small farm, then get family and friends to invest in. You get one small shop you can you can sell them to produce and say, okay, hey this small shop. If you guys pay me in advance, I can supply you with tomato things like that. That's how you want to start small? You know, what do you want to grow? Okay? So if you're gonna grow cassava, who are you where are you going to sell the cassava too? Do you have

an off taker? It can be kind of now it can't have to be able to have write a business plan. I would say, if I have cassava, this is my off taker. Because your off taker is your revenue. Right, So if you don't have all these things, you've got to write it down on a business plan. Say if I'm going to found CASA, I will get to Sutons. I will sell to this person that out there is

your main source of revenue. If you come to me and say, hey, Calu, I have an off taker, but it pays me after ninety days, but not need cash. Hey now we have a promo, can solve together. But you have to show you know, walk to show your workings. I'm doing this. I need to expand, but you do you understand where I'm coming from. You can't this a business. I would say start small, lend the ropes, go and work for someone and learn what they do, how they

do and how they save money. Then come on, come on, do do it on your own plot. You do small, you will have a guy in the village in the town that has one hundred k is not using He gives you a hundred key invest in your farm. You give you back. You will tell his friend you'll give you on that home break, you invest in your farm, you give them back. That's how you do it. Family and friends. You can be talking about the business for now. Start small family and friends, grow your farm, get them

off the start like that, have you. It has to be a process. You get what I'm saying. It has got to be a process. Yeah. And so also another question to ask you, I've been learned about.

Speaker 2

You in the for like a world.

Speaker 23

I don't have large capital and so I'm good at it. More I don't know, is it anyway I could use my skill to get phone for myself?

Speaker 1

Not really, I know, like how we started off this this space and also the other space of emphasized that investing is not the first or second thing that you do. If you write up a budget and your income cannot cover your your discussion expenses should not be investing. If you drop up a budget, the very very first thing you focus on is an emergency fund. We won't talk about buying insurance before you talk about the investing. You've got to sort of do those ones first. If you

are single, you don't have dependence, you need insurance. But if you are single living in Nigeria. Your emergency fund is more important than even your investment account. There's no point by an investment that you're going to sell tomorrow to pay for diesel. So I would say focus on the on learning, build an emergency fund, growing your income. The most the most viable investments you can do right now side is you take your income and learn a

skill and increase your income and buying stock. You are in stock, buy stocking yourself, go and lends on that that doubles your income. Let a skill that will double your income. Then that way is easier for you to invest right.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 1

That is asking a question on dmnswer At what point can someone say they've invested in themselves enough and they have enough endenes to start investing in equities. I'm not sure what the question you're asking. Investing in equities is investing in yourself and so when you want to invest, you want to answer this question why am I investing? Usually the answer is that you want to invest to meet an objective. The easiest objective that you want to retire.

If you want to retire, your objective then becomes you want to make passive income that can pay your expenses. When you invest in equities, you are taking your active income to do an investment that you hope would pay you passive income. Whether it's in a dispera or in Nigeria. Your objective is to convert active in come to passive income. Look at the list of the richards men in the world.

All of them make money from passive income. From Eland Musque to the guys are on Google to Bill Gates, they all make money from passive income, not from active income. Bill Gates does not go to any office to walk to get paid. Eland must not go to any office to work to get paid. They're making that money from equity holdings passive income, so that you should copy them. So that's your objective. Convert to your active income, whether

in Nigeria or America, to passive income. Then a passive income then pays you whenever your passive income can pay your expenses. That's when you have arrived. Right, let's get future roller, future native professor, how you future native roler highs words and can go ahead? Okay, so thank you for the opportunity to come up here. Quick question here, I want to ask, amongst the top us company's stocks, which I would you advise to buy.

Speaker 3

And keep on a long run.

Speaker 1

Why am I asking this?

Speaker 2

Is this?

Speaker 1

I bought Nvidia this year for I bought it like august Os for like four hundred dollars, which is.

Speaker 3

Like about six hundred or sixty two kers at the time.

Speaker 24

Someone advice that actually does by the hospitals and Strop is coming in February whichever next year, and I bought it, but I've lost like forty two dollars already on it.

Speaker 3

So I have about like three seventy something or.

Speaker 1

Three sixty something or their only platform, and I'll be following like trains on one app like that. And I'm saying that is a Testler that is kind of gaining momentum now and their decrees have not really like being more. So I'm looking at either convert my envydea and add more money to buy like one million Testler and see if I can hold for a year. But I don't want in situation where I'll buy another one and I'll just continue your mom, you know what we want? You

know what? I like your question because because it allows you to then talk about what you're doing wrong. Sorry, I don't to you, what are you doing wrong? You are turning. You are buying an investment that you should hold and forget about for the next two three years. You are buying it to sell to trade. You are making more money for your stockbroker than for yourself. When you buy stocks, your media you're holding Peers should be indefinite or maybe two or five years. And Nvidia was

up and down, up and down, up and down. But I challenge you go back ten years and plot your graph. It's in Vidia up or down. It's up. If you sell today and buy test line it, you know invest It's like you know how legals ghost noise. You know how legals ghost noise. You are on one lane, the linit on your right hand side starts to move, so you leave your lane and go to that left hands. So as leave your lay, your list has to move. Then you want to rush back to your lane. All

that going back and forth, you're wasting fuel. But if you stay on Tendmi language, it's no how you won't get up the Tamil language. All the cast will just keep on moving forward. The point I make is that binancet binance is treading, is churning. You are paying brockage fees. I only make you're not getting the advantage of equities, the advantage of equities that you can buy, hold and compound. If you can't stay in the EXTRAUS market, then don't don't go in there. I don't go in there to

buy in VideA. You if you want to buy a company, only two things matter to you. Is this company going to be around for the next ten years? I would make a profit for me. Do you believe in Nvidia will go away in ten years? That's the question. If the answer is it will not go away, then why are you selling? Maybe with your money there? Why are you selling it? If you think Tesla will not go in ten years? Okay, get me money and buy Tesla.

But when you buy, when you buy sell, buy self, you are making a loss because you are paying commission fees from your principal. So it goes back to your first question, which company should you buy? Why not buy all of them? Why not buy the index? If you buy the index, you're going to buy Nvidia, test Man or them altogether at once because you don't have the money to trade. But if you want to buy the video dog, he has to go back to why are

you investing? If you're a trader, no problem. You can do this buying and selling, but you need capital to trade. Don the trader then just stay locked into the market, or buy the ETA that was finer. It's the long term truck. Can you get where I'm coming from? I think you're doing. I get you where you're coming from.

Speaker 3

I'm not a trader.

Speaker 1

I just buy and leave it there. But I'm asking is this now? I have another money to buy and I'm losing money on very day? So when did you When did you buy in Vidia? When did you buy it? I want the Vida in August? That's just yesterday. Bro Boffett has bought shares for forty years. Yes, and so you bought in augustly getting worried. So the markets is not for a short term, right, What did you hold for a year. I'm not telling you what I's good,

but I'm saying it's not a market where you're buying August. Answer. You just said a trader. So the question for you is this, do you know the price dings ratio for the Vidia? Do you know? Do you know what that number is? I'm just I've been reading, but I don't. Okay, So you need to have data to back up your your condition. If you want to sell, why you're selling when in video sales for in the next quarter. I'm not even saying okay, so I mean, I'm not saying

you should hold bios. I'm saying you want to have a reason, if on the entary reason to sell over by the best predictor of the stock price is future endings. So the question you want to ask is do you think in video's future and it's gonna go up or down, it's gonna go up, Why are you selling it's gonna go down? Okay, So you want to take long term if if you want to short term fixed income, let me get sorry about shirt rag shtrack's shirt rack shirt Drag. Okay, oh bd o bd please high.

Speaker 3

Yes sounding word, thank you, thank you for the opportunity. Yeah. Well, not to take your time, because.

Speaker 9

I think one of the things that I wanted to ask you already answered when you responded to someone you know, I was going to I've been following you for a very long time point your book.

Speaker 3

I've read through that book, you know, but I still wanted.

Speaker 1

To you know, Okay, chapter.

Speaker 6

Now, okay, so.

Speaker 9

Where you talked about equities, you know that chapter where you talked about ecuities and stocks, that was where you know, I concentrated a lot more. But other than that, the other places, you know, you made some really good points as.

Speaker 3

Well, you know.

Speaker 9

And I think one of the things the last questioning you just answered. I was listening to you as I and I'm remembering you know, the place where you really take time and detailed disual prize, any ratios you know on stocks and how to hold what you need to. Yeah, So I think for me, I wanted to ask you someone wanted to coss up with you. How do we go about?

Speaker 1

Easy to send your emails? Send you send me a DM. I was just for free unless it's a big yeah. Sure, And I have guys that I work with. I can send to them, but they're send me something more complicated.

Speaker 3

That's fine, all right, all right, Yeah, thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Welcome, Thanks, thanks for buying the book. Appreciated. Let's get to man more score man.

Speaker 3

Hello, and actually this is my first time on your space following. Yeah, but I've been following you on.

Speaker 13

Twitter for some time.

Speaker 1

Appreciate and I really enjoy what you do.

Speaker 25

So my question is, but I think you already answered it when while you were asking the other guys question, Because during my initial stages of investing in stocks, I really experienced towards the previous speaker.

Speaker 3

Experience whether I was holding some companies for like, you know, a period of time likes is a year, and at the end of the day, I see.

Speaker 26

That I'm down by at least thirty percent and all that, And so my question is, so you've already answered, but it's.

Speaker 27

Still saying, is it better investing.

Speaker 3

In individual stocks or we should just go.

Speaker 2

For the ETFs?

Speaker 3

Like which one do you think is safer and gives lower return?

Speaker 26

Sorry sorry, lower risk and at least reasonable return without risking a lots while investing in them.

Speaker 2

Is the individual stocks or the ETFs?

Speaker 1

So all things being equal, because the ets are a basket of securities, there's more diversification. Look at it this way. If I buy ten strikers and I buy one striker, where is my risk spread out more? Out of the ten, I might have eight flops, but one would be Chef Sheenko. So I've made my you know, I'm okay with that. But if I buy one striker and that striker flops is gone. So it's just that way. An ETF is a basket of securities. So because of that, it is

more specified than just buying the individual stock. That's how we always go for index etears or mutual phones because it dies as a fire. The cheaper price for you. That's the first answer, right, But I can remember the altimate answer is why are you buying? If I work in company A and I see that company is just making so much money, or I see down in Legos and I see a particular let me say, let me look for something like this. I see maybe tomato juice

coming to Nigeria, and everybody is buying tomato juice. People are buying it left, right and center. I find out that the tomato juice is being made by the company in Ubi, also in Bousted from the tomato vegetos in Baudery. I find that the company making tomato juice. What would I do. I want to buy that stock because I know that that comes going to make a lot of money because people are buying that stock in labels. So if I have information, I can buy it because we

just talk directly. But if I want to invest the cheaper way in the way, of course, I'll go with the eat right, that's basically how I'll do it.

Speaker 3

Sense, Yeah, thank you very much for that.

Speaker 28

Sorry, I still have another question now, and it's between the US stock markets and the Nigerian stock market. Okay, because recently, right now, I see that it seems like Nigeria's stock market is really doing really really good, and like, for example, I see something like transport transport going off about plus six hundred this sear from February.

Speaker 3

So would you think, between the US stock.

Speaker 26

Market and the Nigeria stock market right now, which do you think is actually like more profitable right now?

Speaker 2

What?

Speaker 1

The answer is already out there for US if you look at the past ten years, the US stock market has returned more in terms of return on the total stock market in the if you're measuring the ETFs, the US market over the last ten years has had the highest return across the world if you're comparing with US equity, So within Japanese equities, American UK properties, Colombian anything you want to compare with, the American stock market have been

the best performer over a ten year period. So really it goes down to you this as two different markets. If you are buying the US market, you are exposing yourself to dollar returns. If you buy Nigeria Nira returns to the US economy nagen economy is your call. Where do you want to be exposed to? Do you want to be exposed to both? Fine, then you do an allocation that's to be eighty twenty or forty sixty, whatever

I want to do. There is no best in investment everybay, that's even over and over, there's no best in investment. It's you have to invest according to what suits or fit your profile. If you are thinking of moving to America, of course I want to get exposed to America. If you are in Nigerian and America, I think of coming back to Nigeria in say twenty years. Of course you want to invest Nagian equitis. This has to be based on your objectives. But in terms of the actual numbers,

what the numbers tell us today? The US market has beaten the Nigerian market and every other market over the last ten years. Thank you very much for that. Thank you. Let's get nerdy is nerdy z nerd on us call Zenal?

Speaker 2

Yeah, all right, thank you?

Speaker 1

Watch you can watch you the Yeah, yeah, So Elliott.

Speaker 8

Is this year around April right, I think about on wrecking now right, So I just felt like, OK, let me get a stock. So I worked in Tesla, and you have to be honest, I mean about right now, maybe about one hundred and fifty percent returns. So at some point I just felt like I did my come to group and I was just because like I've always tressed to rebuild my imagincy phone.

Speaker 3

Right now I think maybe I have a few I can I want to do this year.

Speaker 8

What I feel like Esla has gone parabolic and maybe just the way for the next talk speed. But I think I've been looking up on to computer stock, maybe stuck around AI. So I just wanted to get what do you think about everything? You think I here to stay going to computing stock and AI as well.

Speaker 2

Just wanted to get your.

Speaker 3

Take on that may really a little little things I can put it a maybe put yeah.

Speaker 1

Man, So you know this, I think when I is the first chance in AI. I just said, it's all these type people doing doing their thing. It's just a new fad. I'm just telling you something, right, AI is going to recognize the entire world. I haven't seen anything that's going to change the world the way AI is going to change the world. You know, and when you hear AI, you think it's some esoteric thing that man. Let me make a point of using myself. You know, I write, I write, so I write. It took me

almost three or four years to write the book. Do you know there are apps that AI that you can take. You can tell the app the name of my book. And they had to write that same book, but just change the name from Carlo to Kenny. Is to do it in five minutes, the entire book. So imagine if you're a company, you do accounting. I know I know a lady in the US she does auditing for medical So when you when you go to the hospital, you

send they send it your bill. She would look at the bill and say, this is this is really not real? Things like that. She went to AI. She works for a company. She went to the AI and wrote an AI program. So when the company gives her the job, it only takes two three days. She takes two three days to do the badge and sent back. She feeds the job to the AI. The AI does that job in five minutes five minutes, so she has three days to do any other job she wants. She does it.

That's what her literally real life story. So imagine if that company finds that as an AI that can do the job they are giving to this girl to do what because I'm going to fire her. What happens that that comy gets more profitable because it would need that girl to do that job for them. So productivity is going to go up. Companies are going to make more money because of AI. Really, it's you know, it's it's you can't even there are banks now in Japan. I

hear that when you apply for a loan. You know, when you're applying for a loan and bank look at your credits, call your debt to income, maybe your US bill. These guys use almost six hundred metrics to see if you're a good lender. They use things like it's your phone always constantly. The big that your phone is constantly, you're a better investor because living your phone fully charged. Are more careful and they're better investors. But no human

being can attractice. So the AI in five seconds can scand on six hundred metrics about you and say yes or no to another application and tell the guys that don't that don't feel like you couldn't get loans to just drop them. So imagine a bank today that is hiring workers in loan department and risk management's going to replace all that from in how you drive your car, the AI can tell if you can pay your loans. It's not it's not science fiction, real life. So what

will happen to many industries? That many just are going to change and you're going to find the winners. You're gonna find a bank will start off today and become bigger than the banks you see today using AI. What's a bank? A bank takes deposits and lends out. But a bank needs to know how much deposit he needs before you can let that up?

Speaker 5

Right?

Speaker 1

What if I have an ear that tells me only take the posits based on loans I want to make it they are only to be as big as any bank today. I can be at one hundred million dollars and make more money than you because my ear is telling me, no, just have this capital and lend to this person you care. We coming, I'm going to know you. So AI is really going to revolutionalize and change what we know today. Use that's why you see that all I hear that Elon Musk bought Twitter to train his air.

The whole reason why he bought Twitter, what's train his you know what? He was an investor in in some outans church, gipating and what's nonprofit? Then he left.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 1

That's so every company from Google to Microsoft in AI. That's why Nvidia is blowing up because they are the building. The chips are going to power all this whole new thinking companies. You know, so they are good users, they are bad users.

Speaker 2

You can do.

Speaker 1

It's gonna change everything. So that means that any company that is exposed to as a winner, the question is matter is what we mean by exposed. If I'm an NVLLA that makes the chips that go to the AI is, oh, I'm fully exposed. If I'm the caterer that sells launch to the company making the chips, oh, I'm gonna make a lot of money. See what I'm going to do. So the trick for you as an investor is to

try to draw your circles. Everybody knows Nvidia, but who supplies in the year bottled water for their staff, Who supplies in VideA the chips that they used to make the chips to make their chips? Who is in that value chain. If you can find the tail foot guys that are making the things that the guys make to make the things that the guys make to supply on VideA, that's your money guy right there, because they are so

far off that nobody knows them. You see when you see a finished company Microsoft, you see them an iPhone and iPhone has many suppliers. You can buy Apple or you can buy the supplier that makes it. The splace that are going to Apple, and that's the planets are going to. Apple is going to be cheap and who I know that guy. So for the investor, you've got to find those those guys in the that are in

this AI speed because they are cheaper. They are mostly small companies that are training out of the n y S or smaller cap company small caps. I want to invest in them. That's basically your that's your money. Roos right there in Vida is is done. What I mean is done. You're gonna make money from the media, but you're gonna buy at the top ten dollars a pop.

You see the point testla ist gone. You're gonna make money from testla but I'm gonna buy that's five hundred the pop. So you want to find the guys supplying the break path of TESTLA. That's why you want to invest them because nobody knows them, so you get them earlier and you ride that wave. But anything AI, anything, and it's a quantum computing you see. Right now America is restarting nuclear plants, small nuclear plant to power quantum computing.

So there's a week company New York being started and all that. So quantum computing now is anything that is that's that's the winner for you. Quantum computed nuclear power AI. Anything that's gonna power this new economy. You want to be there. That's essentially wow, thank you, you want that. So last day someone came up.

Speaker 8

I was thinking about the real for homes right forgment or giving our money. So I went off and at the time, maybe as a younger person, it's really difficult to really think about building the house gets in the land and all that side of it could be with options.

Speaker 1

So I checked.

Speaker 8

I checked the occasions so Nallionaire for their room in natural also, so I was considerable, and I was thinking, sometimes fragments project can be so misty, right, you just have to keep doing so rebaulting again in that maybe house, he just gets a more mortgage for what I just wanted to I know you said you're going to bring them up or something I just wanted to be for a young person. Is something wise and maybe I think logical to go into getting mortgage.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean, I like, so listen, all this philogomen is the risk you take it, right, but the reward is worth the risk. Yeah, asking you that because remember they are politicians, so they want to show success. Yeah, asking you to be five million and get the house, I will do it. If I was in Nigeria and I was young like you, I would do it without thinking what would I lose five million? What if I gain? I get a tribute to the flat if we need.

They don't build that tribunal flat. They give me the house, just the land. And this cacast is still wortered because if I had to go do that myself out to buy the land, get the paperwork, get the cement and build, that's fine. I'll still take it. So I would say, if you're young or you have the connections and you can get that and we need to hope, go and get it. You know what I don't do is still

good to moon. If they come here and if you know them, anyone that knows them and they want to bring them here to talk, please invite them to come. I will give them the exposure. We will talk about it. I will Buying the mortgage or buying a house Niger, it's one good investment because of course it's gonna be inflation for you. If you're going to live in that, You're not worried about inflation because it's your cash that you're paid in rent, right, so you know, worried about

the inflation are gonna bay after that can rise. So buying your primary residence in Nigeria is to me one of the best investment you can do with your cash right now right, So I would say, if you have the means, get it. If you get it, don't think about it. So what can go wrong? They give you a cas for five minute and I think the abuild it to your taste. So that's what I would say.

Speaker 2

Yeah, thank you someone, I'm grateful.

Speaker 1

Welcome, no worries. Let's get Ernie name Ernie on the cyber.

Speaker 6

Good.

Speaker 17

How are you.

Speaker 1

All right? Thank you for the opportunity. Mister.

Speaker 29

Can I have two questions Number one. In two thousand and eight, I bought some shares that is the name Insurance and First Inland.

Speaker 16

At the time when I was telling Nigeria, they were giving me some dividends bogs for a long time.

Speaker 3

I don't know anything about the share again, but I.

Speaker 2

Still have my c S c S number and some of the information regarding.

Speaker 3

The shares, So I don't know how.

Speaker 16

To go about it to you know, recite information about the shaar and maybe probably speak to a broker, but I don't have any information of the broker.

Speaker 3

I used them too, you know, purchase the share.

Speaker 16

That's number one. I don't know the advice you're going to give you your NA. Then the second question is I live in the US, and here in the US, companies have like a four one K retirement savings for their employees. And since I started working with my company, the Nigelia and me have not allowed me to actually invest with four okay, because even though I understand how I to operate another thing. Personally, I decide to save my money with.

Speaker 2

Banks that I have that have like a huge percentage of AP you are a API.

Speaker 16

That way I know I have access to my fund and also I know I can't take it any time I want.

Speaker 1

And I also know that I'm receiving some.

Speaker 16

Benefits from it, like interest every month or something like I do think I'm doing the wrong thing?

Speaker 1

Or do you think I'm not.

Speaker 3

Going the right way?

Speaker 1

Thank you? Yeah?

Speaker 2

Bro?

Speaker 1

Yeah, Bro, you're breaking my heart. You're just doing my space the best time of my space. First time here.

Speaker 16

No, actually, I've been following you and sometimes I joined your space, but I have this my first time I speaking.

Speaker 1

And we'll talk about for any I think I don't know how times I've said about a four one K, I've set it over and over right. If if for one K is what we call a qualified savings you're in America qualified savings account, which means any dollar you're putting there is protected from taxes if you put If you put a dollar in the bank, the bank will charge you interest. You pay to the IRS taxes on interest,

and that's what your ten ninety nine is. So every year, of course, your bank gives you a ten ninety nine, which means you're paying taxes on the money you have in the bank. But in your four oh one K, you do not pay tax on the growth of those assets. So once your bank. You work for a company is in my book. I've said it here. You want to do your four oh one ky it before you even invest, because you want to take an advantage of the one of the salary increase, number two of the match number

three of the tax benefits. So if your company does a fot ah one kid, it's your money. They can't do anything with the money. They can't touch it again. All you have to do is to make sure that you don't buy your company share so you die as a fire. You can do that if your company is giving you a full one key, find out on Monday SAP what the match is, what the bat that match is.

You must look at my world m USD. You must do it and match minimum match when you put in your full one k. America loves you to say where you want a four one kid to go. You can see they're fall one kid and buy the same bank things that you're buying. You can tell the four one ky to buy your CD, but you don't pay tax on the growth of the city. But it's in a full one kid, so you can do exactly what you are doing, but doing it a tax qualified account. You

don't pay taxes. Your largest experts in America, as you know, is your taxes. You can't avoid it, but you canna. You can't defer it with a full one K. So make sure some on money that you ask your hr preson what's the match, and then you sign up for your phone monkey and you do minimum that match. No arguments any good to me. That's number. So just go do it and also a part of your phone key also write this down. An IRA an individual retirement account.

There are two types. There's a traditional there's the wrath ALCOH. I don't know how much you earn. If you end too much money, America will not let you do in a roth IRA. But you also want to do an IRA. IRA simply means an individual for a one key sort of so you also put money there. It also grows taxi thread. You are not taxed till you take it out.

So you also want to do an IRA. Why if you earn ten thousand and you invest one thousand in your traditional IRA, according to the IRS, you only earn nine thousand, so you only pay taxes on nine thousand. So what you can do is this April fifteen, you have to pay taxes are bait when you do do

I know who does your taxes for you? When you do your taxes and the government says earning your's two thousand dollars, why pay the government two dollars when you can write yourself with check and pay to your traditional era or the same two thousand. It's in your name, it's been invested for you. They're not paying taxes. You have still paid that tax, but now you're put in your ira. So Earnie, you do your phone one kid

and you do an ira. Talk to your adviser and see who juge i ira, the ross ira or tradtional ira put your four one kid and what you're doing on Monday. Right, Yes, let's let's get to your second question. Just if you're in Nigeria or you have every Nigeria, just go to d Just show up them, find out who it is online. Just go there yourself. Take to forms of id to, will print out all your dibidats, will print out all your bonds. I give you very

very simplest. Also relist with them for what they called e diibidends. Why you haven't because they're now doing the dividends. So if you have a bank in Nigeria. Just do idibidence so going for just pay your dividends electronically from the which is trustrating your back so you can you can talk to your broker and and I just do it for you. Don't charge you, say he investigator, collect

my shares. Don't do it for you. They will charge you all that So is that you do with your broker or when you're an enjoy you go yourself and do it easy, easy stuff.

Speaker 5

Yeah, okay, thank you so much, perfect perfect, let's get it's a great Outfred of it, great outfit, great outfit going once, great Outfred going twice?

Speaker 1

One?

Speaker 16

What's up?

Speaker 5

One?

Speaker 1

R one four, three, five five? What's wonner? Going once? Come on there you guys. You want to speak, be around right, h background noise, Alfred background, what's up? H Hello, Horry, go ahead, go ahead, horry porryte okay, ah, thank you.

Speaker 4

Yeah my.

Speaker 1

Plan lad, I'm so sorry I can't hear him. Save you a deal. You have tons of background noise, so save you a DM, right, save you a DM. Okay, let's get the profitable man.

Speaker 30

Okay, thank you so much for the importable to be here. I leave follower of yours off your post, and I've been following for so long. So my question is that I've been interesting for so long. I'm still younger and in.

Speaker 2

Gr students, so I've been interesting into.

Speaker 30

It mutual format FGM bound both US and GM markets, and I also have community of a more thousand students and teaching about stock markets and investments generally.

Speaker 31

So my question is that.

Speaker 30

Every time I invest my money, I mean, i'man kind of a valuing in Frester that I invest for a very long time. But it is sometimes, you know, major stock market is like it's like a psychlic. I don't know how to call it, like it's a circle market circle. There are times that I made probably for maybe five hundred percent profits like ORANDU and make over one hundred percent.

Speaker 2

Profits like out there and transcovers my problems.

Speaker 30

I don't know where to take profits, like, I don't know, okay, this is the right time to take profit out of the market and then put it in another market. So I don't know if you have any advice for me when to take profit and then you know, to before he markets done over again.

Speaker 1

So so so just to be clear, you are trading, You're you are trading, right.

Speaker 3

I'm not trading.

Speaker 2

I'm in festal, I'm not trading.

Speaker 1

So you're a long term guy, yes, yes, So what are you selling?

Speaker 5

You know?

Speaker 1

You know you know you can't, I can't just know.

Speaker 2

What I'm thinking is that it can just be dedfuever.

Speaker 1

Why not?

Speaker 2

Why not?

Speaker 1

Find not?

Speaker 2

I think it's good to eat the fruit of your livers of times.

Speaker 1

What you said, you said you're a long tail investor, Yes, yes, I mean so. The point is that if it's making money for you, what are you selling it? If drug by scoring goals, what are you selling him? M I don't get So let's answer your question. You you you, you determine the point. You can say, for instance, if I do percent, I want to sell, you can say that, right, it's your call. You can say if my stock's three

twenty five percent return on capital, I would sell. You can decide that I don't think the good strategy for you. I think equities make more money for you when you allow them to compound. You reinvested ditas because you are in long term investor. That's what I think. But if you want to sell, the mini criter for selling, you can say, okay, my return is x once it is X, I will get out. But the question becomes, you get out and do what you know, get out and buy what.

That's the question now for you, right if you, if you sell, and if you are sold in Vidia at one hundred dollars, and then buy what. Now you've lost the Vidio was a good stock, you saw one hundred dollars, You've made a lot of profit. Then buy what what you have brought to them because in Vidia. So that's you know, That's what I will say. You can say thirty five, you can say fifty. Whatever you put there. If that's your call as well as you that's your strategy.

It's not a bad strategy. But I will say overall or long term. If I'm an investor, why am I selling? If I buy a good company at a good practic, If I buy Messy when MESSI is twelve years old, why am I selling him? Why? I can eat the foot up a little by selling message to Chelsea, But why am I selling him? What doesn't make it? If I don't sell Messy, I won't die? So why am I selling him? Is a good guy? Why selling is the point I'm making?

Speaker 2

Yes, I'm getting you, sir, all right?

Speaker 1

Do you have a full up question?

Speaker 6

Sir?

Speaker 2

Okay, thank you sir.

Speaker 30

Another person I want to ask is that the Nadia stock market, Like what do you see in the future of Nadia stock market? Because I see some people are discussing about like the devaluation of theres going to a fetish stock market, like when people putting their money in the stock market, Like in the long grown, when we are selling, our selling give value devalue, there will be really much profit and the money wanted really have good value before then.

Speaker 2

So what do you think about that?

Speaker 1

What does evaluation mean? What devolution means? It means that the exchange I hear you. So I'm just so if you the value means that one there I will now sort of blues value to a dollar big so it affects. Then then idea economy because when important and the economy and all that I hear you make sense, I hear you. So what then do you do? You diversify? Right, you can say I want to buy dollar exposed equities or exposed crisis. You can build a portfolio that housputs of them.

That's the point I'm trying to get to. What you must do is to keep on investing. Why dollar investments are so perperlan a drive to day is because profully and n RROR is going to be devalued. So you hedge. You hege by by using those apps to maybe expose yourself to dollar investments. That's what you want to do. You can see, okay, before I was doing fifty fifty, do something. That's what you can do. But the idea is always be DIVERSI five far away from one currency,

one country, one commodity. Always stay dire as a five. So that answers your question. You don't have to stay in one place, you know, you move around and you rotate your portfolio to fit the economic theme.

Speaker 5

You know.

Speaker 1

That's how I put that. Remember, even with the dovastification, the banks are still making a lot of money Nigeria. I'm not any bank and in any US bank or even the oil company in Nigeria do it better than the US oil company. If you take the index, the the oil company in Nigeria in the NSC is almost sixty percent out in the banks. I don't think the

oil company in America is the same. But I hear you overall for the index America coming to Nigeria that as the fire have a mixture, so that way you're not caught up in just one.

Speaker 5

That's how I'm paid for you. Thanks probably yeah, okay, all.

Speaker 1

What you do? It's busy. Let me get prince, prince what you mean? Yeah, I can hear you answer.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much for having me, so I'll be coming very a while and thank you for all you do. I just ask your questions.

Speaker 31

I'm a businessman bused in enjoy an enterpinion, and I have a I have a startup like yourself business and I within the empty space. So I want to ask a decituation of taking enjoy the moment. We're having some challenges with them, and so I've been looking at options that my disposable as say that's the funding, so I'm.

Speaker 2

Looking at.

Speaker 31

Better denouncing of no, some of them are discussing my assets for the funding.

Speaker 3

So I just want to ask if.

Speaker 31

I want to ask we should you wish you use your advice is the best option and it's the best course for me that will not really jopadize business and be the startup. Then the second question is regarding I want to also ask if because I know you've been talking more about the investment in and God and the like. So I want to I have more interest in the crypto trading, so I want to ask if it's also a good part one for investing.

Speaker 1

Now, okay, yeah, two good questions. Like your first question is very very easy to to sort of respond to. So if you're a startup, or if you want to start a business, or if you are still in what we call the growth stage, you shouldn't take a bank loan. You shouldn't take a bank loan. A bank loan or any loan that you pay interest doesn't have to be a bank loan. Any loan that you pay interest on is only to be used for walking capital, not to

start a business, not to fund the business. Let me explain. So, if your startup needs to buy maybe an open or a new truck, you don't want to take a bank loan to do that. But let's say your company gets an order to supply x amount of goods to a company Y and company why will pay you next month? So you need cash to do that supply the body will pay you. Yes, you go to the bank that's working capital. You borrow money from the bank, You fund

the supply you supply to company. Why company? Why pays you? You pay back the bank? You don't want to use bank money apart from working capital. I would even say paying salaries no. Why because if you start to pay, if you take a bank, no, you are working for the bank and bank most Nigeria are very expensive, more than twenty five percent. You can't survive with that. So for a startup, I think I shared if you look at if you're not to search on Twitter shared how

to fund the business. I put various company growth stages and I put the types of funding you need. If you can search on my Twitter video see it there. If you're a startup, you're looking at family and friends, equity and like you said, sender your assets to fund. You're looking for any sort of funding that does not involve interest. That's basically how you want to put it. If it means partnership, If it means give me money to invest in my business and I share profit to you,

you know all that, it's perfectly fine. What you want to avoid is taking a pain interest that I want you to avoid. It's better you keep your company and cover it up till when interest rates go down it remains your company. Then you take a loan that the bank now owns your company, it's not worth it, right, So keep that in mind. It's family and friends, equity, maybe supplier finance, whatever finance you want to do, but not anything you're going to pay somebody interest, fixed interest

on not don't do that. Yeah, cooperative, all those things are good because they are lower interest rates. So you can take loan from cooperative and all that, but not commercial bank loans. Right, Okay, you know the second question, second question on crypto. Crypto is fine, you know, like I said, no investment is good or bad. The question is how much what you're objective? So what if your objective is want to build a portfolio, that's fine, you can do crypto, but I would not advise you to

do more than ten percent. And I would say that any money you put on crypto should be money you are prepared to lose, because the better of fertility investment. So if you know from the start that if I put money in crypto, I can lose it, how much can you lose? That's how much you should invest in crypto. If you think you are but you are, you can lose ten percent of your income and be okay with it. Sure, do ten percent. If you think only one percent shot

one percent. It's not good or bad. But because it's risky, you want to do risk mondment and silky how much do I think I can lose? And then you can get away from it the other ways you can do kiptop of me investment. Just stick in a bit. You can buy bitcoin and you can stake it. I'm not sure it still pays out a lot of money, but that's how I would look at these things for now, till the new and Men in America comes, then will have a clear sense of where crip is going to

go to and all that. But it's a risky portfolio. It's investment. I don't recommend any investment. I recommend investment acquorant to your objectives. That's the point I try to me. So if you if you flow that rational, you can go wrong with that.

Speaker 3

Yeah, thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Okay, welcome wrong. Yeah. So I'm hearing sing on the on the comment session class saying I right, put Rise investment, Rise, but shacka. So we are doing shocker. That is right, So Rise I think it bout shaker. So if you're didn't shaker that Rise Investments and I'm also putting the apps the blasting after invest. No, that's I'm only putting the apps that you can use to invest a broad Your normal stockbroking firms all have a sex license. So your Merry Stems, your afree Invest, your Ibet, c r

At Stevens, all the stockbrokers, they all have license. So that's not talking about the apps, right, So they're all really really good. Yeah, perfect, Prince Jim.

Speaker 3

I just want to be Prince. I have been listening to your following for quite a while.

Speaker 28

I want to appreciate you for your analysis and how you've been giving us some cold cold, particular financial tips.

Speaker 1

Hel appreciate you.

Speaker 3

And lastly, I want to just ask from my booking to the pocket minds, if it to be helpful to grow somewhere, I'm ready to be gone.

Speaker 1

That's what I'm just asking.

Speaker 3

What can a millionaire investments? Or can I put him a million investment into?

Speaker 27

I can?

Speaker 1

I can't answer that question. That's ask me to tell you where to invest. I can answer that question. All I will tell you is that you need to go back to what I've said right. What is your objective? Is it short term?

Speaker 15

Is it long term?

Speaker 1

Do you want to risk your capital? Are either an appreciation of the capital or do you basically want to protect the capital? Do you need liquidity? All these questions, the answers you give would tell me where you can invest at the moment, Like we did the percips with the guy that just joined. How long do you want your money for? If it's not to tell me how my money next year, we're not gonna be talking about equities.

We're going to have only about fixed income. Right if you say, oh, this is money that I need for my retirement and is in ten years, ah, we're talking about equities and all that kind of stuff. So because I don't know you what I mean, I don't know you. I haven't done a risk analysis, I haven't done an investment objective with you. On you, I can't tell you where to invest a million? What I continues with you.

Listen to this tape, last week's tape. Pull off the tap that says, one, how I can invest a million? That's a second most downloaded space level. How can I invest a million? I shall on the Twitter handle today. Sorry yesterday I said you go through yesterday. Today you find out Twitter handle to post them in If you listen to that space, you will hear a lot about how you should approach invest in. You invest according to

your objectives. If you need this money back in one year, you don't invest in certain investments even though they're going to pay you more. That's the answer for you. So you want to invest according to your objectives, not that according to the returns. So if it's paying you more returns but it does not meet your objectives, you can't invest in it. Does that make sense? Okay?

Speaker 9

Perfect, I got you.

Speaker 1

Let's get Mariah Moriah Moriah.

Speaker 24

I'm there.

Speaker 1

I mean, yeah, I can hear you faintly, but I can hear you. What's up?

Speaker 17

Okay, I'm trying to final so much of people haven't been here. So my question, my question is, you know, his hum is about I and about it and about how he had went to localize, you know, the.

Speaker 1

Entire financial affect and.

Speaker 17

For someone who you know, I actually I'm kind of like I'm actually in the financial sector. Sarvist financial analyst, you know, say so, I'm sometimes I'm really really scared about you know, all this grubo analysts, grobo analyst, robo.

Speaker 1

Ei that is actually coming up. So I'm really said about.

Speaker 17

You know, the picture of financial anally and where it's going. So I don't want to you know, you know about it's actually worth chewing or give you you know, actually was going in because it ain't a younger who is going through you know that occupation, it is really worth going into.

Speaker 1

So I think about the analysts like the CFE something like that.

Speaker 17

Yeah, yes exactly, because I was also planning on writing the.

Speaker 2

Start out with fact and.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I would say you can't go you can't go wrong with us. But what I was going to give you it's still a machine. It's still a machine. Investors still want a human to hold your hand. And when you call a company, you talked to robots or if you want to talk to to robots be telling you or do this, do that, but you still want talk to a human. So even though I know the AI or the robots can help me, there are lots of AI investment companies today that are just driven by AI alone.

You don't talk to a human, but people, the market for a human advisor will never go away. And when you're talking about what's going to happen, is that the CFAs, the cfps are going to be the one that would now arise in importance, not the quote and quote every day analyst. So if you're just a banker, if they're just a normal investment advisor, you are going to lose your job in next play twenty five years because the AI and the computer will take about what you can do.

But if you have an skill or accessibility like like CFA, CFPCCP, I can you are adding value, not just intelligence on how to pick stocks, but that human touch, emotional intelligence that you can explain to someone why they should sell their stocks and buy those that stock even though their wife or their son like that stock. So that part of the market is not going to go away. And I would say that a CFA is an international license for you. If you get the CFA today, you can

walk anywhere. So I would get it if I mean, if you can get that, I will get it yesterday, right. I wouldn't worry about the CD machines coming through yet. I mean that's a worldwide mis in demand worldwide, so I would say don't worry about it for now. Anything that does not involves one plus one is it goes to two, is in trouble. But anything that involves described why two is one plus one is going to win? Does that makes sense for you? Okay?

Speaker 2

Thanks you that.

Speaker 1

Okay, perfect perfect man? Good luck and good luck that Jamil, Jamil, little hamster. How are you doing, sir Jamlin? What's up? Can you hear me? All right, let's get let's get Julian, Julian and what'sop man?

Speaker 2

I have believing or good after the morning. Wherever we are, it's good to hear your voice again. This is my third space.

Speaker 1

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah cool. Okay.

Speaker 2

First of all, I finally got the book, and I finally.

Speaker 3

Got your book in Nigeria.

Speaker 17

Uh yeah, and I got it from Ruben Heights, just as you said I would.

Speaker 32

So my question today is just I had the last space I was on, I heard someone speak about.

Speaker 3

Being able to open and maybe stop booking.

Speaker 32

Accounts in Canada so you can have direct direct access to the US market, start going through shows and shatters, which have a lot of fees in between.

Speaker 3

Do we have any provisions how to go about that? And what about that?

Speaker 2

That's my first question and my second question does not what last person spoke about?

Speaker 1

How effective or how.

Speaker 2

Best can someone us all these pinch think tech.

Speaker 32

Or AI power financial sites, something like pinch a I, what's will be the best advice you kill?

Speaker 1

And my last questions?

Speaker 3

I think I will have three questions. I recommended financial.

Speaker 32

Advisor in Nigeria who could help with the financial terrain and that's good and knowledge about the space in Nigeria.

Speaker 1

Thank you. So then I have how best to use m A I and think I have recommend financial advice. What's the first one? Again? It was okay, the Canada, Canada, the Canadian one? So the Canadia one, I mean we shared the link. I wish I shared the it's I forget the name. It's based on the other space. I think I pulled it up when she was speaking at the last space. I think it's legit. I looked at

them to a license. If you can get registered with them, possibly, she said, it's lower costs, but they do a lot of KYC on you. It's worth trying. I haven't tried them all, I said were registered in Canada, So if it's all, can try them out? Possibly, right, I'm not say anything wrong with that. How the best way to use this AAR and F you know, I am very jealous that in the year too before distance came out.

When I said to invest, it wasn't the more possible to use AI or your phone to buy Nigerian stocks. When I said to invest in Nigerian stocks, they were not online. It was all paper driven. When you buy a stock, you get the certer tickets. That's when I started to invest. But now a kid sitting in Kuira State can go on his phone, put Nyra on his phone and buy Tesla stock. It's amazing, and the kids

are complaining. You know, the kids are complaining. So I think it's the best way to use them is strateured to use them. I think there's a lot of issue about it costs a lot. Of course, it costs a lot because you're buying from Nira. If you have dollar, doesn't cost anything because you're buying from dollar, right question, buying from Nira, of course it's gonna cost you a lot. So yeah, I think I lost the space. Yeah, sorry, I think I lost I think I got kicked out

of my own space. I got I gotta put, I gotta mix some one of the joints. I just yeah, yeah, Julian, Julian, They're gonna be a so sorry because I got kicked out let's go back in here, all right, So essentially right, so use it. If you're a guy in Nigeria, is an option for you. So essentially what you now have is that you have the opportunity to invest across the world. Take advantage of that opportunity. You know, don't complain and say it's expensive. It's expensive because it's in NIRA. I

get it. But what's the option you invest only in Ira?

Speaker 2

Right?

Speaker 1

You have apps that allows you to buy any product you can buy Tesla, Microsoft across the world. So yeah, I would say it's worth the cost. That's how But because if you look at the cost of your exchange rate compared to the cost of the Bindis shares, the bandishes are still cheaper. So I would say good for that. On recommending your personal advice. So the problem is that we don't have cfps in Nigeria. We don't have that sort of designation. We have stock broken as we have bankers.

We don't have like have an America where you can go and so one can do a plan for you. They are people that can do that plan for you, whether like a banker or talk broker. I don't know how much you want to spend on them money Africa, Shaddy two of them. They do a pretty good job if you got me, if you go see them. I don't know what you want to do specifically, if you if it's what do you want to do this? If you want to get a plan, I want to invest with exactly with that guy, No, I will I want

to plan. Of course, I plan ocean.

Speaker 32

So I want to start having a financial plan for the next five years to invest and grow grow my my, my, my, my assets and have some tangible assets.

Speaker 1

That I can I think, I think, I think you can get that in America and just tell them the variables in Niger and they can do that plan for it because all they need right is your inflation rate you're expected like your rit of growth of the currency. We want to attack things like that, but I think they will struggle a bit, but they will give you an so like a framework more less because they can tell you, okay, then you're just gonna grow to five percent.

So when it discounted, men, it's gonna be it's gonna be a lot. Because the way the way this match cautos work is that there's a discounting number and I don't think there's those things are designed for Nigeria. Nigeria numbers because when I do discounting here, we're doing five four percent. If you go tell them that you have a risk claim Nigeria is twenty nine percent. What that means that when they want to invest for your pension, they have to discount by twenty five percent. We miss

in in in four years. They've discounted your principle.

Speaker 12

That's what it means.

Speaker 1

So yeah, so but then they have to also grow it. There's also the official but I don't believe that that just can work with that. But why don't you let me let me see what you want to do, D and me and then we'll take it from there. Yeah, that's cool. Thank you, all right, you good man, mister Carl. How are you doing?

Speaker 17

Thank you very much for you know, you know that you.

Speaker 3

Share on this platform. I mean just just specifically say, I mean that's one of those did you you had his pace like this?

Speaker 28

I mean talking about an investment platform that I just let me try and yeah, I then.

Speaker 2

Some good money, sir.

Speaker 1

When people get.

Speaker 3

Stuff like that, you'll come back and say thank you.

Speaker 1

So when you say, are you gonna say thank you? With mouth. You won't send me anything any.

Speaker 23

When I when when, when I have the opportunity to to specifically do that, I would do that.

Speaker 1

I mean I know what I got, so yeah, definitely, I mean it's not that. Yeah.

Speaker 2

So I I buy stocks with Bamboo and True.

Speaker 3

Boots, nag stocks and US. But there's something that I saw those two stocks.

Speaker 1

If you go there, you'll find out that for these stocks of the same company, the lables.

Speaker 3

In their prizes, it's not the same thing.

Speaker 1

And so specifically, have some maybe market sens.

Speaker 2

To the information.

Speaker 1

I made some uh, I got some stocks, and I then found out that on one of the platforms, the stocks moved on the platform. This is was technique interesting.

Speaker 2

So I I on the on the platform that moved I actually saw.

Speaker 1

I just kept it for like one and a half.

Speaker 2

Months, and I got some good appreciations and I showed the talk.

Speaker 1

So you said the other platform, just you are saying that like the same stock one or one platform had gone up in price on the that plot and it was fasting price. The price had immoved.

Speaker 17

Yeah, it didn't move.

Speaker 14

Impact.

Speaker 33

In fact, on one of the platforms the movement was almost like fifteen.

Speaker 3

Percent and it did move on this platform.

Speaker 1

In fact, I treated at them and I said, guys, what's happening here?

Speaker 3

These talks moved on.

Speaker 1

This on the platform.

Speaker 17

Yeah, it was just that it didn't move. I do guys.

Speaker 1

What did they say is it's not market reglecting.

Speaker 8

You know what?

Speaker 1

What did they say?

Speaker 3

I don't before it is fun?

Speaker 1

Wow, you said, I've taken a screenshot and reported them to the nydra stock astume just take a screen shot, because really did All they do is just like a television. Your TV does not generate images, it's it's relaying images from someone else, right, So imagine if my TV is showing me, your TV is showing you Chelsea. Doesn't make any sense from the same stadium. Right, So you said that, I'm sure it was the technical applage, which means that I could do an abbit. I could have bought and

sold on between platforms that making lots of money. It's not impossible. That was you're saying. So if I think it's really taking the screenshot and held them into account, because that's what it means, I can buy on the one that didn't move and sell to the one that moved and make a lot of money. That's the problem. So yeah, that's that's that's very unportunity.

Speaker 34

Yeah, okay, So I mean I just I saw it, and I mean it was it was a bit concerning because on the platform that didn't move, I bought almost.

Speaker 17

Like times five.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and the platform that move that was like I bought like twenty percent on the platform.

Speaker 18

That move, I got like times fried on the platform that they moved.

Speaker 5

So well, you are the one that, like I said, you took you took advantage of it. You took advantage of it.

Speaker 1

It is the loss because essentially what's going to happen when they place your order in the stock market, They're going to pay the real price. So you made money off there. Yeah yeah when they go to buy. And I'm surprised they didn't they didn't come back to you, because that shows poor risk management on their part because when they trade, they will see the difference because they are you just made it happy charge of them. Yeah. So I got so.

Speaker 33

I I know that as I've been having this conversation, nobody has that. And usually what I do is are really by almost the same stocks on those two different platforms.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean almost similar stocks.

Speaker 10

But most times I have I have stocks from both platforms from the same company.

Speaker 2

Sometimes I can decide to.

Speaker 1

Yees, yeah, that's that's why we we will do all that.

Speaker 3

If what I experienced it didn't take.

Speaker 1

That's crazy picture. Ye sorry about Okay, guys, we'll be here about two hours. Testimutes were in the end of year. If you have shared the checklist with you guys on what you want to get done, Investing is not just Iran Cobe is also making sure you dog your eyes and your teas, your next of kids, your estate plans and all that. So make sure you guys do that. Don't just don't look at investing n Iran Cobo. Make sure you also clean out. You have your ship, does

you've gone to your brokers. You've got to your dividends for the year. Get all that done this year, so next year you have queen books. You are starting off fresh and all that right. Jamilu hi hi Jermalo hamster and what's up? Jamilo calls you twice now, so let's go to Okay at del Wally, Okay at de Walley Investor finance. Too much knowledge int in nearly enough for me? Okay what I but let me ask you a few questions here on the timeline. Someone is asking about if

I use international those stocks to get to train in nationally. Well, I get this CSCs number, so let me explain that. We explained this last week. Sorry. When you want to buy stocks in Nigeria, you can buy stocks without the CSS, right, But the CSS is where you want to settle. You want to take your your your stocks to and settle CSCs. It's like your post office box. You buy stocks, then you can put it to your CSCs. If you use those training apps, they have their own CSOs that they

can use to buy and self for you. This is why they open up their own When you want to buy and sell, they can buy and sell from their box to the next person. So it's easier for you. Right, But if you do yours, you have to take it from your CSCs give it to them to buy and sell. So it's your call. You can use THEIRS or you can keep your I'm just seeing that President jimmykath has just passed at the age of one hundred rest in pi Okay. I believe, Yeah, I believe.

Speaker 2

Thanks for the knowledge.

Speaker 27

Yeah, that does take clarification, So I'm someone that likes to buy a US stuff. So when I'm pretty long time, maybe fifteen years at minimum.

Speaker 2

So presently I've been trying to force whateverywhere you have.

Speaker 3

If there is a way so that it can be in Nigeria, I have.

Speaker 2

It broken in US because of nagurant situation. You know, when you're.

Speaker 27

Thinking long you have to put something into consideration. No, because sometimes you can't describe pica about Nigerian Nigerian financial whatever.

Speaker 2

Naguran to me, I don't put too much.

Speaker 3

Trust in them.

Speaker 2

So when you're looking at a long time, many things can happen.

Speaker 8

Talking about fifteen twenty time intivation.

Speaker 35

Whatever you're planning to do it stop, give your stock and it's talk to you like during the last yea many years and I'm putting in a place in case to fight the future of what today. I want to ask if there is anyway someone can get us broker because to me, I believe there is a discipline the integrating.

Speaker 9

Those areas.

Speaker 27

So this is what I'm looking at, is there is there any way someone can get a broken from doing and you start trading from like during No, I think.

Speaker 1

It's two ways. It depends if you have a social Security number. If you have the social security number, yes you can get the US broker. If you don't have a social secuting number, you have to use those apps because those apps are using a broker in the US. That's basically what they are doing. So it is that basically how you are registered. More or less if you don't have a social from the UK and US, the same.

Speaker 3

Thing named you.

Speaker 2

I'm president with the normal intech.

Speaker 1

So you can only do the bamboos, the shakas and the cal wise. Yes, that's what I'm looking at.

Speaker 2

The amount of looking at the future is what you know.

Speaker 3

Until you can look like.

Speaker 1

Okay, okay, okay, okay, I've answered right. If you can't get it, you can't use a broke up because you have a social you can ask your Nigerian fintech have to open up a CS for yous for you. In America, you can still do that one. But remember when they do that for you, if you want to sell that share, you have to go and look for someone that will take it from your account, put it in the account.

Speaker 9

And sell it.

Speaker 1

So it's more if if you many money tomorrow, you can get it tomorrow because you have to first of all, transfer it to the broker. And because it's a small amount of mental answer. But without a social you can't have an account in your name.

Speaker 3

We're talking about walking out by.

Speaker 1

It doesn't matter how much. If you don't have a social you can't open up a stop broken account in your name in the US. You're very welcome to all right, let's get more funable, Oh mister, yeah, well so please?

Speaker 3

Also, uh, is there up for day treading in ninety four US stops?

Speaker 2

Not?

Speaker 1

No, you can't do the treading. Don't let you do because the needs you need to help you need to be credited or something like that. So it's really hard for you to be day treading even if you can. The volume, the your internet speed here not allow you. So because you are training in milliseconds and lots of currencies, a lot of volume, So I don't think so yeah, okay, thank you, thanks cyber.

Speaker 3

Hi you good giving everyone.

Speaker 11

Yes, So man is on amy recent graduates, right, and I'm currently a radiography in turn, so.

Speaker 18

I kind of like a sorry coming in for now for like a specified period of time. Okay, So I'm have a few questions as regarding the stock matches both the US stock markets and the Andrean stock markets.

Speaker 2

Okay, so also yes, I'm doing well, thank you.

Speaker 1

I didn't get apart.

Speaker 12

So then the first question is say you maybe get salary three hundred k two whatever and the professional Okay, I'm going to take twenty percent and invested in.

Speaker 1

The store Markelets for example.

Speaker 12

So for example, say you have physic ke and the fist small whether you say you have a physic key right for your.

Speaker 1

Whole investment at all?

Speaker 3

Like in the stock markets, how would you use.

Speaker 12

Place it into the US stocks and into Nigerian stocks? That's one now concerning the US stock market trait. Now knowing that we have ETAs you know, we have good funds.

Speaker 1

Or good stores. I lost today, can you hear.

Speaker 2

No? I thank you lot too?

Speaker 1

Okay, given a few says, can it doesn't come? Then just answer the question she asked because I can't hear her, cyber man, if you can hear me, I can hear you. You want to if I want to drop off and hop back in again, okay, let me get us. We're gondn't hear you dropped off? Is it possible?

Speaker 2

You you?

Speaker 1

I got the first question? Can you ask the second question again?

Speaker 2

Okay, I'm not audible.

Speaker 1

Can you hear me? I can the second question I didn't hear at all. Can you ask it again? The second question? I'm going to go now, Yes you are, Yeah, I can hear you say your second question? Can you ask again? Okay? Can you hear me? Cyber? Hello?

Speaker 2

I think so.

Speaker 1

I won't answer till to I know she can hear me. She can hear her answer. Let me try to get are you able to speak? Well, we've got about fifteen this more or shut down before the only because he hears the answer. But are you ready to speak? Sir? When I going on? He's here but doesn't want to speak. Let me drop drop him so that way we don't wait for him. Perfect Cyber is requesting to speaking.

Speaker 3

I have added you back, Cyber.

Speaker 1

Can you hear me? She's back on to speak. I'm not sure she can hear him. Can you hear me, ma'am? Can you hear me? Okay, let's let's move on. Let me see all right, so good time to look at the spend about the c s ES. If you get a c s S in America, you can do that, but it it became more difficult to sell instantly or otherwise. Also the same with Nigeria educational cess. It's safer you keep on your stock here, but does what makes it difficult for to sell or with ease or with efficiency

if you use theirs. Let's see most of it. Someone's asking, can you talk about the gold market? Yeah, if it can be a bit more, if you can clarify what you buy a gold market. I'm talking about buying gold itself as a security, as an actual goal bard or buying goals certificates. There are many ways I can invest in goal, but goal itself as an investment seen as a hedge, what means it would pay you any returns?

It's just a hedge against for the asset prices. And one goal has been good up in price or recent because the Chinese and the Russians that bind a lot of gold because of the sanctions against them. So I'm not sure if you'll stop buying. But also to be that investment where you want to buy or have a little bit off in your portfolio and that doesn't pay you anything, just like it's like a defense against inflation.

Keep that so keep that in mind. Cyber, you asked a great question outside I'm not sure if you can.

Speaker 13

Hear me, yes, I can hear you know.

Speaker 1

I'm sorry, not the problem I got the first question. What's the second question?

Speaker 3

Okay?

Speaker 1

The second question?

Speaker 12

Okay, the second question is do they say you already have splittered the money into.

Speaker 2

For the US stock markets and twenty nine stock markets and.

Speaker 3

Then the use of markets?

Speaker 13

According to my I need to knowledge it's more than advance, right, its great stocks and give you sto and rest of all, what percentage of the money would you push into these different sectors or these different stocks? Right?

Speaker 12

And what range of iteas would you look at first?

Speaker 3

For someone in the spence?

Speaker 1

Yes, okay, let's let's let's use you as a case study if you don't mind, right, So, so the good questions you want you you want to you have about three the key you want to invest twenty I have like sixty k for example as a one, two, three, four, five? Okay, fifty k, right, that's the total amount you want to invest? Correct?

Speaker 35

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Okay? And then you want to do twenty percent? No, fifty k?

Speaker 22

Is it?

Speaker 1

Is it? Okay?

Speaker 8

Fifty k?

Speaker 1

But what investor?

Speaker 2

Right?

Speaker 1

You want to do a split? And you go about twenty something years, right, So obviously we're looking at the long term. You need liquidity in the next ten, liquidity in time soon.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, I'm thinking ten, five, twenty.

Speaker 1

I don't know how.

Speaker 12

I'm not Harry, I got you.

Speaker 1

So, I mean, if I was twenty years old, twenty five years old, I have to invest fifty K. I would just buy the the cheapest investment, like Alad with that as a five food for my career, go to the US. The cheapest equity investment allows to death as five. Because you've said you have a long term horizon, you said you are, okay, we don't need liquidity. What about your your your own risk the market crashes two years time, do you want your money back or can you waste

the next eight years to get the money back? Okay?

Speaker 12

So that's that's something simile. I was going to litter in my third year and that's fairing.

Speaker 1

So I got Tesler.

Speaker 12

I got tested there at three twenty something. I think my procories had to do at around August, there was a stock really stock split three issue one and test I felt as well as the one hundred and nine. Okay, this month is the first time that the fraction of shares I bought us adnly do as it. So I'm really not bothered because my versions are the ready shattered mimuss have been shattered already. So yeah, I wanted to

get into maybe like automatic saving automatic interesting. So in things like this, when the market goes down very high without emotion attached and still profit it.

Speaker 1

Okay, what what would you say if I told you that when the stock for Tesla was split, the share price didn't actually go down because they gave you more shares, So you just adjust to the stock price. Then I want to make you feel better.

Speaker 2

It's too bad.

Speaker 1

Because you got more shares when they do a stock split. Right, if you have one If you have a share, that is what's ten nira and it's training twenty for tennira. So you have a stock price right training for ten narraw. You have one share? If I do it one for one split, right, I give you another share, so you now have two shares. But the stock price can't be ten narra. The stock prices become five narra, So you now have two shares. What five narra each make it

the same ten nra? Does? That makes sense? So when Tesla skars the shares you lose one. It has see because when they you they when they touched their capitalization, that's when the share price came down. It's not like it lost because of the market movement. I just want to make that point to you, right, So let's combacky, right, So I have a long time horizon, my risk capitite allow me to take hits on my principle because my principal will recover and I don't need liquidity, I would

go into the equities market, right. I will try to get the cheapest way I canify in the equity markets, say the US and Nigeria. The only way I can do this is to buy either a mutual phone or ETF on index fund. So I'm buying a neutral fund or an ETF that invests in the index. Right, the index is already there. I just want to buy that indexes that I do it through the neutral fund or

try an ETF. I can use an ETIF front and an exchange the fund, so I can buy, for instance, in America, Like I said, if I do the VT I right, that buys four thousand and five and or so shares in the US market, I'm exposed to forty five hundred shares in the US market of biblos. But just buy the vt I ETF. Why am I just in VTR. It's from Vanguard. They are very big, so their cost purchases very very low. I mean I can't actually give you the cost I put on vt I

a few minutes ago. If I look at vt I, let me see if I can just just I can google VTR if you do the same thing. If you put vt I on Google, it would show you the VTI stalking index. So I'm looking for the cost per share right on all around the buy with DIVIDNTU give me, I'll get it for I don't to keep it here. So if I buy vt I, right, I'm able to get us explosion. What about Nigeria. For Nigeria we also have.

Speaker 35

So I have bt I here.

Speaker 1

The expense for for BTR is zero point zero three. That means they only take three dollars for every hundred dollars that I buy. That's that's very bit cheap. Only three dollars fore hundred dollars that I buy all the Nigeria gays would add their own with. But that's good for you, right for that sour, So I would do if I was now in Nigeria now right, I would do more than sixty percent in the Yugo's BTA. I would maybe sixty or seventy percent in US maybe because

I want to get exposure. I don't want to raisk by naira. How would I invest in naira apportion? This is not a bit different. Nigeria has got ETFs, but I might not buy the ETF directly Nigeria. I might buy the mutual fund. So they have the mutual fonts in Nigera that buy equities, so there's ibt C. I reinvested marriage term. I want to buy one of those stock broken them that have those equity unit trust Nigaillcondomy

Unit Trust America will Codomy Mutral Fonds. I want to get exposure to those guys, So I buy the Naja Mutral Phone America. I buy the ETF that both invest in equities. I want to buy them they were in America. I want to reinvest my dividens one hundred percent, so I tend to do what's called a drip drip dividend reinvestment plans. So everything then I make just put it back into the investment and buy me more shares, Simil nice. You are from the jam, don't have a drip, so

you have to do it manually. When they give you your shares, you take it back to them and you just buy more shares. If I have a sort of investment, right, it's a very very high risk investment. I can lose all my money because it's one hundred percent in equities. But it's exposing me to the largest most liquid market in the world, the US market. So I have a nice and have a US I will do seventy thirty. That's how I think. I will state it's even eighty twenty.

I will invest my dividends and I'll forget about it for the next ten years and I'll see what happens.

Speaker 11

Okay, So nothing on single stocks, nothing, No, Because you have fifty k, what's finished, fifty k in dollars.

Speaker 1

If I do, let's do it. Buy fifty thousand divided by let's use sixteen hundred, sixteen hundred in dollars. That's testy one dollars. You can't buy Tesla turty one dollars, but you can buy the ETF that buys Tesla for twenty five dollars. You see where I'm going to. You can't afford stock, so you want to buy the You don't want to buy the ets. You see, your greatest one is time. You are younger, So every time you compound,

you are making more money than me. I I am already older, so I man, if I buy the same stock you're gonna buy, you have more compounding pupuios than I do. Markets are gonna go up. They're gonna calm down, but over the long term they're going to go up. If you put the US market from eighteen hundred to today, you see going up, down, updown, updown, but the trend is up. So you want to be in that market. As a younger person, you want to buy any better.

They don't just leave it there, right, And I'm gonna share the VTI stock chat like the how it's gone off in price, just so you can take a look at it. Right performances and fees. Let me look at this. If you bought VTI right, this same VTI. Yeah, I'm from inception nine percent. It just talks like April two thousand and one, you would have nine percent, But nine percent is in US dollars, so you're beating inflation. Ten years is twelve percent, five years is fifteen percent. This

year alone is twenty seven percent. And that's you. You're putting your thirty one dollars, they're gonna get twenty seven percent. US ambition is two three percent, so we can get a real wit of return. So that's how you want to do it. You want to do a lot of equities when you are younger, So you get older, you want to then transit towards more fee income. But you have tons of years ahead of you. I want to do this forget about it?

Speaker 3

Okay, So would you advise I buy at currently or maybe watch the market til you go?

Speaker 1

And why are you watching the market? Girl? Why are watching each market? I want to do? You buy? There is no you don't time the market. You want to be the time in the market is more important than time in the market. You can just buy it. So if you decide it, you're going to be exposed to the market. Do what's called dollar cost averaging, So every month something so if you ignore the price, you want to buy a good stock at a good price. If you can't do that, just do it dollar cost averaging

and you keep on buying. If it goes up, that's fine. If it goes down, that's fine. But if you want to wait and say I'm gonna wait for the stock to go up to go If you google, there's you see lots of askles on Twitter down and I will tell you if you missed the the best five days in the market, your total will crash. If you google it, use a lot of articles telling you if you were invested for every single day in the market, but you missed maybe the top five personays in the market, you

lose a lot of money. Why do they give you them? Because you won't to be invested. You don't do that. I want to buy, so you buy today, You ignore the price. You're younger, you keep on buying. If this is your objective, you keep on buying, You keep on investing. You keep only balancing. Right now, you're you're one hundred percent. Equities are not You're rebalancing. But that's what I would believe I was. It's not advice. I'm not telling you what how I would approach it.

Speaker 3

Okay, Okay, thank you so much.

Speaker 11

One more thing so say, because regards to original you spoke about, So I'm saying I have the seventy seventeen thirty or eighty twenty, like you said, to split between moote market and I want to keep reinvesting monthly, so I keep putting that same amount every mon automatics investment on something.

Speaker 1

Every month for the next as as. So you have to go back to your budget. So when you do your budget, you have to say, I want to allocate this amount for investments. So if in this year you are allocated ten percent for investment, then that's what's going to go into it. Right, So it's going to be based on what your budget. If you if want us, that's just your money tomorrow. Okay, that's more that you

didn't plan for. You also put it in there as additional for logic contributions in But as long as you keep on doing when you get a pay check, you do an auto transfer, you don't see the money turn up. Your paycheck goes automatically to your investment account. They're from your investment account. You don't take that money, and you do your seventy eighty do as long as you end the money. As your income goes up, you can increase the percentage or you can buy it. That's why your

percentages are good. If you go to it again, go to my work, go to do Carlo at the dot org. You see a financial carlet there right, so you can plug in all your expenses at the very bottom. When you do the expenses, will tell you give us a percentage for investment. You can put ten percent day it took up. Put everything for you. If you put your

income income passible, do all that for you. Put your percentage you want there to cap how much you want to save every month, every paranlem if you have a problem with the enemy.

Speaker 32

Yeah, okay, okay, so yes, my very.

Speaker 3

Last question, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1

I'm just really increasing at the moment. So say I, for example, you know.

Speaker 11

Really I want to know this is just extra. I want to look at stop personality individually. What are the things you you as a person, What things you look out for? Say, okay, I'm looking at as if first sour open Door or ATCHA or any.

Speaker 3

Of these very random stocks.

Speaker 11

What are thinks you look out for before you say this stock has motivity and would be something in.

Speaker 22

The future I see.

Speaker 11

And also, do you look at the price for ALIENI visual.

Speaker 3

Day this is a manufactor for you?

Speaker 1

That good question you asked a good question. So again, you know when you look at the stock, right you your first question is will it n money tomorrow? That's your question, will it? And so how do you know if the stock will end money tomorrow? Market share? Right here, that has market share will win. So before even go to the numbers, look at the market share in that sector.

If it's a growing, if it's a growing market share, or it's a still market share, and the products also have the still market share, then you're say, okay, that is in this tight market, this company has the means to hold its own to sell its products and to make an aliens gross. You are looking at future endings, not then

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