‘Task’ Episode 6 Recap

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It's Andy Greenwald! I have to literally you, first of all. I think that this is a very incredible episode of Task and a serious one. and we need to treat it with the seriousness that it deserves. But I must say at the outset that Grasso's house did in some way remind me of the apartment that you and your not yet wife shared in Brooklyn, in which the...

Constant factor, whether it was summer or the dead of winter at your beautiful Christmas party, is the cracked kitchen window. Oh, yeah. Around which everyone smoked. Yes. There were rules. They were respected. Andy, we are going to talk about episode six of Task, which was huge, which was momentous, which had a lot of stuff going on. So if you, for some reason, are tuning into the watch and have not watched Task yet.

stop what you're doing, go watch Task, and then you can come back and check us out. I want to get right into it, man. I have no banter. I have no amusing anecdotes. My amusing anecdote is this is one of my favorite shows of the year. This was... I think the best episode of this series so far. It's called Out Beyond Ideas of Wrongdoing and Rightdoing, There is a River.

Is that a Song's Ohio song? You'd think. It's actually a line from a poem by the 13th century Persian poet Rumi. That's so weird. That was my second guess. What are the odds? This one was written by Brad Inglesby and it was directed by Sally Richardson-Woodfield who also appears as the prosecutor when Maeve is being interrogated by Tom midway through the episode. Shout out to Sally. Excellent work on both sides of the camera.

hats in this episode and it continues right where episode five left off with the standoff in the woods and um you know one of the more unrelenting breathless 15 minute sequences that i've seen on tv in a long time Or at least since, you know, the standalone episode of Adolescence in the interrogation room. But just an incredible 15 minutes of a standoff in the woods. I believe the title card appears at the 18 minute mark. So sick. That is such a sick move.

Devastating. If you're doing the SportsCenter version of it, Kathleen McGinty gets shot in the shoulder. Robbie is fatally stabbed by Jason. Lizzie is run over by an escaping Jason and Perry in a truck. And she dies in Grosso's arms despite him betraying the task force and everyone else. Moments that this show has been building towards.

And it really, really delivers. Last episode was the heat diner scene, essentially, with Robbie and Tom in the car heading out towards this spot where... where Robbie had grown up and spent time with Billy as a kid on the Lehigh. Or in Lehigh. No, no, no, no. Honestly, the use of lakes and rivers, I'm getting a little confused, but it is Bushkill. I've honestly never been to Bushkill. But this was the kind of...

action set piece that this show hadn't really touched on since, you know, Tom and Ray wrestling in a basement kind of, and we haven't really, we've done a lot of talking and then we had some serious action. I, you know, I kind of complained a little bit about.

oh, you know, I think people have expected ending the episode with a bang and they start the episode with a bang. So much to go over here, man. We want to just do general thoughts and impressions first. Yeah, I mean, I do want to talk about obviously the... consequential moments of the episode and in terms of the plot, in terms of the surprises, in terms of the masterful orchestra conducting that Brad Inglesby does here regarding when.

how and where he deploys certain events. Certain things that are inevitable but feel surprising because of where they're placed, maybe. Surprising, but the flip side of inevitable is that dangerous word, earned. And it also helps clarify what show we've been watching in a way that I found very significant. You know, it was, it's glib to say that task is Philly heat.

I think they were clear. Clearly, it's not just that. But I think to use the previous episode's car ride with Tom and Robbie as the... comparison point to the diner scene like the diner scene is a lot of it's it's it's michael man men right like they're kind of like eyeing each other up and they're they're gauging each other and it's kind of like a dick measuring contest in the best way with those actors

This is about two broken men connecting over their shared humanity, which is a little bit more my speed. But then again, I've been to a diner in a minute. So the fact that this show isn't about... necessarily the mano a mano collision between these two guys it's about the spiderweb crack tendrils of violence and community and loss and regret and guilt is really meaningful to me in watching it and also um

feels exactly where the show should be and what the show should be. And the thing that I wrote down after watching most of it was, and this is my top down. hundred thousand foot statement that I kind of want to get your perspective on is that I just think there's something both beautiful and really, really healthy at this moment about a TV show that doesn't look away from the consequences of terrible things.

We are desensitized to so much because of the scroll, because of just the nature of what's popular, what's grabby. And this is a show that gives us and earns, again, that...

that tricky word Robbie's would be father daughter dance with Harper and shows Harper sobbing because her father has, as we learned at the end of the episode, essentially sacrificed himself for her future. Yeah. Grasso is a full human who has done something unforgivable and has now, in the last episode, with the last episode ahead of us, has evolved into the show's villain in a very strong way. Even Jason, who is...

unequivocally the show's villain, who has murdered both Prendergrass brothers with his bare hands, basically. He's still a wife guy. He's still a wife guy. I... Big picture. And maybe this is also like international picture. Like I just found at this moment in history and in also my travel schedule, I found that just like unshakable humanity of the show, both affecting, but also.

like a restorative. Yeah, I wonder whether or not some of it is just the uncommon settings of some of these real breakthrough moments. I mean, I think I... I went into this series and I was like, oh, this is going to be the urban crime drama that Philadelphia has never really truly gotten. I don't know if I thought there was going to be a shootout on Broad Street or a chase. through the Italian market. There almost was after Sean Payton's behavior on Sunday. But...

This show largely takes place in the natural world. And many of the insert shots, many of the cutaways are to birds and water and trees.

the connection that these characters have to these places being places of peace for them. In the previous episode, Ruffalo talked a lot. They have places of peace, right? Even that is so fragile. Yeah, and the idea that Ruffalo is...

trying to relate to Robbie by describing the patterns of behavior of a bird that shouldn't be where it is but could still find its way home. Or the way that Robbie releases... tom by sending him to a beautiful place that he has to get through by walking for a mile in the woods and let me just say as someone who's not much of a hiker that's not an easy walk like a mile in the woods

It's more the woods part than the mile, I think. But yeah, in any case, there's just, you know, this is also the setting, obviously, for this incredibly violent exchange between the bikers, Robbie.

and the task force. But it's really striking how much of this show has decided to take place in an incredibly idyllic setting and what it's trying to do with that. I thought that... A lot of the repeated imagery, Robbie jumping into the quarry, of birds flying, of whatever, obviously get brought back up in his last few seconds of life in a way that I thought...

was quite beautiful and quite earned you know like that can often be that like ah yes i'm touching wheat as i walk into you know valhalla um but This felt very much like they did the work to get to that moment of release. And even more so, the fact that Robbie had been basically asking, Tom, what happens when you die? Like, what do you see? What do people seem to behave like? Because he fucking knows in the backseat of that car.

He might as well have basketballs in that duffel bag. He is not bringing drugs. He does not expect to get out of this thing alive. He knows that he's signing up for his, that's his plan. So his interest in...

How do people feel when they die? What do you do when people die? That's real because he knows that's what's about to happen. I also think it's significant that his dream of escape, a dream that you, I think, really smartly pointed out is just... punctured like a balloon instantly by a 21 year old when he says it out loud to her the dream of going to canada like an unspoiled green wilderness um it really made me reconsider all of that because he lives in an abundant

green beautiful wilderness or he grew up in one so it's really about returning to the the innocent self it's about returning to a a time of before sin basically yes and that place doesn't really exist. It's in brochures or it's in the Bible. Maybe, you know, I, I, I find like when people, I have seen like online, some people

casually dismissing the show, not that they don't like it, but that it's just like a HBO classed up version of a more typical procedural. And I just think that that's to be... With all due respect, I think that's really missing the point. I think that this show is a very, very thoughtful and at times beautiful and profound meditation on life and loss.

supports and allows this kind of like the kind of stuff that we used to like to do in college English classes go well this imagery is significant because it represents a prelapsarian time when like all that bullshit that we don't do anymore because we don't even write we just talk on podcasts but

It does feel like we could go back to some of that. I mean, you're reading spirituality books, you know? Because of this, though. Yeah. The fucking episode is named after a line from a roomie poem. Come on. You know, the... tom talks about this bird and then a bird distracts robbie um is it is that earthly business or is that inevitable like the way of the natural world goes i don't know but um

I think it's worth talking about because we've been praising Brad's architecture skills throughout the whole season. And so I feel like it's worth diving into just exactly what he did here, because in addition to playing.

I've been saying this for years and I'm not the only one saying it playing one of the most effective and still underutilized cards in the show running deck, which is, um, show your hand early or kill someone before you think it's time or, you know, time is really the thing that, that, that, that is still most potent, I think for showrunners in terms of breaking through to a jaded audience.

In addition to doing all of that, and along with Sally and the crew, designing this incredible action sequence, he also rope-a-doped us. Because... Everything was so full on. I can't be the only one who didn't really think about Shelley. I didn't think about that business. The only reason I thought about it really more than once is that Mickey Sumner is...

Very good. And why would you have her do one and a half scenes? You know, she had came, but she, she said for what she has one line, but the fact that everything about the, like I found, you know, a minute ago, I'm talking about how. how beautiful and profound and how moved I was by how like bleak at the show sometimes is.

no moment maybe more so than when robbie has his revenge and then he too gets killed by the same monster that ruined his life yeah um only to find out as you were alluding to that this entire thing was a suicide play and that the money was already secured and it was about keeping his family clean maybe there was a

Maybe he hoped to get out of those woods. I don't think he seemed surprised by the amount of motorcycle guys who showed up. I do think he was surprised that the task force found him. And I do think he was hindered by the fact that Grasso was doing Chip Kelly hand signals. all over the place to get guys to like do this don't do that do not take a shot at lizzie talk about traders to philadelphia yeah you you know what there's something about how

A lot of what happens in this episode feels inevitable. I did not assume Robbie was going to get out of this series alive. Right. And I didn't think everybody from the task force was going to live. I don't think I... foresaw it being as not random, but seemingly arbitrary in terms of its circumstances, the way that Lizzie died. But the connection...

that she and Grasso, I think, sincerely had. I don't think that that was part of the assignment. I think all he had to do was just be like, they're coming for you here. He obviously opens himself up to her. arbitrary nature of the way that she dies in a car crash rather than in a shootout you know i mean not crash but she she gets run over she is run over uh and she can't and the reason she gets run over is because she can't hear the truck coming because

Grasso is fired off a gun right by her head. Ruptured your eardrum. I figured Aaliyah or Lizzie would probably die out there. Or McGinty. But... This show isn't about those kinds of moments. It's about the moments afterwards. And that's what you're hitting at. The reconciling and dealing with violence. The set piece works better.

Because we are now going to spend an hour and a half thinking about and talking about what happened. And there may be some shootout in the finale and it may be Jason versus Perry versus Grosso versus Tom versus Aaliyah. But I think that it... it's so much more effective to think about it in terms of like these people's these characters lives go on even if the series ends you know and even when Maeve gets that money at the end which would be the end of any

of 90% of versions of this show is Maeve gets a huge bag of money in it. I think Maeve's in trouble, man. Yeah, she's 21 years old raising these kids. And a lot of people are watching it or looking for it. And it was so important to Jason that Jason was like still out there eating, eating Perry trout. You know, try Alan Perry. Do you think, well, I have two quick side questions for you, digressive questions for you. One.

Are you excited for the day in 20 years when Brad Inglesby announces that he's making task two with Leonardo DiCaprio in the Maeve part about what happens to the money? I feel like that's just... yeah let's just book it in advance get your tickets in vista vision um and uh uh

The second question, as I did wonder, like sometimes, you know, often around where I am right now in the beautiful city of London, you and I will like indulge little fantasies of like, oh, what if just two chums shared a flat for a time and, you know, split the G together on occasion or whatever. Do you think we could have hung in a Perry and Jason type way? Like, I feel like that would be a recipe for the end of a 29 year friendship. You just keep getting on your phone. Why are you doing that?

I'm trying to make you dinner. Show some respect. Just some wet fish from straight from the river. That's not where I saw this show going. I didn't see this show going in like a weird like... All of these people are trapped with their own decisions now. Grasso is... There are people, there are writers, I'm sure in any medium, but let's talk specifically about television. There are writers who are obsessed with...

plot. And there are writers who are obsessed with aesthetics. And there are writers who are obsessed with style. And there are writers who are obsessed with surprises. And those are all valid. And there are examples in each category of shows that I love. What's clear about Brad Inglesby is He's obsessed with life. He can't stop drinking from the cup of life, like in some sort of dramatic religious analogy that I can't quite pull off here. Everyone is given.

a full life everyone exists in uh always all at once like you're saying jason is a wife guy but like everyone is the totality of their experience tom and robbie didn't need to get along But they did. And their behavior afterwards reflected that, you know, Grasso absolutely really cared about Lizzie, but he also is a flawed and failed person who is trying to have everything all at once and make it work out, which doesn't seem to ever work out for anyone.

um at any point in the show i you said that and you're right that like the lizzie death felt sort of random but i'm not really ready to talk about it yet Well, I'm going to check in. I just wanted to say that I was more prepared maybe than you were because early in the episode, like super early, Grasso says, Lizzie, stick with me. And I was like, ah, shit, that's the McBain moment right there. That's a wrap on her.

So talk me through your feelings. Well, I thought it was a great character. And I think it speaks to a larger conversation that probably people are going to have after this episode of like, why were these people put on a task force in the first place?

Because with the exception of Aaliyah, they seem to have some questions about their preparedness. Aaliyah obviously... all about her business, has this sharpshooting background. Seems like she's a pretty good detective investigator. She got her badge and her nickname. Yeah. But... Lizzie has a bad reputation among her fellow state troopers as being a little bit of a nervous Nelly when it comes to when shit goes down. And Grosso has something in his file. Yeah.

that is known to possibly tip off dark hearts, FYI. There's two strands of thought there, right? One is being asked to join a task force.

is not nearly as special as you and I may have thought it was. Sure. But everyone's always getting pulled into task forces. It's like being a sophomore in college and someone saying, I want to join my band. Right. Like everybody does the time. Everybody picks up a bass once in a while. At least once, right? Who among us did not play psychedelic country for two great...

weeks, you know, do the best weeks of your life. Um, the other alternative, and this is something that I'm legitimately asking you because I haven't read anything about this episode yet. And I also am in the dark and I don't know if that's good or bad is

is McGinty still sus? Because we felt that way. And then it seemed to, she seemed to be cleared a little bit by the Grasso stuff, but doesn't her still being a little bit compromised cover for the... motley makeup of the task force? Possibly. I mean, I think that I'm open to anything happening. I would say that the difference between task and merit is...

found in this kind of construction where Task is a crime show and a lot of what is happening is evident to viewers if it's not evident to the characters. So the viewers know that Grasso is the mole before. Tom does I think the viewers know Cliff is dead before Robbie does you know like there's it's a totality of like this sort of these

dozen characters and what they're going through and what they're doing and what they're thinking. We know that Aaron's dead before Jason does. Who killed Aaron and Jason does not. Mare was more of a... You're talking about Mayor of Easttown, Brad's first show. Mayor of Easttown was more about this woman looking for the killer of a young girl. And as things were revealed...

They usually happened in the order that Mare herself was finding them. The viewer and Mare were on the same page. So I think that there's elements of it that make... may make you second guess. And one thing that Inglesby is doing in this show that I think is successful sometimes and every once in a while I bump against is the, someone is about to find out a very important piece of information, but the show is going to cut away from that.

Well, yeah, but that's TV 101. Sure. I get it. I hear you. I mean, for me, stuff like that is baked into the concept when you make a detective or a crime show. And it's just a question of how artfully you hide it. And, you know, look, there's a character on the show who's a magician.

and so maybe there's some projection there that likes how brad sees himself you know please come to my show um um one one thing i wanted my point was really more that like the way that he is making it and the way that we are being given this information sometimes before the characters is that it creates a more of a sense of inevitability and tragedy about it because

You're like, hey man, Robbie, this is about to be the most popular woods in America. Please don't go here. But he's got a destiny. He's got something he's moving towards. And I think... You know, the idea that the show is going to be about Tom finding Robbie and instead it's almost going to be Tom finding peace for Robbie. Yes. It's pretty amazing. Yes. I think two quick things.

one quick thing and one longer thing. The quick thing is just, there was a really artful reprise of the crazy Robbie thing. crazy Robbie, always trying to find a way to, what was it? To save his life, to change his life. I wrote it down. I just can't find it in my notes. Um, this people are who they are, which is what Perry referred to him as in episode five. Yeah.

And then that's how people see him, because we're introduced to him as someone who is quirky and interesting and maybe maybe biting off a little bit more than he can chew. The nature of television is we're right there with him. So we just kind of trust him. Oh, Cliff likes him. We like him, too. That put an era that added an air of tragedy and inevitability to his art, for sure. Realizing that everyone was kind of like this guy's.

This guy's just going to keep trying and we don't think he's ever going to get there. The subtle reveal that the show actually isn't a two-hander. It's the Tom show. was, I think, kind of beautiful and felt surprising in a way. And I don't say that to diminish Tom Felfry's performance because it's one of the best performances of the year. And I think Emmy voters are going to agree with me on that. Yeah, all they have to do is watch.

watch his scene with Margarita LaVeya when he finds out Cliff's dead. This is such a sneaky, good Ruffalo performance. And one of the things that is a hallmark of Ruffalo's 25-year career is that you could say that about all of his best performances because he's such an unshowy. actor the spotlight speech aside like he is just he just sinks into things and he just embodies a kind of conflicted morality

but always erring towards good that I think is really, really compelling. And so his performance, the pairing of the two we've talked about is so brilliant that he's just such a steady, speaking of bass, like a steady bass drum.

underneath the like the more frantic snare of like what what Robbie's doing with Cliff and to have it emerge into the solo and realize that this has been about I mean, everyone's the main character of their own story, but he becomes the main character and his story becomes the main story of the show.

of one of redemption and i think that ruffalo is astonishing in this episode like he has big action moments and it's clobbering the shit out of perry and it's like whoa i didn't know tom had that in his bag but what he then goes through in the aftermath and you see the priest emerge again in terms of like giving Robbie last rights.

And then there is a moment and I know, I feel like you had, you lost Alison Oliver's performance. And so you went through your grieving process and you were, you were emotional, maybe uncharacteristically. So it could be the jet lag. I miss my kids. But when he when Tom comes home with Sam and again, we were joking over text last night. We both watched the episode and you were like, well, the inevitable happened in a compelling way. And I was like, oh.

tom adopting sam which felt inevitable from the beginning i don't have receipts i didn't say it on the podcast it just felt like something that we were headed towards but he shows up and he's got a batman lego and he goes in the kitchen to make peanut butter and jelly and his daughters who are now united in a really beautiful way and again this is a subtle thing clearly

Brad has multiple children because a sign of a healthy home is the children conspiring against the adult and not being on the adult side anymore, being like on each other's side, which is sort of beautiful and subtle and definitely recognizable, I would say, as a hashtag girl dad.

He's making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and they're, they're saying like, why are you doing this? Is this a, why did you do this? Are you sure this is a good idea? And I'm sure the audience is saying that as well. And he basically says.

I saw him in this place, this awful hopeless place. And I thought about your mother and I thought, what would she do? And the best answer I could come up with was to bring him home. That is anyone else. Doesn't he say something like there's no way she would let him.

be there like she would never let this kid stay in this place yeah and now does anyone else want a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and uh it got super dusty in this london executive apartment well it's just like and the totality beautiful The totality of the experience of watching Tom basically get this second lease on life from Robbie, because Robbie is, you know, they do this car ride, they talk about...

Team Susan or Team Tom and what happens after you die and birds. Tom thinks he's going to be killed. He's going to be executed out in the woods by Robbie. And he's just like, just let me talk to my kids. Let me talk to my kids. And Robbie's like, I'm going to actually send you somewhere beautiful, you know? And he lets him go and he makes him walk through the woods and that his emergence from those woods.

Seems to revive not only his ability to be a police, a law enforcement officer or an agent, but also a father and also a communicator and somebody who's like opening up his heart. And maybe that's also what happens after Robbie dies in his arms. You know what I mean? Like he's given this gift that allows him to return to who he was. I mean, think about like, he's now got two kids in his house. He has now got...

another third child that he is essentially fostering. He's pursuing this case outside of like, what is just. the bare minimum of what is required from him in his job. He's like, no, I'm going to go to Kathleen's house. I'm going to keep looking after this. And then he goes after Grosso in what was, I thought, a wonderful scene. Like, yes, it is the third time Grosso has pointedly asked about the Catholic Church.

But I actually thought it was pretty cool that Grasso wasn't like, I didn't do anything. No, I love that. That he was like, is that a rhetorical question? Or are you really asking me? And it's like, what can you prove versus what do you know is the whole thing. Before we get there, just to say like...

This entire series is above my religious pay grade. Like there is something that strikes me as profoundly Catholic about all of it in ways that I don't. I'll let you know when I get to the chapter that explains. I was going to ask if you could talk me through it and maybe, you know, if we get a chance to talk to Brad again, we can talk specifically about this stuff because the idea of life and death is connected as, as a circle, um, is, you know, is stitched into every.

fabric of the show. Tom lost his wife and essentially lost his son in the process. Robbie kills Sam's parents and takes Sam. And all of this awful, awful, deeply felt death leads to Sam snuggling up and falling asleep safe for the first time in maybe many years in his life in Tom's house.

That's what I think anyone who's ever lived or gone through any kind of grieving process clings to and comes out the other side of. It's like we have life still. We have more life and we have to make the most of it when we have it. I found that again, I found it very affecting. I find it very moving and I feel lucky about the show because it gave me the action highs and it gave me this gut punch of emotion.

I think sometimes like Catholic imagery and religious imagery and crime stuff can be, it can be a sign of heavy handedness. Yeah. It has been both. I think at one point in the. fifth episode, when Shelly and Robbie meet in the beginning of the episode. And Robbie's like, why should I trust you? And Shelly is like, here, I have this plan. We're going to sell the drugs on her.

on her own. He's like, why should I trust you? And she's like, because I'm a good person. And he goes, Jesus Christ. And I'm a good person, or am I a good person, or are we bad people? Very, very, very overworked trope in crime television and in prestige television over the years. But I don't know. The show just kind of earns those kinds of discussions. And I think that... When Grosso is asking about confession and talking about like the nature of like, you know, unburdening himself and...

Tom just says like confessions for human beings. Confessions are for humans. A human practice to help us with our shame. It's not for God's sake. If you want to be forgiven, all you have to do is ask. Yes. Yes.

And then like a vengeful God, Tom's like, if you're not going to come clean with me, I'm coming for you. Pretty ballsy to show up at the new bad guy's house alone, especially now that you've taken on the... charge of a traumatized eight-year-old boy yeah um but you gotta make i mean still gotta be a tv show i respect it um one thing i want to say i want to i want to make sure that this is on the record that i will no longer

be slandering Sir Kristen Cole. She's got it. It is an incredible thing when you realize that your only experience with an actor is seeing them essentially in a corset. Or like in his case, like a very tightly fitting armor. I'm not saying he's bad on that show. I'm saying, what is he doing? And it's certainly not. We've been talking a bunch of the last few weeks about.

shows or directors that understand the actors that they cast and how to showcase them and unlock them and unleash them like Ethan Hawke in the lowdown or whatever, or Tom Pelfrey here, or actually most of the Amelia, Amelia Jones, who's might be the, like the MVP.

of the entire series. We haven't even mentioned her much today. He's so good. He is just purely good in the show. Fabian Frankel, like English actor who is just... understanding the assignment and i feel like maybe we'll ask him about this but like i just without naming names i bet they auditioned a lot of people who thought they were auditioning for delco heat

You know, and we're playing not to the cheap seats, but playing to the popular seats. And this guy is so haunted. He's just deeply haunted throughout. And the turn.

from calling him boss and seeming to be really like the supplicant, like going to him for confession to the devil is so elegantly done. Did you like the scene between Grasso and his... county detective boss who's also obviously in cahoots with the dark hearts and and them talking about and like grasso just being like she died in my arms and like he's like forget her yeah i mean it was a good scene um a lot of yinglings

A lot of yinglings morning, noon, and night, which I don't necessarily disrespect. Um, one thing I'm learning, you know, when you get like TV brain, when you see the shows too close to each other and like, after I watched this and then I watched the first house of Guinness and I was like, boy, men do not like to have liquid poured on them.

Like that is just like a real violation to get your head in the sink or have a drink thrown in your face. Yeah. I like that scene, but like, I just, I guess the other thing to say about the surprise. like finding out where we are in the show, like all these things happened. And then it pivots into kind of a different type of story for the last episode, the proof that it works and it's a leap of faith, shout out the Catholic church. It's a leap of faith.

That they would get to episode six and take the 1A on the call sheet off the board and essentially solve many aspects of the task force's case. And I don't feel diminished. Like I'm not.

thinking that it's going to be like in the grand tradition of the wire where the last episode's like a long denouement like that is not the case we are dealing with something deeper from a different perspective than we had previously realized yeah and i haven't watched obviously we have not watched the finale but given what we know now about what this show is really about, and given what even Tom and Grosso talk about in Grosso's house, you have to assume that...

Ethan's court hearing is coming up. And that is going to be about physician heal thyself. You can't just go around telling people what happens when you die and how forgiveness works. without without reckoning with your own family and that might be what this fucking show is about like the Perry and the Perry and Jason and Grosso stuff could get wrapped up in five minutes it's really gonna be about like is this guy's soul

capable of being revived. I can't be the only one who thought that when there's the shot of Tom walking into not Covenant House, but essentially the juvie where Sam's being held, that I thought he was going into the prison. That's not an episode thing. You're right about Perry and Jason. All Jason has to do is figure out what happened with Aaron. And then that's a wrap on Uncle Pear. Do you think we're going to get much of an explanation as to how they...

how Grosso comes to be a Departed-style detective. Yeah, I do, because I think there's a lot more there, and that character is going to reveal himself, and like I said, suddenly he's the villain now. um in a show that doesn't really do villains other than i mean perry and jason are villains but they still love their ladies you know

Anything else from this episode? I mean, I have a bunch of stuff that I thought was just really lovely, like, or well done. I mean, obviously Lizzie's death, her whole, like... sequence of events in the woods, getting basically terrified, and then killing Shane when Shane obviously thinks that Grasso is going to stop her from pulling the trigger.

That quick moment where Shane is just like, I'm going to kill her. I'm going to get her. And Gross is like, if you touch her, you're fucking dead. His efforts to protect her while also trying to... do whatever he's trying to do out there i mean i don't think he wanted the bikers there in the first place because he had told jason yeah he's got an agent with him don't come out here um and look man i mean like that's a fucking brutal

death scene for lizzie i i will note with it you know getting hit full speed by a pickup truck i don't think you'd look as lovely and peaceful afterwards as holding her in I respect the fiction. Yes. I was grateful for the fiction. Uh, Alison Oliver, get your flowers. Yeah. Incredible. An incredible 110% commitment performance. Um,

I watched conversation with friends and I, you could have given me 10 guesses about what I would see her do next. And it, none of them would have been this. Yeah. Um, and I liked that show fine. Um, and that was just great when she went, when Aaliyah finds the bullseye patch, you know? Heartbreak. Beautiful. I love the Maeve confession scene. I think Amelia Jones is just God tier. And I love the writing and I love Just Enough.

You know, like I find myself in two handed scenes like that. I was like, is she just going to say that's the same guy who killed my dad. Now he's taken everyone away. But she did it in a look, you know. And so when you have a chance, when actors take. dialogue off the board. Not saying that line was written, but it could have been, and it wasn't necessary. I love that. I also love Maeve's release, like when she gets home. I do too. There was, again, it's a...

That reminded me of Mare in the sense that I think some people who were watching that show also as a crime show or procedural were like, oh, it's a little bit fantasy at the end. It's a little bit rewarding, but I'm like, these people deserve a reward. I think that Brad is essentially optimistic about life, even though the shows are quite dark. It is funny to say that, though. I did read a little bit of ambiguity in the reaction where she was like, now I'm the mother of...

of two small children. Exactly. It's hugging you and it's hitting you. I mean, it's better for the world. Tom is factually right when he says that. But it's not like her life gets that much easier even then when the drug cast shows up. I liked how strongly Tom kept saying Wissahickon. Yeah. That's a word, you know, we used to hear a lot in our life. 20, 30 years go by. And now we just have to wait for an HBO series to say it a lot.

That was pretty much all I had for this one as far as unanswered questions. We've kind of gone over them. Perry and Jason are still out there. The Aaron mystery to the extent that there is one. We're just waiting for Jason to put two and two together. And then it's Grosso and his boss and whether or not the boss will get implicated. And just... Where's Freddy? Because we've spent some time with Freddy. And...

Look, I think that there is some chatter out there about this not being a limited series. There was chatter about Mare too, and Mare remained a limited series. Season three, we bring the two houses of Philadelphia together. Jesus Christ, don't tempt me with a good time. Mayor of Tasktown. But I wonder whether or not they would let anything be the, is Grosso in the wind? Is there going to be anything dangling? Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah.

I don't think so. I don't think so either, but it does. We're going to find out. I thought the thing that jumped out at me most was McGinty saying, I'm not going to put you up for my job, but maybe she will. Yeah. Well, let's find out what her intentions are. Great to talk to you, man. We'll be back on Thursday with some more WatchPod stuff. Everybody enjoy Task. I hope you're very enjoying Task. Yeah, that would be a weird way to... Yeah. And I can't wait to talk about the finale with you.

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