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MAGA Abusing Charlie Kirk's Murder for Personal Gain

Sep 16, 202512 minEp. 653
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While most have condemned any political violence in our country, members of MAGA across America have taken Charlie Kirk's murder and turned it into a political prop. Steve Schmidt looks at the use of Kirk's death from prominent MAGA figures and urges a return to free speech in America.

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Speaker 1

It is Tuesday, September sixteenth. This is the morning our country it's in big trouble. Yesterday the American people were witnessed to a disgrace without precedent. There are some things that need to be said, and I will do my best to say them clearly. Charlie Kirk, during his public ministry, divided the United States. He humiliated and he degraded people. He did not stand for the proposition that we are all created equal. He stood for the idea that some

are above others, more equal than others. And he went about his business not trying to spread reason, not embracing dissent, but engaged in a type of performance. Theerer that sought to punch down. Charlie Kirk's legacy is not something that at the moment of his assassination was particularly interesting. It was enough to deplore the killing, to say that it has no place and a free in democratic society. That the killer had no right to steal from Charlie Kirk's children,

from his wife, from his family, Charlie Kirk's life. It was not his. The author of Charlie Kirk's life was the supreme judge of the universe, not some hate filled twenty two year old Charlie Kirk. When I look at his life from the perspective of midlife, had many many years, including in those years, was the possibility, from my perspective, that he would have turned his perspectives around and seen something that helped him grow up. But that was taken

away in an instant. And I'll say this, if I had an employee and on their social media account in public was celebrating the death of this young man, I would fire them immediately because I wouldn't trust their judgment. I wouldn't trust their decency and their morality. I would know that there was something broken within them. There is no question that we live in an idiotized era that is beyond the dimensions of most of us to be able to articulate. The reaction to the Charlie Kirk assassination

proves this. When Charlie Kirk lived, he said what he believed, and here is what he believed.

Speaker 2

For these blacks trying to go rob her happening all the time in urban America. Prowling blacks go around for fun to go target white people.

Speaker 3

That's a fact.

Speaker 2

Black crime is a major issue in our country. Why are you pushing criminal justice reform exactly? Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Shila Jackson Lee and Catangi Brown Jackson. They're coming out and they're saying, I'm only here because of affirmative action. We know you do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.

Speaker 1

These quotes demonstrate what he believed and the things that he believed, right down to the idea that empathy is weakness should be deplored. And this pastor understands that.

Speaker 4

Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be assassinated. But I'm overwhelmed seeing the flags of the United States of America at half staff, calling this nation to honor and venerate a man who was an unapologetic racist, has spent all of his life sowing seeds of division and hate, and to this land.

Speaker 1

Everybody in America should appreciate that two things can be true at once. We have to condemn the violence, but not at the point of threat on our knees in submission and to the causes and ideas that Charlie Kirk's life served, because those ideas were indecent. It is not fair to impose on Charlie Kirk at the hour of his death, responsibility for the actions of the living who have sought to fundraise and profit off of his open casket, have sought to assign blamed for his murder on every

person who opposes Donald Trump. The reaction of the Vice President of the United States, it is terrible crime, demonstrates his utter and absolute unfitness for high office. That he is there is the result of a misjudgment of the American people that will carry tragic consequences for our nation for a very long time.

Speaker 5

So when you see someone celebrating charlie murder, call them out in hell, call their employer. We don't believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility, and there is no civility in the celebration of political assassination. Get involved, Get involved, Get involved. It's the best way to honor Charlie's legacy.

Speaker 1

The Attorney General of the United States is a buffoon who is threatening the erasure of the free speech right, as if the First Amendment doesn't exist, But it does. Across the depth and breadth of the government. At the hour of a man's death, in a premeditated and calculated campaign, we have seen fascists seek to expand their political power, and they have done so by making demands, by threatening,

and using propaganda to intimidate. And every American should being prepared to say enough is enough.

Speaker 6

And while our side of the aisle certainly has its crazies, it is a statistical fact that most of the lunatics in American politics today are proud members of the far left.

Speaker 1

Charlie Kirk was a devisive figure of a fascist faction. He is not a national hero, and it is inappropriate to try to impose upon the nation him as one. The ceremony in Yankee Stadium under the uniform number of Jackie Robinson was a disgrace. Charlie Kirk embraced the philosophy of the Yankee Ben Chapman. If you don't know who Ben Chapman is, look him up and see what he did to Jackie Robinson standing on the sidelines in a Philly uniform. Charlie Kirk embraced a long running poison in

American life. Charlie Kirk denied an election result, which is the keystone of American life. None of those things gave that young man in Utah the right to kill him to assassinate him. It was an attack on liberty in

this country. It was an attack on free speech. And instead of de escalating the situation, and instead of making an argument about liberty, an argument about free speech, what we have seen from the Trump regime are threats from fascists like Steven Miller, insanity from the FBI director, an incompetent loom, a bug eye freak show, in competence from the Attorney General, and more threats, threats everywhere. Here's the deal.

Many years ago, in Nazi Germany, there was a perfection of the public mourning ritual, and no person personified it more than a man named horse Vessel. What you're seeing is something that is is un american, is anything that

has ever been witnessed. You are watching a fascist movement try to cloak a member of their faction in the national cloth, in the American flag, trying to impose upon the nation the idea that the appropriate response to a murder is the seizure of political power and the stifling of dissent lest there be more violence. By incredibly, the people making the argument are the chief instigators of political violence. On a ten year basis, bar none and against any

standard in American history. There has never been a political leadership that is called more consistently, more often for violence than has the MAGA leadership. When we meet our creator, we will all be judged, And in that moment of judgment, what is said about us here whom I'm matter at all? Charlie Kirk deserves to have a long life, and it was cut short in an act of terrible malevolence and

violence and evil and hate. But it is deeply unfair to involve Charlie Kirk into debate that has raged in the world that he is no longer a part of the world that exists after his death, the world in which his absence from it has become the springboard a rationale for mass murder, concentration camps in prison meant professional obliteration for anybody who dared to disagree with such hateful notions as the fact that Donald Trump lost the election

in twenty twenty. This madness, all of it, must be rejected. I want to share with you a brilliant eulogy by the Reverend Jesse Jackson of the American I Jackie Robinson. Watch it, appreciate it, and know this In the end what we do with our time here does not get washed away at the moment of our expiration. The record stands.

Jackie Robinson's life was about justice, and there should never be a baseball stadium in America where a crowd of baseball fans and baseball players from all over the world are made to salute an idea that is poisonous, that is obnoxious and steeped in the racial arrogance that has hurt and harmed and killed so many. Still within the living lifetime of so many watch this and contemplated.

Speaker 3

Today, we must balance the tears of some with the tears of joy, nix the bitter with the suite death and life. Jackie has a in history. Was a rock in the wall, creating concentric circles and ripples of new possibility. He was medicine. He was immunized by God from catching the diseases that he thought. The Lord's arms of protection enabled him to go through dangers seen and unseen, and he had the capacity to wear glory with grace. Jack's body was a temple of God, an instrument of peace.

We would watch him disappear into nothingness and stand back as spectators and watch the suffering from a far the mercy of God, antercepted this process. Tuesday, he committed him to steal away home where referees out of place. Only the stream of judge of the universe.

Speaker 1

Speaks, And I'm Steve Schmidt. This is the warning. I invite you to join this community where I promise to be honest, blunt and direct about what is happening in this country. America is in crisis. Follow and subscribe to this channel and on substack. Thank you.

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