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The Wandering Below

Davide Zimolo and Stella Robackthewanderingbelowjournal.substack.com
Join us on The Wandering Below: Messages of Healing for an Unbroken World for conversations about the inherent wholeness of Nature and humanity. We incorporate storytelling, etymology, behavioral and evolutionary ecology and psychology, Traditional Chinese Medicine, Human Design, and the Wise Earth Tradition in our exploration of topics related to Nature’s cycles, ritual, sustainability, culture, ancestry, grief, death and endings, relationships, nourishment, community, identity, and belonging. We believe the world is unbroken and our purpose is to offer messages that inspire your remembrance.
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Episodes

Two Projectors Answering Questions

Hey everyone! We're back with another Human Design episode. This time we're answering some questions recently shared by @samzagar on Instagram. The questions are geared toward Human Design Projectors and invited us to open up about ourselves, our fascinations, and the things we see in the world around us. If this sounds like all of our other episodes... it isn't! Not quite, anyway. Tune in to hear us share some of the things we like and don't like, even though they might not exactly fit with our...

Sep 25, 202442 min

Our Human Design Experiment: Deconditioning Check-In

It's been a year and a half since we published our first Human Design episode, so we're back with a deconditioning update! Today we chatted about where we're at in our Human Design experiments and what we've been noticing lately in terms of our aura types (projectors), our authorities (emotional and splenic), and our profiles (3/6 and 4/6). Tune into our first episode on this topic from March 10, 2023 here ----- Our Human Design Experiment: Deconditioning as Projector Partners...

Sep 03, 202459 min

Olympics + Belonging

Fun fact: Davide is a huge sports nerd and an especially devoted Olympics fan. In this episode, he shares what it's been like following his country's teams and athletes while living abroad. This sparked a conversation between him and Stella on the themes of belonging, patriotism, nostalgia, levels of identity, language, and connection.

Aug 15, 202442 min

Trauma, Nature, and Reconnection

In this episode, we mention four types of trauma: emotional, chemical, electromagnetic, and separation from Nature. From there, we explore how to reconnect with the natural world, no matter where we live or what our lifestyle is like. We noticed through our wandering that there's much overlap between the ways we relate to nature and healthy human connections.

Jul 29, 202438 min

Can Charity Build Community?

Davide and Stella talk through a web of thoughts on charity, volunteering, the gift economy, generosity, privilege, and whether or not giving builds community.

Jul 17, 202434 min

We bought a house!

In this episode we check in with updates on what's been happening in these past few months. We talk about buying and renovating a house, making big decisions as a couple, learning when is best to compromise within one's context, and our dreams of what community could be when spaces that foster it are accessible to all.

Jul 01, 202450 min

G on Community

Stella and Davide interview Gary - aka G - on community, contribution, competition, belonging, and social media.

Feb 10, 202447 min

Community-Building and the Nervous System

This bonus episode was inspired by a question Davide asked in our interview with Hayley and Katie ( Season 3 Episode 6 ). Tune in for an introduction to polyvagal theory (including a quick overview of the ventral vagal, dorsal vagal, and sympathetic nervous system responses) and our take on why understanding this theory can support us in forming connections and building communities. RESOURCES A book that unexpectedly changed our lives when we read it earlier this year was Waking Up to the Dark: ...

Dec 04, 202316 min

Hayley + Katie on Community

Hayley and Katie join us today for tea and a thoughtful conversation. Tune into this episode on community and belonging to hear our interviewees' perspectives on the queer community, connective virtual spaces, Swifties, and how symbols and labels can help you find your people.

Nov 30, 202354 min

Cecio on Community

Tune in for this conversation on community, culture-shaping, and belonging where Davide and Stella interview Cecio.

Nov 08, 202331 min

Gary on Community

Tune in for this conversation on community, culture-shaping, and belonging where Davide and Stella interview Gary.

Oct 30, 202354 min

Davide on Community

Tune in for this interview about community, culture-shaping, and belonging where Davide and Stella touch on the integral role of land in community, the loneliness of rooting into a new place where other humans aren't well rooted, the implications that king/queen/ascension mentality has on belonging, and "virtual communities."

Oct 29, 202346 min

Stella on Community

Tune in for this interview about community, culture shaping, and belonging.

Sep 25, 202349 minSeason 3Ep. 2

Gathering Community, Rooting Belonging

We’re back! Welcome to Season 3 of The Wandering Below podcast. In this episode, we’ll share: The energetics of late-summer, Traditional Chinese Medicine’s fifth season of the year Where we’re headed with the podcast! Inspired by this time of the earth element and of centeredness and abundance, we’re beginning to open up our conversation space to include the stories and reflections of those around us. What lies ahead are discussions with invited guests about community, belonging, and culture-bui...

Sep 15, 202319 minSeason 3Ep. 1

Summer: The Season of Grit + Gratitude

Join us for a conversation about the rich bewitchment that gratitude brings. The natural flow of thank-yous matches the abundance of the season, so let’s anchor a practice of circular gift-giving in the form of appreciation at this time of year when feeling grateful comes so easily. In this episode, we share excerpts from Sacred Economics: Money, Gift & Society in the Age of Transition (Charles Eisenstein) and Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge, and the Teachings of...

Jun 30, 202348 minSeason 2Ep. 10

Connecting With the Energetics of the Season: Summer 2023

Happy summer to one and all! Join us for the fourth in a series of episodes on seasonal energetics. Today we engage with the time of fire and joy using Traditional Chinese Medicine’s (TCM) five-element (or wuxing) system. We rant about the false concept of endless summer and wonder about the connection between one’s elemental constitution or personality and the season in which they tend to thrive. We highlight the distinction between climate and weather and discuss the power in being able to dif...

Jun 23, 202353 minSeason 2Ep. 9

Conscious Consumerism: Clothing Labels

This episode is part II in a mini-series on conscious consumerism. Today we’re discussing ethical and ecological clothing labels, the basics of fabric production, and how our shopping choices relate to the health of our planet and its beings. We talk through the meaning behind the following clothing labels and production certifications: Organic Fair Trade Certified™ Regenerative Organic Certified® OEKO-TEX® Certified – STANDARD 100 and MADE IN GREEN Global Organic Textile Standard (GOTS) Certifi...

Jun 16, 20231 hr 19 minSeason 2Ep. 8

Conscious Consumerism: Food Labels

This episode is part I in a mini-series on conscious consumerism. Today we’re discussing food labels, agricultural practices, and how our choices at the grocery store relate to the health of our planet and its beings. We talk through the meaning behind the following food labels and agricultural certifications: Non-GMO USDA Organic Real Organic Project Regenerative Organic Certified Certified Regenerative (A Greener World) We also break down the many descriptors used for both beef products and eg...

Jun 09, 202358 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Changing the Conversation on Climate Change

Today we’re breaking down a few basic concepts in the discussion on climate change. We talk through terminology that’s common but sometimes misunderstood including global warming, greenhouse gasses, fossil fuels, carbon emissions, and carbon sequestration. In previous episodes, you’ve heard the etymology of “regeneration” and “sustainability.” Today we bring the root of the word “conservation” into the conversation, which delivers an interesting depth to what might otherwise be a pretty heavy to...

Jun 02, 20231 hr 9 minSeason 2Ep. 6

Cultural Trajectory in a Time of Crisis

Join us for a wandering conversation on anarcho-primitivism! If you’ve never heard of this — yes, it’s exactly what it sounds like: a movement that fuses anarchy with a primitive lifestyle. This ethics-driven framework serves as a critique of current economic and political systems. In this episode, we’re questioning whether it’s actually possible to live in deep relationship with Nature and fully adhere to the Wise Earth paradigm (discussed at length in recent episodes) in the context of modern ...

May 26, 20231 hr 11 minSeason 2Ep. 5

Exploring German New Medicine

Today we’re taking another deep dive into a framework that supports viewing the world as unbroken. This healing paradigm, called German New Medicine (GNM), combines the scientific and Wise Earth traditions we discussed a couple episodes ago. Like any paradigm, GNM is a way of seeing things. In particular, this system serves as a lens through which the human body can be understood from a biological and evolutionary perspective. It is neither a healing modality nor a means for fixing problems. It ...

May 19, 202359 minSeason 2Ep. 4

Anchor New Beliefs to Adopt a New Paradigm

Simply wanting to adopt a new mindset is not powerful enough of a technique to change your mental rules. In this episode, we’re using presuppositions from the neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) model to talk through how to adopt new beliefs. Neuroplasticity explains the brain’s ability to rewire itself through experience. Flexibility in our neural pathways effects changes in thinking and behavioral patterns and can have a sustainable impact on our mental health and emotional well-being. If you w...

May 12, 202346 minSeason 2Ep. 3

Paradigms of Healing

As a follow-up to our previous episode on medicine, we zoomed out to look at the frameworks provided by three major healing paradigms. These medical- or health-based traditions gave rise to the tools, medicines, and modalities we’re familiar with today, but what we’re focusing on here is how they also provide different lenses through which we as individuals view the world. This discussion revolves around how our mindset informs the ways we see our own personal wellbeing, yet its implications ove...

May 05, 20231 hr 15 minSeason 2Ep. 2

What Is Medicine?

Welcome to the first episode of Season 2 of The Wandering Below: Messages of Healing for an Unbroken World. With this season’s focus being on what we mean by “healing” and “unbroken,” the question “what is medicine?” is really just a starting point for a much broader conversation – and truthfully this episode barely scratches the surface of all there is to explore on the subject. Join us as we talk through the etymology of “medicine” and “health,” the four bodies or levels of being, and the seve...

Apr 28, 20231 hr 13 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Season 2 Trailer

There’s plenty of evidence suggesting our world is broken. There’s an endless supply of stories circulating about how society is fragmented and the environment is being destroyed. If we tune into the narratives currently firing across the collective, it’s natural to experience a sense of hopelessness. However, when we encounter even an ounce of inertia beyond the despair, it reveals to us a request for our participation. Nature reminds us that we are not the problem, but rather that challenges a...

Apr 21, 20233 min

Connecting With the Energetics of the Season: Spring 2023

Welcome to the final episode of Season 1! We’re back with another seasonal check-in as spring is in the midst of unfurling. In this conversation, we chat about: Precision of language and reframing “I have to” as “I get to” How gratitude isn’t a forced sense of positivity but rather an invisible spirit that breaks barriers and encourages flowers to bloom Spring being the time when potential energy is activated and transformed into kinetic energy Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) associations wit...

Apr 14, 202345 minSeason 1Ep. 10

Surviving Versus Thriving in Your Environment

This was an emotional episode. We talked about surviving and thriving, immigration and welcoming, grief and gratitude, place-based identity and nourishment, sankofa and remembrance, ancestors and energetic codes, and what it’s like being a bridge between the past and the future. We opened with a bit of background on the topic that inspired this conversation: the environments in human design. From there, we allowed it to flow freely to see where we landed. As usual, we wound up wondering and wand...

Apr 07, 202353 minSeason 1Ep. 9

On Safety: Well-Being, Fear and Fighting, and the Human Design Spleen

In this episode we share the etymology of “safety” and “protection,” discuss how a sense of safety starts from within while the ability to protect requires the development of certain skills, and explore how the Human Design splenic center relates to all of it. As humans, we have animal bodies and conscious minds. Our reality revolves around both survival-based instincts and interpersonal relationships. We have biological on/off switches that tell us when there’s a threat in front of us and when ...

Mar 31, 20231 hr 12 minSeason 1Ep. 8

Coping With Growth

Today we’re chatting about growth, eldering, and charged language. The Wandering Below is a collection of our raw conversations – and sometimes that includes calling each other out in love. We push each other’s views on growing, decomposing, and identifying what’s truly valuable. As much as we might not want to think about it, there are fewer elders in our world now than ever before. Maybe that’s why we hold innovation in such high regard – and even why something being held in “high” regard is c...

Mar 24, 202357 minSeason 1Ep. 7

Winter Solstice Ritual & Seasonal Check-In

Today we’re reviewing seasonal energetics, sharing the script from our 2022 winter solstice ceremony, and checking in with where we’re at in this period of hibernation. We’re complex humans in simple animal bodies after all. Winter’s darkness invites celebration. Engaging in ritual during this time keeps us grounded throughout our journey along the internal, spiritual spiral we travel upon during the season of emptiness. In this episode, we reflect on how winter has flowed so effortlessly for us...

Mar 17, 202353 minSeason 1Ep. 6
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