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Today we spend time working through David and Tim’s stack of good news articles. State senators who blocked the process to prevent abortion bill from passing, may get to keep their positions. Gallup poll shows a 7% drop for support of homosexuality. Individual Methodist churches are pulling away from the liberal policies of the denomination. A 12-year- old girl graduates from college after breaking away from social media. All of this and more, today on Good News Friday! 

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Rick Green

Welcome to WallBuilders, we're the intersection of faith and the culture always looking at the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical and constitutional perspective. My name is Rick Green I'm a former Texas legislator and America's constitution coach. And I'm here with David Barton. David is America's premier historian.

He's our founder at WallBuilders, a mentor of mine and a great teacher to millions of people who have been able to learn so much about the founding fathers, the Constitution and the declaration from him. Tim Barton, as well. If you haven't had Tim speak at your church or event in your community, you ought to do that. You ought to get to WallBuilders.com today and book him, absolutely amazing stuff you've never heard before. The truth about so much that happened in American history.

And he brings it, oh my goodness, with fire. Good stuff. Anyway, Tim is our national speaker and pastor, he's president of WallBuilders. And all three of us just want to thank you for listening today. We appreciate you being a part of the WallBuilders live family for not only listening, but sharing the program, for donating at WallBuildersLive.com . Help us get that truth out there. Help us share good news with folks. I love good news

Fridays. That's what today's all about is just getting to as many good news stories as we possibly can. So thanks so much for what you're doing out there as a listener to share the program and educate and equip and inspire as many people in your community as possible to help us save this constitutional republic. Alright, guys, let's dive into that good news. First piece of good news is going to come from David Barton. David, where we're going first today, bud.

David Barton

Well, Rick, let's go to Pacific Northwest, and up in Pacific Northwest, a story, really have already covered it two or three times, I think, but it dealt with the 13 Republican senators up there who were blocking a really radical pro abortion bill by Democrats and the pro abortion bill by Democrats would have allowed girls as young as 10 years old to have an abortion without

notifying parents. And there was also, the way it was interpreted, if the child had been a victim of child abuse, child rape, the molester would be able to take the child to get an abortion without the parents knowing that as well. So it really was just an egregiously bad bill. There was another bill where they're trying to amend the state constitution, so that you have abortion on demand for any reason, essentially, for

whatever cause. And there's no You know, David, I was curious, I haven't had a chance to look limits of any kind on abortion. So Republicans back on May, first week of May, I think it was May the 3rd, maybe, they walked out. And when they walked out of the Senate, 13 of them walked out, that broke the quorum, which is the majority, so they don't have a majority of senators to meet. And if you don't have a majority, if you don't have a quorum, then you can't do business in the Senate.

So what it did was essentially shut down the Senate. And it means that these really bad bills can't go forward at all. So talked about them, I don't know, two or three earlier times. And it's really, I mean, these guys really put everything on the line. Because last election, Oregon passed a constitutional amendment that said, if any legislator has 10 days of unexcused absences, then there's economic penalties as well as they can't run for

office again. So when these guys walked out back, first week of May, which you know, now we're four or five, six weeks into this, they gave up their careers, essentially. They walked off, they lost the money that goes with being a legislator, all that because this was... they just were willing to stand for this issue. They've now returned, and

they're back. And that's because the Democrats have agreed to drop several the really radical provisions, while Oregon is still pro abortion, they're dropping the provision of the bill that would remove the parental rights. And so now, if a child 15, or under wants an abortion, or transgender treatment, or anything about hormone therapy, or anything else, they have to let the parents know, which is... that's what they were after. This is

just going too far too low. [I] understand it's a liberal state, but this is too far. And so that's out and the Democrats agreed to drop the constitutional amendment to give abortion for any cause any reason, unlimited abortion resolution, so it really is a really, really good deal. And by the way, along with that the Democrats also agreed to remove a section that would have given taxpayer funded abortion on colleges to pay for abortions on colleges. So that's another

really bad measure. So kudos to these Republicans. They may have given up their career, we'll see. I was talking to some people in Oregon a week or two ago. And they said, well, it was not really clear whether the constitutional amendment was to go into effect this election or the next election. And that still has yet to be determined. So I guess there's a possibility these guys might come back next

time. It depends on what the legal finding is on when the bill goes into effect, but they didn't know that when they walked out and so to their credit, they were willing to give up their career and the income that went with it in order to do this to protect kids and the pro life position, make it as far as they could make it in the state of Oregon, which that's really good. And I just commend them for their courage, and I commend them for staying

out. And, of course, they got beat up by the paper, and they got beat up by all sorts of people in the state just, you know, harping on them and just giving them flak, but they did the right thing. And as a result, this bill, while it's still a bad bill, it's not nearly as horrific as it was. So congratulations to those Oregon Republicans. Good for them.

at what part of the state they live in, but I'm guessing Oregon's another one of these states where Portland drives the... it's the most of the population, so it really drives the legislative agenda. And these are probably some senators from some of the more rural areas with some common sense and It really is weird in these states like that, Rick, that, biblical values you know, basically, Chicago

runs all of Illinois. And yet if you get down in Southern Illinois, in the farm country down there, the people down there, you know, that's more conservative than, I don't know, Arkansas, or Oklahoma or parts of Texas. And the same with when you get up into Washington state. If you get outside of the SeaTac area, Seattle Tacoma. Seattle Tacoma is 55% of the state's population. And it's just... it only exists along that I-5 corridor. So it's just a you know, a few miles wide, so

to speak. And so you might have 80% of the land area of the state all the way over in Spokane. And over in that Clarkston, Lewiston area. They're all super conservative. They're as conservative as any red state in the United States. But they're outnumbered 55-45. And the same in Oregon, when you throw Portland in and Eugene and things like that. So there are a lot of conservatives in Oregon.

And you know, it's interesting when we were up there a couple weeks ago, it's like nobody ever comes up there to see them or work with them or anything, because it's just such a liberal state on the outside that nobody comes up and spends time with them. And so even as we got up there, and we were doing some meetings in churches and groups are coming together, and there were some Republican groups and others that were showing up, it was like, an injection in their

arm. It's like they don't ever get anybody coming up there to help them with anything. And they got really enthused and energetic. And I think there's enough there to be able to do something. They might not be able to overcome Portland or Seattle, or, you know, the big cities like that. But my goodness, there's some good people up there, there's no question.

Rick Green

Yeah, I'm wondering, this is totally off topic for good news Friday, guys, but I just love planting this seed. I think we need to think outside the box. And some of these states need to just split, right in half and have Let's go to a hundred states instead of 50 states, smaller republics, so that they can be crazy if they want, the rest of Washington, or same with Oregon, split up, or

the greater Idaho movement. I know that changes the Senate, you end up with 200 senators in Washington and all that, but boy, it'd be a whole lot better on all those folks, both sides, right, the left leaning people can make their state as crazy as they want. And then the more conservative rational folks can have a place where they want to raise their kids. And, man, I just think of that when I think of Oregon, when I think of

Washington. There's a lot of states like that, that even Chicago and Illinois, in the same way. I wonder what the Founding Fathers would have said to that, because we hadn't done that since, what? West Virginia? I guess that's the last time that we had a state come out of another state? Maybe? I don't know, I don't... I may not have that right, in terms of which one it was. But I'd love to see more of that. Smaller little republics, I think would be good.

David Barton

the counties up there are trying to annex themselves to Idaho, for example, not just become a new state. And so even the legal process on how to do that, and how to split and getting the approval of the legislature and etc. It's a pretty complicated

thing. But it's interesting, Rick, you say that, because historically, when you go back, so many of those other states before, they were free states, and what the Democrats were doing, who were pro slavery at the time, they were trying to get the pro slavery part of those free states to become a separate state, so they can pick up two pro slavery votes in the Senate. So it's exactly the opposite of what we're talking

about now. Because if you could get, say, an Eastern Washington split from Western Washington, you added two more votes to the Senate, but they would be two conservative votes because they come from the conservative part of the state. So it would pretty much make Oregon or Washington or whatever, just a, almost a no show, they wouldn't have any impact at all in national elections, because they'd cancel each other, which is better than what it is now where they are liberal states because of those

big cities. So it's happened before in that sense, but earlier, it was the, kind of the wacky side, the pro slavery side that was trying to get the states to split so that they can have more pro slavery votes in the Senate. Although, as you mentioned, West Virginia did split from Virginia in 1863 in the middle of the Civil War, so that they can become a free state as opposed to Virginia being a slaves said at that point in time, but it's an

interesting option. And they were... they literally were talking about those options and exploring and how do you do it. And it looks like it's a really hard, long convoluted process today. But we'll see what happens. But they're certainly

Rick Green

Yeah, I love to hear that just, you know, because thinking that way, Rick. we're at kind of that pivot point in history where people are looking for solutions. They realize how, you know, and we don't want a national divorce, we don't want to split up, we want to find a way to keep this thing together. And those are the kind of outside the box solutions that aren't totally outside the box. I mean, the Constitution, you know, allow

for that to happen. It's just, you got to have legislative approval of each state that the boundaries would touch and also have congressional approval. So you're right, it's some big steps. Alright, Tim, we made you wait almost halfway through the program before you got to share some good news. What's your first piece of good news today?

Tim Barton

Well, this one is going to be actually, Rick it's a poll you sent me earlier. You're like, guys look at this, we need to do it for good news. And I was like, okay, let's do it for good news. This is a poll that was put out by Gallup. And it's identifying the trend. Apparently, every May, they do a poll, it's values and beliefs.

And last year was a record high for Americans supporting the homosexual agenda, gay marriage, etc. And this year, there's been a 7% decrease, which is the largest drop, pretty much ever in Gallup polling, in the support for homosexuality in general, but specifically, of individuals that find it to be a morally acceptable thing, where they say this is a morally good or morally relative thing. Now, still the majority of Americans definitely view homosexuality in

a positive light. 63% of Americans still think that there's nothing wrong with gay

or lesbian relations. But it's super interesting that, as we've seen over the last several months, whether it be with Bud Light, whether it be with Target, with some of these different companies that have come out promoting, supporting, and, of course, in June, when it felt like all of these major companies were promoting this so much, it's really fascinating to see that Americans are coming to the place that after last year having an all time high, they're saying, you know, we're kind of

tired of you guys forcing this down our throat. Again, the majority of Americans still support this, but the fact that this is the largest drop off they have ever seen, and it comes this year, I think, for so long, and for so long being relative that the Gallup polling identified that it wasn't until 2011, when Americans... a majority of Americans first said that gay and lesbian relationships, the LGBTQ+ agenda

was morally acceptable. So up until then, the majority of Americans still recognize that's really not the best kind of relationships, that's not the right kind of relationship, it's not the way it should go. Since 2011, the majority of Americans have identified that way, up to last year being an all time

high. But guys, I just think it's super interesting that when we saw an all out push in this transgender movement, when there's just so much in your face... and maybe even since COVID, when more and more people are waking up. And you know, the fact again, last year was an all time high, maybe people were starting to wake up but weren't really pushing back, yet. And then when you had this in your face nonsense that we had earlier this year, at that point, maybe there's people

saying, you know what? This is it... You've gone too far, this is the straw that broke the camel's back, we're not doing this anymore. And it does seem to be that people are saying, we don't want this kind of stuff pushed on our kids. We don't want this pushed in our culture. It's not yet back to the majority of the Americans, majority of culture saying we don't want this. But this is the biggest drop, the biggest change that Gallup has ever seen in their polling. And that is very

encouraging. What this could be for culture, hopefully beginning to wake up to some of what has become acceptable, that should not be morally acceptable.

Rick Green

Well, we've talked about it on other issues too where, you know, sometimes God just gives you so much quail that it's coming out your nostrils, you're just sick of it. And I think the pain from the whole transgender thing and what they're doing with the kids and the pain is great enough that it's starting to change hearts. And I would... This is totally guess, I don't know

this. But I would guess that if you look at the numbers that are changing in the polling, those are probably people that were kind of sitting it out. In other words, they were just on the sidelines, they weren't really invested on one side or the other. They were just saying, yeah, I'm okay with everything. Just let everybody love everybody. And now all of a sudden, they're going I can't sit on the sidelines, this is affecting my children too.

Tim Barton

Well, what's interesting about the Gallup polling, what's been released to this point is they don't have a great breakdown of ages and demographics and whether, you know, whether it be the gender, the ethnicity, whatever else. There's not a great breakdown, there is some breakdown, but what is available from their data shows that the biggest change... there was a 10% change in the category that was non whites. Non whites are the ones that had the biggest change, saying we don't want this

anymore. which is also seems to be very telling, because for so much of these woke issues, it by and large, oftentimes seems to be these white college kids, you know, that... or sometimes these Karen moms, so to speak, but these very liberal ladies, or these very liberal white kids that are promoting this agenda. When we were even looking back at some of the Black Lives Matter protest, there was as much, if not more, Antifa violence from white kids than there were from anybody else in

some of these protests. And it's just... it's kind of interesting, that the people who have embraced the radical wokeism the most is not necessarily sometimes the community that's put forward in some of these issues. And so the fact that 10%, the biggest swing, came from what Gallup identified as non whites is kind of interesting, in this context. And, Rick, I know we need to go to break so we can pick up the rest after break.

Rick Green

Quick break, we'll be right back. We've got more good news for you folks, stay with us, you're listening to WallBuilders.

Tim Barton

Hi, Friends, this is Tim Barton of WallBuilders. This is a time when most Americans don’t know much about American history or even heroes of the faith. And I know oftentimes we’re parents, we’re trying to find good content for our kids to read. And if you remember back to the Bible to the book of Hebrews, it has the faith hall of fame where they outline the leaders of faith that had gone

before them. Well, this is something that as Americans, we really want to go back and outline some of these heroes not just of American history, but heroes of Christianity in our faith as well. I want to let you know about some biographical sketches we have available on our website. One is called the courageous leaders collection.

And this collection includes people like Abigail Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Francis Scott Key, George Washington Carver, Susanna Wesley, even the Wright brothers, and there’s a second collection called Heroes of history. And this collection, you’ll read about people like Benjamin Franklin, or Christopher Columbus, Daniel Boone, George Washington, Harriet Tubman, friends, the list goes on and on. This is a great collection for your young person to have and read into providential view of American

and Christian history. This is available WallBuilders.com. That’s www.WallBuilders.com .

Rick Green

Welcome back to WallBuilders. Thanks for staying with us on this good news Friday. And we've got a lot more good news to get to, but we've used up over half the program. So we'll see if we can get at least two more in before we're done. David, you're next man. What's up.

David Barton

This is another issue we've talked about from

Rick Green

David, do you remember off the top of your time to time. And here it is again, and it deals with the Methodist Church. And the Methodist Church, as a denomination has been going more and more liberal. So we've talked about they've gotten into this position of what they're taking with not particularly, for Israel, and they tend to lean pro abortion, and LGBTQIA+ and things like that. And as a result, there's a lot of Methodist churches that have been leaving the denomination.

And so I've got one here from Alabama. And in Alabama, this first part says that another 132 United Methodist churches disaffiliated, leaving the north Alabama conference of the denomination. So just in North Alabama, just north Alabama, 132 United Methodist churches have left the denomination. And then I see further in the article, it says, and earlier in the week, the Alabama and West Florida conference finalized the disaffiliation of 193 more

churches. So just basically in that Alabama thing you're looking at, what is it, 350 churches may be going out? So there's a lot of churches, even in a fairly liberal denomination, that aren't really wanting to be liberal. And it kind of maybe goes to the poll that Tim was talking about before the break where, we're seeing a change in the way the country is viewing some of these things, and it doesn't have the support it had a few years ago.

And then I pick up this article that gives the overall numbers in the last few years here, and it says 5000 churches have bolted the Methodist church over the LGBT debate. So in total over that period of time, 5000 churches have said, no you've taken a non biblical stand, and we're not going to be part of this denomination if you're going that much against the scriptures. So it's a total of 5000 United Methodist churches

that have left. Now, a bunch of them have gone into a new Methodist denomination conservative, the global Methodist, and a lot of them haven't gone anywhere. They've just become independent as a result. But nonetheless, that's just another piece of good news, were that the people in the churches are actually holding to a biblical position and not willing to compromise that position. And I just think

that's really healthy. That's a healthy sign when the church is holding by the Bible as opposed to standing with the culture. And so, that's just great news out of Alabama and overall. And by the way, not to suggest that 5000 is the end of the Methodist denomination. They still have 25,000 that are part of the denomination. But there's no question that when you've lost one six of that denomination that's a fairly strong signal to the denomination of what they're thinking.

head? I know, we've had some good news stories on other denominations as well, because this is obviously a battle in, you know, almost every mainline Christian denomination. And I think, I know that... you know, there were different fights where people were splitting. And so I mean, this is pretty well cutting across most denominations. Are they actually leaving, like the Methodist have done here and just saying, we're

done? Because I remember even some fights over property, right, where they had some cases where they... who was going to get the church, who... the literal physical property and that sort of thing? And I guess I'm asking you a general question, do you see this as good across the board in other denominations as well? Even though we don't want to see people splitting, we don't want them to just go along with

sinful activity. So the good thing is that some in each of these denominations are standing.

David Barton

Well, you know what's really weird, Rick, and I don't have an explanation for this at all. But this has been a more liberal denomination for a few years. And there's this movement within it to become more conservative. But interestingly, in your more conservative denominations, they're fighting a movement within to become more liberal.

I've heard a lot of the Southern Baptists talking about this whole movement, they've got about going woke and moving into the woke direction and the Assembly of God churches, heard the same thing from a lot of their leaders that they're going really woke and leadership is moving in the wrong direction.

So it's kind of strange that in the kind of liberal denominations, we've seen a certain group within that coming more conservative, but you know, maybe it's a small group and things like Baptist and Assembly of God, you know, like this is 1/6 of the Methodist becoming more conservative, maybe it's only 1/6 of the Baptist, and Assembly of God becoming more

liberal, [I] don't know. But it's interesting to see it going both ways in this thing, so I guess maybe the minority is making the news here rather than the majority. But that's certainly what it seems to be in the case of looking at those denominations and others as well.

Rick Green

Yeah, yeah. All right, Tim, we got time for another one. What you got on your final piece of good news for the day?

Tim Barton

Well, guys, this is one that I got to admit, as I read this, I was impressed, then I was embarrassed, and then I was motivated and then disappointed in myself. This is a 12 year old girl...

Rick Green

Tim has had an emotional day. Did y'all hear that? Did y'all hear how many emotions Tim went through with this one story? I'm a little nervous for the audience. I'm a little nervous for me! I don't know what's coming. Okay, go ahead, brother.

Tim Barton

So a 12 year old girl graduated from college. And with a 4.0 GPA, all of this was done. Her parents say largely because they told her, don't be on social media do other things more productive. And she turned off social media, and all of a sudden became incredibly productive. Now there's way more to the story. The family...

Rick Green

Yeah, public service announcement, Tim Barton did not just announce that if you get off social media, you will graduate at 12. I just want to make sure that nobody misquotes you there, Right Wing Watch and all the left wing groups just waiting for us to say something. They're going to tell people you promised that, so.

Tim Barton

Correct. Yeah, I mean, if you started at 13, you can't graduate at 12. But...

Rick Green

That's the exemption. Yes.

Tim Barton

You know, other than that, it's pretty close. No, not... This is something that the young lady was remarkable from the very beginning, her parents bragged on her and what she was able to accomplish. The family lives in Palmdale, California. The mom and dad immigrated, the dad from Scotland, the mom from Mexico, they got together, they came to America, because they knew this was a place where there'd be opportunity for them to better their lives, to raise their

kids, having a better life. When they had their oldest daughter, now they have a three year old as well, when they had their first daughter, she... very quickly they saw she was very gifted. When she was four years old she was already playing Mozart, on piano with no lessons. She watched some videos on her iPad. And then she went and sat down at the piano and began to do it. And they're like, this seems impressive.

This doesn't seem normal. She would watch somebody do a painting and she would just sit down and she would replicate drawing the painting, whatever it was, and so they thought, okay, this is special. She's five years old. They go to the public school, and the public school, didn't know what to do with her. She was really talented. They didn't have a program. So the parents then take her to a charter school. They leave her there for a couple years and there's just not... they're not finding to

productivity they wanted. Their daughter's bored, it's not really working, so the parents decide, okay, we're going to homeschool her now. So they homeschool her, and part of homeschooling, they say we're going to do work for six hours a day. And then we, you know, go play, go hike outdoors, even video games, other things. For six hours a day, she does this. And, in 2020, they found out there was a local community college where they could do a dual enrollment program. She

gets on in 2020. And at that point, she's 10 years old, I believe, which is just crazy, taking college courses, does really well. They decided, hey, you know, she can start taking 3, 4, 5 courses a semester, in addition to her normal homeschool work. But even with the college courses, her daily homeschool, she was only doing it six hours a day. Well, come to present time. She graduated

with an associate's degree. And her parents credits that she has a cell phone and it's very restricted what she can use, but she can make call, she can send text messages, but no social media. And the parents said, look, we think social media is keeping kids lazy. It's taking up so much time of their day. For her, we tell her that during that time, she should go read a book, go play outside, do

something productive. And that's where I was so challenged, like man, I totally spend time on social media that I could be way more productive reading a book, going hiking outside, something, whatever it is, I am super impressed with his 12 year old girl. And kudos to these parents for recognizing the opportunities that homeschool provide. Only six hours a day, they're doing school, and what

they were able to accomplish. It reminded me of early American education, what they were pulling off in a short amount of time with a very high standard, but kudos to this family. And congratulations to this 12 year old girl graduating college with a 4.0 GPA.

Rick Green

Extraordinary, absolutely extraordinary. Good stuff, guys. Thanks for all the good news today. We've got more good news for you next week. So make sure you tune in on every Friday and get a little boost of encouragement to go into the weekend with. Thanks for listening today. You've been listening to WallBuilders.

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