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The Vergecast

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The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.
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Episodes

The grift and glory of the Enhanced Games

How far can we push the limits of the human body? At the Enhanced Games in Las Vegas, a few dozen athletes tried to find out, and The Verge's Victoria Song was there to watch. She tells us the story of the swimmers, weightlifters, and other athletes who competed, the intense training and drug regimens they underwent, and the complicated mix of pseudo-science and actual science behind the event. Then, she tells us where this project goes from here — because the Enhanced Games experiment is just b...

Jun 03, 202644 min

Nvidia just started a new chip war

Nvidia is betting that AI is going to change the way you use your computer — and with a new chip, the RTX Spark, it's hoping to ensure it powers that new-fangled AI machine. During a big week for the PC industry, with the Computex trade show and Microsoft's Build developer conference happening simultaneously, The Verge's Sean Hollister explains what's inside the Spark, why Nvidia is taking on Apple, Intel, AMD, and the rest of the chip industry, and whether the world's most valuable company has ...

Jun 02, 202627 min

Casey Neistat's guide to posting every day

David Pierce welcomes veteran YouTuber Casey Neistat to discuss the challenges and rewards of daily content creation as The VergeCast goes daily. Neistat shares insights into his early motivations for daily vlogging, the importance of building genuine audience relationships, and his philosophy on maintaining quality amidst high output. They delve into the complexities of sharing personal life online, the impact of algorithms on creativity, and practical advice for staying sane while consistently producing content in today's media landscape.

Jun 01, 202637 min

Jony Ive's funky Ferrari

The Vergecast hosts delve into the controversial Ferrari Luce, an electric vehicle designed by Jony Ive that defies traditional Ferrari aesthetics, sparking debate about brand identity and the future of EVs. They also explore widespread discontent with AI's integration into Google Search and YouTube's struggle with AI content labels, highlighting the tension between AI development and user experience. Finally, the discussion touches on the increasing prices of gaming consoles and devices, alongside Meta's "enshittification" strategy with new paid subscriptions.

May 29, 20261 hr 24 min

How clips ate the internet

It's now surprisingly easy to watch most of a movie without ever trying to, or to spend hours with a podcast without ever playing an episode. In the burgeoning clip economy, everything is being cut into bite-sized pieces and being blasted around the internet hoping to land in your feeds. The Verge's Mia Sato explains the machinery of how all this works, and wonders what it means for our social media experience. After that, The Verge's Victoria Song joins to discuss the Fitbit Air, the new $99 Go...

May 26, 20261 hr 11 min

The post-search Google era begins

Before we get into this week's tech news, we have some corporate news to discuss, and some very exciting Vergecast news to share. (If you have questions about either one, hit us up: vergecast@theverge.com or 866-VERGE11!) Then, Nilay and David get back into the weeds on all things Google I/O, and in particular the ways AI is changing the Google Search experience. When Gemini can find things for you, make things for you, even buy things for you, are you even searching anymore? Finally, in the lig...

May 22, 20261 hr 36 min

We react to Google I/O 2026: The Vergecast Livestream

Google I/O was, predictably, all about AI this year. And if it actually works, a lot of this stuff could be pretty useful! Immediately after the two hour long keynote (that contained approximately 190 total mentions of the terms "AI" and "Gemini") The Verge’s senior AI reporter Hayden Field and executive editor Jake Kastrenakes went live on YouTube with their reactions. Further reading: The 13 biggest announcements at Google I/O 2026 The 5 biggest changes coming to Gemini Google Search is gettin...

May 19, 202656 min

Everybody wants to rule the AI world

The Musk v. OpenAI trial continues, which means so do the allegations and leaks surrounding some of the most influential people in tech. Nilay and David recount the most interesting and entertaining moments from the courtroom this week, before digging into what we've learned about when Sam Altman was fired. After that, the hosts discuss OpenAI's apparent plans to build a phone, which seem utterly necessary and utterly doomed, along with the new Fitbit Air and a truly strange new home robot. Fina...

May 08, 20261 hr 36 min

What an AI-designed car looks like

The Vergecast dives into how AI is transforming the automotive industry, drastically speeding up car development from design to engineering, while also raising concerns about the future of human jobs and traditional artistry. The episode then pivots to a broader AI industry update, covering the intense competition between Claude Code and OpenAI's Codex, Anthropic's complex relationship with government contracts, and a critical look at OpenAI's public image. Finally, the discussion addresses the 'death' of Artificial General Intelligence as a singular event and questions whether recent tech layoffs are genuinely AI-driven or a result of pandemic overhiring.

May 05, 20261 hr 11 min

Elon Musk had a bad week in court

Elon Musk spent a lot of his week trying to explain how OpenAI wronged him — but mostly just seemed to annoy everyone else in the courtroom. Nilay and David discuss Musk's testimony in the OpenAI trial, and what it might mean for the trial going forward. After that, the Hype Desk gang recommends a couple of new things to watch, before the hosts chat about the week's new gadgets, including the Steam Controller and the dual-screen Zephyrus Duo laptop. Finally, in the lightning round, Brendan Carr ...

May 01, 20261 hr 49 min

Musk and Altman go to court

The Vergecast examines the contentious legal battle between Elon Musk and OpenAI, where Musk seeks to destabilize the company and humiliate Sam Altman, with Liz Lopatto breaking down the motivations and potential consequences for the broader AI ecosystem. Later, Sean Hollister highlights Framework's impressive new Laptop Pro, which finally offers a premium, upgradable experience comparable to a MacBook Pro, alongside an innovative couch keyboard. The episode concludes with a discussion on the resurgence of small, powerful ARM-based laptops, prompted by a hotline question about the Surface Go.

Apr 28, 20261 hr 20 min

AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

Now that we've had a few days to digest the Apple CEO succession news, Nilay and David get some help from Daring Fireball's John Gruber to discuss Tim Cook's legacy, the potential for change under John Ternus, and whether the Touch Bar actually could have been great. Then, Nilay and David react to some breaking news: Microsoft is going back to the Xbox. And everything is an Xbox now. Finally, in the lightning round, we have a round of Brendan Carr is a Dummy, a very 2026 new microphone, a BMW we...

Apr 24, 20261 hr 38 min

The Vergecast Vergecast, 2026 edition

We get a lot of questions about how we make The Vergecast. And why we make The Vergecast. And how we make money, and journalism, and everything. So every once in a while, we try to answer those questions! In this episode, David and Nilay are joined by The Verge's publisher, Helen Havlak, to talk about video podcasts, ads, subscriptions, Nilay's jackets, and much more. Curious about those video podcasts we discussed? Check us out on YouTube. Jealous of those Verge subscriptions we discussed? Subs...

Apr 21, 20261 hr 24 min

Apple’s got a new CEO: The Vergecast Livestream

For the first time in 15 years, Apple is getting a new CEO. Tim Cook is stepping down, and John Ternus is taking the biggest job at one of the biggest companies in the world. News this big can only mean one thing: emergency Vergecast! Nilay and David broke down the news, their immediate reactions, and what they think might be in store for Apple going forward. To watch our livestreams as they stream live, check us out on YouTube. Subscribe to The Verge for unlimited access to theverge.com , subsc...

Apr 20, 202640 min

The 'AI is inevitable' trap

The AI vibes continue to find all-time lows. David and Nilay open the show by talking through the absurd Allbirds pivot to AI, the attacks on Sam Altman, and the increasing divide between what AI companies say is inevitable and what people actually want. Then, the Hype Desk crew talks Coachella and RAMageddon, before David and Nilay catch up on the Live Nation-Ticketmaster monopoly suit and the increasing price of everything. In the lightning round, it's time for Brendan Carr is a dummy, satelli...

Apr 17, 20261 hr 32 min

Ben McKenzie vs. crypto

Actor Ben McKenzie exposes the flaws and fraudulent nature of cryptocurrency in his documentary "Everyone Is Lying to You for Money," highlighting its use in gambling and crime. The episode then features Victoria Song, who shares her personal descent into data obsession while testing continuous glucose monitors, revealing their potential for disordered eating and the lack of medical consensus for non-diabetic use. Finally, the hosts tackle a listener's question about why modern gadgets lack design diversity.

Apr 14, 20261 hr 20 min

Fear and loathing at OpenAI

In a week filled with important news about important people, David and Nilay start the show with the biggest news of all: their silly tech projects. After some updates on iMac repurposing and vibe-coded productivity tools, the hosts turn to the state of OpenAI, and the big story from The New Yorker about whether we should trust CEO Sam Altman with the future of AI. After that, it's time for the lightning round, with the latest Brendan Carr is a Dummy shenanigans, and the New York Times' latest a...

Apr 10, 20261 hr 24 min

The case for banning cookie banners

Cookie banners — those pop-ups that appear on practically every webpage demanding you accept their tracking systems — are one of the most consistent low-grade annoyances of life online. But Kate Klonick, a professor and writer, argues they're actually much worse than that, and the only plausible solution is to get rid of them entirely. After that, The Verge's Allison Johnson tells us about her AI-enhanced Google Maps experience, and why the new Ask Maps feature has the potential to be both incre...

Apr 07, 20261 hr 18 min

Apple's best product ever

This episode of The Vergecast dives into ranking Apple's 50 best products, with hosts David and Nilay sharing their top picks against audience votes, sparking lively debate. The discussion also covers the AI industry's shift towards enterprise software, examining OpenAI's strategic decisions, Microsoft's "superintelligence" definition, and the ongoing dissonance between AI's grand promises and its practical applications. Additionally, the show introduces a new segment called "The Hype Desk" and rounds out with lightning-round topics including FCC drama, the evolving Fediverse, and the increasing costs of electronics.

Apr 03, 20261 hr 45 min

Apple at 50: the good and the bad

It's Apple 50 week, so we've got an Apple-filled podcast. First, longtime Apple journalist Jason Snell joins the show to talk about the state of the company as a hardware maker, a software maker, a force for good in the world, and more. Then, blogger and entrepreneur Anil Dash explains why he's worried about the rise of video podcasts, and the role Apple could play to make it better. Finally, The Verge's Allison Johnson helps answer a question on the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email ...

Mar 31, 20261 hr 29 min

Meta's court losses could be just the beginning

We start with some important business: Nilay has a flight to catch, and is very worried he won't catch it. Also, it's Apple's 50th anniversary next week, and we're going to spend the week debating which Apple products are the best Apple products. (Head to the ad-free Vergecast feed to hear our selection show!) But mostly, this episode is about social media. In two key trials this week, juries found social platforms liable not for the content they display but for the actual structure and features...

Mar 27, 20261 hr 41 min

Welp, I bought an iPhone again

David is bored with his iPhone. Over the last few months, he has been testing every other phone he could get his hands on, from the Pixel to the Razr to the Unihertz Titan. And at the end of it all... David bought another iPhone. The Verge's Allison Johnson joins the show to recount some of her own phone-testing experiences, to litigate the quality of foldable and flippable phones, to debate Android vs. iOS, and ultimately to help David decide whether he actually bought the right phone. After al...

Mar 24, 202659 min

Why people really hate AI

David and Nilay start the show by exploring the increasing disconnect between the people who make AI products, and the people who keep saying they don't want them. (Or, at least, don't want to pay for them.) The AI industry is starting to retrench to a business-first approach, because there's simply no killer app for it yet. Speaking of no killer apps! Allison Johnson then joins the show to talk about the shockingly short life of the Samsung TriFold, and her bizarre journey to try and review the...

Mar 20, 20261 hr 46 min

The future of code is exciting and terrifying

A new era of software development is upon us. Career coders are no longer writing code, but rather managing teams of agents that do the work on their behalf. You can Claude Code your way through seemingly just about any problem. So what does that mean for the software we use, and the people who make it? Paul Ford, a writer and technologist who both writes about code and manages a team of coders, joins the show to explain his somewhat conflicted excitement about the new crop of AI tools, and his ...

Mar 17, 20261 hr 7 min

The MacBook Neo's a winner

David and Nilay bought new computers this week, as the MacBook Neo turned out to be a surprisingly great cheap Apple laptop. The hosts discuss their experiences with the machines, from the processor to the keyboard to the mess that is MacOS Tahoe. After that, they talk about the future of Xbox, Project Helix, and what it might mean for every gaming PC to become an Xbox... and for the Xbox to become a gaming PC. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, the latest on...

Mar 15, 20261 hr 49 min

The twist in the Ticketmaster antitrust fight

Last week, it appeared the US Department of Justice was off to a strong start in its antitrust case against Live Nation Ticketmaster. Then, this week, the two sides surprised everyone by settling. The Verge's Lauren Feiner joins the show to explain the stakes of the case, the facts of the settlement, and why things aren’t entirely over just yet. Then, The Verge’s Hayden Field catches us up on what’s happening between Anthropic, OpenAI, and the Department of Defense. OpenAI got the contract, but ...

Mar 10, 20261 hr 10 min

Version History: Furby

In 1997, David Hampton and Caleb Chung took one look at a Tamagotchi and decided they could bring the virtual pet craze into the real world. Their robotic companion, Furby, packed a bunch of advanced technology into a small, adorable, often annoying package. But for all the irritation it caused (Furby famously had no on-off switch) there was a surprising amount of thoughtful philosophy in its design. The Verge’s Vee Song, Sean Hollister and host David Pierce are joined by Coco the Furby to discu...

Mar 08, 20261 hr 15 min

This phone starts fires on purpose

While most phone makers work hard to ensure their products don’t start fires, Oukitel made a phone that starts fires on purpose. This week on The Vergecast, Dominic Preston joins Editor-in-Chief Nilay Patel to wrap up all the weird and wonderful phones he and the team saw at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. Then, Sean Hollister takes us through Google and Epic’s enemies-to-lovers saga: A secret $800 million deal, a non-disparagement agreement, and something about the metaverse for some reason...

Mar 06, 20261 hr 44 min

MacBook Neo, iPhone 17e, and iPad Air: The Vergecast Livestream

Apple released a bunch of new iPhones, iPads, Macs, and Studio Displays this week. The Verge’s Nilay Patel and David Pierce tried them all this morning, and are back to share their thoughts live. Further reading: All the news about Apple’s MacBook Neo, iPhone 17E, and more Subscribe to The Verge for unlimited access to theverge.com , subscriber-exclusive newsletters, and our ad-free podcast feed .We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to vergecast@theverge.com or call us at ...

Mar 04, 20261 hr

The 6G, modular, robot phones of the future

Most mainstream phone options are kind of the same, year in and year out — but that doesn’t mean there’s no innovation to be found. The Verge’s Allison Johnson is at Mobile World Congress, and joins the show to report on all the modular phones, robot phones, small phones, big phones, and (alas) 6G phones set to hit the market this year. After that, The Verge’s Jess Weatherbed explains the phenomenon of the gadget strap, and makes the case that they’re an increasingly useful accessory as our phon...

Mar 03, 20261 hr 14 min
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