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She is an intuitive healer and channel who works with souls all over the world on their spiritual, mental, and emotional growth. Formerly a strategist in advertising, Courtney's 2016 spiritual awakening saw her jump off the corporate ladder and into the space of spirits and the supernatural influences in our lives. Her specialty is in opening up the self to the soul and spirit can, so the soul and spirit can shine through.
And her channeled books written with the help of her guys allow her to share all of the wisdom she has been taught by her spirit. Friends, and I just wanna welcome Courtney, and just first start by sharing, I ran into Courtney. Probably about five or six years ago. It's been quite a while. And I was just embarking, I was like, maybe in my first year of animal communication, I heard her on Natalie Walton's, um, soul Shine Astrology podcast and an interview on that podcast.
And I just thought, I've got to connect with her because I had such a unique way of collaborating with my spirit team that nobody at that time really spoke about or I understood. And so I almost at times really doubted what I was experiencing and wasn't, and wasn't really sure if it was even real half the time, but I knew it was making an impact. So I was just doing it and the animals were, were responding.
And when I reached out to Courtney for a session, she wrote back and said, Um, great, but I actually wanna bargain with you. Can you work with my dog, Toby? And I was just about hit the floor thinking, oh my God, this girl wants to me to work with her dog. And I'm like, this is so amazing. And, and um, one of the, I guess DeeDee's Krishna, um, that Courtney channels is, is Krishna. And, um, she was so sure that he was saying that we needed to work together.
And so we started on a journey and for about a year where we just went back and forth with sessions between, um, myself, you, Krishna, Toby, uh, your dog at the time. And it was just such a neat experience and I'm just forever grateful because it gave me so much validation that somebody else. Connects with the spirit world the way that I did, which is as a channel and it wasn't talked about as much at that time. It's so prevalent now.
And so that's how Courtney I met and I'm just always grateful. She is wonderful. I'm so glad to have her here. And why don't you just start by sharing a little bit about your journey and your story and what brought you into the spirit world after being in the corporate world for
so long. Um, thank you so much for having me. First off, Ray. It's been, um, such a pleasure and an honor to grow with you. And I literally do feel like we've been growing together through this journey. And I think, you know, you were one of my first spiritual friends and it was really nice for me to have that connection as well because it. It can be a very isolating journey. So just to be able to share those experiences was actually really key for me at that time as well. So, um, thank you.
And to share a bit about my journey. It's been a wild one. Um, so I was in the corporate world, uh, as a, a strategist. So basically my job was to solve, um, problems for, um, big brands around the world. And that was a career that was very lucrative and I was very well respected in my role. And it was, um, um, something that I was really good at.
My, my dad was in marketing and radio, so I think it was just, I'd picked up a lot through my childhood, so it was kind of a very natural progression to go into that world. But I think there was a a lot to, in that I was running away from. A more heart-centered connection with something I'd chosen a very logical path. And, um, because I'd had, um, I guess you could say some spiritual gifts as a kid, and I was revealing a lot of strange things as a kid.
For instance, you know, I would see spirits walking down the hallway. My parents owned a a hundred year old mines cottage, and I would see these beings walking around the house. And um, and then I also had this really strange collection of protection, umlets. I had a tiki from New Zealand and a lucky rabbits foot, and I'd ask my grandmother, um, to get me a shrunken head. And I was only actually looking into it the other day because I'd, I'd done this.
I've been getting really into tarot lately and I'd, um, I was just asking questions of the Tara deck and. The Tara Deck had said to me, oh no, that's what I was asking about. Um, I've been really interested in doing a course. I actually always wanted to be an archeologist. And so I'd said to the Tara Deck, should I pursue a cult archeology as a more formal area of study?
And the answer that I actually got back from the Tara deck was that I should look into amulets instead and informally study amulets. And that's when I realized from my childhood that when I looked up all of these things I had in my collection, that they're actually all protection amulets. So I was this weirdo little six year old or something, cruising around with all these Mor beds.
But knew that you were somehow protecting yourself though.
Yeah. And um, I also had a really big connection with ancient Egypt, was obsessed with Egypt and mom and dad took me to a British museum exhibition and I dragged them around at a really young age telling them how we used everything that was featured in the exhibition. And so there was kind of the early signs that, that I was a weirdo. There was something else that was there for me. Um, yeah. But then there was an aspect of it that really scared me as well.
So I think I chose my career based on a need for success and achievement and that I also wanted to be as far away from the spirit world as I could, because every couple of years I would get these visitations, like through, through my adult life of, you know, spirits appearing. Um, standing by my bed or, you know, and it's, I'm a control freak. 100%. Happy to admit that I, I'm trying to release it. I say that tend
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like, yeah. Yes. I was at, at the time. I was like, see this, this is not, this is not what I want. I don't want these things turning up in my room. And it was, it was people who had passed on who were obviously looking for someone who could communicate or had that ability. And so I, and I just didn't want it. So I think I'd, I borrowed further and further into a career that was so logical, logically focused, no emotion to it whatsoever.
Um, And then basically I'd, I'd gotten my dream job, which was at, at a director level. And it's the kind of role that sets you up for life, as in, if I could have just stayed in it, I would've earned, you know, big bucks. And, but it was, I'd also had, you know, some health problems as well. I was getting panic attacks and jewels. My wife would say, you know, I think this job's gonna kill you unless you get out.
Like, it's definitely an industry that's very long hours and high stress and it definitely wears you down. So I ended up in this dream role and, um, I think everybody has this idea that when I get to this place, I will be happy, I will be fulfilled. And I've got goosebumps as I say this. Yeah. And then you get there and you're like, oh my God, this is empty. This is not what I thought it would be.
And so I'd gotten to this position where, I was like, everything should make sense for me now, this hole in my heart that I felt my whole life should feel fulfilled. And it, and it didn't. And it occurred at the same time as, um, my wife Jules got really, really unwell. And it basically, I, I couldn't work the long hours that I had been doing because, um, Jules needed me to be at home and I also couldn't take that high level of pressure mm-hmm. And stress.
And I thought, well, if I can't be a strategist anymore, cause it's, it's a very much, it's a kind of sell your soul type of role. Like, you're either all in or you're all out. You can't really have one foot in and one foot out. It's just, um, and I think that's why the money is so good's cuz you've gotta, you've gotta be willing to give up everything to do it.
Mm-hmm. And so I actually, I strategically thought if I'm, if I'm gonna work out what I'm gonna do, then maybe I should just start meditating because I. I felt like I couldn't rationally dig myself out of this problem that I had. Right. And so I started meditating and um, Jules was reminding me this morning, cuz she's like, you never tell all of your story. You just kind of skim out the top of it.
I've never heard all of these details either. And so I'm so, like, I've heard bits and pieces through other interviews, so I've never heard the whole thing. I didn't know Jules was so sick and, and, um, or that you had, I was gonna ask you if you got health problems from denying that aspect of yourself and continuing to pursue that path, you know, and the stress. But yeah. So this is great for me to hear more of your story.
Um, I, I think I'm extremely good at coping under pressure, but I've got a trauma background, so I think anyone with trauma tends to be able to drop into that space where they can function at extremely high levels of stress. Mm-hmm. And seem to, to, I think you drop into like an um, A detached
space. Yeah. Um, until you count anymore.
Yeah. Yeah. And so there was just so much going on in our lives that I thought maybe I'll just meditate. And it's like, it was so, so not a decision that I would make because I was so disconnected from my heart or spirituality at that point. And like, I've, I should say, I've always been able to channel, I've been able to channel since I did my reiki two course when I was in my teen years. Mm-hmm. But I, I never really called on it.
There was definitely a big block that I had around not wanting to go anywhere near it. So yeah. So I started meditating. I was down by the water. Um, as Jules reminded me this morning because I forget so many elements of my own story. And, um, she said that I, you know, I came home and that, um, that I'd said to her, there's someone else in my body. And Angela's the most gentle, beautiful human in the world. She's never freaks out. She's so calm.
And so I told her I had this other being in my body, and it's obviously at a time where we're undergoing like huge amounts of stress in our lives. And then, you know, your wife comes home and says, you know, I've, I've got something else talking to me.
And, and, um, yeah, that he, that this voice had said that, um, that basically we were, we were going to write a book together, but I should reverse a little bit because when this experience happened when I was meditating, I felt like a spiral activate through my body. Mm-hmm. Which I now know would be probably a Quin experience. Mm-hmm. I, I felt this entry of something else.
Um, I'd, I'd had a shower and looked down at my body and it was like I was looking at my body for the first time, um, which was really strange. I was having all these strange food cravings of things that I've never been attracted to eating. It was just, it was like, there was literally something else in there alongside me. Mm-hmm. And when my arms lit up, I just felt this urge to write.
And so I'd sat down and written what, eventually became the first five chapters of conversations with Krishna, which is the first book that I channeled. And, um, that day that we went and did that, I did this. And it was really different than anything else I'd ever channeled before. Um, It was all about the universe, and it was just very bizarre. And we'd gone to a friend's place that, that night for dinner, and he's an architect and she's a yoga instructor, uh, instructor.
And I said, can you just read this and tell me what you think? And she said, quote, this is Hindu cosmology. And I didn't really know what to say to that. Right. And anyway, that the next day, the, the sensation came through of needing to write again. And so I sat down and I said, you know, who am I speaking to? And I got Krishna. And so that began a relationship with Krishna that still, you know, is very much here to this day. And we, we've ended up channeled channeling.
Um, I've done three books with Krishna, one with isis, one with another spirit called a Cure. Um, but I, I'd never had a connection to Hinduism before. So Krishna is a Hindu. Um, I've obviously got a connection with ancient Egypt, but mm-hmm. Yeah, Krishna has been in my life ever since, maybe not so much inside my body anymore, but definitely
you learn some energetic boundaries, like, not in,
not while I'm in the shower. Yeah. Although I do have a lot of really great conversations with him when I'm on the toilet or I'm in the shower. Um, he's like a dancer. Yeah. Well I do call him my big blue dad because he's, um, he is a blue, he's painted as a blue being. Um, but yeah, so I, I have this spiritual awakening and then I'm still working in advertising at, at some point in that period of time.
Um, Krishna tells me I've got a year to extract myself from that world because, um, I. I have gone through such a huge change. I'm definitely not the human that I was prior to that. Mm-hmm. To that meditation and that experience of him coming through. Um, I've gone from being really unemotional as in like at, at one stage in my advertising career, I was working on alcohol, um, gambling. And I, I used to say that if I worked on cigarettes, I'd be like death.
Mm-hmm. And I would just offer my skills to, you know, the highest bidder and mm-hmm. And then all of a sudden I became this really heart centered being who would cry in TV ads and I'd, I just couldn't do it anymore. I just, mm-hmm. It was impossible. And so he said to me, you know, you've got a year to extract yourself. And I very cocky thought, I can definitely keep earning this much money in here and, and write these, you know, weird spiritual books on the side.
Yeah. And now, now I know that was totally unrealistic, but basically over the course of, I think it was a year, I lost all my abilities to do my advertising job. Um, Jules would always look over my work and I took my work to her and she's like, court, you can't submit this. Like, what is this? It was, I, I would say to people it was like they swapped my brain for a different one in that period because I could no longer do that work. And I basically got fired.
Um, wow. Like you had an energetic, like rewiring almost a, like a complete, where we refer to it in our healings, like completely rewire all in one in a quick shot, you know? It's wild.
Yeah. And I've got evidence of that because I'd been studying hypnosis. Mm-hmm. Cause I was always looking for a new competitive edge instead, you know, how can I be better than my peers and how can I keep getting better at my work? So I'd been studying hypnosis and I'd done a, like a strengths test through, um, I think it was Gallup. And Gallup does these tests where they, you basically, you answer a whole lot of questions and it tells you like what your core strengths are.
And my core strengths were critical thinking and they were all like very unemotional. It was all the things of why I was really good at my job is cause I could totally disconnect myself. And then I'd done another strengths test after my spiritual awakening and it had totally flipped to all heart-centered things that was, you know, all emotionally. So I've got these two personality tests that are now completely different. So I do have actual tangible evidence that my whole being has changed.
So, yeah. Wow, that's amazing. It's, that's just wild. Um, So I'm like, I always, as people are talking, I'm always getting downloads and I'm like writing stuff down. Um, how did you learn to trust? Cause it sounds to me that Krishna was really an activation of your intuition, you know, and your true psychic abilities, which we, I mean, I, it, the psychic word gets kind of tossed around and, and loosely and what that is and what that means.
But it's like, I know I refer to myself as psychic, but more as intuitive because I, the psychic aspect, I don't, I actually have really strong boundaries around predictive, even though I could, I just don't go there. Um, because I just don't like, it's either gonna create a haze over life or it's gonna. Put false hope and it's all based on where people are at right now, you know, and people can go as you know, as you just did, and totally do a 360 if they're open to it.
Right. And so, um, I'm, I'm just curious with the intuitive aspect of Krishna coming in it and activating that, like how did you learn to really trust in that, that that was like the activation of your psychic abilities, but also like the intuition of how to navigate your life and sort of quit this job? You didn't quit it, you sort of sabotaged it in a way, you know? Right. Yeah. It's like, well, I'm not gonna quit. I still want the money, but I'm just gonna blow it up.
Um, I, I think what seriously helped is, was the total strangeness of everything that was coming through. The fact that I was now getting all of this information, um, You know, even, you know, Jules reminded me again this morning how in, in those very early stages, and I think it might have been even on that, that day where everything activated for me.
That I'd, I was really into listening to audiobooks at that time, and I put on an audiobook and I'd, I'd just flog, um, business books constantly and, you know, self-development and mm-hmm. And I put it on and I heard this voice say, um, this is human knowledge. You've got access to universal knowledge now. Mm-hmm. As in, you know, put this stuff away.
And it was just, I think it was the total, I, I think when you're getting so much random information coming through all at once, it, it was a really drastic change. And I think that's why it was easier for me to accept that I'd obviously tapped into something. It wasn't subtle, it wasn't like, you know, Turned down this street
or Right, right. It was big. Like, it,
it was really big. Mm-hmm. All at once. Mm-hmm. And I think that made it easier to take it more seriously. I was also getting names and things coming through, you know, as, as I mentioned, I didn't know anything about Hinduism. Never touched it.
And, um, I had, when I was getting all of these names coming through, I'd look them up and I'm like, wow, these are, this is obviously coming from somewhere because everything that I'm kind of, you know, had the name Vishnu and I look up, you know, who's Vishnu and then I get, it's, you know, there's a, there's a theme that started, um, in, in saying that when I was channeling the books I had, I never looked anything up. I never researched anything. I wanted to be as pure as I possibly could.
Mm-hmm. Be, and I think that's assisted in my journey as well, because. When I was getting all of these, you know, when I was getting Krishna and you know, eventually then ISIS came through and I think it's helped me to have a more even relationship with them because I didn't research them. I think if I had researched them, it would've scared the shit out of me. Yeah. I
might have like
pulled back. Whereas I'm like, okay, there's this Krishna guy who wants to talk to me about the universe. Okay, well I'll just go with that because I'm pretty unhappy in my job and you know, let's just go with it. But it's definitely been a journey. There's been many times I've thought I was going crazy, but I think that's the time when my rational mind drops in because it's like we spend all of our lives trying to fit in. Mm-hmm.
And then all of a sudden you're kind of being thrust out into this other space. Yeah. And I think it was my need to fit in. That probably kept me quiet for a long time. Mm-hmm. And see, know, I was doing all this weird stuff on the side, but, um, yeah, it was tough. It was tough. Mm-hmm. To, I think the enormity of it made it easier to trust. Mm-hmm.
But it was the enormity of it that really scared me, and I'd liken it to, you know, come out as gay because it was like I'd had this whole reputation built on logic and all of my credibility was around being a really sound thinker. Mm-hmm. And then all of a sudden I'm coming out and saying, yeah, I'm having these conversations with spirits and I'm writing books about information that's coming from other worlds. And, and that was probably the most terrifying
thing. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I can only imagine. I mean, I know for even myself, just what I went through from the religious, like trauma, the not having, I mean, cuz I was literally told my gifts were, I was connecting with demons, you know, that. And as a kid I'm like, oh my God, I don't wanna back to demons. Like, it's like freak out, you know? And so, and I felt very lonely in it because growing up I was always different.
I had a good group of friends and I always had friends, but it was always very different. And so my sense of belonging, I resorted into the path of like drugs and eating disorders and, you know, just, just to feel like, where can I find myself? You know?
Mm-hmm. And, um, I think that when you're, when you're so different like that and forcing yourself, I also went corporate world for a while, you know, and then I bought a, a grooming salon cuz my type A is, I gotta do something and I, I, ugh, I put myself through that hell and back business for way too long. But I have a Capricorn moon, so everything is a long journey for that. And so it's just like, when are you gonna, when are you gonna stop? You know?
And that it, it's, it is, it's like disruptive because you, we as humans naturally want to belong. And then you get on this journey. And especially as an entrepreneur I think, and, and being at home and you're working from home, it's even more isolating. And the one thing you want is to belong, you know? And when we were getting started, They're really, now it's just blown up. I mean, there's so much connection and collaboration.
I think Covid really precipitated so much of that, which is wonderful. But at that time it was even lonelier and it, I wasn't even on social media. I didn't even, I didn't even create my business on social for three years. For the first three years was totally off social and nobody could understand how I even had a business. And I'm like, well, I just do. Like, it's going good. You know? So, but it, it, it's just, we can get so caught up in that.
But if, what would you tell that person now that tried to stay in it? If you could go back and say, Courtney, I'm gonna give you this kick in the ass and this is what I'm gonna tell you, but I'm gonna love you for it too.
I would say just give in. Mm-hmm. Because, and I say that to people now, especially people who have abilities and, and you, and I think everyone has abilities and gifts, but I think some are more dormant than others. Yeah. Um, oh, I, I think they're gonna get to in the end anyway. I feel that way with purpose that it's like a tide that is just drawing you towards what you're here to do. Um, yeah.
I would definitely tell myself to just give in and to stop running from it because I'm the happiest now I've ever been. I could never have reached that level of happiness. Yeah. Had I stayed in that world and very much been caught in the material world. Mm-hmm. Um, in saying that though, it's been really hard. God, I've done so much like what we call shadow work. Yes. In, in the spiritual world. Um, yeah.
Yeah. It's been, I think like I was borrowing into advertising, trying to get away from my gifts. I've spent the last, you know, I think it's eight years now since my spiritual life thing. I've spent that whole time borrowing, trying to get closer to who I actually am. Mm-hmm. Which that's like, God, there's all the layers of conditioning that we have as kids and you know, the spirits talk about it all the time. There's who the world wants us to be, and then it's who we truly are.
And it's been a very rewarding, but also very hard mm-hmm. Journey. And I was telling someone the other day, I even, I went to my school reunion. Um, so I finished school in 99 and. Ended up going to my reunion and people were asking me, I think this was only maybe two years ago, or maybe you went to your high school reunion 2019 and um, wow. People were asking Brave me what I, oh. But no, I wasn't, I told them that I was a consultant, and it's like, why would you do that?
You've been doing this for a long time now, you know, it's been, yeah. Um, so I mean, I, I went to a, like a private school where there's like brain surgeons and mm-hmm. And I, I still am getting comfortable with who I am and what I do. Yeah. Like's, it's a continual process every day. And it always surprises me when I share with someone what I do, and I can think, oh, they're definitely gonna think. I'm super strange and they're super interested in what I do. Mm-hmm. So it's, yeah, it's tough.
Yeah. Tough. It's, I, and I relate cause when I'm out meeting new people and I moved to a completely new state and area, meeting new people and so when I first got here it was very much when people, the first thing, cuz it's a kind of a transplant area, so everybody what do you do? It's like one of the very first questions people ask you. And um, I don't know. Um, well I, I work with um, people and I help people that have animals do things cuz I did agility.
Like it's all of the things we was like navigating it and how do you do it now? It's so interesting because. I've, I had a really big shift over the last year, and I think my, my father passing away back in September really kind of likened that and like brought that out because it just, whatever it was, the healing in that and not having to, um, he wasn't a, a bad person, but it was just a, he was a high functioning alcoholic.
There was just a lot of continual rejection because, not because it was intentional. That's, if you've ever known alcoholism, that's what happens, you know? Um, they can't, they don't, their heart is closed. They don't have the emotional capacity. They're really, truly suffering inside, and that's ultimately what he died from. And so it was almost like as that process unraveled, there was so much healing and that I didn't have to deal with.
That, that rejection, that emotional, like abandonment that father wound could finally heal, even though I'd done so much work in life around it. It, it's like when you're still being triggered and as an adult, our child, our inner child still has that feeling, right? And so, um, after that experience and as time went on and my mother, she was really, you know, suffered from borderline personality disorder and all kinds of stuff. So there was a lot of, you know, just trauma there, right?
And, and having to define myself because there wasn't anybody to help do that. And I was very, I had to be very responsible at a very young age. And so after that happened, it was just kind of like, wow, there was freedom in that. You know, and it sounds so crazy, but it really was. It was like freedom to be me.
And so since that time, it's almost like the way that I express, the way that I've moved, even when I get healings and I've had a few from you since then, it's like they integrate so much more and it's the, it was, it was just as if like all of that generational stuff just kind of was like, you know, and I wasn't holding space for that rejection and that constant like need for that, that validation from it.
And so I've gotten really brave, you know, I'm still like, I wonder what they're gonna think. I, at first it started out well how spiritually open are you? But I'm also in Arkansas, so spiritual is very religious. I mean, I didn't realize I moved to the Bible belt dish area, which is. Everybody's like, this is a really transplant part of it. So it's really open and diverse.
And so people are really spongy, you know, they're, they're really wanting to connect, which has been wonderful and healing for me as well. But it's, it did, at first it was like asking that, how spiritually open are you? And then, yeah, I, I, I read the Bible and I'm like, okay, I gotta shift this around, you know?
And it was, how do you feel about demons? Yeah, exactly.
Oh my gosh. And all the stories, I can really go down this demo. Oh yeah. Um, but yeah, so now it's just like, you know, actually I do spiritual work and I connect with people and work with them through energy clearing and healing modalities. And, um, you can think of it like a life coach, but from a very energetic perspective. And we work through transformation and navigate life change. And I also communicate with animals and do energy healing with them.
And that's like, and it's like most people are just like, Oh, crickets. You know,
that's such a beautiful way of describing it though. Um, but it's so funny what you said.
Yeah. It's, it's come like, it's just evolved to that. But how long did it take me to do that? I mean, I, that's why I didn't wanna open a social media account because they didn't wanna do that. And so many people that connect with me, they're so scared of that, of putting that out there. I do feel that we are in a huge shift and, and I don't know, you've cultivated a really good community within your, your reja Reja or we Yeah. Rja. Yeah. Yes. Wek community.
And I mean, do you find as you've gone farther and farther, like in this, that more and more people are open and receptive and coming together and need, it's like, want desiring it. They really want it.
Yeah, absolutely. And the spirits do talk about it a lot that, um, people have a thirst right now that they haven't had before. They're turning away from things that they've always known and that they're looking for something different. So, yeah.
Yeah, I think, um, I think there's definitely been a massive shift, especially throughout the covid period of, it's like we, we get to a point where we know life and we know what's gonna happen next, and we can keep going on the same path as we're on, but we know the place that we're gonna end up, or we can turn around in a completely different direction and do something different.
And. And I think it's strange even, you know, like, I don't know if you have Kmart over, do you have Kmart in the us? We used
to. I think they've all outta business now. Like Target or bankrupt? Yeah, we have Target and I think Kmar bankrupted
Heap, this is like very mainstream shopping center. Like, um, you know, brands that now have books on energy work and tarot and it's Oh wow. It, it's like, wow. And I, you know, um, lots of my clients are, um, American and I love that because I find culturally I find American people to be more open than what I find really Australians to be. Yes. Australians are quite closed and I think while we're a very friendly nation, we definitely are, I think, guarded. Whereas I find.
My American clients to be a lot more open. But, um, yeah, yeah, I think, I think there's been a huge shift and I think there's a massive thirst. So if you're sitting on energetic gifts and abilities Yeah. You know, it's definitely the time to start exploring them and stepping forward because there's, people are receptive, way more receptive than what they used to
be. Yeah. Especially like when you mentioned when they're really raw and you know, there's something so different. And, um, for me it was, um, it was very innate, so I didn't really know how I did it and it, it, it was hard for me to teach it. It was hard for me to put into words cuz it was something that was just a part of me for my entire life. And like you, I mean I was working with energy. I found a, um, somebody to teach me about energy and transmission of energy.
But I was channeling, I would hear people coming through me and years later, fast forward, um, it was, and it was interesting when we started connecting cause. I felt a really strong presence from Krishna often in, and it was almost like he was helping me heal so much of that within me to believe in myself and you believed in me so much, you know? And there's so much power in having somebody that you, you know, look up to and admire and that validates that.
But also can say like, I totally believe in you. Like, this is amazing. You're amazing. And, and it, it's, people say, we don't need that validation, but there is something really healing about that, that helps wake it up further in you and surrounding yourself with people that are very authentic in this. I, I feel is really important because it's like when it's really. Really a part of you. It can be hard to put it into words and describe like, what do I do? And I work with Durga a lot.
All I mean, she's been with me for years. Uh, love her, she's amazing. And I have galactic beings. You've had some of my healings. I've worked with galactic beings. Like I never knew. I, I still don't know who they are. I just call on my council and there's usually like nine of them. And, um, and I just like to keep it raw. I don't research. I didn't even know who Durga was. I just knew that person was there. One day I got brave and looked it up and I was like, oh. Hey, that's Durga.
I'm like, ok. I'm like, this is wild. You know? And then I've gotten into all these different versions of her that I just, I, I love the work with, with her and what she's opened me up to as well, and, and the world. And so it's, I I feel like it's just kind of being brave and owning these parts of you and, um, when you're working with clients or people in healing sessions, I think there's a, a gate, like, it's like a bridge.
You gotta sort of bridge them through, like, versus like, okay, I do channel Christian and I do this work. And it's, I think there's, I, I feel like people that come to you are probably already so open and you're even, cuz your Instagram is filled with your channelings, it's so beautiful.
You, you put parts of your healing cuz it's all written, it's all through a written document, through email, which I think is beautiful that you've done that your own way and, um, For me, it's all, it's turned into more video calls cuz I'm a connector in that way. And it's just so interesting how we can deny these, and I've gone through phases in my career where I've sort of like, no, I'm gonna stuff that away.
It's a little too much for all these people and the people coming to me, they won't be able to handle it. And it's like, we're not giving them trust, we're not giving them power. If they can't handle it, they can, they can leave, you know, and not work with you or ask questions.
But most people, I found, the more that I shared in that, the more that they connected, The more frequent they wanted to work with me, the more they wanted in my world because they felt it invoking something in them, even if they couldn't describe it. There's so much power in owning those healing abilities because when you do and you really use it, I just feel like the shifts that you can create for people, it's truly life changing. And it's like there's, so it's like getting into that.
Like really, I feel like in the, when we were talking about this before the podcast is just in the spiritual community, is like really finding out and being brave enough to like tap into what is your unique, like channel, your unique thing that makes, like where is that intuition coming from? Like what is it? You know? And really being brave enough to say, this is what I do, without having to back it up as something else that is a little bit more mainstream. Does that Yeah. Make sense? Yeah.
Oh, 100%. And I, I think too, that. The worst thing that's gonna happen if you are yourself is that you're gonna lose people. But I think we lose and accumulate people over our lives anyway. Like that was one of the things that was holding me back is, you know, I had all these friends in advertising who I really loved, and, and you know, there, we had a huge amount of people in our lives at that time.
And I, I felt like when Jules got sick and when we went through my change, we had a huge amount of ex exits. It was like a mass exodus of mm-hmm. Of people that we knew. But now I, you know, now I look back and I'm like, there's, there's a smaller amount of people in my life now, but I freaking love those people. Mm-hmm. And I feel like we could go through Armageddon together and we would be there. Like, I know that I could, if I needed help, I know that I could call on you. Mm-hmm.
Like, there's those connections that. I think withstand the storms of life. And I think the more that you are who you truly are, you naturally just attract more of these mm-hmm. People who are the right people for you. So I think, yeah. You know, we can agonize over what we might lose if we express who we truly are, but then maybe those parts are supposed to go anyway.
Yeah. You know? Yeah. No, because with those parts, it's like, that's the old versions of you too, that are leaving. And there is a grievance in that and an honoring of that. And I, I definitely, um, you know, I'm, I'm very aware of that, like, the parts of me that are like, that's not who you are anymore. That's just who you subscribe to be or thought you were or put yourself in this box to be, you know? And it's like the more that.
It, it's the more that it's like I've leaned into like me and how I express even my words and my language and how I work and connect with people and bringing all of this stuff into even how I, uh, work with people through entrepreneurship is it's like we're doing energy. We are going in like, it's like, you know, it's like when I teach people to open up their intuitive abilities, you know, it's first we gotta get to the block, we gotta get to the trauma that's blocking that from coming out.
Yeah. That's, that, that wound there, whether it's past life or this life, but, you know, clearing that and then, you know, suddenly people can access things that they never thought they could. And, um, it's just, yeah, it's, it's so wild how the more that we lean into it, the, yes, your circle might get smaller, but it's so much more supportive.
100%. Yeah. And it's, you know, speaking to the entrepreneurship side of things, I think it's incredible how much of our past life stuff and how much our wounds stop us from, like, we can try and separate business from the rest of our lives, but you know, if you've had a traumatic incident in this lifetime and you've got something of a similar theme in a past life, then that's naturally gonna impact on your business. Mm-hmm.
So it's like if you focus on healing, you're naturally unraveling all of the stuff that's, that's, you know, pulling you back.
Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, I see it all the time. I see it with, I see it with me. I mean, one of my biggest fears is rejection. I mean, cuz I went through it and I can't tell you how many healings I've had with you and it's like it helped heal so much of that. But it's, it's still a core theme, right? That's, that's like I. Lingering there, and I just have to be like, no, consciously when it's driving the show and say, no, you're not gonna be here. But I also know it, it is a past life thing.
But I also know that my gifts are past life too. Right? Like we bring Yes. Good. We bring brilliant things and, um, we bring the traumas to, and we, I, I, I don't know what you feel, I'd be curious about your perspective on this, but I've found that we will play out the past life's traumas until. Until we clear them in this lifetime, and we'll continue to do it until in whatever lifetimes, until we do clear it out. Is is that something you come across too? Oh,
one, 100% Emotionally. Mm-hmm. Like I, I spent a couple of hours the other day after listening to, um, Natalie Walton's podcast, um, soul Shine astrology. I love her cosmic calling podcast. I find it very calming. Her voice is calming. Yes. It's, I, it's like elixir to my anxious soul. Um, yeah, I, uh, was listening to her podcast the other day on the north in the south nodes, and I'm very much a beginner in the realms of astrology.
Mm-hmm. And I was looking at my south node versus my north node. And my south node is, um, what is it? I'm trying to think which, um, Which ones they were. But anyway, the, the general theme was my south note is that I've, you know, I've been a leader, I've been in business, I've been a ceo,
like leadership an Aries, was it Aries? South Node? It
wasn't
Aries. It was, I probably have your chart still saved then. Ah, I wish I could remember. I'll tell you right now. Um, cancer is your north node and, um, oh my gosh, what is cancer's opposite? Why am I drawing a blank? Capricorn.
South, north, yes. Yeah. So my, my Capricorn south node was all about leadership and like I, I pretty much could have been like the leader of an army. Mm-hmm. And I'm very much my corporate career in this life. My lack of emotion a hundred percent. And my cancer North node in this life is all about embracing my softness and yeah.
And you have a Pisces Moon too, though. You have this really soft little Pisces moon. Yeah. And
that's, that's been a huge, I was reading it out to Jules the other day. The, um, you know, the Capricorn, the Capricorn South and the mm-hmm. The cancer north. And we were laughing so hard because if, if you look at my, um, my south node, that is me, up until like, even probably a year ago, I've been refining those hard, hard aspects and mm-hmm. You know, this life for me is all about family and community and all of these soft things that I would've been like
five years ago. Yeah.
I'm like, yeah. It's actually, you know, becoming a better parent to our child, Bella and mm-hmm um, basically walk trying to learn how to do and even send a very manual process
for me. Yeah. Yeah. It's um, that's interesting too cuz I know you're a Libras son and I always relate cause I'm a Libra rising and it's that people pleasing, you know, always, and, and we move energy. Libra is our balancers. We're always balancing the energy, you know, and yeah. So interesting. Um, that, and I relate to the Capricorn energy because I have a Capricorn moon, so I mean, everything about me is leader.
Even my human design, when I had Lara did my chart, she's like, oh my God, you have like, First of all, like almost every channel on your safe or your, um, splenic is ac like totally got cov whatever they call it, human design. Cause I'm not, it's like you are so psychic. Like it's, and then like then I have like all these channels that are all leader channels and I'm like, yeah, I've kind of been like that since you just took the lead, you know?
And, and, uh, but my, my north node is Libra, so my south node is Aries. And it's like coming off of that warrior, like, you know, self for the self energy and moving into partnership.
And so I've learned, I've, I've moved through so many partnerships in learning that you know how to receive, how to, even now in my business, I'm only to the point, like I don't even know how I've done all that I have and, and being single for, you know, all these years and moving across the country and my five dogs. And it's like, You know, but it, it does come at a cost at some point. I points, I've had health issues and I just get on top of them. I'm like, okay, don't you bring it back?
You know, and kind of learning how you internalize that stress and move through it and where that like hyperfocus, that drive becomes so much, it's like that masculine areas, old energy coming in, you know, it's like I'm gonna conquer the world and, and that Capricorn moon, yeah, I president of the United States now, you know, it's like in my house, you know, it's like, it's like raining it back and checking it.
But I love that I have this labor North node and my Libra rising and um, I have Pluto conjunct. So it's all about transformation and relationships for me. And that's where I've learned, and I'm finally at a point in my life that I have this connection and the open-heartedness and. And to receive and seek out support and, um, know that I need it too. And it's okay that I, I, I need it. I actually want it. I love it. It's like an ongoing thing for me.
Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think it's really hard to receive. I struggle so hard with receiving even from Jules. Jules will wanna do things for me if I'm sick or, and I'm like, no. I will do this on my own. Yeah. And it's, it's crazy because it is really nice to receive. Yeah. And when I do receive it, I, I love it. But I think, and may, maybe it's the role of a healer as well, maybe in our past lives mm-hmm.
We've been so used to doing everything on our own and isolation and, you know, persecution and all of these, like, past life themes. Maybe it's, maybe it is about learning this sense of community in this lifetime. It sounds like we've got similar south node. Yeah, we do
challenges. Yeah. And, uh, my Mars is in cancer, so cancer North node. It's like natural. You wanna lean into like, nurturing people too. It's like being a leader through nurturing. It feels really good for you to nurture and heal and cancer's very healing energy. And, uh, so, and it's, you know, all in your sixth house, you have a lot in your sixth house, so you're of service and it's hard to receive when you have all of that individual, like that autonomy in there.
So I wanna kind of shift gears a little bit and, um, one of the things, I know that you, you're an introvert and, and like navigating business and content as an introvert and so I'm just curious cuz you put your content out, you're really diligent about it. You do take breaks here and there and go into hibernation mode and you're very like, Hey, I'm offline. Then it's like magically Courtney's back and it's like never missed a beat. And then you're really consistent with it and you're out there.
And how have you been able to find a way that really supports you and who you are, like your authentic nature as an introvert, and then also building and creating a business as an introvert as well.
Yeah. So human design wise, I'm actually, um, a two five. So I'm a hermit heretic. So it's in my nature to retreat into my cave and then to not say anything for a while and then to come back out and be like, yeah. And I've also got the gate of shock in my, um, human design, which means there's a part of me that gets a thrilled from shocking people with information. And I've always loved jumping out at people. And so that's when Lara Enders told me about my gate of shock.
I was like, God, that makes so much sense. Um mm-hmm. I've, I find social to be so hard because mm-hmm. I feel like the whole world tells you you've gotta be consistent, you've gotta be on there every day. Mm-hmm. And I, I don't have things to say every day.
Yeah. You know, there's, there's always a lot going on in my head, but, um, I've found, I, I would prefer to post when I'm inspired to post, which weirdly enough, Claire Solomon, who's another amazing, um, guide, she works with the Kashi records. I'd mentioned to her how I've, I've just always have so much content around the Full Moon, and she'd said to me, it's because the Full Moon is the best time to write content. I think she'd said.
And, and so I, I just go on now and I post when I feel inspired to do so, but I'm consciously trying to work on my writing because I'd, I'd love to write a book one day. Mm-hmm. I have no idea how I would even concisely pull my thoughts down into something because I feel like my thoughts are constantly changing about everything. Mm-hmm. The more I learn, it's like the more I learn from the spirits, the more I realize I don't know.
And then how, how could I ever commit that to a, you know, a book, um, But I'm, I'm trying to work on my writing more so, and I find that writing for me is actually a really good way of working out what I think about things. Mm-hmm. So I'm kind of using social maybe as therapy. Mm-hmm. I didn't, you know, a place where I go, okay, I've got like a spark of an idea about this. And then I, I write and I rewrite and I'd, I work through it.
And then by the end of it I'm like, does that idea feel, you know, tightly wrapped up in, in a ball? Yes, it does. Okay. I'll post it. But I still get really nervous posting. Um, you know, obviously you get lots of great feedback. And then every now and again because it's the internet, someone will say something and I, and I think, God, why do I do this?
Why do I go on and say things when I just, you know, and I think that's the introvert part of me that wants to shock me back into the cave again. But, um, yeah, I think, I think social is tough. I try not to listen to what people tell you you should. Do I never look at analytics, nothing like that because I just have this overwhelming trust that if people are supposed to see what I do, then they're gonna see it. Regardless of an algorithm or, yeah, but it's, I mean, social is tough.
Um, I think probably the pressure has been taken off the last couple of years because all of my work is word of mouth, so, mm-hmm. I'm at a point now where people just seem to recommend me to their friends and family and mm-hmm. But I, I try to use social as a place to share things that I think might help people or that might give them a different perspective on things.
Yeah. You do it really well and how you share parts of your, your guidance parts and it's so easy, it's such an easy way to extract parts of who you are because it's like right there in the email, so you can extract it without even saying who it's about or sharing anything personal or divulging that. So I think that's a brilliant way to do that. And, um, You know, and I, I totally, I never look at analytics.
I don't, I don't look at, like, sometimes I'm like, I might look at how many accounts it reached, but even that means nothing. Cuz it just means it reached them. It doesn't mean they played it, it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean it reached them. Like it's really for me, a creative outlet too. And I, when I, when I realized how much I just love to ride, I always have.
And, and I got back into my teenage years of kind of went back and it was on just a journey of my own little healing that I did with myself and going back and, and I remembered how much I loved to write. I was so poetic. I was very, you know, and I, I went and I pulled out all these old poems and I was like, you're a writer. Like, just go write. Just go write to create, go be you, you know? And so I've just had so much fun. Doing. That's, it is vulnerable.
It's just always gonna feel vulnerable to me. Um, and especially, I, I know you shared a post the other day about reja and you're like, I'm not really good at promoting myself. I don't really like doing this. But yet it's, it's sort of one of those things, and you, you do primarily all one-to-one offerings in your business is solid. Correct. Um, and it's like where you have capacity, you're, you're good.
You love where it's at, it's, it's, and you know, but for people that are growing and really getting out there, it's like you, you have to, you eventually can get more relaxed and do your thing, but I always feel like I try to encourage people just go be you, go be your personality and, and figure out what feels really good to you. And I just, I like that you share that you're an introvert.
I like that you share about that because I think that it's really inspiring and a lot of people feel that if they're a certain way, they can't actually. Have success in this spiritual world. And truth be told, a lot of us that are really umen, energetically sensitive, we can only take in so much of that. And, and we are energetically sensitive and, and we can only hold so, so much of certain vibrations of energy.
So it's better just to go be yourself and clean up your feed and don't, don't look at all of what anybody tells you. I mean, you know, you, you gotta do what you gotta do to grow. But like, at the same time it's, it's, there's so much more that we can do even off of that to grow. Yeah. I think
people are looking for a raw, I think people are looking for truth. Yeah. You know, we live in this ultra polished world where, Oh, it just makes me feel sick even thinking about it like we're told to be ourselves, but then there's these like extraordinary expectations on what that means. Mm-hmm. And that you've gotta have all of your shit together and that everything's gotta be great.
And, and it's like, I even, I saw an article the other day and it was like, what Instagram posts look like versus what the locations actually look like in real life without it all being touched up. And it's like, I know it's ridiculous. People want them behind the scenes stuff.
Mm-hmm. They want, I know personally for me, the reason why I share the stuff that I fear or that I'm ashamed of, or, you know, the reason I try to be honest is I think it gives other people permission to be honest as well. Mm-hmm. Like, I'd prefer for that to be my legacy than to have. How it look like I've got everything together and mm-hmm.
Actually, that's something, that's an interesting story, that's something I really struggled with initially coming into the spiritual space, is I felt really messy and the spiritual world felt really clean and tidy. Mm-hmm. And for a long time, that was a big battle for me because I was like, so how, how I met my wife Jules was um, through a blog that I used to write called Reasons to Date Courtney Burke. And, you know, people don't pick that I'm gay.
And so I started this blog where I would, and this was in the era of blogs, like Tumblr and things. Mm-hmm. I'd started this blog where I'd list a different reason every day why a woman might wanna date me. And I ended up meeting my wife and the blog, you know, got a little bit so cool, a little bit well known and, but I'd, I'd written stuff on there that I was like mortified about.
Um, like, like I'd always joked when I was in advertising that if I was gonna invest in anything, it'd be parking spaces and brothels, because I'm like, you know, you go to somewhere like Pompe and the Sketchings on the wall are like the ancient brothels. And I'm like, sex will never go out of fashion. It's, you know, it's a solid investment. But then I'm like, wow, I'm now in this spiritual space where everything feels really clean and I feel really dirty.
And yeah, at that time I had really, I was like, I can't reveal any of this other stuff about me. I've gotta keep it clean. It's like, and it's, it's like, I like being M 15 plus. I don't wanna be G rated, but I felt like the spiritual world expected me to be G-rated and mm-hmm. I remember having almost like a total breakdown over, I can't keep this up. I, I can't be this shiny white robe wearing, Yeah.
Spiritual person when, you know, my life falls apart at times, like yeah, I'm doing shadow work, I get angry, I say things I shouldn't say and it's like, doesn't mean I can't do the, doesn't mean I can't be really freaking good at what I do. Mm-hmm. It's just that I'm a human being risk going through the same motions of life as everyone else is.
Um mm-hmm So I definitely found the integration and trying to find a place where I can still be myself and still have, share my fears and, and share, you know, what my life is like at times. And also still channel, you know, these beings and share stuff that they're teaching me. Mm-hmm. From their very wise space and their perspective that might help other people at the same time. And it's been easier to write when I'm not trying to be this pure. Yeah, love and life, spiritual being. Mm-hmm.
I think it's been very freeing leaving that behind, um, because it's, oh, it's just not a standard we can meet. And, and people want, they want to see that you're a well-rounded human being. Mm-hmm. That they don't want to know that you've got a perfect life and that everything's Rosie all the time. It's just not
real. It's not real And so much, and, you know, so much is dys, faic. I mean, even with, and, you know, I really watch patterns and like I can pick out patterns and, and see like where things are going. And my hope for the online space is that, um, and one of the things I'm gonna be really convicted in with what I share about is, you know, not being afraid to basically, Call that bullshit, you know? And you know, I'm not gonna name anybody, I'm not gonna say who, anything like that.
But, um, where it's like brainwashing material where it's, you know, just doing, you know, certain things because that's, that's the edgy sexual, like whatever way of like, I'm just not gonna be that, that I'm very, I learned to be very embodied in my feminine, but I'm not gonna be the person that's out there in my sexy. Like, I don't even have shit like that anyways.
But like, I'm still gonna be in my like, blue jean shorts and, and my cute little, you know, my stone ears is just what I am, you know, I'm gonna be pacing pictures with me on the rock and that's what I do. You know, it's just like, to me that's authentic. And can I be sexy? Hell yeah, but it's not my.
It's not my way of like, expressing my personal truth or that more power to people that can, but sometimes I think that some of this can get really caught up in like the looks or of, of that edge where people can really meet that edge. And then also, like you said, just making it so clean and tidy that it's, it's just so bland and we're not really offering much of the, the in between, you know, around that. So it's such an
interesting Go ahead. I think too, you, you've gotta have enough space to allow yourself to grow as well. You know, if you put yourself in this, it's like you, if you ent, if you exit where you are and then you enter spirituality and you create another tiny little box for yourself to live in, like, what have you gained? Mm-hmm. I think, um, as I said, you know, earlier, I, I feel like the more I learn. About the spirit world and what they teach me, the more I feel, I don't know anything at all.
I can, like, I know it's always evolv. Maybe I can know things maybe from moment to moment or I can be constantly shaping my perspectives on things, but nothing for me is fixed anymore. Um. Mm-hmm. Um, I think giving yourself the space to be a learner and to admit that you're continuing to learn mm-hmm. It, it's freeing to not be, I don't know. I don't, I don't miss being an expert Yeah. On something. I, I know things about healing.
Like there are things that I've learned that I, I think are shaping, you know, the work that I do now. But I, I don't want to be that person that knows everything because I think mm-hmm. Wow. Holy shit. The spirits have just put me in this total place of humbleness. Like,
yeah. That's such a good point.
I'm a tiny little fish in a giant universe, pond, and I'm happy to be in that position. I, um, and if I can share tidbits of what I'm learning that, you know, things that are coming through in healings, then that might help someone else ask more questions, then. That's amazing. I think I'm definitely less about answers now and more about, you know, asking more questions of yourself mm-hmm. And everything around you.
Yeah, totally. That's such a good point too, of just like, it isn't ever, I mean, the things that I've learned now versus where I was five years ago is just such an evolution and, um, yeah, it's, it's, it's giving yourself the space to just be free in it and not have to be like the all or like, know it all or have the pressure to be the end all, or like having that pressure and that responsibility. It's so much and it's just putting us back in those perfectionists.
Tendencies that we're trying to move away from so that we can be free to heal and share our gifts and, and do what we're here to do and, and spread our medicine. And so, one more question I have for you, because I love to talk about passion and our desires cuz I, I just feel so strongly that that is really the, a gateway to like our soul, to our truth. And, you know, so many people just kind of shove them away and they're afraid to acknowledge these really deep yearning desires, whatever it is.
I know for me, one of the things that I hit away forever was that, and I've, I've worked with you in some healing sessions around this, was the fact that I really wanted a partner I wanted, A partner in this lifetime. And I settled in relationships because I wanted that so bad. And so I had to go through the path of being single for quite a while and knowing what that was like and find my partnership with me.
And when I found that partnership with myself, I finally found this amazing person who's just been just incredible. We're actually coming up on our year anniversary this weekend, so it's like congrat. Congratulations. He's like, I mean, we're like cut from the same pod. It's just, um, it's like we, we came together and we're like, Oh my God, thank God somebody understands me. Like it's just, it's awesome. But, and I had to own that too.
I had to really claim that that was something that was really a part of my life because there was so many people that really, I don't care if I have a partner. Is that true or you just saying that because it's like this hyper independent space, you know? And when I finally claimed it was so freeing for me, it like liberated me so that I could really heal through what I needed to, to call in that person. That was gonna be my, my equal, my soul activator in this life.
And so I'm just curious, like for you, you know, what is like your, your just burning desire, like where you're at now in your life and something that you want to bring forward, and maybe even the, in the past, something that you had that really, you know, shaped your life in a way that has created such an impact for you. Um, that
is a really good question. I definitely don't know what I'm looking for. I definitely don't think I am now where I'm gonna be in the future, as in, I think other people might look at my life and think, wow, you've arrived in your purpose. And, and I'm like, no, I don't think I have yet. I think I'm like a little, a few steps in, but I've got a really freaking long way to go in working that out. I've always been passionate about learning. I love learning about new things.
Like I'm really into learning about amulets at the moment. Taro, um, I think so way back when I was in advertising and I'd, I'd lost. I'd become really jaded in my job. This is pre leaving, and someone had said to me like, what would you do if you were not in advertising? And I said, honestly, what I'd love is that if someone just gave me a computer lab underground and I could just learn all of the information in the world,
I love that I'm really your hermit cave. My burning desire to go to a ca, be a hermit.
Oh my god, share that on social is my burning desire. Just cave, hermit my fantasy. No word of a light is to live at the top of a lighthouse.
I love it. You're in such a face mood. Oh my God, I love it.
Um, that's so funny because that's actually a real, an insight I haven't actually realized yet, so thank you.
I just work it up in you. That's what I do.
Um, and I, I've said that to Jules. You know, I'd, I'd love to sit at the top of a lighthouse and just channel books for the rest of my life. Like, and, and never even speak to anyone. Just like them out the window and be like, here's another manuscript. Yeah.
That's so symbolic though. Like, beam beaming your light out, you know, it's like, here I am. That's so true. It's my light, it's shining. Nobody's gonna dip my light here. You know?
I love that. Um, yeah, I think it's not learning any one particular thing. I feel like I wanna understand everything. Mm-hmm. Um, And I think that make, it's like I'm the ultimate multitasker to the point of my detriment because I mm-hmm. I dunno if there's any one thing I'll ever go back into that I'm going to wanna specialize in.
Like even, you know, I've been thinking lately, um, as I said earlier, I'm interested in studying like a cult archeology and looking at magical objects and their history. And, but then when I was talking to my taro deck about it, and this voice that comes through the taro deck, I'm not even sure who it is yet. Um, impression that I got was that, that would be too small of a box for me to put myself in as well. Mm-hmm. So, yeah.
Is it, like you said, is my burning desire to just go into a space where I can be completely myself and just mm-hmm. Soak up everything that I want to and yeah. Is that actually what I want to do? And then what would come from that if I allowed myself to totally exit this world?
Not, not physically obviously, but to just drop into that space where I've totally surrendered because I, I definitely still feel whilst, you know, my spirit guides are probably my best friends that I, um, I still hold back. There's something in me that is like, yeah, I'm not quite ready to let go of the, the physical world yet and dropped completely into that space.
But as I said, I think I'm still only maybe a couple of tiny baby steps into my journey, even though to the outside world, it seems like I know who I am. Right. I definitely don't know who I am yet. Mm-hmm. I don't think I'll ever,
it's, it's the evolution too. Um, yeah. This has been so awesome. And how well, and how old are you? Right. Do you mind my asking?
Turning 42 this year? I think
so, yeah. It'll, we'll have to ask that question when you hit 45 because Yes, this woke up in me over the last, I'd say year, um, year and a half really, when, um, I think when I just really started my, my dating journey again, like really took it like seriously where I was saying, I'm just saying no to the BS. And if it's not in alignment, it's done.
It's not welcome in my world, you know, and kind of cleaning up my life so much and then navigating the healing that I did over the last time, but, And it's, it's, we, you'll go through your Uranus opposition and that's gonna wake so much up in you. We'll have to revisit this and see what comes
through over the next couple years. I was gonna say, ask you, is that mean it's
gonna wake up some shit, girl. So it'll be good. It's, it's all good. It's always good, right? It always is. And yeah. Um, what is going on in your world, in Courtney's world right now, that you are so excited about in your business that you want people to know about and, and be able to share with?
Um, I think first, like, not totally not business related. I am trying to be more excited about everything that occurs and happens versus being attached to specific outcomes. Mm-hmm. And I think that's something that draws my wife is teaching me a lot about as well, is. That everything that happens is good. It might not feel that way at, at the time. Yeah. But that, it always ends up making sense. Um mm-hmm.
So that's something I'm actually excited about cuz I feel like it's made life a bit like I can take more air in or life just be, has become a bit easier when I'm like, okay, this doesn't feel great at the moment, but I know in a week's time I'll be like, oh, of course that needed to happen because of this. So, um, totally just that. Um, I have, I obviously do my healings and readings, but I have a group called , which, um, um, is an amazing group of people from around the world.
And, uh, I make meditations with the spirits that I work with. So they're not really your normal med meditations. They're, um, the types where you'll, you know, feel things and see things and, and then we also do, um, a healing once a month. And then that's kind of become, I guess, my. My passion. If I was gonna have like one chosen passion, it's downloading things for that group. Um, I don't know. I just, I get a real kick out of seeing other people expand. I'm not weed to where they end up.
I just, I just love that if we can make something and it just opens up someone a little bit more to something that's inside of them, I'm like, that is a great week. We've done something good. So, yeah. That's kind of what's exciting me, is that each time we do something and, and I just love hearing people's reactions and the, and the things that are happening in their lives once they've started open up, opening up.
Because I think once you start that process of looking into yourself and becoming more of yourself, I think you just draw more magic in. Mm-hmm. It just, it's like a whirlpool where the universe just starts to support you more,
so. Mm-hmm. Yeah. What about you? I've always got something to, you've been working with me long enough, like, oh, whirlwind. Oh my gosh. I know. I've got always the animals. And I just did like, uh, a really long in-depth course that, um, I just channeled the whole thing through the animals and through my guides. And, um, I'm really proud of myself for leaning into that and not going into a system and structure with it and just allowing it to flow through me, which is what it, what it does.
And, um, I'm really excited about this podcast and being able to collaborate and connect with people because that's just a huge part for me of my journey is, is connecting with others and, and sharing. And like you said, being able to inspire and, and invoke something in other people.
And, um, I've really gone into, I still always will do an intuitive alignment and talk about it, but I've really want to, I've shifted over the last couple years into, not shifted, I still have it, but like business and awakening gifts and, and helping people on the development side of that.
Um, because I think that there's a big missing link in when people first get into it around putting so much structure to it and it's really in here and it's just like, Kind of guiding people and holding people. I've become doing a lot of trauma-informed, like, you know, really regulating nervous system work and, and deepening the connection with the energies and allowing people to just be free and, and accessing that.
And then ultimately, you know, creating a business that sup is like passionate and supportive and that people are convicted about and really want to create an impact. And so that's become so much fun for me and the people in my world. It's just the way that the business has evolved has just been great. And so I'm just excited about it. I don't really know what my goals are with it. It's just to keep growing, like you said, and keep expanding and always reflecting my life here is so good.
And I'm just glad to finally feel that. Ease at 45. You know, it took a long time to get there and, but I'm still still committed to my healing work. Like I will always reach out to, you know, get my sessions when I'm really in need and doing my inner work on a daily basis. And I reflect, but not in a way to be perfect, but just in a way to expand and grow and be committed, like you say, to helping other people, you know? So
I'm so glad that you're teaching cuz I just think you've got so much magic within you. I'm just really glad that you are, that you've branched out to speak to people on a, a broader level. Thank you. Um, thank you because, you know, even just looking at Toby alone, our, our dog who passed last, last year, um, you gave us so much in his last years of, you know, what he needed and what he wanted and. Um, and it was like we were able to get to know him in a way that we hadn't been able to before.
And even at our wedding, um, you'd said that he wanted to wear a baby blue bow high, and that was freaking Toby. And we did, we found new one and it was beautiful. And we, we look back on those photos, you know, all the time. And I think, you know, if you, if you haven't had a session with you, then you, you need to, because your work is really special. So thank
you. And it's evolved just like you're, yeah. And it's just an evolution, right? And that was, that was right when I was getting started. And it's so hard to believe that that's the impact then, and it's just evolved so much. And now it's like you, it's just, it's a constant evolution in this space and it really is a journey. So, but I appreciate that and I, I just wanna say like, how many years did. Krishna constantly say, Ray, go to teaching.
Ray. I don't even know if you remember Ray, go to teaching. I do, I do. Ray, you need to teach. And then the other Ray, you need to write a book. I, I know I will write a book. I know, I know I will. But like, it's just, I've, I'm, I've created the space in my life to do the things that I've always wanted to do. And first was like, like you said, sharing my voice and believing in my voice.
I didn't, and it was like so many sessions and people always say, I feel like I'm talking about the same thing all the time. Like, it's normal. It's so.
Well, I'm very glad that you've stepped into teaching. It's, um, yeah, the world needs your thoughts on things. So God, thank you and thank you so much for having me. Yes,
this is so much fun. Always just, you're just such a, like, just such a breath of fresh air and so calm and so grounded. And um, I will definitely put all your social links in the podcast notes so people know where to find you and connect with you. And, um, if you guys wanna get on Thek membership, do it cuz Courtney will not disappoint.
She will activate so much in your imagination, in your mind and allow you to get even more in touch with your intuitive channels and really fun and creative ways. So thank you Courtney so much. Thank you. Hey Untamed listeners, I am so appreciative that you took time out of your day to spend with me. I hope you enjoyed this podcast as much as I did, and I would love your support for this podcast. I would be so appreciative of a positive review. This helps promote the podcast.
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