"The Michael Wolff Interview"

The Two Matts

Sep 29, 2023•36 min

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Michael Wolff’s gripping new book The Fall chronicles in extraordinary detail the final years of Rupert Murdoch’s grip on worldwide news media. Wolff is a master of his craft - shedding light on legends in their own lifetimes - most notably Murdoch and Donald Trump. Today, in a fascinating trialogue, he faces The Two Matts, legends in their own lunchtimes, and describes how Murdoch was bewildered by the evolution of Fox News, explains how he’s actually the opposite of Logan Roy, and reveals the lunchtime ritual of the most influential media baron of our times. Enjoy…

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