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The Two Matts

The New Worldwww.thenewworld.co.uk
Join The New World's Matt Kelly and Matt d'Ancona plus occasional guests for weekly chat on politics and media with a side of cultural stuff. A podcast in the spirit of the award-winning New World newspaper - irreverent, witty, surprising, argumentative ... and annoying all the right people.

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Episodes

Rise of the far right and the resurrection of Jeremy Corbyn

Events in Epping are spreading. The Matts take a long hard look at the influence of a new strain of far right activist and how they are emboldened by the words and posts of Nigel Farage. After that - what does the new political party led by Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana mean for the Labour Party and the UK’s first past the post political system? The consequences are deeper than meet the eye. Enjoy! OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/...

Jul 25, 202538 min

The real crime is how Labour let Farage control the narrative

Nigel Farage laid out his plans to halve crime in Britain; a combination of blithe populist (undeliverable) promises and dog-whistling lifted straight out of the MAGA playbook. The Matts pick apart the performance. But their disgust for him is shared equally with Yvette Cooper, the actual Home Secretary, whose recent contribution to fighting crime in Britain has centred exclusively on making a bunch of pro-Palestine protesters guilty of supporting a terrorist organisation. Who exactly does Pales...

Jul 22, 202544 min

This week's Two Matts Q&A: Why do Reform get such disproportionate airtime?

Today on The Two Matts podcast Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. They discuss why it is the BBC gives Reform such disproportionate airtime, what on earth “useful” information means in connection to Grant Shapps and whether Ozempic isn’t just a wholly good medical solution to something that ruins millions of lives. They also talk about superinjunctions, whether we get the media we deserve and if they’re going to take a holiday at some point. OFFER: Get The New World f...

Jul 20, 202529 min

The greatest scandal of our times?

The Matts explore the various extraordinary facets of the super injunction following the accidental leak of thousands of Afghans who helped Britain and now face retribution from the Taliban. In its scope, it could be the biggest single scandal of them all - the threat to transparent government, the betrayal of foreigners who supported the UK, the treatment of those foreigners when they arrive here, the Labour decision to shut down safe passage for them, the Tory decision to cover it all up. It’s...

Jul 17, 202552 min

The BBC on trial

It’s all about the UK’s public broadcaster today - The BBC. It’s had a shocker of a week, mitigated only by Gary O’Donoghue’s spellbinding interview with Donald Trump, which the Matts discuss in the first part of today’s pod. But then things turn south. Two damning reports - one into Gregg Wallace and one into the Gaza documentary broadcast then pulled as it emerged the narrator was the son of an Hamas official - have left Director General Tim Davie’s job hanging by a thread. As Lisa Nandy calls...

Jul 15, 202549 min

This week's Two Matts Q&A: Is it a genocide or not?

Today on The Two Matts podcast Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. They discuss whether it is time to describe Israel’s actions in Gaza as genocide, the launch of Best Start and what the appeal of Oasis is. Plus there’s talk about whether politicians should have an enforced retirement age, the government's expansive use of terrorism legislation, Jake Berry’s defection to Reform and what to see at the cinema. OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Hea...

Jul 13, 202545 min

Tax the (VERY) rich!!

The Matts discuss the options available to Starmer and Reeves given they seem determined not to raise income tax, VAT and national insurance. Could taxing the enormously wealthy be an election winner? How could the property rich, cash poor be protected? And how would the Daily Mail come up with some spurious objection to protect their proprietor’s billions? But first … has the Macron visit produced the seeds to an end to the ghastly channel boat trade in immigrant crossings? And is a Franco-Brit...

Jul 10, 202535 min

Special guest Tom Baldwin: Can Keir turn a bad start around?

The Matts are joined by New World contributing editor Tom Baldwin - author of Keir Starmer The Biography - for an honesty session. Where has Labour gone wrong in its poor first year and is Keir Starmer the right man to turn things around and keep Farage out of Downing Street. It’s a tough conversation but full of insight and ideas (something Labour could do with some might say). Enjoy! Pre-order the new edition of Keir Starmer The Biography here OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first...

Jul 08, 202554 min

This week's Two Matts Q&A: Should we admire Keir Starmer's willingness to back down?

Today on The Two Matts podcast, Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. They discuss whether Keir Starmer’s willingness to back down and listen is actually something to be admired, if the Prime Minister should take more care with his speeches and how serious Palestine Action’s protests were. Plus they talk about the extent of corruption in UK politics, just how progressive the Labour Party is, and 80-year-old Rod Stewart’s Glastonbury set. OFFER: Get The New World for just...

Jul 06, 202531 min

What really makes humans tick? And what’s going on in Number 10?

The Matts are joined by Jonathan Goodman, author of Invisible Rivals , a fascinating book about what really makes the world go round and its consequences for religion, politics and media. It’s a revelatory conversation that will change how you think about society. Also the tragic death of Diogo Jota and his brother, plus what the hell is going on in Number Ten? Enjoy! OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts Buy Invisible Rivals throu...

Jul 03, 20251 hr 3 min

Meanwhile in Gaza… Have we lost our moral compass?

The Matts reflect on the prospect of famine in Gaza while the UK media obsesses on the antics of a rapper on a Glastonbury stage. Why is the crisis facing hundreds of thousands of children relegated to an afterthought? Why does Keir Starmer say more about Bob Vylan than the humanitarian disaster on the eastern shore of the Med? Also: can Starmer survive the pirouettes of u-turns he is performing as the Parliamentary Labour Party rejects his welfare bill? As we approach his year anniversary in po...

Jul 01, 202543 min

This week's Two Matts Q&A: Could Just Stop Oil now be considered terrorists?

The Matts again respond to your queries. They discuss whether the government’s Palestine Action decision means Just Stop Oil could now be considered terrorists, if AI could actually be the populists’ worst nightmare and the genius of David Lynch. Plus they debate whether journalists should strive for detachment, Keir Starmer’s on-off welfare cuts and which is most cringeworthy: Mark Rutte calling Donald Trump Daddy, Trump comparing Israel and Iran to two schoolkids having a scrap in a playground...

Jun 29, 202537 min

Keir Starmer in big trouble at home

As the international news agenda moves at a frenzied pace, back home Keir Starmer faces a crisis of his own. The Matts explore the depth of feeling from amongst his own backbenchers against his welfare bill. It’s a crisis wholly of his own making and as Reform continues to surge in the polls, it bodes badly for all of us. Also - why did Mark Rutte call Trump daddy? And what was the Matts’ greatest Glasto moment? All will be revealed! Enjoy! OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first mont...

Jun 26, 202544 min

Trump drags the world to the edge of reality

It’s been a few days of head-spinning consequence and the Matts explore the thinking of the man at its heart - Donald Trump. They kick off with an extraordinary moment; Trump losing his cool as Israel and Iran both appear to defy his ceasefire - but then the conversation moves quickly to what this means for the Middle East, for the UK, the United Nations, for NATO, and for the future of Europe. There’s a lot of ground covered this week … buckle up. OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the fi...

Jun 24, 202546 min

This week's Two Matts Q&A: Are we witnessing the early stages of a global war?

The Matts again respond to your queries. They discuss whether we are witnessing the early stages of a global war without anyone admitting it, if we have collectively deleted our memory of 2016 and when we started confusing billionaires with philosophers. Plus there’s talk of whether Keir Starmer should have stooped at the feet of Donald Trump, if having children is ethical and what actually defines genius. OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld....

Jun 22, 202542 min

The week the world holds its breath

As missiles fly between Israel and Iran, the Matts explore the long backstory to a conflict that has the capacity to spark a truly global conflict. Why has Netanyahu chosen now to attack? What can Iranians hope for? How will Keir Starmer handle the fact he is caught between a rock and hard place. And the biggest question of all: What will Trump do now. Ok - so not even Trump knows that - but the Matts explore the options. One note of light relief - MAGA is in a mess over it. It’s a small silver ...

Jun 19, 202547 min

The genius of myth-busting ... with Helen Lewis

The Matts are joined by Helen Lewis, journalist and author of The Genius Myth: A Curious History of a Dangerous Idea for a fascinating deep-dive into what it means to be a genius. Why does society worship difficult men? Who gets left out of the genius narrative? And what if collaboration, not isolation, is the real source of greatness? Enjoy! OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more info...

Jun 17, 202549 min

Q&A: Is the Trump-Musk rift far from amusing?

The Matts discuss whether the rift between Donald Trump and Elon Musk is actually far from amusing, if the US president is being insulated from the mockery being hurled at him and what is going on with the so-called Epstein files. Plus they talk about how to fix the manosphere, the way to react to Quran burnings and potential acronyms to give to Nigel Farage. Enjoy! OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts Hosted on Acast. See acast.c...

Jun 15, 202533 min

The extraordinary science of creativity with Marcus du Sautoy

The Matts are joined in the studio by one of the world’s greatest explainers of science; Marcus du Sautoy to discuss his new book Blueprints: How Mathematics Shapes Creativity. It’s a thrilling conversation which leaves both Matts wondering … why can’t maths lessons in schools be this interesting?! Join them as Marcus explains how great art, music and literature all have the power of numbers embedded within - and how maths can transform your personal creativity. But first - the Matts discuss the...

Jun 12, 20251 hr

Down and out in the manosphere - with James Bloodworth

The Matts are joined by author James Bloodworth whose new book Lost Boys is a brilliantly insightful exploration of misogyny and conspiracy rife within groups of young men today. James does what many journalists don’t - he goes on the road, all over the world, to meet with his subjects and understand what drives this alarming phenomenon. From Red Pill and Black Pill conspiracies to Instagram’s algorithmic gateway into Andrew Tate, James explains how the manosphere works … starting with his own f...

Jun 10, 202549 min

Is the Brexit argument now behind us?

Today on The Two Matts podcast Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. They discuss whether the New World means the Brexit argument is now behind us, the emotive language around treating sex offenders and whether Keir Starmer needs to be replaced by a better entertainer. There’s also talk of whether Thames Water should be turned into a mutual, Donald Trump’s madness and tacos. OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2...

Jun 08, 202529 min

The New European becomes The New World - with Alastair Campbell

The Matts are joined by Alastair Campbell to discuss today’s big news - the rebrand of The New European to The New World. Why are we changing? Who is The New World for? Who will be writing in it... and about what. All will be revealed. Founder and editor-in-chief Matt Kelly and editor-at-large Matthew d’Ancona explain the thinking and ambition behind this new chapter in the publishing success that started life as a 4-week pop-up… and turned into the fastest growing title in the UK. While Alastai...

Jun 05, 202555 min

Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Putin?

Britain faces an unprecedented litany of threat, at home and abroad. If you want to know just how bad it is, don’t worry - we’ve got the full list. The Matts praise Keir Starmer’s response … and explore the consequences. Also - why Hope Not Hate are the good guys and a humbling encounter with Ed Vaizey. It’s all going on! Enjoy! EXCLUSIVE OFFER: Get The New European for just £1 for the first month. Head to theneweuropean.co.uk/2matts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Jun 03, 202546 min

Rwanda 2.0, communications failures and Jane Austen accents

Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. The pair discuss whether the Trump administration is aping the Tories' Rwanda scheme, why the government is so bad at communications and if Cyril Ramaphosa is really someone to admire. Plus the best way to treat prisoners with mental health or substance issues, the MAGA maniacs sticking their noses into the Polish elections and posh accents in Jane Austen dramas. EXCLUSIVE OFFER: Get The New European for just £1 for the first month. ...

Jun 01, 202537 min

What were Musk and Trump smoking?

The falling out between Elon Musk and Donald Trump was predictable enough but consequential all the same. The Matts explore what this says about the Trump administration and the personal damage to Musk. Also - as Sadiq Khan calls for the decriminalisation of small amounts of cannabis, the Matts take a deep breath and try to bring some perspective to an issue that has sent all their usual dopes into a frenzy. Enjoy! EXCLUSIVE OFFER: Get The New European for just £1 for the first month. Head to th...

May 29, 202542 min

What the tragedy in Liverpool tells us about Britain

The shocking events in Liverpool remain the source of more questions than answers, but one particular area - the disclosure that the suspect is “white British” - speaks volumes about the country we have become. The Matts consider the history of erroneous rushes to judgement - and how this age of social media makes the consequences of those errors so much worse. Also this week - what’s Farage’s plan … and how can Starmer stop him? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 27, 202551 min

The Daily Mail, wisdom and nostalgia for the Tories

Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. They discuss whether Keir Starmer really believes the Daily Mail can ever be won over, if there's a case for the study of wisdom in the age of AI and whether they share one reader's nostalgia for the dying days of the last Tory government. Plus there's talk about whether the media panders to Nigel Farage and Donald Trump, the groupthink of the Lobby and the collective madness over Oasis. EXCLUSIVE OFFER: Get The New European for just...

May 25, 202534 min

Chemical castration and the government’s prison plan … is it nuts?

Is the government’s new plan for dealing with our burgeoning prison population sensible? And is it a vote winner? Two very different questions - the Matts discuss. And did the red top tabloids fall for the oldest trick in the art of political communications? Also this week - what did Trump’s Oval Office ambush of the South African President this week add up to? More than It appears is the Matts verdict. Enjoy! EXCLUSIVE OFFER: Get The New European for just £1 for the first month. Head to thenewe...

May 22, 202544 min

Brexit is dead. Long live the future

The Matts are on something of a high. This week’s EU deal suddenly feels much more consequential than they’d expected. Credit (for once) to Starmer … even in his technocratic monotone, he presided over a clear vibe shift in the UK’s relationship with the EU. No, it doesn’t go nearly far enough. No, it’s not rejoin. But yes … it’s a new pathway and it feels like we have, finally, a PM willing to start fixing the mess of the last 9 years. The hard yards start now, but at least we can be confident ...

May 20, 202550 min

The big PR debate, Labour comms and Green populism

The Matts touched a nerve last week with some comments about the desirability of proportional representation… or otherwise! Here they have it out and reach some surprising conclusions about how the UK should choose its MPs. Also - is Labour misdiagnosing its problems? Can there be a surge of Green populism? Will we ever see see the likes of José Mujica again? And is one personal jumbo jet really ever enough? Enjoy! EXCLUSIVE OFFER: Get The New European for just £1 for the first month. Head to th...

May 18, 202549 min
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