The Two Matts

Join The New World's Matt Kelly and Matt d'Ancona plus occasional guests for weekly chat on politics and media with a side of cultural stuff. A podcast in the spirit of the award-winning New World newspaper - irreverent, witty, surprising, argumentative ... and annoying all the right people.

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Episodes

A history of Brexit in 256 disasters

The Matts celebrate the launch of A History of Brexit in 256 Disasters, a book by Jonty Bloom with a foreword by Alastair Campbell and amazing illustrations by Martin Rowson chronicling the disastrous consequences of the 2016 referendum 10 long years ago! You can get your copy at The New World 's website or on Amazon (if you must!). Also, in part two - is Canada a model for British reinvention, and what does Andy Burnham mean by The Makerfield Test? Enjoy! Produced by Matt Withers OFFER: Get The...

Jun 18, 2026•36 min

The Two Matts Q&A: Do you really want your country back?

The Matts answer questions from listener’s including; are we heading for a summer of discontent; do we understand what people mean when they say they want their country back; should pensioners lose the triple lock; is Andy Burnham cutting the mustard in Makerfield; do too many kids go to university; and can you both please have another massive argument about Artemis? Enjoy! Produced by Ruby Mitchell. OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/...

Jun 13, 2026•30 min

Farewell David Hockney … and farewell Keir Starmer too?

The Matts digest the events from yesterday and the underlying duplicity at the heart of government that resulted in the blistering resignations of John Healey and Al Cairns. How much longer can (or should) Starmer stay on? Also … the dreadful news that the great David Hockney has died. The Matts have a suggestion for how to mark his passing. Enjoy! Produced by Ruby Mitchell OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/ Hosted on Acast. Se...

Jun 12, 2026•25 min

Britain is in grave danger of disintegrating

The horrific attack by a Sudanese asylum seeker in Belfast has triggered a wave of disorder. What is underpinning the violence, and what can liberals not afford to dismiss it out of hand? It’s time again to face into very difficult questions … questions the far right have simplistic answers to but which have been left hanging by a Westminster elite out of touch, even contemptuous, of an angry electorate. Join the Matts as they navigate their way through this troubled territory. Produced by Ruby ...

Jun 11, 2026•58 min

The Two Matts Q&A: Will Starmer survive, and has the Pope got it right on AI?

The Matts answer listeners’ questions in their weekly Q&A session, including: Is Kemi Badenoch now the best chance of beating Nigel Farage; can Keir Starmer actually see off this slow-moving coup; should Palantir be kicked out of the NHS; what is Michael Grade thinking when he defends GB News; has Pope Leo’s encyclical made sense of AI… and humanity; and if England win the World Cup, will it really count? Enjoy! Produced by Matt Withers OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first mont...

Jun 06, 2026•40 min

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