The Tuple Podcast

Ben Orenstein•podcast.tuple.app

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Ben Orenstein interviews great programmers about their craft.

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Episodes

Adam Wathan, Creator of Tailwind CSS

Ben and Adam Wathan cover the development and reimagining of Tailwind CSS, focusing on the release of Tailwind 4.0. They delve into the motivation behind the rewrite, the challenges faced, and the approach to maintaining backward compatibility. The conversation covers topics related to software versioning, open-source maintenance, backward compatibility, the use of Rust in Tailwind, testing strategies, and the future of Tailwind as a business. Links Tuple.app ( https://tuple.app ) - The best app...

Jun 10, 2024•1 hr•Ep. 9

Matt Swanson, CTO at Arrows

Ben and Matt discuss the role of a product engineer and Matt's journey as a content creator. Matt shares his experience working at a consulting agency and how it shaped his perspective on engineering. They also discuss the benefits of working in-person and the importance of the quality of coworkers. Matt reflects on his motivation for content creation and how it ties into his competitive nature. They touch on the changing landscape of content creation and the value of posting code snippets, and ...

May 27, 2024•45 min•Ep. 8

Derrick Reimer, Founder of SavvyCal

In this conversation, Ben and Derrick discuss the challenges of growing a business and the decision to target specific market segments. They explore the trade-offs between serving a broad audience and focusing on a niche market. They also discuss the technical choices and architectural decisions in building a product, with Derrick sharing his positive experience with Elixir and the Phoenix framework. Links Tuple.app ( https://tuple.app ) - The best app for pair programming SavvyCal.com ( https:/...

May 13, 2024•46 min•Ep. 7

Thorsten Ball, Software Engineer at Zed

In this episode, Ben chats with Thorsten Ball. This conversation fits neatly into two halves - in the first, Ben and Thorsten go deep on how to differentiate yourself, work in public, and make it easy for people to hire you. In the second part of the conversation, they talk more specifically about Zed, why it matters, and how it’s being built. Links Tuple.app ( https://tuple.app ) - The best app for pair programming Thorsten’s website ( https://thorstenball.com ) - Where you can find his books, ...

Apr 22, 2024•1 hr 13 min•Ep. 6

Andreas Kling, Creator of SerenityOS and the Ladybird Browser

Ben interviews Andreas Kling, creator of SerenityOS and the Ladybird browser. They talk about the concept of lifestyle software and how it relates to the development of SerenityOS, Andreas’ vision of creating a Zen garden for developers, and the benefits of using a mono repo and a unified language in the development process. They also touch on the use of AI and language models for writing code, the art of using Copilot effectively, and the future of LLMs in pair programming. Enjoy! Links Tuple.a...

Apr 01, 2024•1 hr 11 min•Ep. 5

Fable Tales, Staff Engineer at Stripe

In this conversation, Fable and Ben dig deep on building a technical career that balances programming and company leadership. Fable shares their experience working at Stripe and the different roles they have held, including being a technical advisor to the CTO. They also discuss Fable's career move from being a hands-on programmer to role where less hands-on coding is required, Fable's take on "code crimes", and how to find enjoyment and fulfillment in solving complex problems. Links Tuple.app -...

Mar 18, 2024•1 hr 6 min•Ep. 4

Josh Pigford, Creator of Maybe.co

In this episode, Ben interviews Josh Pigford, founder of Maybe.co , about the company’s journey from VC-backed startup -> closed startup -> open source project -> funded open source project. They discuss JavaScript and Rails trade-offs, the challenges of building a personal finance software, and the operational difficulties of building a business based on open source software. Links Tuple.app - The best app for pair programming Maybe.co - The fintech startup Josh founded NodeJS - The st...

Feb 23, 2024•52 min•Ep. 3

Caleb Porzio, Creator of AlpineJS and Laravel Livewire

In this conversation, Ben interviews Caleb Porzio, the creator of AlpineJS and Laravel Livewire. The discussion ranges from discussions about life in general to specific testing practices and which notebook Caleb uses. Links Tuple.app - The best app for pair programming AlpineJS Laravel Livewire Caleb's VSCode Course Takeaways Apply core truths to life outside of programming. Find ways to make difficult tasks easier. Change your environment to support your goals. Value tests as much as, if not m...

Feb 06, 2024•1 hr 24 min•Ep. 2

Taylor Otwell, Creator of Laravel

In this conversation, Ben interviews Taylor Otwell, the creator of Laravel. They discuss everything from the age-old argument of tabs vs. spaces to the origins of Laravel and how Taylor has turned it into a thriving, sustainable business. Links: Laravel, the framework Taylor created Tuple, used by the Laravel team to collaborates Takeaways Coding preferences and philosophies can vary among developers and programming ecosystems. Maintaining backwards compatibility is important for frameworks with...

Jan 24, 2024•1 hr 4 min•Ep. 1

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