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you. This is our 10th city and we're going coast to coast in the month of September, on the theory that it's a beautiful country and if you live here and plan to die here, you should see it and also on the theory that you know everything's censored but you can't censor a live event. If all the places we've been and this is totally sincere, I'm especially grateful to being Grand Rapids. I've been coming to Grand Rapids since I was a teenager. I didn't hear
what you said but I think I agree with you. I grew up in a totally different part of the country, a beautiful part of the country but a much less wholesome part of the country. I wound up dating a girl when I was 15, after I turned 15, whose family was from Grand Rapids. I've been coming here consistently for 40 years, initially trying to woo her, make the sale. It's a little harder
than it was with girls where I grew up but worth it. I continue to think this is just one of the greatest places ever and that the wind and I'll be totally blunt with you since no one's less saying that the women Michigan producers really are at a higher level. I mean that. I mean that. Just the nicest and the cutest if I can say but just the nicest. In a fear of married man in the state of Michigan, the chances are that you've been barked at this morning very very low,
very low. The chances that someone's just been really nice to you are incredibly high. And so it's like wild that your state is run by like the worst woman I've ever seen. And it's weird. It's so weird. I remember telling my son when he was like eight. I was like you have got to marry a girl from Michigan. You just have to. It just works. It's incredible. Hunting season. I'm going to be hunting for. Of course you are. There's understanding, kind, warm,
oh the best. And so then I wake up in the morning and I'm like who is running that state? And it really is kind of a metaphor for everything, really for the entire country. You know if you read about Michigan, I mean I come here a lot because of all my wife's family here and all our friends here and one of my favorite people in Michigan is going to be joining us
in just a minute. One of the one of the great boosters of Michigan. Trust me, I've been I've been to a lot of places with Kid Rock and wherever he is, he is representing the state of Michigan at full volume. Really they ought to give him the tourist bureau ought to give him a commission because he is the most loyal son the state has ever produced. But anyway if you read about the state, you're like wow that place is really screwed up. And then you come here and you don't meet a single
person who is capable of screwing up anything. You don't meet a single that every single person you meet in the state of Michigan is kind and straightforward and nice and loves his family and musky fishing and like all the good things loves walleye you know it's like who are who are all these people who are allowing someone like Gretchen Whitmer or Dana Nessel like who actually voted
for Dana Nessel. I always wonder that. Nobody nobody there's like nobody. It was like Bill DeBlasio in New York the city of eight million people you couldn't find a single one who admitted voting for the guy. And he got you may not even know that is but he was a spectacularly stupid mayor that they had. It's really just unbelievable. People like Whitmer like Whitmer but without the face lifts but like
Whitmer is totally right. I'll never forget during COVID because I've been you know a booster of your state and I can do like I can point on my hand or things are and I know what the UP is and like I am kind of an adopted son of the state. I've shot a bunch of your birds. I caught a ton of your fish. I married one of your girls like I am basically from Michigan and I remember someone saying to me once like the governor of Michigan Gretchen something who I think is actually from Grand Rapids area
amazingly. Band the sale of paint in paint stores. I'll never forget this during COVID. And I was like that's obviously an urban myth. That's a legend. That's like they're eating the pets in Springfield Ohio. That's not really true. That can't be true. You're not really eating the pets. Actually they are. She can't really have banned the sale of paint. Is paint a well-known vector for Chinese viruses? What? That's crazy. I know Michigan what? And seeds. Yeah no planting
flowers during a global pandemic. You knew that. That's just like basic epidemiology. So I remember saying clearly something has been lost in the translation that's not really real. She didn't really do that because I want to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Obviously no one's that stupid. And then you wouldn't like keep everyone in the state indoors but let your husband go off to your cottage and go fishing at a bow rental that was close to everybody else. You wouldn't do
that would you? Because that would really just be like giving the finger to the entire state that people who vote for you. And then you look it up and you're like actually like the pet eating totally true. And so then the question arises well how did this happen? So we learned two things okay. The first thing is the leaders of a place whether it's a state or a town or a country. Do not necessarily reflect the people they lead or who live there at all. In other words you can have a
place that's amazing. That's great on every level. It's incredibly beautiful as this state genuinely is. You can have like the best people in the entire country and they can be led by like a brain dead robot who bans paint sales the name of COVID protection. Like that happens. You can't judge a place by its leaders which itself is a kind of challenge to the idea of a constitutional republic or a democracy because of course the core idea is the people rule. It's their country.
It's their city. It's their states or neighborhood. It's their nation. And the people who run it aren't kings or queens or archdukes. They're naughty. It's not even a military hunta. It's just a bunch of ordinary people who are serving at the pleasure of the population. They're the employees. It's like your housekeeper but maybe less talented. But still your employee. And if you catch him stealing or being creepy you can just can't. I'm sorry you work for me out
of here honey. You know what I mean? Learn to paint houses. So how could it be that leaders don't reflect the essential character of a place? That's anti-democratic. I mean in other words when you come to Michigan if the democracy is functioning as intended you would expect to find millions upon millions of little Gretchen Whitmers. Don't people with facelift saying nonsensical things. But that's the opposite of what you find.
So what does that tell you? It tells you the system is not working as intended. Okay so that's the first thing you learn. And the second thing you learn is that there's a reason for that. And that's it. People who are not with the program may be mad but they're not actually voting. They're not actually voting. Now why is that? Well I think I know. And I'm not here to scold anybody. I mean trust me. There have been many times where I'm like I know that people running
for office. A little bit too well to vote for them. Or you just feel like what does it matter? The system is fake obviously. In 2020 you never saw a single Joe Biden. Joe Biden didn't even exist actually. He's like a hologram at this point. But in 2020 you're like I never met a single person who's voting for quote Joe Biden. And he got like over a billion votes. He got more votes or maybe more than that. I think he got more votes in the population of the earth. And you're like you look
at that. And if oh don't say fake that's not allowed. By the way that's not on Wikipedia. Wikipedia says it was totally on the level. Therefore it must be. To this day if you go on a Google product YouTube you're not allowed to question the last election which is usually a sign. Whenever someone tells you you're not allowed to have an opinion it's pretty near proof that that opinion is true. They're not banning lies in this country. Trust me. There's no penalty for
lying. What was the last time someone got busted for lying? Do you remember? That's no longer a crime. They lied to you from the podium every single day. The Biden administration's illiterate spokesperson you can't understand what she's saying. But you can be certain because her lips are moving that all of it is untrue but she will never be held to account. Tony Fauci still has a secret service detail.
Do you have? Yeah boo yeah. The only people protecting him should be prison guards. I mean honestly. Yeah boo. Boo is right. So obviously there's no penalty for lying. So if they're telling you you can't say something take it to the bank. Bet your house. What you're saying is true. And that's why they hate it because it's a threat to their lies. Right? So I mean this is all very obvious. You don't need to be a political scientist with or a college graduate which I'm not to understand
the basic dynamics in life which is honest people are not afraid of different opinions. They're not afraid of your opinion. The only people who are afraid of talking are people with something to hide. And what they're afraid of is that you might expose them. And it's of course exactly why they hate Trump. It is nothing to do with this program. Trump's like the least radical person in the world. Trump's like completely moderate actually. But that's how they care about. What they care about is
Trump's irrepressible tendency to say things that are not on the script. They don't trust Trump not to tell the truth. You know you can write a 10,000 word speech for Trump but you can't be certain then right in the middle of it. You won't be like, and another thing and then tell the truth about you. So if you're trying to hide something really really obvious like I don't know you murdered Jeffrey Epstein or something. As if nobody knows really Epstein didn't kill himself or you serious.
Right. Everybody already knows that. But the people who did it are really worried and did a million other things. Oh it wasn't safe and effective seriously. They're worried that Trump will just go off script and tell the truth. They are not worried. They're always like, oh Trump's such a liar. He's such a liar. He bragged about his crowd size or his hands or his like, no, no.
That's not why you hate Trump. If he was a liar you'd love him. You'd vote for him. No. You're worried that he will accidentally tell the truth about you. And so, sorry, speaking of getting far afield. And so, you know, you're not allowed to question the 2020 election, but I think just like you're not allowed to question the COVID-vax. What else you're not allowed to question? I can't hear you. I didn't I'm not endorsing that. Just like you can't question, you know, human cause climate change or
whatever you can't question. You can't question for a reason. Boy, this is a sporty crowd. Go grand rapids. I love it. But people don't vote because they look at all of this. They're like, you know, what's the point the system is fake? They do think that. I find myself feeling that way at times. Well, of course it's fake, but it doesn't mean your vote doesn't matter. It doesn't mean you couldn't overwhelm them to such a degree they couldn't steal it. You could actually.
And especially now, because something wild is happening that nobody is talking about it. I almost never talk about politics because it, well, I don't know that much about it to be completely honest. Having spent my life around it, I understand the less than I ever have. I couldn't tell you how many electoral votes your state has, you know, just being honest. 20? 16. Okay, that sounds about right.
16. Okay. So there are political experts here. But here's what I notice. If you get it, one of the reasons I don't get to into the weeds or the facts of electoral politics is sometimes it obscures the bigger picture. And the bigger picture as far as I'm concerned, just as a observer of it, and as someone who's traveled across the country in the last few weeks, is that there is some kind of weird and huge realignment going on, massive realignment going on. And it's not your imagination at all.
I mean, Kid Rocks coming up on stage. I mean, the guy, entertainers didn't use to do stuff like this before crowds like this. Two nights ago, we had Bobby Kennedy on. And I've always liked Bobby Kennedy because he's a sportsman, you know, he's an outdoorsman. He's a hundred and a fisherman, you know, and I like people like that. And that's more important to me. But Bobby Kennedy was always like a
liberal partisan Democrat. Actually, his name is Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy. And so, you know, I never thought I'd wind up in a place where he had vigorously in a heartfelt way endorsed Donald Trump was promising to work as a part of the Trump administration to help with the transition, become a cabinet secretary, all of which I hope happens, and then be greeted by a crowd of people
who are probably going to vote for Trump as a hero. What? And what does that tell you? It's not just about Bobby Kennedy, who I think is an extraordinary and an incredibly brave person. It tells you that the categories that we've grown up with and that have been used to describe what's happening in our country are lies. And they're designed to mislead us about the truth. And what they're designed to convey is the idea that the country is much more divided than it actually is. That's what I
notice. If I experience what's happening in America on my phone, which unfortunately I do, I live at the other end of the country in a really rural area, and I don't know what's going on in America, so I like to look at my stupid phone. And I see an unending litany of sad stories about how much Americans hate each other. You know, in the basis of politics, especially in the basis of race, but gender, two men, women hate each other, black people, white people hate each other,
Democrats hate each other, it's all a bunch of hate. And then you get actually out into the country, and I don't know where that's taking place, but nowhere I've been, this is my 10th city. No one has ever come up to me, not one time. I've been like, I hate you for your skin color, you hate me for your skin color, I hate you for you, no one ever says anything like that. Everybody's really nice. I don't know where all the hateful people are. I mean, I do know the
exist. I guess they're all in the Biden administration. But they don't seem to be wandering around the strip malls of America, the coffee shops, or the hotel lobbies, or all the places I've been. I never meet them at the airport, occasionally if I go skiing in Jackson, away, I'm hanging there a lot of rich ladies waiting in the lift line. If you're at the main gym, no, that main gym is fine, but if you go into the four seasons for the elk chile,
there's always some angry woman with a facelift, like, mad at you, racist. All right. So there's like 100th of the population who are super, super unhappy, possibly having an affair with the Eugen structure, who are married to finance guys who are really, really angry, not possibly, certainly. And they're really angry, but I don't see that anywhere else ever.
And so then you think, well, wait a second, if the experience that I have wandering around the country I was born in bears no resemblance to what I'm told, then maybe that's not the only lie they're telling me. And maybe most people do not hate each other, despite the best efforts of the people running the country to make them hate each other. For like 60 years. All of American history taught from elementary school through postgraduate is designed to make
you think that Americans hate each other on the basis of race. That's the whole point of it. It is. I'm not going to use the naughty word you just used, but I endorse it completely. It was a synonym for false, and that's exactly what it is. It's false. That is not true. But you think about it for a second. It's like, why would they be telling you that? And then you think about the sort of person who would want a population to hate each other.
And that's like the darkest thing you could ever want for people. And if you're a parent, you know that. If you're a parent, the most important thing to you is that your children love each other. That's the most important thing. Because they're your children. You're in charge of them. And when you die, all you leave behind, all that remains of your family, all that exists of your life is the love between your children. That's where your memory lives is in the love that they have
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It doesn't appear to be working. If Americans believe the things they hear about each other in their country, they would have been in a permanent race war like 50 years ago. You wouldn't be able to drive from New York to Los Angeles. There'd be roadblocks of people with guns that would be lepidon. But it's the opposite of that. That tells you once again that the country itself, which means it's people and it's dogs. Dogs are a reflection of the people,
and we have the best dogs, heck yes. We have the best dogs in the world. We do. And dogs do take on the characters of their owners. That's true. But the people of this country are loving good people who are being led by the worst people who have ever led a country. And that is just true. I think that's true. I mean it. My love of Americans and my loathing of their leaders deepens every day that we're on the road, it really, really does.
Because the disconnect. So what can you do about it? Well, you can vote. I don't think I've ever encouraged anyone to vote ever. But I feel like in this state it's particularly important. I'm not a political person. I'm not here on behalf of Canada. Probably guess what I'm voting for. I actually am voting this year. I am. I am. But I do think people should vote in the state of Michigan. Because there's absolutely no reason you should be led by people who do not share the most
basic values of the people of Michigan. And I mean from I always beat up on the East Coast of Michigan, my wife is actually from the Detroit area. I know, boo. Oh, I agree. I know. I know. I know. And whenever I talk about Michigan, I'm like, there are actually two sides to it. And the West Coast is way nicer. But the truth is there are super nice people over there too. And Northern Michigan is just like a wonder. It's incredible. And none of you deserve, none of you deserve your leaders, none
of you. I don't care. It's true. Even the people who vote for them don't deserve them if I can just say. You often hear we get the leaders we deserve. That's a total lie. No, you don't. No, you don't. And you see that around the world. I know there are plenty of countries with horrible leaders. Those people don't deserve them. Nobody deserves leaders like that. And so I did hear of something
really cool that I have never done anything like this. What I'm going to do it now. There's actually a website in the state of Michigan where you can find people who probably would vote for the candidate you're voting for. But don't vote. And you can look them up. The voter rolls are right there. It's called 10X votes. And you can go on there and just contact people you know. And be like, hey, by the way,
you don't we don't deserve this. These people are horrible. And we're not horrible. We're great. And if you're frustrated with these people, even if you don't think the system works, even if you think it's all fake, even if they're going to steal it in the end, that's not exactly true. You can overwhelm their their malintent by your voting. And at the very least you can you can give them the largest middle finger ever wagged in the face of anybody by voting against him. I do think it's
important. Yeah, that finger, the one you just waved. That's right. I'm not going to do that because it's wrong. But I do love that gesture because it's just I don't trust I'm in the word business. And I don't really trust words anymore. I'm not going to do that. Kid rocks about to be here. He literally has that painted on the tail of his plane. And I'll let him explain who that's aimed at.
I can't. If my if my Michigan born wife saw me hoisting the middle finger in front of some of her relatives who were in this room tonight, she would look at me with a paint face in that squeaky and adorable and honestly kind of sexy Michigan accent. And say to me, that's not very nice. My wife always says to me in her Michigan accent, you don't hate anybody. I don't want to admit that actually I kind of do. But anyway, so before I bring Kid Rock out,
I would just I have we've actually thought about even moving here over the years. And because that's so much I love it. And and maybe we will. I mean, who knows what's going to happen. But if I lived here, I would just I would get right. Can you imagine me governor of Michigan? That that would be. That would be a hard job. It would be so great though. I'm telling you, we would have wall idea if I. But the two things I would keep in mind if I lived here, the two things I would keep
in mind is that actually the people of your state are great. Your state is great. Your state is beautiful. I would not let them tell you otherwise. And even Detroit's a little better than they say. I just said dinner there. It is, it is. It is. It is. I've been to a lot of crappy places around the world. And everyone's like, oh, Detroit, you know, the rents and the giant fist and all this stuff. It's like, it's actually kind of a cool city. I'm just being honest. This is a cool state. It really,
it really is from the top to the bottom. It is a cool state. And by the way, when Chicago burned, everyone's like, was Chicago so cool? Where did all the wood come from to rebuild Chicago? Does anyone know? It came from Michigan. And what does that tell you? It tells you that everybody wants a piece of Michigan. Okay, that's the first thing it tells you. The second thing it tells you is have a little
self-respect. Okay, if Illinois comes knocking, it's like, we want all your stuff so you took it once never again. We're Michigan. Okay. Okay. But just remember that what you have is awesome. It is just awesome. It's people in the landscape. It's awesome. And it is, you know, I can understand why people leave. I'm in Florida a lot and you meet an awful lot of people from Michigan. I know. And they're
like, oh yeah, we moved to Florida. We couldn't deal with it. And you're like, I get it. I get it. But I don't know. Stay in fight. I guess that's what I would say. It's worth it. Okay. That's the first thing I have to remember. And the second thing I would remember is that you're not crazy. You're not crazy. They spend all their time trying to convince you it's such a sly up. You're crazy. I'm crazy. Have you ever seen Dana Nestle? That? Talk about crazy eyes. By the way,
if you have time, like when you get home tonight, you got your iPhone. If you don't know who Dana Nestle is, I mean, you should because she has a big effect on your state. Type in her face into Google images and just like expand it and look at her eyes. Whoa. If you've ever trapped a raccoon in the garage with a broom. No, I'm serious. And like you go through life like, oh, raccoons are so cute and they're little hands. They kind of have opposable thumbs and they're little like robber mask
eyes and they're so cute. You ever catch one in the garage eating dog food at night? Whoa. You realize this is a vicious animal. It's bite your face off, right? And you know from their eyes and Dana Nestle has those eyes. So for Dana Nestle to be calling you crazy, are you joking? Oh, no. You're not the crazy ones. And that is the beauty of an event like this. Is you get to be in a room and you can feel it. Even if you don't talk to anybody, you can feel the
vibe. I can feel it's backstage. One of the people I traveled with from Maine said to me, oh, do you feel the vibe out there with good people? You can literally feel it. And what that tells you is that the things that you want, like decent schools and roads with that holes in them and the ability to walk to the grocery store without getting mugged and like an inflation rate that's under 12% and maybe a little cottage you share with your
cousins up north, like just sort of normal things. Maybe a little continuity. Maybe the right to live in a state that's not completely different from the state you grew up in. That's a right actually. They're always inventing rights. You have a right to this. You have a right to that. What usually means you're getting nothing, okay? Yeah, oh, I'm aware, baby. And I'm aware. And again, you use profanity, but I'm with you, okay? But there is a right that every person has, which is
to be a little bit insulated from like having their state invaded and changed overnight. Actually, sorry, it's just true. Like you shouldn't wake up in a place where you were born and not recognize. Everything's totally different. All the attitudes different. The people are different. The economy's totally different. That's like an act of violence against you actually. That's not the promise of America. The promise of America is that things get a little better, not maybe radically
better, but your kids have a shot at a little better life than you had. That's the American dream. The American dream is not that you wake up and like you don't even recognize this place. And you know for a fact that your kids are not going to be going to little cottage. They share with their cousins up north. They're not going to be able to afford a house. That's the opposite of the American dream. So I guess what I'm saying is what you want is totally sensible and moderate
and reasonable and human and basic. It's not crazy. It's not asking for like a fleet of helicopters or free ice cream. They're the free ice cream party. You just kind of want to go to the grocery store without getting mugged or going broke. And they tell you that you're insane because you're against like I don't know castrating children. That's not insane. They're insane. So just look around remember that. Take heart. You are not the freak. Dana Nestle's the freak with sharp teeth and
raccoon eyes. Gretchen Whitmer is the freak with the facelift and the paint sales bands. You're a freak. If you had a cousin like that growing up and she came over to Thanksgiving people would talk very quietly around her. Because who knows when she has a fork in her hand. Who knows what she'll do with it? Everybody has a relative like that. How does yours become governor? I don't know. But don't let her convince you that she's the normal one. She's not. Well, sorry.
And so with that, let me introduce somebody who needs no introduction whatsoever. The only thing I will add to this I called him the most faithful loyal son of the state of Michigan and he is. I will also just add one humble brag by saying he's also my friend. Ladies and gentlemen, Kid Rock. Oh, yeah. Dude. I'm in the dressing room. You might have I start this off. Oh, dude. It's all yours. I literally this is how twisted I am. I'm in the dressing room.
And it's very nice. Get some cold beer in there. Ashtray, a little meat and cheese train, snack tray. And so, you know, I'm looking at snack tray. I'm like, yeah, get Doritos, Fritos. Eminem's this stuff when I go. Fucking Twinkie. Right? From the 80s. Yeah. Well, so I asked one of my friend, Cory, I'm like, dude, when's the last time you had a Twinkie? He's like, man, I'll remember. And I'm like, I remember my mom. He's like, put him in a lunch in elementary school.
I got a special occasion. I go, I went to last time you had a Twinkie. I had to spend a long time. I had one in 1987. Right. So I thought about it again. I'm like, I can't remember one last time at a Twinkie. No one else can either. I was like, they should rename these things blow jobs. I didn't hear it. You said, I'm working clean tonight. Seriously, are there children here? I don't want to be using curse words. I've just children here. So you're a busy man. And this is...
Only my sister-in-law calls me Tuck. That's hilarious. She's from Michigan, actually. So great. What do you think is going on with this election right now? I think Trump's going to kick their ass, honestly. I don't... It reminds me of 2016. I mean, I literally went to bed like a lot of people that night, you know, pulling for Trump on his team, you know, being very vocal. I was like, I'm going to bed and without a lot of faith. I mean, all the polls told you this. They had you convinced if you
looked at any television like, it's no way. He was a joke since he came down the elevator, you know, and so were a lot of us that supported him since he came down that elevator and still been getting shit till this day, which is fine. I kind of like it. But it reminded me of that and then woke up the next morning, like, Trump won. I'm like, what? I've, you know, and I've... It just has the same feeling to me. I'm not a vibey person, but it just has that feeling to me. What's going on?
I mean, I don't know how you can look at this. I mean, you said Oprah, thank you yesterday. I did, but I would... For those, I don't know how many faithful Oprah watchers we have in this in this room, but tell us about it. I think everybody's... I don't know. I didn't watch it, but I caught wind of it, you know, on, you know, the morning news and stuff. It was a joke. It was a complete
joke. Well, in the interview that you're referring to, Kamala Harris, like the big fact of the debate from my perspective was the fact that Kamala Harris owns a gun. And... Yeah, but nobody has... Why is she let have a gun? But nobody, not nobody, that she's done her little interviews with or anything, it says, what kind of gun do you own? Yeah, exactly. You know, just start there. Is it a red rider BB gun? Do you have a shotgun, you know,
size caliber bullet, do you shoot? Do you practice with your arm pieces of for self-defense at home? She just says, I have a gun and everyone's going, oh my god, she's so middle. She's so in the middle. And then you got to... I'd like to watch her clean it. And then while we're at it, then you got this ass clown Tim Walsh, right? Oh my god. I'll get him. I'll get him. I don't mess with a songwriter or a comedian. So I'm listening to this guy and he honestly reminds me of like I think of a few
junior high and high school teachers that I absolutely hate it, right? Mr. Self-righteous. Hey, guys, you're going to do it this way. You know, blah, blah, blah, I'm right, I'm right. You know, I coach football. This that and the other. And then he's, you know, um, you know, where in a camel hat like I'm the best shot. I like to hunt. I'm a hunter. I'm like, yeah, what do you hunt?
Cox and Dicks. I don't know why. And I don't want to be unfair or whatever, but every time I see him talk, I think of that scene from airplane with a pilot's like, never seen a grown man naked, Johnny. I'll tell you this much that Tim Wallace has seen one up close. If you know what I mean, I can't confirm her tonight. I told Trump actually would, you know, we more have fun together. I'm not the big policy guy. I'm happy to give my opinion if asked or whatever, but you know, I'm not a
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So, you are like often photographed with Trump. I just happen to know for a fact. I don't know if it's widely known that you're like legitimately close to like you know Trump very well and have known him for a long time. And I've heard you describe what he's like. Would you mind? He's the greatest. He's, well just, you know you don't hear a lot of people talk about him as a friend. Of course, you know when I really got to know him he was president, that was very enamoring, very nerve-wracking
like it would be in any situation at first. And I mean after you know our first, night dinner with him in the White House and that was great. And then you know our first time golfing is like it's when he's a president, it's a hit show. You know it's you know you're trying to tee off. You're like Jesus Christ. You know I just you can imagine everything going everywhere. And I swear about a second hole. It's like this guy is one of my oldest friends. Like he's just like
my dad's out there with us. God bless him. And he's like don't smoke or drink around the president. He's like don't light up that cigar and don't drink beer around the president. And like third home like Mr. President but he smokes a car. He's like oh he's like oh he's smoked a car. I'm like they called beer on this course. He wants some beer. He went I got I got Hershey bars. He keeps these huge Hershey bars. It is what he's just such a down to earth fun guy you know
and I've seen with his grandkids with his children. A lot of people know him like before we go to golf sometimes he's like hey guys you got to push back a few minutes. He's going to go hit some balls with my granddaughter or something like that. A lot of people don't see that. I mean just when I was I was just in Detroit introducing him for a national guard event right and I took my mom with me and it was really great. My mom on all these years I've never
got to meet him. My dad always went with me and my brother and all that but so I took my dear sweet mother. She loved it was great but right before I'm getting ready to go introduce him. He's got an orange soda like a fanna right. You know and someone's introducing me he's like you want a sip? I'm kind of like and I really didn't and I'm like I like no series like
remember when people used to drink out of the same bottle. Just normal shit like it's not a weirdo they make him out to be some crazed freak in the press and like you know what I'm saying they've done that to us all they've done that to you they've tried to do it to me I'd rather like it myself you know like go for it like. But he's just he's just a terrific human being man and he's so much
fun to be around so much fun to be around. I think if there's one thing I'd say about Trump that I don't think it gets credit for and really deserves credit for I think he's one of the funniest people I've ever met in my entire life. Hands down. Hands down. Funny I wonder if I should tell this story. I think you should. Oh it's so good. I hate to speak out of school you know what I'm
saying. Oh you're you're in school we're in Michigan. Ah fucking it's fun. All right. So well the first time when the White House having dinner was Sarah Palin um Trump invited Sarah this is very early when he just got into the White House and um and he Trump said invites some interesting people so she called me and Ted Nugin right.
Pretty interesting dinner party so we go on the Oval Office to meet him and he's just wide open like kid like blah blah blah is that any other then we conversate take some pictures like anybody want to wash their hands. I'm like I do kind of a germ freak so we go in this little room and we're like we're really like sharing a bar soap and I'm like man this is weird weirdly awesome right and then he goes rock come here we walked down to this other room left to the Oval Office
we're standing there some papers and like Fox News and a picture of George Washington and he goes you know what this room is like no sir he's like this is the modicule witsky room and I'm literally I felt like I was in stepbrothers I'm like did we just become best friends
and so I yelled down the hallway through the Oval Office I'm like Audrey Sarah Ted come here come here they come down to get in the room and I'm like do you guys know what room this is and they're like no and I'm like sir and he's like
it's the modicule witsky room I'm like yes that's just fun that is so I mean and I've been in I've been in I've been fortunate enough to be in the White House a lot of times through the Kennedy Center Honors when you go there and do things you get to come to the White House and been invited for
different things here and there and pretty much got to be around every living president it's some level like actually spend a little time with them and at first time we're in there having dinner he's like have you ever seen uh have you ever seen upstairs the private residence I'm like no he's like
do you watch him like yeah and his his knowledge of American history every painting in there he's like this is Andrew Jackson he did this this this this like every it was like a history lesson the doctors were great he walks by the doctors his doctors are great he's like hey guys if I drop
off a heart attack could you bring me back they're like yes sir he's like they're the best the best like we're just having fun I'm drinking a beer we're going through we go upstairs he's like there's a Gettysburg address I'm like holy shit I have a Lincoln bed we're in the Lincoln
bears the Queens bedroom I'm just like oh my gosh this is my emboy but that's you know just how down to earthy as you know I guess I don't think I'm anybody more special of any other friend than he has uh and just that type of guy's like and and the one thing he said about that when he's
shown us around I go I can't believe he's shown us all this he goes this is the people's house this is your house man that says it all right there I says it all and there's been a million other instances that I that I probably can't recall right now and uh rock and roll has not been too
kind to my memory I think you're doing pretty well considering the road miles west so why do you think why do you think a certain sort of person hates him so much I can't understand that it's okay because it's a level of hatred I've only gotten it one time and it was a kid who was drunk I
had a mega hat on somewhere and actually you were involved that I think of it naturally the kid comes up at this restaurant we have a Nashville and he's like and he's kind of standing there and I like there's some politicians and I think he looked like he might have been a military kid and
let people come up say hello pics life life's turned into a picture as you know this any other that I'm kind of looking I was like fuck darker Carlson fucking Trump at oh my god okay like you done yet yeah it's cool but that's like literally one of the only times but why people
hate him so much I don't know I guess they hate winners jealousy envy I can't figure it out you know they I've heard I've talked to my democratic friends I have a lot of liberal friends obviously the business I'm in you know it's kind of what it is and I can be friends with anybody they can
think differently than me that's fine you know and I'm happy to give them my side and they can give me theirs and we crack a beer and it's all good there's no problem but you know they're like he lies he does this he does that I'm like what channel are you watching because it's it's
honestly it's different on Fox News and I watch them all you know I watch Bill Marve been on Bill Marve show I watch CNN I watch Fox News you know I'm a little bit of a news horror I mean if not sure how healthy it is you'll watch anybody he just like to watch well honestly I don't I don't
know the what's he would you say sorry I'm not calling you P did he's just kidding whoa whoa whoa whoa sorry working blue for a minute um well that's crazy a thousand bottles of lube that's a lot it's a lot it's a lot but I did think of that and I'm like I always try believe it or not to
try to find the positive and anything you know at least search for it before I turn into negative Nancy and I'm like you know sometimes Costco just has a good sale he can't pass it off gotta get the palette yep I got it did that was Styrofoam cups one year they're still in the garage
um a little different uh so um you are in this business you've been in this business entertainment music among artists your entire life and I bet there are some who agree with you but there are very very few who've been as honest about having the views that you have was that a tough to see
I mean it's gotta be a decision you're in a business why'd you make that decision I mean part of it was you know I got older and wiser but to be honest like I had the money in the bank and at the end of the day I when I really thought about it I just sounds hokey but I just care about
this country too much and and I said you know I kind of said you know and it was really conscious thing I just started kind of doing it you know getting involved and one thing led to another and it was like you know it was kind of you know I had a couple talks with just friends I'm not one of
these people that has this big machine team have this big team around them were you know every clearly every tweets not screen yeah I picked up on that comes out of my mouth or the decisions I make it's I take responsibility for it all it's me there's no filters in there but when it came
was like you know there's gonna be no corporate deals to send the other and I'm like good I'm like I'm so sick of dealing with those I'll try not to curse so much you know and the BS that goes on in these corporate things and I've only aligned myself with you know things that of course like
I deal with them I do with Jim Beam I do with Harley Davidson and Chevy trucks it's like these are all things that you know I was involved it but in still even though I used all those things like dealing with the corporate bullshit I was like yeah if I never see that again I could care less
and there's no amount of money on the face of this earth because I've turned down tons of it they would ever get me to be vocal or be somebody I'm not and then people would see somebody different than who I really am hey I just got to say you make it sound easy I know a lot of people in your
business in the entertainment business obviously and they don't reach the same conclusion you did actually I think it's a harder decision than you're admitting like I said I had to money in the bank so it was you know a lot of people don't want to mess with their bottom line a lot of people
anybody this goes for anybody they don't you know they're scared of their social standing you know God forbid mom drops off the kids at school the MAGA hat on you know what I mean you're like oh all of a sudden you know you're this this polarizing you know divisive person because you said
don't want to make America great again I was like how dare you you know it's just it's and people are scared I'm one thing I've been a lot of things one thing I've never been scared that's for sure hey man so has it do you do you think it has cost you no I was planning on it
probably you know like hey you have the potential to give up a lot and I'm like I don't care say whatever this tells me it's the right thing to do this is what my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ tells me it's the right thing to do and I'm gonna follow my heart and you know it's crazy because
there's some times where it goes like this and it's you know it's very vocal it will last however many years and the last full tour I did a few years ago the only thing I did to promote it was the thing I did with you that was it into one piece of prize we sold out every city on that tour
and you know it just goes to show you if if if you speak your truths and I mean they have to be your truths that's something you heard not something you're repeating to get somewhere to get to a certain stature but if it's really your truths you your families your friends things you believe
in like good things will come that is where I love hearing you say that I think it's true where did you learn that I don't know Detroit you know you know I learned a lot of that when I was very young I was like the white kid that hung out in the in the black areas and I was a DJ and I break dance
and all this stuff and I remember back then like if I would try to fit in like back then we're like a troop suit and have on like this cool hip hop stuff what's the truth what's a troop suit like LL cool J used to wear moves this big thing in the 80s like it was some straight hip hop shit like
you know and I was really this nerdy little kind of you know white skateboarding kid you know that came from a really nice middle upperclass family from Romeo Michigan but I'm like you know thank you I'm very proud of that and my friends are kind of like I was mad with him that boys confused
like you know and then when I would kind of just be myself and I'd kind of have a minority painters cap and my skateboard gear and I'm doing my DJ and like people responded more they I was just myself they people could see people can see through you they can tell if you're real or not and so I kind
of learned that through that experience young at least that's one of them that's so smart so how okay so you now spend part of the year obviously you're still in Michigan a lot of the year but you are also in Nashville which is really the center of the music business um and like everybody in
the business seems to live there how do they treat well I feel I have to I feel like I should just tell the people of Michigan that I I said for years there's no way I will ever live out of Michigan ever right I live in Nashville now and I'll tell you why I still up in Charlevoi all summer long and
but you know I never thought I would have another residence for Michigan I figured you know I'd die Michigan resident that's just the way it was and you know have other homes because I've worked hard and been blessed um my son you know but the school of raised him in Clarkston
Michigan he went to St. Richard Lake St. Mary's and then he went to college in a small Christian school called called a Belmont had my granddaughter while in college with his eighth grade sweetheart they eventually got married I have my second grandson now um but after he finished college he was
in Nashville for several months and I'm like I always had a condo down there kind of like a party house and uh it was no fun and so I finally know when I'm like well son I'm like when you come back to Michigan to you know learn how to sweep the floors and maybe figure it out and work your
way up and run one of these businesses he's like I'm not coming back not coming back to Detroit not coming back to Michigan I'm like you know coming back to the mecca of Detroit I'm like hmm like yeah okay all right I'll be right there so so my son and my grandkids probably in Nashville and
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so how do the how do the other artists like when you're you know sitting around your house you people over your studio your dinner wow what a lighter that's serious speaking of the 80s that's an 80s later I mean do you ever have like political I mean are they on your side secretly
do you think who's that the other artists in Nashville I mean Nashville's a lot more conservative obviously from the country music scene but honestly I mean I mean I hang out with everybody I can care you know I mean there's a short movie thing I don't know if anybody's seen it did it years
ago with Sean Penn it's called Americans it's on YouTube and it's about you know thinking differently having completely different political views and how basically thinking differently is what made this country great you know I'm still gonna hold my views you're gonna hold yours but
we can find more in common at the end of the day you know there's some things I'm just not gonna budge on and some people you know like like old Democrats didn't scare me blue dog Democrats would call them you know I mean like Al Gore some Nashville like Robert Kennedy Jr.
If you would have ran like got elected doesn't scare me it's these freaking weirdos you know these far left Marxist borderline communist freak socialist weirdos that creep me out are there still I mean since your question I don't know the answer but there used to be you know
for generations a hundred years union Democrats in the state of Michigan who were like pro-America Hunters Fisherman you know masculine men for example um actually and they were Democrats because that's what the UAW did do those people still exist I mean obviously the lines have been
blurred big time in a good way because they've taken so much for granted I mean look at Trump had minorities you know working better wages than anybody else and and ever in the history you know what I mean and it's like and everyone's like I guys are racist not so you're like what are you
talking about you know what I mean and and you know I think people get complacent they always do you know at the top of anything in Democrats clearly I had to sound like you know broken record repeating talking points we hear all the time on the news but you know they take the black vote
for granted they take the union vote for granted you know they just you just think these are like you don't we don't have to say anything these are just you know we're pro and we're gonna like you know give you money it's you know the big pork thing and DC and and it's
when when you hear Kamala Harris say that if the government knows you have a gun they have the right to barge into your house and inspect it they can they can barge in they're going out in a body bag last time last time I checked the second amendment means something yeah and by the way
it brings it to the point of the first amendment like how important is that and you know what it is you can't protect the first amendment without the second so you don't think barging in your house and confiscating your weapons is common sense gun gun reform yeah probably not
the problem with the common sense laws is like I'm a common sense person like I can talk to some of my calm left wing friends and they like suggest these things they're sitting there I'm like okay that makes sense right you know about being responsible lock your gun upper keep it out of the reach of children like I get it absolutely problems if they implement implement that into law the way I see it these these dumb shit attorneys that drop all these bills they'll flip this wording so
freaking bad around that they'll take advantage of these laws and it will keep going like this and take and take and take if we had sensible people everything would be fine but you know you got people that scam on everything they scam on their insurance they scam on this it's the guy that you
know when you're in line to get off and he comes around and cuts right in it's these people you know there's tons of them everywhere and they screw everything up for everybody you know what I mean so you just can't have so many just decent common things you know in line trust me there's
ways to have fun lots of fun without being an idiot named three what name three um rock and roll playing in a band how when I was younger I did drugs and I wasn't an idiot I mean there's times when I got vocally like maybe I shouldn't have said that one right there have been times I've
seen the videos there'd be quite a few times absolutely I was like say drunk man's words are sober man's thoughts when you when you're on stage I think it was in your bar attacking Hillary Clinton did you ever think I could wind up like Kadoffi that's the most confusing thing I've ever what was that
you could I can wind up like Jeffrey I've seen like maybe there's certain people I shouldn't criticize because they can hurt me yeah I mean there's no way to live life no way to live life you know looking over your shoulders scared about what you said you know might offend somebody
and they might kill you I mean it reminds me like when my sister you know when I got money and she controls a lot of my business stuff was like you have to get ready you're diving board I'm like what she's like the insurance won't you know I'm like that's enough I had enough this shit all right kids want to jump on diving boards and other pools some of my character hadn't if they sue me and take everything I got fuck it I'm like I don't care I'm like I'm not gonna live life like that
do you still have the diving board well I have a new house it's way worse than a diving board it's a vanishing edge pool with with no protection it goes down a mountain wow that sounds like the world's most dangerous swimming pool or awesome so I do want to ask you I've thought this of you many
times but you've been in this like 30 years and most people who've been in your business the rock and roll business touring entertainers artists I mean they're if they're still alive they're in worse shape than you what do you mean well yeah so what's your secret
you know my son kept me very grounded being a single father my mom kept me in check making me be as good a father as I could be also helping me out but you know I you know her and his god parents my sister our cleaning lady my production managers mother who lived there had so many good people
around to help me raise raise my son you know it chokes me up but that that that right there that only allowed me to be an idiot from like Thursday to Sunday morning rest I had to you know parent teacher conferences had to drive to school and field trips you
know and and this that and the other and everything else and um and then finally you know years back you know I just figured it out that let's replace those bad habits with good habits it's still it's Friday night I've worked my ass off all week just came from aerosols I'm gonna have a beer
like just some not the weird one you know I mean I don't do this every night anymore five days a week I'm on a strict health regimen this that the other I took my bad habits and I replaced those with good habits and that's really what I did amazing do you know other people in your
business who've done that we're still around like guys you started with few of them yeah few of them yeah um a lot of them was well I think Scott's dad changed his life around I used to for him messed up for a while trust me and I hear you know creeds back doing great stuff um I know
so you know it is possible it's not a story you hear very often a lot of time it's like you know you know the band breaks up you know like screw you screw you we'll hate each other and back and then 10 years later like you got any money no do you like I don't either they're like we're
getting the band back together reunion tour we we're driving from Detroit to a Nekama Michigan last summer and a Nekama portage lake and it's like what three or four hour drive and we had played this game in the car we can only listen to music from Michigan you were on there must have been an awesome ride it was but that's my question okay and that I'm not even mentioning Motown like you can just go I mean you could drive from here to Fairbanks and just listen to Michigan music drive
from here to China put your car so why why has this state produced so much good music well I think it was you know the migration from the south you know and and all the everyone came to work and the industrial revolution in the auto industry some people stopped in Chicago that's where you got
like the blue scene that formed and then other people kept going because you could get this wage and you could work and get off at three o'clock and you could play at the bars and I was reading the sadder people stopped in Chicago whatever it was back then you know people man we can go work
up there and make money and be you know be treated pretty decently you know even though it's pretty horrible in those factories back then to a lot of these people coming from the south after this time you know dark period in our history and they came up here and you know you get off the
planet three o'clock or whatever like you go play the bars you know or vice versa you get off for a certain time and that and you had all this melting pot of people come from everywhere to come for this industrial revolution I think the combination of that you know from and having
you know jazz and blues here everything you know the oldest jazz club is in Detroit um a baker's keyboard lounge thank you yes baker's keyboard lounge and you know John John Lee Hooker writing those songs down in Hastings Dreadle off mama had a dream last night
and then it just goes on and out from there it's a person to soul music and Motown and you know rock and roll and house music and you know hip hop and it just you know it hasn't stopped you think you think the leadership of Michigan will get better fucking hope so
there he is this Gretchen Shippmer so that's not an endorsement do you know anyone who voted for yeah that was an extended family member what did did the extended family member explain why I don't know but oh man this is a tough one too be talk about family but
that's like most of these people are like divorced overweight uh pissed off at the world um you know angry at every man alive and I've my gut tells me those are the women to vote it for I think that's probably the deepest thing ever uttered on this stage
and the truest um my personal research on the question confirms what you just said uh so it would be good to have a happy governor with happy voters in a happy state someone shouting kid rock for governor would you run for governor of Michigan what's that that's actually why I came tonight was to announce my candidacy you know you the funny thing is you'd probably win and you'd probably be great yeah that was messed up when I was doing that little Senate bit by the way Trump asked me about that
for like three years after it was done and I came out I was like hey man I was just screwing around and I was winning like actually my brother saw Debbie Stabenow like backstage of one of my shows I know boo and uh and she's like and my brother's like what are you doing here she's like I just
wanted to thank your brother he raised me so much money with that little Senate stunt and I'm like oh shit I know I wouldn't plan it on that I'm backfiring a little bit do you think you're gonna fun doing it though no I don't think any I don't think anybody should have fun doing it I'm
sick of every politician on every side thinking they're a fucking celebrity you know what I mean when the celebrities should really be the people who fight and die for this country who keep their mouth shut and do their job go to work every day and then you got these politicians who are
like well I just got office and I wrote a book and you know I got a job at Fox News now and I'm on CNN and I'm over here and I think I'm a big deal want to selfie with me it's like you're supposed to be doing a service to your country and the reason we can't get any good people is because it's
like when people say about Trump boy he said grab him by the pussy and like this and it's like whatever we're not electing the deacon of the church all right you want someone who's gonna keep you safe gonna lower your taxes you know what I mean it's gonna protect you and your family values
and and there's nobody in here cast the first stone you know he has no sin you know what I mean we all got some dirt somewhere you know you run for office and they're gonna dig it up they're gonna drag you through the mud and punish your family and your friends who would want that job
we have some of the smartest people these smartest people in this country that I guarantee you would give two four six years eight years of their life to make this a better place to say like I've been very successful if I can sacrifice which I think Trump has done didn't take a paycheck when he's
in office he's a freaking billionaire he's got a hot wife he's got real estate all over the world and he's like no let me run for president somebody take a shot at me you know I mean try and kill me because I want to help this country out I mean if that's not conviction I don't know what is
you know that was pretty close I would say just drinking beer on Friday night with Tucker and some friends I know you've talked to him in the last month that didn't even if someone shot me in the face it would give me pause I must say
he didn't even seem to slow down not I think he said that the other night I got filled which I thought was great I actually told him I actually told him I said sir I go in that that's setting with several people you know that are smart funny I go you shine like a diamond you
know what I mean it's just not talking policy over and over again I go you were funny engaging you still had you you know your points I mean if you don't know what Trump's policies are right now you must live in a freaking cave you know what I mean we understand what he wants to do and we on this
of the first time I know I'm getting off track but I tell people like I was talking to some people in my band today it rehearsal some of them are Democrats you know they said some were gay this then yeah I can give you shit I like but it's fun to have discussions and the way I broke it down
to one of my band members is like you know just think of it like this this is one of the only times in our lifetime certainly and and I think it's only happened twice before I have to fact check me but where you have forget you don't even need these people Kamala Harris or Trump to say anything
they both have four years of a track record period you don't need to look any farther just check their homework okay Kamala Harris D minus Donald Trump A plus boom I'm gonna vote for the guy to got the A plus you said that you watch all kinds of media yeah who drives you craziest
drives me craziest man there are lots to choose from obviously yeah not really media but um I mean no one drives me crazy I just I just laugh it off you know like I don't let people get my skin like that I can in case you haven't noticed I can give a frog's fat ass like
nobody's getting under my skin like that how much time do you spend watching the view you know sometimes I'll watch the morning programs and then I get done my workouts coming here and when I come back down it'll be on you know because I didn't change which I like to watch
Varnie a Fox business I love Varnie I did too um but if you know I've any flippant before I went to the house to my other workout and like come out it'll be on I'll be like yeah pop a bag of popcorn be like I see what these bitches got to say today yeah they annoy me they they but at the same time
I'm just laughing at them you know what I mean I'm not you know like oh my gosh they ruined my day I'm like he's host see an end doesn't make you mad I mean it's more fodder than mad yeah I mean you don't make me mad it's like every time I go to the fridge and open something up and it's got
like a plastic label get that thing off all right then I'm just gonna like can I get this thing off it and I'm like God son of a bitch I'm like that pisses me off I'm like why because there's some fruit cakes running around that want to put weird stuff in your food I'm like we should just execute
these people like get them out of the jean pool like that's what pisses me off food so food packaging is your top issue would you say yep I'm in my 52 man I feel you why does every apple have to come with a little plastic sticker on I you get a piece of fruit you're like you wash you feel like
oh fuck somebody put a sticker on his thing yeah but that's never brought up in a single presidential debate and I'm wondering why well if you'd like to see you know how it really goes I should moderate it to me I mean can you imagine if we just talked like
everyday people and I know everyday people don't all use curse words but I mean my mom says the f word at this point like you know what I mean and that was a word if you said at my house growing up you were running out because if not you were touching your toes and getting the paddle
um you know if you if you could just sit there you're like that's horse shit like what are you talking about like this is clearly stated right here like you're gonna answer the question or not if you're not gonna answer it just say no well I feel you know the world needs a new vibe that's
not the question I guess what would you offer to moderate the next debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump absolutely could could we do it I wouldn't exactly call it moderating we might have to come up with a new word more be like referee Trump would do that in a second he does any of
that in a second this guy goes I've seen him in Detroit and black churches I've seen him in the south Bronx I've seen him you know in different neighborhood you know Hispanic neighborhoods here who meet with anybody I took some of my boys from Detroit to meet him last time he was here like
guys who are real prominent in the city like kind of grew up gangster hip hop now a community community leaders influencers and they're like they're like dog you might have had that one right you know like that's like you know um he would he's you know I find a similarity and I
said like that and like I will sit down and talk to anybody let's have a beer there's somebody I said the worst things about this that and the others somebody I've thrown on to the bus they've thrown me under the bus I'll be like let's have a beer you know an occasion it's happened here
and they're like telling you you always like you always end up with a handshake in a laugh you know isolation is what really breeds hate in my mind when you're isolated from from everybody like COVID that bread a lot of hatred and people you know you're just isolated
I'm you're like shit the person you live with you're like I didn't want to live with you 24 hours a day kind of nice going to work you know I mean to get out and just when you see other people you understand their views and there's some things where you're like look I just can't get down with it
you know what I mean do you want to cut your penis off like I'm gonna draw the line there all right like that's like you know you want to play in you know the whole sports thing is a man and bathrooms like nah now I'm gonna it's a hard no a hard no I mean that should be a reality show who will
cut their penis off first dancing with no penis so good I don't think we're allowed to live with though it's deadly serious I mean this is a personal journey I've never been on stage this long with a microphone honestly I love it we have another beer and without without being like
for the first 10 minutes I thought about I've never been on a stage this long with a microphone with this many people not being covered in sweat from head to toe like I'm like that nice isn't it's easier than what you do I honestly I'd rather have my band to be playing musical fans like
just because I'm better at it so I noticed you're drinking course light I'm drinking whatever you put here oh we did my dad told me there's two types of beer in this world cold there's there's there's there's well fuck as I'm drinking beer there's two types of beer in this world
course light and free you like both all right before you go tell us I mean what you do for pure entertainment I mean I've seen video of you shooting consumer products I love to have my friends and family for dinners really yeah that's pretty great I got at your house I got this
I'm gonna brag a little bit whatever you'll enjoy it I got this dining room that's elevated and my house overlooks the whole city national and I put this floor in and it spins like one of them hotels you know you just go to and I'm like I'm like what the hell am I gonna do with all this money
I'm like I got it the floor that spins like bam nailed it and so we call it the spinner dinner and and friends or family come over and it's only eight seats with a single tilt your world is anyone get sick it don't go that fast but you know it's only eight people so it's intimate you
spend time with people we have some cocktails the stuff before we have dinner and then shenanigans after whatever happens you know and that's honestly my favorite thing to do so you've been on stage for 30 years you're one of the most famous people in the country
bone it comes down to what you really want to do is have dinner with the people you love yeah spend time with the people I love hey man well that kind of says it all it says everything about you and it says everything about the the purest human desires and I hope that we can keep
doing that in this country hey man hey man kid rock ladies and gentlemen thank you Michigan we love you the big tech companies sensor our content I hate to tell you that it's still going on in 2024 but you know what they can't censor live events that's why we are hitting the road on a fall tour
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