The Projectionists

This episode of The Truth includes strong language. The truth. Can I get a Diet Coke and a... Ginger ale and a large popcorn, please. You got it. Thank you. So this movie, The Triangle, what's it about? You didn't watch a preview? No, I mean, previews give away everything these days, so I like to be surprised. It's about a love triangle? Or is it like this...

Couple and they get mesmerized by a third person. Okay, so it's a romance I Don't know the previous made it seem like it gets increasingly like abstract and absurd as it goes on. Okay Thank you. Thank you so much See, this is why previews are helpful. You watch it and then you know. Come on, you want to know what to expect? Well, for example, I have been able to mentally prepare myself for the fact that you and I are going to have to awkwardly sit through a sex scene together.

Oh, okay. Well, you know what? We can always just close our eyes till it's over. So, like, real sex? Sorry, I did not expect that. I thought you said you like to be surprised. Only about movies. I'm actually a pretty... An erotic person. I got same. Oh, what a match. This is going to be a lot of fun. I want to have a kid. Oh. Sorry. Sorry. That really just...

came out. Yeah, sure did. No, I know this is an awkward topic, but I just don't want it to come up on like the second or third date and then I... And I'm not saying right now. I'm just saying, you know, I'm 38 and you're, what, 40? Yeah, yeah, I sure am. Well, I'm having a really great time with you two, like a really great time. And I can certainly get why you would want to...

I mean, it's just really good to know. Okay. God, I can't believe I just brought that up on a first date. No, it's okay. It's okay. It's fine. Everything's fine. It's just kind of a complicated topic. I don't know if I'm ready. For a kid or for the talk? I mean, just... No, no, no. Forget I said anything. Yep, I... Sorry, don't answer. Can we just go back to before? Yeah, okay. Is that okay? Yeah, yeah. Oh, this is us. Oh, okay. We're not just entertained.

that means we didn't miss the previous but somehow reborn excuse me excuse me heroes feel like the best parts of ourselves and stories feel powerful because here Here we are. That's how great seems. They are. IND theaters. From the creators of Tiny Mrs. Sunlight. Mom, Dad, sit down. I have to tell you something. Comes a story about a huge surprise that shows up out of nowhere. I'm pregnant.

about what it means to be a parent and how to know if you're ready. This looks cute. It's okay, baby. We really can't get away from this topic, can we? Yeah, no, we can't. When you're watching the previews in a movie, it's almost impossible to not have an opinion. And if you're on a first date, those opinions can tell you a lot about who you're with, what makes them laugh, what makes them roll their eyes.

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You were meant to be her mother. She's the best thing in my life. Bumpy Ride, coming this fall to a theater near you. Well, that'll be cute. Yeah, like one of those indie cute kind of things. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Sweetheart, you've achieved so much. There's more to do. I don't believe silence is the absence of sound. It's the promise of what can be heard.

Starring Tune Time Academy Award winner Catherine Carlin. I just can't right now. This isn't the time. But kids is what we planned on. A genius gives all of herself to her music. You used to smile at babies. You used to laugh. Now I listen. Oh, great. Another movie about a woman with a career who goes insane. Yeah, alright, this is so fucked up.

But how much is too much for her to sacrifice? Yes, I'm controlling. I'm your teacher. Control is precision. We're trying. Oh, trying, trying, trying. Trying isn't working. I want to have a family. And if you don't anymore, I can't be with you. This is... I don't know. I'm sorry. Are you like... Are you okay? What? Why? Yeah. What do you mean? Oh, uh...

Nothing. Never mind. Catherine Carlin is transcendent in a film about the sound of loss. Some melodies are left unresolved. Beyond Measure. In theaters this fall. Rated R. Looks, um, interesting. I like musician movies. Oh really? Like what? Uh, just all of them. Oh. So, do you have any siblings or... I'll tell you after. Oh, sorry. Yeah, cool, cool. What happens to a man from humble beginnings? When he becomes Wall Street's golden boy. You can count on the market. Why? Always bounces back.

A deal maker who turns rule breaker. Press release goes out Friday morning, so you might want to get yourself in position before then. The money got bigger and the lies got louder. Ooh, this looks fine. Yeah, this one seems great. It was more money than he thought he'd ever need. Until... Tommy, I'm late. He landed himself a very long-term investment. That's how much daycare costs? On top of childcare? What's the daycare for? Okay, okay, it's okay. This really took a hard turn, didn't it?

What? Nothing. And he's about to form a high yield bond with zero maturity. A new car? Babe, we can't afford a new car with this thing. Diapers, formula, dental. So, I do have siblings. Oh, really? Yep. Yeah, I'm the oldest. I'm older than my sister. I've got two brothers. Nice. Cool. Oh, sure. Be quiet. Oh, I'm sorry. Daddy can't get promoted if you don't settle down. The Big Investment. Coming this fall to a theater near you.

Are all movies about babies? Oh my god, I know. I thought I was projecting. I'm definitely projecting. Yeah, because I'm like, what are the odds? Well, I mean... Kids come up. It's a big part of life. Yeah, right. Of course. I mean, I was just... No, I didn't mean... I'm sorry. I didn't mean it like... No, it's okay. I'm sorry. I'm just... I think I'm getting really in my head about everything. I am too. I think we're just... Hey, keep it down. There's nothing even on the fucking screen yet.

This fall, Ryan Noah and Sabrina Lapler star in a story about a family with a lot to share. Thank you for the baby shower. Jesus Christ. This is for real. Do you two have a name yet? You don't have to tell me unless you want to tell me. No, don't, don't, don't. Say goodbye to sleep, kid. You're in for a rude awakening. Emphasis on awake. Ah! From Paramore Pictures. You must be hungry. You're eating for two. I'm okay. Babe, you want anything? Okay, the actor looks a lot like me.

Uh, yeah, I'll take a Diet Coke. And that one kind of looks like me. In my experience, which it makes sense for you to go by, having a baby will ruin your marriage. Wow. Did not expect that. I thought you liked to be surprised. Why is she flirting with him at their baby shop? Comes a romantic comedy that asks you, what makes you think you can do this? Oh my god, I am bugging out right now. Let's just ignore it, okay?

Come under here. Under my coat. Your coat? Yeah. Okay. It's a coat tent. Good trick for horror movies. Well, it is better under here. Right? It's clearly all either of us can think about. Don't worry. We are safe and sound in here. There's no previews. Nobody's shushing us. Yeah, what was with that? I have no idea. It's not even a movie. It's a trailer. Oh, Jesus. So dealing.

Do you do this coat thing a lot? Is this like a move? No, no, no. My mom used to do this during scary parts of movies. Oh, that's sweet. Yeah. Sounds like a good mom. Yeah, she was. I mean, yeah, in a lot of ways, I mean, she was not a perfect parent, for sure. Well, you know, becoming a parent. Now we're talking about it again. Why can't we just get away from this subject? You know what? I'm done. I'm done with the end of the coping.

A lot to expect coming this fall to a theater near you. I think I'll skip that one. Same. Want some popcorn? No. Are you mad at me now? No, I just... Fuck me. When is the movie? When watching the previews at a movie, it's almost impossible not... to have an opinion. So this movie, The Triangle, what's it about? What? But that's you. Are you an actor? No. And on a first date, those opinions tell you a lot.

about who you're with. It gets increasingly like abstract and absurd as it goes on. Oh my god, I don't believe this. What makes them laugh? Roll their eyes. What they're looking forward to and what they're not. Okay, I'm getting light at it. Shut the fuck up. From the distorted lens of your mind's eye and intrusive thoughts you can't escape. I thought I was projecting. I'm definitely projecting. This is like a prank. There's a camera somewhere. Come as a story.

About what we want to see and what we don't. Well, I think I'll skip that one. Same. And stories feel powerful. Because here, they are. Oh my god, I'm gonna be sick. Wait, just...

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And now back to The Projectionists. What the fuck was that? You heard me. Who did that? You tell me. I'm not fucking around. Tell me. I don't want any trouble sir. Where is she? I don't know who you're talking about. Where'd she go? Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait a second. Wait, can you please just stop for one second? I'm sorry. Have a good night. Bye. Have a good night? Are you kidding?

You don't have anything at all. Do you know that I could have killed you? I was just, I was moving. Where are you even trying to go? I'm going home. To do what? Are you kidding? You don't have anything to say about what we just saw back there? Do I need to explain myself? What the fuck? You just chased me down to explain myself? I'm sorry. But that was insane. Oh my god. Okay, get out of my way. Get out of my way. I just do not understand.

I don't understand. You need to talk to me. I don't know what you can do. I'm not moving. You can honk all night. Honk, honk. I can honk too. Listen, I had a panic attack, okay? It hasn't happened in a long time, but it does happen. happen. It doesn't mean I'm insane. Panic attack? Do you see the layer of sweat I'm dripping in? My clothes just sticking to me? Like, that's a panic attack. Yeah, well look at what my clothes look like.

Wait, why do you look like shit? Because I just puked on myself. I puked? Yeah, you puked and I puked because I saw the same thing you did. I saw us on screen at the movie theater. Okay, so it wasn't just in your head. If it was, it was somehow in my head too. Okay, so I think it was somehow all real. What? How? Did someone give us LSD or something? It's not like two people can have the same trip.

But you did see it? You saw, like, those actors looked exactly like us, right? Yes, yes. And then there was that weird orchestra conductor one that I guess was... supposed to be you? Supposed to be me? I just... Well, the previews, they were all about us, right? Yeah, I mean, I thought the last two specifically were about us, but the conductor one? Well, you said that you wanted to have kids, and you're 38, and you're worried it's too late, and then there was the conductor.

was about a woman who was too old to have kids and and you know that was i it got really awkward and i'm sorry i just i thought that all the i thought all the previews are about us right Yeah, I don't know. I just, that's like wild to me. It feels like you were like, oh, this crazy Baron woman is on screen. That's kind of what you're saying. Sorry, no, I wasn't, I just thought I was trying to be sensitive. Like you said, you hate movies.

that portray women that way. Yeah, I hate movies that portray women that way. You were right. I'm so sorry. I don't know what that was in there. I'm very confused. I have no idea. Right, right. No, I'm sorry. I just really... specifically hated that one. Yeah, it looked really bad. Really bad. You're not looking too good? Yeah, I don't have the strongest stomach. Here, you should sit down. Come on, we can sit in my car. Okay, yeah. Thank you.

This night really nosedove. Or dived, yes? Nosedove. Yeah, this was... You had it, the person. Great, thank you, Hannah. Yeah. Yes, it did. You know, I want to have a kid too. I do. Seriously, I don't want you to feel like you have to have this conversation right now. I mean, I have had to think about it all night. I already puked on myself. I might as well just talk about it. Okay.

i don't even really know what the holdup is yeah yeah i don't i mean there's there's the ethics of it right and like you know the environment is what it is, and so having a kid just seems completely nuts right now. Totally. Yeah. No, yeah, I mean, those are all very good reasons to not have a kid. Yeah, but, uh... I don't know, for me, it's also this feeling like I'm not ready. Yeah. Yeah, you mentioned that before. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't know if, like, I...

Can I multitask like that? It's like, how do people find the time? Everything else in their life. Now you've got a kid. Yeah. I don't even know if that's a genuinely... self-aware instinct or if it's you know this is just fear yeah or yeah is it both it could be both right you know and it's i don't know it's just i always tell myself like if you could just do

These couple things, then you could do it. Then you're good. Sure. Like money and career stuff? I guess, yeah, partly. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I used to feel. For sure. Did it stop, like, mattering to you at some point? Oh, no. My company gave me, like, a giant raise and also the Medal of Honor. So, all good. Yeah, well, congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. No, I mean...

I think it stopped mattering. Or at the very least, the two just became less and less related, I think. Yeah. When I said time, I didn't... I mean, just time for me. What did you mean? Well, that the relationship goes to shit. You know, I just can't imagine, like... being so happy with someone and we build this whole little family bubble it's just around the two of us and it's so perfect and then we we introduce this huge third thing into it you know

Totally. And it's just, it's just the two of you, but that time that it's just the two of you that just ends forever at that point. I mean, you know it's on the list of the most stressful things in life, right? It is. I've seen it. It's on there. It's certified. My mom once said that every step in her relationship was a new way to make it harder to break up.

Wait, what? Moving in together, harder to break up. Meeting each other's parents, harder to break up. Getting married, way harder. And then having a kid, I mean, forget it. Oh, God, that's so upsetting. Yeah, well, she was a realist. I had a bump. What? What? On the screen, in the one preview about the baby shower. I had like a baby bump. Right, that, yeah, the one who looked like you in that floral dress. Yes.

It had her hands on it, the bump, holding it in this way that... Yeah. She looked good. She did. Anyway. Yeah, I guess the timing part is just the thing I gotta wrap my head around. Yeah. Yeah, it's like in that last preview. Time's kind of catching up to you. Yeah, it sure is. It's fucking terrifying. I have an idea. I've heard... I've heard that it's always less scary under a coat.

Yeah, it's a safe little bubble. Neil? Do you want to ride home? Yeah, if you don't mind. No, not at all. Thanks. Oh, great song. Yeah, it is. Did you just hear something in the backseat? I don't know. I can take a look. What the fuck? Oh my god, is that a baby? There's a baby in your car. Oh my god, what the fuck? Who put a baby in my car? There's another one. There are two babies. What is happening? This fall.

comes a magical thriller that will have you on the edge of your seat. We can leave them at the fire department. No, no, no. They're going to think we want to abandon them. Well, we do. We do want to abandon them. That puts a relationship to the test. God, they're so loud. Can you just settle them down? I, like, can't hear myself think. Oh, God, they both just pute. Ew! Google Maps to fire department. I kinda have my hands full. Backseat Drivers. Coming to a theater near you. The Projectionists.

was written by Davey Gardner and directed and sound designed by me, Jonathan Mitchell. It was performed by Julia Schroeder and John Sartori, with Bill Wolfing as the movie narrator. And as the movie actors, Nikki Thomas, India Cotis, Mary McDonnell, Louis Kornfeld, Amy Warren, Chris Caferro, Lauren Gamiel, and Max Brand, with Davey Gardner as the theater employee.

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