We spent a lot of time talking on this podcast about this bizarro world that we live in where the irrational seems to supersede the rational. And one of those big moments, and one of the most glaring examples of that, is throughout COVID, where we have discarded things like natural immunity,
where we have ignored vaccine injury, vaccine death. Where we have listened and continue to listen as a society to people like Dr Fauci, who has gotten everything wrong, and not only has he gotten everything wrong, but has invested interest in covering up the truth when it comes to where COVID originated because of the n i h S work and funding of gain a function at the Uhan
Institute of Virology. So we're very fortunate to have leaders in this country, to have doctor scientists who have spoken out, who have been fearless in speaking out. We've had a lot of those individuals on this podcast, people like Dr Atlas, people like Dr j Battaria, people like Dr Martin colder If,
people like Dr Pierre Corey. The list goes on. Of the people we've had on the Dr Harvey Rish, the list goes on, and the people we've had on this podcast who have been brave and bold Doctor Joseph Latipo recently, and I'm going to add Dr Peter McCullough to that list as well. He is one of the most published cardiologists in America with over one thousand publications and six hundred citations and the National Library of Medicine. He's an internist,
a cardiologist, and epidemiologist as well. Uh and he was also one of the pioneers in leading the country at the outset of the pandemic with dozens of peer reviewed publications on the infection, also talking about protocols in ways that we could respond to COVID early on. This doesn't always make you a popular person. He was banned from
Twitter for a period of time. Again, we've had these conversations on here about how there's not been a consensus about COVID, that the science has not been settled, but they've tried to manufacture one. They've tried to force this consensus through censorship, through attacking people who speak out, revoking medical licenses from people who speak out. So we're going to get into all of this with Dr Peter mccaull to talk about what exactly is m R and A.
What is it due to the heart? As a cardiologist? What is he saying? What are the dangerous of the vaccine? What do you need to know? And how do we arrive at this place of insanity, particularly when we have had so many people who are esteemed, such as Dr Peter mccaulla, who have warned us, who have told us the truth, who have tried to bring rational conversations to the country in an age of irrational behavior and irrational
thought process. And also, why is our government so dead set on getting vaccines in the arms of so many Americans? What's the why behind that? So much to talk to you with Dr Peter mccaull who has been fearless and all of this. I hope you enjoyed this conversation. So Dr Peter McCullough, thanks so much for joining the show. Sir, I really appreciate your voice throughout COVID. I know it's not been easy, but we have needed people like you, so I appreciate everything you've done to to speak up
and tell people the truth. So thank you. Thanks for having me on the show. You know, Dr you're one of the most published cardiologists in America, with over a thousand publications and six centered citations in the natural the National Library of Medicine. Why are so many people ignoring concerns regarding the MR and A vaccines? The vaccine program has been unprecedented in terms of flows of money. The COVID nineteen Community Cores is a program from the White
House and the Department of Health and Human Services. In one on their website, over thirteen billion dollars flowed two doctor organizations, to churches, to media and Hollywood, to Black and Hispanic groups, to the National Football League, and that money flowed with talking points, and the talking points were
to support these vaccines. Visor Maderna hired Webber Shandwick, one of the most prominent PR marketing firms in the United States, and they initiated a plan called Planned v X, which was to get their marketing people inside Corporate America to push these vaccines, to push vaccine mandates. Webber Shamwick had an embedded unit in the CDC to actually promote Visor and Maderna to the CDC, and the CDC paid Webber Shandwick. The corruption is wide open right now. Money is flowing
and it's all for the promotion of these vaccines. That's how this has gotten off the rails. So hearing that and just looking at health more broadly, how much of what we are told is actually true? You know, in terms of the vaccines, everyone knows that every medicinal product has risks and benefits. Every product does. There's no perfect medicine. There's no perfect vaccine. So when we see an advertisement for a medicine on TV, let's take Humora, that's actually
the leading sales drug in the United States. Humor is used for psoriasis and a whole variety of autoimmune conditions. There's always the benefits given in the TV commercial, and then there's the risks like contracting tuberculosis, having other problems. There's always disclaimers. So in America sees advertisements on TV by the CDC by Visor Maderna that's say, the COVID
nineteens are safe and effective and just take one. The Americans know that's egal advertising that that cannot occur in our country because the vaccines must be presented in terms of their theoretical benefits and the risks that we're seeing, and when it's safe and effective. As a talking government talking point, that violates the truth in Advertising Act, the US Drug and Cosmetic Act, and the Landman Act, even up to the President United States. The President United States
has violated drug promotion law well. And of course we know that it's been a forced consensus, as you sort of laid out before, with the money flowing in the direction of being pro you know, COVID vaccines. We also know that people have been silenced. You've been silenced, shut down, shut out of Twitter for a period of time. People have lost their medical licenses as well for speaking up and speaking out. So you know, it's not even a
real consensus, it's it's a manufactured consensus, forced consensus. There hasn't been any dialogue. You know. I've testified in the US Senate multiple times, most recently on December seven, and
I co moderated the session we have. We read the invitation list of who was invited to come to this session in this Kenny Coccus room we're in the Russell Building, and then included Anthony Fauci and Michelle Lewinsky and our Surgeon General Murphy, our White House Corona Corona Task Force Coordinator Jah They were all invited FDA Chairman Caleb they were invited in a public servants, they have a duty to attend and to learn from experts who are caring
for COVID nineteen patients, publishing their findings, who are leading advancements in the field. And this has been multiple U S. Senate sessions, and they refused to attend. So there is no dialogue because those who are advancing the vaccine agenda don't wish to engage in dialogue. Well, I remember when Joe Biden took the stage at the CNN town hall, I believe those in July of I want to say,
I don't remember. I think it was one I believe saying that the vaccines would prevent you from getting COVID when we had just all witnessed a bunch of the Texas Democrats had come down to Washington, d C. They were all allegedly vaccinated and it ended up being a super spreader event. And then there was also my understanding a July four study that the CDC had been looking at out of Provincetown, Massachusetts, where of a cluster we're
all vaccinated individuals. So at this point when he took the stage, at the point in September when he announced vaccine mandates, they knew that vaccinated people were getting and spreading COVID, yet they did it anyways, It's true. What happened is there were false claims for the vaccine program. The first false claim was that the vaccines prevent one from actually getting COVID, and the CDC was collecting data on those fully vaccinated who are being hospitalized and dying
of COVID. Thank and that's through the spring. By May one, the CDC was overwhelmed with cases and they announced we will no longer track this. They gave up. So the first claim that the vaccines prevent COVID nineteen, that claim went down. The second claim was that it prevented transmission. So the president said this. All the late night tacosts shows said that Rachel Maddow had a whole monologue on this. Embarrassingly they said this, Uh so did uh every every
government officials said this. And when all these transmission events occurred among fully vaccinated to fully vaccinated, it was clear. They were published studies one by Chow Charion Rhymaristhma of Coursi. They all showed that the vaccinator were loaded with virus up in their nose when they presented for testing and they easily passed it to other vaccinated unvaccinated people. So Rachelle Lewinsky came out in the summer and said, hold
on here, the vaccines don't prevent transmission. Okay, So that claim went down. There was only one final claim was that the vaccines reduced the risk of hospitalization and death. Well, the CDC was already overwhelmed with these failure cases called breakthrough cases. Uh, and we've never had a prospective, animized, double blind for simple controlled trial showing that the vaccines reduce hospitalization and death as a primary secondary endpoint. So
so there's no evidence for these claims. And if one looks at the consent form that you signed a take a vaccine, there's only one benefit listed in the consent form then that is the vaccines have been past tense shown to reduce the risk of COVID period period. That's past tense. That means with the very early original trials with the ancestral hand stream, the vaccines did reduce some
cases of COVID. That's all gone away now since that the virus is mutated and all the data has come out, So there are no supportable claims of benefit now for the COVID nineteen vaccines none. So where did these claims originated from? Was it the vaccine many facturers? Was it the White House or kind of you know who sort of started some of these initial claims. The claims are all from the Emergency Use Authorization mechanism, which is a
military mechanism. So when the vaccines were rolled out, it was alex As r h HS and the Department of Defense that rolls out the vaccines. Weiser and Maderna, Johnson Johnson Astrosenica outside the States, no evacs um. They're essentially defense their shields for defense contractors. So it's important for people to understand. So, for instance, Maderna doesn't make its
own vaccine. It's made by a company called Biodefense, and they are a defense contractor for their research division of the military called ARPA, and they have a big plant up in Mississauga. For Johnson Johnson Astrosena coach I had no viral vaccines. They're made by Emergent BioSolutions outside of m Baltimore, Maryland. So under the Emergency Use authorized contracts. The disturbing thing is there are no affections for safety, quality or purity of the vaccines as they get put
into the vials. None so fires Maderna Johnson Johnson, Astrozonk. They don't even know what's in the vials. They're made by defense contractors. All of this is in the open. One can just make a few clicks. Everything I'm saying is is easily identifiable on the Internet. The next reason why the variation and lot to lots is thought to be explaining why some people are injured and lose their
life with the vaccines and others are perfectly fine. It probably has to do with the quantity of genetic material messenger RNA that's in each trial. And for those at home, what is mr and A and what does it due to the body? Mr and A is a form of genetic material is loaded on lipid nanoparticles. It's injected into the arm. It's circulating in the body. Within an hour, it distributes to the brain, the heart, of the adrenal glands of reproductive organs. It gets sent all over the body.
Then the genetic code is taken up into cells in those organs, and then the cells begin to produce the spike protein. The spike protein is the spine on the surface of the virus. It's the protein that's loaded with all the lethal effects of the virus. It damages every cell it touches, probably destroys it. It causes blood clotting, causes heart damage, neurologic damage, causes autoimmunity. The spike protein is probably the most dangerous protein we've ever seen in
human medicine. I think it's far more dangerous than staff of coco toxin or tetanous toxin. So to have the genetic code for this lethal protein and then injected in individuals and have production of this potentially fatal protein for an uncontrolled duration of time and an uncontrolled quantity is
the most reckless medical idea ever conceived. And I published this in an op ed in The Hill in August before the vaccines welled out, and I told lawmakers in Washington that this the greatest gamble of of all time. In fact, it has been so many people have died within a few hours of taking this. They literally take the shot and they die. To CDC as of December nine admits to fifteen thousand, seven thirty two Americans that have died, many just shortly after taking the shot. And
this is greatly underreported. In an FDA testimony over the last two years, multiple experts, multiple epidemiologists. The underreporting factor for that number is probably about thirty, meaning it's it's thirty times fifteen thou So the number of Americans who have lost their lives, by a reasonable estimate is four hundred and fifty thousand people have died attributed to the vaccine.
Quick commercial break back with Dr. Peter mccaulla, Why do you think they lead with m R and A vaccines as opposed to you know, traditional vaccines like the Johnson and Johnson. Why MARNA because they had it already planned. So DARPA, the the research unit of the military, announced a program called the ADEPT P three program in and P three stands for a Pandemic Protection Preparedness Program and
it's on their website. You can look it up. DARPA ADEPT P three and in they said they will use Messenger r and A technology to end pandemics in sixty days. So DARPA, the research Unit of the military, and then BARTA, the research unit of the nih was already working with Messenger RNA and they had a DARPA contractors and consultants that were guiding them that this could be a new genetic tool to be used in the military. Two, so
the military would be strengthened against biological threats. This is all in the new era of biological weaponry, where one adverse serry would have a biological weapon and on defense one would have to come up with a solution with it. So our military has been in this biological threat development arena for quite some time, and they have programs for smallpox, monkey pots, for um anthrax, for stars COVID two since
so this was ready to go. It wasn't started when President Trump said Operation Warms, people are going to come up with vaccines, and then three days later Maderna says, we have a vaccine. That's not what happened. Maderna got its first flow of money from the U. S. Government to start working on this, but they hadn't previously had one on the market like this. Correct in terms of
this wide scale mass produced in everyone's arms. They've been trying, but no, they had tried development wise, there's never been a commercialized product um for emergency use authorization. By the way, you ay, that's always military. So this has never been a mechanism to use on the public the anthex vaccines, for instance, were used in the military. Same thing with smallpox, but it's not a it's not a US commercial mechanism. So this is the first time that a military program
was directed towards the general public and the companies. In a sense, our marketing shields that money flows to fires Maderna ferences, and then it flows right to these back to these defense contractors who make the vaccine. I think a lot of Americans don't understand the military nature of this, and the military nature of this explains a lot because that's the reason why the government has taken this stance. That listen, we don't have to disclose any safety concerns.
We don't give any exemptions to everybody. Everybody has to take it. You know, those are kind of military stances to take, and they're not clinical months that we take in practice. The doctor embraces the idea that everybody can take the same product. Another interesting observation is that the US government has never indicated which vaccine is better. You know, there's no asing majourn at Johnson Johnson Novavax. There must be a winner, there must be a loser. Governments and
employers they don't seem to care. They just say, take a vaccine, take any vaccine, and none of that makes sense. Well, I've refused to get it. You know, I'm thirty seven, I'm I'm not young, but i'm young ish. You know, I'm healthy. I don't. So I've not gotten it. I've I've made it very public. I'm not getting it. Everywhe a not bed in a column outlining uh, you know, back in November of it was not well received. As
you can imagine, people don't like it. If if you speak up against it, is there a difference between the vaccines that were approved for emergency use authorization and then the ones that were approved the full le FDA approval? Because you were mentioning that, you know, we don't even necessarily each batch could theoretically be different. So then how do you you know, how does that approval process work? What should people know about that? Did they do the
full testing that needs to be done? Considering this was
all done in such a short manner. You know, I have been on I'm a frequent contrigar on Fox News America sees me, you know, virtually every week or every month on national TV, and I've said very clearly, very early in the pandemic that no one under age fifty should consider taking this vaccine because there's no assurances on short or long term safety, and people under age fifty by and large, COVID nineteen is like having a common cold, so the risks are not uh, you know, outweigh by
theoretical benefits. So I've been very clear with America on that and um as a doctor who treats COVID nineteen, I've developed treatment protocols and one of the most published people in COVID nineteen in the world. I have medical authority to make that determination for the country and I have and many people like you listened. So no, no
one under age fifty should be taking this vaccine. Now, people over age fifty early on with medical problems considered it and they'd have to weigh out the risks and benefits. But now we've had so many analyzes pouring in that they can't be considered safe for anyone, and so there are calls to pull these off the market. They've been strict warnings in the World Council for Health now for two years now. June eleven two they simply said pull them off the market. We concluded in the US Senate
on December seven, pull him off the market. Andrew bridget In, a Member of Parliament in UK public statement, pull him off the market. Same thing. Malcolm Roberts in Australia now calls across India, so I believe you made the right choice by not taking a vaccine. I didn't take it either. I'm sixty, I'm fit and strong, I've already had COVID. I would never consider taking a genetic injection in my body. Never.
None of these vaccines are fully FDA approved. In August, both Fiser Maderna got biological Licensing agreement letters that said you could get full FDA approval if you did the right cardiac studies and had the right language in the couch insert about dangerous and pregnancy into the fetus. And the companies never did the studies, so they have not garnered full FDA approval. And you know that because they're
still offered free by the government. When they get fully FDA approved that they will be paid for by insurance or people have to pay for a lot of pocket, they'll have a full package insert, so people know that they're not FDA approved. Right now, there's still government emergency use authorized, not ready for prime time vaccines. That was one of my concerns to is, you know, does it impact fertility with the m R and A And you know that I don't have kids yet I want them.
I'm already thirty seven, so I'm already testing the water. So it's like, I don't really need to add anything additionally that's gonna, you know, make that, you know, more difficult. Do we know do we have an idea about what it might do to fertility and to having children in the future, or you're pregnant and you go out and
get the vaccine. What we know is that the Bow distribution study done by Fiser for japan Japanese officials showed the vaccines go to the mammalian ovaries, which is very disturbing. So we've never had a vaccine that actually hits the ovaries. And the ovaries have a set number of eggs. As the genetic payload is downloaded into the female of variant cells and the spike proteins expressed, I can tell you almost invariably a woman who is going to lose eggs
by taking each vaccine shot. Now and men, there's two good studies. One from Israel published in Andreology and the other one published a Jama by the Chinese. Both studies show that the vaccines and men drop sperm count and drops sperm motility. Those are the two major measures. So a man who's lower in the fertile range will be rendered infertile by COVID nineteen vaccination for six months, and then the man will rebound. The woman won't rebound because
the number of eggs are set. So based on these observations I can tell you is that doctor almost certainly fertility is reduced in couples who have taken the vaccine, and with each successive shot there's probably even deeper levels of infertility. Now there are data emerging across Europe bets since the vaccines have been rolled out and forced on the population, fertility is dropping across Europe like a rock.
And this has been published out. It's on multiple subjects, it's online and the Courageous Discourse subjects you can see the source of the data. But it's clear vaccines to reduce human fertility. What's really crazy is uh and pretty wild if you look over the course throughout COVID in this pandemic, is we've really ignored the rational for the irrational. Like to your point, you're talking about how early on in COVID you're recommending treatments. Treatments were ignored. You know,
warnings about the vaccine that's been ignored. You know, questions raised about masks not doing anything that was ignored. We ignore natural immunity, which is pretty much been something that we have understood and abided by for forever. So why why do you think in this era we have ignored the rational for the irrational. Every irrational move taken by the government authorities, and this was worldwide, was for one purpose, and that was to get a needle in every arm.
If you map every single one of those statements you've just made, they all map two. Mass vaccination over and over again in the world. Unfortunately, there's been a vaccine only strategy from the very beginning. Our US government hasn't said boo about early treatment. Early treatment developed rapidly. I published one of the very first treatment protocols by you know, by October of twenty October, we had a position association, the Association of American Position Surgeons, had a full home
treatment guide. We had telemedicine networks prescribing medications for our patients, individual doctors, clinics. We basically had provided an answer for America, and we demonstrated by December multiple studies world wide that we had clear and convincing the evidence that we were on the right track. It means a p value less than point oh one that early treatment dramatically reduced the
risk of hospitalization and depth. Later on, they were surveysed on one by Verdkirk and colleagues showing the only people in United States hospitalized and died of COVID nineteen where those who were denied early treatment. So it was always about early treatment for high risk individuals. Low risk individuals really don't need any prescription treatment, and that's what this whole pandemic was about. It was about treating patients. Our
government impeded treatment time after time. They impeded and then blocked the use of hydroxy corquin, impeded, then blocked and use of ib mactin, impeded nasal sprays, general virusoidal and nasal space delupe pavadon id, hydrogen peroxide. Every single manufacture of a nasal spray got tangled up by the FDA and FTC and had block development efforts lawsuits. Our government blocked monoclonal ampis. He kept taking off the market when they were safe and effective and useful. All the way through.
Our government never featured proven medicines in randomized trials like Budescinite, Culture Scene and others. It just kept going and going. The only thing our government did the entire time was promote fear suffering, hospitalization and death and then massively financially promote the vaccines and needle in every arm. That's what happened.
And then also redefined things as well. I mean, the CDC redefined the definition of vaccine because we know that these do not provide immunity in the traditional sense, and you know MMR or polio they confer immunity, these do not. So also just redefining things that we have known to be true as well. Every rule was changed now for
these vaccines. Every rule. Um. You know, there's an ethical code called the Nuremberg Code, which states we tried to learn from Nazi German and research that we would never provide a pressure of coercion or threat of reprisal for someone to take something new and experimental. It's purely up to their own judgment within a few months. Our government's just trampled over the Nuremberg Code and told government employees, contractors, and militaries they had to take this. We trampled over
human rights like we've never seen before. And this happened over just a few months. And so everything was oriented towards the vaccines. And there's not a single place in our government right now where the authorities won't drop these vaccines despite pockets of great concern. You know, letters have gone from the Senate and the Congress telling Lloyd Austin
the military dropped the vaccines. The Biden mandates went all the way up to the Supreme Court and four out of the five mandates were dropped partly, and based on my expert testimony for that case that went all the way up to the Supreme Court, I can tell you that there is an intense desire to push these vaccines at all costs. The most recent by valent massines were pre purchased by the US government. They failed in animal
studies to stop COVID. There was a false surrogate rise in the antibodies, and the bivalent vaccines were approved with no human testing. And then our government went out and told people to take it. This is unprecedented to to ask the United States citizens to take a product that's never been tested in a single human being, unprecedented. Why are they pushing this so hard? We'd have to ask someone in a position of govern an authority why. We'd like to think that the presidents would know and be
in level with us. We've gone through two presidents, Trump and Biden. Neither one have been honest with America on this. We've had uh Dr Anthony Fauci, he hasn't leveled why, White House Coordinator Shaw, CDC Director of Willinsky. We've had people from the FDA resign over this, People leave the c d C. No one will tell us why why these vaccines won't be dry. Aren't being dropped because they
obviously don't work and they're not safe. We haven't covered safety yet, but the safety data are just are atrocious Americans. Every American knows is now that they take their life in their hands in their hands with each shot. If you can get into the safety data a little bit more in terms of, you know, some of the adverse reactions. I know we have theirs, but I've heard from a lot of people that you know, we don't even that's not even that's scratching the surface. Uh, you know, you
talked about a little bit earlier. But let's get into a little bit more the safety concerns. What we know, what we still don't know the government sources of data that the CDC cre rates. One is BEARS Vaccine University reporting system that's open to all of us. When people take a vaccine, they're totally consult BEARS so they can be informed on safety. And again, the CDC is confirming fifteen thousand, seven thirty two Americans have died. And the
reporting to THEIRS is by doctors like me. I make various reports every week in my practice, doctors, paramedics, corners, nurses. It's really a medical reporting system that's an astonishing number. Typically five more than fifty deaths is pulled off the market with a swine flu vaccine desks pulled off the market. But to let this go on to fifteen thousand, seven thirty two confirmed deaths in the CDC confirms every single
death certificate they make, phone calls, they confirm them. That's underreported. We believe by thirty that means four hundred and fifty thousand Americans of titled vaccine. I mean, that's a war that's worse than any war we've ever been in. It's a self inflicted death. There's an analysis by McLachlan and colleagues early on in the pandemic from bears. It included a six percent of time. There's no other explanation outside the vaccine that the deaths are occurring in the elderly.
And that's the reason why they're so hard to figure out, because people are at the end of their lives. But the death rates are astonishing in the elderly. We know all cost mortality is skyrocketing in every single data system, the Association of Actuaries or reporting this in life insurance data. It's coming out in every single data system that death is markedly increasing. It's not COVID, it's related to the vaccine. And then we have um just an array of other
corroborating sources. So, for instance, Visor in the court ordered release of their dossier on their vaccine, Visor knew about one thousand two three does within ninety days of release of their vaccine. So Fiser in the FDA should have pulled it off the market probably before February one. The FDA did not want to release that dossier to America for fifty five years. The lawyer for the FDA fought
the release of the viser dossier. So our government is involved right now in the pre prema faeschi uh mass fatality cover up of a drug, which is the Fiser vaccine. Madournal looks no better than Johnson Johnson Novavac is also very concerning. So that's just death alone. Multiple data sources confirmed the vaccines are resulting in large numbers of deaths. How do people die well? Now, we have over two hundred papers in their perio viewed literature that the vaccines
cause heart damage milcarditis. All of them do, by the way, and the FDA admit to this pretty early on in June of But we knew this long before this. Ralph Barrack and nursing or Carolina Chapel Hill had shown beta coronavirus is damaged the heartback, so we knew it was possible that the spike protein would damage to the heart. That's the reason why there was such a concern to
screen for minocarditis during the first wave of COVID. What turns out, the respiratory illness causes relatively few cases of micardiis, but the vaccine causes large numbers. Two prospective chord studies, one by Mansugan and the other one by Passic now show when we measure everything at baseline, take the vaccine and measure everything again, the rate of heart damage is about two point five percent. And all for a virus that isn't that deadly on its face, that it really
isn't much deadlier than the flu. So all this vaccine injury, this forceful nature, this you know, eroding of the rules of the norms of you know, everything rational and everything that has made sense, all for something that isn't really that deadly. The Great Barrington Declaration proposed in October of by j Barachara, who's in my group at Fox News. He's from Stanford Barton Caldorf, also in my media group at Fox, from Harvard and NCNICA group to from Oxford,
and a million doctors signed to including myself. It said, listen, only protect the seniors. But this is like the common cold for most young people like you and me, and for the seniors it can be like like the flu or and it can be fatal in people who are very frail. But we would only protect the seniors, no lockdowns, no masks. If there was going to be a safe, an effective vaccine, it would only be for the seniors, maybe two point seven million people. I'm not against vaccines,
but they should always be targeted. We should never blanket back to the entire population. With the knowledge genetic vaccine and and and the fact that our government pushed vaccines into children down to age six months, people should be looking at that and saying, listen, that's wrong. We would
never do that in a rational civil society. Vaccinating pregnant women, people should look at that, understand that violates every bit of meudiculture spons We never introduce new, dangerous injections into pregnant women. Never. The American College of Sectors in Gynecology took money, a ton of it from the federal government in this community Core program. It was a government bribe to put the push the vaccines on populations who you know, good judgment would tell us to d do this quick
breaks stay with us. I'm for vaccines that actually confirm unity, that are studied that I need, you know, but this is none of those, which is why you know I didn't get it. I wanted to ask you real quick. You know. Another thing that is odd to me is, you know, if you look at where this virus came from, most common sense, just deductive reasoning, would lead one to believe that it was a mistake at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, where the original break took place,
where they're studying coronaviruses. Yet we see people like Dr Fauci still trying to hold onto the theory that it occurred in nature, which sort of just defies common sense. Why is he still pushing that when you don't have to be a you know, a rocket scientist to see that all signs point took coming from the lab. It seems very thin veiled cover up the U. S National Institute's Health and then you military dark path through these agencies.
They devised stars Kobe too. It was engineered. It's well documented in all the periviewed publications to publications that anybody listening to this can pull. First authors by Mena Cherry, Senior authors Ralph Berrick, This University in North Carolina, Chapola, Hell, Harvard, and a Swiss institute. The US government dollars they they did their research, They published their papers in Nature Proceedings Nature Communications and the Proceedings of the National Academy Sciences,
two of the best journals. These are widely read papers. The title of the papers say the emergence of Stars Kobe two Indo human populations and it states that this is a US funded project. It was conceived by US researchers. The work was contracted out to the Bio Security Annex uh in the Wu Hand Institute of Virology. They thank the Chinese for letting the US use their facilities. The first paper has no Chinese authors. The second paper has
three Chinese authors. But it's clear that papers are clear this is a US project that intentionally made despite protein more infectious and more lethal. They kept tweaking it and tweaking it until they can invade a humanized respiratory epith attractive animals and kill the animals. It was intentional and at the same time they were trying to come up with a vaccine monoclonal antibodies as an answer. Remember in the military biological weapons research, they work on developing a
threat and they work on developing an answer. But it's clear this is all fully disclosed to the public that this is a US project that was done in the Buhan instead of virology. What Vaucin and the others are trying to bank on is that no one would just read the papers published in the National Index, in the National Library Medicine published and good journals, and that they can fool the public by saying that, oh, it's just a rose in the fish market. It's clear the virus
was physically in the lab. There must have been a breach of lab security. Somehow the virus got out, somebody went to the fish market, and then it went we went from there. But these are these types of implausible, ridiculous things that are government agencies can say that said, can you imagine if they did that? This? Can you imagine that this happened? And the first thing that came out and said, listen, we've got to tell you the U. S Government was working on this. We were using to
lab the Mouhan, China, and this accidentally got up. We're going to do everything in our power to try to limit this. But you know that the fault here is are this was the US government project, and here are all the papers that show it was. And we've been working on vaccines as a solution to this since and we have messenger RNA vaccines that we're going to make advance. If President Trump came out and just told that to America, I think everybody would have a much different attitude right now.
But we were lied to, We were like to buy government agency officials up and down with these thin, veiled, implausible, almost ridiculous explanations for what happened. I don't trust any of republic both officials anymore. I even had my doctor tried to one. They've tried to get me to get the vaccine, and I've basically told them to go fla I. And then she was also the doctor recently try to get me to take the flu shot, and I was like,
I don't need that either. So I've just I'm sort of, you know, unless we're tried and true, like polio and MMR and things of that nature, I'm just going to opt opt out of a lot of these recommendations because I don't trust these people anymore. Um, you know, I wanted to ask you, go ahead, let's pick up on the flu shot. You know, a flu shot is now advanced down to children age one. Age one children don't get serious and flu ones at age one, you can see something's gone out of you know, out of the
norm with the advancement of vaccine schedule. But I was born there were just three shots, five different ancrogens, but three shots. And I'm like you, I took them all,
and I don't have any problem with vaccines. But you know, a child today faces sixteen different anigens and seventy two different shots, and in the first day of life, that baby is being given mult bull vaccines and things that are that are absolutely not needed, like hepatitis B. I mean, I took hepatitis B before I started working with blood and body fluids in the hospital. That's the healthcare workers need. Hepptites be vaccine, not not one day old babies unless
they're born to a drug abuse of a mother. I mean, somehow the vaccine schedule got way out of whack, and the vaccines are disappointingly ineffective. So, for instance, the flu shot last year paper published by Chung and colleagues mmw R sixteen percent vaccine efficacy that was statistically insignificant from zero, meaning last year's flu shot was a complete waste for everybody.
The new Maccacal thirteen valent new Macacal vaccine published in Gamma's vaccine efficacy against hospitalization and death was nine statistically insignificant from zero. So these vaccines that have been advanced out there are very very effective. And I'm like you, I'm done with vaccines. I have sales and I'm not taking skipping the flu shot. It's it's it's not worth it. Even if the rarest side effect happens, You've gotten a
side effect and you've had no theoretical profit. Now I'm approaching it from the standpoint of you're just trying to make money off of me, even if it negatively impacts my health. So you know, unless I truly need something, I'm just going to opt out and then also do what we really should be have been focusing on this
entire time, is actual health. You know, eat healthy, work out, you know, be outside, get your vitamin D, like, live a healthy lifestyle, which would create a lot more you know, positive impact than you know, giving people a vaccine that could be potentially injuring them for a virus that isn't a threat to their life. Like, get outside, lose weight,
be healthy. That's a very good summer. You know. I was doing research with stars Kobe too, I'm an internist and cardiologist in practice in Dallas, but I was one of the first investigation on drug applications. I'm widely known to the FDA into government officials, and you know, the White House had called me early in the pandemic for help, and so um, I knew I was taking risk because I was working in this area. So I intentionally lost weight and ran and got fit and strong. I knew
I was going to get tagged a chair enough. I got COVID and I got one of the early severe strains I did get in an FDA approved early treatment protocol did involve my lungs. But you know, I made a video showing, you know, I could jog. After about eight days, I was really short of breath, but I could do that, got outside, and then we learned over time boy losing weight exercise so important, emphasized vitamin D, virus,
cydal masal washes. That was a huge breakthrough. Everybody coming down with the cold nowadays should have delut pavadon i dine or dilut hydrogen peroxided, squired it up the nose, sniff it back and spit it out. That is now survival number one I carried with me when I traveled. Anytime you get viral works for flu, works for COVID, works for restaurants and social virus. It is the way
to go. We should never let a coal old fester up in our nose and get tons of congestion for days and days and days without doing something about it. That is a giant mistake. We should never sit and let a sore throat develop for two or three days, and then with the nasal condition, we should be gargling every every four to six hours, scope or listering and kill the virus in the back of the throat by reducing that viral burden. We make illnesses mild by being
fit and strong. Even if we get severe cases like I had some pulmonary involvement, I was nowhere near being hospitalized. I was out jogging by by day, so it's certainly possible enough. I was obese, had diabetes, was weak and frail. I could have been on the mechanical ventilator in the hospital. It's so clear being fit and strong makes a giant difference. I've managed people in their nineties through this illness with the combination of early treatment protocols and the fitness and
wellness concepts that you've put forward well. And also now we're finding out that long COVID is not because you know, then there was the push about the vaccines is to prevent long COVID, and then we're finding out that, you know, one covid is not what they're making it to be well long COVID about people with serious COVID hospitalized end up with some residual symptoms, and then the lesser percent about patients, but the vaccines make people feel sicker than
long covid. The CBC V safe data. Again, the CEC was refusing to release this to America. Finally, under court order, it was released to the and GEO i CAN and then Aaron Syrie representing that group came on Fox News on primetime and gave the results. This was, I think the vaccines incapacitate people. They can't go to work the next day, the after and seven to eight percent of them have to go to the e r and become hospitalized.
That's acute. That's way worse than long COVID. So we would never take a vaccine and end up in the e r B hospitalized because we're trying to prevent long COVID. These are ridiculous suggestions, that ridiculous claims. So the vaccines have a cute tuck cicity. I've already covered myocarditis. Now the FDA, two years too late, admits the vaccines caused blood clots. And I've never seen so many blood clots in my practice ever. And the blood clots occur, they're
large ones. They shoot to the lungs that can be fatal. They occur on the venus side, the arterial side. We've seen public figure after public figure go down with blood clots. Al Boker, the weatherman on TV or in current Street ESPN announced Dion Sanders, former football player, of blood clots in this artail system, shooting to his toes. Amputations. The blood clouding situation is horrendous. And finally our FDA is admitting to this um watch out for anybody at risk
for blood clots and taking these vaccines. But did we find out that for a long COVID it's about the same as you know when you have other respiratory infections in terms of what happens to your body after that, well serious infections. People who have hair changes, women can lose hair and nail changes. Feel tired. I think COVID is unique because the virus stays in the body so long. There's a autopy study by talent colleagues from the NIH showing the viruses in the body for many months after
the infection. A lot of people don't realize this, So you feel tired and there's a recovery period. There's not much can be done about it. But the vaccine makes long COVID much worse because it gives an extra installation of the spite protein and then increases these risks. Remember COVID is a risk for blood clotty. Now you take the vaccine. Now you have double or triple the risk of blood clott and then you get get COVID again
and then take more vaccines. We have never administered vaccines every couple of months for an illness and get the illness and keep taking the shots. That's another thing people should recognize. That's nuts. Can you imagine getting months, then taking a month's vaccine, and then getting months again, then taking another months vaccine. We would never consider doing that, So you know that right now something is completely off the rails. You see, Rachelle Lewinski, are our presidents people
taking vaccines, they've already had the illness. Nobody should be doing it. The former president Trump did that, and the question on the table is what is he thinking? What is his doctors thinking? I mean, not of it makes its sense to me. How you know, They're like, oh, I got COVID, but I'm they got a vaccinated double boosted and you're like, well you still got you know,
like it doesn't make sense. Uh. This has been extremely informative, doctor, you know one where can people go and find your work? And then too, is there anything else you'd like to leave us with? Well, thanks for having us on the show, and you're doing such a great job out there, young and dynamic and I'm sure your audience is huge. Please go on my website Peter McCullough MD dot com that gives links to all the social media I have, I think the top doctor account on Twitter. I've been reinstated
on Twitter and many people follow me there. I have a podcast, my own show America on Loud Talk Radio, mccullo Report twice on Saturday twice on Study on the podcast network. That's very highly rated and popular. I go worldwide on anstence is a worldwide problem. I want to hear from doctors who are innovating all over the world. We take the nation's questions on COVID, which is very important every Wednesday on Pulse on America out Loud. Have
a very popular subject called Courageous Discourse. I write with best selling author John Leek, and we've also teamed up for a book what's doing very well called Courage to Face COVID nineteen, which is the only book in COVID that's written by a full time real author who can write a gripping narrative and explains how I got involved the White House and the US Senate and you know, how did I set all the records on Joe Rogan and Laura Ingram and Tucker Carlson. It keeps going on
and on. How did all this happen? This is the story of all time And the only way we're going to get out of this is when the vaccines are completely dropped and we treat the remaining cases and we're going to have to pick up the pieces with deep investigation on who is behind all this and who's going to be responsible for the injuries, of the disabilities and the deaths have occurred, both with the COVID nineteen and with the vaccines. Well, sir, I hope you know how
much you're appreciated. Uh, we need leaders like you. I know it's not been easy, So thank you for what you've done and for speaking out. It's truly appreciated and I think you're going to be remembered in history as one of the guys who helped, you know, rewrite this. So thank you so much for everything you've done. Thanks for having me. Ye that was Dr Peter McCalla. Thank God for him and his voice and all of this and trying to bring some sanity to a world of insanity.
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