Trump’s Arraignment with TX Attorney General Ken Paxton - podcast episode cover

Trump’s Arraignment with TX Attorney General Ken Paxton

Apr 06, 202316 min
--:--
--:--
Download Metacast podcast app
Listen to this episode in Metacast mobile app
Don't just listen to podcasts. Learn from them with transcripts, summaries, and chapters for every episode. Skim, search, and bookmark insights. Learn more

Episode description

Donald Trump is officially facing 34 felony counts in New York City. The Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg made a campaign promise to get Trump, and he is following through. There are significant issues with the indictment as the statute of limitations has passed, but that doesn't matter because it's a politically-charged indictment. The former president’s first hearing is scheduled for December, which means this circus will continue throughout the Republican primary. So what should you know about the unsealed indictment? How strong is the case? Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton joins Lisa to break it all down. 

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

Speaker 1

Donald Trump was arraigned in New York City on Tuesday. He is facing thirty four felony counts. But there are a lot of issues with the indictment. I mean, chief among them the fact that the statute of limitations have passed for a felony indictment. But that doesn't matter. This is a political hit job. We saw Alvin Bragg shut down the entire city over a one hundred and thirty thousand dollar payment. Then if you question if it's political,

just look at the timeline of all of this. The former president's first hearing is scheduled for December, which means that all of this is going to go on throughout the Republican primary. But that's what they want. We also know that it's all bogus, that this is a hit job, that Alvin Bragg is just a tool for the left, that his entire purpose is just to destroy Donald Trump, that it has nothing to do with the rule of law, it has nothing to do with going after criminals. Listen

to what he said yesterday at a press conference. We cannot and will not normalize serious criminal conducts. I mean, this guy's a joke. Is he serious? I mean, last year he downgraded fifty two felonies to misdemeanors. I used to live in New York City. One of the reasons I left is because of the crime. The streets of New York are not safe. He lets criminals roam the street. He lets murderers and executions happen in the middle of the street. He lets robberies happen in New York City,

carjackings happen in New York City. I mean, you could walk down the street and get randomly punched in the face. If you're on the subway, you could get pushed in front of one or if you're a woman, god forbid, you can get raped. But he's okay with that, right because again he downgraded fifty two percent of felonies last year to misdemeanors. But he's going to get Donald Trump. I mean, he promised that. That was a campaign promise,

and now he's following through. Now. Trump remained defiant. He took to a stage at Marrow Lago after the arraignment and he said, this have a Trump paid judge with the Trump paiding wife and family, whose daughter worked for Kamala Harris and now receives money. The Biden harrish campaign and a lot of them. The only crime that I have committed is to fearlessly defend our nation from those

who seek to destroy it. And as he laid out, that's the problem in all of this, that he's facing a Marxist Manhattan DA, in a Marxist state, in a Marxist city where a jury of his peers are a bunch of left wing radicals. So canny get a fair hearing? And what should you know about the unsealed indictment? What she do you know about these charges that are laid out?

Is the case strong? We're going to ask Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who joins me on the show and he's next stay with US Attorney General Donald Trump was of course, arraigned this week facing thirty four or felony counts from the Manhattan DA. You know, what do you make of the case that Alvin Bragg has laid out. Well, it's a case that would never be and brought unless his name is Donald Trump. We've never seen anything like it where we have thirty four councils are all pretty

much it's already passed the statute of limitations. It's also I guess it's dependent upon some crime that they've not even specified yet, so that they can sort of bootstrap it into a felony, because right now, you know what the case looks like is misdemeanors. So it's it's I guess I wish I could say it's hard to believe that that's the tactic that is being used by the left everywhere. It's just now everybody should be worried about this, because if they can go after the president this way,

there's really no one that's saved. Does this surprise you that they're doing this, that they're just being so blatant about it, as you pointed out, they're not even laying out really what the felony that he committed is. Does

this surprise you at all? I think it is a surprising because because I you know, for other levels of government, we've seen it in my state with Governor Perry and ka and Tom Blay others, where they go after them to try to ruin their political careers and ruin their lives, but we've never seen a present history of this country.

So for the left to go to that level and clearly stretching, stretching, stretching their legal arguments into like crazy stuff that no one's ever been charged with before, and violating this whole idea of you know, stature limitations, which designed to make sure that cases are brought into timely manners. Some people don't forget the facts and they have no regard for the law. They just wanted to get him and this guy, this dial attorney, ran targeting Trump and

he wanted to deliver on his campaign promise. This is not America. This is not the America that the founder set up. It's not the America that I grew up in. When you have to be afraid of the government that they're targeting you and trying to find some way to put you in jail, that's what they're doing. Well. And of course, you know, no one should be able to question if it's political nature, because the next in person

hearing is going to be December fourth. So this is you know, essentially career a circus during the Republican primary where Donald Trump has already declared exactly and you also have to look at the history of this disc attorney. He has let all kinds of people go. He's reduced felonies, murders, other crimes to lesser offenses, and so you know, he's got a pretty big job in New York to prosecute crime, and yet he hasn't really done that. He's done a

really poor job of that. And somehow he's got lots of time and lots of resources to go after a former president after the Statute of limitations, run and try to concoct some theory that he's committed felonies just to ruin his life and ruin his campaign. I guess my concern is that, you know, it's pretty I'm an attorney, but even looking at this, you know, the Statute of limitations, you look at the fact that in order for him to commit a felony, it has to be in pursuit

of concealing another crime. They don't lay that out right. So you can go through these things and see obvious, glaring issues that you don't have to be an attorney to see. But the problem is that this is happening in New York and he is facing you know, Marx's DA or Marx's judge or Marxist State, you know, Marxist City, and the jury of his peerers are you know, a bunch of left wing radicals. Can he get a fair hearings in this environment. No, no, he can't. It's impossible.

It's not designed to be a fair hearing. It's designed to have the result decided before it's ever started. And that's exactly why they wanted to do it where they did it. And you know, the process for him going forward is you know, it's not very encouraging. It's not going to be based on what the truth is, what the law is. It's going to be designed to confict from the very beginning, which puts US in the same

league as countries like Russia and China. I don't see any real difference when you start targeting people and the outcome is known before the actual trial. So yeah, he's going to have problems, and you know, hopefully he can get to some appeals court that will be fair. But I know in Texas, you know, a lot of these Republican leaders had to go pretty high up to get out of Travis County, which is Austin, before they got any kind of fairness otherwise, because of their name and

the fact that there were Republicans that guaranteed a conviction. Well, and if it was just this too, it would be a little bit more comforting. But he's facing incoming fire from Georgia. He could potentially face an indictment there. He's facing federal investigations which are being overseen by Special Counsel Jack Smith. So I mean they are really throwing everything at him, and this time it's you know, criminal investigations

versus you know, just congressional impeachments. Yeah. So what they do this is this is common. They just line up as many of these as they can get, hoping that just the weight of all of those will crush somebody, destroy them. Maybe one of them they get lucky and they actually take away the freedom of an innocent person. That's their greatest hope is to take away the freedom of an innocent person. And so that's what they do. They just line up as much crushing legal and fortunately,

at least Trump has resources. Most people in his situation, I would say, somewhere in the high nineties would have to plead guilty to something they did not do because they wouldn't have the resources to fight. So most people in his situation plead guilty to something they did not do because they cannot afford to fight. Well, and that's what I really believe that this is all about is you know, it's not just about you know, Donald Trump,

it's about silencing political dissidents. Right. We've already seen the Department of Justice go after parents, labeling them domestic terrorists. They would after Mark. How could the pro life Catholic who just wanted women to not get abortions. Joe Biden took a stage in Philadelphia a few months ago labeling seventy five million Americans as enemies in the state, with

the military behind him. So I think they're making it pretty obvious that, you know, the whole point of this is punishing people for wrong think and punishing political dissidents in America. Yeah, I think you're exactly right. They're trying to send a message as chilling effect designed to keep good people you might otherwise run for office and have the wrong views, according to them, from actually getting into the race, because they realized that, look, if I get in.

With the thousands and thousands and thousands of laws and regulations that we have, these prosecutors can have unlimited sort of resources, unlimited possibilities to try to connive and concoct some type of crime. And obviously these are not crimes that we used to deal with where we know you've been harmed. These are stretched and they're more they're harder to define what you actually what actually crime you did,

and what harm you cause. Yeah, I mean, I assume that's the point of going with thirty four is that even if you can get you know, a couple thrown out, the hope is that you at least get one to stick and then you know, you label Donald Trump a felon, which is you know, essentially what they're trying to do

is you know, ruin him and tarnish his name. I guess my concern is I haven't fully grasped my own head with the political fallout of this all is going to be because of course, as conservatives, we care about the rule of law, we care about the weaponization of

government because it's aimed at us. But you know, if you're an independent who probably already hates Donald Trump, is this going to get you over to our table to try to win you know, the twenty twenty four election, or you know, win education or you know, the economy, be what could get them to come over. So I'm a little bit concerned that if this is the driving force heading into the presidential election, we might find ourselves losing. Yeah,

And I think that's obviously the point. That's just to drag us down. And if we stand up and say we're not going to put up with it, then we're stuck in the fight. Right. We don't have to give up and say Okay, they win. They can do this to anybody they want to and woke a pitchu light or we have to fight it, fight it, fight it, And that potentially puts us in a position of supposedly creating a taint to the party or dragging the party down,

or causing trouble. Why don't you just stop? Why does just get out sacrifice yourself at The problem with that is once we colpitulate to that we have lost, they will just keep doing it, and they will find something on anybody that they want to. And if you can do it with this kind of legal theory that's any competent attorney would never file, then you can do it

with anybody. There's nobody that's also limits and nobody that won't be charged with a crime if they decide they decide, they decide that they want to charge you with a crime. So I've been going back in forth in my mind about this about meeting power with power, right, I mean, there's an argument to be made that the only thing that Democrats respond to is power, and the only way

they stop with this is mutually assured destruction. Is it time for conservative das in America to start targeting Democrats to meet power with power, to show them that mutually assured destruction is awaiting them. Yeah. I think we definitely have lots of people, the Biden's Clintons who have committed it's not crimes, they certainly deserve to be investigated and very likely they've committed crimes. But the problem is we don't really have them many das that are willing to

risk themselves for that. For some reason, on the left has recruited people, they've embold them. I don't see many DA's across the country that are willing to take on that risk, and a lot of times we don't support our people doing that, and so they're left on their own to take on this fight, and then they get attacked and then people come after them, and so they're they're in a physicis like, well, I don't have the support of the media. I don't have the support of

George Soros, who funds all this stuff. I don't have the support of my own party because nobody else wants to take the risk, and so it becomes really challenging, at least from what I can see. I just don't see. I mean, if you can name a da doing this, who's actually pushing forward on actual crimes of very powerful people, I haven't seen it well. And it's also challenging because we have leaders like you know, Mitch McConnell and the Senate who is probably you know, cheering this all along.

So you know, that's sort of a challenge we face as well. You're assuming the Biden administration over the one point seven trillion dollar omnibus. Tell us about the lawsuit, you know why you filed it, what you hope to accomplish, Why it's important. Look, so it's important that the process, the constitutional process, has followed. And it's clear that Nancy Pelosi had a vote without a quorum. They were proxy voting, so people would turn their votes in to the clerk

and then somebody else would vote them. And that's not the way the founders envisioned it. No one's ever done it that way. I don't know if any other legislature that has allowed that, and so we're just saying, look, you can't pass a one point seven three in dollar bill with less than half the people there. That's not how the constitution works, and you have to respect the process or the reality is we don't have a constitutional process. We have whatever Dancy Pelosi or Joe Biden makeup, and

they are actually running the country by themselves. There is no there is no republic, there is no democracy. It is controlled by a few people. And that's that's where we're headed if we don't say that the process it involves elected representative showing up and voting matters, you know. And I think that's kind of how how we got here.

As you know, everything is so centralized now, and the more centralized the government is, the more centralized big businesses, big tech, big banks, the less power we have as the people. And that's sort of where we have arrived right now in American history. You know, are there any final thoughts? Is there anything that you'd like to leave us with before we conclude? I think there's hope. I mean, if the American people in force stand up and say we're not putting up with this, We're not going to

let the media talk us into this. We're not going to let our people go down just because they're they're in the middle of controversy, they're being attacked a lot of times. It's easy to say, why don't we just let them go, Let's get somebody else. We cannot do that at this point. We have to stand up for our own and we have to fight with them or they will take us all down one by one. We've

seen that in other countries. That's the way it happened in Germany, and that's the way it's happened in Russia, that's the way it happens in China. We cannot let that happen here. I agree wholeheartedly. I know you will be out in the fight. You know, we're going to continue to do that a show, and you know, continue to do that on Fox and wherever else I can. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton always appreciate your time. You're a busy man. I truly enjoy you joining the show

and breaking this all down for us. So thank you, Hey, so glad to have be on and let's get a great it was Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton obviously very passionate about all of this as he should be. I want to thank him for joining the show. I want to thank you guys for listening at home every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. Please leave us a review, give us a rating. On Apple podcasts, I love looking at those. I want to thank my producer,

John Cassio for putting the show together. Until next time,

Transcript source: Provided by creator in RSS feed: download file
For the best experience, listen in Metacast app for iOS or Android