Title 42 with Ken Paxton

when he took office. He halted deportations for a hundred days. He did things like and remain in Mexico when it is stopped the building of a wall along the southern border, or DHS secretary said that crossing the border illegally was not grounds for deportation. They want this lawless environment that we live in, and of course it's impacting Americans. You look at cities like New York and they're saying it's too much there too, burdened by a small amount of

illegal immigrants coming to their city. And you look at states like Texas who are absorbing the brunt of it. What do you think the impact is there. We're gonna get into all of this with the Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton, acts about the impact on his state and also more specifically, the ending of Title forty two. Now, for those that are unfamiliar, Title forty two happened in

the early days of the coronavirus pandemic. The CDC had issued this public health order that you know the name of COVID essentially allowed authorities to expel illegal immigrants at US borders like the southern border. It's been extended multiple times. Joe Biden is going to end Title forty two. So you look at what we've seen along the southern border, you look at the impact his policies have had already, and then now you're going to end this. So we're

going to talk to Attorney General Kent Paxton about it. Also, he has launched an investigation into NGOs they're aiding and abetting illegal immigration. We're going to talk talked all about that investigation, what he's learned, why he launched it, Also get into big tech a little bit, and some other issues like what we should learn from the mid term election. So I hope you enjoy this conversation with the Attorney General of Texas, Kent Paxson, as much as I did

Attorney General before we get started on the border. Congratulations and getting re elected. You all did well in Texas, but that didn't seem to be the case throughout the rest of the country. Why do you think Republicans fell short in the mid terms elsewhere? You know, I don't know exactly. I mean, I know that we've done a much better job, I think than many other states dealing

with election fraud. That we've got our own challenges because our own Court of Colonel Kills, which is a Republican court, struck down a nineteen fifty one statue allowing not allowing directing from the legislature the Attorney General to prosey voter fraud. So we're gonna have to address that. UM that ruling, which I think is absolutely wrong and definitely designed to make sure that there's more voter fraud in Texas. UM. So,

I don't know. I mean, it seems like some of these major counties and some of these big states have a have a major impact that they don't seem to be able to count their votes on time, and so I don't know. I don't know if that's it's it's that,

or there's there's something else going on. But it seems odd to me that in a midterm election and an off year where historically the party not in power has been super well and and and polling seemed to indicate that they were going to do well, and then you know, in certain states, battleground states, we didn't. We didn't do as well as expected. Do you think mail and ballots

are responsible for that? Mail and ballots are almost impossible to know whether people are are defrauding the elections because typically in Texas you can only vote million ballots if you satisfy certain categories of people and you have to actually sign the application. If they're just randomly sending out ballots they tried to do in Texas two years ago, there's no way to know who's voting if they send

out millions of ballots like they did in these other states. Um, like I know, in Pennsylvania they went from like you know, six years ago, they went from two and fifty thousand ballots approximately to two point five million million dollars And who knows who voted on those? You can't They're right, you can't prove voter fraud because there's no there's no verification, there's there's there's no signature verification, there's no photo I d anybody can fill those ballots out and you you

wouldn't know. It's pretty troublesome. I mean, they obviously used COVID to append the political process and to you know, give themselves an advantage. We have the most loose uh requirements for voting probably in the world. I mean, for a for a country that prides itself on unfair elections and and a republic that's controlled by the vote and supposed to be controlled by the voters, we have very very loose restrictions and very loose requirements for verifying that

we got the right people voting. So it's it's extremely concerning, at least to me and too many people that care about the elections. Now, if you're if you're part of groups that are less concerned about that, I kind of wonder why you don't care about that. And the only the only answer I can come up with is you like you like that system because it allows for a lot of a lot of voting that shouldn't be done.

I would agree with that. I think that's probably the answer you know, I wanted to ask you what's as a border state, what's the situation on the ground right now along the southern border and in the impact it's having on your state. Well, since Biden has been in office, it's it's gotten, it's gotten quickly, rapidly to be the

worst it's ever been. And look when you say in your first day in office, which Biden did, I'm not going to deport anybody, and then start dismantling federal law, which she's not supposed to be able to do as as one person. It's supposed to be done through Congress.

When you start dismantling federal laws or released immigration everything that worked under Trump, and you look at it and you undo everything that was actually working, and you find out that now you have a massive increase in the illegal immigration three percent, maybe now it's going to be more than that title forty two going away later this month. I mean, I don't know how to say it in a way. This is what they want. They claim that,

you know, there's nothing they can do about it. But how come two years ago we didn't have this problem. How come President Trump was able to take advantage of the remain in Mexico and Title forty two and stopping catching release and building the wall, and they said, no, we don't want to do any of that. Oh, isn't it weird that it's it's it's form percent more in illegal immigration. So it's getting worse and it's devastating border states, border cities, and it's coming to a town New Year

because they these people have to be moved around. They can't all stay in one city or two cities or five cities. Are gonna be all over the country and we're all gonna be paying for it. We're all gonna be dealing with it both economically and we're gonna be dealing with it from the standpoint of increased crime, increased

you know, drug trafficking, human trafficking. This is all being welcomed and aiding abetting the cartels that this is all about the administration wants well and entitled forty two is uh in relation to public health? Essentially it was used under the Trump administration and then just carry it out since But what's confusing, sir, is so in April, the CDC announced plans to terminate the order, saying it's no longer necessary with public health conditions with vaccines, treatments, etcetera.

But then a few months later they issued their student loan baro bailout under the guise of a pandemic, and then the White House in September walked back comments that the pandemic was over. So which one is it? You know? Is it? It's to ever which whatever they can use for political purpose to do what they want. So for this purpose, for the purpose of inviting is many illegals, whether they're terrorists or criminals, doesn't matter to them. They

want them all, then the pandemic is over. If it's for student loan bailouts and basically buy votes, which is what that is, or other purposes where they want to control the American people, control the American citizens as opposed to illegals, then there is a pandemic. Still we still

have a problem. So they're using it both ways, and they argue in court both ways, and and unfortunately some of our judiciary will is not aware or is ignoring the fact that they're arguing out of both sides of their mouth, because I mean, you would think that would weaken their argument if they're not making a consistent one in court, you know, one would think, uh, you know, is there a way to gauge increased crime in the state of Texas. We've essentially opened the floodgates and allowed

this invasion to take place. Yeah, I don't think you tried. It's being tracked every day. It's just you don't always get the numbers are not always the media is not always uncovering them. The biggest clear that, uh, crime is increasing in in almost all of our cities where we have more illegal immigration immigrants coming to and it's not just in Texas, it's all over the country. And I

think you can see that. And you know, part of that policies related to Democrats defunding police and not prosecuting crimes anymore, ignoring you know, state laws, and just nullifying what legislatures have passed. But it's also I think attributed to some degree to illegal immigration and the fact that the bind administration not only lets, I mean they let everybody and they encourage we're fighting them right now and whether they can release criminals into our country they want to.

They're they're begging, they're fighting for these criminals to be released into our country, and we're saying, you can't. You know, you're already violing all these other federal laws on them agration, but certainly you have to keep illegal immigrants out who have been convicted of crimes. And the Biden administrations are saying absolutely not. We want these people to be here as many as possible. Well, and they don't care that

Texas and Arizona are bearing the brunt of this. And then we saw what happened when these illegal immigrants were shipped off to Martha's Vineyard. They said thank you for your short stay, and shipped them off to Cape God. Is that what we're What were your thoughts on on that? And just sort of the hypocrisy with trying to force you guys in Texas to bear the brunt of this, and then you know, for New York City, it's just

too much. For Martha's Vineyard, it's just too much. Well, so it's interesting that these the sanctuary cities were created during the Trump administration, and they were created because they said that Trump was, you know, doing terrible things by keeping these people out. Well, it was easy for them to do when Trump was protecting them, right, so they could say, on one side, hey, this is terrible, but

it never impacted them. Well, Governor Abbott, I thought it was a genius news start sending them, as you know, to New York, Chicago, Washington to see Martha's finger, I guess, Governor to Santis ascent from Florida. And suddenly you found out these these cities that were so opposed to what Trump was doing protecting the American people, now that they were dealing with the consequences just a small drop compared

to what we deal with every day. We deal with thousands every day, five six, seven thousand they were they didn't get that many ever, and we deal with that every day. And yet suddenly they wanted help from the federal government. They were screaming about how terrible we were to share a little tiny bit of our burden with them. They couldn't bear the smallest percentage, less than one percent of what we're dealing with. That was way too much for for for them to be called on to deal with.

And that was just unconscionable of our governor to say, hey, you guys should share some of the burden of this, and they said, no, we don't want that burden. You guys should let everybody into your state and you deal with it, and that's the right way they should be handled. That's the appropriate, you know, caring way to deal with it. Is Texas and Arizona have to have to deal with this. We shouldn't have to deal with this. Yet we still

think they should come, just not to our place. Let's take a quick commercial break back with the Attorney General of Texas, Kent Paxton. You know, now you've got Governor Gavin Newsom in California saying that California is going to break amid the flood of illegal immigrants when titled forty two expires. Do you think the Biden administration will start doing something now that you've got liberal states like California

state that he obviously needs to do. You know, he's looking at for Do you think that will uh, you know, change the Biden administration's policies on this. Yeah, that's a great question. I don't know, I haven't seen anything. I mean, people dying doesn't affect them, so maybe politics will. But you know the fact that immigrants have have died, but the hundreds along the border come up, and how dangerous that is an house thousands of children been human trafficked.

How literally hundreds of thousands of people including shouldern have died event all over Hooses as a result of their their border you know, policies. Maybe politics is the only thing that will save the country. And having some Democrats like Kevin newsoon finally speak out and it's about time, it's uh and maybe it will help. Maybe politics is all he cares about. Certainly lives and the impact on the American people who are not are not factors that

play into his his his decision making. Well, yeah, that's the thing. I mean, they certainly don't seem to care about Americans. The financial tool that increased on crime, the fent and all, which is killing people by the droves. You know, I wanted to ask you about your investigation into NGOs that are aiding and ebetting illegal immigration. Why did why did you launch that and what have you

discovered so far? But we've just started a few months ago because we realized, like we were concerned about our

own state bar foundation aiding ebetting illegal immigration. So we've started an investigation them and we're expanding that investigation um and so we're actually as also looking at other possible non governmental organizations to to make sure that at least the ones in Texas because we have a responsibility in the AGS office to make sure that corporations and that includes nonprofits are following our laws, and if they're not, we we have an obligation to go investigate them and potentially,

uh make them pay the consequences of their of their

violation of state law. So we're going to continue expanding our look as we find out more information about other possible non governmental organizations that may be doing what we think the State Bar of Texas is doing, and hopefully we'll get to the bottom this and we'll certainly going to try to stop the ones we know about, which, again, the State Bar of Texas is shocking, but even they should, of all organizations, be uh following the rule of law,

and yet they may be the worst offenders. Well, it seems like the rule of law has been you know, thrown out ever since Trump. Right, there's just this mentality now that all is fair and you know, trying to destroy Republicans and Trump and let's just throw everything, uh, you know, out the out the door. Nothing matters anymore in terms of the things that we us to hold deer as a country. No, I think that started actually

under the Obama administration. You know, he he didn't have control of Congress after two years because the American public throughout the Democrats, because some of the terrible legislation that was being passed. And so I think Obama made the choice that he was going to start making his own laws through agencies, through effective action, and he taught the rest of the country, hey, this is an appropriate way to forget the Constitution. I'm not who cares about that.

It was written about guys term fty years ago. Let's just do what we want to do, whether we're at state level, whether we're at city level. We'll just start making our own laws. That's what d a s are doing across the country. They're not enforcing state law. They're saying, hey, we're just we just don't do that stuff now. And that's what President Biden is doing. He's he's stepped ab up.

He's doing that on steroids. And it's really unfortunate because it's totally moving away from the constitutional form of government that was that empowers the people instead of individuals like Joe Biden. But I think that's probably the intent. You know,

they want the control. They don't want us to have power, you know, that's I feel like that's sort of just the objective of the left period is everything they do is to erode individual liberty and empower, you know, the elite, the regime, the people in charge, which is sad because that's the contradictory to what the antithesis of what we're supposed to be as a constitutional republic. Well, the founders were fearful of this very thing. They were fearful of of,

you know, big government. They tried to that's why they separated powers. And that's why it's so important that these lawsuits against the Biden administration are successful because if if if we do not keep separation of powers, then we end up putting too much power in the hands of the president and he's honestly, it's no different than living in you know, Benzezuela or China, Russia, you know, Germany

in the thirties. What's the difference That you have a few people making decisions for all of us, who supposed they are smarter than us, who basically condemn people that disagree with them and try to make them out to be bad people, are stupid people. Well that's sort of that.

You can see that with the Biden administration. Almost every Day telling us that certain types of Republicans are bad people and that they're they're they're not worthy of being protected, they're not worthy of constitutional protections, and they should all be you know, silenced, and they're working with big corporations

and big tech to do that. Well, I got hit by the left by saying that, you know, the people criticizing tried on there's zero COVID policy, which they should be criticized, but like we really weren't that much different, and if it wasn't for guns and for some of the checks and balances we have, we very well, that's the direction the left wanted to take us. You know, I wanted to ask you real quick before we go. Uh, obviously we're learning a lot with the collusion between government

and big tech, both with Missouri versus Biden. Then also the Twitter files as well as some recently reports by publications like the Intercept. What is Texas doing to stand up against big tech and to try to fight this collusion and really what seems to be a violation of the First Amendment. Yeah, it's not just the First Amenments, also the second. So we've got we've got investigations, we've got lawsuits, against Google. We've got three or four losses

against Google. We've got a lawsuitains Facebook, we have a lawsuit against Twitter. We have investigations of Federal Express and UPS and let me just use those two as an example. We it's odd but suddenly the two of them, those two companies are very same time, have policies that that require gun manufacturers to disclose to them separately and then transport separately guns parts and other related items so that they can supposedly keep track of all of this information.

And who would want that information other than potentially the Biden administration, which of course the Biden administration can't do that directly. But it's odd that two corporations at the same time, the first time in their history, suddenly want to know all this information about guns. So the Biden administration is I would call it workarounds of the Constitution.

And they're doing the same thing with our First Amendment by working with big tech to to flag people who talk about issues that the government doesn't like, whether it's COVID or whether or whatever the top of the elections, whatever the topic is that they don't want more information

out about. Much like China UM, the federal government isn't allowed to do that, of course, the United States ender the Constitution, but what they're doing is using big tech and big corporations to be their stand in, which effectively means big government is doing exactly what they do in China and what they do in Russia, which is limiting

free speech, limiting Second Amendment rights. And so they're going down the list trying to work around the Constitution to eliminate our constitutional rights, and we if we are not vigilant, we will end up indirectly like these other countries where big government is controlling what we say, what we do, and basically eliminating the Bill of Rights. Well, Attorney General Kent Paxton, we're grateful for you in your time and also just you keeping up the fight. We need people

like you in office. So I'm so glad that you were re elected. And please just taking the fight to the Biden administration and standing up for reading in America because it is for sure under attack. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate and I also appreciate you covering these important issues. Thank you, sir. You're welcome back anytime. Love to have you. Thank you. Ye, So that was the Attorney General of Texas Ken Paxton, interesting conversation. Would

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